This may sound rather silly, but I felt I had to post this.
First, I am a big Pop-Tart fan. Yes, I know they're packed pastries with tons of preservatives and whatnot but I don't care. I love them. And since I do Weight Watchers, I fit Pop-Tarts in as a treat whenever I can.
Well, today I was reading something about the new Pop-Tarts with fiber, and I was reading the comments left by others about how the nutrition information and packaging was so deceiving.
Well, lo and behold...I've been imagining that the nutrition information covers both pastries in the package...and it only covers one!
It may not sound like a big deal, but Pop Tarts are my treat of choice, and I eat them. A lot. And every time I've consumed them, I'm been consuming double my points. And that adds up.
To make matters worse, I approached my husband about this, and he just looks at me and says, "Well, yeah...you didn't know that?" :mad:
So now I feel really dumb. But at least I know what's been contributing to my difficulty losing weight
04-24-2010, 01:39 AM
Ahhh, yeah I LOVE pop tarts as well and I used to eat them every morning...back in high school when I lost weight the wrong way (that pop tart was my breakfast >.<)
As much as I love them, I just stay away from them, I don't even go down that isle in the store. lol
But at least you know now one package is two servings! I hope your weight loss starts getting a bit easier too.
04-24-2010, 04:18 AM
I totally did that too. And I got them from the "nutritious fiber bars" section in the supermarket, so I didn't even realize they were PopTarts (which somehow we never ate in my family growing up, so these were probably only the second or third I'd had in my life.) I thought they were just some more interesting form of fiber bar, which I keep in my office desk for food emergencies. And then after the emergency came and I had to enter the pack it into my LoseIt app, I was, like, *%$Y!
I still have the rest of the box sitting in the kitchen cabinet. Only now they're classified as "dessert".
04-24-2010, 04:25 AM
Yeah, I don't like that either. Esp on drink bottles. :P
04-24-2010, 10:25 AM
A head of broccoli would never lie to you about serving size ;)
04-24-2010, 11:18 AM
This is all a learning process. Now you know and you can carry on with that knowledge of always checking the servings on the labels as well as the other info.
04-24-2010, 11:19 AM
Yea, reading labels is pretty darn important. The "serving size" can really blow my mind sometimes. Like nuts, I NEVER knew the serving size was so few. Raw almonds 1/4 cup = 180 calories. Cold cereal!! varies from 1/4 to 1 cup... I used to eat 4 serving... and then crackers & chips... ahhhh!!
04-24-2010, 11:23 AM
Mmmm...I love poptarts. Before, when I ate whatever I want, I'd eat a pack of poptarts for breakfast every morning. I like the brown sugar and cinnamon ones. And the frosted blueberry ones. Mmmm....
I scrutinize nutrition labels pretty closely, so I haven't made a mistake like this yet. However, there are a lot of packaged foods with really counterintuitive serving sizes. They just make the labels smaller so that when people glance at the calorie count, they don't feel as bad. The food companies know well that most consumers are planning on eating both poptarts in one serving.
A few that I've noticed are bottles of soda, they're usually 2.5 servings or something ridiculous like that. Candy bars...who gets a snickers bar and plans on saving the second serving for later? Even those Select Harvest Light soups that conveniently come in microwavable bowls. If they assume that I will microwave the bowl that I bought it in and then conveniently eat out of the bowl, why would they think that it was more than one serving?
So, it's an honest mistake. At least now you know :)
04-24-2010, 11:24 AM
Hee :) I have done the same thing.
It could be worse though! There was a poster here years ago (and I don't remember who it was, so apologies if it was any reader of this thread!) who thought that since the ICBITB spray listed 0 calories on the back, that meant she could open the sprayer and pour liquid ICBITB over everything she wanted to taste buttery for 0 calories. Apparently, she was using it a LOT!
Here's the scoop: 12.5 sprays is 10 calories and 1 gram of fat, 25 sprays (1 teaspoon) is 20 calories and 2 grams of fat, and 37.5 sprays is 30 calories and 3 grams of fat. The entire bottle contains 900 calories and 90 grams of fat!
(and of course, a 1 second spray has 0 calories, because of manufacturers are allowed to call anything less than .5g 0, that's how so many are able to say 0 transfat PER SERVING, when it's like .03 per serving or whatever).
04-24-2010, 11:25 AM
Or oreo cookies, lol....the serving size is 2 cookies. Anybody who has a bag of of oreo cookies near them would have to be a MUCH stronger person than I to stop at TWO oreos, haha.
04-24-2010, 11:28 AM
Oh yes, you must be very AWARE of serving sizes. Muffins? Many times the nutritional information is for 1/2 the muffin, so that a WHOLE muffin is really two portions. How crazy (& deceptive) is that?
About those pop tarts that you love so much. Well, you may start off being able to fit them into your plan, but you may find down the road that though they TASTE good, that they're not satiating enough. That you will be hungry and crave-y and you may decide they are no longer worth it. You may decide you need to get more filling power from your calories (points) and you just may want to give them up.
I know there were lots of foods that I LOVED and thought that there was no way on earth I could live without them, but upon deciding to lose the weight and get healthy I realized that I loved ME and good health and wanting the best life possible even more. So I had to discover other foods that I loved. Ones that tasted great and were great for me. Ones that weren't only good while I was eating them, but they were good for me long after I was done chewing.
Like you've discovered, this IS a learning process and you will definitely keep on learning. It's quite the adventure!
04-24-2010, 11:45 AM
Here's another thing to watch out for. Applebee's does not list nutritional information on their website, but if you look up their foods on places like TheDailyPlate, LiveStrong, etc., you'll find that their Quesadilla Burger is listed as just over 500 calories for 1 burger. This is simply untrue! The serving size is ONE HALF the burger, not 1 burger! So the burger actually has over 1,000 calories. (I found this out on one of those "worst foods you can eat" web articles.)
But if you think about it, you can see what's happened. The "Lowfat Chicken Quesadilla" has 742 calories per serving (the whole shebang), so it's impossible for 1 Quesadilla Burger to have less than that! But each calorie counting website just picks up the information from the same bad source, so it gets duplicated and spread everywhere.
I guess the point is, be cautious! Be skeptical! If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't true!
04-24-2010, 12:14 PM
My favorite thing is to MAKE it, especially with the few baked goods that I still eat. That way I can control the portion size. A cup of white flour = 455 cal, a cup of whole wheat - 405. Then I can decide how many portions to divide it in. And made fresh they taste much better too, so it's not some crummy thing that's not worth the calories in it. (Today I made a batch of 164-cal bagels, yum.)
04-24-2010, 01:00 PM
It's natural to think the serving size is 2 snce that's how they are packaged. I wish they would change this, but they have done it ever since I can remember.
I was shocked to hear on another thread at how many calories some of the Panera bagels have, and that's before putting cream cheese on it. I haven't fallen into that particular trap, but I know I could have.
04-24-2010, 01:44 PM
Don't feel stupid. It's happened to all of us at one point or another. Now that you know the deal with them just remember when you're eating them that you can either eat one for x points or two for xx points. I used to love pop-tarts too but after eating healthy for a while, I went and had one and noticed a different in the way I felt. I have problems rememberring that the "crappy" food I used to live on really does affect the way you feel. So, once in a while, I indulge in something that's not good. Whether that's a pop-tart, ice cream, the dreaded Mc Donald's, etc. It all comes back in end to make me feel gross. I now eat a primarily whole foods diet that consists mostly of raw fruits and veggies. While it was hard to start this (I cheated ALOT!) I've come to realize that I really do feel better when I eat this way.
04-24-2010, 04:20 PM
You really aren't stupid. It was a reasonable mistake to make. They are packaged together after all!
The reason that serving sizes seem so small is because the present standards were determined about 40 years ago from surveys when people consumed less food. Even though the serving size is regulated we all know from observation that the food companies take advantage of the outdated regulations.
Poptarts are really awful for you, but you know that. Even switching to the "fiber" poptarts would be a lot better since they have more fiber and protein than a normal one. Maybe crisp diet / whole wheat toast with a tad of butter spray and no-sugar, low sugar jam/jelly or cinnamon and sweetner you would eventually find satisfying?
04-24-2010, 04:27 PM
I agree, it's not stupid! Those nutrition labels can be sneaky. One time I brought something to lunch thinking it was like 200 something cals but instead it was like double that, and it set me over my daily limit. It's okay though because at least you know now, you can still have a poptart, too!
04-24-2010, 04:44 PM
I can't post links yet, but if you google the phrase
calorie counts packaged food inaccurate
you will turn up a bunch of recent articles about how inaccurate the calorie counts can be in both packaged foods and in restaurants -- even if you get the serving size right (and those serving sizes are always so silly).
I made a similar-but-different mistake when not once, but twice, I bought regular root beer when I meant to buy diet. So instead of treating myself to a no-cal soda every day, I was drinking, you guessed it, 2 servings of full-calorie sugar soda. Duh!
04-24-2010, 05:34 PM
No need to beat yourself up over this. Food companys are very good at what they do. They know as well as we do, that if they posted the 'obvious' we'd most likely pass on these items. So they have to be deceptive and it's up to us to rigerously check out the labels.
Case in point: I once got ready to throw a pack of individually bagged cookies in my cart. Once I read the label I realized the 'individual' bags each contained 2.5 servings each. Now, to the naked eye it sure looked like a package of 6 SMALL individual bags. But, it wasn't. Deceptive, deceptive, deceptive.
Live and learn. You're not the first to be fooled and you certainly won't be the last. It's a battleground out there! But, take heart, it will be alot harder to fool you next time, won't it? ;)
04-24-2010, 06:11 PM
Servings sizes ARE small. I believe the reason for that is that when we were created we were intended to eat very little. And that was for our protection. Times were tough back then. Food was scarce. The reason we require so little food to survive is indeed for our survival. It was intended to protect us in times of famine. Thing is - we are always in times of FEAST. So, it kinda back fired. We were intended to eat very little (& move a LOT) of high quality foods (natural ones), but instead we are eating a high quantity of processed foods with no value. Definitely not how it was intended to be. :(
That's why we need to be extra vigilant, make really good choices and look the other way at 95% of the food out there on the market. More of a challenge, but it's doable. It's definitely doable. :)
04-24-2010, 07:50 PM
I hate this.
But what I hate more is when the grams vs. the cup size doesn't match.
Like almonds. I have a 1/4 measuring cup IN my giant costco box of almonds, which is 1 serving size. Even when i fill the thing flush to the top (no cheating!), the gram weight is always WAY higher than the serving size says.
Sometimes, it feels like trying to be conscious of serving size is near impossible. Because really, who eats 1 pop-tart or 1 serving of canned soup?
04-24-2010, 08:42 PM
Ha don't you hate that? It's everywhere. I always get excited when I look at a nutrition label and I'm like "OH! That's not bad!" but then I see it's for 3 servings. If it plays tricks like that, 99 times out of 100 I won't even buy it.
One thing you can do it make your own poptarts. I found this recipe while stumbling (it's this thing you can add to your web browser that takes you to random websites.) They look really good, and I bet they taste better. You can do things to make them healthier too, and portion control them by freezing a majority of the dough or better yet, giving it away!
Here's the site for the homemade poptarts: click meeee (http://crepesofwrath.net/2010/04/05/homemade-pop-tarts/)
04-25-2010, 02:35 PM
Oh - I found this old thread of mine, to make you feel better!
Jamba Juice now has all of the nutritional info listed beside EACH product, which is AWESOME. Go JJ!
04-25-2010, 02:56 PM
Alright, I just had one of these oopsies, hehe...
I use caloriecount.com, and I've been plugging my 12-inch turkey sandwich from Subway in. It says it's 560 calories, which is a lot, but I budget it in once a week. Welllll, I've always gotten honey oat bread. I didn't even think about the breads having different calorie counts (which was silly...hindsight is 20/20). Just out of curiosity, I looked it up on Subway's website. A 12-in loaf of honey oat bread has 100 more calories than wheat! I guess that's not a huge deal, 100 extra calories/week, but I have no difference in preference between the honey oat and wheat bread, so I could have been saving those 100 cal and spending them elsewhere...or at least recording them, lol.
04-25-2010, 03:24 PM
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who does silly things like this :D
I have noticed something that rockinrobin pointed out, though- as I've been changing how I eat, I've been liking healthier and natural foods more and more. For example, I've started eating nonfat yogurt with berries for dessert, and replacing half my diet soda for water with lemon (the lemon is key!). Honestly, I'm very surprised at how, well, normal it feels. And it doesn't mean that I don't have ice cream or diet soda or anything like that. I just have less of it.
I'm also intrigued by bronzeager's suggestion of making my own. Makes me want to pick up some whole wheat flour and no sugar added jam, yummy :):)
04-25-2010, 03:27 PM
Ugh.. I feel you. You are not stupid! Serving size is one of the most frustrating things. I bought a can of no salt added green beans (i suck at getting veggies in so they were a good alternative) and I was thinking it would be like soup... two servings in a can. Nope.. 3.5! So weird!
I am very conscious about serving sizes now.. always read packages before I buy anything. Its very deceptive and frustrating. Its also hard with some veggies and fruit since they don't come with labels. And when I type it into DailyPlate all these different things pop up, so I have to do some searching to find the RIGHT one!
04-25-2010, 11:51 PM
I know it's not the most nutritious option, but some grocery stores near me have started carrying these 100 calorie pre-portioned bags of pop tart mini bites. They aren't soft and chewy like a pop tart, more of a crunchy texture. But they do have a similar taste and they come in chocolate and strawberry flavors.
Again.....not really good for you, but maybe it could be a more low-cal way to satisfy your cravings once in awhile?