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EveLHaelf
10-29-2009, 05:20 PM
So I think I've found my race to train for.....

The see Jane run half marathon in June 2010

I'm just curious if 7 months is enough time to go from beginner (I've been exercising for 12 weeks and my endurance has improved a bunch) to being able to do a half marathon??? I know that I can do anything if I set my mind to it, I just want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for failure by setting an unrealistic goal because maybe 7 months isn't enough time. It doesn't seem like it would be unrealistic because last season on the biggest loser, contestants were able to run a half marathon after only 12 weeks! I know that they do TONS of exercising on the ranch so 12 weeks would be too short a time for me, but 7 months seems doable.....I just wanted to ask the more experienced runners what they though?? Any suggestions??

Thanks for reading! :dizzy::hug:


Idealmuse
10-29-2009, 08:23 PM
EveLHaelf I'be heard of people doing it, but usually they recommend slightly longer. It will likely take you about 12-14 weeks just to learn how to run 30-60 minutes if you're not already running, and that doesn't leave a lot of time to ramp up and let the body adjust. Not only the muscles have to adjust but your ligaments/joints/bones etc. have to get used to the pounding.

However That being said It's possible, but you'd have to work extra hard on the weight loss and follow a program/plan pretty strictly. IMO.

As an example: I re-started running this June (I had a little bit of a running base from the prior year doing Triathlons but not much) and I can do over 9 miles or about 2 hours now and I would think by New Years I could probably do a half so that's just over 6 months.

Don't know if I'm the best example though and I tend to take on big things like that before most people advise it... but I'm a big fan of I think we are capable of WAY more then we think we are.

Just be really careful and not take on too much too soon that's how running inuries occur. The general rule is don't add more then 10 percent per week.

But I say go for it... if you find that you can only run 8 miles by then... then you walk the last 5. No big deal.

Fat Pants
10-29-2009, 09:09 PM
I don't think you'll know until you start to train and can gauge your physical ability. I was just slightly lighter than you when I started running in February. I had been an exerciser for maybe a year or so on the elliptical and cross trainer but honestly, running is an entirely different story (at least it was for me). I trained for a 5k for 6 months and am doing my first 10k in November. Next May will be my first half mary (so 15 or so months after I started running) and next October, my first marathon. Even though I was an experienced exerciser, running was just a different ballgame.

That said! You don't have to commit to the HM today so why not start out with a running program, get some racing experience under your belt (5ks, a 10k or two), and see where you're at in May? You can typically register for races up until race day so you have plenty of time to make a decision. So give running a shot... it's GREAT to have a goal and train for it... knowing I have races coming up really keep me motivated with my training. Good luck!


EveLHaelf
10-29-2009, 09:21 PM
Great advice both of you! I agree that running is very different from the elliptical or my biggest loser dvd's I've been doing, lol.

I like the idea of just going for it and doing my best. This particular race doesn't have a time limit that you have to finish in so it would be no big deal to walk towards the end.

Fat pants, I have until february to decide and register (otherwise the registration price nearly doubles :o) So I will definitely take your advice and just start out and see how it goes. I do plan on doing some 5k's first, but whenever I search for upcoming 5k's in 2010 I don't find anything so I guess it's too soon maybe...idk I'll keep looking though.

Thank you both for responding! I will keep yall posted. :D

Idealmuse
10-29-2009, 09:28 PM
Yeah I think in general they don't list smaller races until after the new year I'm having trouble finding them here as well which makes planning my season next year a bit tricky.

FatPants has the right idea though - Just try it and see how it goes. BTW The first few weeks you'll likely hate it, but once your body gets adjusted it actually gets pretty addicting. Also, take it slow speed wise at first. Too many new runners try to start out too fast!

Sounds like you have some exciting plans though! Woo Hoo!

Fat Pants
10-29-2009, 10:34 PM
Haha yeah I totally second what Ideal said... I hated it for probably the first5-6 weeks but I kept coming back.. then suddenly I started seeing improvements which was so motivating! I think you'll love running!

Too bad the registration fee doubles in February, but that gives you at least 12 weeks to get comfortable with running. Check out Hal Higdon's novice half marathon training program. Once you build up a good base (3 or 4 miles), his training program can give you a good idea what's needed next.

EveLHaelf
10-29-2009, 11:42 PM
Thanks a lot guys! I'm really excited to get started, and now that I have a race in mind I'm even more motivated! Fat pants, I will certainly check that out once I get my good base goin' :D

Thanks again, for your honesty, advice, and encouragement!

I'm starting tomorrow! :dizzy:

Idealmuse
10-30-2009, 12:25 AM
keep us updates how it goes!

MBN
10-30-2009, 07:00 AM
I'm just curious if 7 months is enough time to go from beginner (I've been exercising for 12 weeks and my endurance has improved a bunch) to being able to do a half marathon???

It depends on your expectations. Do you think you can work up to walking 13.1 miles? If so, then yes, you can complete a half marathon. Many people walk half and even full marathons. The key is to check the race rules and look for the cutoff times and pick a half marathon that is walker-friendly, with a 16 mile per minute pace cutoff or longer. You can choose to run all or any part of the race, depending on your physical conditioning at the time, and still be assured of making the cutoff times.

I ran my first half marathon as a beginner runner with about that much lead time - BUT, I was already running 3 miles nonstop and was not significantly overweight at the time. And, at that, I still increased mileage too quickly, got a mild case of hip bursitis, had to take several weeks off, then ramp up mileage more slowly. The surest way to injury is to ramp up mileage too quickly in your enthusiasm, before your tendons, muscles and joints are ready for the high impact nature of running. It takes time for that conditioning to occur. It is also important to cross-train to strengthen your muscles, stretch often and effectively, and get good, properly fitting running shoes.

Don't get me wrong, I love half marathons. I'll be running my 10th in a couple of weeks. It's my absolute favorite race distance and a wonderful goal to set for yourself. Halhigdon.com is good, and also check out www.jeffgalloway.com for beginner training schedules. He is an advocate of using run/walk intervals as a strategy for running distances that is easier on your body than nonstop running. It worked very well for me, and I STILL take walk breaks in my races, if only at the water stops.

It is a good idea to try at least one race beforehand - a 5K or 10K - to get a feel for the race experience. IMO there is no better motivator than to sign up for a race. It changes my perspective totally - I'm not just "working out", I'm training! I love the events, the crowds, the thrill of the finish line, and the pretty medal. That's why I keep signing up for more!

Please do keep us posted.

Fat Pants
10-30-2009, 08:13 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot about Jeff Galloway! I like his run/walk intervals. In fact I combined both Hal Higdon's and Jeff Galloway's marathon training schedules to create my own training plan.

And what Ideal and MBN have said is so very true and important... and I think probably most beginner runner's make this mistake... but more is not always better. I trained so hard for my first 5k that I ended up sitting out for two weeks after the race because my IT Band was so painful that I couldn't run. It's exciting and addicting to run and race, but above all, listen to your body!!

Nada
10-30-2009, 09:16 AM
I trained for about 6 months for my first half but ran/walked it. My next one I'll train to run the whole thing (except water stations, of course--I can't run and find my mouth at the same time).

MBN you forgot about the T shirts. I love wearing them in public and know people are wondering--did she really do that? Heck yeah I did.

MBN
10-30-2009, 10:23 AM
:D MBN you forgot about the T shirts. I love wearing them in public and know people are wondering--did she really do that? Heck yeah I did.
Oh yeah, and the bigger events like half and full marathons have the GOOD shirts, the hi-tech ones, that you can actually work-out in. I have so doggone many cotton race shirts and I never wear those - end up giving them to my kids or GoodWill. I even scored a cool-max running hat at a couple of events. Those are the BEST!

I can't drink and run either. I've tried. Water gets up my nose, I choke, and it's Not Pretty. If I want a drink, I have to walk. I can run and eat Gu's or Cliff Bloks, but drink ... fergidabboudit. :D

EveLHaelf
10-30-2009, 12:18 PM
Congrats on the 10 half marathons MBN! I certainly will be checking out the jeff galloway link.

And I can't run and drink either. I end up wearing most of it :dizzy:

The shirts are something else I'm looking forward to. I can't wait to show off what I've accomplished! I'll be taking so many pictures! ;)

Purplefirefly
11-01-2009, 02:40 AM
I have signed up for my first race as well, but I am taking it a bit slower. I found a race coming up that has a competitive walk and am going to enter that first, though walkers leave at the same time and do the same course, so I am afraid of getting run over!

But, I have a question that is probably really stupid but here goes...how do you get back to the starting point to get your car if the course ends a good distance away? I will likely not have anyone with me to pick me up at the end, so how does that work?

I know, a dumb beginner question but I have been worried about getting to the end and being lost :^: It is that kind of stupid fear that has kept me from doign this before and I decided just to ask and not let it stop me this time!

EveLHaelf
11-01-2009, 08:26 AM
I wish I could help you but I've never done a race before, I'm really excited to start though! I'm sure someone will be able to answer your question, these ladies are smart!

Good luck with your first race!:hug:

mkroyer
11-01-2009, 09:01 AM
Purple-- if the race is well thought out ( and *most* are, at least in my experience) they will have a shuttle service. it will EITHER pick runners up BEFORE the race at the finishing area, and shuttle them to the start, OR it will pick runners up at a designated place at the e3nd, and bring them BACK to the beginning. MOST of the time the shuttle service is free, but not always. ALso, be prepared to have to be at the race really really early if the shuttle picks you up BEFORE and takes you to the start. Be prepareed to WAIT for a while if the shuttle picks you up at the END to take you back to your car! Best thing to do is carpool, OR have a loved one take you, watch you start the race, and then drive and meet you at the end! Hope that helped..

BTW it wasnt silly...i used to TOTALY STRESS about that ALL THE time, until i got used to doing races.....the organizers wont leave you hanging like that!! :) Oh, my OTHER big stress is always about the availability of porta-potties along the race course!! Keeps me up at night! :)

Purplefirefly
11-01-2009, 10:21 AM
That makes me feel much better, MK! I am only walking a 5K this time so I didn't even think about potties!

MBN
11-02-2009, 06:56 AM
The race web site should post all of the details -- parking, shuttle service (if applicable), race route, gear check, even porta pottie locations and water stops. The larger/longer races are usually very well organized and give you all of that in advance.

I am rather compulsive about researching it all ahead of time. My race paranoia usually revolves around finding parking, getting lost, and being late. So I research the race site, pick my parking strategy and get there VERY early. I'd rather hang around for 90 minutes ahead of time (and get in the potty lines 2 or 3 times), rather than risk running late and totally freaking out ....

Purplefirefly
11-02-2009, 07:47 AM
Oh, I am so glad I'm not the only one worrying about these things...makes me feel more normal :) I don't even know how to sign up for it yet! It is a Jingle Bell Run through a local town YMCA near my house and it is about a month away. They are listing it on their YMCA website but no details as of last week, will check again today. I found it through the search at runnersworld.com and that listing doesn't give much details beyond date and time and distance, etc.

Purplefirefly
11-02-2009, 07:58 AM
I wish I could help you but I've never done a race before, I'm really excited to start though! I'm sure someone will be able to answer your question, these ladies are smart!

Good luck with your first race!:hug:

You are so brave to start out with a half marathon! I have been thinking about doing the Columbus half marathon because it is right at the time we visit my family in Ohio, but the distance scares me. I am so afraid I will never be able to even walk it! Hopefully shorter races will boost my confidence up some.

:hug: I think you can do it, but don't injure yourself.

MathGirl87
11-03-2009, 07:10 PM
My goal is to run a half-marathon as well!

I think for a half-marathon 7 months is okay as long as you keep up the training continuously. My dad ran a full marathon after training for only 8 months..and that's thirteen miles more than a half, and my dad was DEFINITELY not in the best shape, even when he actually ran the marathon!

I think it just depends on the individual though, just watch yourself and try to do things that will decrease your chance of injuries (keeping hydrated, wearing really good shoes, using appropriate form, etc.). That way you won't have any blips in your training schedule.

I have about 11 months until my half-marathon and I am starting off by walking because it's been over a year since I went for a jog!

How did you get motivated to run in a marathon? My brother just ran in one in October and I saw him cross the finish line. I was so proud of him and so were my parents...I want that same feeling!

Idealmuse
11-03-2009, 11:43 PM
Some races are loops and not point-to-point so you don't have to worry about shuttles or what not. This was the case with my 15k last weekend - makes it pretty headache free. I don't like dealing with logistics with shuttles either.

MBN
11-04-2009, 07:20 AM
I've never run a 5K or 10K that wasn't a "loop". They are just too short. It's usually when you get into the longer (and bigger) races that you start seeing the point to point courses and have to mess with shuttles and such. But the bigger races are also usually well-organized. I've never had issues with shuttle transportation.

Now gear-check lines, THOSE can be a royal PIA if not well sorted, but that's another thing altogether .... Word of advice: NEVER use the swag bag they give you at the Expo for gear check, because then (surprise, surprise), yours will look exactly like the 6000 others!! Bring your own, preferably in some neon unmistakeable color and use that. Then you can point to your fluorescent orange bag with purple stripes in the stack and get yours immediately!

EveLHaelf
11-04-2009, 05:47 PM
Purple, thank you for the kind words!

Mathgirl, good luck with your half marathon!

I started my weight loss journey thirteen weeks ago. I started just doing at home workout dvd's like the biggest loser ones and walking my dog. During those weeks, I learned so much about myself and my limits and basically that I can do anything that I put my mind to. These past weeks have been so empowering! I wanted to start running and I figured I would be more motivated if I had a race to train for. I started searching, but the only thing I found was the see jane run half marathon in june. No 5k's no smaller races....I evaluated the time I had to prepare, researched the race all I could and I started this thread to ask what people thought and...I just went for it, I signed up! There is no time limit to finish in so I know that I will get to finish no matter how far along in my training I get. I can do this!

"He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life...."

gets me revved up every time! ;)

MathGirl87
11-08-2009, 02:05 AM
There is no time limit to finish in so I know that I will get to finish no matter how far along in my training I get.

gets me revved up every time! ;)

Keep up the good work! Just make sure you use the "no time limit" thing as an excuse for not training hard...not saying that you would...but I know for me, that would be my thought if I didn't want to wake up and exercise one morning, and then one morning would turn into a week, etc. etc.

Keep updating us on the training, I'm so excited for you!