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mom4life
01-21-2010, 06:51 PM
Why is it so hard to find a good healthy dog from a shelter? We adopted a dog back in Aug 09, we had to take it back because he wouldn't eat (we had him for a week). They told me he probably had something serious going on. Since then we've been trying out dogs since we can't get our money back. We are now at our 5th one. We love her and have had her for almost 2 weeks. She was sort of bony when we got her but I figured she would fatten up after a while since we feed our dogs high protein dog food. Our other dog (pure bread Lab) is very healthy.
Well She hasn't had much energy since we got her. A week ago she had diarrhea, I just assumed she wasn't used to the food and would eventually get used to it. Well this morning I was observing that she still hadn't gained weight and actually looked bonier then when we first got her. I continued observing her walking to the side of the house where I saw her about to poo. Well what came out of her was browning water.
I've been depressed today because I know we'll have to take her back to the shelter. I would figure that shelters would do health screens on their animals before putting them up for adoption.
The requirement at this shelter is that the money you pay to adopt, automatically goes to getting a free Vet check and neutering or spaying. We usually wait 2 weeks because of the past dogs we've gotten there that ended up showing signs within that time. If we take them to the Vet before then, then we are stuck with any Vet bills the pet has which can be costly.
In So Cal, there were Shelters that wouldn't adopt out a pet unless they knew it was pretty much healthy or they would tell you what it had (if you chose to adopt it), and would cover any costs until the the pet was well.


vixxi
01-21-2010, 07:31 PM
Maybe you should take her to the Vet and get blood work done. I understand the Vet bills can be expensive (having two dogs and a cat of my own) but if something is wrong with the pup, you should take her in. Maybe if the pet's you've been adopting from this shelter aren't healthy, you shouldn't adopt anymore from there. I think when you adopt/buy/take in an animal, your making a promise and commitment to take care of them for the rest of their lives.

thinnerbyjuly
01-21-2010, 07:49 PM
I have 5 shelter pets (3 dogs~ 2 cats) and have never had a sick one yet thankfully. 1 cat did have fleas though. Two were bones sticking out skinny from being strays so long I did have a friend though that adopted a pup with parvo though

I'd try a different shelter. I would also get that free health check right away. I've taken every pet straight from the shelter to the vet because if they are ill i want to know before I get attached. I know vet bill bite btw. I just had an emergency very $$$ visit today for my 10 year old pound puppy :)


Sskar
01-21-2010, 07:49 PM
All of our current 4 critters (2 dogs, 2 cats) came from shelters. Three of them had massive, unbelievably foul smelling diarrhea within 2 days of coming home. (We got them at different shelters at different times.) They all had the same intestinal bug that was easily taken care of with meds. Yes, they had been treated for worms, but this kind of thing still shows up. A simple stool sample should rapidly identify what the organism is (assuming it is an infection) and perhaps a change in diet.

Rescue pups are the best. They seem to know that they have been "saved", and our lives have been so greatly enriched by their presence.

Guess I'm trying to encourage you to hang in there and get her checked out because your lab might get infected too.

2annabelle
01-21-2010, 07:55 PM
Get the shelter dog to the vets - you don't want any other animals that you have infected with whatever this dog might have...one vet treatment is more cost effective than two!

ajowens
01-21-2010, 07:59 PM
They won't do the medical care for you? I don't understand why they take them back... why don't they just get them healthy with you? I guess I don't understand maybe? This sounds abusive to me. Most kenneled dogs have coccidia or some sort of virus/bacteria but it is treatable. I would resport this shelter to the spca or what ever is equivalent!

nelie
01-21-2010, 09:03 PM
We have 4 shelter animals (2 dogs, 2 cats) and they are all healthy. It was a requirement with all the animals we adopted to get them to the vet within a week of adopting and if any issues were found out that it was possible to have qualify for a 'health grant'.

Do you have rescues in your area versus a shelter? Some shelters are definitely better than others.

Also, sometimes dogs get diarrhea because their food was changed so I'm not sure if that was the case with the dog you adopted.

shcirerf
01-21-2010, 11:27 PM
Are you adopting from a reputable shelter?

Some shelters have good intentions, but not good anything else.

Sounds like a bad case of coccidia, an intestinal virus, or loaded with worms.

Add the stress of whatever happened to the dog before it came to the shelter and then when you take it home. A lot to deal with.

I work for a veterinarian, I would start with collecting a stool sample and taking it in and having your vet run a fecal. This will tell them a lot about what is up with the dog. Collect some poo in a baggie and take it to your vet. Let them run the fecal and call you back with the findings. This will give you a starting place.

It may be a simple matter of some antibiotics, and a few days of a special diet.

I do some foster work, with strays we get, you can not believe the weird stuff I've run into.:?:

My current foster, a Pembroke Welsh Corgi, had more issues than Playboy when I brought him home. After 2 months, he's made leaps and bounds! His problems were all behavioral. He was a psycho dog from ****.

Scared of everything, hadn't seen another dog in 4 years, food bowl possessive, chew bone possessive, angry, no manners. We have 3 dogs of our own. He is finally getting it. He really is a sweetie, but it has taken a TON of patience and calm, assertive correction to get him where he is now. I am at a point, where I am confident that we can now look for a home for him. A month ago, I would not have let him go, he was not ready.

Shelter dogs take patience, and it may cost some money, but in the end they can be worth it! You have to remember, there is most likely no history on the animal and it's previous treatment, and health problems can crop up.

zoritsa
01-22-2010, 12:03 AM
Everyone else has given some great advice,so I'll just add my experience.

We adopted Nikki last year from a shelter,and while she vet checked through them,they expected me to take her to my own vet for a check up within a week of bringing her home.Luckily she was healthy,and aside from the expected problems of changing her food,she was in good health.She was skinny when we got her and even almost a year later,could still use a few more lbs...but she has gained a bit.

Like others,I would take the pup in to your vet with a stool sample and hopefully a simple test can find the problem...especially seeing that it's been more then one dog you've brought home.

I can't imagine not having Nikki now.It feels like she's been here much longer then 10 months,and I love that she has made herself so at home with us.

mom4life
01-22-2010, 09:41 AM
Thank you, I will try to collect a sample. I'm hoping its nothing. I know Google-doctoring isn't always accurate but from what I read yesterday, they said it could be a very serious condition.
She did have diarrhea a week after we got her but that was probably due to the food. The water poo is what concerned me.
I so want to keep her. We've already had a dog die from cancer a couple months back, we had him since he was a pup. I just don't want to relive that again. :(

mom4life
01-22-2010, 06:17 PM
She's pregnant, waiting on fecal results now.

nelie
01-22-2010, 06:29 PM
Oh my, you would've definitely thought they would've discovered that prior to adopting out!

And one thing I'd say is it is a tough world for animals, you can fix a dog when she is pregnant and abort the pups. I know others may disagree but there are already so many dogs out there that don't get homes, I have a tough time thinking about bringing more dogs into this world.

mom4life
01-22-2010, 08:13 PM
Problem is that we were already struggling with that choice but in this area they won't abort. don't know if it was due to how far along she is or what but that was the first thing they told me. When I informed the shelter they just told me "Okay, well when the pups are 6 weeks you can bring them here and we'll adopted them out for you and you can get her spayed 3 months after she has the pups, free of charge."
Her teets were out when we got her from the shelter. I just figured she had her pups and they decided to get rid of her. But then recently I noticed she wasn't fattening up or her hind bones were sticking out. I thought she was seriously ill because she wasn't gaining weight. Then a couple hours before I took her to the vet I told me dh "This is just a speculation but what if she's pregnant because her tummy is getting big and so are her teets?" He thought I was over doing it on my suspicions.
They think it can be any day now.
If so, they told me we had to separate our dogs (the other dog is a male) because when she does have her pups she will be very protective. Is this true? do we have to separate them? The only thought I have is to bring her in the house till she has her pups but even then, we can't have her and the pups in the house.
HELP!! I've been a mommy to a mama cat and a litter of kittens but never mama and pups. :(

nelie
01-22-2010, 08:45 PM
Why can't you have her and her pups in the house? You don't have any indoor space for your dogs?

I imagine that she is probably just too far along to abort the pups.

bargoo
01-22-2010, 08:48 PM
Yew, definitely keep the dogs apart. There is nothing more protective than a mother dog. Dont' ever allow another dog around the pups .

mom4life
01-22-2010, 09:02 PM
The only place I could imagine is in the kitchen with a gate but we don't have a laundry room or large bathroom. The only room we have that's not occupied is carpeted.
Our garage is a carport, so we can't put her and her (when they come) pups in there.
any ideas?

nelie
01-22-2010, 09:44 PM
Potty training?!

I imagine that is your concern with carpeting? My dogs are inside except for when they go to the bathroom.

mom4life
01-22-2010, 11:18 PM
She is trained but what about the pups?

nelie
01-22-2010, 11:38 PM
Well one good thing about mommas is that they train their pups if they are trained. you might need to get something like a large plastic mat or something and make sure the pups get to go out when they are old enough.

nelie
01-22-2010, 11:45 PM
I found an article and I'm sure there are a lot of them online about newborn pups:
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1659+1651&aid=916

Basically, the mother will 'take care of' their urine and poo for the first couple weeks. If you have an area that has easy access to the outside, that would be best because she will obviously need to go outside and when they are old enough, they will need to go as well.

mom4life
01-23-2010, 10:48 AM
Since both dh and I have never dealt with a pregnant dog before, dh is worried if she can get snippy or agressive with our kids if she's in the house? Mainly because he's heard that pregnant dogs can be "witchy," and will snap on get moody at a drop of a hat. Then there's the after the pups are born, will she become agressive towards us because she won't want anyone near her litter?
I've had pregnant cats who ended up being the sweetest things while pregnant and we no different after the kittens were born. Yes they were protective over their litter but it was only as being cautious that you weren't harming them but they were very protective against potential preditores, like other cats or whatever.

bargoo
01-23-2010, 04:06 PM
If you can get a whelping box you can put that in your spare, carpeted room and your carpet will stay safe.

mom4life
01-23-2010, 06:39 PM
well we figured out an area for her to sleep then birth her pups. Its my desk room. I have some worn out blankets that I'll spread in there for her.
The only thing dh is worried about is, what if she becomes agressive with the kids. We've only had her for 2 weeks and dont know her that well. What I do know is that she is sweet with the kids and us. She does get snippy with our other dog for whatever reason. He's come up to her looking normal and not trying to sniff her and she just gets in his face. The other day dh and my ds1 were in the backyard. ds1 was kneeing beside her, petting her then the Lab walked up behind ds1 and Annie's top lip started to quiver, I called her but she went again and got in his face. From that point on she didn't want him to get near dh or ds1, after a while he just went to retreat into his dog house.
Other then these small episodes they get along, if one sees a squirral they both go after it to chase is up a tree. They'll sit together and not have any worries.
dh just worries about our kids, that she will get aggressive with them. I told him that I would treat her the same way I would treat any other none pregnant dog or cat. To never trust them alone with our kids. I wouldn't want to take chances of them bugging her too much where she'll nip at them...she's never done it but I don't want it to happen. Especially after the pups come, I'm not gonna let them touch her pups unless I know she's okay with it.

Technosexual
01-27-2010, 12:19 AM
In So Cal, there were Shelters that wouldn't adopt out a pet unless they knew it was pretty much healthy or they would tell you what it had (if you chose to adopt it), and would cover any costs until the the pet was well.

Wow. I can't believe the things you've said about the shelter you're adopting from. That's insane! What I quoted above is what I thought was the standard! :?: I'd be really upset, too. REALLY upset!