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Eliana
02-03-2010, 09:06 AM
I'm sorry I've been so needy lately, and it's up one day and down the next. This is where the last time I gave up. Thankfully, this time my goal is one year, not X pounds.

I'm encouraging myself with a bit of logic and I would like to know if my logic is good or faulty. I think I want to know. :D Bah! I don't know if I want an answer to this or not, but here it is anyway.

Here's my battle:

I added exercise a few weeks ago. I gained, or maintained really, the expected 2 lbs or so. I knew it was water retention, blah, blah, but it doesn't matter. It's still hard! Being my typical self, I increased the exercise. The scale is of course not loving that.

Yesterday I had an amazing workout and did HIIT (high intensity interval training). It's supposed to burn some amazing calories for up to 48 hours.

Yesterday morning: 202.4
Yesterday evening: 203.4
This morning: 203.2

So I'm wondering...my legs hurt this morning, which surprised me because I didn't lift, I ran. But I feel like I did 100 squats. Would it be wrong of me to play a mental game with myself and tell myself I'm retaining maybe 2 lbs of water and my weight just might really be 201.2???? Or is that faulty thinking.

That kind of thinking might get me over this hump.

I just hate this!


thistoo
02-03-2010, 09:13 AM
Well, I don't know if trying to guess your 'real weight' is necessarily a healthy approach (certainly it can lead to disappointment) but it's absolutely realistic to assume you are retaining water after doing high intensity workouts you're not used to.

I know this won't make you feel any better, but I am still sitting right at 153, which is not even the lowest weight of my current plateau, so what I'm doing hasn't produced a miracle of weight loss either. However, my fitness is tremendous and I *feel* strong, which is a pretty good trade-off in my book.

diyana
02-03-2010, 09:20 AM
Hi Eliana -

I formally weigh in at Weight Watchers once a week, at the same time, wearing roughly the same clothes. When I weigh in on other days, I find, as you are finding that weight can fluctuate as much as 2 to 3 pounds throughout the day. After discussing this with my WW leader AND my personal trainer, I now chalk that up to water retention, including fluids that my muscles retain to heal themselves after a workout (especially weight lifting and/or intense cardio). I also chalk it up to bladder and bowel movements...not that I have 3 lb bowel movements...ewwwww...but I figure that weighs something. Sorry if that's TMI.

I always go by the scale - I don't try and second guess how much of it is water retention, but if it fluctuates 1 or 2 lbs throughout the day or from one day to the next, I don't worry about it. I use my weekly weigh in as my "official" weigh in and figure that any water retained by my muscles will eventually be released as they heal.

The fact that your legs hurt tells you that you did, in fact, do an intense workout. I don't think your muscle fibers tear AS MUCH when you do cardio, but you are using them. And if you haven't used them that intensely or in that way before, they will be sore...whether you do cardio or lift.

I'm not a medical or exercise professional. But I have discussed this exact same topic with doctors, trainers and weight loss professionals.

I hope this helps. Good luck. And don't let a small gain get you down. Just keep doing what you're doing, and the scale will eventually show the results you are seeking.


Eliana
02-03-2010, 09:23 AM
Well, I don't know if trying to guess your 'real weight' is necessarily a healthy approach (certainly it can lead to disappointment) but it's absolutely realistic to assume you are retaining water after doing high intensity workouts you're not used to.

I know this won't make you feel any better, but I am still sitting right at 153, which is not even the lowest weight of my current plateau, so what I'm doing hasn't produced a miracle of weight loss either. However, my fitness is tremendous and I *feel* strong, which is a pretty good trade-off in my book.

Yes, yesterday I was riding high on the same thought. I felt strong and good about myself. Today I'm exhausted and skipped my workout. I took the I-need-to-rest approach, which is probably true. I've worked out every day for two weeks now and I think it's catching up with me. I also don't feel very well today, so there you go.

I'm fighting the need to do more. I see a higher number, so I need more exercise or fewer calories. And while that makes sense, I know it's actually the opposite of what I need to do.

VickieLou
02-03-2010, 09:23 AM
Read Under Weight Loss Support there is a thread about scale and water weight. It's in the top half of the forum. Hope that helps. You are doing Great. Sounds like a Great Workout.

Sandi
02-03-2010, 09:24 AM
I think sometimes we get way too caught up in the numbers. You are trying to make a lifestyle change. Eat better, move more. And you are doing those things. The weight will come off sooner or later. So maybe stay off the scale but once a day and don't sweat the numbers.

Eliana
02-03-2010, 09:26 AM
Yesterday morning: 202.4
Yesterday evening: 203.4
This morning: 203.2



I stuck that part in there because typically I lose about 2 lbs over night. So going to bed at 203.4 I expected to be 201.4 this morning. So 203.2 was disappointing.

ubergirl
02-03-2010, 09:27 AM
Eliana

I think you are psyching yourself out!

It IS hard when you don't drop, especially when you're doing everything right.

I know in my case, there have been times when I've gone ahead and changed my ticker to a lower weight the first time I saw it, and then not seen it again for a week, and that's when I've actually SEEN the weight on the scale.

THINK HOW THRILLED YOU'LL Be when you finally see the lower number!!!

It's worth waiting for. Otherwise, when you see the lower number, it won't feel like such an achievement.

FWIW, I really upped my exercise about three weeks ago, and it helped me BREAK my plateau.

Give it a chance to work. Don't get yourself psyched out.:hug::hug:

cathydoe
02-03-2010, 09:32 AM
I'm sorry I've been so needy lately, and it's up one day and down the next. This is where the last time I gave up. Thankfully, this time my goal is one year, not X pounds.

Keep being needy and posting here! You will make it through this...I just feel it. Why? Because you are doing things differently this time...like asking for help from 3FC. Keep putting one foot in front of the other. I am ROOTING for you...and doing a little jig :jig:

Lori Bell
02-03-2010, 09:37 AM
When people add exercise they typically retain more water...WATER, just the bodies natural healing process for muscle soreness blah, blah, blah. Just think of it as your NEW weight. It not like you "gained it" it's just there from natural body function. Your NEW weight for today is 203.3 (Oh, and WHY do you torture yourself and weigh at night? Once a day is really good enough...;))

As long as you exercise with high intensity, you'll always have that few extra pounds of natural fluid retention...your body NEEDS it. The scale will start to drop real fat again when your body tweaks itself.

kuchick
02-03-2010, 09:41 AM
but I have weighed myself after a bowel movement because I tend to have IBS symptoms sometimes and my weight creeps up gradually and then drops suddenly. I had lost 2 lbs. Remember, 16 oz = 1 pound. We all drink a lot of water - 16 oz of water doesn't look like much. Many of us are drinking 4 pounds of water a day, and if you're retaining water, it's easy to gain even when you're staying on plan.

Don't worry, you're doing great - besides, I've been needy lately - I need to pay all the help I've gotten forward :)

cherbear
02-03-2010, 09:44 AM
You're doing great Eliana! I know that scale is mean sometimes, but you're doing all the right things and will get where it needs to be. I'm a night and morning weigher also, so I know your pain of a low night and high morning. You know what you're doing and if you just let it ride out you'll get where you need to be. Hang tough! You'll get there!

We're at the same place with onderland, (you're a little ahead, if I can do math ;) ) but we have to remember it's just another number and we'll get there when our body's ready.

Cheri

caryesings
02-03-2010, 10:37 AM
Step away from the scale. If you are doing what you know you need to do, just don't weigh in for a month. I know many folks think I'm a bit nuts to only check my progress once a month, but it sure saves me the mental anguish I'm reading here, especially as we both sit right at that magic almost-onderland spot.

Eliana
02-03-2010, 10:42 AM
Step away from the scale. If you are doing what you know you need to do, just don't weigh in for a month. I know many folks think I'm a bit nuts to only check my progress once a month, but it sure saves me the mental anguish I'm reading here, especially as we both sit right at that magic almost-onderland spot.

Yeah. :( SO close!

matt_H
02-03-2010, 10:57 AM
Its tough sometimes to take the scale with a grain of salt (except not literally as salt causes water retention) ;)

You know that you are doing healthy things for your body and the scale weight is not accurate in terms of body fat loss. If you can, I'd avoid getting on the scale at all the day after a heavy exercise day when you know you have some muscle soreness.

diyana
02-03-2010, 11:08 AM
Eliana - I would LOVE to be as close to Onederland as you are! Think of all you've accomplished!! You've lost over 32 lbs! That's awesome! YGG! You are doing all the right things. I think you should take a rest day from exercise every now and then. I usually take a rest day once a week or when my body says I need to. You're doing FABULOUS!! I'm inspired by your success and dedication!!

Eliana
02-03-2010, 11:41 AM
I'm inspired by your success and dedication!!

Gosh thanks. :^: Reason enough to power on. ;)

giselley
02-03-2010, 11:44 AM
Please don't get obsessive about weighing yourself. Your new and healthy diet and lifestyle should not lead you to obsessive behavior. It could undermine your moral and eventually lead you to quit. I'll tell you, I don't know the statistics, but the majority of the people who start on a health/diet/exersise routeen for a new years resolution do not usually make it until Spring. It's better to try to be "natural" about it and not expect magic or quick action. I honestly would not weigh myself more than once a month. I would set up goal objects like a pair of jeans one size smaller, or a nice dress in the size you want to be eventually. I would also conjecture that water weight gain can possibly account for a small amount of weight gain or loss depending on how much you drink, TOM and other
considerations.

Perhaps when a person exersises heavily they literally micro-tear muscles (pain and heat) and one of the first steps in healing is WATER RETENTION-- which we normally would call swelling. The body does this in order to move various chemicles and cells where needed, In other words you might have some muscle building going on. Every exersise book or article I have ever read has said to rest for a day between heavy exersise. That is why you are supposed to design your routeen to do upper/lower or weight/cardio every other day. At the least you have to exersise only every other day. The human body was not designed for intense exersise each and every day. Please check this idea out and perhaps look at designing a program where you have plenty of rest periods in-between your activity.

rachael
02-03-2010, 11:49 AM
I think it would be hard to go from being a daily weigher to a monthly weigher. If you're having trouble with daily weighing, though, which it sounds like you are, I would go to weekly weighing and not work out the day before. That will minimize post-workout bloat and help you not focus on the minute fluctuations.

Also, what kind of scale do you use? I know for me, a minor move of where the scale is on the floor can change my weight. Do you have access to a balance scale at the gym or something? I would try and use that instead of a floor scale.

Kayhm0711
02-03-2010, 11:52 AM
Eliana- I am just like you, I weigh myself in the morning and at night. Which I know I shouldn't but it's a really bad habit, I just haven't found away to break it yet.

I had my first workout with my personal trainer on Monday and the next morning I went from 239.00 to 237.00. I was so happy. I went back to the gym yesterday and worked out on my own, sweated my butt off and thought I did great and got up this morning and it said 238.00. I was like WHATTTTT I just worked out heavy duty and ate good and I gained a lb. Like everyone else said I guess it's just retention from not being use to working out. Believe me girl I am new at the high intensity work outs too. I think it's just going to take time for our bodies to realize what's going on.

And my personal trainer also told me muscle weighs more than fat, so sometimes your weight might go up, but your actualy body fat has gone down. The more muscle the better, the more muscle you have the more calories you burn throughout the day.

Keep with it girl, you're doing great, don't give up, you're so close to onderland.

PeanutsMom704
02-03-2010, 12:28 PM
I think the right times and amounts to weigh are where it doesn't make you crazy. I would humbly suggest that weighing multiple times a day is making you crazy, and that you need to reconsider what might work better. Probably not once a month, maybe not even once a week, but perhaps once a day? Maybe....

I would also try to make sure you are tracking other things (which I know you are!). How about setting up a spreadsheet where you can track clothing sizes, measurements, staying 100% on plan for eating and whatever other variables you can think of. Scale weight is just one piece of the whole, so don't give it more focus or power than it deserves.

marigrace
02-03-2010, 04:40 PM
Eliana, Do you remember a post from a few weeks back...when you became convinced to start exercising based on the comments of two people who wore some pretty small sizes even though their weight was not so low...if I remember correctly, those were the comments that really motivated you to go ahead with it. If the scale is making you unhappy now, give it up for a while...you are now where you wanted to be...so don't lose faith.

thistoo
02-03-2010, 07:01 PM
I'm fighting the need to do more. I see a higher number, so I need more exercise or fewer calories. And while that makes sense, I know it's actually the opposite of what I need to do.

I had to shut my scale up in the closet this morning after I realized it was making me mental. No weigh-in for me until Monday, no exceptions! If I find myself too tempted to break my promise I will take it to my sister's house and leave it there, for real. The scale obsession is just distracting. I hope you can find a way to break it too.