100 lb. Club - why do people look so different at their weights?




ubergirl
01-23-2010, 11:41 PM
This is probably a super dumb question, but one I've been pondering nonetheless.

If two women are both the same height and same weight, will they wear the same size clothes and look about the same?

If two people are the same height and weight, could one look fat and the other look slim?

I guess what I'm getting at is this. Let's say I'm 5'8" and weigh 150 and my friend is the same height and weight. Can I look normal and she look like she needs to lose 30 lbs?

Am wondering because people of the same height often have different goal weights and I'm wondering if some people are just designed to weigh more, or whether some people just want to end up on the thinner end of normal.

Thoughts?


Michelle98272
01-23-2010, 11:56 PM
I used to have my goal weight set at 145. I recently gained 30lbs to an all time high of 270 and was overwhelmed at the thought of losing 125lbs. Overwhelmed for me usually = quit, so adjusted my goal to something that felt more realistic.

My lowest adult weight that I maintained for any length of time was 175lbs. I think once I get to this weight, I might re-evaluate and go lower.

I think weight is such an individual thing. I work with a girl who is my same height and weighs 130 lbs. To me she looks really skinny. I don't think I'd like to be that skinny (okay, maybe I'd try it for a day or two!). 270 is definitely too big. 175 sounds just right to me. I'd be in regular sizes, be in the overweight category for BMI and would be most like a heck of a lot more healthy.

SNMomof1
01-24-2010, 12:02 AM
It depends on body type and whether or not you exercise.

In a nut shell, yes it's possible for 2 people to be the same height/weight and one look like they need to loose weight. One person may have more muscle than the other, so the one with more fat will look... well, fat. That's why it's so important for us to exercise during our weight loss journey.

Also, fat stores in different places. Someone with a big ole booty or gigantic tatas may have a higher goal weight to accomidate. Or they could just have one idea of what they want to be. Not everyone wants to be slim - a lot of women like the idea of, and prefer, having a little meat on their bones. ;)


seidlet
01-24-2010, 12:03 AM
people can totally be the same height & weight and look way, way different. frame size & weight distribution are definitely factors - i always look larger than my actual weight because i have a very small frame, i'm not naturally curvy at ALL, and i put on weight all in my mid-section. when i was thinner, i knew a few people who were the same height as me and weighed as much as thirty pounds MORE and still looked smaller than i did!

Gracie789
01-24-2010, 12:06 AM
People have different body types, some are more muscular or more developed than others, weight distribution could be totally different, and length of arms/legs/torso can vary as well. When it comes to weight there's no single number that's the right weight for everyone, it really just depends on each individual person.

CLCSC145
01-24-2010, 01:06 AM
I think the body type deal is the answer, but it is interesting, isn't it? For example, I think that I look much larger than women of similar heights who are hippier and bustier than I am, but with a smaller waist. For some reason, the apple shape like I have looks fatter to me than an hourglass shape. I feel like I see 180 or 170 as a goal weight for women my height around 3FC and I know that when I used to be 170/180 I still was fat, but yet I see pictures of women at that height/weight and they look great. I don't have a small frame, though, so who the heck knows. :dizzy:

ToriLeigh
01-24-2010, 02:07 AM
I have a friend who is the same height as me and I weigh more than she does, yet I don't look as heavy. It's about fat distribution. I'm lucky in that mine is pretty evenly distributed. I hate my big fat thighs, but am grateful that all my weight hasn't settled in my midsection. But it can definitely make a difference in appearance.

Eliana
01-24-2010, 09:03 AM
As far as picking a goal, I think it's very random. I picked my goal simply because it's 10 pounds within a healthy weight according to the BMI. Some women pick a goal because it's where they were pre-baby, or on their wedding day or in high school. Some pick it because it's a nice even number to lose, like 100 for me. I really think it's just random.

caryesings
01-24-2010, 09:48 AM
I have "hourglass-extreme" figure. Cup size GG so there is a lot of weight up top. While my BMI is still obese, my waist qualifies me for "normal" woman sizing. Regardless of my weight, the sizes in my closet range widely.

PeanutsMom704
01-24-2010, 10:12 AM
I think body shape is a major factor in this. I'm a sort of apple/inverted triangle and I carry the majority of my excess weight from the belly/waist and up, so I've also got heavy shoulders and even my face is a quite full. I see photos on here of women who weigh more than me, sometimes significantly more, and their faces are much thinner than mine. When I was (relatively) thinner, I still didn't have much of a defined waistline. Big boobs, but not much booty.

Not that I know from personal experience, but I suspect that once I can get my midsection to be more straight up and down vs. rounder/apple, I may well look pretty slim for my actual weight. But I do think one of the pitfalls of this shape is that it's hard to hide any extra weight. Pear shapes can often wear cute tank tops and flowy skirts or strappy sundresses which keep the focus on their attractive and smaller upper body and don't emphasize a bigger lower body. Apples and women with extra weight in the upper body just tend to look a bit more shapeless, and IMO, larger. But I do think at some point, I'm going to totally rock some skinny jeans and a snug sweater or T shirt!

nelie
01-24-2010, 10:27 AM
There are many factors but also the amount of muscle can factor in on why someone would weigh more but be smaller than another person. We see it all the time here at 3FC where someone will say they wear certain sizes while another person who weighs more will wear the same exact sizing.

It is one reason that I highly advocate that women lift weights as they lose weight :) You lose muscle when you lose weight but you can minimize muscle loss by lifting weights.

Violet73
01-24-2010, 11:08 AM
I have two sisters. I'm the youngest. My oldest sister and I have similar body types....we carry most of our weight in our hips, bottom, and thighs. My middle sister carries more around her waist. My middle sister can weigh more than me but her jean size is smaller! Years ago we were both size 12 and I weighed 20 pounds less than her...it takes that much work on me for the pounds just to have smaller jeans and shorts! She has the added pain of finding shirts not to cling to her mid-section while I have the added pain of trying to find jeans not too tight for my butt! :D

ubergirl
01-24-2010, 11:31 AM
Yeah, it makes sense...

I remember back when I was in college, many moons ago, my sports team had to weigh in and post our weights on a chart.

At my height, 5'8" there were four or five girls, and the weight range was 120-165. I was on the high end with a couple of other girls...

BUT, I always "thought" I would look best if I weighed 120, like the other girl, who did not look skinny, just lean....myself, the lowest weight I've ever maintained is 145-150 and I looked totally normal at that weight, but I used to think I should be thinner.

Then later, I thought that was ridiculous and I couldn't imagine weighing less than 145-150. But I could not fit into a size 12 unless I weighed 150 or below, so before I got obese, when my BMI was normal, I always wore a 14.

TraceyElaine
01-24-2010, 11:52 AM
It depends on body type and whether or not you exercise.

In a nut shell, yes it's possible for 2 people to be the same height/weight and one look like they need to lose weight. One person may have more muscle than the other, so the one with more fat will look... well, fat. That's why it's so important for us to exercise during our weight loss journey.

Also, fat stores in different places. Someone with a big ole booty or gigantic tatas may have a higher goal weight to accomidate. Or they could just have one idea of what they want to be. Not everyone wants to be slim - a lot of women like the idea of, and prefer, having a little meat on their bones. ;)

Totaly agree. The other thing i noticed is I have looked different at the same weight at different points in my life. If i am on my way up the scale @ say 230 I look fatter than I did comming down the scale to 230. Likely because of the difference in muscle weight.

ubergirl
01-24-2010, 12:46 PM
Well, one thing I've noticed is that I look "thinner" at higher weights now because there are a lot more other obese people around now than twenty years ago, and also, more middle-aged ladies are overweight-- so my extra fifty pounds is less noticeable than my former extra fifteen or twenty.

thistoo
01-24-2010, 12:56 PM
Totaly agree. The other thing i noticed is I have looked different at the same weight at different points in my life. If i am on my way up the scale @ say 230 I look fatter than I did comming down the scale to 230. Likely because of the difference in muscle weight.

So true. I currently weigh about what I did in high school, and back then I was wearing a size 14 pant. Granted, that was 20 years ago and size 14s were smaller than they are now, but I doubt they were comparable to the size 10s I wear now. Muscle tone makes all the difference.

DCHound
01-24-2010, 12:59 PM
Ubergirl you and I are the same height and pretty close in weight. I don't know your size/measurements but I took mine last night. 43-34-44, I wear 14 jeans and can squeeze into stretchy 12s, solid 12/14 top. For baggy stuff I am about a medium and for tighter stuff I am a large. My favorite jammies are a L but they are getting very droopy. I wear a size 12/13 shoe (although for sandals I now need an 11, surreal) and men's XL gloves. I am very muscular, I even have a six-pack under the flab. My goal weight is @ 170 but honestly if I can lose 2 more inches off my waist I'll be pretty much done, regardless of what the scale says. A 32" waist is perfectly normal and healthy. And friends have started telling me to stop losing, I'm a normal, average size now. But I'm just going to keep eating my chicken and lettuce and see how it shakes out.

traci in training
01-24-2010, 01:19 PM
I set my goal weight at 145 because that's the top of "normal" on the BMI. I can't actually imagine weighing 145. I think I weighed 160 or so when I graduated high school, 171 for years and years before I had kids - that's what I weighed when I got married and I thought I looked pretty good. But I'd really like to try normal once.

People are always surprised when I tell them what I weigh and I think that's because I carry weight in my butt and legs. The waist on my pants always has to be taken in - I'm a curvy girl. I have a friend who weighs about ten pounds less than I do but she wears 2x shirts and 22 pants. I wear 18 pants and large shirts. We must be put together differently, huh?

dragonwoman64
01-24-2010, 02:36 PM
yeah, I get fascinated reading the "what size do you wear" threads. I remember a website that had a pictures of men and women at a wide range of heights and weights. I took a look for the link to give, but couldn't find it. maybe someone else remembers.

muscle has made a big difference for me in shape, I'm not even super muscular (at all), just not the totally unmuscular woman I was at this same weight.

traci in training
01-24-2010, 02:48 PM
One more thought - lots of people don't REALLY tell you what they weigh. They shave a few pounds off. Or forty. We have to remember we're honest about our weight here but in the real world people wear plus size clothing but their driver's license still says they weigh 132. Know what I mean?

Fressca
01-24-2010, 02:54 PM
BUT, I always "thought" I would look best if I weighed 120, like the other girl, who did not look skinny, just lean....myself, the lowest weight I've ever maintained is 145-150 and I looked totally normal at that weight, but I used to think I should be thinner.


This is me to a T. Weighed 140 most of my adult life - a perfectly fine weight - but struggled to get it lower because as a teen I was super skinny, and thought I should still be that way. My current goal is 150; realistic, I think, at my age (51).

I carry most of my weight in my midsection, and agree with those who say it's the most "fattening" place to have your extra lbs. I spend a lot of time shopping for things that will hide that belly, it's very frustrating :(:(

Currently, I'm a 12 on the bottom (jeans, etc) but all my tops have to be XL.

ETA: Compare that to DCHound, who's 209 and wears about the same size!

ubergirl
01-24-2010, 03:00 PM
Ubergirl you and I are the same height and pretty close in weight. I don't know your size/measurements but I took mine last night. 43-34-44, I wear 14 jeans and can squeeze into stretchy 12s, solid 12/14 top. For baggy stuff I am about a medium and for tighter stuff I am a large. My favorite jammies are a L but they are getting very droopy. I wear a size 12/13 shoe (although for sandals I now need an 11, surreal) and men's XL gloves. I am very muscular, I even have a six-pack under the flab. My goal weight is @ 170 but honestly if I can lose 2 more inches off my waist I'll be pretty much done, regardless of what the scale says. A 32" waist is perfectly normal and healthy. And friends have started telling me to stop losing, I'm a normal, average size now. But I'm just going to keep eating my chicken and lettuce and see how it shakes out.

DC, as usual, you are my weight loss idol!!!:carrot:

And see, it boggles my mind that your measurements are SO TINY! My current measurements are 46-39-47. I'm ALL MIDSECTION. My arms aren't bad, my legs are muscular and slim.

You sound like you're now about the size I was when I weighed about 175-- and I was very muscley back then, so the difference is probably those huge hands and feet of yours...

And, I guess that pretty much answers my question-- because it's pretty clear that if we were standing right next to each other you would look alot thinner than me-- your measurements are 3-5" smaller than mine!

Now, if I can just figure out how to grow my feet, I should be all set. :D

Shmead
01-24-2010, 03:01 PM
One more thought - lots of people don't REALLY tell you what they weigh. They shave a few pounds off. Or forty. We have to remember we're honest about our weight here but in the real world people wear plus size clothing but their driver's license still says they weigh 132. Know what I mean?

This is exactly what I was thinking. YES, different people carry weight differently, but self-reporting is suspect at best. It's not even that people deliberately lie, it's that they delude themselves--if their scale and their doctor's scale say different things, they believe the lower one. If they haven't weighed in a while and know they've put on a bit of weight, they estimate 5 lbs when it's 15. If they know they've put on 10 lbs this year but there is a reason for that (injury, depression, whatever), they think of it as temporary and not "real", so they don't count it.

It's also common (IME) for people, especially men, to go through life with their height an inch or two off. One time someone mismeasures a twenty year old boy as 6'1" and he uses that for the rest of his life and assumes all the other measurements of 5'11" involve some sort of error. Given possible truths, people tend to remember the one they like the best.

I am always highly suspicious of those "send in your photo" height and weight sites because of this. I never suspect any particular individual, because there are always weird exceptions, but I don't rely too much on the data, either.

ubergirl
01-24-2010, 03:16 PM
This is exactly what I was thinking. YES, different people carry weight differently, but self-reporting is suspect at best. It's not even that people deliberately lie, it's that they delude themselves--if their scale and their doctor's scale say different things, they believe the lower one. If they haven't weighed in a while and know they've put on a bit of weight, they estimate 5 lbs when it's 15. If they know they've put on 10 lbs this year but there is a reason for that (injury, depression, whatever), they think of it as temporary and not "real", so they don't count it.

It's also common (IME) for people, especially men, to go through life with their height an inch or two off. One time someone mismeasures a twenty year old boy as 6'1" and he uses that for the rest of his life and assumes all the other measurements of 5'11" involve some sort of error. Given possible truths, people tend to remember the one they like the best.

I am always highly suspicious of those "send in your photo" height and weight sites because of this. I never suspect any particular individual, because there are always weird exceptions, but I don't rely too much on the data, either.

That's a good point-- especially about the height (and in fact, technically I'm 5'7 and 3/4 LOL)

But I'm a health care provider and I take care of mostly women, so I know how much EVERYBODY weighs and how they look in their birthday suits...

But, then again, I don't apply my scientific reasoning-- this is my paranoid fat girl reasoning-- and paranoid fat girl reasoning tells me that I look ENORMOUS no matter what my weight.

dragonwoman64
01-24-2010, 03:40 PM
I am always highly suspicious of those "send in your photo" height and weight sites because of this. I never suspect any particular individual, because there are always weird exceptions, but I don't rely too much on the data, either.

ah, I'm sure you're right, too funny. I had a gf years back, petite and slim (in my book), if ever the mention of height weight charts came up, she'd get livid. I'd say, well, you know, they're good as a general tool, but not to be taken as the gospel. She'd never want to talk about it, so to this day, I'm not sure if she was upset because she thought the charts erred on the side of being too generous or too strict (instinct tells me too generous; she thought her posterior was way too large).

ubergirl
01-24-2010, 04:31 PM
ah, I'm sure you're right, too funny. I had a gf years back, petite and slim (in my book), if ever the mention of height weight charts came up, she'd get livid. I'd say, well, you know, they're good as a general tool, but not to be taken as the gospel. She'd never want to talk about it, so to this day, I'm not sure if she was upset because she thought the charts erred on the side of being too generous or too strict (instinct tells me too generous; she thought her posterior was way too large).

LOL!

Sounds like my mom. I'll never forget the day she told me, in a hushed whisper, that my sister-in-law, who is 5'9very slim, and drop-dead gorgeous, weighed 150 pounds .... she couldn't imagine how my sister-in-law, who was obviously gorgeous and slender could weigh in at a weight that was so fantastically high... MOM. Gotta love her.

Shmead
01-24-2010, 04:41 PM
The other big difference is in how people wear their clothes--to me, a t-shirt "fits" when it doesn't touch skin at all beneath my boobs, because I am paranoid. For others, a t-shirt fits if they can get it on, even if you can see the outline of their navel through it, and some people find a reasonable compromise. So two people with the exact same body size/shape might have a 2-size difference in what they report they wear.

DCHound
01-24-2010, 07:13 PM
It ain't all feet babe. I am huge all over. I gain and lose in the middle first, but my arm measurement straight out is 6'1"--I had a lot of ear infections as a child and I suspect they stunted my growth. I ought to be 6'1". I have a 31" inseam. My legs are fat all the way up and down--shapely, but very large, arms too. My shoulders are not disproportionate but they are strong and wide. I can lift to my shoulder and carry 77 lb sacks of dogfood up and down flights of stairs--it takes effort, but I can do it. I'm built weird!! :D

nelie
01-24-2010, 07:26 PM
Ubergirl you and I are the same height and pretty close in weight. I don't know your size/measurements but I took mine last night. 43-34-44, I wear 14 jeans and can squeeze into stretchy 12s, solid 12/14 top. For baggy stuff I am about a medium and for tighter stuff I am a large. My favorite jammies are a L but they are getting very droopy. I wear a size 12/13 shoe (although for sandals I now need an 11, surreal) and men's XL gloves. I am very muscular, I even have a six-pack under the flab. My goal weight is @ 170 but honestly if I can lose 2 more inches off my waist I'll be pretty much done, regardless of what the scale says. A 32" waist is perfectly normal and healthy. And friends have started telling me to stop losing, I'm a normal, average size now. But I'm just going to keep eating my chicken and lettuce and see how it shakes out.

I am similar sizing as you and about the same weight. Only issue is my feet and hands have shrunk. I used to wear a size 11 shoe and larger hands. Now I wear a size 9.5 (although wide) and I wear size mediumish gloves as opposed to large/extra large I used to wear.

It does amaze me to wear size 14 clothes and still be over 200 lbs. I'd like to get to about 180 myself, maybe 160.