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GradPhase
11-05-2009, 05:21 PM
I just woke up to the news here in AK. I'm an Army brat, grew up on Hood, and know a lot of friends there right now. After a very good cry, and calling around for a while to touch bases with a few people - my eyes are still glued to the news for any and all possible updates.

Are you at Ft. Hood? Do you have loved ones there? Are you unrelated but still effected? Just thought I'd open a thread for some sound-offs on it.

Lots, and lots, and lots, of prayers and good thoughts from my end for the friends, and families and neighbors of people effected. What a terrible, terrifying thing to happen...


HotWings
11-05-2009, 05:40 PM
Wow... I had no idea. I am turning on the news now to check it out. What a horrible thing. Foxnews is saying all of the shooters (there were 3) were soldiers. :(

My heart & prayers go to all of those at Ft Hood & all those with loved ones there. :( :hug:

Sweetcaroline
11-05-2009, 07:45 PM
I am so upset by this, I can't imagine anticipating deployment to serve and protect then being killed on your own soil... Heartbreaking............ I'm praying for the families and the souls of those lost in this horrible tragedy...


bargoo
11-05-2009, 08:37 PM
Truly tragic, praying for the families affected by this. One of those killed was a civilian police officer and of course the family of the shooter is stunned by this news as well. So many sad families today, they all need prayers.

EZMONEY
11-05-2009, 08:53 PM
Prayers for all of those that will suffer from this cowardly act.

RN BSN 2009
11-05-2009, 09:00 PM
gosh, more bad publicity for muslims. arrrgh!

HotWings
11-05-2009, 09:12 PM
Wow... I had no idea. I am turning on the news now to check it out. What a horrible thing. Foxnews is saying all of the shooters (there were 3) were soldiers. :(

My heart & prayers go to all of those at Ft Hood & all those with loved ones there. :( :hug:

BTW.. it appears there was only the one shooter. The other two "suspects" taken into custody were apparently trying to stop the shooter (according to Fox News), so had to be detained for questioning. What amazes me, is that he was a MAJOR and was a PSYCHIATRIST helping soldiers at Walter Reed after they returned from their tours. He was vehemently against the war (according to the news) and did not want to be deployed, but was being deployed anyway.

I just don't get why he would take it out on so many other soldiers. Although, according to witnesses, he was targeting certain people that he knew that he may have had conflicts with. It's just so, so very sad. :(

Thighs Be Gone
11-05-2009, 09:38 PM
NPR said the shooter was reprimanded a couple of years ago for voicing his Islamic beliefs as they directly related to Americans. It is what it is. When will we learn???????

Sweetcaroline
11-05-2009, 09:45 PM
Fox just aired the press conference from Ft. Hood. The shooter is alive and in 'stable condition'.. The female civilian police woman who shot him is also alive, condition unknown.

Fat Pants
11-05-2009, 09:47 PM
This is so heartbreaking. We just had several thousand soldiers and their familes from Hood move up here to Ft Carson. I have family serving in the Army..... this just makes me sick to my stomach.

HotWings
11-05-2009, 09:54 PM
Fox just aired the press conference from Ft. Hood. The shooter is alive and in 'stable condition'.. The female civilian police woman who shot him is also alive, condition unknown.

AMAZING! They have been saying on the news that he was one of the fatalities. Maybe he will survive so he can pay for his detestable crime. :mad: Praying all goes well for the officer!!

RN BSN 2009
11-05-2009, 09:55 PM
Please do not think that this is islam. It's against islamic religious laws to kill others. Arrgh!

HotWings
11-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Please do not think that this is islam. It's against islamic religious laws to kill others. Arrgh!

It is the radical fringe that is the problem, which makes it very difficult for all muslims. :hug: Even worse, they assimilate themselves into our society and rarely give clues they are radical. That tends to make everyone of that culture suspect. It is a very thin line to walk. :(

Thighs Be Gone
11-05-2009, 11:05 PM
Please do not think that this is islam. It's against islamic religious laws to kill others. Arrgh!

I thought the Quaran justified "defensive" behaviors in the name of Jihad any time believers feel attacked. Isn't the reward for these "defensive" behaviors great? Please explain. I can certainly quote several passages dignifying my statements here.

Institches21
11-06-2009, 01:01 AM
My thoughts and prayers to all the families, and to all those brave men and women that fight so hard to protect us all.

bargoo
11-06-2009, 12:24 PM
When I went to bed last night I thought the shooter was dead and when I got up this morning I find he is still alive but wounded. I wonder if he was planning to get himself killed, it has been said he was giving away personal items yesterday before the shootings. People who are planning suicide sometime give away personal belongings before committing the act. He may have been planning suiciude by police. or Army MPS.

Sweet Sissy
11-08-2009, 11:11 PM
One of my dearest friends is stationed at Fort Hood. He is, thankfully, safe - but shaken. Please continue to send your thoughts/prayers/good vibes for him and all his brothers who are dealing with such an unsteady atmosphere.

ladyrider72472
11-08-2009, 11:31 PM
I will pray for all of the soldiers/familes that were affected by Ft. Hood.

Don't forget when you are praying for them...... pray for the other soldiers around the world. Whether you agree with the war or not..... OUR young men and women are dying for us!

GradPhase
11-09-2009, 02:22 PM
I think, with all of the "interviews" on the news, and with all of Islam jihad stereotyping aside, just the fact that the man specialized in PTSD, and heard horror stories day in and day out of likely very classified information about rape and torture and murder and death and destruction, after working at Walter Reed surrounded by some of the worst burn victims, with the most terrifying accounts of what's going on over there - to be told that now YOU'RE next to go over to this inevitable ****, AND knowing that you will LIKELY be prosecuted against by your OWN brothers in arms based on your ethnicity while you're over there (not even necessarily because of religion) speaks volumes about what we expect our military members to be capable of, and the truth in frailty of the human psyche. I think that sentiment alone is enough to break someone down to insanity - and that's how I'm viewing what's happened. I don't think it has nearly as much to do with Islam as it has to do with him being so well versed on the reality of what's going on over there, and just being terrified of it happening to himself.

And I certainly think it is disgraceful with all of the anti-Islam fears still stewing under the surface in America - that some of the choice news stations immediately chose to follow the Ft. Hood story with those pigs outside the mosque in New York spewing hate speech as if there's any real proven connection between the two - especially since they've been doing it for a LONG time, it's not any new recent development. It's just sick and disgusting, and it definitely does not help out the innocent, warm, loving, caring Muslims we do have here that are just as much an American as everyone else. Sad and irresponsible.

I just wish more people were willing to look at the situation through a more culturally aware lens instead of such an ethnocentric one.

nelie
11-10-2009, 12:35 PM
I'm with Eskinomad, people flip all the time and it doesn't have to be because of their race/ethnicity/etc. Just because there are other extremists out there doesn't mean that this man is one of them.

My father was in the army and at one point he was stationed at Ft Hood. He went to Viet Nam and my mom said that he had lots of issues after he came back and had a really hard time for many years.

And there could be some cultural aspects and although I don't believe that his family is from Afghanistan, imagine being put in a place where your national brethren are dying and are your cultural brethren are dying due to fighting eachother. Hearing about death and killing are much different than looking at it straight in the face.

Unless I hear otherwise, I'm assuming he snapped.

Sweetcaroline
11-10-2009, 07:06 PM
My goodness that ceremony today was beautifully sad, the empty combat boots made me sob. I recovered only to sob again during the final roll call, the echo, then silence when the dead soldiers name were called, Taps... I was totally moved... and still overcome with a profound sadness...
God Bless those families on Fort Hood...

GradPhase
11-11-2009, 03:13 AM
I sobbed through the whole thing too. What a fantastic job they did organizing it. It definitely left me more patriotic feeling than ever before.