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Frances123
04-28-2010, 05:31 PM
I would love any advice I can get.

I've got a lot of weight to lose...80 pounds. I've always been a yo-yo dieter and have gained and lost this same amount several times in the past. However, I have committed to making a lifestyle change and really losing it this time.

For 2 1/2 months, I've faithfully gone to the gym.
2 days a week - strength training, 1 hour each.
2 days a week - dripping-with-sweat cardio (70 minutes each time)
1 day a week - brisk one hour walk
1 day a week - jog
1 day off

I've followed Weight Watchers, with the exception of a 5 day vacation, where I walked miles every day but ate junk.

And...I have lost...no weight. On the contrary...I have gone UP a pound. Strangely, I am now 1 size smaller in shirts, but no smaller on bottom. Not sure why I'd be the same on bottom with all the cardio I do.

I journal. I drink lots of water. I write down what I eat. I eat whole grains, fruit every day, lots of fiber, etc. I've gone to the doctor and had blood tests - everything's fine (thyroid, blood sugar). I'm not pregnant.

Because I've committed to the lifestyle change, I'm going to keep plugging along no matter what. But I'm incredibly discouraged. WHY wouldn't I lose any weight after so long? WHY are my jeans not getting any looser (just seem to be losing a few inches on top)? I'd understand if I was close to my goal weight but with so much to lose, it seems like the weight should by flying off with what I'm doing.

Please help!!


toobig
04-28-2010, 05:47 PM
How many calories are you eating?

JayEll
04-28-2010, 05:51 PM
If you are following WW, why not ask your group leader? Or, you could ask over in the 3FC Weight Watchers forums.

You need to give more specifics on how many points you are eating.

Jay


toobig
04-28-2010, 05:54 PM
How did I miss the weight watchers reference? Thanks Jay.

Frances123
04-28-2010, 06:11 PM
I'm just doing WW on my own from home. I've done it (successfully) many times in the past so saw no reason to join again...I eat about 1300 - 1600 calories per day.

PinkHoodie
04-28-2010, 06:14 PM
For all your working out I doubt you are eating enough...just my personal opinion. Your calories seem very low for someone working out as much as you do. I would try bumping it up, and see what happens...

ohiofreespirit
04-28-2010, 06:19 PM
i would try to eat between 1600, 1700, maybe even 1800 calories. What you're eating just seems so low. It seems wrong to suggest eating more food but if you've gone this long and are not losing any weight at all, something is off.

mandalinn82
04-28-2010, 06:21 PM
Do you have a sample day's meal plan? What are you eating?

Shytowngal
04-28-2010, 06:31 PM
Are you eating your 35 flex points? People who eliminate them, thinking they will lose weight faster usually see no loss instead.

Veil
04-28-2010, 06:44 PM
You might have thrown your body in starvation mode and it's reacting by hanging on to EVERY SINGLE CALORIE because it thinks you are running for your life and can't find anything to eat!! It sounds so ridiculous, but up your calories and that will signal your body "Ohhhh, i am NOT starving... now i will go into these fat reserves and burn 'em up!!" well, that's my two cents!! Keep doing what you are doing, I know your heart and muscles are getting stronger with each work out.

QuilterInVA
04-28-2010, 07:39 PM
You are doing your version of WW if you aren't going to meetings or doing on-line. They tweek the program every year. It might be usedful to go to at least one meeting and get the new materials. If you do the plan as written, you will lose weight.

Frances123
04-28-2010, 07:55 PM
Thanks for the advice...I will try upping the calories a little. I don't feel hungry and I don't like eating when I'm not hungry, but anything to jump start my weight loss!! :^:

rockinrobin
04-28-2010, 08:08 PM
Thanks for the advice...I will try upping the calories a little. I don't feel hungry and I don't like eating when I'm not hungry, but anything to jump start my weight loss!! :^:

Umm, I'm going to strongly disagree with everyone here. If you're not losing weight, increasing your food intake is certainly not going to help things along. Starvation mode doesn't happen when there's still fat on a person, so eating more calories is most likely NOT going to jump start your weight loss, IMO. Nu-uh, no way.

That being said, you haven't told us your weight and your height. Depending on the amount you are looking to lose/need to lose that can change the outlook.

You said you had a 5 day slip up. Is it possible there were any other days that you were off plan? Could it be that you're not measuring correctly? Underestimating your points/calories? Not accounting for a nibble here and a nibble there? I'm not saying that you are, but if it is the case that would certainly explain things.

If you want some further input, by all means, post your menu and we'll be more than happy to give you some ideas on how you can get things going.

jkinboston89
04-28-2010, 08:10 PM
Totally have to agree with rockinrobin on this one! :)

Shmead
04-28-2010, 08:33 PM
Umm, I'm going to strongly disagree with everyone here. If you're not losing weight, increasing your food intake is certainly not going to help things along. Starvation mode doesn't happen when there's still fat on a person, so eating more calories is most likely NOT going to jump start your weight loss, IMO. Nu-uh, no way.



I agree with you that the term "starvation mode" is a crock, and pretty much any attempt to explain human behavior through evolutionary biology raises my hackles--a person makes up some story about life as a caveman and things it explains why they go through a grocery store counter-clockwise or whatever.

That said, the phenomenon of losing weight more rapidly/consistently on a slightly higher calorie diet is pretty well supported anecdotally, and while it is true that the plural of "anecdote" is not "data", the fact is, AFAIK, we don't have any real data to go on here. To my knowledge, no one has put a large group on 1000, 1300, 1500, and 1800 calorie diets and tracked their weight loss.

I agree, it doesn't make intuitive sense. But the body is a complex machine and lots of things don't make intuitive sense: why to we give people with ADD stimulants? Why does the left side of our brain control the right side of your body? Why do we have an appendix? Science has answers--sometimes good ones -- to each of these questions, but they found the answer by acknowledging that something was happening contrary to expectation or explanation, and by probing for more information about the situation.

Yes, much of the time when people aren't losing weight they are deluded about how much they are eating. But that doesn't mean it's impossible that some other sort of metabolic thing is going on. I mean, PCOS/IR wasn't at all understood until about ten years ago--clearly, we still have a lot to learn about weight loss. I think it's premature to dismiss the possibility that this could be true in some circumstances.

Frances123
04-28-2010, 08:36 PM
All right, here's a typical menu:

BREAKFAST
1 cup cereal, 1/2 c. skim milk

LUNCH
2 oz. turkey sausage
1 slice swiss cheese
1 piece whole wheat bread
1/2 cup crushed tomatoes
1 serving pita chips
1 fiber bar

SUPPER
1 serving (145 grams) whole grain/wild rice
1 serving baked chicken with a little olive oil
1 fiber bar
1 fruit smoothie (1 1/2 - 2 cups fruit, 1/2 c. skim milk, 2 tablespoons sugar)

mkendrick
04-28-2010, 08:58 PM
Umm, I'm going to strongly disagree with everyone here. If you're not losing weight, increasing your food intake is certainly not going to help things along. Starvation mode doesn't happen when there's still fat on a person, so eating more calories is most likely NOT going to jump start your weight loss, IMO. Nu-uh, no way.

That being said, you haven't told us your weight and your height. Depending on the amount you are looking to lose/need to lose that can change the outlook.

You said you had a 5 day slip up. Is it possible there were any other days that you were off plan? Could it be that you're not measuring correctly? Underestimating your points/calories? Not accounting for a nibble here and a nibble there? I'm not saying that you are, but if it is the case that would certainly explain things.

If you want some further input, by all means, post your menu and we'll be more than happy to give you some ideas on how you can get things going.

rockinrobin, I LOVE your advice, and have a huge amount of respect for you, but I gotta disagree with you on this one :)

You commented on my own plateau thread about not upping calories at my new smaller size. I was stalled at 150, I'm not sure if you remember or not. I was eating 1200-1300, measuring/recording and not cheating. I had been losing steadily, started exercising, and stalled completely for a month. No change to my eating, just added exercise. I didn't have room to safely drop calories. I'd hardly fluctuate between 149.5 and 150.5.

I finally grew a pair, let myself eat 1800cal of healthy food for two or three days with no exercise, then resumed my work out routine while cycling between 1300-1600. I immediately dropped 3lbs. At the higher cal intake, I've had my best losses since I've started.

So I think it's safe advice to try upping calories for a week or so. By 100-200cal/day of healthy foods. If it doesn't work, oh well, lower calories right back down the next week. But I've seen countless people say that they jumpstarted their weight loss after a plateau by upping calories a bit.

mkendrick
04-28-2010, 09:02 PM
And Frances, I'm a strong believer in "a calorie is a calorie" no matter what the source. But what jumped out to me immediately is you have very few fruits and vegetables in your menu. I do believe I'd feel like I was starving if I ate that everyday, hehe. Is this a typical day? I know a lot of people swear by certain carb:protein:fat ratios...maybe you could lower your carb portion and up protein?

mandalinn82
04-28-2010, 09:04 PM
Here is my two cents, and you can take it for what it's worth.

Lots of people here find that, for weight loss, straight up calories in vs. calories out (like Weight Watchers) works. And physics backs them up...it's absolutely fact that if you take in fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight as your body uses stored calories for fuel.

Now, almost as many people here find that they need some sort of dietary "change" beyond calorie counting, toward whole foods, away from refined carbs, toward more vegetables, etc, to lose. This can be because they are too hungry on a more refined diet to sustain their low calorie levels, or because, even when eating a low number of calories of more-processed foods, their bodies just don't lose.

I fall into the latter group. If I eat sugar or drink alcohol or eat refined/white carbs, no matter how carefully I count the calories into my allotment, I will not lose or will gain weight. I suspect that something about those foods causes my body to burn calories less efficiently, changing the "calories out" part of the weight loss equation. If I ate your sample meal plan, with almost no veggies and a good amount of refined carb, even if I carefully watched my calories, I would lose weight slowly if at all. That's just the way my body works.

Then there are the things you don't even think about affecting loss. For example, I have been on and off a pain medication for the past year due to a shoulder injury. Every time I have to take it (either I tweak the shoulder or I get cortisone injections and need the pain control), my weight goes up 5 lbs, and I do not lose anything, those 5 or any other, until I have been off of the medication for 3-5 days. So there are other "gotchas" out there that can have a real effect on what you see on the scale.

We are all different, so no one can guess what your particular body might need, but a LOT of people on the boards have had significant success with adding in lots of veggies, cutting out the refined stuff (the sugar in the smoothie, the pita chips, and maybe the cereal depending on the brand), and focusing their diet on whole, less-processed foods. So if you're having trouble and looking for a place to start experimenting to see what works for you, that's as good a place as any.

You might start your day with steel cut oats instead of the cereal, with a serving of fruit, or to get more protein and veggies, some eggs or egg whites scrambled with some veggies.

Instead of the pita chips with lunch, you could try having some baby carrots or broccoli florets with hummus or another lower-calorie dip. The fiber bar could be replaced with fruit or another less-processed food.

You could replace the fiber bar at dinner with a good serving of veggies...there are a lot of ways to prepare them and get some variety, and they'll give you the fiber from the fiber bar, but also a ton of nutrients that a processed bar just won't have.

So if you're not having results with what you're doing, it may just be you need to tweak not the calories, but the content, of the foods you're choosing.

kaplods
04-28-2010, 09:13 PM
There's not just anectdotal evidence for the "eat more, lose more" phenomenon. There's some decent experimental evidence as well (if I can remember or refind the sources, I'll add them).

If you eat drastically fewer calories than your norm, it can result in the body burning fewer calories by several mechanisms. It's not really about starvation here, more "conservation of resources." It's an easy enough experiment. It will either work, or it will not. you will either lose more, or you will not.

Most people don't make their experiments long enough. Two weeks, even three without a loss is not necessarily a "plateau." Two or three weeks of any change in diet, or exercise isn't going to "tell you" anything about what's working and what doesn't.

When you're going more than 3 weeks without a weight loss on what seems like a very low calorie diet there are some "prime suspects" to consider. Endocrine disorders, primarily (diabetes, insulin resistance and thyroid issues are the top three). I'd recommend a check-up if at all possible.

Carb-conscious diets are often recommended for many of the endocrine disorders (I'm not pushing the idea of the Atkins induction level of carbs. I don't think most people need to go "that" low).

Low-carb has such a controversial reputation, and I think because the whole field is judged by people who are following the all-egg-and-bacon-no-veggie diet (which no legitimate plan, and that included Atkins endorses).

I was perhaps the most skeptical person on the planet about lower-carb dieting. I'd never tried any of them for more than two weeks (and most plans I gave even less of a chance). It was more than a year after my doctor recommended low-carb that I began to seriously consider it (only after a second opinion from a doctor who with her husband had each lost about 100 lbs on a modified Atkins (I'm not sure how they modified the Atkins, but I got the impression that it was more vegetables, and less saturated fat).

I was so skeptical that I used my daily food journal to test and retest the results of lower-carb eating I didn't analyze my results statistically, but I repeated the experiment over and over again many times to prove to myself that I was right (because I didn't expect it to be). A calorie is not a calorie in the sense that you will lose the same amount of weight on 1800 calories of snickers bars as 1800 calories of lean proteins and fresh vegetables. Some people may be fairly close (I know when I was much younger, I seemed to lose about the same amount of weight no matter where I got those calories).

Now, I lose substantially more weight on low-carb eating than I do on high-carb eating. On high-carb eating I'm tremendously hungry so it's hard to stay within calorie range, but even when I do I lose better and am less hungry when I limit carbs.

Again I'm not pushing a low-carb diet. Just suggesting that like increasing your calories, you consider experimenting with the proportions of macronutrients to see of one helps you lose more. The Zone Diet is a relatively moderate plan (40% calories from carbohydrates, 30% from fat and 30% from protein). The Low-Carb Bible by Elizabeth Ward provides a nice overview and summary of many low- and moderate- carbohydrate diets.

Best of luck,

Frances123
04-28-2010, 09:20 PM
Good advice. I know I don't eat enough veggies. I eat way too many carbs. I eat all whole grain, but I know I need more variety. I think I'll start with the cereal recommendation - instead of having cereal (carbs), I'll have fruit, or a hard-boiled egg, or a yogurt. I will try to add more veggies...ugh...I've never eaten them but I know I need to.

I wouldn't have thought that the food itself was the problem but I'm willing to change things up if it will make the scale move!!!

mkendrick
04-28-2010, 09:24 PM
I'm not much of a veggie eater either. And NOT because I don't like them, I actually am a big fan. My problem is 1) I'm a busy full time student/full time worker, and for some reason preparing veggies seems really time consuming...I think that's my own mental block though and 2) I'm a poor college kid living by myself. It's hard to buy fresh produce and eat it before it goes bad, and that's just a waste of money.

I've found that frozen veggies really fit into my lifestyle though. I can get a bag of Great Value stir fry mix veggies from Walmart for about $2 and saute it with some chicken. It makes enough for two or three dinners, it's cheap, and takes all of about 20 min to put together then just reheat leftovers.

rockinrobin
04-28-2010, 09:52 PM
mkendrick, by all means, you are more than entitled to your opinion!! I know there are some here who have upped their calories with positive results. I still believe that for majority of the folks - especially when first starting out that that is not the answer.

And quite frankly, the truth is, there is no way to know for certain when one ups their calories and then has a weight loss, if it was indeed the uppage of calories that caused the loss or the hard work they were doing prior.

And didn't you say that you started counting calories more precisely and added in exercise that got that scale to move back downward for you???????? Wait - didn't you also mention that once you started exercising your weight now comes off in chunks - so that may have been why you were *stalled*?

But did I really suggest that you lower your calories from 1200??? You sure you're not mistaken???? Regardless, I'm glad you figured out what works for you. :)

To the OP, I believe Mandalinns advice is spot on. You're eating lots of carbs - not so much veggies. Veggies work for you. Try roasting them - they're DELICIOUS. Roasted asparagus, beets, cauliflower, broccoli, brussel sprouts, green beans - they're a whole different ball game from boiled or steamed. Also, it's hard to tell how many calories you're consuming. Fiber bars vary in calories. So do cereals. You also may want to try spreading out your calories more through out the day. Breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, snack.

If you've mentioned this and I missed this, I apologize, but how long have you been doing this for with no results? And again, your current weight.

You've got to do some playing around and find the right mix for you.

ParadiseFalls
04-28-2010, 10:21 PM
I'm still new here and (as you see from my weight) have no authority on weight loss, but for what it's worth, when I first started I lost a ton in the first week and then next to nothing. I was eating 800ish calories and not exercising, which is probably comparable to what you're doing considering your exercise. Based on the advice of the ladies here, I bumped up my calories. I eat 1500-1700 (still no real exercise yet) and have lost fairly steadily. Could be all a coincidence with my fluctuations, but it certainly seems like upping the calories helped me.

Also, I think starvation mode does kick in on a bigger person. The first time I "successfully" lost weight, I literally starved myself eating less than 100 calories per day except one day a week, and I would GAIN weight when I ate 200 calories one day. My body was freaking out and I had to literally eat NOTHING to lose weight because my body held onto every calorie. :shrug:

But, again, you should probably ignore me because though I seem to be losing weight, I'm still a big fattie. ;)

mmccurdy
04-28-2010, 10:32 PM
be patient

cjdeluca
04-29-2010, 10:09 AM
I've been in the same boat as you for years. I've kept close track of what I've eaten, I've worked with a nutrionist and a Dr that specialized in weight loss for years. After two years of the ups and downs, I was diagnosed with a clinically, very slow metabolism. I also have PCOS, which doesn't help matters. I've been taking Metformin for the PCOS and following a whole foods diet. Try upping your veggie intake. If you can eat some raw veggies or raw nuts, it may help you. One of the whole foods nutritionists that I've consulted with told me that the most important thing is to balance your foods and stay away from chemicals like aspartame. If you want a piece of fruit, that fine but eat it with something that has protein (a handful of nuts (raw are best), an egg, etc.). It keeps your blood sugar balanced which makes you feel more full and reduces cravings.

Whatever you decide to do, keep up the exercising. It's good for you even if the scale isn't going in the direction you want it to. Also, keep in mind that muscle weighs more than fat so if you've just started the working out, the scale might not be moving because you're building muscle. I've been told to keep my calories in the 1400-1600 range with the exception of veggies that are either raw of lightly steamed. I eat as many veggies as I want.

Good luck!

cjdeluca
04-29-2010, 10:15 AM
Hey, ParadiseFalls,

Stop beating yourself up!!!! Just stick with a plan that's healthy for you. You're losing weight according to your ticker so that's GOOD!

I know you don't want to hear it, and I'm no skinny person either, but it takes time and dedication. Even if you don't exercise, if you watch your calories, that's a start. I have several health issues and have been told repeatedly NOT to exercise unless it's light yoga or a short walk. Try just walking around your neighborhood for 15 minutes. It's a start. But don't get down on yourself, it will happen.

I know that I personally feel like it never happens fast enough but I'm hopefully that my current plan will work. Who knows if it will but I gotta believe! Hang in there!

Veil
04-29-2010, 04:59 PM
I just read through this thread, and *wowie!*I see some great advice! When I look at my first post, I shouldn't have said "starvation" ...maybe a better term is "conservation", like one person said after me. Blessings to you all!!

-Audrey

Shytowngal
04-29-2010, 05:13 PM
Your meal plan posted is around 36 points. Is that your daily allotment? If not cut back on some things - or better yet, replace them with zero point veggies!

angelskeep
04-29-2010, 05:43 PM
Here's what I would do with the menu you listed:

Breakfast
1/2 cup fiber one cereal with 1/2 cup plain low fat yogurt & 1/2 cup frozen or fresh blueberries

Snack
carrot sticks dipped in 1 tblsp low fat or fat free dressing

lunch
3 oz. turkey sausage and 1/4 cup shredded low fat cheese
3-4 oz. spinach with veg--mushrooms, green onions, broccoli, cauliflower,
cucumber...whatever fresh veggies you like and pile everything on top of the spinach, including the sausage and the cheese
top with 2 tablespoons low fat salad dressing

Snack
1/2 cup low fat yogurt w/ 4 oz. sliced strawberries

Dinner
4 oz. boneless skinless chicken breast roasted or crock potted with salsa
1/2 cup brown or wild or combo rice with spinach (I cook mine in a rice cooker, and add frozen spinach when I put in the water so it all gets cooked together)
steamed or roasted veggies...LOTS of them

Snack
1 piece of fruit or one sliced cucmber with 1 tblsp dressing

If you have extra cals, you could add more yogurt, or more fruit or a piece of low cal whole grain bread.

I'm really suprised, but I am nopt missing bread much at all. I do eat pita bread or flatouts sometimes if I'm not having a grain with my meal, or if I want to make a sammich. I am finding that the less processed the food is, the more full I feel on average...I kind of have a theory that it's becuase the food takes longer to digest so stays in the system longer than processed food (when it's processed enough, it is akin to being partially digested already).

You've had a lot of good advice, and I thought I might take the foods you listed and show you how to "redo" them. Somtimes it helps to illustrate what everyone is talking about. Instead of "more veg" you can see where to put them, and what to use them to replace.

I sure hope that helps! You'll be fine, even if you aren't losing as fast as you'd like...I am not sure any of us is happy with our rate of loss. If you get a good solid healthy food foundation going, and keep track, you'll bne able to tweak it to fit YOUR body and needs.

Barb

PeanutsMom704
04-29-2010, 06:07 PM
I'll agree that there is lots of good advice, and I'll specifically second mandalinn's post.

I have not given up grains but and generally have at all 3 main meals but they are always whole grain, carefully measured portions - and by portion, I am not referring to the so called standard serving size, usually it's about 100-150 calories worth of a grain or other starchy carb.

The other question is whether you weigh/meaure your food - I noticed your sample menu gave ounces, etc. but wasn't sure if that was based on a food scale or if you are estimating.

beerab
04-29-2010, 06:32 PM
All right, here's a typical menu:

BREAKFAST
1 cup cereal, 1/2 c. skim milk

LUNCH
2 oz. turkey sausage
1 slice swiss cheese
1 piece whole wheat bread
1/2 cup crushed tomatoes
1 serving pita chips
1 fiber bar

SUPPER
1 serving (145 grams) whole grain/wild rice
1 serving baked chicken with a little olive oil
1 fiber bar
1 fruit smoothie (1 1/2 - 2 cups fruit, 1/2 c. skim milk, 2 tablespoons sugar)

I could not survive on this little food. Looks like you aren't even getting one serving of vegetables when you need 4-5 a day. I think angels suggestions are great btw :)

Frances123
04-30-2010, 09:21 AM
Thanks, everyone! So, I bought carrots and broccoli yesterday and had scrambled egg for breakfast instead of cereal. I'm going to slo-o-o-o-o-o-owly start moving things around in my diet and hopefully that will make a difference. The *amount* of food isn't the issue with me...when I was doing Weight Watchers, my daily target was 28 points and what I eat every day falls around that number, and I feel full, so I'm not worried about eating too little. I do know that my diet needs to change, though.

carter
04-30-2010, 10:16 AM
Frances - vegetables! Where are the vegetables? You can at least find a leaf of lettuce to put on that sandwich can't you? ;)

Add some chopped salad to that lunch, and steam or saute a couple of cups of broccoli or asparagus or peas or brussels sprouts or string beans or cauliflower or carrots or okra or anything else you can think of with that dinner, and you'll feel more satisfied for basically the same number of calories and a WHOLE LOT more nutrients.

I've been taking Michael Pollan's advice to heart: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly vegetables."

"Eat Food" means start with real identifiable ingredients and combine them to make your meals. With that in mind I'd kill the fiber bars - save them for an absolute last-resort on-the-go snack when some Real Food isn't immediately available.

I'd also, personally, lose the pita chips and replace them with two more ounces of turkey. Again, same calories but much more useful nutrients to keep your body going. Turkey is closer to the "Eat Food" philosophy than pita chips, to my mind.

And finally, "mostly vegetables." Start by adding a few vegetables. Then fall in love with them and add more and more until they take up the most space on your plate.

I can cook a whole pound of a (fresh or frozen) vegetable in just one tablespoon of olive oil and eat half of that with my dinner. It's a huge pile of food, crunchy and satisfying to eat, for maybe 70 or 80 calories packed with nutrients, fiber, and a touch of healthy fat. Do yourself the favor of eating vegetables! You'll get to enjoy big tasty delicious meals that really are good for you too.

SCraver
04-30-2010, 10:32 AM
Green Giant has boxes of frozen veggies. You pull the bag out of the box and put it in the microwave (some you do have to poke a hole in the bag). *poof* veggies ready to eat! I add a box to my lunch and I add a box to dinner for me and my hubby.

I do cook veggies when I have the chance, but the "place bag in microwave" frozen veggies have been a real life altering discovery for me! Lol!

Some of the boxes have a cheese or butter sauce. I have those on occassion - but they have trans fats and MSG, so I try to aviod them most days.

sarahyu
04-30-2010, 01:31 PM
Those steaming ziplock style bags are great too. You can make your own microwave bags yourself from raw veggies. I cut up veggies for lunch fill up a baggie and then pop it in the microwave for lunch at work. Works great and an easy way to ge the veggies in.

SCraver
04-30-2010, 01:39 PM
Those steaming ziplock style bags are great too. You can make your own microwave bags yourself from raw veggies. I cut up veggies for lunch fill up a baggie and then pop it in the microwave for lunch at work. Works great and an easy way to ge the veggies in.

~GASP!~ I didn't KNOW that Ziploc MADE bags for steaming...??? OMG - I could buy cheaper frozen veggies and toss them in there. I could microwave everything and never have dishes to clean!!

THANK YOU!

I wonder if Big Y/Stop and Shop has a store brand version...

SCraver
04-30-2010, 01:43 PM
~SQUEAL!~

They have recipies...

http://www.ziploc.com/Recipes/Pages/RecipesHome.aspx

sarahyu
04-30-2010, 04:40 PM
Wow, I didn't know they had a recipe section. Cool.

I've seen store brands also. and your'e right. Sometimes at lunch I just eat straight from the bag. It has a pleated bottom and stands up nicely. It comes in 2 sizes so just be sure to get the smaller one. The big one would probably be too bulky to try to eat out of.

Sarah

beerab
04-30-2010, 04:55 PM
I love the steamer bags! I steam bags of peas all the time- use half with dinner then the other half with lunch :D

TJFitnessDiva
05-01-2010, 12:10 AM
Try hitting the 5 healthy guidelines WW has as far as food is concerned :)

You are also working out a lot....which isn't bad but if you go from not working out to the schedule you are keeping from your OP it may be the culprit with your weight staying put.

Other than that I think everyone pretty much covered it ;)

loseweightwatz
06-10-2010, 08:55 AM
I guess you've hit the weight loss plateau. The reason is that the body works hard to maintain energy intake and output in balance. In short, the body does not like to lose weight. At your initial weight loss, you can see progression but this will slow down and eventually stop even though your exercise and food intake is consistent. The bottom line is, your efforts to burn more calories will eventually slow down.

hairchick40v
06-10-2010, 09:15 AM
I will tell you that a few years ago, I was goin to the gym 5 days a week, slammimg cardio on the elliptical 45 min or more and doin power yoga 3 to four days a week, and doin weight training... I was eating a low cal low fat diet... I never lost weight!!! I am insulin resistant and the only way for me to loose is to cut the carbs!!! We have cut out all sugar and anything that turns to sugar... We are following Atkins to the letter and it is working!! My daughter has lost 20 and I have lost almost 14 in 3 1/2 weeks... Now that being said, I don't think it works as good for everyone, it depends on your body... But if you have never tried, you might want to pick up a book and see...

My friend does weight watchers and even with her allowed points she eats alot of carbs, and if they are your problem, that could be why you are not losing...

TXMary2
06-10-2010, 09:34 AM
IWhy do we have an appendix?


LOL- as an aside I can answer this. It is a myth that the appendix serves no purpose. At least one function of the appendix is to "reboot" the intestines after a bad illness. There is bacteria that live in our intestines that we receive many benefits from, but some illnesses totally wipe them out. The appendix has a sort of dead end on it that acts as a storage place from some of the bacteria - they ride out the illness there and when the illness is gone the bacteria leave the appendix to repopulate the intestines.

Science nugget of the day. :)

Beach Patrol
06-10-2010, 12:24 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that the OP (Frances) said


For 2 1/2 months, I've faithfully gone to the gym.
2 days a week - strength training, 1 hour each.
2 days a week - dripping-with-sweat cardio (70 minutes each time)
1 day a week - brisk one hour walk
1 day a week - jog
1 day off

I've followed Weight Watchers, with the exception of a 5 day vacation, where I walked miles every day but ate junk.

And...I have lost...no weight. On the contrary...I have gone UP a pound. Strangely, I am now 1 size smaller in shirts, but no smaller on bottom. Not sure why I'd be the same on bottom with all the cardio I do.

No one has mentioned (or if they did, I missed it!) that she may be gaining MUSCLE weight while LOSING fat weight, and therefore the scale isn't being friendly, but she's LOST ONE SIZE in shirts. This means she's losing INCHES. And yes, that in itself is a success!

...just thought I'd point that out... ;) :D

rockinrobin
06-10-2010, 02:21 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that the OP (Frances) said



No one has mentioned (or if they did, I missed it!) that she may be gaining MUSCLE weight while LOSING fat weight, and therefore the scale isn't being friendly, but she's LOST ONE SIZE in shirts. This means she's losing INCHES. And yes, that in itself is a success!
:D

Maybe yes. Maybe no. It takes women a real long time to gain a significant amount of muscle. It takes a long time and it takes some real hard core muscle training to do that and most of the exercise mentioned is cardio.