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effie12
03-14-2010, 02:48 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1257850/Super-sized-mother-determined-worlds-fattest-woman-years.html

I just don't even have words to describe how much this saddens me. Her poor daughter, I feel like this is incredibly selfish and no matter how 'healthy' she says she is, eating 12,000 calories a day, striving to weigh 1,000 lbs, and not being able to walk 20 feet without feeling winded is horrifyingly unhealthy, both physically and mentally. I cannot imagine what must have happened in her life to make her think that weighing that much will make her happy.

What do you think?


grrrkgrrrl
03-14-2010, 02:57 PM
:( all i have to say.

the real concern there would be the children. for her, it's her life she can choose what to do with it. but the example she's giving...

Thighs Be Gone
03-14-2010, 03:20 PM
So sad and so ignorant. :(


CardboardCutoutCat
03-14-2010, 04:14 PM
I just read this article.

Now, I'm all for each to their own.. I really really am, and if she wants to be a million lbs in weight then fine, that's her issue. BUT it's not okay when THIRTY medics had to be there to assist her with her daughter's birth. Who knows what else was going down at the hospital that night, how many emergencies and people in dire need of care there were, and 30 medics are too busy to attend to needy people and urgent cases because of this woman's selfish choice. And yes, she is selfish, because she is trying to get fatter and fatter to set some stupid record, despite knowing full well what a drain on resources she is. She is selfish because she clearly doesn't care about being healthy for her daughter. 43 stone is what, 600 lbs?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1257850/Super-sized-mother-determined-worlds-fattest-woman-years.html

And there's no way in **** she's healthy, as she insists.

Rashomon
03-14-2010, 04:44 PM
If she didn't have a child, then it would be whatever, but she does. I'm all for feeling good at whatever weight you are, but not intentionally killing yourself for it and leaving your child motherless. She's not teaching her child to have a healthy body image at all, she's teaching her child to mutilate your body to be appealing to other people, no matter if it harms or kills you in the process. She's finding validation through men, encouraging her to eat more and gain more weight.

lauralyn
03-14-2010, 06:02 PM
I believe she was on the Tyra show recently and was disappointed when they weighed her and she did not weigh as much as she thought she did.

It is sad because her daughter is missing out on a mom who can do things with her and watch her grow up because the way she is going she will not see her reach adulthood.

bunnythesAINT
03-14-2010, 06:12 PM
That's...really scary actually. I guess I can't describe how it makes me feel, I want to say kind of disgusted, but I feel it's hypocritical of me? I think that whenever she does (if she does) reach 1,000 she's not going to be as happy as she thinks she will be. It honestly sounds like she likes the attention and if there's more of her more people will pay attention.

Shopaholic1204
03-14-2010, 06:22 PM
OMFG!!!! I hope she doesn't die in the process of her "dream".

AzimuthRing
03-14-2010, 11:47 PM
In my perspective, it appears this is more of a case of someone suffering from a skewed sense of reality or mental illness. Much like a person who wants to be so thin, they are willing to die to see their skin and bones in the mirror.

I hope someone reading the story - her family, friends, or whomever - can intervene on her behalf. I'm going to say a prayer for her. She definitely needs it.

Michelle1210
03-15-2010, 12:35 AM
I have Heard of men being chubby chasers, thought nothing of it, but to pay to watch this women eat, and to send her gifts to plump her up, that is ....well leaving me speechless....

chickybird
03-15-2010, 01:06 AM
I feel so sad for her daughter. She's going to grow up thinking that kind of relationship with food and men is healthy, and that is just sad.

HokieLoki
03-15-2010, 04:53 AM
Gross... reading that made me lose my appetite.

Thanks!

mkyice
03-15-2010, 10:22 AM
That's insane! I don't even know how to respond to that. I hope she comes to her senses.

kaplods
03-15-2010, 04:23 PM
I feel sad for her and her daughter.

I can empathise (because I can empathise with almost any situation, it's a weird trait I've always had, and probably why I chose psychology as my field of study. I've got a master's degree in developmental psych and a bachelor's in behavioral psych).

I think what happened is that she had a hard time losing weight (like many of us do), and it became overwhelming, and then she started getting all this positive attention for "what came easy" where she was getting little or no credit for losing or maintaining her weight (because quite frankly, most people don't care - and I'm not saying they should).

Some people crave celebrity and attention, and are willing to take notoriety (because even negative attention, is attention). Here, she gets some of both. In the counterculture of feeders and fat admirer's she gets positive attention, and from mainstream culture she gets notoriety - which in her mind means that EVERYONE is paying attention to her, which must mean she's special.

Sad, though that this is the only way she can find to feel special.

Asherdoodles87
03-15-2010, 04:58 PM
I feel so sorry for the child; she's growing up around someone who is setting very bad examples of what is healthy to eat. I just hope the child doesn't become overweight as well. I hope this women will give up her goal of reach 1,000lbs. It's not safe.

Tomato
03-15-2010, 04:59 PM
Effie,
You beat me to this. I just read the article about Donna Simpson on Czech online news and I was shocked. Warning - the page includes a rather graphic image of Mrs. Simpson:

Americka matka (http://alturl.com/rnmp)

And here is the same article in English:
http://www.news.com.au/world/fat-and-proud-donna-simpson-determined-to-double-273kg-size-in-two-years/story-e6frfkyi-1225840957636

What on Earth is she thinking?

aluxa
03-15-2010, 08:00 PM
This is so sad. This woman and her family need help. His husband support and the press attention make everything worse.

Kuribo
03-16-2010, 03:41 AM
The scariest thing in all of this is the impact she's going to have on the child.


Even apart from them not being able to enjoy an active life together, what kind of messed up, horrible ideas will her little girl have about eating?!

Primm
03-16-2010, 06:58 AM
I was talking to a friend about this today.

In my opinion she has a mental illness that is in the same vein as anorexia. She is using food as a mechanism for self-harm.

If she was 90 pounds and wanted to get to 70, they'd section her, put her in a psych hospital and feed her through a tube, because she was endangering herself. How is this any different? This woman should be treated the same, detained in a psychiatric facility and treated for the eating disorder she has that is going to kill her.

Very sad story. I feel particularly sad for the little girl.

kaplods
03-16-2010, 09:45 AM
If she was 90 pounds and wanted to get to 70, they'd section her, put her in a psych hospital and feed her through a tube, because she was endangering herself.


Actually, probably not. It's not nearly as easy to commit someone against their will as it's often assumed. The risk to self or others has to essentially be imminent.

When I was working in a psych ward, it was notoriously difficult to get and keep anorexics in treatment. Because the moment they were assessed as having no immediate risk, they were discharged. It couldn't just be body weight itself, the person had to have something independently wrong (something that would have been a risk at any weight, such as dangerously low blood pressure, or failing kidneys). Body weight alone wasn't a sufficient criteria.

Most of it has to do with insurance, oddly (or maybe not so oddly) enough. In my experience working in and with hospitals, if you don't have insurance, you're discharged the moment the hospital can justify it (you're not going to die today). If you do have insurance, you're discharged the moment the insurance decides it won't pay anymore (many insurances have very strict guidelines regarding mental health treatment. Again, many times the instant an anorexic person was at a weight that removed the patient from imminent risk of death, insurance stopped paying and the person was discharged immediately).

Getting insurances to commit to a full course of treatment, was like pulling teeth.

natamars
03-16-2010, 07:20 PM
This is so sad that she is seeking validation in this unhealthy way. I feel so badly for her kids.

But I am not surprised there are men online willing to pay to watch her eat. There's an a$$ for every seat.

schubunny
03-17-2010, 01:28 AM
Please be advised this is NSFW (not safe for work) as there are some pictures that may be offensive. No nudity, but just something I would definitely not look at on the job.
Also, please be advised the content may also offend some people as it speaks about obesity and other weight issues and mentions an 18+ website.

I could not find which forum this should be on, but this was just too crazy I could not -not- post it. Please move it to the correct forum if need be.

Woman weighs 550lbs and wants to gain more for $$$ (http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=c1b674c6-9987-4c81-a630-6ce9bd7f0c97)

I just don't understand how someone can be like this. I understand that she is making money off of it, and to each their own, but some of the things mentioned in the video are just insane.

- she doesn't believe in diseases linked to obsesity
- she says she hopes her children have good genes so they stay skinny
- she claims she eats healthy food, then talks about buying cake, etc

:censored:!!!

Opinions?

thinmintintraining
03-17-2010, 01:47 AM
Well, that is just absolutely insane!! I don't know about anybody else but I'm over 350 and I have a hard time doing things! There just isn't enough money!! I guess eating healthy is no good unless you are gonna exercise and I'm not sure "jiggling" could be considered an exercise!

People like that I think need one of these...:kickbutt:

That was just disturbing!! This might sound a little mean but she probably won't have to worry about her kids' genes. Just watching what is happening to their mother should be enough to keep them from living on junk! What good will the money be if she dies? It's sad really! :(

Skyra
03-17-2010, 01:48 AM
totally crazy. this video made me angry too... as if "not believing" in diseases can make them not happen! absurd!

schubunny
03-17-2010, 01:56 AM
totally crazy. this video made me angry too... as if "not believing" in diseases can make them not happen! absurd!

I felt a bit angry as well. For me it was two reason:

- I am working so hard to get healthy and down to my correct weight, and hearing this woman's story just makes it feel like it's all for nothing.

- I wish she had more self-esteem to notice how bad this is for her mind and body, and that it can harm her family as well.

sunflowergirl68
03-17-2010, 02:46 AM
She should have her kids taken away from her.

And she also doesn't seem to realize that her "fans" are seriously mentally disturbed. And it sounds like she is, too.

Primm
03-17-2010, 04:57 AM
Actually, probably not. It's not nearly as easy to commit someone against their will as it's often assumed. The risk to self or others has to essentially be imminent.

When I was working in a psych ward, it was notoriously difficult to get and keep anorexics in treatment. Because the moment they were assessed as having no immediate risk, they were discharged. It couldn't just be body weight itself, the person had to have something independently wrong (something that would have been a risk at any weight, such as dangerously low blood pressure, or failing kidneys). Body weight alone wasn't a sufficient criteria.

Most of it has to do with insurance, oddly (or maybe not so oddly) enough. In my experience working in and with hospitals, if you don't have insurance, you're discharged the moment the hospital can justify it (you're not going to die today). If you do have insurance, you're discharged the moment the insurance decides it won't pay anymore (many insurances have very strict guidelines regarding mental health treatment. Again, many times the instant an anorexic person was at a weight that removed the patient from imminent risk of death, insurance stopped paying and the person was discharged immediately).

Getting insurances to commit to a full course of treatment, was like pulling teeth.

Really? I guess I'm coming from the health system where I live (Australia) and assuming that since our two countries are close in a number of demographics that things would work similarly.

That's very sad. So they never get the full course of treatment, basically, because of the insurance companies? How unfortunate. Here it's the psychs who dictate when a person doesn't need inpatient treatment any more, not the insurance companies.

kaplods
03-17-2010, 06:20 AM
Really? I guess I'm coming from the health system where I live (Australia) and assuming that since our two countries are close in a number of demographics that things would work similarly.

That's very sad. So they never get the full course of treatment, basically, because of the insurance companies? How unfortunate. Here it's the psychs who dictate when a person doesn't need inpatient treatment any more, not the insurance companies.


It's not so dismal that no one gets the full course of treatment, but a patient can only be held against their will for 5 days without a hearing. For the hearing judge to mandate involuntary treatment, the person has to be an immediate threat to themselves "will die eventually" from the consequences of their mental illness isn't generally sufficient grounds. So a 90 lb anorexic (even if he or she wants to weigh 20 lbs) won't generally be admitted if they happen to have no immediate risk of death.


Many people DO get the full course of treatment, although I don't know that I'd say most. It really depends on which insurance a person has, and also the hospital or treatment center in question, and also a LOT to do with whether the person is a willing patient. It's a lot easier to get insurance to pay for a patient who feels he or she does need in-patient treatment, than to get insurance companies to pay for a patient who does not feel in-patient
treatment is necessary.


In my experience, the patients who had the least insurance problems were those that sought treatment willingly, and had family members willing to help them fight the insurance companies if necessary. Insurance companies seemed less likely to fight the necessity of treatment when both the doctor AND the patient are agreeing that treatment is necessary, and are willing to fight the insurance company over it. However, if the patient is not willing, the insurance company is often more willing to refuse to pay.

I was very disillusioned to find that often the psychiatrists recommendations for treatment were so dependent on the person's insurance. If three people had very similar problems, but one person's insurance paid for 30 days, another for 60, and another for 90 - the recommendation was most often "coincidentally" for the exact length of time that the insurance would pay, and not a day longer. The person was "ready" to go home coincidentally when their insurance ran out.

This didn't always happen, but it happened so often to make me very cynical of the system. And there were times when the system worked perfectly, but very rarely in the case of involuntary commitments (except occasionally with children).

There were also times when it did work. The hospital was willing to fight the insurance company, or the patients relative was willing to fight the insurance company - but when you're dealing with an involuntary patient, if they don't think they're really sick - they're not going to fight their insurance to pay for what they say they don't need.

Often it went something like this. The hospital doctor would say the person needs in-patient treatment. The patient would say "no I don't, and I won't cooperate with in-patient treatment." So, the insurance company hires their own doctor to do an eval. They meet with the patient and write their report that in essence recommends out-patient treatment, justifying it (and it sounds logical on the surfact) by saying (truthfully enough) that the patient is unlikely to be cooperative with in-patient treatment, but is amenable to out-patient treatment (of course when asked whether they'll promise to go to out-patient treatment, if that's recommended, they will because they don't want to be in the hospital). This doctor suggests that out-patient will be more effective because of the patient's promised cooperation.

The person may or may not comply with outpatient therapy, and there are usually no consequences unless they're court-ordered to complete therapy (which is unlikely, unless a crime was committed in some way and the judge makes treatment a condition of probation or conditional discharge, something like that).

Often the patient cooperates with out-patient treatment for a while, but gradually stops going.









some insurance companies are more.

CurlyWurly
03-17-2010, 07:50 AM
Holy moly! It made me angry to watch. Because she IS going to die if she carries on. I've had two family members who have died from heart failure linked directly to their obesity! As a mother she should be doing everything within her power to be as healthy as she can to ensure she is around and fit and well to look after and be there for her children for as long as possible :(

My worst nightmaires are a) loosing my children and b) dying and leaving my children behind alone without a mother... The thought terrifies me and I would never do anything that could so obviously directly lead to my death!

Also, does she still think she's going to be mobile and able to care for her children when she is 1000lbs??? I doubt it. She must know its getting hard to do things just being the weight she already is. And who does she think will end up caring for her? Her children most likely! They won't have lives of their own if they have to care for their obese and immobile mother!

I can understand obesity in terms of you get into it and it's hard to get out of. I can NOT understand TRYING to make yourself extremely obese, and then even more so.

The people who are supporting her and sending her food and stuff are sick. They know she has a family. They are in effect paying to watch her kill herself. They should be ashamed and I'm disgusted there are such people out there.

Disturbing is not the word...

CurlyWurly
03-17-2010, 08:09 AM
Just replied to a video about this in another thread. To say, "I'm not harming anyone" is incredibly ignorant. Not only is she harming HERSELF but her poor children will have a horrible life if they end up being carers to her when she looses the ability to look after herself, and eventually when they loose her to the obesity for good.

This is what I replied on the other thread:

Holy moly! It made me angry to watch. Because she IS going to die if she carries on. I've had two family members who have died from heart failure linked directly to their obesity! As a mother she should be doing everything within her power to be as healthy as she can to ensure she is around and fit and well to look after and be there for her children for as long as possible

My worst nightmaires are a) loosing my children and b) dying and leaving my children behind alone without a mother... The thought terrifies me and I would never do anything that could so obviously directly lead to my death!

Also, does she still think she's going to be mobile and able to care for her children when she is 1000lbs??? I doubt it. She must know its getting hard to do things just being the weight she already is. And who does she think will end up caring for her? Her children most likely! They won't have lives of their own if they have to care for their obese and immobile mother!

I can understand obesity in terms of you get into it and it's hard to get out of. I can NOT understand TRYING to make yourself extremely obese, and then even more so.

The people who are supporting her and sending her food and stuff are sick. They know she has a family. They are in effect paying to watch her kill herself. They should be ashamed and I'm disgusted there are such people out there.

Disturbing is not the word...

HotMamma1
03-17-2010, 11:05 AM
I agree with curlywurly. The thing that scares me the most is leaving my kids without a mother. How selfish is she??

How can she actually physically LIVE like that?? She must be in pain on a daily basis!

Gourmet Bean
03-17-2010, 11:42 AM
I saw this craziness a couple days ago (read the article someone posted). Absolutely insane!!!

KyAngel1975
03-17-2010, 11:48 AM
Just brings me back to my favorite saying, "One's stupidity will take care of itself".

Tomato
03-17-2010, 12:02 PM
There is already another thread on this (with some articles and pictures) in the Weight Loss News and Current Events forum, which was started a few days ago.
Here is the link (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/weight-loss-news-current-events/196669-working-towards-1-000-lbs-2.html#post3204399) to that thread.

Firecracker777
03-17-2010, 12:03 PM
This is SO terrible!

ANOther
03-17-2010, 01:48 PM
Yeah, and when Cleopatra, Queen of De-nial, reaches her goal of 1,000 lb what does she have to look forward to? Whenever you see some news story of somebody whose weight is in 4 digits, inevitably they're literally unable to get out of bed (think of the bedsores!), they're a prisoner in their bedroom and if/when it's necessary to take them someplace (like the hospital, or the mortuary) a wall has to be torn out! What kind of life is that?? Wake up lady, and get help while you can stlll move and can still take care of yourself!

RedRock
03-17-2010, 05:34 PM
My mother showed me this yesterday, I really don't know what to say, I mean if she wants to do it, then by all means.

kaplods
03-17-2010, 06:24 PM
Any fetish lifestyle can be very seductive. It creates and reinforces the message that "being a freak is ok, if somebody loves your freakiness."

This lady's husband is not just a "fat admirer," or even a man with a fat fetish - he's a feeder.

The feeder fetish is not uncommon. The fantasy element is the feeding and watching their mate eat and gain weight. If you think that's a dark fetish, it gets worse. Very often, the "feeder" will abandon the partner once the fantasy (for the feeder) target weight is reached, or when the partner is unable to gain any more weight. Or he (usually a he) will abandon the partner when the partner becomes immobile and needs a constant caretaker, moving on to a new relationship to start the cycle over again.

It's very sad, because right now this woman is getting a lot of attention from her partner and her "fans," but will her partner stay with her, if she becomes entirely immobile? If she doesn't continue to feed into his fantasy (no pun intended), the answer is very possibly no. She'd lose her daughter, either to the foster care system, or worse to the father, who would start the feeding cycle over again with a new woman, giving his daughter a very warped perception of body image, love, sex, and food.

It's very sad, especially as this woman is unlikely to see herself as a victim of her partner, her blog fans, and her own twisted logic - until it's too late.

zamzam
03-19-2010, 03:08 PM
She is mentally sick period!! No way this woma is in her right mind. 1000? Insanity at its worst! WTF!?

helwa588
03-20-2010, 05:30 AM
I feel sorry for her daughter. Generally when people with weight problems have kids they strive to lose weight so they can be around for their kids. This woman acts like she wants a death wish. How will she take her daughter out to play at 1,000 size. How will she be around to see her daughter grow?

What selfish woman. She obviously has some mental issue. No one with an ounce of sanity would want to be 1,000lbs.

alicat17
03-20-2010, 02:31 PM
This is her way of committing suicide, I believe. A really slow, agonizing way of killing yourself. It makes me glad my priorities are where they are. And I bet her daughter will end up with some sort of eating disorder. What a shame.

Rashomon
03-21-2010, 05:50 PM
This could be some twisted way to ensure that somebody sticks around. Her daughter is what, five? As long as the feeder/father is around, CPS doesn't have grounds to take her away and if he doesn't abandon them before she's old enough to become her mother's primary caretaker, then that's plenty of time to foster a sense of obligation and guilt into the girl. And if he does leave, but the girl is a teenager, then CPS may not necessarily take her away because she's self-sufficient enough to do homemaker tasks and the father is legally bound to provide child support and Mom may receive disability.

That poor kid is screwed from having any sort of life unless CPS intervenes or Mom either gets beat in the head by a clue-by-four or croaks.

Nada
03-22-2010, 01:03 PM
Rashomon, twisted is what it is and you may have pieced together her (sick) motivation.

SickCycleCarousel
03-23-2010, 03:12 PM
Any fetish lifestyle can be very seductive. It creates and reinforces the message that "being a freak is ok, if somebody loves your freakiness."

This lady's husband is not just a "fat admirer," or even a man with a fat fetish - he's a feeder.

The feeder fetish is not uncommon. The fantasy element is the feeding and watching their mate eat and gain weight. If you think that's a dark fetish, it gets worse. Very often, the "feeder" will abandon the partner once the fantasy (for the feeder) target weight is reached, or when the partner is unable to gain any more weight. Or he (usually a he) will abandon the partner when the partner becomes immobile and needs a constant caretaker, moving on to a new relationship to start the cycle over again.

It's very sad, because right now this woman is getting a lot of attention from her partner and her "fans," but will her partner stay with her, if she becomes entirely immobile? If she doesn't continue to feed into his fantasy (no pun intended), the answer is very possibly no. She'd lose her daughter, either to the foster care system, or worse to the father, who would start the feeding cycle over again with a new woman, giving his daughter a very warped perception of body image, love, sex, and food.

It's very sad, especially as this woman is unlikely to see herself as a victim of her partner, her blog fans, and her own twisted logic - until it's too late.

Very well said, and I couldn't agree more. Perhaps this isn't exactly what is going on with this couple but you have to wonder what is mentally going on with someone that this seems like a good idea. My initial thought is that this woman has spent a lot of her life feeling unappreciated. She probably has a low self-esteem and a somewhat flimsy grip on the reality of obesity (medical complications). For the first time she is getting attention, praise, and respect for doing something because it is extreme.

People do a lot of extreme things for the shock factor and attention it garners. Think extreme dare devils, people who climb Everest or participate in extreme sports. It's all about pushing the limits of the human body. This really isn't any different, except in our society obesity has a very negative image associated with it (and for good reason in most cases--it's unhealthy).

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to this woman. (Ah.. and now I am giving her attention, feeding into the problem)

No day but today,
Dana

AnnieDrews
03-24-2010, 04:35 PM
This whole situation is disgustingly GROSS.

She's overweight. If that was the jest of it, I would feel for her and wish her the best in finding a way to lose weight and help herself like so many of us here are doing.

She's doing the exact opposite. Feeding the internet fetish community, killing herself, ruining her daughter's life in the process, costing someone (taxpayers or her insurance company, I don't know which) more and more money to take care of her selfish a**. It's GROSS.

To me, this says something very disturbing about our society.

So gross.