Calorie Counters - Doctor wants me to up my calories
Gekster
11-12-2009, 06:54 PM
Hey all, just wanted to throw this out there and see your opinions on it. I've been losing about a pound or two a week sometimes more sometimes less, but I've been around 1300-1500 calories a day, but today the doctor said I should raise my calories to 1800 on days I do not workout and 2000 on days I do. This seems like a large jump, but also the thing is, what to eat. The calories I am at allows me to be full all day, so I don't know how to take in an additional 300 calories a day without it being junk, which I try to stay away from anyway. Thoughts, ideas? Thanks.
BellaLucia
11-12-2009, 07:46 PM
You know your body best.
CLCSC145
11-12-2009, 08:04 PM
You do know yourself best, but on the flip side, at your weight you may be able to eat more calories and still lose what you are losing (or more, oddly enough). I'd say give it a try in the spirit of experimentation. It would also give you more room to lower your calories later when the weight loss slows as your body shrinks.
Thighs Be Gone
11-12-2009, 08:25 PM
You do know yourself best, but on the flip side, at your weight you may be able to eat more calories and still lose what you are losing (or more, oddly enough). I'd say give it a try in the spirit of experimentation. It would also give you more room to lower your calories later when the weight loss slows as your body shrinks.
Well, I guess I have mixed emotions. In my opinion, if it isn't broken, don't fix it. At your current calorie intake you should be able to hit 150 without any problems. I wouldn't worry about what is going to happen wayyyyy down the line. Do what is working right now. You could always try to increase for 10 days and re-evaulate your progress then.
rockinrobin
11-12-2009, 08:45 PM
If your are satisfied and eating highly nutritious calories, I wouldn't worry all that much about raising those calories. Especially to 2000. But you can certainly experiment. See if you are pleased with the results.
As far as healthy calories. That shouldn't be a problem. An extra protein - like a chicken breast. Or some avocado and a sprinkling of walnuts in a salad. A tablespoon or two of peanut butter with an apple. Instead of egg white omlettes, have a couple of whole eggs. 1/2 cup additional of brown rice. A sweet potato with dinner. Greek yogurt instead of FF/SF yogurt. An additional yogurt/berry smoothie. There's plenty of healthy options.
If and when you do up those calories, I would be sure to journal accurately so you know what to change if need be.
HeaterAS
11-12-2009, 08:46 PM
Personally I'm losing better now that I've upped my calories.
I average 1800-1900 a day. It surprised me too!
Gekster
11-12-2009, 08:52 PM
Thanks guys! Great tips. I guess there is nothing wrong with trying it and if it doesn't work go back. If I do experiment, how long do I wait? I imagine with the change there will be immediate fluctuations, but I don't want to risk gaining back what I've lost, it was hard work to get it off! So as a general rule how long do you wait to see if the scale is moving in the right direction?
RealCdn
11-12-2009, 09:02 PM
As someone who still manages to lose weight eating ~1800-2000 calories I'd say listen to the doctor. You may find that your loss rate doesn't change. For me, when I eat at higher levels I have more energy so I move around more (which burns more calories). Years ago at lower calories (1200-1300) I ran myself into the ground (and the hospital) on those calories. There's plenty of time to drop your calories later on. (Me, I'll likely just increase my exercise level instead.)
As to the raising your calories. Adding 300 calories is easy - a little oil (or real salad dressing) and an ounce of nuts. On workout days consider adding a protein shake with a little fruit in it afterwards.
ETA - when I make changes I usually go 4 weeks before making any changes (ie. one full monthly cycle)
cassieroll
11-12-2009, 10:37 PM
You could easily eat 300 calories more a day with a few snacks of nuts, a hardboiled egg, stuff like that. Personally I'm in agreement with your doctor.
Tammy
11-12-2009, 11:14 PM
I'm in agreement with the doctor too. I had been eating about 1500 calories and losing slowly. I do aerobics and zumba 5 times a week and walk on other days. I was worn out. I can't believe how much more energy I have now that I have upped the calories. My doctor also told me to quit paying attention to the scale and pay attention to my body and clothing. I know that I have toned up with all of the classes that I'm taking, and all the clothes are fitting better.
rockinrobin
11-13-2009, 06:51 AM
Yes, I'd give it 4 weeks. Track and measure accurately and be faithful to the numbers. You're going to do just fine. :)
cassieroll
11-15-2009, 01:11 AM
I'm in agreement with the doctor too. I had been eating about 1500 calories and losing slowly. I do aerobics and zumba 5 times a week and walk on other days. I was worn out. I can't believe how much more energy I have now that I have upped the calories. My doctor also told me to quit paying attention to the scale and pay attention to my body and clothing. I know that I have toned up with all of the classes that I'm taking, and all the clothes are fitting better.Amazing what eating enough does for your energy levels! :carrot: Sometimes I forget or am having a busy day and don't eat enough.. I pay for it though! Yikes! Usually I end up ravenous about 11:00 pm and inhale a bowl of cereal. Also, no exercise because I'm tired and have no energy.
Tammy
11-15-2009, 01:23 AM
It really is amazing! I kept thinking that if I ate more that I would gain right away, but that hasn't been the case. I did tell my doctor that if I'm supposed to stop paying attention to the scales that he should have the nurse quit weighing me!
berrybell
11-22-2009, 06:14 PM
Gekster and what were his arguments in favor of upping your calorie intake? If it's about some health issues connected with you eating less then you definitely should go with it, but if it's nothing in particular and you're happy with your weightloss progress and the way you feel - i see no point in changing the routine that works
cassieroll
11-22-2009, 10:43 PM
What did you decide to do and how are you feeling?
Primm
11-23-2009, 02:18 AM
I absolutely agree with your doctor. I'm 189 lb, and losing 1/2 - 1 lb per week on 1800-2000 calories.
Well, I guess I have mixed emotions. In my opinion, if it isn't broken, don't fix it. At your current calorie intake you should be able to hit 150 without any problems. I wouldn't worry about what is going to happen wayyyyy down the line. Do what is working right now. You could always try to increase for 10 days and re-evaulate your progress then.
Gekster and what were his arguments in favor of upping your calorie intake? If it's about some health issues connected with you eating less then you definitely should go with it, but if it's nothing in particular and you're happy with your weightloss progress and the way you feel - i see no point in changing the routine that works
See, I guess I AM looking at the "wayyyyy down the line" picture. I'm thinking more about maintenance than losing, and I love my food too much to have to restrict myself to 1300-1500 calories to maintain. I want to eat >2000 calories, dammit! And if the way to do that is to lose on more, and then increase them later, that's what I want to do.
The problem with too much restriction too early on is that your body will adapt, and as it gets smaller you'll need less calories. So if you start too low, where do you go from there?
My philosophy is to eat the maximum (healthy) calories I can for weight loss, and then when I start slowing down to cut back *a little* and increase my activity. You need to leave yourself some wriggle room.
Good luck and let us know how you go.
Gekster
11-23-2009, 11:57 AM
Thanks for all the responses. I have raised them to between 1600 and 1800. I am losing still, but at first I gained, but the bad thing is it is hard to tell what is causing it because TOM is visiting and I am working through the flu. So I will continue and see how it goes once everything is normal.
Berrybell- The doctor just wanted me to raise the calories because she said at my weight I should be fine eating more, so I should. The thing is though, I didn't just pick a number, I ate normally for a week, writing everything down, and at the end of the week I totalled the calories and was getting about 1300-1500 so I thought that was where I should be if that was what my body was happy with me eating. I just have a habit of eating low calorie foods so it works out that way.
sacha
11-23-2009, 03:24 PM
Ok, here is the deal with dropping calories too low (1300-1500). Your resting BMR, for the average size woman, is around 1250-1400 calories (that is what your body needs to sustain itself if you were on bedrest or in a coma).
Eat anything at that rate or even lower (we've all seen it here), and the weight that you are losing includes MUSCLE, and lots of it. So yes, women DO lose weight at 1300 calories - but they are also losing muscle and strength. Yes, some women want to lose a "#" no matter what the cost - but how many of those women maintain for yearS (5+) and improve their health and strength? I'd like to see one. Look through the maintainer's forum and you will see a trend in how we eat - we don't drop our calories too low.
Bottom line, is that slow and steady really DOES win the race at this. 1600-1800 is a great amount - you will lose body fat and be able to preserve muscle. Most of all, you will maintain strength and stay healthier.