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ledom
09-29-2002, 09:45 PM
Prevention Millennium Diet*

Daily servings
veg and fruits, 9 servings ( 5 veg/4 fruit)
whole grains, 3-6 servings
high-calcium, 2-3 servings

Weekly servings:
Beans - 5+
Nuts - 5
Fish - 2

Serving Sizes

veg. & fruit
1 serving = 1/2 c. chopped fruit
1/2 c. cooked or raw veg.
1 c. raw green leaves
3/4 c. veg or fruit juice

Whole Grains
1 serving = 1 slice whole wheat bread
1/2 rice or bulgar
1/2 c whole wheat pasta

Calcium 1 serving = 1 c ff or 1% milk
1 c ff yogurt
1 c calcium fortified O.J.
1 oz. reduced ff cheese

Supplements
100% DV multivitamin/mineral
500 (under 50) to 1000 (over 50) mg. calcium
100-400 IU Vit. E
100-500 mg Vit. C

Keep calories to 1500 a day - 250 cal. per meal. Eat 6 small meals a day. Do not exceed
42 fat grams per day.

Drink 8 glasses water and 1+ cup of tea daily.

* Copied from the Jan. 2000 issue of Prevention Magazine.

Prevention Millennium Diet*

Daily servings
veg and fruits, 9 servings ( 5 veg/4 fruit)
whole grains, 3-6 servings
high-calcium, 2-3 servings

Weekly servings:
Beans - 5+
Nuts - 5
Fish - 2

Serving Sizes

veg. & fruit
1 serving = 1/2 c. chopped fruit
1/2 c. cooked or raw veg.
1 c. raw green leaves
3/4 c. veg or fruit juice

Whole Grains
1 serving = 1 slice whole wheat bread
1/2 rice or bulgar
1/2 c whole wheat pasta

Calcium 1 serving = 1 c ff or 1% milk
1 c ff yogurt
1 c calcium fortified O.J.
1 oz. reduced ff cheese

Supplements
100% DV multivitamin/mineral
500 (under 50) to 1000 (over 50) mg. calcium
100-400 IU Vit. E
100-500 mg Vit. C

Keep calories to 1500 a day - 250 cal. per meal. Eat 6 small meals a day. Do not exceed
42 fat grams per day.

Drink 8 glasses water and 1+ cup of tea daily.

* Copied from the Jan. 2000 issue of Prevention Magazine.

go to prevention.com and put diet into the search engine and it will take you to the diet in another click or two

the website gives more details on the diet


aleka
09-30-2002, 07:48 AM
We had a beautiful fall day yesterday. Friends of our's came up for the weekend. He's working on their cottage, so yesterday, while DH was watching his NASCAR racing, she and I went down to the beach and had really good "girl talk".

ledom, I will check out the BFL thread. I find eating a higher protein diet stays with me longer than eating a higher carb diet. I have seen rave reviews of Kashi Go Lean cereal. I tried it yesterday morning, I was starving within 2 hrs. If I eat some protein with carbs, I'm fine all morning. Going to 100 before starting something new is a great idea! I wish you luck with your something new you are doing. Can't wait to find out what it is.

judi, good luck to you also, on your something new, and as I said to ledom, I can't wait to find out what it is. I've done almost the same thing with joining WW. The only people who know are the people on the threads I post on, and my GF who I meet weekly for lunch, shopping and/or a movie, as she is doing Atkins and each week we compare notes.

Tomorrow is my weigh in day, so wish me luck. I hope I didn't go over my points too much yesterday with cake & champagne. I'll find out tomorrow.

Take care and enjoy the day.

ledom
09-30-2002, 08:56 AM
for all 3 of us right now. We seem to have found a second wind.:goodvibes

OMG - I couldn't do all my workout this a.m. I guess this is something I have to work up to. The plan is to train 5 muscle groups (upper body) on the 1st and 4th day. Cardio the 2nd and 5th, and (lower body) the 3rd and 6th day. After 3 exercises I had to stop, I plan to do the other two tonight. Exercise is taking longer to get into place than the food. I didn't do it at all yesterday - but I'm gettin' there, slowly but surely.

For a person that obsesses about food this is a great diet because I have been paying a lot of attention to getting the right things in the house. I cooked a lot yesterday. I thought I got a great omen when I went shopping for my new food yesterday morning. The first person I saw when I pulled up in the parking lot was a woman loading her groceries in her car. She had on her workout clothes and she was obviously a strength trainer. She had great definition in her arms and shoulders, you could tell at a glance that she really worked at it. I just imagined all the healthy food she had just bought and it was an inspiration.

judi, your no food after 5 sounds like a great plan for you. I know what you mean about modifying and finding what works for you - I think it is important to be able to do that.

alice, I am counting on Lillie to bring us some rain. It got hot here again. We are back in the low 90's which is a bummer. Just a taste of cooler temps got everyone excited, now it is back to hot and humid:( . By the weekend we may have a break. Glad you had a good visit with your gf.

Well, it's Monday - time to start cracking.


aleka
10-01-2002, 11:54 AM
For the next couple of days we are supposed to have summerlike weather, in the 80's and humid. This is Oct.???:?:

Today was my weigh in at WW. I only lost 1.2 lb, and I was rather disappointed:( . Maybe I'll do better this week.

ledom, I checked out the BFL thread, and couldn't believe how long you had to do weight training. As you progress you'll be able to do more exercises. Just take it at your own pace. The food plan looks like a very healthy way to eat. How did you do today?

judi, hope everything is going well for you. I heard on the news last night that our foliage is going to be about 2 weeks behind schedule. They said that we need frost to help the trees turn color, and we haven't had any frost as it's been so warm. This has really been a very weird summer and fall. I only hope these warmer temps carry over into the winter.:s:

Take care and have a good day.

ledom
10-01-2002, 12:05 PM
don't be discouraged. 1.5 lbs is GOOD! It's not how fast you do it that matters anyway. You just can't let the slowness of the process keep you from doing what you know is best for yourself!

The food on BFL is very plentiful. If you didn't do the workouts I'm sure you might gain weight, but who knows I am no expert. Today was my cardio day which I liked a lot better. Just 20 minutes. I did the same walk I usually do but tried doing it in intervals of varying intensity. I was defintely winded when I finished. I am still learning what and in what portions of food I can eat. There is a lot of information on the web about this WOE. Wish all I had to do was sit and study the diet for a few days. As it is I am stealing bits of time from the chores I should be doing and wearing myself out in the process. Tomorrow is my day off so I'll study it in more depth then.

Hey! My entertainment center is coming Friday!

judi - how are you? Will DH be home soon? I bet you are starting to miss him. I hope you have enjoyed your solitude.

Well, back to the books - the night class is tonight and I'm cramming for my lecture.

aleka
10-02-2002, 07:51 AM
It was beautiful out yesterday almost 80 deg. Today is supposed to be about the same, then a reality check tomorrow.

We lost our water this morning, I was in the shower at the time:censored: DH checked the well, and thankfully we have water, so something must've happened to the pump. We'll call a plumber later to come and check things out.

ledom, and entertainment center!! How wonderful:cp: You will get a lot of enjoyment out of it. Pretty soon you'll have the BFL lifestyle down pat. It's nice to be challenged by something new.

judi, how are you? Haven't heard from you in awhile.

Take care and have a great day.

ledom
10-02-2002, 08:18 AM
I hope all is well on your side of the world.

Alice, I hope your water problem isn't too serious? What a time for it to go out, with you in the shower. Our weather is still too hot but by the end of the week we get a dip into the 70's, I'm looking forward.

Actually today isn't my day off, tomorrow is. Work is so hectic the first 3 days of the week I meet myself coming and going. I'm still worried about what I said to one of my students last night. She has missed 2 1/2 nights of class of this semster in a class that only meets once a week. She accidently ran into me in the hall just before the class started (I'm sure she really didn't want to see me), and said she couldn't come because she had a painting due tomorrow and needed to work on it. She also had her hunky new boyfriend in tow. Sigh, last week she had to leave in the middle of the class because her daddy was going out of town and she needed to spend time with him. I told her, in front of the hunk, that she was getting very whiney lately. I know she felt insulted. Don't even know why I worry over these things, I REALLY wanted to give her a serious dressing down. She is just very immature and spoiled but somehow manages to get by by being very cute and sweet. Somehow that little exchange has been nagging me - I should have done it different.

Anyway, for the most part, my students are working their butts off. I appreciate that in a student.

judi
10-02-2002, 11:43 AM
Hi! Sorry I have been missing in action for awhile (things got crazy around here...so it was really missing in "action").

You both sound like you are doing great on the new plans. That is wonderful. I was down 2 1/2 pounds this week so I am encouraged to really be faithful to the "PLAN".

The no eating after five thing is working out well, a couple of times I was in Vancouver and didn't get home until about eight and then had to eat late and it didn't feel right at all. The only thing is I am struggling with is the water...now if it were 8 cups of coffee I would be fine.

Don't worry about the "brat" with the hunk in tow, Ledom. Having a D I know how sensitive they are but it is only EGO and nothing that will do them any good later in life anyway. I know my D has gotten away with a lot by being sweet and pretty and it hasn't done her one bit of good. They learn to shirk responsiblities which ultimately back fires.

I can't believe that it is that hot where you are Ledom...in Oct. that is amazing! It feels like it is going to snow here. It is cold. I brought in my plants that will winter in the house. Alice, it must be so beautiful where you are. We really hope we someday be able to go down the east coast and there abouts for a number of weeks in the motor home, especially in the fall. I might be going to Ca. for 3 weeks in the latter part of October.

I had my hair layered and new streaks put it. I haven't had such nice hair at anytime in my life before. My hairdresser is an Iranian woman. She herself is gorgeous. long red curly hair, tall and very slim. She always wears black and looks tres elegante. Some people can really carry off that "all black" look...I love it. She is inspiring just to look at, she in her late forties. She is every bit as nice as she looks too. Her family left Iran a long time ago to get away(they went to Germany for a few years and then Canada) and had to leave everything behind but she says it was well worth it.

Alice, how did the water situation turn out? We are on our own well so that is always a foreboding here.

Alice, I too have found that you have to have a bit higher protein, to keep going...I know if I eat Egg beaters or eggs (which I don't like to do) I can keep going until around one in the afternoon but if I have just a carb breakfast (no matter how healthy) I am starving by eleven.

One of the Blessing's nun dolls arrived this week and she is a beauty!!! But Canada customs tempered my joy somewhat by charging me 48 dollars in duty &%$#!!!!

Things have calmed down here so I will be back at my post, well...to post. Have a good day all!!

aleka
10-03-2002, 08:28 AM
We got our water back. It was the pump, the plumbers installed it yesterday afternoon. It felt really good this morning to take a "real" shower

YAY!!!!!:cb: judi, you're back. We missed you. That's fantastic losing 2 1/2 lb.:dancer: It really is an incentive to stick with the PLAN. I'm glad that not eating after 5:00 is working so well for you. I know what you mean about the water and the 8 cups of coffee. Actually, we are a bit behind in the foliage dept. Because of the warmer than normal temps., we haven't had the frosts to help the trees along. We are seeing the sicker trees and the "Swamp Maples" starting to turn and it is starting to get beautiful. It would be nice if you & DH were able to come this way in the fall. Usually, about the 2nd weekend in Oct., which is a holiday weekend, is our peak. I bet your hair looks fabulous! Did you have it cut shorter, or have kept it chin length?

ledom, I agree with judi about your student with her beau in tow. It was probably something she needed to hear. I really wouldn't worry about what you said to her. I'm glad that the rest of your students are hard workers. How has your BFL been going? Have you seen anything of Lili yet? We may see something by Sat. We still desperately need the rain.

Take care and have a great day!

ledom
10-03-2002, 01:29 PM
It's so good to read your posts. Thanks for words of wisdom on my student. She made me mad. I usually don't get mad at my students and I think that is what was bugging me so much. I am not going to put any more of my emotion into her, she has a long climb to get back in my good graces and I figure she doesn't even have a clue about that. But moving on to you guys.....WOW judi, the PLAN seems to be working. Good for you!

Glad you got your water back Alice. I have city water now but I grew up with a cantakerous well and know what that kind of trouble feels like.

Lili is giving us 50 % chance for rain this afternoon and more chance tomorrow. Like Isadore she is taking a path up the Mississippi R., while I am more in the southcentral part of the state. I'm hopeful though. The good thing is that after she blows through a cold front from the west should blow in bringing us down into the 70's. Judi, your weather sounds great. We will have a pretty fall though once it gets going and I do love the fall.

Ah, I guess I'll tell my secret as I think I might need some moral support. On Sun. when I started BFL, I decided to give up Diet Coke too. This may not seem like a big deal but it truly is for me. For at least the last 20 years I have had a DC the first thing in the a.m. when I wake up and probably about 5 more throughout the day. I did it cold turkey. I know they say to wean yourself off but I have tried that before and it hasn't worked. I am not giving up caffiene per se. I have a cup of coffee in the a.m., but I am not addicted to coffee. I think the carbonation and taste of DC along w/ the caffiene has been my drug. Anyway, I am having that withdrawal headache - but not continuously. When I get tired is when I most want to revert back. BFL is all about "eating clean" and DC just doesn't seem to fit in with that. Plus, it is something I have been concerned about for a long time. So that is my big secret.

BFL is going fine. I am never hungry though frustrated because the food isn't exactly what I would reach for. Lots of protein and I have never big on protein. The good thing is there is an equal amount of carbs as well. Someone needs to invent protein that tastes like carbs. Then I'd be perfectly happy on this diet. It takes some reserach, etc. to figure everything out and I am still in that stage. I did download a bunch of recipes yesterday that I think will make it easier. Today I am at home and plan to do some cooking. The exercise is pretty intense. I am sore, but I don't really mind it. I am having to structure my time a little better to get everything in. I find that I need a good bit of zone out time when I'm not talking, reading, studying, anything except goofing around on the computer or watching the tube. I need to learn how to do a little less of that and more of other things, even if it is just sleeping. I am pretty tired right now but I suppose that could be the effects of the DC withdrawal. Anyway, that's me today.

judi
10-03-2002, 01:36 PM
Well, Alice...glad you got your water back:D What a relief, eh?!!

My hair is layered but the back and bottom is fairly long and poofy. The shorter layers on top and the sides make it automatically curl so it makes basically a wash and go style.

It has started raining. Its OK I have had such a relaxing two weeks at home with all my ebaying and reading I am feeling well disposed towards the universe. I am looking forward to the DH coming home. He has been missing me (it is mostly my cooking, I know but that is OK). I haven't made a meal in two weeks.

How is the BFL going Ledom?

How about the point counting Alice? I like counting points it is a good system. We finally have gotten veggie burgers at McDonalds here. It is great because they are only 6 points and very filling. Also the California Mandarin Salad is HUGE and with all the dressing, nuts etc. it is 9.5. I phoned them to congratulate them on adding these things to their menus...they were happy because they said people were usually phoning them to give them *&%@.

My pants are starting to feel baggy...I was down another pound from yesterday...I know I should stop that checking everyday because it isn't really the best way...maybe I will just weigh on Thursdays. But I love the getting "baggy" clothes feeling.

I notice in the WW food journal, the water is only 6 glasses...I can do that.

Have a great day ladies!

ledom
10-04-2002, 09:16 AM
judi, We must have been posting at the same time yesterday. Look above your last post and there is mine talking about BFL. This diet is something - it has just dawned on me:doh:, that I am a body builder now. That is what this diet is all about. Eat the food and you have to work out. But the food is plentiful. The further I get into it, the more excited I am getting. And did I mention free day? Once a week you can eat whatever you want and however much you want - now that is a scary thought:devil: Well, tomorrow is my free day. I have a list of things that I want!

Alice, just as I suspected - Lili didn't bring us near the rain we could have used. We did have a light drizzle for several hours so I guess it is better than nothing. Maybe you'll fare better.

Well TGIF, time to get ready for that last day at the salt mines. Oh yeah, I slept most of yesterday and feel much better today. Also, I noticed last night my headache was gone!

aleka
10-04-2002, 10:13 AM
What a difference a day makes, we had a frost last night. It wasn't too bad where we live, but farther north it got darn right chilly.

ledom, glad you got some much needed rest and that your headache is gone. Good for you for going cold turkey on the DC, you must've been determined. Being really excited about something makes you want to stick with it. I'm happy for you that you have found something you like to do. Is the eating plan very difficult to follow? To me, it seemed confusing trying to get the right mix of protein and carbs in a meal. Like you, we also may just get a glancing blow of Lili. They say it may go north of us. Any bit of rain will help.

judi, yes, counting points is a good system. I have to eat a higher protein diet/lower fat rather than a high carb/low or no fat diet. It's kind of difficult because the higher protein seems to have more point values than carbs. I just balance it out with lots of 0 point veggies. I read an article in the newspaper the other day about how McDonalds is suffering because other fast food chains have healthier fare, and that the aging baby-boomers are going to those other fast food chains. I do know that sometime, McDonalds is going to use healthier oil for their french fries.
I haven't had any of McDonalds veggie burgers, but I had one at Burger King awhile ago and I thought it was delicious. As a matter of fact, I had a grilled Boca burger for supper the other night with some melted low fat cheese. :T Isn't having baggy pants a wonderful feeling? The PLAN is working very well for you.;)

Take care and have a good day.

ledom
10-04-2002, 10:36 AM
Me again. First, it is a palm size serving of protein and a fist size serving of carbs at every meal. All the veggies you want. That is pretty much it. I am eating a lot of egg whites, cottage cheese, chicken breast, though other meats are fine as long as they are lean.

OK - I've had a brainstorm for our thread title after we hit 100 under the PMD title. Let's call it THE PLAN. In honor of judi - but also it makes sense. You need a plan. It doesn't neccessarily matter what the plan is, just so you are conscious and aware of what you need to do and have some guidelines to go by.

Whatcha all think?

aleka
10-04-2002, 12:12 PM
That's a great idea!!!! Thanks judi!!!!


judi, I forgot to mention about the water in my last post. The WW leader told us to drink at least 3 glasses of regular water, and the other 3 or more could be any diet beverage without caffiene in it.

judi
10-05-2002, 04:45 AM
The Plan ... well, I am honored but maybe we shouldn't call that after me JUST yet:D ...maybe people wouldn't want to go there if they knew...ok ... I will give you girls a hint ...one of my plan coping tools is going to confession and telling the SAME priest (musn't spread the telling around it is supposed to uncomfortable, so you have to go to the same one) that "Yes, it is me again...and I am still struggling with one of the 7 deadly sins(plus, such a plebian and kind of pathetic one, not even remotely exotic) :devil: DO you have any idea ... HOW MORTIFYING that can be???!!! Oh, yes and part 2 of it is you have to pick someone you admire to confess to. :lol: Now THAT is something that is making me stay within my point ranges with points to bank! (It is the former Catholic school girl approach.)

It also is very inspiring to have the both of you as weight loss companions, so many times I have just wanted to quit and be satisfied with myself being BIG...because I can buy good clothes and I feel fine about it, if I don't rejoice because of it I am not tormented by it either...but what made me keep going is the thought that if I quit then I would have no real reason to come to this site and check in with you two if I wasn't dieting anymore and I just didn't want to give up the nice friendship we have so I have stayed with it.

Ledom I think your body building is such an accomplishment, like your kayaking. You should feel so good about what you can do:cool:

Alice, that is good news about the water...I can do that. The adding the 0 point veg is such a good thing because then you can satisfy the PMD requirement of all that veg. which is supposed to be so healthy. I haven't shopped for groceries since the DH is away and haven't had any veg. to "beef" up the menu..so when I've run out of points I just am out of luck. I must remedy that. I am also keeping a journal and giving my self stickers to perk it up and make it more fun.:dance:

I had the gardener here today. It is so cold now I bet I won't have to have the grass cut again before spring. It is ok for some reason I am ready for fall this year. Some daisys are still struggling valiantly on, most of the shasta ones are gone but I have lot of black eyed susans and then a few of the fall flowers are still blooming.

I have been enjoying EBAY a little too much...I think it is time for my husband to come home and see what is going on.

Have a good weekend:grouphug:

aleka
10-05-2002, 08:03 AM
I've been hearing it rain overnight. We need it. I don't know how much we have gotten. It's supposed to clear up later this morning...so they say.


judi, I think that's a great PLAN you have! Your story about the priest reminded me whenever I went to confession I'd have to think things up to tell him, I never had anything juicy to tell him, as I was such an :angel: :lol: Gee, even if you weren't dieting I would hope you would still post because I value the friendship the 3 of us have here. When I was going through, what I call my "blue" period, I wasn't dieting and still posted. You guys helped me get through alot. I too was resigning myself to being BIG, but unlike you, I'm short, 5'2", and the larger sized clothes, except for tops, don't fit right. I know there are 1/2 sizes, but they are very difficult to find. I need petite clothes, and in most stores only carry up to a size 14....which I'm far from. Last night I was talking with my cousin that I spend 2 weeks with in the summer. I told her I was going to WW, she is a lifetime member. Only she and my GF know, and since they are both important to me I don't want to disappoint either one of them.

ledom, one thing I've been meaning to ask. Did you take your measurements before you started body building? It will be interesting to see how many inches along with lbs. you lose.

Enjoy your Saturday :grouphug: too!

ledom
10-05-2002, 10:40 AM
The 3 of us truly do give unconditional support, and it's priceless in my book. judi, I think spiritual guidance is a wonderful way to approach dieting. It is about finding the strength within to commit to a healthful way of life, and that ain't easy! There has to be a place inside that allows you to do the hard things in life you need to do. We have each felt the urge to give up, but here we are still forging on along the difficult, and sometimes rewarding path. It is so nice to have each other along the way.:grouphug:

Alice, I do have to take my measurements and a before picture. Nag me until I get it done. Before and after pictures are big with the BFL people and if you look at them you will be inspired. They have inspired me.

judi, what kind of goodies are you finding at e-bay? Also, I meant to say your hair sounds neat, what a good feeling it must be to have the best hair of your life. It was so funny, I was just thinking my last haircut wasn't the best when someone asked me who cut my hair because they wanted to try the person. My guy is good at cutting, he has done my hair for at least 20 yrs. It MUST be wash and go because I won't do anything more.

Speaking of shopping, yesterday was my day of aquisition. The entertainment center came and it is so pretty. But, :fr: , getting all my electronics back together was HARD. I finally gave in and begged one of my friends husbands to come help me get my sound system back together. Sometimes you just need a man:lol: , he was a great sport about it and actually taught me a lot so I think I could do it myself next time. I went for a run to TJMaxx that discount store that I love. I was looking for a good skillet to make all my egg whites in, I like Caphalon pans and I found just what I was looking for. I ALSO found a great leather jacket. I have wanted one for 3 years and either couldn't find what I like or balked at the price. (Keep in mind TJMaxx buys up overuns and stores going out of business and that their prices are generally 1/ 2 price), anyway I found the perfect jacket for me. It is a buckskin color leather suede that is cut so beautifully, in a way more like a shirt than a jacket, but it has just the right elements to scream jacket all the same - and it was in my size! I got it for $60. I ALSO found the best and most unusual serving piece (yes, dishes are my weakness), it is a handpainted - made in Italy - boat shaped bowl that would be great for fruit, bread, or chips. It is very striking and matches two platters and 2 serving dishes that I already have. I just kept finding neat things and had to put blinders on to get out of the store without causing too much MORE damage.

Ah, today is FREE DAY. I woke up and had a bowl of cereal, so nice not to prepare food. The piano tuner will be here in about 15 minutes. When he leaves D and I are going to a Crafts Fair and then we'll be back home for cleaning and home work. Supper out tonight, anything I want and it feels like Christmas.

judi
10-06-2002, 11:35 PM
Ledom, How is the no diet coke thing going? I have had a diet coke (or a few) everyday of my life...actually when I first met my DH it was the real thing coke...he talked me into diet coke because he thought all that sugar was bad...face it, our generation was weaned on it...it was sort of like mother's milk to us. I don't even think about giving it up.

Your jacket sounds just fantastic Ledom. I also like dishes. I like chintz plates, I have a nice set of them on a beam overhead in my kitchen. I inherited some very good stuff from my grandmother, mother and mother in law.

Alice, I saw a big stuffed Boston Terrier the other day and thought of you. Was it ever cute. It was in a shop in Vancouver that sold only stuffed animals, jungle stuffed animals too. I wish I had a dozen grandchildren...I would have so much FUN shopping.

Ledom you asked what I found on ebay... this is what I bought on EBAY this last month. An original oil painting...a HUGE one, a new pair of men's dress shoes for the hubby, several medals with relics, 2 Lladro figurines, a nun's little book of psalms in latin, an baltic amber rosary (which was a rip off because it was very tiny and it didn't show it in the ebay pictures)...I gave it to one of the nun dolls, FIVE brand new nun dolls...two of them were BLESSINGS ones (all brand new, in original packaging) a Vatican medal of the Jubilee year (1950) which was the year of my birth and a bedside clock, ...OY...what else..a brand new tea pot (Sadler, from the historical series of a Russian street scene, with Byzantine churches on it etc.) The tea pot and one Lladro are coming from Great Britian. BUT...I am going on an EBAY fast for the month of October. AND just when I decide... what is on sale there!!!..someone in Kentucky is selling "Our Mutual Friends" nun dolls...but I am going discipline myself and stick to NO buying for October.

How is the point counting going Alice? I am about 2 under each day. Did you take your measurements? I took a picture...well, at least my hair looked ok.

My DH came home today:love: I was so happy to see him even though I did have a good two weeks reading and all.

Thursday is going to be my weigh in day so I will report to you gals.

aleka
10-07-2002, 09:06 AM
I hope you both enjoyed your weekend. We had a delightful weekend weather wise, and it was very quiet around here. This coming weekend, which is the holiday weekend, will be everyone's LAST HURRAH, so to speak.

ledom, ooooh, I love your jacket and a bargain to boot! Are you enjoying your entertainment center? So, what did you have on your eat anything you want day? I hope you enjoyed every bite:s: I like dishes also, but don't have the room for them. My favorites are place settings from Lenox, which I'd have to mortgage the house to buy:lol: I do have very expensive taste. I can walk into a store and 9 times out of 10 I'll pick out the most expensive item. I know, it's a gift:lol: Enjoy your bowl and jacket.

judi, before I was born, my Dad worked for Pepsi Cola, so I was weaned on Pepsi...it was sacrilegious to have Coke in the house:nono: I weaned myself of diet Pepsi. Now I drink Waist Watcher with no caffiene nor nutrasweet. I'm glad your husband is home. I usually average 2-3 points below what I'm allowed. On Friday I went way over for the day, but I had enough points banked that it wasn't as bad as I thought. The next day I just went to my bottom number. What I'm trying to do to mix things up a bit is one day eat to my max, then the next day bank a few, and so on...and so on...and so on.... Mixing it up might help my metabolism from being stuck in neutral. No, I didn't take any measurements nor did I take a picture. I should have though. I do have a photo taken last winter on our FL vacation and I look like a tugboat, maybe I'll use that as an incentive. I haven't gotten weighed yet, tomorrow is the day. But, I do feel smaller this week. So...we'll see what tomorrow brings. We have a life sized "sand cast" Boston Terrier sitting in a corner of our livingroom. It startles me everytime I go by it because it looks like a real dog sitting there. I thought it would bother her nibs, but it doesn't seem to.

Take care and have a great day.

ledom
10-07-2002, 09:36 AM
judi - I have successfully gone one week and one day w/out diet coke. I am past the withdrawal headaches. It's just like booze though, when I get tired or stressed is when I think about it most. There are 2 2litre bottles still in the house which D got into over the weekend. I won't say I wasn't tempted, especially on free day, but I am doing good. For me, d.c. also is part of an eating pattern that I'm trying to avoid.

Free day - well, I enjoyed it and I didn't. It's a paradox. In a way it left me hungry because of the empty calories. I wasn't sorry when it was over. D and I shared a funnel cake at the craft fair. The thing I wanted most was pizza, D and I ordered a medium pizza w/ black olives, mushrooms, and onions and an order of cheese sticks. I had it for both lunch and supper. We had planned to go out for supper too, but neither of us were that hungry. I did have an ice cream cone and a pumpkin pie from McDonalds in the evening. The other thing, and a big treat, was cereal w/ milk for breakfast. Food is more complicated on BFL, I have to put some effort into preparing it. There is really no frozen meal that would cover all the bases like when I was doing PMD. So, anyway - I'm in the 2nd week and feeling strong still.

Alice, remember when you weigh tomorrow that you are smaller and the scale doesn't always indicate that. Sounds like you are on top of things with WW. The BFLers have a great term for indicating a loss in size called pant-o-meter, which I think is a cute way to say it. As we all know, muscles weigh more than fat so scales are not always reliable in telling how you are doing. (I think you have reminded me of that same thing in the past.)

What a spree judi - sounds like fun! What is the painting like? Glad DH made it home safe and sound.

Talk atcha later.

judi
10-07-2002, 01:32 PM
Alice, from what I have read and heard mixing up low and higher points is the best way...that way your body doesn't think it is starving and go into "fat saving" mode.

Good for you on the diet coke Ledom, I would find it very difficult. I know what you mean about stress calling forth something to drink...I feel like that with wine but I have ALMOST stopped drinking it because I don't want to waste 3 points on 4 oz. glass, when it always takes 2 6 oz. glasses to de-stess me. SO that would be almost 10 points which is one heck of a lot of food. Plus, wine always makes me want to eat, so I have been avoiding it.

The painting is a modern looking Christ overlooking a city. A nun painted it in the sixties. It was left in a convent when they moved, that is what the seller says anyway. I will have to reframe it because I didn't like the look of the frame in the photo. Frames are important I think, I like a really GOOD (read: expensive) frame.

The idea of a free day sounds good to me. Eat what you want kind of thing, something to look forward to. Also after a good week of dieting it is very hard to eat a huge amount because you just don't want it. I know yesterday I made big breakfast and then we had Chinese food in the evening and I had more than I ate in the week but I was still left with 4.5 points at the end of the night to bank.

Alice those sand cast figurines really look real don't they! I know my DH had an Akita one, of course it wasn't life size, that would be just too much of a figurine. My friend has a big Cocker Spaniel one. Bentley still has his allergies, but he has been taken out his frustrations on chewing the cats ears...my D is always yelling at him because the cats ears have scars on them. Why the cat doesn't claw him is beyond me because she is the boss of the apartment now.

That is all the news in my corner of the world. It is very foggy outside, its pretty though when the fog is drifting down the road and all.

Sending you "GOOD DIET VIBES" for the day!

aleka
10-08-2002, 11:47 AM
Today was my weigh in day....I lost 2 1/2 lb. We didn't get the freeze they were predicting yesterday, which was nice. It's rather nippy today though, more like fall than last week. The color is starting to come fast and furious now. I noticed all the color going to my WW meeting this morning, and it was a very pretty ride.

Thank you ledom, for reminding me of the advice I once gave you. I should start taking my own adivce. I love pant-o-meter!!! What a great way to say something positive. I'm glad that BFL is going so well for you.

Your painting sounds beautiful, judi. I hope you find a GOOD (expensive) frame to put it in. I hope you get many years of enjoyment out of it. I'm with you on the wine. That was one of the reasons I decided to go to WW meetings instead of doing it on my own. I love to have a glass or two of wine on the weekends, starting with Fri., and ending Sun. This way, I know I will only have wine 1 night instead of 3. I know in advance which night it will be, so I eat accordingly. I'm surprised that your D's cat lets Bentley chew on its ears. Yes, cats tend to take over. We've had cats in the past, but DH became allergic to them. I miss having one around.

Take care and have a good day.

ledom
10-09-2002, 07:10 AM
WAY TO GO ALICE! Congrats on you great week at WW. Girls, just one more day to get through and I can catch my breath - this is short but just wanted to say hi. Hang in there ya'll and I'll do the same.

judi
10-09-2002, 03:24 PM
Yes, the "pants o' meter" is a good one and the pants o meter says I have lost weight this week BECAUSE yesterday I wore a pants o meter that I haven't fit into for over a year. I weigh tomorrow and actually looking forward to it. I have stayed within my points all week. So I am happy. In the evening I am hungry so maybe I will start having an egg white omelette loaded with veg then instead of the morning.

Do you girls get the flu shot every year? It is flu season here and I have been going to Vancouver every day and I am feeling kind of icky today...but I am NOT going to get the flu. My doctor appt. in not until next week. SO NO FLU!

Are you still seeing your D as much as ever, Ledom? Mine hasn't been phoning as much as usual. Busy with school, I guess. I HOPE!!

You lost 2 1/2 pounds Alice!! That is wonderful, give your self a pat on the back:cp: :dance:

The weather is cold and rainy..it is ok though. Just into the typical west coast weather.

What have the pets been up to? Marley has been sleeping and sleeping I hope it just the change to the gray days. Also I have been leaving for a few hours every day and he has been sulking.

ledom
10-10-2002, 10:24 AM
Well judi, if the pantometer is showing results that is what is important. And, good for you - you already know you are doing well.

Weather finally turned here, we have had rain and cooler temps. Now it is time to get out and start raking those danged leaves!

RM and Bea are doing great as is Tweeg. They are putting on their winter coats and looking fat and healthy again after a summer of fending of fleas and lizards and snakes. They are much more interested in spending indoor quality time too as the weather gets cooler.

Girls, I am so happy w/ my decision to try BFL, my pantometer is showing progress too. As are the scales, but even though I am still weighing everyday, I don't think I want to talk about it too much except at about 1 month intervals. Don't want to set myself up for disappointment as it is my understanding that at times you stop losing when your muscle gain really kicks in, or not as fast anyway. But, my complexion looks brilliant right now - I know it is from the good diet as well as kicking the diet coke. I look and feel healthy and energetic. I have not even completed the 2nd week and already I'm loving the changes.

aleka
10-10-2002, 10:32 AM
Later this morning I'm off my weekly lunch & shopping spree with a friend.

We are having on and off rain showers this morning, I don't mind because we still need the water.

YAY judi....being able to fit into a pair of pants again :cp: :cb: You really are doing great! How did your weigh in go? No, I don't get a yearly flu shot. One time my Dad got one, and he got the flu anyway. Are you feeling better today? It's NOT the flu.

ledom, sorry you are so busy. Maybe you can take the long weekend to relax. How is the BFL going?

Take care and enjoy your day.

judi
10-10-2002, 03:11 PM
I hope you are enjoying your shopping spree and time with a friend Alice on this beautiful fall day:flow1:

The cats are looking sleek with their winter coats are they Ledom. Hmmm...I wonder if that is a harbinger for a COLD winter because Marley (I am letting his hair grow) is fritzing out like a dandelion ball. His fur (hair) looks so nice it really a grey brindle but when it gets long it is like a steel grey blue and it is very shiny. The vet is always impressed.

Today I weighed in and I lost four and half pounds this week.:dance: I had to write it out...I am so happy. No muscle gain slowing me up because I haven't done any exercise:( well, this was only one serious dieting week, I hope I will take a page out of your book Ledom and start adding exercise. I go for a walk everyday but it isn't more than 20 min. I am glad you are happy with BFL Ledom. Hmmm, I wonder if the complexion is related to kicking the diet coke? Do you still have coffee?

I think I might sell 3 nun dolls on EBAY and just keep the Blessing doll ones. I think I would like to collect Lladro nun figurines instead. But I am still sticking to my no buying for the month of October. My DH keeps ribbing me about it and is sure I will crack and break my resolve but I will show him:smug:

aleka
10-12-2002, 10:03 AM
We are to have on and off rain this weekend. It's to clear up by Mon., just in time for the summer people to go home:smug:

Had a great shopping spree on Thurs. I bought 4 T/neck jerseys, 2 to go with a suede vest I bought a couple of weeks ago, 1 to go with a sweater I bought at the same time as the vest, and 1 just because I loved the turquoise color. I also bought a pair of denim & a pair of black leggings. While shopping, my GF went into her favorite jewelry store and I saw these 2 fabulous rings that I simply adored. I knew I would not buy either one for myself, so the salesperson wrote down the product no. and price of both rings onto her business card. When I got home I handed the card to DH and told him to pick one and give it to me for Christmas. He had the most stunned look on his face, and it was priceless!:spin:

This weekend I will be putting my summer clothes away and taking out my winter garb. :(

judi, WOW!!!! 4 1/2 lb. :cb: :cp: :dancer: You are on a roll!!!
The Farmers Almanac said that we are in for a very cold and snowy winter. I don't know how they can predict that far ahead, they can't even predict a day ahead. A HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you on Mon.

ledom, I'm glad that you are very happy with BFL and that your pant o meter is going in the right direction. When your muscle gain kicks in, remember to rely heavily on your pant o meter. Glad you are having cooler temps. Do you have anymore kayak trips planned?

At the WW meeting on Tues., the leader had some good advice. She suggested that you write down what your feelings were when the bolt of lightning hit that it was time to lose weight, and whenever your resolve starts to falter, to go back an read what you had written to get back the resolve you felt at the beginning.

Take care and enjoy the rest of your weekend.

ledom
10-12-2002, 10:30 AM
Hey Ladies,

It's so good to hear you are both doing so well. Alice, sounds like a great shopping trip by the way. Like your ring idea - I hope Santa pulls through for you.:D

judi, things have evened out with D at school. We have a standing lunch date on Wed. and that is working out good. Sometimes I bring our lunch and sometimes we go out. I see her or talk to her about 5 min. every day, usually to bring her something she left at home - that sort of thing. We are weaning away from each other very gently as you can tell. She seems to be happier as the weeks go by. She has a scholarship and as far as I can tell she is serious about keeping good grades. When she lets slip about something she hasn't done yet, I am a very dutiful nagger.:^: One day last week I took her to the library - using the library is not something she learned how to do in High School. I have several friends that work over there and I pretty much just had to walk in the door with her and they took over. After their help though, she and I walked around and I showed her some stuff. I have to say that I really enjoyed doing that. She seemed appreciative and stunned as well. She wants to give a speech in one of her classes about Conan O'Brien and she didn't believe me when I told her she would be able to find lots of information in the library. So - that's how that is going.

I got out in the kayak a couple times this week. Yesterday morning I took one of my colleagues with me. You would love this man, he was MY painting teacher when I was a student in the 70's (I teach where I got my first degree). Anyway, he is a Cajun and he was telling me the most delightful stories about paddling the swamps in a pirogue when he was a boy. He took his digital camera and was just a delightful companion. It was a gray, early fall day and just beautiful. The air temp. was perfect, probably about 70 degrees.

I have at least 12 rolls of film to develop. I haven't been in my darkroom in too long. I just get so busy when school starts, but I do need to at least develop the film.

As you know, I am a bodybuilder now :smug: . One night this past week I got down in the basement and cleaned up the space where I have an ancient weight bench. I have enough equipment to get me going, but I need to add some weights and I'd really like a new and fancier weight bench as well. I usually buy myself a birthday present and I think that is what it will be this year. I have one located but the store is out of stock, as soon as it comes in I will get it.

I'm long winded this a.m. it seems. I am going to start thread #98. See you there.