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707Goddess
06-16-2010, 04:00 PM
Hey there the name is Michelle, I was on here longggg ago but this time Im ready to change my Life style not just diet.
My question is I am following the Tosca Reno Clean Eating is that the same as Whole foods eating??
Im trying to find where I fit in on the boards :D

Thanks
Michelle


olivia627
06-17-2010, 01:02 AM
Hi Michelle! My name is Hope. We're both re-starting our healthy lifestyle journeys after being away for a while! I think people have their own definitions of whole foods on here. I'm following the list of foods found in Steven Pratt's book SuperFoods RX. What is the Tosca Reno Clean Eating? Do tell!!

I hope you get some responses. I've only gotten a few so far to my posts. There was waaaaay more support and interaction in this forum when I posted regularly a few years back. I'm REALLY missing the ladies who were here back then... :(

nelie
06-17-2010, 10:28 AM
I don't know what The Eat Clean diet advocates, can you give some details?

Basically, whole foods is eating foods closest to the natural state as possible, minimally processed foods. Fruits, veggies, legumes, whole grains, etc. And of course there are some trade offs like bread is processed but there is definitely a difference between wonder bread and whole grain bread with a few ingredients in it.


ChristinaMR
06-17-2010, 04:29 PM
I am also interested in Tosca Reno. Actually have her books coming today hopefully from Amazon.
I got interested in her by picking up a copy of Oxygen magazine and then learning through that about Clean Eating Magazine...

Without having the books so far I have gathered that her diet plan involves trying to eat as much vegetables, fruit and lean meat as possible and if you do have to eat "processed" foods to try to choose ones with five ingredients or less, but like I said I have gathered this without her books, so I am probably missing a lot.

ennay
06-17-2010, 06:43 PM
One difference I have seen just from friends who are on the eat clean diet is she seems to be a big fan of protein shakes which are most definitely a processed food.

All the stuff I read on the Eat Clean diet seem to say no processed foods, but everyone I know on it has tons of protein powder in their diet.


I belive but am not sure, that she advocates eliminating ALL saturated fat and I can't remember her take on honey. I think everyone I know uses stevia which I consider something akin to torture. I'd rather eat nothing sweet at all.

MTA - it is also a 6 meal a day plan

nelie
06-17-2010, 06:45 PM
I kind of use a 5 ingredient or less rule as well although it depends on the ingredients. If I pick up a package and it takes me more than a second to read the ingredients, I put it back.

ennay
06-17-2010, 10:04 PM
I go with a combo of the 5 ingredient and the thought "Could I actually make this product in my own home." Like I do buy jam sometimes when I run out. But I can make it with the ingredients listed.

Sometimes I'll have more than 5 ingredients, although I think Pollan groups ingredients into categories (is there more than 5 ingredients in 8 grain hot cereal?)

But protein powder I wont because I have no earthly clue how to extract whey protein and turn it into powder.

Viviane
06-17-2010, 10:47 PM
One difference I have seen just from friends who are on the eat clean diet is she seems to be a big fan of protein shakes which are most definitely a processed food.

All the stuff I read on the Eat Clean diet seem to say no processed foods, but everyone I know on it has tons of protein powder in their diet.


I belive but am not sure, that she advocates eliminating ALL saturated fat and I can't remember her take on honey. I think everyone I know uses stevia which I consider something akin to torture. I'd rather eat nothing sweet at all.

MTA - it is also a 6 meal a day plan

The shakes are just one way to get protein on the go. I would guess that your friends who are on it are fans of the shakes/find them convenient/are in a rut with eating clean and that's why they drink them because she doesn't push them any more than other forms of protein. I've been on it over 2 months and haven't had a single protein shake.

As for honey...I believe it's in the "use sparingly" category with agave nectar, etc. I don't recall her advocating eliminating ALL saturated fat, but that type of fat is limited by eating clean anyway. She uses coconut oil in a few of her recipes and is a big fan of nuts and salmon, so it's hard to see where she wants you to completely eliminate it...maybe you're thinking of her wanting people to use low-fat or fat free dairy products?

My take on eating clean is that it's a whole foods way of eating that emphasizes protein and "superfoods."

olivia627
06-18-2010, 08:28 AM
...if you do have to eat "processed" foods to try to choose ones with five ingredients or less...

Wow...I will certainly be doing this from now on!! It'll make my grocery shopping much quicker, that's for sure.

707Goddess
06-18-2010, 12:43 PM
Yes Eat clean and Whole food are identical LOL so I guess this is where i fit in I will be lighting the this section of the boards up because I believe this is the most healthiest thing you can do for your body Especially if you struggle with weight your whole life like i have :)

ChristinaMR
06-18-2010, 04:19 PM
I got one of my books yesterday! Look forward to reading it, for sure.
I hope to be seeing a lot of posts from you, 707!

Natasha629
06-18-2010, 08:21 PM
Yes Eat clean and Whole food are identical LOL so I guess this is where i fit in I will be lighting the this section of the boards up because I believe this is the most healthiest thing you can do for your body Especially if you struggle with weight your whole life like i have :)

Hi Michelle, I completely agre with you that this is the healthiest way to live. It is afterall how we were meant to eat. When I first got into whole foods, it was really hard not to judge what others were eating or lend my advice. I did bite my tongue and just kept to myself eating what I believed was good for me.
The exciting part was when people at work started asking me what I was eating, how I was losing weight and if I had any recipes to share!!! At that point I was thrilled to share what I have been learning. Everyone has to find their own path and I am so glad this is the one I have chosen to take!

countryhomeschoolin
06-25-2010, 12:15 AM
I also eat whole foods and pretty much "clean" but not going anywhere near a protein shake!

loveAcat
06-28-2010, 11:17 PM
I love eating whole foods!

I actually never read the Eating Clean books... but they sound interesting! I'll take a look at them in the bookstore tomorrow!

For now, I've just been trying to cook/prepare most of my own meals. I don't like protein shakes, but sometimes I get a granola bar (when I end up somewhere without a good snack with me).

LandonsBaby
07-01-2010, 02:26 AM
Yes Eat clean and Whole food are identical LOL so I guess this is where i fit in I will be lighting the this section of the boards up because I believe this is the most healthiest thing you can do for your body Especially if you struggle with weight your whole life like i have :)

Does Eating Clean really advocate cutting out all saturated fat? What about eggs? Organic grass fed beef? Unrefined coconut oil? Those are whole foods but they do have saturated fat.

Viviane
07-01-2010, 11:51 AM
Does Eating Clean really advocate cutting out all saturated fat? What about eggs? Organic grass fed beef? Unrefined coconut oil? Those are whole foods but they do have saturated fat.

No, it doesn't! :) I'm not sure where this thing with cutting out all saturated fat came from, someone else mentioned that, too. She does not advocate cutting ALL saturated fat. Eggs, grass fed beef and coconut oil are all foods that Reno actually suggests you eat! Just don't go overboard with egg yolks or eat red meat at every meal. ;) She also really pushes nuts and salmon, which have saturated fat (the "good" fats). Reno also suggests you choose dairy products that are low-fat or fat free, so saturated fats from dairy would be eliminated or nearly eliminated. I'll have to re-read the book to see where people get this impression. I have the "Recharged" version of the book...maybe the first book was different?

nelie
07-01-2010, 12:03 PM
No, it doesn't! :) I'm not sure where this thing with cutting out all saturated fat came from, someone else mentioned that, too. She does not advocate cutting ALL saturated fat. Eggs, grass fed beef and coconut oil are all foods that Reno actually suggests you eat! Just don't go overboard with egg yolks or eat red meat at every meal. ;) She also really pushes nuts and salmon, which have saturated fat (the "good" fats). Reno also suggests you choose dairy products that are low-fat or fat free, so saturated fats from dairy would be eliminated or nearly eliminated. I'll have to re-read the book to see where people get this impression. I have the "Recharged" version of the book...maybe the first book was different?

I don't eat dairy myself but in general, I don't think a whole foods diet would advocate fat free dairy at all. Although dairy is processed in itself unless you get whole, raw milk from a farm but even when I ate dairy, I stayed far away from fat free dairy and some low fat dairy.

WaterRat
07-02-2010, 10:42 PM
YOu can have raw fat-free milk - the milk is just centrifuged so that the cream (fat) rises to the top and is skimmed off (hence, skim milk). Whole fat milk is homogenized, that is the cream is mixed in. My grandfather was a county milk inspector and brought home raw milk all the time and centrifuged it (so the % of fat in each cow's milk could be calculated among other tests). In those days (the 1950's) people rarely drank raw milk, but we used the cream and the dog got the skim milk. :lol:

gardenerjoy
07-03-2010, 02:24 PM
I eat fat-free milk and plain yogurt. But fat-free cheeses cross the line for me as being too processed.

Handbags66
07-03-2010, 09:12 PM
I eat plain yogurt, but I drink unsweetened almond milk because I just prefer the taste. Fat free cheese kinda groses me out too. I make alot of green smoothies but I do not use whey powder.

DianaG
07-25-2010, 04:52 PM
One difference I have seen just from friends who are on the eat clean diet is she seems to be a big fan of protein shakes which are most definitely a processed food.

All the stuff I read on the Eat Clean diet seem to say no processed foods, but everyone I know on it has tons of protein powder in their diet.


I belive but am not sure, that she advocates eliminating ALL saturated fat and I can't remember her take on honey. I think everyone I know uses stevia which I consider something akin to torture. I'd rather eat nothing sweet at all.

MTA - it is also a 6 meal a day plan


Hi. Someone may have answered your question. I admit I haven't finished reading the thread. I have her Eat Clean book- the first one- and sweeteners like Honey, Agave Nectar, Stevia, Sucanat and Rapadura sugar she says to use in moderation, but they are considered clean.

Her plan is to eat 5 to 6 small meals a day so that you are not going prolonged periods of time between meals to keep blood sugar even.

The meals should be a mix of lean protein and complex carbs.

2 liters of water a day

Don't skip meals

Avoid processed foods especially with white flour and sugar, chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners.

She says to avoid saturated fats and trans fats, but to make sure to get adequate amounts of EFA's (essential fatty acids- unsaturated fats- such as avacado, almond, cashews, flax seed, olive olil, walnuts etc...) each day.

Make the majority of your meals fresh fruits and vegetables with a lot of fiber, vitamins and enzymes and stick to normal portion sizes.

My take on it is to eat foods as closest to their natural state as possible.

The protein shakes are not required. She does say if making a smoothie adding protein powder and flax seed to it is one way to add proteins and EFA's into your day if needed.

I think the people who go overboard on the protein shakes are into the body building aspects of her plan which would need the added protein.

Many of the recipes in her cookbooks call for eggs when making her multi-grain muffins etc... I see little difference if any in the whole foods way of eating and clean eating. I tell people my plan is a mix of clean eating and calorie counting and when I say that I mean whole foods because I don't differentiate between the two terms, but that is just my understanding of the two terms.

mals1
07-29-2010, 01:07 PM
Diana, You said what I was going to say.

strega*luna
07-30-2010, 08:06 PM
I read Tosca's first book a couple of weeks ago, found it to be very common-sense and healthy. Other than giving up the addictive "white stuff," I find it to be a really easy way to eat! I was not consuming many processed foods anyway, this just feels "right" to me. :carrot:

Alana in Canada
07-31-2010, 12:16 AM
I eat whole foods, too, not because I'm following any sort of plan which calls for it, but because the more I learn about processed food, the more scared I get of the middle aisles of the grocery store!

DianaG
08-06-2010, 09:50 PM
I eat whole foods, too, not because I'm following any sort of plan which calls for it, but because the more I learn about processed food, the more scared I get of the middle aisles of the grocery store!

I learned my lesson about straying from Whole Foods this past week. Money and time has been tight this past week, so I cheated a bit and used some pre-processed items that were on sale and just throw in the oven kind of meals (frozen pizza, lemon juice concentrate instead of cutting up a lemon for my water etc...).

I am allergic to sulfites to the point where if I eat to many of them I get hives. Well, with all the lemon juice and processed foods with sulfites for preservatives I got a giant hive on my lover lip that covered the whol lip and down the side of my face to my neck. My bottom lip had to be swollen to about an inch out from my face and it was hard to drink from a cup or talk without sounding a bit off. After massive doses of benedryll it is almost normal sized, but now my lips are cracked from being stretched and the skin is all ugly and red where the hive was. This experience was a good reminder to me of why I switched to whole foods in the first place.