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Ryanne
10-03-2009, 11:37 AM
I wanted to start a support group just for us. I don't know if there is already one, and if there is, I didn't see it.
I am doing Kelli's Bible Study, and I wanted some feedback on other people who are also kicking gluttony and idolatry to the curb and glorifying God in their eating and drinking.
I could use some support and could use some friends. :D


bargoo
10-03-2009, 12:28 PM
Ryanne, there is a wonderful support group called Christian Encouragers and another called Prayer Warriors . You can find them under Faith Based Support (where you posted this ).

Ryanne
10-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Ryanne, there is a wonderful support group called Christian Encouragers and another called Prayer Warriors . You can find them under Faith Based Support (where you posted this ).


I just thought that there seemed to be some of various religions in those threads and I was specifically asking for support with like minded people. I am "Born Again" and I wanted others that may be "Born Again Christians" to fellowship with and support each other.


bargoo
10-03-2009, 01:03 PM
I would encourage you to come on over to those groups , I think you will find what you are looking for.

Bootsie
10-03-2009, 01:55 PM
Ryanne hi, and welcome! Is what you looking for is discussion on Kelli's Bible study? Where are you at in her study? I am behind and I understand needing someone to discuss the study. We do have another group as Bargo has said and too you are so welcomed there also and do hope you join. But if you are looking for discussion on her Bible study that would be nice also. Kelli does have a web site also where we can do a discussion but no one would discuss anything with me there, kinda got lonely, so I stopped. Especially when it gets so hard for me to get on here and there and post sometimes. Please explain to us what you are looking for, all of us have different religions. So glad you are here. Oh and yes I have been born again, I am a completely different person than I was 10 years ago.

Bootsie
10-03-2009, 02:11 PM
I just read something out of sugar busters that might be of interest to some on portion size, on page 130.
The portions that you select for each meal should fit nicely on your plate. All of us know what a dinner plate looks like. It has a flat bottom and is flanged around the sides. Your meat and vegetables should fit nicely on the bottom of the plate and should not extend on or over the sides. If you place proper servings on the plate , then the need to count grams is unnecessary. Remember , once you have served your plate appropriately , do not go back for seconds and thirds. Everyone should understand this concept, following it will prevent you from overeating at any particular meal.

Kelli
10-03-2009, 03:43 PM
Hi Ryann,

I think a Born-Again support group is a great idea! Although I do think most of the encouragers are born-again, but maybe something more in-depth, other than how the day is going??? Not that, that's not important because it is. I believe fellowship and constant contact with other Christians is vital, like it says.

You've found a great place to come and vent, share or ask for prayer support. This is a great group who will be very encouraging, caring and loving....anyone is welcome to join!

But I have felt a need for an in-depth discussion on our love for Jesus.

So that being said, I must confess, this last week was a rough one for me. Satan was just in my face!!! I was eating anything and everything, especially sugar. On Friday I woke up with the worst headache, feeling guilty, scared, and I had a real revulsion towards anything even slightly sweet. I read Week 9 Day 2, and it kicked me in the behind, and made me realize it's God's problem. Then I read ahead to Week 9 day 2 Wrestling with God, and it showed me I was trying to manipulate my weight loss again. Then week 9 day 3 Where is you fire lit, made me finally GIVE IT UP!!! PRAISE GOD!! as soon as I did that, I was back to food being a non-issue. Why is it so hard to let it go??? When I do give up control, everything is so much easier. Eating becomes more of a bother, than a all consuming desire.

Thanks Rayann for all your support you are a good friend, and I know God brought you to me. :hug:

Love, Kelli

Ryanne
10-03-2009, 04:36 PM
:D Yes, I am wanting fellowship with other Born Again Christians just as Kelli and you said, and yes, the discussion of Kelli's Bible Study would be great, and a place to talk about those struggles and victories and ideas and about our Lord. I love you BOTH and would love to see this thread get going! :grouphug:

pattygirl63
10-03-2009, 05:27 PM
Hi Girls,

I do enjoy the other faith groups, but I also felt the need and sometimes just the desire to have Diet BS group where we could discuss what we were learning. I've made it through Week 9 and had planned to stop and pick up Week 10 next summer. I'm going to BSF this year and we are studying the book of John. Kellie's wonderful lessons get me so into the work and dig deep with the lessons and my feelings and thoughts and so does BSF lessons. I tried to do them together but became a lot to do all at once.

I do agree with Kellie in the fact that I believe all those in the Encouragers group are born again and would probably still go there. However, if you do decide to continue this support group for us, I am definitely in. I will even go back to where everyone is so we're pretty much on the same page and refresh on the lessons I've already done. When studying the Word and applying it to our lives, we can always learn something new or something that re-enforces what we have learned. I think it is marvelous how the Lord does that. The Word of God never grows old or loses it's power to change us no matter how many times we read or study it. Who knows might even work in finding a way to finish the other lessons as we all get to them.

I'll do whatever y'all decide.

pattygirl63
10-03-2009, 05:41 PM
So that being said, I must confess, this last week was a rough one for me. Satan was just in my face!!! I was eating anything and everything, especially sugar. On Friday I woke up with the worst headache, feeling guilty, scared, and I had a real revulsion towards anything even slightly sweet. I read Week 9 Day 2, and it kicked me in the behind, and made me realize it's God's problem. Then I read ahead to Week 9 day 2 Wrestling with God, and it showed me I was trying to manipulate my weight loss again. Then week 9 day 3 Where is you fire lit, made me finally GIVE IT UP!!! PRAISE GOD!! as soon as I did that, I was back to food being a non-issue. Why is it so hard to let it go??? When I do give up control, everything is so much easier. Eating becomes more of a bother, than a all consuming desire.

Kellie I think I've been experiencing the same thing. Trying to manipulate my weight loss. I think the world makes us feel like we are supposed to be in such control with diets that it is so easy to slip back into that mindset without even realizing it. It really is so much easier when we let Him take the reigns.

I have a problem sometimes of being regular. I got up this morning and it was like the Lord gave me an interesting mixture to eat for breakfast. I love oatmeal, but it has become too much and feels too heavy. I had bought some lowfat cream cheese that I need to use. So had decided to have toast with cream cheese instead of butter and then add peanut butter to it. As I was making the toast it came to me out of the blue to add a Tbls of flaxseed meal, cinnamon and a touch of honey to mix. Cinnamon is good for keeping blood sugar down. My toast is the 40 calorie wheat bread with 5 grams of fiber. So ln just a matter of moments I had a nice not so heavy healthy breakfast that I believe God showed me to make this. It meets all my health issues, is quick and easy to make and it tastes pretty good.

Bootsie
10-03-2009, 06:28 PM
Ryanne, I think you got your answer this is a go. So where are you in Kelli's Bible study?
Trish looks like Jesus wants to keep you around here for a while:hug::carrot:
Kelli, you were stressed about about something sounds like and you had no one to talk to , don't forget girl God put us together for a reason.Like, He is putting this thread together using Ryanne for a reason, :woohoo: so let's get it moving!:bike2:

Ryanne
10-03-2009, 07:32 PM
We could start anywhere. If you all want to just start over with one we could do that...I say we start tomorrow! This will be fun! :D

Kelli
10-03-2009, 08:44 PM
Woohoo, I'm in.

Trish you don't really have to do the Diet Bible study, I think I did BSF, a long time ago. Is that the study where they absolutely do not allow any discussion on religion??? So you are free from "Religion" and can fellowship in the Word. As I recall it was a good one. You could certainly use that because it would be different insights, and that is always a plus. In fact if you are feeling that way, it could be exactly what God wants... :hug:

This is so cool because this is what I envisioned, to do the study in a group setting. I have grown to love all you ladies so much, your the best. I love this whole section of the forum. The encourages are just that. Non-judgmental, loving and supportive, and the prayer group is the best too. It's so comforting knowing you can run to twenty or thirty people and ask for prayer. You just feel so supported.

So for those of us who want to do the study, we could start at the beginning. Trish you could just tell us what insites you have gained with BSF so far!

Also... about the diet portion of it... I really think you have to do what is best for you, as long as we don't become fixated and guilty for not following rules exactly... for me that was the key, to let myself make mistakes. I know right now I could go up and eat an ice cream, but I seriously have no interest. I usually don't like to do this, because it trips me up (think about what I have eaten) but It's 5:32 and today I have had two cups of black coffee, a dollar hamburger at McDonalds with ice water and about a cup of mashed potatoes with gravy. and a glass of milk. When I give up control it's soooooo scary just to trust that I won't go insane and eat everything in site, but when you know you can, it just loses it's appeal...

This is how I want it to be, like it was before I started dieting. When I ate to eat, not for comfort because I was feeling sad, or whatever... I want that freedom for the rest of my life. I am soooo tired of worrying about it. But I want it so much. I guess I think God wouldn't let me have what I so desire, but He says He will. He will give us the desire of our hearts!!!

Love, Kelli

EZMONEY
10-03-2009, 09:09 PM
May your new thread be blessed!

Kelli
10-03-2009, 09:15 PM
Thank you Gary, you are a blessing!!!

pattygirl63
10-03-2009, 10:37 PM
Thanks everyone for including me. I am excited about this. I am going to get my materials out and start over with all of you tomorrow.

Kellie Yes that is BSF. I found it interesting that when I started BSF that what I got out of it went along with what I was learning on you Biblle study and the small groups Bible study I'm doing at church. I think it will be beneficial for me to do this with y'all. I'll take the lessons I've done and just go over what I wrote when I did it and see if I have any new insights since then.

Bootse I agree. I also think Jesus must want me here.

Ryanne Thanks for starting this thread. Now that we are doing this, I'll admit that I was hoping we would have something like this when Kellie started the Diet Bible Study. I am excited about this.

Gary Thanks for blessing this thread.

Personally ladies, I don't think this takes from Encouragers or the Prayer Warriors threads at all. Hopefully it will compliment them.

Nite all. Have a great Sunday and I will catch y'all tomorrow.

Ryanne
10-03-2009, 10:44 PM
You could certainly use that because it would be different insights, and that is always a plus. In fact if you are feeling that way, it could be exactly what God wants... :hug: So for those of us who want to do the study, we could start at the beginning. Trish you could just tell us what insites you have gained with BSF so far!

Yes, I think it would be wonderful for you to do the other study and give us all the insight you can. We all can use all the help we can get!

Also... about the diet portion of it... I really think you have to do what is best for you, as long as we don't become fixated and guilty for not following rules exactly... for me that was the key, to let myself make mistakes.

Yes, I think that God has given me my plan and I think that if I get too legalistic, I will ask you all for prayer concerning it, but I do believe that plans are not one size fits all, and I do believe that God will show each of us His plan for us.

This is how I want it to be, like it was before I started dieting. When I ate to eat He will give us the desire of our hearts!!!

Love, Kelli

Amen, Kelli...That is EXACTLY how I feel! Well, alrighty then, looks like we got a good start here. Can't wait to get to know all of you more! :yay:

Gary, thank you for the blessing on this thread, that was sweet.

Bootsie
10-04-2009, 12:54 AM
Cinnamon is good for keeping blood sugar down, thanks Trish I never knew that! I love cinnamon toast and I use the diet sugar with it. I have not had it in such a long time. I am not a diabetic but it runs in our family and so does heart trouble high cholesterol.
I just read something else very interesting in Sugar busters: There is an insulin and cholesterol connection they believe that the insulin must be causing the liver to make cholesterol, which makes sense because the doctor said my body was making cholesterol that I need to be on Cholesterol medicine, but she could not tell me how my body was making cholesterol, hmm...this book is really getting interested. If I know how my body is making cholesterol then I have a 2nd chance at correcting it, through foods I eat. Does that make sense or am I dreaming?

Ryanne
10-04-2009, 01:22 AM
Introduction
God Is Not Mad At You
“UNCLEAN, UNCLEAN”. It’s what the lepers of Jesus’ time had to shout when they walked through the streets. “UNCLEAN!” They were the outcast of society, shunned and mocked by society. People thought God was punishing them, so they thought they would get a special blessing if they helped God by punishing them. They felt they deserved what they got. People shunned and mocked them, looking at them in disgust, thankful and self-righteous.

We, who are overweight in our society, are the lepers of our day. We don’t have to yell out unclean; our bodies do that for us. We are the repulsive joke in shows such as Good Luck Chuck (I didn’t see it, just the previews made me sick). I saw a news story the other day that illustrated one of the many ways we are treated, and it broke my heart. A Rapper was in concert, and he said “all the beautiful ladies in this audience, get up on the stage and dance with me”, so girls started dancing up on the stage. The rapper started to laugh, and said “look ladies, if you weigh 200 pounds get off my stage”.

It was appalling to see the smiles wiped off their beautiful young faces, as the girls tried as quickly as possible to get off stage. They had done such a brave thing in getting up there. They gambled on the risky prospect of human kindness and lost. Any self-respect they might have desperately gained up to that point was shattered, and I know the pain they suffered. You probably do too. We suffer with them, knowing the world thinks of us, that we are gross, stupid, fools with no feelings.

Just as it must have felt hopeless to the lepers in Jesus’ time, we feel doomed to failure. We have tried, and hoped, and hoped and tried. Maybe this one will work; maybe this will be the one. How can being overweight be our fault, when we have tried so hard?

I understand how bad you want to be slim and healthy, I know because the desire to be thin consumed me. I was so humiliated about my weight. I hated to leave the house. I dreaded social situations. Even though he never said a word about my weight, I thought my husband was ashamed of me. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t lose the weight. Just like you, I felt doomed to failure.

This Bible study will show you the more will power you use, and the harder you try to lose weight, the heaver you will be. Dieting creates two obsessions. One, you become fixated on food, and two, you become fixated on your weight.

Believe me when I tell you, you are strong! You, yes you! You can be the person you want to be. The person God made you to be. It’s not about changing the food you eat. It’s about understanding and fixing the reasons you overeat. It’s about changing your wrong thinking into right thinking.

You have a problem with your weight because you eat more than your body uses, and in truth the answer is, stop eating more than your body needs. Don’t you wish it were that simple?

Diets try to convince us that we need to change the food we eat. They over simplify, and, over complicate the whole process. Wouldn’t it be easy if we could all just decide which diet was best for us, and then do it? If it was that clear-cut, obesity wouldn’t be the second highest preventable cause of death in America. I knew all that, but I couldn’t stop myself from overeating. I needed to find the reason I was overeating and why I couldn’t stop, that’s why I started to write this study. I was desperate, I always felt like I was in trouble with God. Writing this study I have come to know the character of our loving father and through studying His word, I found God is not mad at me at all.

A definition of sin as an act that hurts you or someone else, Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” (Notice the prerequisite for loving your neighbor is to love yourself).

Before I knew Him, I thought God was up in heaven somewhere saying, “FOLLOW THESE RULES BECAUSE I SAID SO, AND I -AM –THE- BOSS.

God has a plan for your life, and that plan includes you being joyful, and successful. He understands our weaknesses. Hebrews 4:15&16 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

God says gluttony is a sin (Proverbs 23:2) for good reason. Being overweight is a serious health condition that can lead to early death. People who are twenty percent heavier than their ideal weight are considered obese (determined by standard medical and insurance data). For example, the normal weight for woman who is 5’7" is 143 pounds, but they are considered obese if they weigh 189 pounds or above. http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

There are a so many medical problems associated with being overweight, including high blood pressure, heart problems, diabetes, sleep apnea, depression, and arthritis. These problems increase as your weight does. The heart of an obese person has to work harder causing congestive heart failure. Cardiovascular problems are common among obese people. High blood pressure can lead to the development of heart disease, kidney failure, and stroke.

God designed our bodies to need only so much food. Overeating puts too much sugar and fat in our system and our bodies can’t handle it, increasing the risk of developing type II diabetes.

My husband and I participated in a medical study at a University on how marriage affected blood pressure. They sent us to a lab for blood work. The lab was also conducting a five-year study on the morbidly obese. I had been on a diet and was almost at my goal weight (naturally, I gained it all back and more). The technician who was taking our health histories, said, “How refreshing, I’m used to patients having so many health issues because of their weight” she told me how much they suffer.

Hearing this broke my heart, because the memory how much it hurt being overweight was still fresh in my mind. How trapped and desperate I felt. How my ribs hurt how my knees and feet hurt. I was so tired and I hated myself, I knew the world thought I was just lazy and stupid.

I wanted to defend myself to everyone “I am trying to lose weight”, “the person inside here isn’t the person you see out there”, “and I’m trapped.” I felt like I wasn’t considered valuable. I felt useless and unloved, because I didn’t love myself. The world reserved its goodness for thin people, and the way most people treated me intensified my feelings, I felt people either dismissed me or patronized me. There were times I tried to dress up my fat and say I didn’t care. There were times I just gave up, and I would wear an old holey tee-shirt shirt and comfy bleach stained sweats everywhere. I hated how I looked, and felt, every moment of every single day.

God doesn’t see you that way, He sees the person He created in His image (Genesis 1:27). He sees the value of your eternal soul (Psalm 139: 1-18). You are important to God and He doesn’t want to see you live like this. It doesn’t make Him less of a God if you sin. If God didn’t love you, your pain wouldn’t hurt Him in the slightest. It’s your self-imposed suffering He labels as sin, God doesn’t condemn you, (John 3:17) All of us have sinned (Romans 3:23) He loves you.

Being overweight is not a sickness or an inherited problem. It’s the result of eating more than your body needs. You may say you have a slow metabolism, and it could be true, but it isn’t your get out of jail free card. It isn’t an excuse to eat more; it means your body doesn’t need as much food to maintain it.

I know the excuses from the medical world make us feel justified, but it doesn’t help our problem. If you think about it, and are honest with yourself those excuses dash all hope of ever being thin and healthy.

You are probably saying to yourself “I don’t need something else to make me feel guilty, I already feel Hopeless”, but I am here to declare to you that there is hope! You are going to tap into the power of the almighty God who created heaven and earth. The good news is because gluttony is a sin and not a defect; you have control of whether or not you participate in the sin. This Bible Study will help you understand the difference and apply the principles from the Bible to recognize and overcome Satan’s deception.

When I started writing this Bible Study I was well on my way to becoming another sad statistic. I weighed over two hundred pounds, had high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Food was the first thing I thought of when I woke up in the morning and the last thing I thought of when I went to sleep. I desired it beyond reason. The yearning to chew was irresistible and I couldn’t control it, I didn’t want to. The more I ate the more I needed. My desire for food was voracious and no matter how much I ate, the empty longing was never satisfied. Then one day my beautiful teenage foster daughter Mylissa walked through the front door, upset, with tears streaming down her sweet face, she told me she was hurt and humiliated, because a group of teenage boys drove by and yelled something about her being overweight. This beautiful sweet young girl, who had overcome so much in her life, was so wounded by these foolish boys, who had no idea of who she was as a person. I could feel her hurt and I wanted so much to help her.

I found a book on using the Bible as a diet guide. We started to read it, and even though I found the diet to be quite sensible, I realized the religious part of it was based on works. I found myself trying to explain why so much of it wasn’t Biblical and we finally gave up. I thought, "Somebody needs to write a real born again, Spirit filled Diet Bible study". I decided to write one for Mylissa and myself

I pray it will help you to find the truth about the emptiness we try so desperately to fill.
Understanding the things of the Spirit

You can’t understand the things of the spirit if you haven’t been born of the spirit, so having a relationship with Christ is a pre-requisite for this study.

I Corinthians 2:14 (NIV) says, 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

I am not talking about religion; I mean having a relationship with Jesus Christ. God loves you so much He wants a relationship with you, and He has a plan for your life, but you need to be born of the Spirit. How do you become born of the spirit?

John 3:1-21 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.” 3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”

5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

Let’s take these verses one at a time. Nicodemus came to Jesus with questions, and at first Jesus, answers confused him. He asked, “How can a person be born again? Go back into his mother’s womb?” Jesus answer was “unless one is born of the water” (the womb) “and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” Take note of verse nine, Nicodemus says, “How can these things be?” He wanted to know how to be born of the Spirit, And Jesus gives him the answer, gives all of us the answer in verse fifteen.

“Whoever believes in Him (Jesus) should not perish but have eternal life.” God tells us in His word, He wants us all to be with Him in heaven (II Peter 3:9), yet heaven is a perfect place. God won’t let it be corrupted by sin, any sin. (Revelation 21:27), So unless you are perfect, without sin you are not allowed in heaven. However, we are all sinners and separated from God, so now what do we do? Jesus is the perfect Son of God and He took the punishment paying the price for our sin, because we couldn’t afford it, we can’t be perfect. It’s important we realize our need for Christ and accept Him as your own savior. Confess your sin and need for him.

Romans 10: 8 & 9 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
It’s as simple as acknowledging you are a sinner and believe in your heart Jesus died on the cross for your sin.

II Peter 3:9 God is not willing that any should perish but that all would come to repentance.

Pray a prayer like this, to Jesus, in your own words, and mean it with all your heart.
~Lord Jesus, I know I am a sinner, I believe You died for my sins. Right now, I receive You as my Savior, and ask You to forgive my sins. I acknowledge You are the Lord of my life and I turn my life over to you, and ask you to help me turn from my sin and turn to You.
Thank you my Lord in Jesus name amen. ~

Now you have prayed this prayer and meant it, God will begin to change you from the inside out; He will change your desires. In fact, your desire will be for the things of God.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

By grace you are saved—a gift from your Lord!

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The cost of sinning (wages) is death (separation from God) but the Gift is eternal life. You can’t be good enough to get to heaven on your own. It’s a gift!

Ryanne
10-04-2009, 02:01 AM
God had shown me a lot of the truths that are in this Bible Study a while back and I was going along good, and then I don't know what happened, I believe I started getting caught back up in the "diet mentality" and definitely was over exercising to the point I couldn't see doing it for one more day, much less than the rest of my life.
I was spending hours at the gym, and I couldn't stand my trainer! I remember saying "I give up! I want to go back...I can't keep this up anymore!"
Now, with the wisdom of this study, I feel the timing is right for me, not only having Kelli's wisdom but to have all of your support. I know that we will all be free of gluttony and idolatry. I know that is my deepest desire now. God showed me a truth the other day...
"Being overweight is NOT the problem and losing the excess weight is NOT the answer. The problem is "gluttony". (Overeating, Eating when you're not really hungry, anticipating food too much, being too eager to eat,taking food with too much eagerness, to gulp down or swallow (eating too fast), over-indulgence and over-consumption of food or drink to the point of waste, eating voraciously, to squander, a misplaced desire of food or its withholding from the needy, also consists of an anticipation of meals, delicacies, sneaking food, not wanting to share, eating in secret to be left alone and not bothered so you can "enjoy" it...which it never truly satisfies the soul - only God can satisfy our spirit. Also waiting for the "time" to eat or wanting your body to HURRY UP and get hungry so you can eat, eating too expensively, eating too daintily, eating wildly.)

"It is not a sin to enjoy food or to feel pleasure in eating-God intended us to enjoy our food...but He didn't intend for us to "idolize" it. It is a defect to eat like beasts, through the soul motive of sensual gratification and without any reasonable object...If the motive is good and worthy, the most delicious foods can be eaten without sin." Author unknown.

This is WHY I want to be free of idolatry and gluttony. It is not fun to be in the grips of this horrible ball and chain.
Thank God we are free in Jesus! We are all walking out in freedom together! I'm so glad for your support! NIV© "For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them." :grouphug:

Ryanne
10-04-2009, 08:17 AM
Flowers Over the Wall
Week 1: Day 1

Isaiah 49:23b (NIV) Those who hope in Me will not be disappointed."

It had been a rough week for me. I was sitting in church and I was mad at God. I was mad at the world, and I most of all I was mad at myself, in fact I hated myself. I thought the reason I hated myself was that I was fat. It was sometime in the early 1990’s, I hadn’t been saved long, and all my self worth was centered on what I looked like.

As I sat there, I thought about how I had run into an old friend and the thought hurt because I still had his words ringing in my head. He had introduced me to a buddy of his, and his comment to his friend was “She used to be real good-looking until she had a kid and packed on forty pounds.” Apparently, he didn’t think that should hurt a fat girl.

I had met this old friend at a disco I worked at before I got married, and in that environment, around closing time, the compliments come in fast and furious. The only positive reinforcement I got was from men about my looks, and when they faded, as they always do, I was worthless in my own eyes. The sexual abuse I had endured as a child only reinforced my feelings. What made it worse was my highest level of education was seventh grade, so I knew I didn’t have a leg to stand on there.

Even though my husband constantly reassured me that he loved me, I was always afraid he would leave me. I didn’t believe he could still be in love with me He had married me when I was skinny. I was desperate to be thin again.

As I sat in church waiting for the service to begin, I thought back and remembered why I was mad at God. I decided I was going to pray and have faith God would do a miracle and make me skinny –down to a certain weight in exactly one month. I was used to getting on the scale every day, sometimes three or four times a day, but I decided for that month I would stay off them. I had a hard time waiting, so by the time the day came I was excited, I just knew God would do a miracle. I stepped up on the scale and… it hadn’t moved one millimeter. I was bitterly disappointed and furious with God. I was crying and praying, I opened the Bible and read,

Isaiah 49:23b (NIV) Those who hope in Me will not be disappointed."

I remember being enraged. I called God a liar. I was so mad.
I was disappointed; I felt He had let me down. I remember saying to Him, I did hope in you, this is your Word, and You promise we won’t be disappointed, You let me down!

I was still mad at God when the church service began. I couldn’t even get into the worship; usually the part I love the most. The Pastor started reading the text for the sermon that day, I was surprised because it was the same text I had been reading when I got so mad at God,

Isaiah 49:23b (NIV) Those who hope in Me will not be disappointed."

I was shocked when, in that church with over five-hundred people listening, the pastor said something along the lines of “somebody sitting here today, read that scripture this last week and was mad at God. It’s not acceptable to talk to God like that, you need to respect Him, but still, He wants you to know He will answer your prayer, not because of your righteousness, but for His Glory, and you will not be disappointed, but He will fulfill the promise in His time. Then he went on with his sermon, it was about trials and the blessings that come from trials.

The pastor related an incident in his life. He said he used to love to look at the fields out his back window. He loved to sit at his kitchen table and watch the wind make the stalks sway, so he was particularly disappointed when a contractor started building a subdivision right behind his house. Where lovely swaying grass once grew, was torn up, the ground full of pockmarks where foundations for new houses were being dug. He tried to give it to God, but the more he thought about it the angrier he got.

He knew it was silly to be so upset about an earthly thing, but he just couldn’t help it. He had enjoyed his view so much. He finally started becoming used to the idea, when his new neighbor moved in; he thought that maybe they could become friends.

Imagine his disappointment when the neighbor started building an ugly, Grey, ten foot, cinder-block wall. He built his wall so tall, my pastor could barley see the roof of this neighbor’s house. The pastor was ashamed to admit it, but he felt bitter against his neighbor every time he looked at the wall.

However, something started to happen over time, little flowers started peeking up over the wall, and then more flowers of different types and colors started to spill over. Slowly but surely the ugly wall became a mass of beautiful flowers. He said the effect was breathtaking and priceless. It was the focal point of his whole yard, and was so much better then the wheat grass that had him so enamored. He felt grateful to his neighbor for this wonderful gift.

He said sometimes God works like that, He may not take the problems away immediately, but like flowers over an ugly wall our problems can bloom and grow and fill us with joy. At the time, even though I knew God was talking to me, that sermon didn’t hit home. I thought Okay now I will be healed of my eating addiction because God spoke directly to me… but no I was still as addicted as ever.

Many years later when God did heal me, I recalled the sermon and gratitude overwhelmed me for the trial of being overweight. The flowers I have enjoyed through the years, searching for an answer to my problem, have filled my life with beauty. I am so grateful that God gave me the gift of being overweight. My weight problem brought me unimaginable joy, it brought me to my knees, It made me seek God, It made me see the beauty is my soul, the eternal part of me. The reason outer beauty is so important to the world is because Satan makes the least of us the most important part.

So here it is, I offer it to you, just as it is, seventh grade grammar problems and all. I would have been too embarrassed a few years ago to present such a deformed offering, but now I know God will use it, because in my weakness He is strong.

2 Corinthians 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
Let’s Get Started!

I struggled with my weight for seventeen years, I prayed every single day many times a day that God would help me lose weight. At times, I thought it was a test and in Gods time, He would make me thin, I thought it was God making me overweight. I would try to smile, and say, “I need to be happy with the way God made me.” The whole time feeling miserable, because the last thing I wanted was to be overweight for the rest of my life. This way of thinking also meant there was no hope of me ever being thin.

Almost every diet I tried started by telling me how their diet is different. I would always hope this one was different. I tried almost every diet on the market, praying that God would help me stay on them, and then I would fall short again. After so many failed attempts, I felt God was inaccessible because He wasn’t answering my prayers. I felt hopeless, like such a failure because nothing worked for me. I had a love hate relationship with food and was afraid of it, I would deny myself the foods I loved then “blow it” by binging.

Then at some stage during this confusion and sadness, I started realizing diets don’t work, because they don’t address the real problem they just cover it up. I had to figure out what my problem was. Why did I run to the refrigerator whenever I was bored, sad, tired, or when any other unpleasant emotion struck me?

I found that when I overate I was trying to dull pain. Food gave me temporary satisfaction. As I was swallowing massive amounts of food, I could zone out. I ran to food trying to fill a need, I found it didn’t work. The more I ate the hungrier I was. I found that running to anything other than God for fulfillment is spiritual Idolatry.

God created us with a need for a relationship with Him. We try to fill the God sized desire with food and it won’t satisfy our need, no matter how much we eat. Let me say that again, food will never satisfy that longing need, you can eat, and eat, and eat, and you can get fatter, and fatter, and fatter.

God created foods that taste good for our pleasure. However, He never intended for us to over indulge, lust, bow down, think about, and be greedy for food. Overeating will never satisfy and will lead to discontentment and hurt. That’s not God’s will for you.

The desire to be thin is not vanity. Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit your good stewardship of it is as important as anything God has given you. God says in the Bible, gluttony is a sin. However, dieting only exacerbates the problem. Diets only work on changing what foods you eat. We have to change the content of our hearts. We need to find the reason we are overeating. God’s made our bodies with a perfect system for regulating how much we should eat and when we over do it, our stomachs become numb to being full and our hearts become hard and insensitive.

READ: Hebrews 3:12-15 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called "Today," lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said: "Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.
It is hard to think you are sinning when you are so sad. You already feel condemned and I understand how bad you want to stop and so does God. You have had these habits for so long, they are so ingrained in your mind that you think it is something happening to you. How can it be a sin if you are a victim? Remember the definition of sin is an action that hurts you. We will use the Bible to understand and fix your compulsion to overeat.

This study will examine the Bible to find the answers to our dieting dilemma. The Study is designed to do five days a week, for about Thirty minutes a day. Don’t try to breeze through it quickly, it’s meant for study and contemplation.

Some of the points used in this study may seem redundant. I have found it easier to understand a concept if I hear it more than once.

At the end of each day’s lesson, there are three activities. I have a scripture passage that relates to the study. You should use your Bible and study it.

Then I’ll ask you to memorize one scripture a week. This is a very important step in your recovery because the Bible is the weapon you use to fight Satan and is the only thing that can break the bonds Satan has you tied with.

I have a difficult time memorizing anything so every day I’ll take out words. Try to fill in the blanks with out looking at the scripture. I have found this is useful for me. If you are one of those blessed individuals who find it easy to memorize then use your own method, whatever is easier for you, do.

The next activity is to review the lesson pray, and ask God to show you one or more statements or Scriptures from the study He wants you to understand, learn, or practice. This is a personal question and applies only to you it has no right or wrong answer.

The last question is asks what steps of faith God wants you to take toward him today. Spend a little time praying; ask God how He may want you to respond to this question. Then I’ll also ask you to reword that statement or Scripture into an expression of faith. That simply means you affirm your belief that God will give you the strength and faith to take those steps. This should become a time of prayer and meditation each day as you ask God what He wants you to do in response to each days study. The following is an example of the way I might have responded to today’s study.

In light of today’s study, what was the scripture or statement in today’s lesson that most spoke to your heart? God created food to taste good for our pleasure. However, God never intended for us to over indulge, lust, bow down, think about, and be greedy for food.

What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? He wants me stop thinking about, worshiping, and being greedy for food.

Rephrase the scripture or statement into an expression of faith: God thank you, for creating delicious food for me to enjoy. I believe you have given me self-control so I will not bow down and worship what you have created for my pleasure. I’ll only worship you.

God is brilliant, and His Bible is our Manual, by following God’s Holy Book, we find the answers for life’s problems.

We have to surrender our weight problem to God. When you stop running to the refrigerator for physical pleasure and comfort, you will start eating normal foods God created for you to enjoy. You will be eating only when you are actually hungry, you’ll be eating about half, or even less of what you have been, and you will lose weight.

Read Matthew: 6:31-34

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What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? ____________________
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Memory Verse: Isaiah 55:9 “ For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.

Ryanne
10-04-2009, 09:01 AM
"Almost every diet I tried started by telling me how their diet is different. I would always hope this one was different. I tried almost every diet on the market, praying that God would help me stay on them, and then I would fall short again. After so many failed attempts, I felt God was inaccessible because He wasn’t answering my prayers. I felt hopeless, like such a failure because nothing worked for me. I had a love hate relationship with food and was afraid of it, I would deny myself the foods I loved then “blow it” by binging.

Then at some stage during this confusion and sadness, I started realizing diets don’t work, because they don’t address the real problem they just cover it up. I had to figure out what my problem was. Why did I run to the refrigerator whenever I was bored, sad, tired, or when any other unpleasant emotion struck me?

I found that when I overate I was trying to dull pain. Food gave me temporary satisfaction. As I was swallowing massive amounts of food, I could zone out. I ran to food trying to fill a need, I found it didn’t work. The more I ate the hungrier I was. I found that running to anything other than God for fulfillment is spiritual Idolatry.

God created us with a need for a relationship with Him. We try to fill the God sized desire with food and it won’t satisfy our need, no matter how much we eat. Let me say that again, food will never satisfy that longing need, you can eat, and eat, and eat, and you can get fatter, and fatter, and fatter.

God created foods that taste good for our pleasure. However, He never intended for us to over indulge, lust, bow down, think about, and be greedy for food. Overeating will never satisfy and will lead to discontentment and hurt. That’s not God’s will for you.

The desire to be thin is not vanity. Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit your good stewardship of it is as important as anything God has given you. God says in the Bible, gluttony is a sin. However, dieting only exacerbates the problem. Diets only work on changing what foods you eat. We have to change the content of our hearts. We need to find the reason we are overeating. God’s made our bodies with a perfect system for regulating how much we should eat and when we over do it, our stomachs become numb to being full and our hearts become hard and insensitive.

God is brilliant, and His Bible is our Manual, by following God’s Holy Book, we find the answers for life’s problems.

We have to surrender our weight problem to God."

This is exactly what I did and how I felt. I felt like a failure since diets seemed to work for "everyone else and not me". I realized that diets don't work for everyone else, yes, they will take the weight off, calories in versus calories out, but the problem is STILL THERE!!! The problem is gluttony and idol worship.
I have to share this, because it's important to me....
I have been praying and believing God daily over this eating and drinking thing, right? So I had been drinking just water, the occasional fat free milk, and lemon tea...for MONTHS I stayed away from soda. So the other day, and I didn't realize this then, but I was thinking "well, if I drink what I want, that will help to keep me full and help me to not have food on my mind so much". So I bought some cappaccino and some diet soda. I have been trying to enjoy it, the cappaccino is gross, and for some reason, I was getting a check in my spirit with the soda. I know that I want to bring glory to God in my eating AND drinking. So the thing is, God showed me that I was looking back to what worked for me before, and so I was trying to help myself. OUCH! I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the drinks themselves, it was my frame of mind. I didn't realize this was what I was doing until this morning, even though I have been dealing with the check in my spirit for about a week or so now. I was just doing it with a wrong spirit. Trying to "help" myself. What was God's plan for me? Well, something I discovered quite by accident... I used to leave Christian music on in my home all the time, well I hadn't done this for probably a good nine months or so, so I put some praise and worship on all day yesterday, and it really seemed to help with the cravings/temptations. I was still tempted, but it seemed easier to resist. God is so good! :D Another thing I realized today, is that I am sooooo like a toddler! God will show me a truth sometimes, like "don't eat when you are not hungry" and I'll go "OH, Ok God, thank you" then go about trying to do it in my own power. Like a little kid, "I DO IT MYSELF"...lol. Not anymore, that is NOT what I want. Jesus is my Daily Bread and I know "of myself I can do nothing". I don't care how thin I am, if I still have gluttony for a problem, it doesn't matter. I would be thin and MISERABLE! I will wait on God and let Him teach me in His timing. Amen. I only want His best for me.
Anyway, it's raining out this morning, so I need to take husband to work so I can have the car for Church, doesn't look like I'll be walking to Church today...lol. I will be back in after Church. Have a wonderful Sunday all! I appreciate you all sooooo much!!!!

Kelli
10-04-2009, 12:21 PM
Good Morning!

I can't tell you how excited I am about this support group! I know that I know, that I know, you will all be successful in your weight loss... How do I know??? Because, I know this study is from God, how do I know it's from God??? Because only God could have accomplished this.

Not long ago, I felt a desire to share the study, by posting it here (3FC), but I just couldn't believe that I could write something worthwhile. In fact when Ryann said something about me "having wisdom" (she is so sweet) I felt embarrassed, because I so do not have wisdom, that's why I know God is truly in this study. I hope you don't mind but I'm taking an excerpt from the very end of the study because I just want to share how special this is to me, and how humbled and grateful I am that God could use me.

When I read back through this study, I am shocked at what God has done! I have never been able to write or speak clearly. I used to have a boss, she had a gift of writing, she told me her idea of fun was to structure sentences??? Because I was so bad at writing, she asked me to let her review correspondence before I mailed them. I would dread taking it to her, because even though she was nice about it, I was humiliated, because the letters would always come back full of red inked corrections.

My spelling is atrocious, If I don’t have spell check, I am in big trouble. I’ve never really been tested, but I am sure I have learning disabilities in Math and English. To me they both are written in a different language. Noun, clause, pronoun, predicate, especially predicate… I have read the definition for predicate at least a dozen times and still have no Idea what the heck it is!!! I have tried and tried to make sure I am structuring the sentences I write properly. But I don’t speak grammar so how can I correct what I have written!

I had the privilege of being the Children’s Ministry Director at a church I was attending in Utah. The Pastors wife had been writing the Sunday school curriculum. She was trying to get four years worth, and then she would use them over for the next set of kids coming in, that way they never had the same lesson twice. She was almost finished and had only about a year left to do. It was becoming hard for her to fit in her schedule, because of the growth of the church and her involvement with Women’s ministry, so I felt God wanted me to take over the children’s curriculum. The Pastor and his wife felt that was a good idea too, until she started reading what I had written… I’m sure it was hard for the Pastor to make that phone call to tell me I was ruining what his wife had worked so hard on. It’s funny, that was the first time I had ever admitted to being a 7th grade drop-out to anyone but my family. When I told my Pastor, I was so humiliated about that. Now I am so proud of it. I tell everyone. It just shows what God can do.

My poor Mom used to read things I would write, and the whole time she was doing it, she would shake her head, with a half smiling, respelling a word to me or correcting a grammar mistake.

Needless to say I did not have a lot of confidence where my writing was concerned. It used to be, that every time I met another Christian who wrote well, I would think, maybe God brought this person into my life so they could take Flowers Over The Wall, and rewrite it. I asked my husband to help me rewrite it, he tried to help but he was going to school and just didn’t have time. I asked my gifted with words, youngest daughter Tayler to help me write it when she was only thirteen. It was way too overwhelming for her. I have looked up editors online (they are all very expensive). I thought my job was to compile the information and then God would send someone along to put it all together. One time while trying to think of a way to get the non-Christian boss I mentioned earlier, to rewrite it for me, God spoke to my heart and said, “I chose you to write the study, so the “you’s” of this world could read it”. In other words, God chose me, so other 7th grade dropouts, who have ADD with learning disabilities, could read and understand it.

One day, I was talking with my husband about my frustration in not being able to lose weight. I had been writing this study, I should say compiling this study, for over nine years, how could I have been studying a subject for nine years and still not “get it”. Todd (my husband) asked me, “Have you ever gone through and done your Bible study?” I was taken aback by his question. It never occurred to me that through all the study and the compiling of nine years, I had never actually done the study day by day. He suggested that I not edit it or make any changes, just study it as if someone else had written it.

I cannot express to you how shocked I was! I had just compiling stuff! If I heard a sermon or phrase that touched me, I would write it down, then throw it in the study where I thought it might fit. I was amazed at how the studies flowed together day by day! It wasn’t until I had gone through it that I realized I was actually writing the study and not just assembling information for someone else to write.

I know there are still a lot of grammar mistakes, I know I haven’t capitalized were I should have capitalized, or I have put too many or not enough commas. I know I have used a wrong word or tow, because I have depended on spell check, and it doesn’t fix things like when I am trying to say two instead of tow. I know it is full of little red and green squiggly lines, (if you use a word processing program with auto-spell check) But In my weakness I can boast that I know God will use my flaws to help others who, like me, have limitations. I am so surprised at what God has done and if you knew what kind of a writer I was, and how embarrassed I was of my writing you would be surprised too.

It is hard for me to grasp, that something I was so ashamed of (my writing) is the thing God used as my life’s work! And He proves that it doesn’t matter if you are a 7th grade drop-out with ADD, learning disabilities and Body dysmorphic disorder (really bad self esteem issues).who was abused, neglected, married at 14, divorced at 19, drug taking, suicidal, messy, and unorganized, person, can do all things through Christ!

God isn’t interested in your abilities, He is interested in your availability. If you tell God “you can’t” you are really saying “He can’t. It’s not about what you can or can’t do. Or even what you think you are gifted or non-gifted in.


I mentioned earlier how I was so reluctant to post this on 3FC, because I felt I couldn't write anything worthwhile, when God gave me this Scripture:

Psalm 19:7 7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;

I looked up synonyms for the word "Testimony", and it is "Authentication". So I have a this Scripture above my computer screen, but it says.

Psalm 19:7 7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul;
The authentication of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;

Just in case I start thinking it has anything to do with me again...

Sorry that was so long...

Now finally here is the Scripture or statement that most spoke to my heart from the study, it isn't actually from the study but from something Ryann wrote.

"Being overweight is NOT the problem and losing the excess weight is NOT the answer. The problem is "gluttony". (Overeating, Eating when you're not really hungry, anticipating food too much, being too eager to eat,taking food with too much eagerness, to gulp down or swallow (eating too fast), over-indulgence and over-consumption of food or drink to the point of waste, eating voraciously, to squander, a misplaced desire of food or its withholding from the needy, also consists of an anticipation of meals, delicacies, sneaking food, not wanting to share, eating in secret to be left alone and not bothered so you can "enjoy" it...which it never truly satisfies the soul - only God can satisfy our spirit. Also waiting for the "time" to eat or wanting your body to HURRY UP and get hungry so you can eat, eating too expensively, eating too daintily, eating wildly.)

I have been trying to figure out why I eat so fast (still am trying to quit that) and what is in the act of "swallowing" that makes it so irresistible???

When I do eat slow the feeling of the food in my mouth is sort of gross??? And I just can't wait to swallow it!

I think what God has been teaching me lately is "The whole avoiding the real issues in my life by zoning out and over eating is not just in the food going into my mouth, but the whole process of "dieting" the overwhelming thought process that goes into dieting, (weighing, measuring, counting calories, avoiding some foods, the highs that comes with success and starting something new, the lows and guilt that comes with failure.) All that thought and preparation helps us to avoid our real issues and overrides thoughts of what is really hurting, and it's easier than facing those feelings. I don't know if that made sense...

AAARRRGGGG! I just realized how long this is... I do go on and on don't I!!!

Love you all, I have to go get ready for church!

Kelli

Bootsie
10-04-2009, 12:36 PM
Good Morning Ryanne and all,
I started dieting when I was 10 years old and now today at 56 I still am dieting trying to loose that extra baggage. My Mother and Dad knew nothing about healthy eating and never taught me or tried to help me. I did not even realize I was fat for my age until I over heard my Mom , sister and brother-in-law making fun of me. I remember that day, Mom came back in the house and I was crying and she said what is wrong with you. I told her I over heard and she just laughed and said Well You are fat! Just left the room laughing. I was 10 and I sure could of used some help from my Mother to help me take control instead of feeding me a platter of french fries covered with gravy for breakfast. Hamburger and french fries for dinner and a chicken fried steak with all the trimmings for supper. That is what I had everyday almost, no wonder I was fat.I never ate sweets unless it was Thanksgiving or Christmas.

I know what gluttony is and yes I am a glutton, I know that and it is a never ending fight within me to gain control of my eating habits but I can do it, by feeding on the word of Jesus every day, it is getting easier. I also know that I don't have to eat everything on my plate and learning to choose more healthy foods, wish my Mom & Dad had learned that, they might still be around today or at least got to see their great grandchildren.

Today Jesus I am planting my seed of commitment, and release my faith unto you. I am weak in will power but I have learned that leaning to you and absorbing your word ,Jesus you make me stronger.I know that with you I can become a better person and loose all the weight I want too, but I have to do my part.Thank You for giving us new chances, and today is the start of a new chance to become the person you want me to be! I am your work in progress. Amen
I have two scales one says I weigh 6 pounds more than the other scale, hmmm I been going by the less scale it says i weigh as today 194, that means I gained 2 pounds yesterday, hmmm.. my other scale says I weigh 199. Instead of going with the lesser scale I think I am going to go with the one that says 199, now my goal for October is 7 pounds loss, if I loose more that is great but I am going to shoot for a 7 pound goal. That will be 5 pounds and those 2 I regained yesterday!

Ryanne
10-04-2009, 01:38 PM
But I am tired tired tired of people who are perfect writing perfect books! I know no one is perfect, but what I am saying is that a lot of people "act like" they have it all together, and they really don't then they write a book that they are an expert on "how to" and don't do it themselves, nor could they ever really keep up with it all anyway. I want real people with real struggles and real dependence on Jesus to learn from and to be called my friends.
Kelli, you wouldn't know by this study that you only have a limited education. I cannot get over the wisdom in this study! God is soooo good! The thing is I would rather have your study that is real and maybe has human flaws than to have something that is "perfectly" done and not give me anything I could use or need.
I like your study just the way it is, and when I see something spelled wrong, I smile! I LOVE IT! Jesus does, too!
Bootsie, we are not alone anymore, we have real victory, the lasting kind...Dare to HOPE, Bootsie! Believe! And God heal our unbelief, in Jesus' Name...Amen!
I love you guys!:D

Another thing, I want you to feel free to post and write all you want to, because that is how we learn. I want to glean all I can from you guys cuz I can use all the help I can get!!!

pattygirl63
10-04-2009, 04:35 PM
Great posts everyone.

As I read the Introduction and the words "UNCLEAN, UNCLEAN" and how people seem to think of us as unclean, John 15:3 came to me. Jesus said to his disciples "You are already clean because of the Word I have spoken to you". Yes I am over weight and obviously I eat more than my body needs, but I am not "unclean". I feel or have felt everything Kellie described in the lesson and that each of you have.

I was not over weight until I was 20 yeras old. Food never held a place of priority until then. I ate 2 meals a day and a snack was rare. I probably did not eat enough. I had fainting spells and no one, not even the doctor knew why. I gained weight when I started eating 3 meals a day + a shake at the drugstore each evening with my friends when I was in college. Still I was active enough that I didn't gain all that much and my clothes still fit.

When I went to live with my aunt, she insisted on 3 meals a day. That is when the yo-yo dieting started... 46 yrs ago. I would go to diet doctors and lose, but always gain it back and more. For years I would look at a diet and think, "that is too much food, I can't eat all that food. I'll gain weight". Even my thin sister-in-law said the same thing. She ate like I did when I was thin and she still was thin.

Looking at the diets, it didn't look like I was overeating. I joined Overeater's Anonymous and started a group in my home. My sister-in-law above used to say she didn't know why was in that group, she said "You are not an Overeater". Yes, I have become an overeater. When I started eating the way people say is "normal" eating, I started "overeating" for my body.

Bootsie I saw you mention to someone on Encouragers about Sugar Busters. I had that book years ago. Still have the book on tape somewhere, but it must be packed somewhere or got lost when we moved from FL to SC. I checked it out. That is basically the way I eat now. So I printed it out for some guidelines, because there is no way I can eat as much food as their Pyramid shows. Is the thread on 3fc where you go or on the Sugar Busters website? Didn't know whether to join because I will do it more along Intuitive Eating guidelines rather than theirs. I like the idea of eating when I'm hungry not because it is time to eat.

That brings me to another thought from something one of you mentioned earlier... Ryanne I think it was. No one diet fits all. Someone can give you a basic idea and it might work for them the way they tell people to do it, but there are some of us that cannot as I said earlier can not eat as much food as other people do. I am in the process of learning that just because it is on my plate doesn't mean I have to eat it all. In fact, I purposely leave at least one bite on my plate to teach me that I don't have to eat it all.

I recently realized that "diets" became my priority. It took up so much of my time that I had no time to read my Bible or anything else. I was constantly reading "diets". I could start a diet library with my own books that I have. God has to have FIRST place in my life and not a diet. One of the major things that I've learned from this Bible Study of Kellie's in the past 9 weeks or so is this. Satan tempted Eve in the garden with a piece of fruit and he has been tempting me with forbidden foods for 46+ years through "diets". Also, I just week in my BSF lessons, that when we were sinners, we did things the way the world did them, but now we are a New creation in Christ Jesus. Now we are supposed to learn to do things "God's Way". Thus these lessons.

Girls we've been trying things the old way "world's way" and nothing worked for us. Now through these lessons, God has given us a New Path to follow so that we can learn God's Way of losing the weight. I see it this way, who knows my body and its needs better than the One Who created it.

Kellie I agree. We will lose the weight doing this together. And as Bootsie God brought us all together. Since it is His doing, then He has the plan for each one of us as we lean on Him and put our complete trust in Him.

Sorry, I made mine too long too.

Small groups Bible study at church in a couple of hours so will go. Catch y'all tomorrow.

Have a great Sunday evening.

Oh I told a natural sister and an spiritual sister about our group. Hope they decide to come join us.

Ryanne
10-04-2009, 05:53 PM
Girls we've been trying things the old way "world's way" and nothing worked for us. Now through these lessons, God has given us a New Path to follow so that we can learn God's Way of losing the weight. I see it this way, who knows my body and its needs better than the One Who created it.



YUP! ;) One thing that I wanted to let you guys know, is that, I have been resisting temptation like gluttony still has me captive, and Jesus HAS ALREADY set us free! We need to walk in our freedom! So I need to change my mindset and say, I AM ALREADY FREE!!! Praise Jesus!

Kelli
10-04-2009, 07:19 PM
Church was so cool today, The Pastor was teaching on Mark 5:34 And He said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace, and be healed of your affliction.” It's about the woman who had an issue of blood for 12 years and she reached out and touched Jesus' hem.

He said this woman would be one step up from a leper. A woman on her period was considered unclean. He said the Bible says she spent all her money on quack doctors. He said one of the remedies of that day for hemorrhaging was to take the ashes of a ostrich egg, and carry it around with you. In the winter you carried it a leather pouch and a linen pouch in the summer. Or you could use a grain of barley dipped in donkey dung... Just weird stuff and she probably desperately tried everyone of them.

It reminded me of how it was with me before I stopped dieting. I had this affliction that made me feel out of sync with normal society, I tried all the crazy diets. The tomato juice and egg diet, the grapefruit diet, watermelon diet... Right now my unsaved sister is on the HCG diet which involves eating 600 calories a day for thirty days while giving yourself a daily injection of the urine of a pregnant woman!!!! seriously we are desperate.

The Pastor said, with all the throngs of people touching Jesus in the crowd, bumping and shoving, what was different about this woman's touch. He said she reached out and touched Him in faith. And Jesus said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace, and be healed of your affliction.”

I know God has healed me, I may get a little sidetracked sometimes and think I have to pick it back up and control it, but then He shows me to just trust Him with it.

You guys are posting such wonderful insights, we could write another study with all of them!!!

Bootsie
10-05-2009, 12:19 AM
Trish there is a Sugarbuster site and it is very private which I like I went there today and I do have the book. I have not got to post on their site yet they need to check me out and make sure I won't cause harm to their site. Ha! I really don't know how they go about that. I got the book at the garage sale for 25 cents saved about 20 dollars or more, most libraries have it.
I have been having a hard time posting , it would let me read but every time i tried to post I would loose the web site. It is the weather I am sure . I guess I better post before it does it again!

Ryanne
10-05-2009, 08:38 AM
Week 1 Day 2
The Diet
Day ___________________________ Date ___________________________

Start now:
Romans 7:4-25 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

Eat what you want:
The previous scriptures talk about how we are weak in our flesh, and how we try to make rules and follow them. We have diet and health rules, which seem to change daily. With this diet there are no rules, you can eat anything you want, if you want a candy bar for breakfast eat it! If you want another for lunch go ahead, if one for dinner, yes, go for it! I guarantee you won’t want another one for your next meal. This diet takes the attention off the food and places it on God. The more you focus on food the more you want it and it becomes an obsession.

God formed our bodies to know what they need. Because God created our taste buds, He knows our likes and dislikes, so don’t be afraid to have your favorites. Let the system God made for you take over. When I first started this program, I went crazy and had many small bites of everything I had denied myself for so long because I was so excited about my newfound freedom. You can eat anything you want! Jesus declared all foods clean!

READ: Mark 7: 18 –23 So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, 19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?” 20And He said, “What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.”

See, Jesus said in the above scripture, don’t focus on the food, focus on your spiritual health.

Slow down:
It takes approximately twenty minutes for your brain to sense you are satisfied and your blood sugars are replenished. If you eat slower, you will be able to recognize Gods built it cues. The cues are easy to recognize if you are paying attention and know what to look for. You start to notice the food doesn’t tastes as good, and you are feeling satisfied, when you say to yourself, "I think I'm getting satisfied", STOP EATING! That is God’s prompting, it’s at this time you have satisfied your body’s need for fuel and it’s time to stop eating, now! Don’t worry; you’ll be hungry again in three to four hours. It used to be when I would begin to feel this way, I’d start eating faster so I could be sure to get it all stuffed in before I got to full, that habit was a huge factor in maintaining my plump figure.

Don’t worry if you accidentally eat more than you need, God knows your heart. He understands your weakness and loves you. When I would catch my toddlers misbehaving, I would give them to the count of three to stop. I would start counting “one” and usually they would begin to pull away from the misdeed and turn towards me. I would never have punished my child if they had already turned and started towards me accidentally fell and couldn’t make it by the count of three. God is so much more merciful than we are. He knows when we are trying to be obedient.



Only Eat What You REALLY Like: Don’t eat anything you don’t like, and make sure you eat what you like the most, first. You are probably doing just the opposite and saving the best for last! Think about it, that’s setting you up to fail. You will need to retrain yourself to do the exact opposite. You will eat the juicy, sweet, most yummy items first and save the dry things, you don’t like as much for last.

I even eat my dessert right along with my meal. That way I don’t have to worry about saving room for it. You can’t tell when you’re going to get full and it won’t be as hard to stop if the food left on your plate is your least favorite.

Have you ever tried to eat a donut without the frosting? It tastes like bad white bread. It’s no big deal to let that part go. You should even eat your favorite parts of food within the food. I like to eat the crunchy salty crust off a fat French-fry first, and leave the soft mushy grainy stuff on my plate! I know this sounds extreme, but the point is, you should only eat what you really like. Don’t worry so much about wasting food. Have you ever watched a toddler eat? They haven’t learned the clean plate rule yet. They pick the food to pieces, eating only what they like. Don’t ever teach your kids “the clean plate” rule or your setting them up for a lifetime of weight issues.

The Bible says in Romans 14:20a Don’t destroy the work of God for the sake of food.

Read what God told an Old Testament king when he was worried about wasting money.

II Chronicles 25:5-9 Moreover Amaziah gathered Judah together and set over them captains of thousands and captains of hundreds, according to their fathers’ houses, throughout all Judah and Benjamin; and he numbered them from twenty years old and above, and found them to be three hundred thousand choice men, able to go to war, who could handle spear and shield. 6 He also hired one hundred thousand mighty men of valor from Israel for one hundred talents of silver. 7 But a man of God came to him, saying, “O king, do not let the army of Israel go with you, for the LORD is not with Israel—not with any of the children of Ephraim. 8 But if you go, be gone! Be strong in battle! Even so, God shall make you fall before the enemy; for God has power to help and to overthrow.”
9 Then Amaziah said to the man of God, “But what shall we do about the hundred talents which I have given to the troops of Israel?” And the man of God answered, “The LORD is able to give you much more than this.”

The food isn’t more valuable than your body. Look at what happed to the Israelites when they tried to save extra manna the manna turned to maggots!

Exodus 16:17-21 Then the children of Israel did so and gathered, some more, some less. 18So when they measured it by omers, he who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack. Every man had gathered according to each one's need. 19And Moses said, "Let no one leave any of it till morning.” 20Notwithstanding they did not heed Moses. But some of them left part of it until morning, and it bred worms and stank. And Moses was angry with them. 21So they gathered it every morning, every man according to his need. And when the sun became hot, it melted.

If you want to eat desert first, go ahead! I usually eat my desert with my meal, that way I know I can be sure I won’t be too full by the time I get to it. It’s ok to be excited about this newfound freedom. God designed your body to crave what it needs, that’s why you don’t like to eat leftovers three days in a row.

Trust God and soon you will learn how much food you should take, so you won’t waste as much. Don’t worry God doesn’t mind if you waste a little until you learn how much it takes to make you full. I know this because there are many instances in the Bible where God tells His children to destroy all the booty left after a battle. I am sure it seemed wasteful to them but was necessary to preserve the purity of Gods children, it’s the same with us. It’s more important we keep ourselves from the destruction of our bodies.

Beverages:
The only thing I would caution you on is sugary drinks. You should be careful about drinking them between meals, because they don’t really satisfy your hunger, yet are so high in calories. Between meals, you can drink diet soda, black coffee, tea, and if you like your tea and coffee sweetened, you can use one of the artificial sweeteners on the market, or you can drink a nice cold glass of ice water. Feel free to have sugar in your coffee with breakfast just don’t drink it all day. You should always consider sugary drinks part of the meal.

It’s hard to remember to drink at eight glasses of water a day, but it’s good for you. I have worked at Boy Scout camp for a number of summers, and you must stay hydrated. It is the difference between feeling lousy or feeling energized and good. I tend to mistake being thirsty or tired for being hungry. However don’t overdo it; drinking too much water can be bad for you as well, do all things in moderation.

Trust God, The Bible lets us know, our bodies “are fearfully and wonderfully made,” don’t make it too hard. There are no set rules, you are an individual and God will have a separate plan for each of us. Remember you are learning and God knows your heart.

Read Isaiah 55

In light of today’s study, what was the scripture or statement in today’s lesson that most spoke to your heart? __________________________________________________ ________
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What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? ____________________
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Rephrase the scripture or statement into an expression of faith_________________________
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Scripture to memorize this week

Isaiah 55:9 For as the _________ are higher than the ______, so are My _____ higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.

Ryanne
10-05-2009, 08:52 AM
Romans 7:4-25 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.



I want to comment on this part for right now, since God gave me an ephiphany on this just this morning. Then I want to get out for a walk. When husband is off to work, I will do the rest of the study.
I remember a few years ago when I had some revelation on this, as the Spirit grows stronger, the flesh gets weaker. My spirit is the "Real Me".
Well, I remember the feeling that I had that "He must increase and I must decrease". I had a root of rejection, so I thought that what that meant is that God didn't want me, even in my own body. I was sad, but I said "okay". I tried for a while, to do the things that I "thought" God would want, saying always, it is about Jesus, not about me. I was sad, but I knew that it was right. And I tried, then feeling rejected, I didn't stop loving God or anything, but I did go on a huge downward spiral after a huge spiritual high.
Anyway, God has been impressing to me that it is me WITH Christ, In Him...etc. Well, I am fasting snacking between meals for thirty days, to break the habit of it. This morning, I decided early that I will eat when I am hungry and fast snacking today and was asking God to help me.
When all of a sudden He showed me...."My spirit is the REAL ME! I was thinking my flesh was me and feeling sorry for myself in a way....feeling deprived, but what it is is the flesh feeling sorry for itself, because the flesh is NOT the "Real Me", it is the "godless human nature". The real me is my spirit, that is ME WITH CHRIST, ME IN CHRIST and HIM IN ME. God wants me with HIM. I am NOT rejected! God wants me with HIM. So we are in a war...spirit vs. flesh...and the way to win is to let our spirit be OVER our flesh and remember that is the real "US"... the flesh is just godless human nature.:dancer:

Kelli
10-05-2009, 11:08 AM
Good Morning!

God is so Good! The part of the lesson that spoke to me the most this morning was the same one that spoke to Ryann, even Paul had struggles. You think of him as the Strong apostle, but even he had struggles he had to give to God. When He says: "Wretchen man that I am, who will save me from this body of death, then he remembers... Oh yeah Thank God, it's not up to me". I will remember today, my weight loss is not up to me, it's up to Jesus.

Ryann Said
I want to comment on this part for right now, since God gave me an ephiphany on this just this morning.

I remember a few years ago when I had some revelation on this, as the Spirit grows stronger, the flesh gets weaker. My spirit is the "Real Me".
Well, I remember the feeling that I had that "He must increase and I must decrease". I had a root of rejection, so I thought that what that meant is that God didn't want me, even in my own body. I was sad, but I said "okay". I tried for a while, to do the things that I "thought" God would want, saying always, it is about Jesus, not about me. I was sad, but I knew that it was right. And I tried, then feeling rejected, I didn't stop loving God or anything, but I did go on a huge downward spiral after a huge spiritual high.
Anyway, God has been impressing to me that it is me WITH Christ, In Him...etc. Well, I am fasting snacking between meals for thirty days, to break the habit of it. This morning, I decided early that I will eat when I am hungry and fast snacking today and was asking God to help me.
When all of a sudden He showed me...."My spirit is the REAL ME! I was thinking my flesh was me and feeling sorry for myself in a way....feeling deprived, but what it is is the flesh feeling sorry for itself, because the flesh is NOT the "Real Me", it is the "godless human nature". The real me is my spirit, that is ME WITH CHRIST, ME IN CHRIST and HIM IN ME. God wants me with HIM. I am NOT rejected! God wants me with HIM. So we are in a war...spirit vs. flesh...and the way to win is to let our spirit be OVER our flesh and remember that is the real "US"... the flesh is just godless human nature.

Ryann, this is so cool! It's funny God showed me the same thing about the flesh shrinking and the spirit growing, and I also had a root of rejection. You will find many of the lessons in this study deals with this especially the later ones (it took God awhile to show me this).

It's hard to rip the flesh off of our hearts, it's an emotional battle, but then Jesus gives us such precious jewels such as your ephiphany in the midst of them and when you look back you realize you were so close to Jesus during those times of fasting. I will be praying for your fast! (You may want to read ahead, to Week 12 day 2, Fasting to Feast and Week 10 day 1, The Circumcised Heart, if you are fasting)

Girls we've been trying things the old way "world's way" and nothing worked for us. Now through these lessons, God has given us a New Path to follow so that we can learn God's Way of losing the weight. I see it this way, who knows my body and its needs better than the One Who created it.

Whoohoo, let's GO, I'm READY!!! :carrot:

Have a wonderful day!

Love, Kelli

Bootsie
10-05-2009, 11:43 AM
Trust God and soon you will learn how much food you should take, so you won’t waste as much. Don’t worry God doesn’t mind if you waste a little until you learn how much it takes to make you full. I know this because there are many instances in the Bible where God tells His children to destroy all the booty left after a battle. I am sure it seemed wasteful to them but was necessary to preserve the purity of Gods children, it’s the same with us. It’s more important we keep ourselves from the destruction of our bodies.

Girls I am sorry but I cannot eat everything my taste buds like, that is all that is to that. If I eat sweets I have what I call a sweet tooth hang-over, sick as a dog, the next day! If I eat hot peppers like my Mom and granddaughter does then my belly burns! If I eat macaroni, it seems to stick to my hindquarters like glue! Also I have found that sugar, macaroni , seem to give me water gain, and blow up my belly like a balloon. So I have to beware of those foods ! I truly believe if Jesus wanted me to be able to eat these foods I would not have these conditions. So I am sticking to what I have to stick to; in order to not destroy my body.

The Lord is more real today than he was in my life 10 years ago and I thought then I could not love him any more but I do. Gluttony is a spiritual problem I do have but day by day I am conquering it and gaining control over it with Jesus guiding my steps to take. Everyone have a great day!

Ryanne
10-05-2009, 11:59 AM
Girls I am sorry but I cannot eat everything my taste buds like, that is all that is to that. If I eat sweets I have what I call a sweet tooth hang-over, sick as a dog, the next day! If I eat hot peppers like my Mom and granddaughter does then my belly burns! If I eat macaroni, it seems to stick to my hindquarters like glue! Also I have found that sugar, macaroni , seem to give me water gain, and blow up my belly like a balloon. So I have to beware of those foods ! I truly believe if Jesus wanted me to be able to eat these foods I would not have these conditions. So I am sticking to what I have to stick to; in order to not destroy my body.


Bootsie, I agree with you. I don't eat certain things either. What you eat and what you drink is for your body's benefit and to the glory of God. I have to avoid saturated fats, too much salt and too much sugar, I am believing God that I am healed, but I am on medication for hypothyroidism, high blood pressure, high triglycerides and high bad cholesterol, my good cholesterol is too low. I also take an antidepressant for anxiety disorder. So I know what I should and shouldn't eat. I also believe that the quality of foods has deteriorated in the last hundred years and that our ancestors did not have to deal with chemicals and bovine growth hormone and antibiotics and pesticides in their foods. I am careful about things like that. I believe what I eat is for the glory of God, I do this for me and my family, I believe that Kelly will eat what is on her heart to eat, Trish will eat the way God would have her eat and Bootsie, you eat the foods God put on your heart. I avoid alcohol to the glory of God, but some people drink wine to the glory of God. I believe all foods are clean, cuz that it what Jesus said, and all things are "legal" for us to do, but not all things are "helpful". I have bowel problems, so I need to know what things can help or hurt me, too. I know that I cannot tolerate caffeine or artificial sweeteners...(Thanks alot diet soda all week!!! I am paying for it today!!! I had quite forgotten what they do to me!) Bootsie, You do what you feel is right for you. That is not what the study is really about. Yes there are dietary things in the study, but just as I said before, I don't believe that what we eat or drink is one size fits all...I believe that God has a specific plan for each of us. Your sugar busters is good if that is what God is showing you. I read that book a long time ago and there is a lot of sound advice there. I still have to avoid too much sugar. In fact, the Bible warns us to not "eat too much honey" which is sweets! So YOU GO GIRL!!! I love you, Bootsie!:hug:

Ryanne
10-05-2009, 02:21 PM
It's hard to rip the flesh off of our hearts, it's an emotional battle, but then Jesus gives us such precious jewels such as your ephiphany in the midst of them and when you look back you realize you were so close to Jesus during those times of fasting. I will be praying for your fast! (You may want to read ahead, to Week 12 day 2, Fasting to Feast and Week 10 day 1, The Circumcised Heart, if you are fasting)

Love, Kelli

Thanks Kelli. Ya, God is so good, because your post was confirmation. I am not going to comment on the rest of the Bible Study as the only things that really stood out to me, I have commented on, with my reply to Bootsie's post being the other thing.
I am so glad you are all here! Makes it so fun and interesting to see what God is doing in all of our lives.
:yes:

Kelli
10-05-2009, 10:36 PM
Howdy!

Hey Bootsie and everyone else... I Just want you to know when I wrote the "Diet" portion of this study, ten years ago, and I wrote it when I thought it was just for my foster daughter Mylissa and me (she was a teenager) This is the diet I felt God wanted for me and Mylissa, but you do what God tells you to do. So I hope you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. There are a lot of good scriptures in here, and unless it is something that is just goes against the Bible (which I would really hope someone would bring to my attention!!!) then just skip over it if it doesn't apply to you ;).

I think the whole point is to not use the weighing and counting and everything else that goes into dieting as a distraction from your real pain. That pain needs to be addressed with Jesus. I know the pain I was trying to avoid with the whole process of dieting was the feeling that I just wasn't quite as good as the rest of the people on earth. Like Ryanne I had felt rejected by God, because I hated myself so much. I used dieting, measuring, weighing, nonfat everything.... all the stuff that goes with dieting as a distraction so that it would be at the front of my brain and not the pain that was just to hurtful to deal with. My being overweight was less painful than feeling like I had to try twice as hard to be half as good as everyone else.


Girls I am sorry but I cannot eat everything my taste buds like, that is all that is to that. If I eat sweets I have what I call a sweet tooth hang-over, sick as a dog, the next day! If I eat hot peppers like my Mom and granddaughter does then my belly burns! If I eat macaroni, it seems to stick to my hindquarters like glue! Also I have found that sugar, macaroni , seem to give me water gain, and blow up my belly like a balloon. So I have to beware of those foods ! I truly believe if Jesus wanted me to be able to eat these foods I would not have these conditions. So I am sticking to what I have to stick to; in order to not destroy my body.


This is good you do it the way God tells you!!! Someday I will fix the Study to say that :dizzy: I just seem to be soooo busy, I'm sorry...

Well got to go eat dinner! Homemade hamburger soup with homemade noodles... YUM!

pattygirl63
10-05-2009, 11:44 PM
Hi Ladies,

I came in here with some ideas earlier and Hubby's pc messed up and I had to come off line. So now I can't remember all I was going to say but will try.
I won't make quotes this time since it is late.

I do not bring certain foods into the house that I cannot handle. However, as of late I have noticed that when I do eat some of those foods that they just do not taste the same. I realized yesterday that I actually eat pretty much along the lines of Sugar Busters. That is why I asked Bootsie about it. It is strange that Tony likes chips so we buy them for him, but they do not hold an interest to me any more. There was I time I could eat a whole big bag in one sitting all by myself. Ate a piece of white bread a few weeks ago and it was terrible. Ate a hamburger at McDonald and couldn't stand the taste of white bun. So tastes do change. I believe God is changing my tastes.

I used to say Psalm 103:5 as a confessed prayer making it personal, don't remember the translation "He satisfies my mouth with good things so that my youth is renewed like the eagle". I did this believing God would change my desires to good foods rather than junk. I honestly believe it is working.

I wanted to say something I thought of concerning something Ryanne said. It goes along with what I saw in the first scripture on the lesson. Romans 7 when Paul says "but I am carnal". See I knew I was to re-read these lessons and do them with y'all because what stood out to me today was not what spoke to me when I did the lesson in August. This hit me because of the Sunday night study at church goes with it.

Before we were born again, we were carnal. We did everything to please our worldly, flesh desires. When we accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior, the Holy Spirit came in to live in us. Of course, I know you know this. What hit me is this. When we are born again, we become a new creation... a child of God. But we are babies and Paul told the Corinthians that they were carnal Christians who should have been eating meat, but he could only feed them milk. They were saved, but had not grown spiritually still acted like they did before they were born again. We are all growing at different levels in different areas. I don't think we ever dreamed that God wanted to teach us how to feed our bodies. What brought me to the the fact that He wanted to do this is when I realized that I was not supposed to live like the world or seek advice from it for my spiritual life so then I wondered why I did this with diets.

The goal of my Pastor in our church is for us to learn God's Way of doing things. Pastor drew a heart on the board Sunday night and wrote Holy Spirit in it. Then he showed how there are areas in our hearts that needed to be changed so the Spirit can fill those areas, but that we have to ask the Holy Spirit to change us and give those areas of our heart to Him, because God never forces us. As we give Him control and surrender those areas to Him, then He begins the work that needs to be done to change us. I believe that I have used food to fill that area instead of letting the Lord have that place. For one thing I thought "I" had to do it all, I didn't know He wanted to be Lord over the area of deciding what I eat.

We are His workmanship and He has brought each one of us all together because He has been preparing us for this time. If we will be faithful to trust him and give Him control while doing what He shows us to do, we will succeed. However, this time when we succeed it will be a sweet success, because we will get to our normal weight and stay there because this time we will have done it God's Way and He will be glorified through the testimony we will have of what He did for us and through us.

Till tomorrow. Good night.

Kelli
10-06-2009, 12:11 AM
but that we have to ask the Holy Spirit to change us and give those areas of our heart to Him, because God never forces us. As we give Him control and surrender those areas to Him, then He begins the work that needs to be done to change us. I believe that I have used food to fill that area instead of letting the Lord have that place. For one thing I thought "I" had to do it all, I didn't know He wanted to be Lord over the area of deciding what I eat.

Wow! Trish, amen! That's exactly what I was doing with my dieting, filling that place in my heart. I also thought I wanted it so much for some reason I thought is was selfish to ask God to help me with it. But that's what He want's isn't it... Total surrender.

Thank you...

Ryanne
10-06-2009, 12:45 AM
God is good! I am so glad for all the wisdom of this group. May God Bless you mightily! All of you. :D

Kelli
10-06-2009, 07:32 AM
Exposing Strange Doctrines

Day ___________________________ Date ___________________________


We have a tendency to rely on the so-called dieting experts, and God is the last place we go for diet advice. We pray and ask God for help in following the diet of the week, but why? If you think about it, God is the one who formed our bodies, and spoke the world into existence. Don’t you think it’s time we discover what the only true authority has to say about it?

Read Hebrews 13:8-9 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
Answer the following questions:
• Who is the same yesterday, today, and always? __________

• What do you think established by grace means? ______________________________
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The dictionary defines establish as 1: to institute permanently, 2: to put upon a firm basis.
Grace is defined as 1: unmerited help given to people by God (as in overcoming temptation) 2: freedom from sin by divine Grace.

Remember in the last study we read, Mark 7: 18 –23 So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, 19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?” 20And He said, “What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.”

• Do you think if God was going to change the food and make certain foods like fat, sugar, and breads unclean for the modern world, He would have left it out of the Bible? _________

Remember God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

List all the diets you can remember being on.
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(Use more paper if needed)

Do you remember each of these diets and their premise? Was it a counting calories, food exchanges, eating more fat, eating less fat, eating more carbohydrates or eating less? Was it eating a little or eating a lot? Was it eating only certain foods at certain times of the day? Drinking a lot of water with your food, or don’t drink water with your food, eat all protein. No! That will make you sick and you could die, but he was a doctor!?

It’s exhausting, each of these experts claimed to have the truth and the only truth. Most of them claiming the reason all the others had failed was because you were not counting calories or you needed food exchanges or you needed to eat more carbohydrates, or you’re eating too many carbohydrates and not enough fat, and so on and so on…

Read the previous scripture again: Hebrews 13:8-9 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

Doctrine simply means "Something that is taught". When you think about your dieting history, does it seem as if you were being carried away by strange doctrines? _____________

Most diets focus on food; this creates a strong love and desire for it because it’s the focal point. The Bible says, “We do not profit by being occupied with foods, but it’s good for the heart to be established by grace.” By focusing on God and His love, we are established by grace, not what we can or cannot eat.

We have been working on the wrong problem when we diet, because we are trying to change the food we normally eat. We go to a whole lot of trouble, making ourselves different meals than our families, weighing it and counting the calories, etc. The whole time we are focusing on the food. We need to recognize the real problem. The food can’t be responsible for your weight. We don’t need to change the food we need change our hearts, our attitude.

Let’s say you do lose weight on one of these methods, you will still have the anxiety you have always had about your weight, but instead of worrying about being overweight, you will be anxious about gaining it back. Your thoughts will still be obsessed with food, fat, calories, etc. Being thin will not make you happy, you will still yearn for and desire food.

Start concentrating on your relationship with God and not the substance of the food. Pray and ask God to help you become established by grace, and to help you to focus on Him, by the truth of His word.

God will deliver you from the bondage of food, it’s up to you how long it takes, it can take four months, or forty years. You can wander in the desert with half a commitment or you choose today to go straight to the Promised Land, by faith.

Colossians 2:8-10 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.

Do you think God is able to help you lose weight? _________________________________
Why do you feel that way? __________________________________________________ __
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READ: Matthew. 7:7-12

In light of today’s study, what was the scripture or statement in today’s lesson that most spoke to your heart? __________________________________________________ ________
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What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? ____________________
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Rephrase the scripture or statement into an expression of faith_________________________
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Isaiah 55:9 Isaiah 55:9 For as the _________ are _______ than the ______, so are My _____ higher than _______ ways, And My ________ than your thoughts.

Ryanne
10-06-2009, 10:53 AM
We all seem to have been on every "diet" under the sun...oh my. One thing that I laugh about, but have always done with worldly diets...is..."Why is the first thing someone does, when they go on a diet, is to "GO SHOPPING for Food?" LOL...such an oxymoron...when you think about it, it's kind of sad really. We are gluttons, and we want to lose weight but still be able to EAT as much or more than we want! That definitely is not God's way. Denying the flesh isn't easy at first, but the fruit of having the spirit built up is sooooo worth it.
I can't tell you how many things I have tried to lose weight, from anorexia to bulemia to cabbage soup to you name it! It is frustrating and obsessive.
I am so much happier now, having given it to God. I want God in control of every aspect of my life!
One thing God has shown me and I have had revelational knowledge about for a while, I want to share with you. The Bible says we are "changed from glory to glory". Well, God showed me that as we spend time with Him and we are in His presence, that is His glory. So the time spent with Him, is time He spends changing us, so each time we are in His Glory, we are changed." I want to spend all the time with Him I can. I sure want Him to change me, for I know that in my flesh there is nothing good.
:woohoo:

pattygirl63
10-06-2009, 11:05 AM
Good Morning Girls

I am up early for a change haven't even had my cup of tea yet. Wanted to check here and see what is going on. I was so late posting last night decided to hit it first thing.

The title of todays lesson is what hit me today. Strange Doctorines Never thought about diets being "strange doctorines". First we have to remember that "doctrine" means "teachings". So it makes sense to me that we have been duped into not realizing that "Diets" are or can be "strange doctrines". Stop and think about diets and how Satan has used it against us... especially us women just as he did Eve. First, we are convinced that we have to look a certain way to be "beautiful" and the promise that the "diet" is going to make that happen. My Grandmother always told me that beauty is skin deep and her favorite saying to me was "Remember Patricia 'Pretty is as pretty does'". She said it so much I thought it was written for me.

I've always said that if I hadn't tried a diet, it was only because I hadn't heard of it. Kellie named one or two in the intro that I'd never heard of. Don't know how I missed them. :dizzy: More people have made loads of money off of me, as I've said before I could start a "diet" library. What is deceptive about them? Well I remember one day telling my husband, "I don't know what to do any more. There are so many diets and ideas out there and they all claim they have the answer. One diet says don't eat carbs, one says don't eat meat, or don't eat fat... eat margarine, no eat butter and the list goes on and on and on". Then the word that flashed in my mind was CONFUSION, CONFUSION like a neon sign. Isn't this what Satan does? He wants to keep us in total confusion. When we are in a state or spirit of confusion, we get frustrated and we end up doing nothing because some of us give up because we don't know what to do. I almost did this last spring.

I thank God that He has never let me totally give up. I've just always believed that if I would keep trying and trust God that some how He would lead me to the right thing. Now I know He was trying to tell me to give it to Him and let Him teach me how to do things. I never dreamed it was that simple. Give it to Him and Let Him teach me? Didn't Jesus say He was giving us the Holy Spirit to teach us all things? ALL THINGS? WOW, I didn't know He meant what to eat and how to eat it? I just thought He meant spiritual things. Duh!

I remember one Sunday night at Bible study, the pastor was talking about how he ate. He said "I only eat 2 meals a day and some days I may forget to eat and not eat that much. He said I've always eaten that way, if I didn't I would weigh over 200 lbs." I thought, that is how I ate growing up. What changed? Well, Mother's/women are taught how to feed their families. I had a dietician friend I had one time make up a diet for me. I told my husband, I can't eat all that food? She had me eating 3 huge meals and 3 snacks. That was about 30 or 40 years ago. She had a weight problem. No wonder if she ate the way she was telling me to eat. She was a precious Christian friend who was duped into thinking she had to eat that way to be healthy. I went to a dietician when I had diabetes 2 years ago and she was giving me the same diet my friend had. I knew right then that if I ate the way she wanted me to eat that I would die. So I never went back to her.

My chiropractor told me last year. "Stop dieting. They don't work". My first thought was what do I do? This is hard for me to say or admit, but diets were my god. They took priority over everything. I have set back and wouldn't go to church or to eating functions because I needed to lose weight. You know that senario. I'm sure we've all let our weight hold us back from things we wanted to do but felt we couldn't do. My husband doesn't understand how I feel about our prayer ministry. I told him that I was glad they finally took our names out of the announcements and just put the email address. He said well what are you going to do when the Pastor asks us to stand to remind people who we are? I said "I'll do that I just don't want to be on the spotlight all the time. Maybe it is false humility". As I read this, I realize it always goes back to me being so overweight. I feel like people think I should have more willpower or do something. It has nothing to do with pride or humility... it has to do with being ashamed or feeling bad about how I look. I always dress nice and look nice, but I feel like all people see is "she is fat". Never had anyone say that to me. But as Ryanne or Kellie said I've heard the jokes and heard what people say so I guess I figure everybody probably feels the same way. Enough of that,

What really hit me about the heart illustration the Pastor did the other night was... he marked off a lot of areas in the heart (he didn't name them) and then he said, "As we give Him control of this area (and he erased it), then the Holy Spirit comes in and fills that area." Then Pastor said something that really hurt my heart, he said "When we will not let the Holy Spirit have an area of our heart (Iassume this means when He is dealing with us in an area) because we want to hold on to it, we grieve the Holy Spirit". Boy, it hit me like a ton of bricks. Am I grieving the Holy Spirit when I look to food for comfort or when I look to man to give me another diet to follow instead of allowing Him to lead me and teach me how to get the victory over this area of my life?

He wants to teach me ALL THINGS even how to eat, because that is what Jesus sent Him to me to do. What a revelation. I've had Him in a little box over here that says "spiritual" things only. Never realized this is spiritual growth. It is denying the flesh; dieing to self. It is time for me to let Him out of the box and let Him do His job and just surrender to it. This is called "spiritual" growth.

I remember something my Mama told me when I was pregnant. She said, "Now you are going to learn what surrender means. When it comes time for this baby to be born, all you can do is just let it happen because it is going to be born and you can't do anything but go through it. That is surrender". I've never forgotten that. So now it is time to Surrender and let the Holy Spirt show me how to do this "God's Way".

I thank God for teaching Kellie how to do this and leading her to us. I thank you Kellie for not only listening to Him, but for sharing it with us.

You girls have a BLESSED day in the Lord.

pattygirl63
10-06-2009, 11:14 AM
We all seem to have been on every "diet" under the sun...oh my. One thing that I laugh about, but have always done with worldly diets...is..."Why is the first thing someone does, when they go on a diet, is to "GO SHOPPING for Food?" LOL...such an oxymoron...when you think about it, it's kind of sad really. We are gluttons, and we want to lose weight but still be able to EAT as much or more than we want! That definitely is not God's way. Denying the flesh isn't easy at first, but the fruit of having the spirit built up is sooooo worth it.
I can't tell you how many things I have tried to lose weight, from anorexia to bulemia to cabbage soup to you name it! It is frustrating and obsessive.
I am so much happier now, having given it to God. I want God in control of every aspect of my life!
One thing God has shown me and I have had revelational knowledge about for a while, I want to share with you. The Bible says we are "changed from glory to glory". Well, God showed me that as we spend time with Him and we are in His presence, that is His glory. So the time spent with Him, is time He spends changing us, so each time we are in His Glory, we are changed." I want to spend all the time with Him I can. I sure want Him to change me, for I know that in my flesh there is nothing good.
:woohoo:

Ryanne-I agree 100%. I think that is another reason why dieting is so bad for me. I spent so much time with the diets that took away from the time I had with the Lord. I often wondered about the kings in the old testament who would turn to God but never tear down the idol worship area in the high places. I have come to believe that those things represent the things in our lives that takes up our time that should be used for the Lord. I didn't think of it that way, but now think unknowingly I allowed diets to became one of those idols in my life. It was easy to do, because I think everyone I know is on some kind of diet. Thank God we are learning how to kick that out of our lives.

Ryanne
10-06-2009, 12:44 PM
unknowingly I allowed diets to became one of those idols in my life. It was easy to do, because I think everyone I know is on some kind of diet. Thank God we are learning how to kick that out of our lives.

I know now that diets and the desire to be thin were definitely gods to me...food, too. I, like you, spent so much time and energy learning all I could about foods, calories, nutrition, and exercise...it now makes me so sad. I could write a book with all the "knowledge" I have...but what good would it do anyone? Like you said, we have all this knowledge, but it all leads to confusion. Who is the author of confusion? Of course, Satan is. Thank God He is MERCIFUL and loves us and when we hurt, He hurts, when we don't understand, it hurts but God uses this for His Glory, we cannot glory in the flesh or in any diet or eating plan, the Only thing that we can glorify is GOD, and that is how it should be!
I remember once, I wrote a heart wrenching post here at 3FC on how I was sooooo tired of being "OBSESSED". I was at rock bottom with the world's way, even though I had been seeking God about this, I looked to this plan and that plan, and I remember telling God that I don't know what to do, I wanted to do it His way, because my way is not working and all these things are just temporary fixes. I don't want to be thin enough to still be in bondage, I want to be FREE! There is no sense being thin if I am still a glutton or an idol worshipper. Which is funny, because "THIN" seems to have been the most important thing to me, which is idolotry...I didn't care "HOW" I got there, I just wanted there in any way I could get there...and as fast as possible. To be honest, and I do hate to admit this, but I equated thin with "problem free" and "happiness". I would finally be accepted and invited places and my marriage would work. Everything would be perfect.
I would look at thin, beautiful women and girls and think "if they look like that, how could they have any problems?" I really believed that. I was taught a big lesson on this. Just because your body size changes and you maybe look beautiful, you are still human and you still have human problems.
A little story...I had been doing this way of eating with God, and was going along good, until I started doing it "my way"...I didn't realize I took over, at the time. I started over exercising trying to do it in my own power.
Well, I had lost a lot of weight, I don't know how much I lost, because I had thrown the scale out. But I had gotten down to a 10/12 from a 22 or so. Anyway, I became involved with the prayer team at my Church and was trying to get more involved, as I thought, "now I will be acceptable and will make good Godly friends"...well, that didn't happen, really. The only "friend" I did meet was a lady that wanted to "use" me and my husband. I allowed her to use me I should say...and allowed her to use my husband because I really wanted good Christian friendship, and I thought that doing things for others was the way to get this friendship...so I allowed her to give us a dog...big mistake...that dog chewed up our outside wiring, and the phone lines...it was bad...we gave that dog to someone who really loved him. My husband did so much yard work for this lady, it was ridiculous, he trimmed trees and hauled wood...exhausting work on top of his already exhausting job. My husband was abusive with me and my son,(my son was from a previous marriage, in which my husband was murdered, so my "new husband" felt I didn't really love him because I was mourning the death of my son's father.) So I thought because I had lost weight and was going to Church and was on the prayer team, that my husband would suddenly love me. I had two daughters with him, and he always acted like they were his, and not mine. That my son was mine, but the girls were his. He despised me.
One day in Church he made a big abusive scene and walked out of the Church, but he made a big show of going out the door by the pulpit so everyone could see! I was humiliated. I was crying and embarrassed. It was hard.
Finally I stopped the prayer team, I stopped going to Church and I stopped trying to lose weight, I gave up...I was exhausted in trying to lose weight, and it didn't give me the peace and happiness I was seeking.
Only God could. I didn't realize at the time that was what was going on, though, you know we are human and we grow.
I grew up in an abusive home, I was the youngest of ten children, my mother never wanted me, and tried several times to abort me because I was a conception of rape because she already wanted out of the marriage. She did leave when I was 11 months old, and left my dad to raise all of us kids. I was young, but I remember a lot from that time. I remember seeing my daddy crying and he was soooo sad. I remember him sexually abusing me and my sister, who is a year older than I. I remember being in my crib and her pleading at me with her eyes to make him stop, and I remember feeling so helpless. I felt terrible. I allowed my dad to physically abuse me over him beating the other kids, I couldn't stand to see them hurt, so I would beg him to beat me instead so I didn't have to see their pain.
He would make us line up for spankings and he was not a little man, he was 6 feet tall and 300 lbs. He was an angry giant.
We had so many abusive housekeepers, too...but one in particular came when I was about a year and a half old, and my dad couldn't afford to pay her and was about to lose all of us to the state, so he asked her to marry him, and she did. I was 2. She didn't care about us, she made sure our physical needs were met, but emotionally we had no one. She would beat us, make us eat like dogs off the floor, tie us up, it was terrible. Then when my dad came home from work, she would tell him which one of us needed a beating. I could tell he didn't really want to do this, but he did anyway, to keep her happy. When my dad was enraged, it was a beating for whoever was near, he was beaten by his mother, she had mental problems but my grandpa didn't want to institutionalize her...he later had to, but while my dad and his brothers and sisters were growing up, they endured her abuse as did my grandpa.
My step-mother did not help us when she saw our dad being sexually inappropriate with us. She just ignored it and never helped us.
Anyway, I carried a lot of insecurities over into my adulthood and I know God is still helping me with that...and well, I know this time that when my body size changes, that is all that changes, is body size. My body will be healthier, but as for any problems in life, that belongs to God. My ONLY NEED is JESUS DAILY! Now I want nothing more that My God to be MY ONLY GOD...and I will not have any idols before Him.
I will let go of what lies behind and press on to what lies ahead. Knowing God will reward me and I want my life to give HIM glory!:)

Additional note: I did leave that husband.

Bootsie
10-06-2009, 06:31 PM
Oh Rayne, my heart cry's for what you have been through. Bless your heart.

"Old things are passed away;behold, all things are become new"

pattygirl63
10-06-2009, 07:33 PM
Ryanne:hug: I had a rough time growing up myself, but nothing like what you had. Never sexual. The person who abused me more emotionally than anything else, today is saved and we have a beautiful relationship in Christ Jesus. No one should have to go through any of those things especially what you did. The devil is so mean and our precious Father God is so Good. I am so glad that God brought you out of those situations and you are such a precious person inspite of it all. I think it is so wonderful how God loves us so much that He brings us through such bad situations and some how turns our life into something absolutely beautiful in Christ. I pray God will always bless you with good things, girl.

Ryanne
10-06-2009, 09:09 PM
Though those things happened to me and my sisters and brothers, God has really helped me to overcome all of that. I am grateful to Him for that, and I have met many people who have been through worse. I thank God that I can understand how they feel, and I really know their pain, because a lot of people don't understand how much it hurts down to the core of your being and people then behave in a way that others don't or can't understand.
It has helped me to be able to minister to those people and to pray for them and not judge their behavior, for I have been through a very lot and my behavior wasn't right either, but I didn't know how else to be.
People who are hurting hurt people even when they don't want to. My dad and my step mom are still on this earth. I was able to lead my step mother to the Lord, and I am still praying for my dad. He has dimentia, cancer, has had several heart surgeries and diabetes, he has an amputated finger and both legs. He has macular degeneration and cannot see. They both still have mean streaks, and I have really had to keep my children away from them, but I can honestly pray for them and I really do want the best for them.
I know they were hurt while they were growing up, and our resources today are more prevalent to stop the cycle of abuse with our own children than what they knew.
My children have some issues because of the man I married, the girls' father, but they all have a relationship with him and try to include him in activities.
The thing is God can and does trade our ashes for beauty and I am living proof of that mercy and grace and unfailing love.
I didn't write that for anyone to feel sorry for me, I wanted to share that no matter what we go through, God is God and He will turn things around...and if HE is so good to me, I sure don't want to insult Him by having other gods before Him.
;)

pattygirl63
10-06-2009, 10:12 PM
Ryanne I understand what are saying. I can't say I know totally you're feelings except from my own situation. When I learned all the person had experienced and the hurts and fears they had gone through, I found it easy to forgive. I also learned that there wasn't anyone that I knew that I would want to go to ****. I have no enemy I would wish that on. So I rejoice with you because of how the Lord has and probably continues to heal you and use you at the same time. God is so Good. And I pray with you that your Dad will accept the Lord before he leaves this world.

Kelli
10-06-2009, 10:20 PM
Our dearest sweet beautiful Ryann, we so don't feel sorry for you, we feel AMAZED and blessed by you!!!! Look at what God has done! Your Insides are so much prettier than Angelina Jolie's outside is. I bet the angels are amazed at your beauty (I believe they can see the real beauty of us, our spirit). Thank you so very much for sharing with us, it just shows what our wonderful God can for a precious child that could have been so broken. THANK YOU JESUS!!!!

Trish, your beautiful insights so bless me! I would one day like to share this study with people at my church, but I want you all to come with me, because you are so amazing.

Bootsie, you shared how you were hurt as a child also, it's pretty obvious that when we overeat, diet, etc... any addiction really it's from pain.

Like Trish said at the beginning, it's time we stopped letting ourselves be hurt, we are not victims, we are Victorious Warriors of the ALMIGHTY GOD of HEAVEN and EARTH!!! WOOHOO :cheer3::cheer2::grouphug:

Ryanne
10-07-2009, 08:37 AM
Week 1 Day 4
Do You Want to Be Healed?
Day ___________________________ Date ___________________________

Do you want to be healed? It’s a simple question, and the one Jesus asked of almost every person He healed. So I am asking you to carefully consider this question, DO— YOU—WANT—TO—BE—HEALED? Yes or No

If your answer is no, read through this day then I’ll ask again. If your answer is yes, you need to make the commitment right now, not the commitment to go on another diet, but to change the way you have been thinking for years.

I want to tell you a story that may help you understand why you need to make this commitment. It is a true story about a dear friend of mine. I love my friend but at a young age, she started an unhealthy relationship with an abuser. This abuser was a bully and had no mercy; she would put her down at every turn. The bully would say, “You are stupid you only have a seventh grade education, you’re a loser, you will never lose weight, and you have tried dieting so many times and have never been successful. Your fine for two or three weeks, then you run out of gas, what makes you think this time is different”?

She would make rude comments on the way my friend looked. She would say, “You have huge pores in your nose and a big white, blubbery, pasty, stomach.” She would constantly tell her she was ugly, every single time she caught sight of her she would tell her she was repulsive. It was brutal, and constant, every time my friend had a success the bully would knock her down. Every time my friend was in a social situation, the bully would point out all her faults. She would tell the other people at the party that my friend was fat.

I think the bully in her own sick way was trying to protect my friend, because she would tell my friend “they won’t accept you if you don’t show them you know your not as good as they are, If I build them up by putting you down they might like you.” Then when my friend and the bully were alone, she would berate her for all the stupid things she said at the party.

People who were close to my friend would try to tell her the bully was wrong, but my friend didn’t believe anything good about herself. She had listened to the bully to long. The bully drove her to the brink of suicide. She tried to kill herself three times but thank God, she wasn’t successful.

Do you think my friend could ever be successful as long as she continued the relationship with the bully? ________Why or why not ______________________________
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No matter how much self-esteem you have if you are constantly told you are bad, you start to believe it. What do you think happened to my friend in the end? __________
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If you haven’t already guessed, I am my friend and I was also the bully. The way I used to talk to myself was horrifying. You cannot succeed; let me say that again YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT SUCCEED UNTIL YOU GET OUT OF THE HABIT OF VERBAL SELF ABUSE. You may as well quit now if you can’t make the commitment to break this habit. Would you talk to your child the way you talk to yourself? It’s time to stop this destructive habit. I can’t stress how important it is for you to end this.

You’re probably thinking, “I can’t stop, I have been doing it too long.” If you try, God will bless it I promise. This is how you do it, you look at yourself in the mirror and if your alone say it out loud, if not, in your mind, “God made me beautiful, I am beautifully and wonderfully made, I am the temple of the Holy Spirit, my steps are ordered by God. God only sees the good in me. I am well able to fulfill the destiny God has planned for my life, look at how good I look, the best is yet to come, look at me, you good looking thing you. God is pleased with me. I am a good friend; I am a wonderful Christian because if not, God would not have chosen me. I try my hardest all the time. God is perfecting me every day. He is well able to give me all I can ask or imagine because He loves me. Everything that God allows in my life is good”… I mean you need to go on and on.

Everyone has a conversation going on in his or her heads at all times (your internal dialog). Your subconscious mind records everything people say to you and what you say to yourself, literally, and records it for later use. If you don't get anything else from this study, take this truth. It is so important.

What are some of the things you say to yourself that are not productive? ________________
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Okay, I hope you got that out of your system, because that is the last time you will ever, ever, ever, say those things to yourself.

It’s dark and sad and no place for a Christian, It’s not arrogant to talk to you in a nice way. Is it a sin to abuse your child verbally? ___________________ is it a sin to verbally abuse your spouse? ____________ You know it’s a sin and a crime to abuse another person verbally. What makes you think God says it’s OK to abuse yourself? You listen to your internal dialog more than you listen to anybody else. You take yourself everywhere you go. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit.
I’m not talking about being egotistical, I’m not talking to the person who thinks they are better than others are, that is a whole other issue, and I am not telling you, you are better than others I am telling you, you are just as wonderful, special and blessed as anyone.
Read I Corinthians 3:17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

Some of the definitions of Defile are: To profane or sully, to demean the pureness or excellence.

What are you doing to the temple God gave you when you abuse yourself? ______________
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I was demeaning the beautiful gift God made for me with His own hands. I was so ungrateful. Finish the blanks from the scripture above

I Corinthians 3:17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, _____________________________
For the temple of God is holy, which temple ____________________.

We are not immune to Gods discipline, no wonder my body was falling apart, I was treating it with such distain. Look through all the red text in your New Testament; did Jesus ever, ever put Himself down?

You need to be a caregiver to your self, not a bully. You need to make the commitment to changing the way you talk to yourself, and how you treat yourself. Nurture yourself; look at yourself the way God looks at you. Nurture yourself with Gods words of love to you.

Read Song of Solomon 2:8-14 The voice of my beloved! Behold, he comes leaping upon the mountains, Skipping upon the hills. 9 My beloved is like a gazelle or a young stag.*Behold, he stands behind our wall; He is looking through the windows,*Gazing through the lattice. 10 My beloved spoke, and said to me:

“ Rise up, my love, my fair one,*And come away. 11 For lo, the winter is past, The rain is over and gone. 12 The flowers appear on the earth; The time of singing has come, And the voice of the turtledove*Is heard in our land. 13 The fig tree puts forth her green figs,*And the vines with the tender grapes Give a good smell. Rise up, my love, my fair one, And come away!
14 “ O my dove, in the clefts of the rock, In the secret places of the cliff, Let me see your face, Let me hear your voice; For your voice is sweet, *And your face is lovely.”

When you get a chance, read the Song of Solomon, It's a beautiful love song to us from God. It illustrates how God sees us, and how much He loves us, His bride. I was saved for thirty years before I could read this book, because I just couldn’t see myself the way God sees me.
Now I am going to ask you again, the question I asked before…
DO— YOU—WANT—TO—BE—HEALED? Yes or No

If your answer is no, don’t give up, please… just try telling yourself your wonderful. You may feel like you’re lying to yourself, but your not, you’re telling yourself the truth. Pray that God will show you the truth. I admit it was hard to look at myself in the mirror at first. It was even hard look at myself in the eyes, I felt humiliated and weird. For so long I believed I was inferior, it was the place I fit into the world, and it was my identity. I didn’t know it at the time, but it was how I manipulated people into liking me. It was a very unhappy place to be.

Just try it! You will be so surprised at how fast this habit goes away. At first, it is uncomfortable, but after you are finished encouraging yourself in the mirror you feel wonderful, happy, and light, you will be amazed. It only took two or three days for me to stop putting myself down. I had always known it was bad to put myself down, I was always going to stop the self-abuse, but I didn’t know how to do it. I always failed because I didn’t realize how destructive it was, but now I understand, you cannot succeed if you don’t stop self-abusing and start encouraging.

If your answer is yes! Hallelujah! Praise God lets go… Don’t be resistant to the mirror exercise and commit yourself to the healing.

Read Psalm 8
In light of today’s study, what was the scripture or statement in today’s lesson that most spoke to your heart? __________________________________________________ ________
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What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? ____________________
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Rephrase the scripture or statement into an expression of faith_________________________
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Isaiah 55:9 For as the _________ are ****_______ than the ______, so are My _____ _______ than _______ ways, _____ My ________ than your __________.

Ryanne
10-07-2009, 09:31 AM
What a dark place, indeed! When I first read this, I was amazed at how the abuser could keep talking to you like that. That is no friend at all! Then when you shared the abuser was yourself, I could totally relate. l have stopped the negative self talk and I now can see the devil in every negative thing I said to myself.
I am now saying what God says about me, and realize that my whole countenance has changed. Bless you, Kelli, for being obedient to sharing all of this with us.
I really am a person changed because of this study. I act different, I feel different and I am in close fellowship with my God. This study keeps me fed with "my DAILY BREAD".
I am heading out for my morning walk. You all have the most wonderful day! :D

Additional note: Thank you all for your encouragement, and I realize that you all are not feeling sorry for me. I thank you for that. You all are the BEST! I am so blessed to have found you.:grouphug:

pattygirl63
10-07-2009, 09:38 AM
Good Morning Everyone,

We talked yesterday about being abused as children. But I must say that I have been the worse abuser of myself over the years. I came to the place that I felt absolutely repulsive when I looked at myself in the mirror. I shared about telling Tony that I didn't even like our names in the church bulletin as head of the enternet prayer ministry. Is it a form of pride? No I see it as such disgust with my looks that I can't see my good points. I know that the real me that is on the inside of this body is a beautiful person, but she seems trapped in this "ugly" flesh of fat.

I battle this bully all the time, but you know when I start confessing what God says about me. I don't feel so ugly. I always dress nice and look as good on the outside as possible. I heard a woman years ago say, "I may have to be fat, but I don't have to be sloppy". I kind of took on that philosophy. But dressing up on the outside, does not get rid of the bully. I have found that the only thing that does that is God's Word.

We or at least I have to continually remind myself that I am God's daughter and that He loves me just like I am. I just have to learn to love myself. Jesus gave to commandments 1. "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and strengthe. and 2 Love your neighbor as your self". A few years ago after reading this scripture, I told the Lord "Father, I would have to learn to love myself before I could love my neighbor like I should. I don't love me, Lord. I hate me."

I began to ask Him to help me love myself. Loving me is taking care of my health. It is a process and I'm not there yet. But then growing spiritually is a process. We are "God's workmanship". He is doing the work in us. That is why he has brought us together.

Well, I've got to run. BSF this morning. Catch you later. Y'all have a great day.

Kelli
10-07-2009, 11:09 AM
I woke up late again today, I am running, but I want you to know you both made me cry, in a good way...

I love you so much, and am so glad we are here.

We need to pray hard for bootsie today, I don't know if you have seen her posts on the Encourager's thread, but she can't even get on this thread (Born again encouragers!!!) At first she could just post small posts, now she can't even see the thread!!

I know God wants her here and Satan doesn't.

Well I gotta run!

Love, Kelli

Ryanne
10-07-2009, 08:49 PM
I feel that it is a hindrance, too, but God is stronger!
I wanted to bless you all with something that has been a blessing to me. It is something from Joyce Meyer's teaching, and I thought it might bless you guys. It is about "HEALING".
Proverbs 4:20-22 says "My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. For they are life to those that find them, and health to all their flesh.: (KJV)
The Hebrew word for “health” in verse 22 is “medicine.” God’s Word is medicine to all our flesh. The medicine He*prescribes is His Word.

Many people make the mistake of substituting belief in healing for the actual taking of God’s medicine – His Word. They say, “I believe in healing” without actually taking the medicine. What good would it do for you to believe in food if you didn’t eat it? You would starve. What good would it do for you to believe in water if you didn’t actually drink any? You would die of thirst.

God’s Word is His medicine. There are several parallels between God’s medicine and natural medicine.

First: God’s Word is a healing agent, just as natural medicine is a healing agent or catalyst. In other words, the medicine itself contains the capacity to produce healing. Inherent within God’s Word is the capacity, the energy, the ability, and the nature to effect healing in your body.
The key to partaking of the life and healing energy in the Word is feeding on the Word until it penetrates your spirit where it deposits that life and energy.

Second: We might say that medicine is no respecter of persons. It will work for anyone who takes it. It is not a matter of if God is willing or not willing to heal any individual, but whether or not the individual will receive healing by taking the medicine that produces it.

Third, and most important: Medicine must be taken according to directions to be effective. Some medicine labels read, “Take internally”; others say, “Take externally.” If you had a cut and you were to put a salve on it, it would help, but if you "ate the salve" it wouldn't help you. To take it once in a while*when the directions say four times a day will mean limited results, if any. No matter how good the medicine is, it must be taken according to the directions or it won’t work. So it is with God’s medicine. It must be taken according to directions for it to work.
The directions for taking God’s medicine are found in:

Proverbs 4:20-21 – Attend to them, incline your ear to them, don’t let them depart from before your eyes, and keep them in the midst of your heart.

Attending to them, inclining your ear to them, and keeping them before your eyes causes the Word to get into the midst of your heart. It is only as God’s Words get in the midst of your heart and stay there that they produce healing in your body. Head knowledge won’t do. They are going to have to penetrate to your spirit through meditation – attending, hearing, looking, muttering, musing, pondering – to produce healing in your body. But once they do penetrate, they will surely bring health to all your flesh. … let them penetrate deep within your heart. (Living Bible)

You can see again that God’s way of healing is spiritual. Power is ministered first to your spirit, then distributed to your body. God’s medicine must be taken internally. Listen, instead of wondering whether you have enough faith to be healed, just take the medicine. Feed on healing scriptures several times a day, repeating them over and over again to yourself. The medicine itself will work if you will get it inside of you.

Fourth: Remember that it takes time for medicine to work. Most people give natural medicine a lot of time, patience, and money to work. They take the prescription back for refills and more refills. They are diligent about it. They don’t just take one dose and expect a miracle. Keep taking God’s medicine. Give it time to work.

Take your medicine. Say healing Scriptures to yourself. Meditate or think about what you are saying to get it in your spirit. His Word is medicine to all your flesh. :book2:

Kelli
10-07-2009, 09:54 PM
Hello, Ladies!

When I am at work all I want to to is get home and read these posts, they are such a blessing and I am gaining so much more than I did when I just went through the study. I really believe studying the Bible in a group like this is really very helpful. God will show one person this and another that, and I just sit back and get so blessed!!

We talked yesterday about being abused as children. But I must say that I have been the worse abuser of myself over the years. I came to the place that I felt absolutely repulsive when I looked at myself in the mirror. I shared about telling Tony that I didn't even like our names in the church bulletin as head of the enternet prayer ministry. Is it a form of pride? No I see it as such disgust with my looks that I can't see my good points. I know that the real me that is on the inside of this body is a beautiful person, but she seems trapped in this "ugly" flesh of fat.

Trish when you shared this before, I knew we were coming up on this lesson, so I didn't want to say anything then, but you are so beautiful. Your spirit, the eternal part of you is so precious. I know how it feels to feel repulsed by myself, and we don't deserve it. Instead of abusing others (like our abusers did) we abuse ourselves... and just like Ryann, or Bootsie or you or me didn't deserve to be abused by our abuser's we don't deserve the abuse we heap on ourselves. I still struggle with it sometimes.

I have to tell you all, when I read these posts, Yours Trish, Ryann's (and when she can get on,) Bootsies, I cry, I laugh, I get goosebumps (I call them Holy Ghost Bumps). It just blesses me all day long.


Fourth: Remember that it takes time for medicine to work. Most people give natural medicine a lot of time, patience, and money to work. They take the prescription back for refills and more refills. They are diligent about it. They don’t just take one dose and expect a miracle. Keep taking God’s medicine. Give it time to work.

This is what Hit me hard today, that is so true, I am so impatient for this medicine to work, I want it yesterday. The time it takes to work is actually such a treasure because all the wonderful things you learn from the healing.

I beat myself up for overeating or wanting something, then Jesus reminds me, it's a process that takes time sometimes. He never told the sick people He healed that "As long as you "be good" your healing will be in effect" (or affect, I never know which one to use ;)) . "But as soon as you make a mistake you will no longer be healed".

I believe I am healed, and I believe that naturally thin people have days when they overeat too. SO I WILL BE NICE TO MYSELF. Can you tell I overate today, we had a safety luncheon today at work to celebrate 700,000 safe work hours. This morning I had a small pumpkin sweet roll, and for lunch we had Chicken Fried steak, mashed potatoes and gravy, corn, ice cream... anyway I overdid it a little... BUT I WILL TRUST GOD AND LEAVE IT UP TO HIM and not OBSESS!!!

I love you all, talk to you later.
Love, Kelli

Bootsie
10-07-2009, 11:08 PM
It has let me on to post! I hope I don't loose y'all posting. I have had a BAD DAY! I have not been able to say anything right, write anything right, I just hate myself right now.

I must tell you I have quit another Bible study to do this Bible Study with y'all because I did not feel I could do both. I have the feeling the last few days not being able to post and share my heart with y'all, God was telling me I made the wrong choice, but I think it is Satan working on me, trying to run me off, for when y'all started praying for me , well here I am , what can I say but this is where I belong. Thank you for the prayers! :hug:

Today's study seems to really hit home with me today. I wish I could just slap myself silly for not keeping in touch with my friends, even if I never hear from them! I really hate myself right now and yes I come down on myself harder than anyone else because i expect more out of myself.
Well best go and get to work and tell my friends from the past Hello and I love them!

Kelli
10-07-2009, 11:27 PM
BOOOOOOTSSSSSIIIIII!!!! Why are you being so mean to our friend? You have so much to do on your farm and at your store, you are too hard on yourself! Stop it! :nono:

Why was your day so bad? What happened? Please don't say you hate yourself. You can be mad at yourself, you can even say you made a mistake, but Please don't say you hate yourself. You don't deserve that! God doesn't want you to do that. EVERYBODY has a bad day or a day where thay can't say or do anything right, but that's the difference, between a healthy soul and a hurt soul. The healthy soul can acknowledge they made a mistake, they take that pain into themselves then turn around and relase it to God, knowing He forgives them because they are human and not God.

The hurting soul takes it in and absorbs the pain, but then the pain goes all around there brain bouncing all over the place causing more damage.

I think your right about needing to be here, because most of the study deals with self esteem issues, and you need to get some Jesusteem girl. I wish you could see yourself the way I see you. I absolutly love it when you tell us about how you chase cyotes with a stick. :rofl: It makes me feel like I am watching the funniest sitcom!

You said
I wish I could just slap myself silly

Well you can't slap yourself silly, because it's too late, your already silly :dizzy: for saying those things about yourself. Your friends, if they are in tune with you and Jesus. They know how extremely busy you are with your farm and your store...

We love you Bootsie, and you belong here!!!:hug:

Ryanne
10-07-2009, 11:42 PM
Girl, You do belong here! I have been praying for you and I know that God loves you soooo much because HE has put you on my heart a lot!!!!
I love you, Bootsie...and am glad you were able to post.
Kelli, thank you for your posts, and yes, everyone overeats sometime...they are called feasts...and those are okay once in a while. A celebration is a celebration...we don't have many feast days, so as long as you are feasting, feast, but we just don't feast every day.
Feasting is different from normal eating, it is a time for celebration and yes we overeat on those days.
It's okay.
Trish, your post was a real blessing to me,too. Yes, sometimes we can be our own abusers, which means that we can have mercy with those who abuse or have abused us, because, see, we have the same sin as they do. When we abuse ourselves, it is just as bad or worse than abusing someone else. For we are God's Anointed and He doesn't want us speaking against HIS ANOINTED!
I love you all! I am so blessed by each and every one of you...God is so good!

pattygirl63
10-08-2009, 01:54 AM
Awe Bootsie:hug: I don't know what happened with you, but please don't be so hard on yourself. I also believe that you belong here. As for your Bible Study you quit, we all make those mistakes. I started BSF last year and quit because of a lot of things that were going on at the time. Later I wished I had continued going, because nothing that was the problem when I quit got solved by me quiting. But that is behind me now. I decided to go this year and made a commitment to me and to the Lord that I will finish it. I got throught week 9 on the Diet Bible Study and had planned to stop and pick up lesson 10 next summer when BSF started and had put all my materials away. Then y'all decided to start this thread. I knew I needed to be a part of this. Kellie said I didn't have to do the lessons over since I was doing the other study, but I felt I needed to go along with y'all. I only go over the lessons to see what I did before. What I'm finding is that here 2 months later, I am seeing things a little differently than I did back then. I say that to say that you are where you belong. If you missed it with the other class, God will make a way for you to do that as well. If He doesn't, don't beat yourself up because He has another plan. Be good to yourself. And stick around. I sure missed you and prayed you would be able to post here. You are such a blessing and I too enjoy you sharing your animal stories.:D You are sooooo special to all of us here and I would hate for us to lose you.

I believe I am healed, and I believe that naturally thin people have days when they overeat too. SO I WILL BE NICE TO MYSELF. Can you tell I overate today, we had a safety luncheon today at work to celebrate 700,000 safe work hours. This morning I had a small pumpkin sweet roll, and for lunch we had Chicken Fried steak, mashed potatoes and gravy, corn, ice cream... anyway I overdid it a little... BUT I WILL TRUST GOD AND LEAVE IT UP TO HIM and not OBSESS!!!

Kellie It is true that thin people have days they eat more than others. I watched this with Tony's daughter. There are days she eats a lot especially if she goes out to eat or to a special occasion. And then there are times she hardly eats anything. I think she is like I was when I was thin, food just doesn't hold a special interest to her. Oh to have that attitude again.:dizzy: Thanks again for sharing so much with us and letting me see that I am not alone. We have all had the same feelings.

Ryanne Thanks for sharing the Joyce Meyer things. I love her and have most of her books and some of her tapes, cds and dvds. You have given me lots to think about, girl. Thanks for reminding me of some things that I have let slip and need to get back to. I appreciate you.

I have felt like I was getting no where with my eating. Not losing any weight yet. Today I ate breakfast earlier because of BSF meeting. Got home and was hungry and ate an apple because I knew Tony would be up soon and hungry. Didn't feel really good physically at meeting and by the time he was up and ready to eat, I was really feeling weak. Once I ate, I was fine. I've been experiencing that a bit lately especially when I go way too long without eating. I'm not hungry for a long time and then when it hits me I am weak until I eat. Strange thing is that once I ate dinner, I was fine. Just kind of snacked a little the rest of the day as needed and all was fine. The thing is though that I'm not hungry much and have no cravings which is a real blessing to me.

It is late. So I'm going to bed. Catch y'all tomorrow.

Ryanne
10-08-2009, 02:40 AM
I've been experiencing that a bit lately especially when I go way too long without eating. I'm not hungry for a long time and then when it hits me I am weak until I eat. Strange thing is that once I ate dinner, I was fine.

It is late. So I'm going to bed. Catch y'all tomorrow.

This happens to me sometimes too, usually it is blood sugar dips, but also I usually get like that one or two days before that time of the month. It is a hormonal imbalance. So, I know what you are talking about. It happened to me yesterday, and the thing is, I drank an "ENSURE" in the morning and so it shouldn't have happened, but I wasn't hungry, just started feeling that way, when I got home, I ate and within about 15 minutes was fine. Weird, eh? Well, anyway, just letting you know that is not that uncommon, but you might want to mention it to your dr. next visit. :hug:

Ryanne
10-08-2009, 06:14 AM
Week 1 Day 5
Nourished in the Words of Faith
Day ___________________________ Date ___________________________

On day two, we learned it does not profit us to be occupied by food. The reason we are over weight is that we have become too focused on the food and berating yourself when you can’t control how much you eat. Dieting has not made us less focused but more. We are infatuated with the latest diet fad, and this takes our focus off God the one who truly deserves our devotion.

Read I Timothy 4:1-8 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 6 If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. 7 But reject profane and old wives' fables, and exercise yourself toward godliness. 8 For bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come.

According to the passage, should we abstain from certain foods such as carbohydrates, meat, and fat? __________________________

God created all foods and we can eat with thanksgiving. God is the same yesterday today and always. I have heard Christians say you should be a vegetarian, because Daniel abstained from the Kings food and only ate grains and veggies. He did that because of Jewish laws, but we are under the new covenant and this passage proves it. The Bible says ALL creatures, which means ALL creatures!

According to I Timothy 4:3 above, how are we to receive the gift of food God has provided? __________________________________________________ _________________________

When you run to the food for comfort and you’re not hungry, you gain weight. What kind of spirits does the Bible say you are listening to when you abstain from certain foods God gave you to enjoy? (Verse 1) __________________________________________________ _____

Look at the line that says nourished in the words of faith. The word nourished is defined as; to promote the growth and development of... Has the circumstance of your being overweight made you feel nourished?

List some of the reasons you turn to food when you’re not hungry.
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We run to food because it gives us a feeling of being nurtured and nourished. We think it gives us comfort and love. How do you feel after going on an eating binge? _______
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Does it feel you have promoted the growth and development of your life in any way? _______ It depresses you and makes you feel ashamed, heartbroken and tired all the time. It makes you down on yourself and gives you a reason for self-abuse. You are going to learn, you’re not a slave to your sin. You have been listening to the greatest liar ever. Satan is the father of all lies.

Once your body stops growing its surprising how little food we need to sustain us. You’ve probably been eating at least twice as much as you need, maybe more.

As mentioned earlier, the dictionary defines nourished as; to promote the growth and development of... the dictionary leaves it blank, so you can fill it in. I always thought nourished had something to do with food. I associated food with comfort. I think we all do.

Review, I Timothy 4:1-8, the Bible says to promote and develop the growth of the spirit by the words of faith. Think about the previous diets you’ve been on; was the focal point what you look like? We have been trying to fix the wrong problem, being preoccupied with how we look. We’ve put the solution to our weight problem on the back burner. The answer is to develop our spirit before any thing else, then all else will right itself. Luke 11:9-13 says, Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added unto you.

Every time Jesus healed someone, He was always more concerned about their spiritual condition. Read the following passage.

Mark 2:1-12 And again He entered Capernaum after some days, and it was heard that He was in the house. 2 Immediately many gathered together, so that there was no longer room to receive them, not even near the door. And He preached the word to them. 3 Then they came to Him, bringing a paralytic who was carried by four men. 4 And when they could not come near Him because of the crowd, they uncovered the roof where He was. So when they had broken through, they let down the bed on which the paralytic was lying.
5 When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven you."
6 And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, 7 "Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
8 But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, "Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? 9 Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, "Your sins are forgiven you,' or to say, "Arise, take up your bed and walk'? 10 But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins"--He said to the paralytic, 11 "I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house." 12 Immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went out in the presence of them all, so that all were amazed and glorified God, saying, "We never saw anything like this!”

Jesus took care of the paralyzed man’s spiritual need before healing the physical by saying “your sins are forgiven.” Physical healing is important to Jesus but it was secondary to spiritual healing.

Mark 5:34 And He said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace, and be healed of your affliction.”

When we think of the word peace, we think of peace of mind. The word Shalom, is the Hebrew word for Peace, but it means much more. It means completeness, it means salvation. It means a restored relationship.

Remember we can only nourish our spirit by things of the Spirit. Nourishing our spirit is critical. When our spirit is well nourished, we won’t need to try to fill it with food that doesn’t satisfy.

I Timothy 4:8 For bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things.

The Dictionary defines godliness as being devoted to God. God will be taking the pounds off while the spirit’s being filled. The weight will naturally decrease.

If you don’t exercise you will still lose weight, although you may come to a point were you want to, because it will make you feel better but remember it only profits a little so don’t put exercise over your daily devotion.

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The first day of this diet, we're reminded Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. In the same scripture it says do not be occupied with foods. Today we found spiritual well-being is more important than our physical well-being. Do you think you have the confidence in God, the creator and ruler of the universe to know what our bodies need? If you believe, you need to stop doing weird diets, which make you count calories, or have only certain foods in certain combinations at certain times of the day. Trust Jesus He declared all foods clean.

Read the following scriptures, use your own Bible to fill in the blanks.
Mark 7: 14-20 when He had called all the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear Me, everyone, and understand: 15 There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that defile a man. 16 If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!” 17 When He had entered a house away from the crowd, His disciples asked Him concerning the parable. 18 “Are you thus without understanding also? 19&20 __________________________________________________ ____
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_______________ 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts. Adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, and evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.”
The need or desire is not generated from the food. We don’t need to overeat; it’s the desire form within. The problem with being so preoccupied with how we look, and being obsessed with the physical is, it creates the obsession for dieting and food.

READ: Psalm 1 and 118:8-9

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Kelli
10-08-2009, 11:27 AM
The part of the lesson for me today, was one of the Scriptures in the daily reading,

Psalm 1: 3 He shall be like a tree
Planted by the rivers of water,
That brings forth its fruit in its season,
Whose leaf also shall not wither;
And whatever he does shall prosper.

I was going along great for the longest time, and suddenly when I started to post the study, I started feeling I was becoming out of control again... I realize now it's because I could see God working and using the study so I felt I had to be in control again, so I would resist eating instead of giving it to God, and then it started to scare me, then I started trying to manipulate my weightloss... anyway, I need to remember confusion is not from God, all things in His time. I will fall into His arms and relax. It's weird evertime I ask God what's going on all of a sudden a scripture pops in my head.

Luke 22:30-3231 And the Lord said, “Simon, Simon! Indeed, Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, that your faith should not fail; and when you have returned to Me, strengthen your brethren.”

While I have been writing this that song came on the radio. "God's not finished with me yet" the chorus goes like this.

There is hope for me yet
Because God won’t forget
All the plans he’s made for me
I have to wait and see
He’s not finished with me yet

Still wondering why I’m here
Still wrestling with my fear
But oh, He’s up to something
And the farther on I go
I’ve seen enough to know
That I’m, not here for nothing
He’s up to something.

HE IS SO GOOD!

Trish, and Ryann, I don't know if it will help, but I would sometimes get that weak feeling, and I prayed about it and Jesus told me it was my body having to work harder to use the fat storage because it was out of calories...

Of course you need to do what God and your doctor tell you. But ask Him, He will give you wisdom. I don't have those feelings anymore, but I know when our bodies are addicted to stuff the flesh fights for it. But please don't think I am saying don't go to your doctor. Yours may be a totally different feeling. I know when my thin daughter doesn't always get the hunger pains, what she gets when she is hungry is really hot and weak feeling. maybe you are like I was and hadn't felt hunger for so long I forgot what it felt like???

Well I have to run, running late for work ~again

Love, Kelli

Ryanne
10-08-2009, 01:34 PM
I pray before I eat, and well, I just got to thinking, most time it's just "lip service". We have been really telling God lately that we are thankful. Sometimes it's easy for me to tell Him that I am thankful for clothes and money, but I get embarrassed to really get excited and thank Him for the food that He has given us for the nourishment of our bodies. I have had such a LUST/HATE relationship with food for soooo long. Like the woman in the Bible who had been afflicted by the devil for 18 years, and she had a curvature of the spine and couldn't even stand up straight, I am ready to give up things that have afflicted me for years. I let go of what lies behind and press forward to what lies ahead. The flesh was lusting after food, but I am a new creation and I no longer do that. I am well balanced in every area of my life. I don't hate the food, God made food for us to use as our daily nourishment for our bodies.
I am not going to despise what God has given me.
Last week we were down to just a little food left in the cupboards, it could have lasted us a week or two, but we were down to rice and beans, peanut butter and jelly, stirfry and shrimp, (which we had already eaten so much of that it was getting redundant), and some potatoes and oranges. I was lusting after food that wasn't in the house. Then I realized I wasn't being content with whatever state I was in, and was despising what food God had provided for us. I apologized to Him and settled myself to be content with what was in the house, just thanking God that we did have food.
We forget sometimes that He is our Provider and He does provide well for us.
I decide today, that when I eat, I will be thankful, whether I am abounding or abased. Therefore whatever state I am in I decide to be content. :dancer:

pattygirl63
10-08-2009, 05:11 PM
I have been thinking about the fact that Jesus said all food is clean. Several years ago, I was told that I couldn't eat gluten, but not much was known about it and it seemed like too much trouble so I forgot about it. Oh it would cross my mind from time to time, but not seriously considered it. Recently I've seen and heard a lot about it so I looked it up. I definitely have a gluten intolerance. I share this to share an experience I had recently when grocery shopping.

I was in the grocery store and looking for bread. I suddenly I saw gluten free bread. It impressed me so that I picked it up and looked at the calorie and fiber count, but it was more calories and less fiber than the bread I usually buy which is whole wheat 40 calorie 5g fiber per slice. I kept thinking that I needed to go back and buy the gluten free bread instead of what I bought. Now after some research I've done, I am confident that God was leading me to switch to gluten free foods. He has been leading me to eat a certain way and I have to admit that I have not been following Him. I'm sorry to say that I did not obey Him. I never went back and got it. Even saw gluten free foods in other places and passed them up. While I don't overeat or have cravings any more, I'm not eating the right foods for my body.

I was really searching for Tony because of how he has been feeling and the doctors cannot find what is wrong with him. When I read the symptoms of Gluten Intolerance, I found that the Health Practitioner that I went to years ago was right. Since I have prayed for God to teach me how to eat, I now realize that He was trying to show me what is wrong and that my body cannot handle certain grains which includes wheat are damaging my body. Which is why God was telling me not to eat it.

There are certain foods that I have not wanted to give up. But I'm beginning to see how those foods which I thought gave me comfort are the very foods that could steal my health and even my life from me.

I am so thankful to God for loving me so much that He did not give up on me. I read that when I start eating right the body even heals itself. Sure proves what Paul said in 1Co 6:12 CEV translation to be true. He said "Some of you say, 'We can do anything we want to.' But I tell you that not everything is good for us". In fact, it may be lawful for me to eat what ever I want of those foods with Gluten, but it is also harmful to my body.

I have been praying for God to show me how to eat "healthy" for my body. I felt He was the only One who knows exactly what I need to be healthy since He is the One who created my body. So I will eat the way the Lord has been trying to show me that I need to eat so I can be healthy. And as you said Ryanne, I will do it with Thanksgiving. I am going to do my best NOT to complain about what I cannot have and seek to Thankfully Rejoice for what I CAN have remembering that God has shown me how to eat so I can be happy because I will feel good, be clear minded and healthy.
Thank God He did not leave me to die in my sin.

Ryanne I guess I am making the same decision as you today, that when I eat, I will be thankful, whether I am abounding or abased. Therefore whatever state I am in I decide to be content. It is my choice, I will pick foods I like from what is allowed and enjoy it and be thankful for it.

maybe you are like I was and hadn't felt hunger for so long I forgot what it felt like???

Kellie Psalm 1:3 is one of my favorite scriptures and love the word to the song. Yes I agree with you. When I started eating IE way of eating, I had a hard time recognizing the difference in "true" hunger and "mouth" hunger... did just think I wanted something to eat or just wanted the taste of a certain food. I found times that I would stand at the fridge or panty wanting something, but didn't know what. Finally decided that I wanted something but couldn't put a name of food to it that I wasn't really hungry.

GOD IS SO GOOD!!! And I appreciate each one of you.

Have a good evening. Catch you later.

Ryanne
10-08-2009, 08:16 PM
Trish, and Ryann, I don't know if it will help, but I would sometimes get that weak feeling, and I prayed about it and Jesus told me it was my body having to work harder to use the fat storage because it was out of calories...

Of course you need to do what God and your doctor tell you. But ask Him, He will give you wisdom. I don't have those feelings anymore, but I know when our bodies are addicted to stuff the flesh fights for it. But please don't think I am saying don't go to your doctor. Yours may be a totally different feeling. I know when my thin daughter doesn't always get the hunger pains, what she gets when she is hungry is really hot and weak feeling. maybe you are like I was and hadn't felt hunger for so long I forgot what it felt like???



Love, Kelli

You know, Kelli, I know what hunger is, and you may be right about this being the body's usage of stored fat. If it is, I will stop fearing it. Usually when this happens I try to get food in me as fast as I can because I feel like I may faint. I'm going to pray about this. I didn't want you to think I was ignoring what you were saying...I have been pondering it since I read it...just something that needs some prayer.
Thank you, Kelli.
Trish, I think a person could do well on a gluten free diet, there are many products available that don't have gluten. I have kind of looked into it, but not much. I'm sorry that when you talk about Tony, I don't know who that is, but does that person have Celiac disease? Anyway, I'd be interested to know the benefits you get from eating this way. I have some gut problems, but God is not leading me to eat that way, even though I have looked into it.
But let me know how your symptoms change and if you feel healthier.
Right now, I feel I need to seek God in prayer, so I will talk to you all later. Have a good evening.
It is raining so much here. I'll bet Bootsie is getting some of this down in Texas...I know that OKC had this storm earlier.
Anyway, have a good evening. I'll be on later.

Ryanne
10-08-2009, 10:41 PM
I just got in some "confusion" about what to eat and how to eat and needed to pray about it. Like I said, I have so much knowledge about nutrition that sometimes it can be confusing when you are living in liberty. I feel that the basic concept of the way we eat is right. Basically here is what the plan is for "Me and My Family". I have already shared some of the health things I have going on, and my daughter also has some health problems and we are believing God for the manifestation of our healing, since "by His stripes we WERE and are healed."
Anyway, I do watch sat. fats, too much salt and too much sugar. I eat when I am hungry for breakfast and lunch, sometimes skipping one or both, I have decided I am doing a permanent fast of snacking between meals and not eating when I am not hungry, except for supper, which we sit down as a family and eat together, and feast days (Birthdays, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Years and Easter, Anniversary and maybe a special occasion here or there). I will drink enough liquids to stay hydrated. We eat desserts 2x per week. I exercise (whatever I choose) at least 30 minutes at least 6 days per week.
I have decided that if I do go through what we talked about, the dizziness, I will cross that bridge when I come to it. If I eat, I eat...I will be led by the Holy Spirit.
I believe that educating myself about nutrition has been good because I think that we should have basic nutritional knowledge, especially if we do have growing children or health issues.
I'm sorry for rambling, it's just I got into some confusion and had to get it straightened out, because I refuse to be obsessed with this and want to keep my mind stayed on the Lord and not about what I should or shouldn't be eating.
I know that I know that there are certain foods I KNOW that I should abstain from just for my body's sake. Just as there are certain things I avoid for the glory of God, like alcohol.
This post is mainly for me, as I sought God and my husband's advice so I am not constantly second guessing myself.
:dizzy:

Kelli
10-09-2009, 12:17 AM
I think this study is one you need to pray and ask God if it applies to you. It is what I prayed about and it applied to Mylissa and I. I think what is cool is we are all asking God to be our Diet guide, and look what He is teaching you about your own bodies!!

The only thing I feel real strong about is, we shouldn't get caught up in the whole "dieting" scenario and spend too much time and energy on the content of the food and become legalistic.

Ryann, I think you deciding to fast snacking between meals forever... hum... I just hope if you don't follow this perfectly, you don't get discouraged with it and feel like you have failed. Those snacks my become a forbidden fruit for you. But of course you have to do what God tells you to do. :)

You guys have a wonderful evening.

Love, Kelli

Ryanne
10-09-2009, 12:37 AM
I think what is cool is we are all asking God to be our Diet guide, and look what He is teaching you about your own bodies!!

The only thing I feel real strong about is, we shouldn't get caught up in the whole "dieting" scenario and spend too much time and energy on the content of the food and become legalistic.

Ryann, I think you deciding to fast snacking between meals forever... hum... I just hope if you don't follow this perfectly, you don't get discouraged with it and feel like you have failed. Those snacks my become a forbidden fruit for you. But of course you have to do what God tells you to do. :)



It seems that Bootsie, Trish and I have all been attacked in the area of "what to eat"...but it is good, because I realized that I am doing what I believe is what God would have me to do for me and my family. I had some other things going on today that just seemed too much to carry, and thank God that we can give Him all of our concerns and know He is in control! So, anyway, I think I had a weak point that Satan just kind of honed in on.
I agree, it's not about that Kelli, but it was just something that I got caught up with today.
Yes, Kelli, I do believe that we should not be snacking, financially and because of a problem my daughter has health wise, she is not able to, and we have been fasting that, and now I don't really care about snacking...but ya, I agree to not be legalistic about it.
The whole family has agreed we will all eat the same way, and if one cannot have then we will all be supportive and eat the same way so one does not have to go it alone.
We are united and we will all eat the same way.
Today has been a trying day and I am not feeling very well today, so I am gonna call it a night.
Until tomorrow, God Bless You All.

pattygirl63
10-09-2009, 12:55 AM
Ryanne Tony is my husband. No I don't think he has Celiac Disease, but I'm thinking that he is probably gluten intolerant as I am. We both have a lot of the symptoms. I don't know if he will try to be tested for it or we will just avoid the foods that have gluten in it. I have thought for a long time that I might not should eat wheat, but I wanted to get my grains. Now I'm thinking that this may be the reason I haven't been able to lose weight. I read someone's writing somewhere else on 3fc who said that when she quit eating wheat that she lost 4 lbs almost immediately.

Kellie Although I feel there are foods I do need to avoid due to gluten, I agree with you about being caught up in diets. Besides there are many things that the diet does allow that I know that I just cannot handle. I think I mentioned before that Tony like to munch on chips. He keeps a bag on hand and he doesn't have any problem eating a few and then putting away the bag. I don't like regular chips, but they are his favorite. I have to admit that love Ruffles and could eat the whole bag full in one setting. Therefore, I no longer bring Ruffles in the house. I never get tempted to eat the regular ones because I don't like the texture. That said I know what I can buy and what I cannot.

I hope Bootsie is able to get to us soon.

Night ladies.

Bootsie
10-09-2009, 01:09 AM
Kelli you are so right, I have noticed Jesus leading each one of us in the direction he wants us to follow. Is that not Amazing! He knows us better than we know ourselves. That just proves to me, he is there guiding us on our road to victory we need to listen to what our bodies are telling us because he made each one of us different and unique and do what is best for our body and our soul. You know i don't want to look like no Beauty Queen, HA! I am 56 years old fixing to be 57 ,all this dear old Texan wants is to be healthy and to have a beautiful heart for Jesus. Does that make sense?

It is suppose to rain in the morning, hope our back tank fills up this time.

pattygirl63
10-09-2009, 02:55 AM
Kelli you are so right, I have noticed Jesus leading each one of us in the direction he wants us to follow. Is that not Amazing! He knows us better than we know ourselves. That just proves to me, he is there guiding us on our road to victory we need to listen to what our bodies are telling us because he made each one of us different and unique and do what is best for our body and our soul. You know i don't want to look like no Beauty Queen, HA! I am 56 years old fixing to be 57 ,all this dear old Texan wants is to be healthy and to have a beautiful heart for Jesus. Does that make sense?

It is suppose to rain in the morning, hope our back tank fills up this time.

Bootsie Decided to check one more time before I go to bed. So glad you made it here. Thought of you all day. Beautifully said. That is my desire as well. To be healthy and have a beautiful heart for Jesus and to fulfill the plan He has planned for my life. When is your sweetie taking you to see the Grandbaby?

Ryanne
10-09-2009, 09:13 AM
Week 2 Day 1
A Change of Heart, a New Creation
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Even though I had been a Christian a long time, and reading my Bible almost everyday. I never thought to go to the Bible to resolve my weight problem. I didn’t consider it a diet guide. I would pray, asking God to help me with a particular diet, but I never thought of the Bible as the starting place. However, the more I read the Bible the more I realized it is a rich source of knowledge and insight for every known problem. The word is our guide for living every aspect or our life. This ancient document is just as practical today as it was six thousand years ago, Solomon wrote:

Ecclesiastes 1:9, 10 That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, And there is nothing new under the sun. 10 Is there anything of which it may be said, "See, this is new"? It has already been in ancient times before us.

Read Psalm 118:8-9
It is better to trust in the Lord Than to put confidence in man, 9It is better to trust in the Lord Than to put confidence in princes.

Who should you put your confidence about losing weight in? ______ Read Colossians 2: 20-23 20 Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations— 21 “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” 22 which all concern things which perish with the using—according to the commandments and doctrines of men? 23 These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.

This scripture nails it; it’s exactly what we have been doing with our frantic dieting. Why are we living as if we don’t have all this knowledge and wisdom at our fingertips?



It’s not a food issue; it’s a head and heart problem. If there weren’t a consequence for overeating, we wouldn’t have difficulty in resisting it. It wouldn’t be forbidden. An addict is someone who can’t get enough; they want more, and more. How many people do you know who are addicted to water? We are rebellious. I don’t have a problem with praying to God for help finding my keys, yet somehow I always conveniently forget to pray for help in resisting the temptation to eat the last of my Mucho Grande Over Stuffed Big Fat Burrito.

In a recent study done in Switzerland. The participants were blindfolded while eating. They ate less and felt just as full. It was determined; when they couldn’t see what they were eating, they paid more attention to their inner cues.

The desire for forbidden fruit is our real problem. I read a story in my little daily devotional, “Our Daily Bread.” The title was forbidden fruit. It was about a resort hotel in Texas, they had a sign in each room saying “No fishing off the balcony.” Yet every day the hotel guests would throw their line into the water. When the management decided to just give up and remove the signs, the fishing stopped. We are a defiant people and need to have a heart transformation, if we are ever going to be successful at losing weight and the only way to have a heart or thought transformation is through the power of the most High God.
Let me ask you a question. Have you felt any of the diets you’ve tried before with all their rules and regulation worked on changing your heart?

Do you think your problem could be you have been trying to change the food and not your mind/heart? _________________

In other words none of these diets did anything to help you battle against the indulgences of the flesh.

The way to change your mind is easy. You are in the habit of thinking negatively and you need to break that habit. You have to get up every morning and say I am a beautiful creation of the almighty God. Look at yourself in the mirror and say I'm beautiful, thank you God for giving me such a fine-looking body. Every part of my body works so well.

If you are going to be successful with this or any other part of your life, you have to be nice to yourself. Even if you don’t feel like you are beautiful, DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO THINK THAT! You must, must get rid of all negative thoughts, start getting in the habit of complimenting yourself. You take yourself everywhere you go; you might as well enjoy it. Read Philemon 1:6 That the sharing of your faith may become effective by the acknowledgment of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.

Rewrite the previous scripture in your own words. __________________________________
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The verse says, "Every good thing in you is in Christ". God does not want you walking around thinking negatively about yourself. You can’t share your faith effectively, unless you acknowledge God has created you for good things, that you are good in Christ. You can’t be effective in sharing your faith if you have not acknowledged how wonderful God has made you!

Read, II Corinthians: 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

When you turned your heart over to Jesus and gave him lordship of your heart, you died to your will and the world’s rules and became a new creation in Christ.

Read Galatians 5:22,23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

I used to read this scripture and think, I have joy, peace, longsuffering… but when I came to the self-control fruit, I would think, Someday God would give me that gift. I believed a deception, and one day it dawned on me. I already have all the fruits of the Spirit. I received them when I asked God into my heart. We automatically get the fruits when we get saved, it’s part of the package. I realized I had been listening to that bully Satan. You have to understand that Satan is a liar. He is the accuser of the brethren

Read Revelation 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

Read about what Jesus said about Satan when the Pharisees were trying to trip Him up with lies. John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

Satan lies to you and tries to make you feel condemned, don’t receive the accusations. Say, a scripture like “I am the righteousness of God” You will make mistakes, allow yourself that.

Read Romans 7 *Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? 2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.

God opened my eyes to this passage one day, I had read it many times in the past and even heard it used in sermons, and they were all about condemning the sinful divorcé, but that is not what this scripture is telling us. It is using the adulteress and widow as an illustration of our death to the law. The Law no longer binds us; in fact, the law is what creates the desire to sin.

I am telling you completely give up dieting. Completely give up condemning your self for overeating. I know this is a scary concept, just to give it up and not be in control, but trying so hard to stop dieting has created the addiction. The more people try to diet, the fatter they get. Being overweight doesn't mean you are weaker than thin folks are, it just means you have tried harder to lose weight. Don’t believe me? Continue reading Romans 7 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, THE SINFUL PASSIONS WHICH WERE AROUSED BY THE LAW were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead. 9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me. 12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.

13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am!

Even Paul struggled with sin, we tend to think of him as “Saint Paul”, but he was a sinner saved by grace just like you and me. He goes through his list of sins in frustration with himself, then just as it seems he will be lost to hopelessness of ever recovering he ask in the last part of verse 24, Who will deliver me from this body of death? Ah… then he remembers, 25I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

It’s a little hard to understand these verses in the New King James version; I like how the Message interprets it. The Message version was translated from the original ancient Greek in today’s English rhythms and idioms.

1-3 You shouldn't have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. For instance, a wife is legally tied to her husband while he lives, but if he dies, she's free. If she lives with another man while her husband is living, she's obviously an adulteress. But if he dies, she is quite free to marry another man in good conscience, with no one's disapproval.

4-6 So, my friends, this is something like what has taken place with you. When Christ died he took that entire rule-dominated way of life down with him and left it in the tomb, leaving you free to "marry" a resurrection life and bear "offspring" of faith for God. For as long as we lived that old way of life, doing whatever we felt we could get away with, sin was calling most of the shots as the old law code hemmed us in. And this made us all the more rebellious. In the end, all we had to show for it was miscarriages and stillbirths. But now that we're no longer shackled to that domineering mate of sin, and out from under all those oppressive regulations and fine print, we're free to live a new life in the freedom of God.
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7 But I can hear you say, "If the law code was as bad as all that, it's no better than sin itself." That's certainly not true. The law code had a perfectly legitimate function. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. Apart from the succinct, surgical command, "You shall not covet," I could have dressed covetousness up to look like a virtue and ruined my life with it.
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8-12 Don't you remember how it was? I do, perfectly well. The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of "forbidden fruit" out of it. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me. Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it. But once sin got its hands on the law code and decked itself out in all that finery, I was fooled, and fell for it. The very command that was supposed to guide me into life was cleverly used to trip me up, throwing me headlong. So sin was plenty alive, and I was stone dead. But the law code itself is God's good and common sense, each command sane and holy counsel.
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13 I can already hear your next question: "Does that mean I can't even trust what is good [that is, the law]? Is good just as dangerous as evil?" No again! Sin simply did what sin is so famous for doing: using the good as a cover to tempt me to do what would finally destroy me. By hiding within God's good commandment, sin did far more mischief than it could ever have accomplished on its own.

14-16 I can anticipate the response that is coming: "I know that all God's commands are spiritual, but I'm not. Isn't this also your experience?" Yes. I'm full of myself—after all, I've spent a long time in sin's prison. What I don't understand about myself is that I decide one way, but then I act another, doing things I absolutely despise. So if I can't be trusted to figure out what is best for myself and then do it, it becomes obvious that God's command is necessary.
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17-20 But I need something more! For if I know the law but still can't keep it, and if the power of sin within me keeps sabotaging my best intentions, I obviously need help! I realize that I don't have what it takes. I can will it, but I can't do it. I decide to do good, but I don't really do it; I decide not to do bad, but then I do it anyway. My decisions, such as they are, don't result in actions. Something has gone wrong deep within me and gets the better of me every time.
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21-23 It happens so regularly that it's predictable. The moment I decide to do good, sin is there to trip me up. I truly delight in God's commands, but it's pretty obvious that not all of me joins in that delight. Parts of me covertly rebel, and just when I least expect it, they take charge.
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24 I've tried everything and nothing helps. I'm at the end of my rope. Is there no one who can do anything for me? Isn't that the real question?
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25 The answer, thank God, is that Jesus Christ can and does. He acted to set things right in this life of contradictions where I want to serve God with all my heart and mind, but am pulled by the influence of sin to do something totally different.

The real mistake comes when you let Satan condemn you and keep you down there. Get back up, praise Jesus for this freedom, ask Him for forgiveness, and He will forgive you. Jesus never condemns you. He may show you where you are sinning so you can cry out to Him and ask for help, he doesn’t condemn. The dictionary defines the word condemn as, "To pronounce unfit for use".

Read how the King James Version interprets it.
Romans 7:8 (KJV) * *8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. ([from dictionary.com]desire, (R.V., "coveting"); Col. 3:5 (R.V., "desire"). The "lust of concupiscence" denotes evil desire, indwelling sin.) For without the law sin was dead. **11For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
So what causes the compulsion to overeat? ************______________________________________ _
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The sin is not just overeating; it’s also worrying about overeating or about being thin. Its sin to overeat and it’s also a sin to worry so much about your overeating. When we obsess about looking or being a certain way and don’t trust God and His timing we become obsessed with the thing that takes up so much of our thought life. God wants you to be thin, but He also wants you to learn from being overweight.

We need to let it go, and here is how you do that. Every time you eat and even when you are thinking about eating, you need to pray. Ask God to help you to stop eating when you are full. Ask Him to help you recognize fullness, and ask Him to help you stop when you are satisfied, then, and this is the hard part, die to your will.

Romans 8:36-39 As it is written: “ For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

What does the phrase “die to your will” mean to you? ________________________________
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I Corinthians 6:12, 13 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
And
I Corinthians 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.

Read John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

Read Colossians 2: 20-22 again, Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations— 21 “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” 22 which all concern things which perish with the using—according to the commandments and doctrines of men?
How many diets have you been on that didn’t parish with use? When you first start a diet, you are filled with hope. You have faith knowing this is the one. Then about three weeks into it or so, you give up. You need to keep up the positive thoughts going. Keep saying to yourself, I am a new creation, that old person is dead. I am strong in Christ Jesus. When you were born again you received the fruits of the Spirit, one of those fruits are, self-control. You need to have faith that you received it. Say I have self-control and say it to yourself often. Put up little sticky notes to remind you to say it. Instead of being occupied with the diet and what you eat, be occupied with the goodness God has placed in you.

Philemon 1:6 That the sharing of your faith may become effective by the acknowledgment of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.

It is so sad that in the United States, people are more occupied with diets and thinness than ever before and we have never been fatter. As I mentioned earlier, one diet says eat carbohydrates (sugar) and very little fat and another diet declares, eat only Protein (fat) and very little sugar. Another diet says, only eat fat and carbohydrates in certain combinations and certain times a day (Talk about being occupied) all of these diets have Doctors and experts who can, and will substantiate their claims with an appearance of wisdom. God is not the author of confusion!

I Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

Jesus doesn’t want us to be burdened by all these rules. That’s why Jesus died so we don’t need to live by laws and regulations. In reality, all these laws do is make us more engrossed on the forbidden like the people at the resort who fished off the balcony.

Review Colossians 2:23, The last part of this passage holds the real key 23These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.
In your own words, express what the preceding three passages mean to you. _____________
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All of these rules and regulations are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh. Consider the diets you have been on, have any of these "man-made" rules made you desire less food? __________________________________________________ ________________

They all have an appearance of wisdom; however, they do little to change the heart. All they do is cover up the problem they don’t heal the wound.

We have tried all the world has to offer; now it’s time to turn to Jesus. He is the only one who can transform you and heal your wounded heart.

Read Matthew 11:28-30 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." We are heavy laden by all the rules and regulation of dieting. In Jesus, we can have rest from the burden.
Notice Jesus doesn’t say learn about me, He says learn from me. That suggests a relationship. In your own words, write what the phrase, “learn from me” means to you. ____ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________

How has your being overweight made you feel Punished? ____________________________
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Let’s see what Bible has to say about this old sinful nature.

Read Romans 6:1-23 1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. 13 And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! 16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? 17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. 18 And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.

20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord

Do you feel like a slave to overeating and your weight? ______
When I was overweight I didn’t want to go any were or do anything, nothing fit right, I felt like people were thinking bad things about me.

Being a slave to sin brings death, and always leads to bad things Being a slave to God always leads to good things, Sin equals: fat, self hate, fights, by contrast Righteousness equals: being thin, healthy, self love, love of others, etc. When sin has control over you, it affects your life and the life of your family, you want to stop but you can’t. You are a spiritual slave to it. Those who are without Christ are slaves to sin, but we who are believers in Christ are free from this bondage. Because Jesus has set us free. When you are following Christ and doing His will, you feel full of vitality. Everything feels light and clean and the whole world seems so much better. You have to receive this in faith.

Fill in the following blanks with the words me and I. Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over _____, for ____ am not under law but under grace.
You are free from sin it does not have power over you. The Bible says you are in control you can make a decision. I am sorry to say I use “I Can’t” and I have the power and authority to say, “I will”. Say the preceding scripture to yourself and Satan, whenever you feel helpless to resist his lies.

John 8:36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
This scripture says we are free, yet we still hold on to the chains that used to bind us. The lock is broken but we are holding the chains together because Satan has us convinced we are still bound by them. He is a liar, but, we are not blameless, we allow him to convince us with a lie, because it gives us great excuses. Jesus makes it clear, we are without an excuse, He has set us free. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

When you seek to gratify your own desire we become a spiritual two year old, you want what you want, when you want it! You are being prideful you don’t want to submit to Gods plan for your life.

We fight against this nature all the time but there is a right and a wrong way to fight. It’s only through faith we can be set free from this bondage and become a new creation in Christ, its not rules its power.

Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.

When baptized unto Christ, it symbolizes the old man dieing to self and arising as a new creation. There are many scripture references on the new man, read the ones I have listed pray, spend time in quiet meditation with God ask what He wants to show you.
READ: Romans 8, II Corinthians 5:17 and Colossians 3:10-17

In light of today’s study, what was the scripture or statement in today’s lesson that most spoke to your heart? __________________________________________________ ________
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What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? ____________________
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Rephrase the scripture or statement into an expression of faith_________________________
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I Corinthians 10: 31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

Ryanne
10-09-2009, 09:47 AM
...that so many things are speaking to me. I will be coming back to this lesson today, God willing, and will ponder it throughout the day.
I read something by Joyce Meyer today, in her daily devotional, and I would like to paste it here. I hope it will bless you all as it did me.


Worship Is Wisdom
October 9

The reverent fear and worship of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom.
— Psalm 111:10

If you will read the book of Proverbs and look at all the radical promises that are made to the person who walks in wisdom, and then realize that reverence and worship are the beginning of wisdom, you will quickly see why reverence and worship are so important.

The Bible says that those who walk in wisdom will be wealthy. They will live a long life. They will be exceedingly happy. They will be blessed, so blessed that they will be envied (See Proverbs 3:1-18). But there is no such thing as wisdom without worship.

Many people today are seeking knowledge, and knowledge is good, but wisdom is better. Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. Knowledge without wisdom can cause one to be puffed up, or filled with pride, which will ultimately ruin his life. A wise person will always be knowledgeable, but not all knowledgeable people are wise. I believe that in our society today, we exalt knowledge more than we should. Education seems to be most people's main goal, and yet our world today is rapidly declining morally.

Education is good, but it is not better than wisdom. God's Word tells us to cry out for wisdom; seek it as we would silver and gold; make it a vital necessity in life. There is nothing more important than wisdom, and the beginning of it is reverence and worship. The worshiper will be taught wisdom by God.


From the book New Day, New You: 365 Devotions for Enjoying Everyday Life by Joyce Meyer. Copyright © 2007 by Joyce Meyer. Published by FaithWords. All rights reserved.

Kelli
10-09-2009, 10:49 AM
Good Morning,

Ryann, I love Joyce Meyer, I have some of her books too. Every time I watch her on TV, I laugh out loud. She not only has so much wisdom, but her delivery makes her so fun to listen to her. Last time I watched her on TV, she was at a conference and doing an alter call. Thousands of people walked down the isle to receive Christ. I was so overcome with gratitude for all those God was bringing into the family, I just bawled. Thank you for posting that :).



Being overweight doesn't mean you are weaker than thin folks are, it just means you have tried harder to lose weight. Don’t believe me? Continue reading Romans 7 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, THE SINFUL PASSIONS WHICH WERE AROUSED BY THE LAW were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

When I first wrote today's lesson, the verse above (esp the bold) was a real revelation for me. I had the realization that my trying so hard to resist temptation was what was causing the obsession. My resisting the foods I loved is what was making me fat!!!


That I was free of condemnation, and guilt, amazed me. I grew up Mormon, and not saying this is how it is with all LDS folks, but my mom (I love her) controlled us nine kids with guilt. So most of my life my gasoline was guilt. This lesson is so long because God was really dealing with many issues (and still is).

8-12 Don't you remember how it was? I do, perfectly well. The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of "forbidden fruit" out of it. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me. Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it. But once sin got its hands on the law code and decked itself out in all that finery, I was fooled, and fell for it.

Seriously when I don't resist and just the resist the temptation not to pray and ask for help, it is just no big deal to give it up.

my friends, this is something like what has taken place with you. When Christ died he took that entire rule-dominated way of life down with him and left it in the tomb, leaving you free to "marry" a resurrection life and bear "offspring" of faith for God. For as long as we lived that old way of life, doing whatever we felt we could get away with, sin was calling most of the shots as the old law code hemmed us in. And this made us all the more rebellious.

I am still struggling with just giving it over to God and forgetting it!!! I want to think back on what I have eaten to make sure it wasn't too much or the right kind of stuff... AAARRRGGG!

Ryann, I know you are going through tough times, and I am amazed that you just keep seeking and seeing the good that God brings. You are an ispiration to me and God is not only using you now to help us and others, but I just know He will use your lifes story in a way that will inspire many. :hug:

AAARRRGGG! again, I don't have enough time to talk about Bootsies and Trish's posts, that they posted last night, but I will be back later, have a wonderful day ladies!

Love, Kelli

pattygirl63
10-09-2009, 05:23 PM
:wave:Hi Everyone,

I for one never thought about God wanting to be a part of my weight loss plan. For some reason, I saw dieting separate from that part of my life. However, many times when I would start a new diet, I would really pray that God would let this new diet work for me. I was always asking Him to lead me to a diet that would work, but I didn't ask Him to show me what to eat except for one time.

I had heard of a woman who lost weight because she asked the Lord to show what to eat. I decided to "try" this, but back at that time I don't think I thought He even told me anything. I don't think I was ready to even listen to the Lord.

Do you think your problem could be, you have been trying to change the food and not your mind/heart?

ABSOLUTELY!!! I never thought of needing to change my heart/mind concerning food. When we were born again, we learned that we were to repent of our sins. We learned that repent means to change our mind or way of thinking to God's way of thinking about the way we live. I really have to wonder why we didn't know this applied to our way eating and thoughts about food as well?

It really is difficult to think that way when "every" function in church has food around it. Our church serves pastry food before breakfast with coffee. There is coffee and pastrys for everyone at Bible Study and it goes on and on. In the church I was in back in TX, we had a big dinner after church one Sunday every month to celebrate the birthdays of everyone that month. Our Friday morning Bible study always ended with a big meal. Why would anyone think God wanted to have anything to do with what we ate when we make it the center of our gatherings.

Even my neighborhood get togethers are based around food. Then you add all the commercials. Not only do they advertise what they want to sell you to eat, they turn around and advertise a diet you should start. I mean everywhere you go, it is food, food, and more food.

I am so grateful to learn that God really does care about what, when and how much I eat. He loves me that much. Who knew that when we became a New Creature in Christ and made Jesus Lord of our lives, that He wanted to be Lord of our food too.

I appreciate the scripture 2 Corinthians 5:17 "old things have passed away: behold all things have become new". We no longer had to do the old things we used to do; we are now free to do things in a "new" way which is God's Way. We received the all the Fruit of the Spirit when we were born again? I'm not sure I was aware of that. I remember thinking I need self-control. I wasn't aware that I had it.

Reading this lesson made me realize how unwise it is for a Christian to go to the world for answers for diets. Just think of how many diets there are and they are all so confusing. Everyone of them have the "secret" to losing weight. Stop and think about that. How can "everyone" have "the secret". Yes, I do believe there may be times when we should eat a certain way for health reasons, such when you are allergic to certain foods etc. But I don't think a book can tell everyone the "one" secret to losing weight. The fact that there are sooooo many diets out there is a good example of how :devil: deception works to keep us confused and searching for the next diet "secret".

I am so thankful that the Lord does care about my weight loss and my health and that He does know my body better than any one else, even me. So who better to lead guide and direct me when it comes to eating. I realize now that He has been telling me for a long time how I should eat, but I actually thought it was "my" idea. I think that is the hard part for me is knowing when it is really the Lord speaking to me. I think that is because of my low self esteem. I need to trust Him more when He speaks to me.

Sorry, I feel like I've roamed here. Perhaps it was me just thinking things out for myself.

Blessings to all.

pattygirl63
10-09-2009, 05:30 PM
...that so many things are speaking to me. I will be coming back to this lesson today, God willing, and will ponder it throughout the day.
I read something by Joyce Meyer today, in her daily devotional, and I would like to paste it here. I hope it will bless you all as it did me.


Worship Is Wisdom
October 9

The reverent fear and worship of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom.
— Psalm 111:10

If you will read the book of Proverbs and look at all the radical promises that are made to the person who walks in wisdom, and then realize that reverence and worship are the beginning of wisdom, you will quickly see why reverence and worship are so important.

The Bible says that those who walk in wisdom will be wealthy. They will live a long life. They will be exceedingly happy. They will be blessed, so blessed that they will be envied (See Proverbs 3:1-18). But there is no such thing as wisdom without worship.

Many people today are seeking knowledge, and knowledge is good, but wisdom is better. Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. Knowledge without wisdom can cause one to be puffed up, or filled with pride, which will ultimately ruin his life. A wise person will always be knowledgeable, but not all knowledgeable people are wise. I believe that in our society today, we exalt knowledge more than we should. Education seems to be most people's main goal, and yet our world today is rapidly declining morally.

Education is good, but it is not better than wisdom. God's Word tells us to cry out for wisdom; seek it as we would silver and gold; make it a vital necessity in life. There is nothing more important than wisdom, and the beginning of it is reverence and worship. The worshiper will be taught wisdom by God.


From the book New Day, New You: 365 Devotions for Enjoying Everyday Life by Joyce Meyer. Copyright © 2007 by Joyce Meyer. Published by FaithWords. All rights reserved.

Thanks for sharing this Ryanne. I have that book, maybe I should get out and read it again. I used to read a chapter of Proverbs everyday. Years ago, I read that Billy Graham does that so I started doing that. I need to get back to that again as well. I absolutely love Proverbs.

Have a good one. Blessings,

Ryanne
10-09-2009, 05:43 PM
...but I think what is speaking to me most is this statement: "We fight against this nature all the time but there is a right and a wrong way to fight. It’s only through faith we can be set free from this bondage and become a new creation in Christ, its not rules its power."

It's not rules it's power. That is a powerful statement. I thank you for this, because it is really an eye opener. I was craving something sweet and I was asking God to help me to get through it, but then when I read this and I said, "God I give You my cravings and my desires"...it went away. I need to remember to give it to God and allow Him to do it, instead of me trying to resist and it becoming difficult.
Thank You, Kelli.
Today is a much better day...my circumstances haven't changed much, but I got some rest and a fresh attitude. I decide I am going to enjoy my day.
Thank you for your concern, Kelli.
Trish,
Ya, When we were born again, we received the Fruit of the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit lives in us. So the Fruit He bears through us is love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness and self control, (if I missed any I'm sorry). Anyway, we were purchased by the Blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit is our SEAL... Kinda like a "wedding ring".
Anyway, Trish I completely understand what you are saying regarding that, and yes, it is nice to know that God is concerned with our way of eating, too.
I'm glad for this study...I remember a long time ago, Joyce Meyer did a study about eating this way, covering a lot of what Kelli covers, but Kelli's I think goes into way more detail. I'm glad I had Joyce's teaching back then, and I walked in victory for a while, but now with Kelli's teaching I know that I will continue to walk in victory because it is in depth and I have you guys to do this with. Back then, I was alone...and when you get confused or whatever, there is no one to say, "Hey, think about this, do you think it is wise, because this could happen"... or just to get all of your ideas...it is making it soooo much easier.
I am glad to know I have all of you to go through this with, walking out of the bondage and into the freedom with you all is nice. I want to stay free!
Today I babysat for my granddaughter, it was a blessing to be able to hold her while she took a nap and just look at how peaceful she is brought such a peace to me. God is so good to give us babies in our lives...baby animals, human babies, it doesn't matter, I am grateful to God for babies.
I would like to have one more before I get toooooo old to have one...so if God puts it on your all's hearts to pray for me, I would appreciate it, I want HIS will, though, and not mine. I want His best plan for my life.
I heard tomorrow morning it is supposed to freeze here. Wow, it is really early for that. This morning when I went out for my morning walk, it was so cold and windy, but I did bundle up and put on gloves. It was still a wonderful walk.
Well, I'll get off here for now, but I will be back on later to read any responses that might come. I, too, look forward to reading all these comments every day.
I love you all! :D

pattygirl63
10-09-2009, 10:49 PM
Ya, When we were born again, we received the Fruit of the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit lives in us. So the Fruit He bears through us is love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness and self control, (if I missed any I'm sorry). Anyway, we were purchased by the Blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit is our SEAL... Kinda like a "wedding ring".


Thank you Ryanne for sharing that. I only came to the knowledge of the fact that you cannot lose your salvation recently. I believed I was secure, but just learned the security of the Seal of the Holy Spirit. I love your discription of like a "wedding ring".

I have that book of Joyce Meyer. I just found it the other day as I had misplaced. I followed it too and did good for a while. In fact, I lost a lot of weight using it and then I'm not too sure what happened that I got away from it.

I agree that it is easier when we have each other to share our feelings with.

Thanks again to Kellie for sharing with us.

Bootsie I hope all is well with you.

Bootsie
10-09-2009, 11:07 PM
I came earlier but it would not let me post again. I have that book Ryanne by Joyce Meyers in fact i have a-lot of her books. When my sister died she sent me two tapes to try to help me free of charge . You know not many would do that, but she did. i still have them and i listen to them a-lot even loaned them out, thought i would never get them back but did. So glad too but now my tape machine don't work! I think one of the best studies and i still am not through with it is Me and my BIG MOUTH! Love it, she kinda just nips it in the bud. Has the work book with it too. I thought I kinda needed to study it since I rattle off at the mouth sometimes before thinking. I never have beat around the bush on things just let the words flow and boy does that get me in a heap of trouble. I also have straight talk by Joyce Myers that I love to read. It is so strange I can hear her voice when I read it. I love one thing she says, Endings always bring new beginnings. That really hit home. Well now I got to talking and thinking about Joyce and forgot what is on Bible Study and it is on another page .Well I will be back if it lets me come back, if not y'all have a great day tomorrow and it looks like in November I will be traveling, don't rightly know which day yet.

Bootsie
10-09-2009, 11:12 PM
Ok girls now it will not let me read the Bible Study!!!! I am getting so tired of this! Kelli I will just go to your site and read it!

Kelli
10-09-2009, 11:13 PM
Hello Ladies!!

Ryann, I am so glad you are feeling better. Man you are really having to depend on God. Thank God He is dependable. If your like me, I feel like when I am in a struggle or trial that I just stumble around all over the place, than I look back and see how God worked through it, and am amazed. It seems like such a slow process to us, and it's so hard to trust (anyway for me) but that's how we learn to trust.


Joyce Meyer did a study about eating this way

It's funny you guys talk about Joyce Meyer writing a diet book, for so many years I have kept myself away from "diet" books because I had tried so many before... but now that I am basically finished with the study (except the editing) Maybe I should look for this book. Is it really the same way of eating???? That is so exciting to me because it's a confirmation.

I know I have talked about Mylissa before... She called tonight and told us she lost her job, so hopefully she will move back in with us, my daughter happens to be going to Salt Lake next week so she could pick her up! Please pray for her. She is so sweet and she loves Jesus, but gets so messed up (she had a tough life). I would love it if she would stay long enough with us to go to college and get a degree... That's her dream.

Love, Kelli

Bootsie
10-09-2009, 11:22 PM
Oh Kelli this is my favorite Bible study! I had forgot all about this one till now! Thanks for the free face lift it always made me smile when i read:
“Mama did you know Tayler was playing with the neighbors mouse and didn’t even wash her hands?”
I just love children! I will be praying for Melissa, just talked to my daughter a few minutes ago and we are planning our trip.

Bootsie
10-09-2009, 11:30 PM
Kelli it is called Eat & Stay Thin Simple,Spiritual and Satisfying weight Control by Joyce Meyer it was pretty good but at the last she kinda lost me seems like . I guess maybe i need to read it again.I know now what it is that I just did not understand. She is teaching seems like the same way of eating Kelli as you do. Kelli you will like this book. Thank you Ryanne for bringing this book to my attention again, for I never heard of eating what you want till your full till I heard of Intuitive eating . I remember now what was going through my mind at the end , now that don't make a heap of sense to me...it is because at that time i did not understand what she was talking about but now I do! So I am going to read it again!

Ryanne
10-10-2009, 12:50 AM
Yes, Bootsie, I am glad that it brought interest to you again. Kelli, as Bootsie said, the book is called Eat and Stay Thin. I really think that you will find the confirmation you are looking for.
I'm glad we all have Joyce in common. She is so down to earth! I just love her and her ministry has helped me more than I will even ever know until I get to heaven.
Bootsie, I, too, have a mouth problem, I think a lot of us do. I have been "practicing" listening twice as much as I talk. Boy it's HARD sometimes....LOL... I love you guys!
Trish, You're so welcome! You are such a blessing!
I had sold my copy, so I just went on Amazon to buy it....lol. Now it's peaked my interest again. I used to have almost every book by her, and ended up selling them at a garage sale or on ebay when I moved. I wish I wouldn't have sold all of it, but God is good...and He will get me what I need. Have a good evening all! :grouphug:

Ryanne
10-10-2009, 08:42 AM
Week 2 Day 2
Establish Being Occupied With Food and Your Weight Is Idolatry

Day ___________________________ Date ___________________________

Definitions:
Idol: A false God: and object of passionate devotion excessive devotion.
Idolize: to make an idol of, greed selfish desire beyond reason.
Idolatry as, "To put your trust, Love, devotion in anything other than God."

The Neilson Illustrated Bible Dictionary says, “In the New Testament period, the term idolatry began to be used as an intellectual concept. Idolatry became not the actual bowing down before a statue but the replacement of God in the mind of the worshiper.”

Read Colossians 3:5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.
Put to death covetousness, which is idolatry. I like how the NIV Bible interprets it: Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires, and greed which is idolatry. What does the word greed mean to you? _________
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The dictionary defines it as a selfish desire beyond reason. When you desire food past the point of satisfaction, you desire food beyond reason. The over eater must understand the vicious nature of idolatry. While we may not make or bow down to a

statue we have to be on guard constantly so we don’t let food and the obsession to be thin come between God and us. As soon as it does it becomes an idol, and being over weight is the evidence.

Some of the synonyms for greed are; gluttony, voracity, ravenousness, hunger and self-indulgence, sound familiar? The Antonym for greed is moderation.

Besides food, idols can be material objects such as houses, land, cars, also people or those whom we love. Objects of worship can even include things like fame, reputation, hobbies, pride and deeds done in the name of the Lord. Any overindulgence i.e. greed is Idolatry. When you over eat you are greedy for more food than you body needs.

Idolatry is a dangerous and deceitful sin. No wonder the prophets preached against it so often and so strongly.

An idol is defined as; a false god on object of passionate devotion. How many times have you hidden food or waited until you were alone to eat and then been angry when you were interrupted. God showed me how greedy and passionately devoted I was to my god one day in a somewhat humorous but sobering way, but before I tell you this story I need to preface it with a confession of a couple of my many weaknesses.

I have a little aversion to germs in food and a terrible phobia of mice. I go into hysterics and panic when I see one.

Now on with my story; My favorite thing to eat in the whole world is warm pecan pie ala mode and I couldn’t wait until the kids went outside to play because I had made a pecan pie, and there were only three pieces left and five people in my family!

By the time my girls finally went outside, I was lusting for my treat. There I was all alone with my love. Even though I wasn’t the slightest bit hungry, I thought I had better steal the chance while I had it.

I lovingly cut a large piece of the delicious treat, put it on a small decorative desert plate and placed it in the microwave and set the time so it would be the perfect temperature, I got the vanilla ice cream out of the freezer. I was thinking about how wonderful the warm pie taste with the cold ice cream. Right on time the microwave beeped signaling my pie was the ideal temperature. I adoringly pulled my sweet prize out and put the frozen ice cream on the pie.

Just then, the front door slamming interrupted the moment I was having with my lover. I immediately got angry with the person who would break up my stolen moment. I decided they were out to get me and came in at this moment just to bug me.

My darling but willful five-year-old, Tayler, came in and climbed up on the stool in front of me saying, “I want a piece.”

Although this made me angry, I held my temper in check, as I was still sane enough to appreciate I was being unreasonable.

I passed her my piece of pie and began to cut another from the pie in the refrigerator.
She decided the perfect piece of pie I had given her was not good enough and started poking it with her tiny finger saying look it’s too hot to eat mama you made it too hot.

My temper was mounting, and my sanity level was plummeting, looking at her petulant face and watching her little finger poking holes all over the thing of my affection. Gritting my teeth, I said, “fine!" and slid the cold piece of pie her direction knowing full well this would not satisfy her.

Soon, we were nose to nose mouths wide open each throwing a doozey of a tantrum, trying to out shout each other, she howling and crying and me yelling.

Finally, I sent her to her room, because I’m the biggest. I sat down determined to eat my pie still fuming.

Looking at what had once been my masterpiece and now was a protuberant lump full of holes, cold pie swimming in warm separated white watery "goo" that used to be ice cream, but I was still determined to eat it, muttering at how she had spoiled everything because now I couldn’t even enjoy my pie—because of the guilt—

I cut a piece with my fork, raised it to my mouth... When my nine year old; who had walked in just before the tantrum episode, and was a witness to the unholy melee said calmly,

“Mama did you know Tayler was playing with the neighbors mouse and didn’t even wash her hands?”
That was it! I totally lost control, I was about to do something Tayler would have been punished for. I raised my fork behind my ear and was getting ready to fling it, when God chose that moment sweetly speaking to my raging heart, in a still, small, un-condemning, voice.
“You love this pie more than you love anything.”

I was so convicted, as I sat there I realized, I had been worshiping, adoring and loving that mess more than my children, and most of all my Lord. I had completely lavished all my love and affection on this god. It was my golden calf and I was worshiping at its feet.

If you give your affection and love to the one who truly deserves it, He will fill your life with joy. Anything you give up he will replace with something better.

Read: Psalm 107:9 For He satisfies the longing soul, And fills the hungry soul with goodness.

Do you feel satisfied or filled with goodness after you have eaten the forbidden food, and by forbidden, I mean something you eat when you’re not physically hungry, or does it leave you feeling empty and longing for more? You have a hunger for God and are seeking satisfaction else were. Food will never satisfy you. It wall always leave a craving more.

Read I Corinthians 10:14-32 Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to wise men; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we, though many, are one bread and one body; for we all partake of that one bread.

18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? 19 What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? 20 Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons. 22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?

23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. 24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other’s well-being.

25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience’ sake; 26 for “the earth is the LORD’s, and all its fullness.”

27 If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question for conscience’ sake. 28 But if anyone says to you, “This was offered to idols,” do not eat it for the sake of the one who told you, and for conscience’ sake; for “the earth is the LORD’s, and all its fullness.” 29 “Conscience,” I say, not your own, but that of the other. For why is my liberty judged by another man’s conscience? 30 But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?

31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God,
Write I Corinthians 10:21 __________________________________________________ __
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Contemplate this scripture; mull it over in your mind. Write how it makes you feel to think when you overeat you are communing, Fellowshipping, with demons? __***_______________
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When I read this passage, it made me sick! The sickening part of this is the objects of worship are actually demons. You can make anything a god, but in doing so you are worshiping or communing with Satan, dictionary.com defines communing as;

1. To converse or talk together, usually with profound intensity, intimacy, etc.; interchange thoughts or feelings.
2. To be in intimate communication or rapport: to commune with nature.
–noun
3. Interchange of ideas or sentiments.

It’s a hard thought to think, but let’s be honest; when I was in such a rage over the pie, I wasn't worshipping God. The object wasn't a threat, the pie isn't dangerous. The danger is the demons associated with the idol.

What do you think verse twenty-three from the above scripture, means when it says: All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify? __________________________________________________ ___________
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We have liberty, yes, we are not under the law we can do whatever and still go to heaven. Overeating and the desire to be thin is not a sin in itself (v23 all things are lawful…). What makes a sin a sin is how you feel about it. If you make something an idol, including the desire to be thin, you have placed it above God and are communing with demons.

Read: Mark 12:30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength. This is the first commandment.

Love the Lord your God with all your heart. It’s your soul that’s hungry not your stomach. Feed it with the Word of God. Go to your true God and worship at His feet. He will satisfy your needy soul.

Read: Psalm 107:1-9

In light of today’s study, what was the scripture or statement in today’s lesson that most spoke to your heart? __________________________________________________ ________
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What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? ____________________
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Memorize the following scripture this week.

I Corinthians 10: 31 _________, whether you eat or drink, or ________ you do, do all to the ______ of God.

pattygirl63
10-10-2009, 09:20 AM
Good Morning Girls,

I found my Joyce Meyer book when I cleaned out an end table. I think everything is in timing. I started reading again. Just read the intro so far, but it goes along so well with Kellie's lessons so I think I'm going to get a double blessing. If I remember right, she does not give a diet to use as she kind of goes more in tune with Intuitive Eating from what I've read so far. I don't know if she tells it in this book or another book of hers called Look Great Feel Great. But she does tell that she has to eat lowcarb for her body type. I think she pretty much seems to feel everyone has to find what works for them. I want to read the 2 again, but start with Eat and Stay Thin first.
I too thank you so much Ryanne for bringing the book to my attention. And I think it is great that we all are so touched by her. She has really touched my life and the life of my "new" family.

When Tony and I married, I kept his grandchildren especially youngest granddaughter. Little did we know that a year or so after we married that their Daddy would leave the family for another woman. Joyce had just come out with her 2 books for children and teens. I purchased the books for the oldest grandson and the oldest daughter. Tyler was becoming a teen and Haley was in elementary school. Her books came out just in time to get them through the breakup of their family and really helped them. Also Battle Field of the Mind was out then and I was able to help them see how :devil: had worked in their Daddy's mind. They heard Joyce Meyer so much from me as I tried to help them through this time. I think the best compliment I ever heard from anyone in my whole life was one day as we were going some where in the car, Tyler said, "Nannie, you could be another Joyce Meyer". I wanted to cry. It is one of my cherished moments with him. How wonderful to have your grandchild (we bonded so I feel totally they are God's gift to me) feel that way about you. He is a remarkable young man. He helps teach and gives testimonies at church and he an a young Christian girl he has met in high school have started a group in their school to help new Christians learn how to walk with Jesus and live their Christian life. I tell him all the time that his "real" grandmother who went to heaven 2 years before Tony and I met and married, would be so proud of him. I believe she prays for him even in heaven.

Bootsie It is so good to hear from you and I do pray that things get worked out with your computer problems.

Kellie Again thank you so much. And I will be praying for your
Mylissa. I don't know her situation, I'm sure she will get things worked out. She has you to guide her. Sometimes it takes a while. It took me a while to get my life straightened out, but is so Good to always be there to guide and help us.

Got to get to my Devotional time and read next lesson. So will be back later to share what speaks to me.

Later.

Ryanne
10-10-2009, 12:18 PM
23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. 24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other’s well-being.

31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.


The thing that I am most impressed with today is the above. I know that I need to be the one who tells my body what it is going to do and not give it a chance to explain what it wants. I am not interested in what my flesh wants. It's not helpful to me.
I get to decide and I tell my body what it is going to do...like an athlete, I treat it roughly and make it do what it should.
I have a story: I have been gaining weight this week, every morning for three days, I watched it creep up pound by pound...then today I stepped on the scale and it was up two more pounds!!! Arrrghhh, so I was like "GOD WHAT IS GOING ON HERE????!!!!" I was saying, I'm not snacking between meals and then I felt like He was telling me I was. Well, I haven't been "eating" I have been drinking MILK and not just milk, but milk with malt flavor, milk with chocolate flavor, milk with strawberry flavor...etc...and grape juice...etc... I had been "drinking my snacks" and I know my body doesn't handle sugar well, so I got rid of the flavors I put in the milk, and will only drink milk with meals if I want it...Wow.
Also, God showed me that I have been eating too much salt, which I am NOT supposed to do, and my fingers were swollen and hurting, now I know that I have been being led to drink more water, and I drank more milk...and I was also getting a check about the salt, and did it my own way in the name of "liberty"...well...it just goes to show that God does know our bodies, just like I had so much trouble with the artificial sweetener in the diet soda. Hmmmm....my eating and "drinking" need to glorify God, and if I am doing things that harm my body, that is NOT glorifying God. So today, I threw out the "baked lays" that I bought, and I threw away the flavorings, and I will make this weeks menu and make my body eat what it should. I was going to keep the malted stuff around for my son, but God showed me that he doesn't need all that sugar, either! LOL... wow... I know I will be asking His help in making my menu and grocery list and to bless my shopping. The Bible says to not make provision to fulfill the lust of my flesh, and just as Trish said, I will not be bringing those things into my home again.
Wow, God is sooooo good!!! So, My FREEDOM my LIBERTY is in being able to follow the Spirit and not being subject to my flesh, but that my flesh is subject to ME! I GET TO CHOOSE, I GET TO DECIDE!!! That is true liberty! Not to fulfill the lust of the flesh is my liberty. For me, sugar begets sugar, salt begets salt, but also, water begets water, and vegies beget vegies...etc.
Well, I need to go get the laundry out of the dryers and get it all folded and or hung up, and I need to run to the grocery for this week's supply, so I will be back on later. I'm so glad that you guys are here. :D

pattygirl63
10-10-2009, 01:32 PM
Wow, God is sooooo good!!! So, My FREEDOM my LIBERTY is in being able to follow the Spirit and not being subject to my flesh, but that my flesh is subject to ME! I GET TO CHOOSE, I GET TO DECIDE!!! That is true liberty!

Ryanne We are thinking along the same lines. Let me share a quote from Joyce Meyer's book Eat and Stay Thin page 28 "In God's terms, freedom does not mean the liberty to give in to the desires of the flesh. It means the liberty to be led by the Holy Spirit. Roman's 8:12 - 14." I like the title of her first chapter "The Flesh Wants to do Crazy Things".

Boy does that fit with today's lesson. What really stood out to me when I studied this before was greed. I never thought of overeating or even eating what my body cannot tolerate would fall under greed. My story.

For many years I ate low carb and I lost almost 70 lbs. to get rid of diabetes 2. Then I started gradually adding more and more carbs. The Holy Spirit would impress on me that I needed to get back to low carbing, but I just ignored it. Oh I would try, but there are so many carby foods that I "my flesh" craved. Now, once in a while when I was faithfully doing low carb, I could have a carby foods like when we celebrated a special occasion I would plan ahead of time what I wanted. I learned this from a book I read of a woman who wrote how she lost weight doing low carb. She said if you didn't make it a regular habit that you could do that and not gain or continue losing depending on where you are in the process. But I got greedy. I wanted more and more carby foods. When I was working the plan it worked great.

The Holy Spirit has been strongly impressing on me that I need to get back to my lowcarbing. When I learned about the gluten intolerance, I was impressed with the thought that when you low carb, you don't eat grains thus no problem with gluten. The Holy Spirit knew this and He has been trying to lead me, but I wasn't listening.

This morning, I did start back on lowcarb. And then I read the lesson. When we eat more than we are supposed to eat of anything and when we eat foods that are harmful to our bodies like I have been doing, we are eating with the :devil: demons. OUCH!!! That hurts and grieves me to even think of it that way. But I need to see it as what it is. When we obey the Holy Spirt, we are in fellowship with the Lord and working with Him. When we disobey, we are in fellowship with the :devil:. Let's face it; there are only 2 choices... Obey God's way or disobey and follow :devil:'s way. We are duped into thinking a lot of things are "our" thoughts or ideas, but this isn't true. Thoughts have one of 2 sources... God's or the enemy. We have to make the Choice of which one we are going to decide to listen to and obey or follow.

I hope that this will help me to do better at listening to the Holy Spirit and to follow His leading. I can see that if I continue to listen to my flesh, etc, it will kill me as I am damaging my body. God is sooooo Good and so good to us. He has so much He wants to do for us and through us if we will just let Him.

Y'all have a great and blessed Saturday.

Kelli
10-10-2009, 03:52 PM
The lesson spoke to me in a different way today than it did for you guys. It spoke to me not about the issue of food, (since I don't have any intolerance for anything). It spoke to me about my obsession with dieting and guilt. I know it's not God accusing me of overeating. I weigh between 158 and 161, and according to the BMI standard, I am right on the cusp of normal to overweight.

I know that's not unhealthy for my height because the only health problems I had from being overweight were Joint pain and high blood pressure... My joints don't hurt anymore and I don't have to take blood pressure medicine anymore.

I know God has healed me of my addiction to food, but I have still felt that urge to diet. To count and fret and worry about what I have, or have not eaten. I'm done ladies, I give it to God.

Is the idea that I have to be stick-thin God's, or the media's? I am happy with myself. In fact I love myself, I think I will say... I'm done... Wow! I guess I'm done.

I fall into His arms and what will be will be.

I will eat... and every time a thought comes into my head about dieting, or guilt, or any argument, and every high thing that exalts itself against what God has taught me through studying His Word, I will bring it into captivity and say, "Jesus... Satan is knocking will you please answer it?" then move on. I know that my obedience is fulfilled. It's time...

Philippians 4:6 & 7 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

I Peter 5:10-11 But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you. 11 To Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. ...AMEN

pattygirl63
10-10-2009, 08:00 PM
Philippians 4:6 & 7 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.


Kellie This is my testimony scripture because this is how I have felt today. I am doing Atkins diet. When I woke up this morning, I just knew beyond all doubt in my heart that is what God wanted me to do. Once I repented, and committed to do what the Holy Spirit was telling me to do, everything changed. I still eat only when I am hungry not because I am supposed to eat. Not doing 3 meals and 2 snacks unless the Lord leads me to. I have allowed the Holy Spirit to show me what to eat only when I'm hungry. And I have to say that it has been a very blessed and peaceful day for me with no cravings. I have had three meals that could really be described more like snacks, but I'm satisfied and content. Since I've already given up some things like caffiene and been doing a semi-low carb thing, I haven't had the withdrawals I've had in the past when doing this. I can honestly say that when God does it, it is sooooo much easier and better.

Is the idea that I have to be stick-thin God's, or the media's? I am happy with myself. In fact I love myself, I think I will say... I'm done... Wow! I guess I'm done.

You know I read some where that we don't have to go by man's or the media's idea of what we should weigh. What I read said that we will know when we get to the weight we are comfortable with and that is healthy for us. I believe God's idea of a healthy weight is probably a lot different than what the world's idea is. I want to lose down to about 120 lbs, but a weight loss site where I checked what I should weigh for my age said more like 135 for my age etc.

I think it is great that you have made it to your place. Thanks for sharing that with us.

Ryanne
10-10-2009, 08:21 PM
Once I repented, and committed to do what the Holy Spirit was telling me to do, everything changed. I still eat only when I am hungry not because I am supposed to eat. Not doing 3 meals and 2 snacks unless the Lord leads me to. I have allowed the Holy Spirit to show me what to eat only when I'm hungry.

I can honestly say that when God does it, it is sooooo much easier and better.

You know I read some where that we don't have to go by man's or the media's idea of what we should weigh. What I read said that we will know when we get to the weight we are comfortable with and that is healthy for us. I believe God's idea of a healthy weight is probably a lot different than what the world's idea is.

I have my basic menu for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and it is good. I still will eat breakfast and lunch only if and when hungry and will still eat dinner as a family, since that is important to all of us.
I am so glad for today. I am glad that the Holy Spirit reminded me and retaught me that truth BEFORE I went to the grocery. He is right on time! I didn't feel bad about throwing out the chips and the flavorings, I felt good about it.
I also think that God's weight is different than that of the world's...I feel that 125 is a good weight for me.
I am soooo short, I am only 5'2" and that is a stretch...more like 5' 1 1/2".
Kelli, if you feel you are where you want to be, then I am glad for you. Congratulations. Thank you again for this study.
I am making dinner so I'll try to get back on later. :)

Bootsie
10-11-2009, 01:13 AM
Oh Kelli I wish i weighed in the 160's , someday.
Patty sugar busters is also I noticed like the Atkins diet and I do need to give up caffeine so i can sleep.
Last night i was sitting here, and all of a sudden I was starving , well I found some croutons 25 calories for 7 and i got me a cup of coffee. I had a small bowl of chicken and dumplings for supper ,well chicken makes me cluck like an old setting hen so I had indigestion. After i was full from the croutons, I was sitting here and I got dizzy sitting in the chair. { I think it might of been my left ear making me dizzy.}Well I had gobs of work to do before i even went to bed, so I got up to go put the washing in and i got so dizzy. Done that , took two aspirin and I went to bed! I needed to bake some cookies , wash the dishes, and clean house plus exercise. I baked the cookies this afternoon and then walked right out the door and forgot them!
I think I have a cold working on me and I have been resting all day but been fighting the hungry feeling. Been trying to only have cold foods, for my chest is sore from all the clucking I did last night. My husband said I wish I could belch like that I said Well I wish I could not for it hurts when I do. I just need to stay away from that chicken!!

Ryanne I am going to do some throwing out myself tomorrow. I think I am going to give the rest of the chicken and dumpling which was really good to my dogs and my cats.

Kelli
10-11-2009, 02:22 AM
Hi all,

Bootsies post made me remember, when I first started eating less food, I felt hungry all the time. Kind of a burning in my Stomach and sometimes I got a headaches. I figured out the stomach problems were excess acid. My stomach was used to more food, so it produced more acid and made me feel hungry all the time. My body took about two weeks to regulate the acid and I don't have that problem anymore.

Then I finally figured out the reason I was getting headaches was because I wasn't drinking enough water. We get a fair portion of the water our bodies need from the food we eat so when you are eating half or a forth of what you were used to, you need to drink more water.

Love, kelli

Ryanne
10-11-2009, 09:23 AM
Week 2 Day 3
Jesus, Satan is Knocking Will You Please Answer It
Day ___________________________ Date ___________________________

In the last study, we learned that when we idolize food and obsess about our weight, we are actually communing with demons. I know this is upsetting, especially when you feel you are powerless to stop, but God has the answer. The reason you are overweight is that while you are eating, you are in denial. When you are stuffing, you are zoned out; you set your rational thought aside, and just do it. Think about the moment you start to overeat. Your eating speeds up, because you zone out and go to denial or self-lies. You speed up because you want to get it down before rational thought returns.

Ephesians 4: 17-24 This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind, 18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; 19 who, being past feeling, have given themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

This Study is about being present in the moment. In the next few lessons, we’ll learn, God fights our battles. You will be learning how to employ His power. The first thing you need to learn is how to be present in the moment. That’s the new “fad phrase” but what does it mean? There is power in this moment right here. Our present moment shapes our future destiny, and determines how long you will be your present weight.

I mindlessly gave up so many of my moments. Probably 95% of our weight is due to mindless eating. Its called rationalization, when your not in the moment (or reality) The definition of rationalization is 1: to make something irrational appear rational or reasonable 2: to provide a natural explanation to (as a myth) 3: to justify one’s behavior or weakness especially to oneself 4: to find plausible yet untrue reasons for conduct.

I don’t know about you, but that hits home. This is how Satan gets you to sin. He provides great excuses, and because we want the second cupcake, we are all too willing to go along with it.

So how do we resist the temptation? Think about a sin that would be preposterous for you to do such as, committing murder, or shoplifting, something that is not a temptation to you at all. Now think about what would happen if Satan tempted you with it. You would laugh at the temptation; you would pass it up in your mind as being ridiculous, you wouldn’t even contemplate it. That’s why Satan doesn’t tempt you with those things. His method is to try to destroy you a little at a time. One little moment of weakness, one little suggestion, then another moment and another suggestion.

God is all-powerful, but because He has given you free will, He won’t do anything without your invitation, and your faith that He can do it. The battle is God’s but your part isn’t a passive one, you are the one that pulls the trigger and God is the bomb. Pulling the trigger is an emotional battle for you because you want the stupid cupcake, you want to zone out and be numb, but after you activate Gods power, it’s easy. How do you think you set God’s power in motion? What is the trigger? ___________________________________
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Faith and prayer, giving it to God, thinking positively about God’s power. You say, “God, Satan in knocking at the door, will you please answer it.” If Satan is still nagging you with rationalizations, put your hand on your stomach. Ask yourself “am I hungry?” Be in the moment, if you’re not hungry (don’t rationalize) pray more. Satan makes it a bigger deal than it is.

Proverbs 14:16* A wise man fears and departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident.

When Satan was tempting Jesus in the wilderness, he tried three times. He won’t just go away, stay in each moment, moment by moment; thinking confidently about God’s power, Satan will give up eventually.

James 4: 7-10 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

Bombard sin with prayer use the shock and awe war campaign against the enemy with bombs that are, relentless.

A typical scenario will be:
You’re going along great, your following Jesus, staying focused on Him. You’re feeling wonderful then you pop a mint in your mouth, which would be ok, other than you start to think it might be bad.

I Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

God wants you to understand this concept He says almost the same thing again.

I Corinthians 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.

So now, Satan has a foothold and begins his sinister attack. Then you pop another mint and another, you say to your self “it’s only a small candy it won’t hurt”, then you start to focus on the food, and love it, because it becomes a forbidden fruit. Next comes an extra meal your stomach didn’t ask for, “but you might be hungry!!!” It’s been an hour or two since your last meal, or your daughter brings home pizza after getting off work at the local pizza joint and you have already eaten dinner, but how many times do you get the unexpected pleasure of pizza? You tell yourself “I’ll just have a sliver of a piece”, and before you know it, you have eaten half a pizza, one sliver at a time. You’re are right back were you started, Satan is saying “You’ve blown it now any way, I guess God can’t help you after all” then your positive thoughts start to become more and more negative, one little thought at a time.

Does this sound familiar? When the little suggestion is first made, is the best time to take action, but you can take control at any time, in any moment this scenario takes place, with prayer and positive thoughts of Gods power. Pray, and ask God to forgive you, think positive thoughts and just start fresh and new with that. Don’t let it become the forbidden fruit, honestly, the best way for me to do that has been to simply say/pray, “Jesus, Satan is knocking …

You have a completely new moment to begin anew. Satan will come back, no doubt starting with something small and moving up, he will say you’ve already blown it, might as well give up.

The secret formula is prayer, and faith (positive thinking) knowing God will give you the power to resist. Just say no, ask God for help, say “God help me,” and believe He will protect you from this pizza. Be present in the moment, and then walk away, now! Just say no. If you can’t get away, pray the whole time. On the other hand, if you don’t want God’s help because you want the pizza too bad, ask God to help you ask for help. Say God right now I want this pizza I don’t want your help, please help me to want your help. IT WORKS. IT WORKS, IT WORKS. Any temptation can be handled this way. God will not forsake you. All the fighting we do is so unnecessary, if we could only get a sense of the power we possess through Jesus

Wrong thinking goes like this: You see a tempting treat, you fight with yourself for a millisecond but the way you fight is, “I have no self control, I can’t do it, and before you can ask God for strength (because you really want the treat) you stuff it in your mouth, you zone out with vague feelings of self contempt.

Guess what! I have fabulous news! You do have self-control.

Read Galatians 5:22-25 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

One of the attributes of being saved is you get all the fruits of the Spirit automatically, you don’t have to grow into them, they are yours. God won’t make you take them, but they are yours if you will have them.

Read Isaiah 40: 28-31 Have you not known? Have you not heard?*The everlasting God, the LORD, *The Creator of the ends of the earth, *Neither faints nor is weary. *His understanding is unsearchable. 29 He gives power to the weak, And to those who have no might He increases strength.** 30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary, And the young men shall utterly fall, 31 But those who wait on the LORD Shall renew their strength;*They shall mount up with wings like eagles,*They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint.

What does it mean to wait on the Lord? The Definition of the word wait is; 1: to remain inactive in readiness or expectation. To act as attendant or servant. To be ready. The synonyms for wait are, stay, remain, hang around, linger.

We try so hard to fix things when we are uncomfortable, we are like baby eaglets flapping our wings, working hard to fix our situation, crying and wondering why God would do this to us. Temptation, like all trials, is a test. God made tests to help you expand your knowledge and identify areas you need help. Don’t try to fight the temptation by flapping your wings and working hard. Rise above it wait for God, He will lift you up and rescue you.

When you are tempted, rise above it like an eagle. Eagles know when a storm is approaching before it breaks, and will fly high above the storm and wait for wind. When the storm hits, He sets his wings so the wind will pick him up and lift him above the storm. While the storm is raging below he is soaring above the tempest in peace. He doesn’t get away from the storm; he uses it to fly higher. He doesn’t flap his wings straining to fly higher, he barley moves his wings at all.

It’s hard to understand sometimes why God allows us to be tempted, and we feel so weak. Just like a baby eagle who doesn’t understand when the mom messes up their nest. She rips it to pieces until all the soft feather stuff is gone and all that’s left is stickers and hard stuff. If that’s not bad enough the momma eagle pushes the baby out of the nest! The baby flaps furiously trying hard to fly, and when all seems lost the momma swoops down and catches the baby on her back. She does this again, and again, until the baby eaglet learns to stop flapping and relax into the current. They glide effortlessly, rising higher and higher.

Read Deuteronomy 32:11,12 As an eagle stirs up its nest, Hovers over its young, Spreading out its wings, taking them up, Carrying them on its wings, 11 As an eagle stirs up its nest, Hovers over its young, Spreading out its wings, taking them up, Carrying them on its wings,

Trying to fight Satan will exhaust you. Just say, “Jesus, Satan is knocking will you answer it”? Then glide away, knowing God has taken care of it.

When you were saved, you received the Holy Spirit and one of the fruits, or attributes of having the Holy Spirit, is self-control. You see, Satan is a liar; he is the master of illusion, nothing more. That’s what he does, and you have been listening to his lies for so long you believe them. It is time to counter those lies.

Your goal is to be thin, but you have to reach many little goals before you can accomplish your main goal. You are not going to wake up one day at your goal weight. It will take many little battles and many little victories, one by one, moment by moment.

Isaiah 28:9, 10 “Whom will he teach knowledge?
******And whom will he make to understand the message?
******Those just weaned from milk?
******Those just drawn from the breasts?
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10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
******Line upon line, line upon line,
******Here a little, there a little.”

Remember Satan will flee if you resist him, but he tried tempting Jesus three times before he gave up, and he didn’t give up for good, the Bible says he went away, waiting for a more opportune moment.

Luke 4:12 13 Now when the devil had ended every temptation, he departed from Him until an opportune time.

God gave you a beautiful gift and it is time to start treating your body, soul and mind as such. Just you wouldn’t verbally attack your loved one, you will not allow your inner talk to ridicule, put down, or in any way abuse you. It is time to stop now. The Holy Bible says you have self-control. When you're having a hard time pulling away from that last bite, say to yourself “I have self control because I have the Holy Spirit.

II Chronicles 20:14-17 Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jahaziel the son of Zechariah, the son of Benaiah, the son of Jeiel, the son of Mattaniah, a Levite of the sons of Asaph, in the midst of the assembly. 15 And he said, “Listen, all you of Judah and you inhabitants of Jerusalem, and you, King Jehoshaphat! Thus says the LORD to you: ‘Do not be afraid nor dismayed because of this great multitude, for the battle is not yours, but God’s. 16 Tomorrow go down against them. They will surely come up by the Ascent of Ziz, and you will find them at the end of the brook before the Wilderness of Jeruel. 17 You will not need to fight in this battle. Position yourselves, stand still and see the salvation of the LORD, who is

Let’s see how God answers the door.

II Kings 6: 8-18 Now the king of Syria was making war against Israel; and he consulted with his servants, saying, “My camp will be in such and such a place.” 9 And the man of God sent to the king of Israel, saying, “Beware that you do not pass this place, for the Syrians are coming down there.” 10 Then the king of Israel sent someone to the place of which the man of God had told him. Thus he warned him, and he was watchful there, not just once or twice.
11 Therefore the heart of the king of Syria was greatly troubled by this thing; and he called his servants and said to them, “Will you not show me which of us is for the king of Israel?”

12 And one of his servants said, “None, my lord, O king; but Elisha, the prophet who is in Israel, tells the king of Israel the words that you speak in your bedroom.”

13 So he said, “Go and see where he is, that I may send and get him.”
And it was told him, saying, “Surely he is in Dothan.”

14 Therefore he sent horses and chariots and a great army there, and they came by night and surrounded the city. 15 And when the servant of the man of God arose early and went out, there was an army, surrounding the city with horses and chariots. And his servant said to him, “Alas, my master! What shall we do?”

16 So he answered, “Do not fear, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.” 17 And Elisha prayed, and said, “LORD, I pray, open his eyes that he may see.” Then the LORD opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw. And behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. 18 So when the Syrians came down to him, Elisha prayed to the LORD, and said, “Strike this people, I pray, with blindness.” And He struck them with blindness according to the word of Elisha.

You are God’s child, just as Elisha was. He never changes He is still fighting the enemy with chariots of fire. He answers the door with strength and power.

Genesis 14:11-16 Now the Valley of Siddim was full of asphalt pits; and the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled; some fell there, and the remainder fled to the mountains. 11 Then they took all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all their provisions, and went their way. 12 They also took Lot, Abram's brother's son who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed.

13 Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, for he dwelt by the terebinth trees of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and brother of Aner; and they were allies with Abram. 14 Now when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his three hundred and eighteen trained servants who were born in his own house, and went in pursuit as far as Dan. 15 He divided his forces against them by night, and he and his servants attacked them and pursued them as far as Hobah, which is north of Damascus. 16 So he brought back all the goods, and also brought back his brother Lot and his goods, as well as the women and the people.

17 And the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the Valley of Shaveh (that is, the King's Valley), after his return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him.
What do all the scriptures above have in common with each other? _____________________
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They were all small armies defended by God through faith.

When I would hear the phrase “leave it at the cross”, I thought it meant to stop sinning, give the sin to God and don’t pick it back up. I used to get so upset with myself because I couldn’t leave the sin at the cross and not pick it back up. I was addicted. Then I realized I had the phrase wrong, the phrase means to accept any answer from God. If God answers your prayer and stops you from overeating, praise Him. If He doesn’t and you continue to overeat, praise Him. This is why this is the hard part. It may not be God’s will for you to be thin yet, He may want to teach you something first, I say “yet” because I don’t believe God wants us to die addicted to anything, but you can’t do it on your own. Trying just makes you want it more. Surrender it to God’s will and be free from self-condemnation. Have faith in God, and know He has your best interest at heart.

The Good thing is, this takes all the pressure off you. You are giving it to God and therefore not obsessing over the law, eventually food will become a non-issue for you because it loses its magnetism, when it’s no longer the forbidden fruit.

Read Matthew 7: 7-10 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him.

What purpose would it serve your Father in heaven, if He let you down? The only hard part is breaking thru the emotional barrier, of wanting His help or sometimes it’s hard to believe God wants to help you.

Read I Corinthians 10:1-22

In light of today’s study, what was the scripture or statement in today’s lesson that most spoke to your heart? __________________________________________________ ________
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What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? ____________________
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Rephrase the scripture or statement into an expression of faith_________________________
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I Corinthians 10: 31 _________, ______ you _____ or ______, or ________ you do, do _____ to the ______ of God.

Ryanne
10-11-2009, 10:18 AM
There are so many things that I will be pondering today and I will come back to this lesson often today, God willing.
I like where you put that once the food is not a forbidden fruit you will lose interest. That is good. I have been losing interest slowly but surely and this message today is right on time.
Thank you again, for sharing your Bible Study with us.
It is a blessing.
I am going to go walking. It is soooo cold out, so I will be bundling up! You guys have a wonderful Sunday! I think I will walk to Church today, too.
I wanted to add something, God will not let us be tempted more than we can handle and he has capped how long the enemy can tempt us...it's usually one to three minutes. YOU CAN DO IT!!! To stay positive you can say something like "God will not allow me to be tempted more than I have the ability to resist, so I can resist this! I CAN HANDLE THIS CUZ MY DADDY SAID I CAN!"
:D

pattygirl63
10-11-2009, 07:14 PM
Good Evening Ladies,

I don't have much on this one today except to say that the fact that if we resist the devil that he WILL flee from us as the Word of God says. I heard a minister preach on this on day. He said that the devil is a created being... created originally as an angel. He likened angels to a computer. Angels were programed to do (obey) whatever the Word of God says. They were NEVER given the ability to choose as we are. So when we speak the Word of God to them as Jesus did when He was tempted, they have NO CHOICE... THEY HAVE TO FLEE!!! That gave me more understanding to the Power that Jesus gave us through the Holy Spirit.

Jesus is our example. He never really talked to the demons although they often spoke and even knew who He was. He would immediately command them to be quiet and they obeyed Him. If we had the faith as to who we are in Christ Jesus, I know we could do the same thing. We have the same Holy Spirit working in us He had and we have the right given to us by Jesus to use His name to speak the Word of God and when we put all that together and "speak" that Word against them... the HAVE TO FLEE. They have NO CHOICE.

I think many times that they persist to see if we really believe what we say and/or if we really mean what we say. It is totally up to us.

I don't think I ever blamed God for my being over weight. I just thought that I was the one who had to do something about it. I did believe that some how, some where, that if I kept seeking that He would show me the way and that someday I would find my answer. That is what He wants to do. We must ask Him and then take time to listen.

And I believe that I have found the answer for me and I am thoroughly convinced that He has led me to the answer. As I read through different writings on the Low Carb thread on 3fc, I came across some things I wrote back in July. I realized that God gave me the answer to my problem back then and because of me making carbs more important to me than the way He was leading me, I did not follow through. I made certain foods/carbs and idol and I got off track. These lessons have suddenly made me see what I've done. It is a combination physical and spiritual problem. I am now following what God showed me back then with food plan He gave me to heal my body of the problems/damage that dieting has done to me. I see that He wants to do a total healing in me. And it starts with putting Him first and then follow His leading.

God is soooo good. He never gives up on us.

Catch you tomorrow.

Ryanne
10-11-2009, 07:46 PM
Good Evening Ladies,

I don't have much on this one today except to say that the fact that if we resist the devil that he WILL flee from us as the Word of God says. I heard a minister preach on this on day. He said that the devil is a created being... created originally as an angel. He likened angels to a computer. Angels were programed to do (obey) whatever the Word of God says. They were NEVER given the ability to choose as we are. So when we speak the Word of God to them as Jesus did when He was tempted, they have NO CHOICE... THEY HAVE TO FLEE!!! That gave me more understanding to the Power that Jesus gave us through the Holy Spirit.

Jesus is our example. He never really talked to the demons although they often spoke and even knew who He was. He would immediately command them to be quiet and they obeyed Him. If we had the faith as to who we are in Christ Jesus, I know we could do the same thing. We have the same Holy Spirit working in us He had and we have the right given to us by Jesus to use His name to speak the Word of God and when we put all that together and "speak" that Word against them... the HAVE TO FLEE. They have NO CHOICE.

I think many times that they persist to see if we really believe what we say and/or if we really mean what we say. It is totally up to us.



I am glad that you put this. I was a computer tech for years and years. ( I guess I still am, but burned out with it...bad...lol) But when you put it like this, it makes it so clear to understand. I thank you for building my faith with that statement. Wow!
Trish, same with me, God has given me a plan for me and my family. I will just do what I am led to do by the Holy Spirit.

Bootsie
10-11-2009, 10:22 PM
I have learned that when we do good things it gives Satan a good hint to move on. reading God's word makes him move. All things can be used for good or bad even our words. God has given us wisdom to know the difference, like the computer itself can be used for good or it can be used for bad. I do think that we all could live without the computer telephone but we would not get to meet as many people or learn as much that could be bad or it could be good. I don't know . I know I would sure hate to live without running water, and electricity. As far as Satan tempting us if he tempted Jesus, you know for sure he is coming after us that is when we need to put on our armor of God to protect us. I do know one thing that when you seek God, he will show you his plans (as he is doing for us) for your life so that you can follow him and avoid falling into the temptation of sin that Satan sets for us. I want to add though the good news is, that I have learned in my past, is that any past problems, current struggles and these temporary setbacks we all been through, God does not give up on us.

Ryanne
10-11-2009, 10:50 PM
I want to add though the good news is, that I have learned in my past, is that any past problems, current struggles and these temporary setbacks we all been through, God does not give up on us.

Thank God for that!!!! :)

Kelli
10-12-2009, 01:48 AM
I can't believe it took me over ten years to finally figure out that I just needed to give it up.

I know I talk about giving it up in the study, and I would for a few weeks then I would pick it up again. In my post yesterday I told you I am done. Done dieting, done thinking about food, done thinking about being skinny, done!

So yesterday I just didn't feel like I wanted to go to the bother of making any lunch or dinner. I wasn't trying to diet, I just didn't want to bother with it. Then this morning I had a hunger pang, but it just seemed it was a bother. I got to teach the kids in Sunday School today (K-1st grade :)) and there was some time between services, so I decided to get a McSandwich. On the way, I was confused because it still seemed more like a bother.

So I asked God, "Do you want me to fast?" why don't I feel the need to eat?

He answered in His still small voice, and said "This is how it is when you don't have an emotional attachment to food!" He told me "It's not time to fast, it's time to eat, you had a hunger pang"! I thought 'wow'! duh, God had to instruct me how to eat normally again, I had forgotten! :dizzy:

I am not saying Satan is totally leaving me alone and doesn't tempt me, what I am saying is every time He tries I say the same thing...

(I never talk directly to Satan either Trish) I say, this is none of my business. (because now he doesn't tempt me with eating as much as he does with dieting, listing the food I ate...etc.) So I say Jesus, Thank you that my weapons are not carnal, but mighty in casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against what you have taught me.

Satan's favorite tactic on me now is to try to make me confused by saying I need to resist, because if I don't, I will eat everything. But every time I think about food and dieting I say, this is none of my business...

This is silly but I kind of feel like Neo in the movie, The Matrix, (the first one, I hated the other two) anyway when he dies (when I died to myself and gave it up totally) and then he suddenly realizes he'd been deceived all this time, and he finally understands the power he has available. He flexes his arms and the world around him expands and contracts. (I flex my faith muscles) Then the agents shoot Neo with bullets (fiery darts) and He looks down (I look up) and then he just quietly says...

No...

and the bullets (fiery darts) fall harmlessly to the floor.

I know why it took me so long to understand that I just need to surrender and by surrender, I mean don't even get involved with the process at all, (it's God's business not mine) and you ladies probably already got that. But I thank you Jesus so much for how long it took me. I couldn't have written the study!

I don't think I will be on the computer as much anymore, my family is feeling neglected and I need to get the study edited. I will be praying for you and I will stop by now and then, (Because your insights bless my socks off!!!) but you ladies certainly don't need me, God is showing you such awesome things!

However, before I do leave, I have noticed there are about 75 to 100 views of this thread a day, and I know, Trish, Bootsie and Rayann, would love you to join in. It's not like you can't jump in at anytime, the study's aren't really chronological, you can jump in anywhere.

I will come by often, just not everyday. It's just that, it's the first thing I want to do in the morning so I don't get my regular Bible study, like I used to, and then I stay up late posting and reading posts, so I don't get to bed early enough and I sleep in. :( I will still post the rest of the studies in the Bible Study thread. I will probably do the rest of them all at once, so I won't be tempted and get sucked back in.

Love you guys, thank you so much for your support! :hug:

Love, Kelli

Ryanne
10-12-2009, 02:40 AM
...but you have to do what you have to do. Just don't be a stranger! We love you so much and it would be nice to have your input. Whatever you do, Kelli, I know you are doing it for the glory of God.
Take Care and post when you can.
:hug:

Ryanne
10-12-2009, 02:44 AM
Week 2 Day 4
Love the Lord with all your heart
Day ___________________________ Date ___________________________

Matthew 12:30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment.

God is not as concerned about the shape of your body as He is the condition of your heart, apart from you being over weight is a manifestation of the condition of your heart and what you have been running to for comfort and satisfaction. We have to run to God for comfort and support, not food.

Read II Corinthians 1: 3, 4 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

II Corinthians 5:9 (NIV) Says, So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it.

What is your goal? Be honest with yourself. What is your true purpose for losing weight? __________________________________________________ _________________________
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Is it to be thin earn the respect of others do you think “they” will love you more? Most people if they are honest with themselves admit their motivation for dieting is to look better, and no wonder! We are under so much pressure to be perfect. We are assaulted twenty-four hours a day from TV and magazines.

The Bible says seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.

Read Matthew 7:7,8 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Make it a priority to heal spiritually first and then the physical will follow.

An apple tree doesn’t strain and groan to get the fruit out. It automatically bears fruit if fed, watered and if it gets plenty of sunshine. To grow in the Lord you have to spend time reading the word getting to know Jesus by going to church and listening to Christian music, filling your life and mind with the one who loves you. It isn’t an option; it’s a requirement.

John 15:5-8 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

And

James 4: 7-10 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.

Reject dieting for the purpose of weight loss only. Unlike all the other diets we have been on the bottom line of this diet is moderation. You don’t need to worry about what you eat or how you eat it. You can use that time to fall in love with Jesus. How do you think you fall in love with Him? How do you draw near to God? ____________________________________
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You draw near to God by getting to know Him! If you are married or engaged, you know that when you first fell in love, you stayed up all night just talking. You enjoyed just being together. If you told that person “I’m going to spend thirty minutes a day with you and memorize one thing about you a week.” Would they have been happy with that? I don’t think so, you get to know someone by spending time with them, talking to them, thinking about them, listening to them. You steal every moment you can just to look in their eyes and hear their voice.

Use your own Bible and write down the following passages:

Philippians 2:3, __________________________________________________ ___________
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Psalm 37: 4, __________________________________________________ ______________
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Use your own Bible and fill in the blanks Romans 8:5-9 _____________________________
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____________________________________________ For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
What do all these passages have in common? ____________________________________
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They are all in regards to God being first in your life. Seeking Him and getting to know Him. Acknowledging Him as your Master, accepting the fact that He knows what is best for you, and then He will give you the desires of your heart. He knows what you truly desire better than you do.
When you get to know Jesus through reading His word and spending time with Him, the Holy Spirit will breathe new life and truth into your entire being. You will discover amazing strength when you’re empowered by the Holy Spirit. Stop trying to change your eating habits in your own strength. We have read it, we are the branches and He is the vine, our life source, do you believe it? I think a lot of us who are overweight, think it’s our lot in life, our cross to bear. It’s not about that at all. We all have to fight the tendency to sin and gluttony is a sin. Some people have the tendency toward pornography, or homosexuality. You wouldn’t think it’s Okay for them to ruin their lives with that. The same goes for your sin. It’s not about you it’s about your ministry and what God has planned for you life.

Read Romans 8:1-17


In light of today’s study, what was the scripture or statement in today’s lesson that most spoke to your heart? __________________________________________________ ________
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What steps of faith does God want you to take towards Him today? ____________________
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Rephrase the scripture or statement into an expression of faith_________________________
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I Corinthians 10: 31 Therefore, ****________ you **_________ or ________, or ________ you do, do ________ to the _________ of _____.

Ryanne
10-12-2009, 09:33 AM
Matthew 12:30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment.

God is not as concerned about the shape of your body as He is the condition of your heart, apart from you being over weight is a manifestation of the condition of your heart and what you have been running to for comfort and satisfaction. We have to run to God for comfort and support, not food.

Read II Corinthians 1: 3, 4 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.


The Bible says seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.

Make it a priority to heal spiritually first and then the physical will follow.

To grow in the Lord you have to spend time reading the word getting to know Jesus by going to church and listening to Christian music, filling your life and mind with the one who loves you. It isn’t an option; it’s a requirement.

John 15:5-8 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

And

James 4: 7-10 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.

For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

This goes along the lines of what God has been teaching me lately about being led by the Spirit and not by the flesh. God is sooo good. I am glad to know ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOD! I don't have to worry about what I think I can or cannot do, it doesn't matter. What matters is GOD CAN AND WILL!:carrot:

pattygirl63
10-12-2009, 11:04 AM
The Bible says seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.

Well, I just spent 20 minutes writing my on this and lost it. I'll try to do it again more quickly.

I love this scripture in the Amplified Bible. "His righteousness (His way of doing and being right)".

This tells me that as I seek to really know Him and have a close relationship with Him then I will also learn what Jesus will and will not do. What pleases Him and what does not.

Yesterday, I started out doing a different low carb plan than the one that I felt the Lord wanted me to do the day before. It seemed to make more sense to me, but I was wrong. I was spending most of the time trying to eat certain foods at certain times and I didn't have the right foods to do it etc. I found myself getting frustrated. And then I was supposed to eat before going to bed which I don't like doing. I suddenly realized that this was to frustrating and confusing for me . It was not flowing well with my life. NO PEACE. Why? Because this was not God's Way for me to follow.

I woke up this morning and back on the Plan God has for me and all is going easier. Even had 2 meals planned in my head before I got out of bed. I've come to believe that what God wants to teach me through this weight loss Diet Bible Study is that when we do what God tells us to do (obedient) things go better for us. I know that may not always be true, because I was watch a Joyce Meyer dvd last night and she made a statement that I have found to be true... she said the :devil: attacks us when we are doing thing right and :devil: attacks when we are doing things wrong. But she went on to say that she now when something happens that she asks God, "Have I opened a door?" She wants to know so that she can correct it. Thank God, I am back in the flow of what God has shown me to do and I am at peace and enjoying my breakfast that He showed me to eat this morning.

Kellie We will miss you, but I understand. Nothing should take away from our Devotional Bible Studies and family. Check in when you can.

Ryanne and Bootsie:wave: Have a great day.

pattygirl63
10-12-2009, 11:09 AM
This goes along the lines of what God has been teaching me lately about being led by the Spirit and not by the flesh. God is sooo good. I am glad to know ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOD! I don't have to worry about what I think I can or cannot do, it doesn't matter. What matters is GOD CAN AND WILL!:carrot:

Ryanne Something Joyce said on the dvd along the lines of what you wrote. She used Philippkians 4:13 she said something like this "I can do all things because God lives in me". Yes we do have the strength to do this because we have the greater one living inside of us.

Blessings,

Ryanne
10-12-2009, 11:57 AM
Ryanne Something Joyce said on the dvd along the lines of what you wrote. She used Philippkians 4:13 she said something like this "I can do all things because God lives in me". Yes we do have the strength to do this because we have the greater one living inside of us.

Blessings,

Amen to that! Trish, I also LOVE my Amplified Bible. It goes into such depth and detail. I don't know if you already do this or not, but one thing that I have done because of Joyce's teaching, and then stopped doing, and am doing again...(tee hee :dizzy:Did you get all that?? LOL) is to "Call those things that be not as though they were." Which is writing down and confessing God's Word over our lives. It really is a good idea to do this one or two or more times per day.

Bootsie, I hope you are doing well. Can't wait to hear from you...and Kelli, I pray things are going well with you.
I'll be on later... Gonna go spend some time doing my confession list and reading a little. Have a great day!:book2:

pattygirl63
10-12-2009, 02:45 PM
[COLOR="Magenta"]Amen to that! Trish, I also LOVE my Amplified Bible. It goes into such depth and detail. I don't know if you already do this or not, but one thing that I have done because of Joyce's teaching, and then stopped doing, and am doing again...(tee hee :dizzy:Did you get all that?? LOL) is to "Call those things that be not as though they were." Which is writing down and confessing God's Word over our lives. It really is a good idea to do this one or two or more times per day.COLOR]

I used to do that everyday and I need to get back to it again as well. I have pages and pages and takes me a long time to confess them. I used to spread them out through the week. Thanks for reminding me.

Ryanne
10-12-2009, 05:10 PM
I used to do that everyday and I need to get back to it again as well. I have pages and pages and takes me a long time to confess them. I used to spread them out through the week. Thanks for reminding me.

You sound a lot like me...LOL. You're welcome, I guess God wanted you reminded.
Have a good day, I'll check in later. :hug:

Ryanne
10-12-2009, 08:25 PM
I am going to stop posting Kelli's Diet Bible Study on here, if you would like to read it in her Bible Study section or on her website, that is fine and you can still discuss it here if you would like to, that way you can go at your own pace. I am more than happy to discuss her study!
This is a place we can come discuss anything that pertains to us.
I love you all!
:grouphug:

pattygirl63
10-12-2009, 10:15 PM
I am going to stop posting Kelli's Diet Bible Study on here, if you would like to read it in her Bible Study section or on her website, that is fine and you can still discuss it here if you would like to, that way you can go at your own pace. I am more than happy to discuss her study!
This is a place we can come discuss anything that pertains to us.
I love you all!
:grouphug:

Thanks Ryanne. That will work for me. I've had my carbs for today except for 1. Thought came to me that I wanted something with more carbs. Then it hit me and I said out loud, "NO, I submit myself to God and I resist that thought in the name of Jesus." Praise God it works. The desire never went any further.

Bootsie
10-12-2009, 10:52 PM
Hi Ryanne and Trish, that is alright with me too. I am really busy too but I need you girls! Your my support! So I guess your stuck with this old lady. Kelly I sure am sorry to see you go but hope you pop in ever once in a while.
You know those cookies I forgot to take to the firehall , well I ate some and I feel like I have a bad hangover today.
Do y'all write everything down you eat? It helps me when I do but I always loose it. Do y'all plan your meals for the week? I am going to try for one day but even if I do , I seem to forget I have planned. Ever done that?
I have fitday and I got everything down except a small piece of velveeta fudge, yep that is what I said Velveeta fudge. A lady made some and sent it to me so I tried a small piece and shared, then hubie stuck it in his desk draw and hid it so he could eat it! I did real good and the fudge was small but really good.
You know tomorrow is a new day girls, a new start, let us get determined!
What kind of exercise are we planning. I watched Dr. OZ. today and I am planning 10,000 steps . Today I weed eated.

Ryanne
10-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Then it hit me and I said out loud, "NO, I submit myself to God and I resist that thought in the name of Jesus." Praise God it works. The desire never went any further.
Good Job! You did great! God is sooo good, and thank Him for the Name of JESUS! :carrot:

Ryanne
10-12-2009, 11:29 PM
Hi Ryanne and Trish, that is alright with me too. I am really busy too but I need you girls! Your my support! So I guess your stuck with this old lady. Kelly I sure am sorry to see you go but hope you pop in ever once in a while.
You know those cookies I forgot to take to the firehall , well I ate some and I feel like I have a bad hangover today.
Do y'all write everything down you eat? It helps me when I do but I always loose it. Do y'all plan your meals for the week? I am going to try for one day but even if I do , I seem to forget I have planned. Ever done that?
I have fitday and I got everything down except a small piece of velveeta fudge, yep that is what I said Velveeta fudge. A lady made some and sent it to me so I tried a small piece and shared, then hubie stuck it in his desk draw and hid it so he could eat it! I did real good and the fudge was small but really good.
You know tomorrow is a new day girls, a new start, let us get determined!
What kind of exercise are we planning. I watched Dr. OZ. today and I am planning 10,000 steps . Today I weed eated.

Bootsie, we sure don't feel stuck with you, we feel BLESSED by you! Sorry you have a hangover. I used to write down everything I ate, then God showed me to plan ahead and stick to my plan. So I write out a weekly menu and grocery shop accordingly and tape the menu to the side of the fridge by the stove so I always know what I am making and eating. It makes it soooo much easier and is less time consuming and helps to keep my mind off of food, since I already know what I am going to eat, when cravings come, I just say, no I'm not eating that, because I don't eat between meals. Also it makes my grocery shopping easier, I don't buy what's not on the list. It disciplines me to not bring stuff I don't want to eat into the house.
I usually do walking for exercise, plus cleaning the house...but I am trying to stay away from too much exercise and to stay well balanced. I have gotten caught up in over exercising before, and I don't want to do that again!!! NO WAY!
I know that if we are well balanced in every area it keeps the doors closed so Satan doesn't have a way in.
I so appreciate you guys and your support. Bootsie, I appreciate your support and glad you need us, too.
Have a good night all. Getting little one into bed, so I can rewrite my Scriptures for confessions. I ran out of space in one notebook so am reorganizing myself.
:comp:

pattygirl63
10-13-2009, 12:11 AM
Bootsie I agree with Ryanne. You are a real blessing and I miss you when you aren't here. Right now I'm doing Atkins 2 week Induction. This was my 3rd day. So yes I write down what I eat as I am counting my carbs to keep at 20 or less grams a day. I will probably even count it when I get past the 2 weeks. I'm not sure if I will add more carbs then or stay on Induction for awhile. It will be as the Lord leads. I read where one person keeps her carb count at 30 so may work up to that. Of course, I will do whatever the Lord tells me to do. However, I will have to continue writing and counting at least until I get used to what I'm doing. As for exercise, I walk or do a tape or cd or do housework. I just kind of make it varied and whatever strikes me at the time. I do like to do Sansone's Walk Away the Pounds 1 mile which is 20 minute tape. I like the 2 mile better but it takes 30 minutes and it is strange that 10 more minutes seems sooooo long. Need a new attitude about that. When I do those tapes, my back and hip hurts but it finally works out and keeps them from hurting. Which makes me wonder why I don't do it. Don't beat yourself up about the cookies. One slip doesn't mean failure and won't be a disaster if you don't let it be. As you said, tomorrow is a new day. Start the next meal or snack OP and you will be fine.:)

Ryanne I started redoing my confessions back in the summer and never finished. I need to do that since I have a lot of repeats. I'll have to see if I can find the time to finish. I just have so much going on right now.

Well, girls I'm getting tired so I will catch y'all tomorrow.

Good nite.

Ryanne
10-13-2009, 09:27 AM
I pray that everyone has a blessed day! Thank God for His goodness! I lost the weight I had put on from "drinking snacks". I don't even look at it as a set back, but as a learning experience. I am glad for all the lessons God is teaching me through this.
I want to encourage you today to enjoy your day! Don't let the devil get you down. Just let it go and move on.
Jesus came so that we can HAVE and ENJOY life. Make a decision early that you will enjoy your day, and if something crops up to try to steal your joy, just remind yourself that you already decided to enjoy your day.
I once had an epiphany about this, and the Lord taught me to "DECIDE EARLY"... so even with my eating, I "decide early" what I want to do. That is why I make the menu out, because in the Spirit I have decided, and then I write it down, then if my flesh wants something, I tell myself, "NOPE, I already decided this is what I am going to eat and when I am going to eat it." It makes it easier to keep my flesh under control.
I love you guys! Remember "The JOY of the LORD is our strength"!

Trish, if you have a lot of repeats, don't worry about it, maybe those areas need more attention. The Word of God is like a medicine. You put it where you need it.
So say you are having a problem with not being able to forgive someone for something...well, then it doesn't do a lot of good to speak confessions of prosperity over that issue, you should confess things about "I forgive and bless" that person.
I have a lot of repeats, too, even though I am reorganizing, I still have a lot of repeats, lol...even though I try not to, but the thing is, I figure that maybe I need to speak that more over my life anyway.
Then I have a huge list, which is what it sounds like you do, too, that I speak over myself. (I have a lot of areas that need God's work!! :)).
Bootsie, we are still getting so much rain, was wondering if you are, too?

pattygirl63
10-13-2009, 11:21 AM
Good Morning Girls,

This will be a quick one as I have a busy day and up early considering I went to bed at almost 4 am, but late for all I need to do. Washing clothes, running dishwasher which I only do when I have full loads of both. With just 2 of us that doesn't roll around at convinient times every time. We are going to both Walmart and Home Depot. So will be a busy day.

Liked what you said about planning to enjoy your day first thing in the morning. Tony told me last night that we would eat at Steak & Shake. So I went online before I went to bed and checked their menu and already have planned what I'm going to eat. Grilled chicken salad goes perfect with my low carb way of eat. I'm not calling it a diet, because I feel it is just the way I eat now. The word "diet" indicates something you do just to lose weight and then go back to your old way of eating. As Christians we are not to go back to our "old" way of doing things. We are "new" creatures in Christ Jesus which means "new ways" of doing everything.

I had some other comments, but need to get to my devotional time and confessions. Ryanne you have a great influence on me. Thanks again. Tony and I just watched a 4 hour dvd of Joyce Meyer's of Battlefield of the Mind. So I'm going to get my book out and read it again. I just keep adding more to read. But that is okay as I believe that is the leading of the Lord.

Have a great blessed day. I'll try to get back here later.

Ryanne
10-13-2009, 02:29 PM
That is a really good one. I told my husband I want to build my collection back up. My youngest daughter said she has one of my Joyce Meyer books, and she will bring it next week after her visit with her dad, and my son has a couple of my books, if he is using them, I will let it be and just buy them again. I know our library has a lot of Joyce Meyer books, so I could check some out for free. So that may be an option for me, too...since we are watching our pennies.
I agree, I am not "dieting" or on a "diet" either. It is the way I eat and will continue to eat, for I do believe it is God's plan for me.
I am still writing my confessions, I am saying them as I am writing them so I get it established on earth as well as the tablet of my heart.
I like what Joyce says about that, our tongue is the pen and our heart is our tablet.
Reminds me to not speak negatively and only positively.
Well, sounds like you do have a busy day. It's good you looked ahead to see what was on the menu. It does make it so much easier to decide in the Spirit ahead of time, and just stick to it, no matter what the flesh wants. Following my flesh never got me anything but death.
I'm so glad that we have the Gift of the Holy Spirit living on the inside of us. We are sooooo blessed! This is an exciting time in history! Alot of people say that they wish that they could have been around when Jesus walked on this earth, but they don't realize what an exciting time THIS IS with the Holy Spirit LIVING AND WORKING through all of us believers! Amazing Stuff!
In Him,
Your Sister,

Bootsie
10-13-2009, 04:07 PM
It is strange how God is leading us in all directions in how we are changing our way of eating. Me I need control, yes Jesus gives me control but I need to support for control. In the country, even though you have friends all they do is talk about getting healthy and never take the first step. So I am following with five plans, I am reading Joyce Meyers book, gosh I wish she would join us! Reading the Bible. I am following Dr. Phils plans and posting in his site in the 25 pound to loose section even though I really need to loose 50 pounds. I just don't want to make my goal to large, really should of went into the 10 pound range.

I should of said 6 things because I am also studying The diet Alternative, by Diane Hampton, is which what we are doing. She says in her book page 22: A drunk can be obnoxious disruptive, or abusive. A glutton seldom is. He is a person with a gentle disposition and a tender heart. But he is hurting inside just as much, he is hurting his body just as much, and he needs miistering just as much. A drunk does not hesitate to ask for counseling, help, or prayer: but where does a glutton go? Most people look the other way or tell their children not to say anything about how fat so and so is. We even bring them candy or fix their favorite foods.

She hit home there! I find that so true in my life. My husband needs to loose weight to or I am afraid when he gets in the hay fields he is going to kill over. I love him and would love to keep him around for a while. I told him this last night and hopes he shares all the cookies and candy coming to him these next 3 months , for he needs to loose at least 125 pounds. Please pray for him.

juliastl27
10-13-2009, 04:25 PM
Hello

This is my first post on this thread as I just got saved recently. I am excited to be here and get to know all of you. My name is Julia and I am 28.

Ryanne
10-13-2009, 06:57 PM
She says in her book page 22: A drunk can be obnoxious disruptive, or abusive. A glutton seldom is. He is a person with a gentle disposition and a tender heart. But he is hurting inside just as much, he is hurting his body just as much, and he needs miistering just as much. A drunk does not hesitate to ask for counseling, help, or prayer: but where does a glutton go? Most people look the other way or tell their children not to say anything about how fat so and so is. We even bring them candy or fix their favorite foods.

She hit home there! I find that so true in my life. My husband needs to lose weight to or I am afraid when he gets in the hay fields he is going to kill over. I love him and would love to keep him around for a while. I told him this last night and hopes he shares all the cookies and candy coming to him these next 3 months , for he needs to loose at least 125 pounds. Please pray for him.

It is so true that people carry their hurt all over their body when they use food for comfort, boredom, etc. It is sad. I had to actually repent the other day because I saw a thin woman who was kind of stuck up, and I thought, "wow she is stuck up!" and then I thought: "fat people are nice they are not stuck up". But you know what, it's not true, there are stuck up fat people just as there are nice thin people. I was stereotyping and that is so wrong. I don't want people to think of me like that when I am thin.
Anyway, I did repent and changed my thinking. I tend to "coddle" people who are over weight and my heart goes out to them. I know that it is hard to hurt inside and laugh on the outside.
I will pray for him and you, too, Bootsie. I pray over all of us on this thread.
:hug:

Bootsie
10-13-2009, 06:58 PM
Hi Julia! Welcome! I hope you like it here , there is also the encouragers post and prayer post that might interest you too. You can see that Ryanne , Trish and I are all on the road to a more healthy life , with God leading us. So happy you have decided to join us!

Ryanne
10-13-2009, 06:59 PM
Hello

This is my first post on this thread as I just got saved recently. I am excited to be here and get to know all of you. My name is Julia and I am 28.


Julia, it is so nice to have you here! I can't wait to get to know you. Post as often as you would like and have fun!

pattygirl63
10-13-2009, 08:51 PM
Hello This is my first post on this thread as I just got saved recently. I am excited to be here and get to know all of you. My name is Julia and I am 28.

:welcome2: Julia to the group and to recently becoming a new member of the family of God. We are so glad you chose to join us. We look forward to getting to know you. Just jump in and share any time.

Ryanne Thanks again for reminding me of the book Battlefield of the Mind. I went and got the book off the shelf immediately. I am going to read it while the dvd is fresh on my mind.

I was just reading the Introduction to the bookand she reminds us to never give up because we are constantly changing. I realize that we may not always see that we are changing, but if we are trusting God and doing what we know we are to do then there is change going on as we are growing in the Lord.

I want to share a few things Joyce said on the dvd. She said that 2 things happened the day before Joyce got to that particular meeting that had upset her and she didn't handle them as she did and had to repent. The devil was beating her up and she felt so guilty. Then the Lord said to her "What about the 150 things you've done right today?" I think we all have a habit of beating ourselves up when we don't do things "perfectly". I've heard that a lot of us overweight people are perfectionists and that is why we beat ourselves up so when we have a slip. Another thing I like that Joyce said was that a fall does not make us a failure. We are only a failure if we give up and quit. I like that. I know I don't need anyone else to beat me up when I mess up, because I do a good job on myself.

Bootsie I am so glad that you have the plan that will work for you. It is so wonderful how the Lord has lead each of us to the plan that He has for us. I feel like that is a good sign that we will succeed because this time we have found God's Way for us to eat. God is so Good.

God blessed me today with a wonderful experience when I went to Steak & Shake to eat. I had the plan ahead of time what I was going to eat. When the waitress came to take our order, I just gave my order. Ordered the slad with no croutons, ranch dressing and water. I saw the other foods on the menu, but I had my mindset for the salad and nothing else tempted me. I saw something that I would have liked, but I already had my plan in my mind and had no desire to change it. I figure the other item I saw I can have another time. Thanks Ryanne for the suggestion of making up our minds about things ahead of time.

Well,I better close off and go spend time with my dear hubby. I stayed up so late with him last night, but I can't do that to night. I have to be at church for BSF at in the morning by 9:10.

Have a good evening. Till tomorrow.

Ryanne loved the sign off because we are sisters.

pattygirl63
10-14-2009, 09:32 AM
Good Morning Girls

Just wanted to start my morning telling you hello and to have a marvelously blessed day.

I started reading The Battlefield of the Mind. Only got to read a small section, but maybe this is how I should read it this time. The scripture is Ephesians 6:12 " For we are not wrestling with fles and blood [contending only wih physical opponents], but against despotism, against powers, against [the master spirits who are] the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spirit forces of wickedness in heavenly (supernatural) sphere.

She brings out the fact that we are at war with evil and that these evil spirits have had time to really know us. So he begins to tell us things about ourselves and others that are not true. He is patient and he takes time plan his strategy against us. We must remember that he is a liar and the father of lies.

This reminds me that we must remember the One who is Greater lives inside of us and we that gives us the ability and power of the Holy Spirit living in us to get through this day successfully. We are truly blessed because we are daughters of the Most High God Who loves us so much that He walks through this weight loss with us. He said He would never leave us so we know that this is true.

Love you girls. I am truly blessed to have you in my life.

BTW Ryanne I live in SC, but I'm a TX born girl. Can't take the TX out of me.

Later girls.

Ryanne
10-14-2009, 12:06 PM
NIV© "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."
And...
As He is, so are we in this world. (1 John 4:17)

Yes, we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but one thing we do need to remember is that "WE ALREADY HAVE THE VICTORY"! All Jesus has done is done, it is already established in Heaven, and by the words of our mouth, (Prayer and Confession) we establish it in our hearts and on THIS EARTH!

Here is something I stumbled across this morning, I have never been to this website before, but I will paste it here and provide a link to the website, there are some other things there that I may be interested in, but I have not checked the other content of the site, to see how reliable it is, but this particular thing bears witness with me and I thought it might bless you, too.

As He Is, So Are We in This World

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion … over all the earth.” (Genesis 1:26)

As He is, so are we in this world. (1 John 4:17)

I was just thinking about how similar these two verses are.

In the beginning, God created man in His own image. He formed him out of the dust of the ground, then He puffed the breath life, His own breath, into man’s mouth, and man became a living creature. No other creature in heaven and earth is like man. Nowhere are angels ever said to be created in the image of God. No other creature has received the breath of life from God’s own lips. Only man is created in the image of God.

To be created in the image of God means this: As He is, so are we in this world. God created man to have dominion over the earth and everything in it. In other words, man was made to represent God to the world—created in the divine image, animated by the divine breath, the Holy Spirit of God, and endowed with divine authority to rule and reign on earth. Whenever any creature looked upon man, they would see the image of God.

As we know, Adam and Eve lost that authority when they rebelled against God and submitted themselves to satan. But that is why Jesus came, to destroy the works of the devil (1 John 3:8) and restore us to God and the plan He has always had for us. Jesus, the Second Person of the Godhead, and fully divine, became fully human and walked among us. He so thoroughly identified with us that He carried our sins to the cross—became sin for us, the Bible says (2 Corinthians 5:21)—where He died in our place. By His body given for us and His blood shed for us, He broke the power of the enemy over us. Three days later, He arose from the dead. Then, before He ascended to His throne in heaven, He gave us His authority and power:

All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. (Matthew 28:18-20)

But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth. (Acts 1:8)

This authority and power has been given to all those who have received the Lord Jesus Christ and been baptized in His name. To be a disciple of Jesus means to learn how to exercise this authority and power just as He would, though most churches have forgotten how to do this.

Nonetheless, we are fully authorized by the Lord Jesus Christ and empowered by the Holy Spirit to speak and act in His name, to exercise the kind of dominion He exercised, and be the agents of His kingdom on earth. That is why the apostle John could write:

Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.

Faithpoint: This dominion is about doing the Father’s will and manifesting the Father’s love in the world. That is what Jesus came to do, and what He authorized and empowered us to do. If we want to know what that looks like, all we have to do is look at Jesus, because as He is, so are we in this world. ShareThis
by Jeff Doles

Here is the link: http://www.thefaithlog.com/2006/05/as-he-is-so-are-we-in-this-world.html

I pray that this will fall on good soil and ask God to give us all revelational knowledge of this, in Jesus' Name I pray, Amen.

I love you all and will be back later. :bubbles:

Ryanne
10-14-2009, 09:06 PM
I wanted to share that I was born in Iowa and raised in Wisconsin, and I ventured out on my own after High School to Oklahoma, by myself. I have stayed here and raised my family here and made Oklahoma my home. I love it!
I have a 22 year old son, he is married and has a baby girl who is a year old. He just bought his first house 2 weeks ago.
I have a 20 year old daughter who is expecting her first child in January.
I have a 16 year old girl and a 4 year old boy still at home.
I have the best husband in the world, and yes, I own bragging rights!!! LOL...I have been married twice before, the first husband was murdered, and the second husband was abusive...and now I have my best friend to share my life with. He is wonderful.
God is so good.
I worked for several years as a computer tech for almost every major manufacturer, and I also was a tech for printers, copiers, fax machines, digital cameras, ipods, cell phones, mp3 players, you name it, I have probably fixed it... I am severely burned out with it, and quit my job in March to stay home with the children. My husband is in technical support as well, but would some day like to work in his field which is coding for computer programs.
I have no family close except for my children and my husband...the rest of my family is in Wisconsin and some are scattered around the country. I have 9 brothers and sisters, a step sister and a half sister.
I got saved when I was 20 years old. (a lil secret...I am 43 yrs. old now...although I don't really tell anyone, most people guess me in my late teens to early twenties...and I just smile. :D) I hope it stays that way for a very long time, In Jesus' Name, Amen!
So, anyways, I thought you guys would like to know some things about me.
Of course, we all have Joyce Meyer in common, but I also like Jesse Duplantis. He is so funny!
Anyway, I hope to get to know all of you better. :cofdate:

Bootsie
10-15-2009, 12:09 AM
Hello everyone, it has been quite a night as I explained in Christian Encouragers Oct.
I fixed up my dog Lee pen today and put him in a cleaner pen and he hated it. I will never understand that dog. The pen I put him in was 20 times bigger dryer, so much more room to run but he did not like it . He just cried that whine, he wanted to go back to his pen in the mud. I thought well that has just become his comfort zone and how I am so much like that too, especially tonight. I like to feel safe and I don't like changes either.
My border collie she is differnet, I fixed her a place to get out and run and she just had so much fun today! If she could talk she would say about Lee, That silly old boy is just plum silly! I have another male dog the same way, he don't like changes either done the same thing for him and he climbed over and went back to his old dog house. Oh well tried to make it better.
Worked in the garden and all my beans are blooming! As I was pulling weeds Harry my cat who follows me everywhere decided he would play a trick on me. He saw me going through all the beans and he hid under the beans ready to grab my hand, that little rascal!
I started planning on the cat house for the cats while I am gone next month. Dug up around and found some wood panels and now I need to find some wood to frame it with. Should not take me to long to fix it . Plus I need to fix the chickens doors where something tried to get in, before i got my monitor. Have to cut the grass around the store tomorrow. Well best go .

Ryanne
10-15-2009, 11:17 AM
I wanted to greet you all with a warm Hello this morning. I am babysitting my granddaughter this morning...she is such a blessing! It was nice to see my son's smiling face so early in the morning. Then my oldest daughter called to chat this morning, and is wanting to go to Church with me Sunday and hang out with me for the day. That will be fun.
Today I am still meditating on following the Spirit and also the fact that Jesus told us to CHEER UP because HE has overcome the world and deprived it of power to harm us.
Well, I'll stop in later, you all have a most wonderful day!:D

pattygirl63
10-15-2009, 06:08 PM
I am late here today because I slept in this morning which throws everything off. Thursday isn't really the day to do this as I have a lot of reading to do on Thursday mornings with the notes from BSF and my regular devotional time. Anyway, I did it.

While I was reading my Bible this morning during devotional time there was something that really jumped out at me. Jesus had gone to the garden of Gethsemanee (sp) to pray. The disciples feel asleep. Then the last time in Matthew 14:38b Jesus says to them " The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak".

When we were born again, we became a new creation in Christ Jesus. Our spirit was born of the Holy Spirit. But our personality and attitudes did not change. The Holy Spirit came to live in us to do that change in us. We have to be submissive to God's work in us that He is doing through the Holy Spirit.

What I saw is that from the time we were born in the flesh that our flesh was taught to be in control. We cry our Mother fed us etc. We learned to get what we needed according to the flesh needs. Now as new creations in Christ, our spirit being wants to be in control and is very much willing to be. We have to now feed our spirit being and it starts with feeding our minds the Word of God. The more our mind begins to think on the Word of God whether through reading the Bible, studying the Bible or hearing good teaching on the Word and meditating on that word (like when we make our confessions of the Word in prayer) we are changing our thoughts and causing our spirit being to grow and become stronger so that it can control our flesh.

I had a day of really being hungry yesterday, but this morning my weight was down. It is so amazing to me how this all works. I do Low Carb/Intuitive Eating combination. Some days I eat more than others. They stress to eat only when hungry. I have found that when I eat very little because I want to cut back, I show a gain the next day. When I eat when hungry and get satisfied like I did yesterday, I show a loss the next day. I wonder if any of you have had the same experience.

Ryanne Thanks for sharing the word like you did and then sharing your story of your life. I too love Jesse Duplantis. I also like Kenneth Copeland and Creflo Dollar. God has really turned your life into something beautiful. Praise God! He is soooo good.

Bootsie I love your stories of things that happen with your animals. They are so cute. My deceased husband and our children and I had a little farm when we lived in Gatesville, TX. I absolutely loved living in the country. We raised chickens, turkey and ducks. Your bring back so many cute things that happened. I am a city girl who moved to the country to make my husband happy. It was one of the best experience of my life. The first year we ordered 200 baby chicks and they came early before we got the chicken area ready. I had 200 hundred baby chicks on the floor in my living room. Another time we had 200 on the floor of our bathroom so they could stay warm. We had a duck that decided she was going to sit, but she had no eggs. But you didn't go near her as she would hiss at you when you walked by her. Lots of happy memories from that time of my life.
I know from experience how you feel about your DH, so yes I will be praying for him.

You girls have a great evening.

Ryanne
10-15-2009, 11:10 PM
And it was right on time. I am almost done reading it, and will read it again. I think I will read it every couple of weeks for a while, then at the beginning of every month...just to stay up on all of it.
I am enjoying it so much. It is confirmation to me that the way I am eating is right for me.
Trish, as far as what I have learned about following the Holy Spirit, as that when we do, we will NOT fulfill the lust of the flesh. So that is good news! I think that you said it well when you said to keep reading, confessing and praying.
Bootsie, your story made me smile. I miss my dog, but I sure don't want another one as long as we are in an apt. Maybe when we get a house, we can have one...that way it will have a yard to run in.
Well, I'm off to finish reading that book. You all have a wonderful night.;)

Ryanne
10-16-2009, 09:15 AM
That book was total confirmation for me! I read it all yesterday, and am planning on reading it again today, God Willing!
I am ONE HAPPY GIRL!
I hope this day finds you all well and happy, too!
I want to encourage you to encourage yourselves in the Lord! Remember, the JOY OF THE LORD IS YOUR STRENGTH!
We are harder on ourselves than God is with us, and HE loves us soooo much and He will help us with anything and everything we need help with. Just ask Him and then receive His help and thank HIM!
He is for you. Who can be against you? Jesus said "Cheer up! In the world you will have trials and tribulation, but I have overcome the world and deprived it of power to harm you!" (The Amplified Bible states the latter, "I have deprived it of power to HARM YOU".
John 16:33 "NIV© "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

So CHEER UP!
Did you know LAUGHTER is like a MEDICINE? It does your heart and body good.
:D:carrot:

Trish: I also like them, too.



JUST FOR A LITTLE LAUGH: My sister sent me an email about the funny things KIDS say in Church. I think you might get a chuckle out of it.

3-year-old Reese :
'Our Father, Who does art in heaven,
Harold is His name.
Amen.'
....
A little boy was overheard praying:
'Lord, if you can't make me a better boy, don't worry about it.
I'm having a real good time like I am.'
...
After the christening of his baby brother in church,
Jason sobbed all the way home in the back seat of the car.
His father asked him three times what was wrong.
Finally, the boy replied,
'That preacher said he wanted us brought up in a Christian home,
and I wanted to stay with you guys.'
...
One particular four-year-old prayed,
'And forgive us our trash baskets
as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets.'
...
A Sunday school teacher asked her children as they
were on the way to church service,
'And why is it necessary to be quiet in church?'
One bright little girl replied,
'Because people are sleeping.'
...
A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin 5, and Ryan 3
The boys began to argue over who would get the first pancake.
Their mother saw the opportunity for a moral lesson.
'If Jesus were sitting here, He would say,
'Let my brother have the first pancake, I can wait.'
Kevin turned to his younger brother and said,
' Ryan , you be Jesus !'
...
A father was at the beach with his children
when the four-year-old son ran up to him,
grabbed his hand, and led him to the shore
where a seagull lay dead in the sand..
'Daddy, what happened to him?' the son asked.
'He died and went to Heaven,' the Dad replied.
The boy thought a moment and then said,
'Did God throw him back down?'
...
Hope this blesses you, it's cute.

And one thing about my youngest son, he is 4 yrs. old. One day I took him walking with me and my husband. He kept complaining that his "feet were tired"...but yet he was running and jumping...then complaining again. I got tired of it, so I thought he would stop saying it if I told him something he wouldn't like, So I told him, "well, if your feet are tired, then I guess you need a nap, maybe daddy should take you home so you can have a nap." He looked at me, and said, "Oh, Mama, MY FEET are tired MY FACE isn't tired, I don't need a nap!" LOL :)

pattygirl63
10-16-2009, 08:01 PM
And it was right on time. I am almost done reading it, and will read it again. I think I will read it every couple of weeks for a while, then at the beginning of every month...just to stay up on all of it.
I am enjoying it so much. It is confirmation to me that the way I am eating is right

Ryanne I have been in my book all afternoon and I had forgotten all those things. I actually used to do those things that Joyce said to do and I was losing weight. I even saw some things that I marked but don't really remember them at all. Why didn't get some of those things. Like when you exercise regularly that it can keep your metabolism working for at least a couple of days. That gives me a whole new attitude about exercise and also tells me why I did so well back then with my weight loss. I exercised 20 minutes 3 days a week which she says is enough to keep our metabolism revved up. I read somewhere that was not enough and I can't do more because of my back so I just gave up and quit. Obviously they were wrong, because Joyce wouldn't lie to us. I am reading in the chapter about Balance now. I think I am going to get more balanced food and balance in my life. I can do that and still stay low carb, just have to choose quality carbs.

I loved the jokes Ryanne. Thanks for sharing them.

Bootsie Hope things are going well for you.

Y'all have a great evening.

Ryanne
10-16-2009, 08:55 PM
Ryanne I have been in my book all afternoon and I had forgotten all those things. I actually used to do those things that Joyce said to do and I was losing weight. I even saw some things that I marked but don't really remember them at all. Why didn't get some of those things. Like when you exercise regularly that it can keep your metabolism working for at least a couple of days. That gives me a whole new attitude about exercise and also tells me why I did so well back then with my weight loss. I exercised 20 minutes 3 days a week which she says is enough to keep our metabolism revved up. I read somewhere that was not enough and I can't do more because of my back so I just gave up and quit. Obviously they were wrong, because Joyce wouldn't lie to us. I am reading in the chapter about Balance now. I think I am going to get more balanced food and balance in my life. I can do that and still stay low carb, just have to choose quality carbs.


I know that is one of the things the Holy Spirit does for us is to "remind us" of stuff that we forget. I am really glad to have the book. It does make sense. I am rereading it tonight, then will put it on a shelf and go back to it, like I said, to stay refreshed in those areas.:chin::book2:

Ryanne
10-16-2009, 09:15 PM
I would like to extend an invitation for anyone who would like to post here, to go ahead and do so. The only thing I don't want is arguments over doctrine or coming against someone's faith. This is a place for encouragement. It is a place for in depth discussion of the Lord and the things He does in our lives, so I don't want any strife or bashing. If you would like to post and have fun in a peaceful way, you are welcome to post. :)

pattygirl63
10-16-2009, 09:19 PM
I thought I would tell you a little about myself. I was born and raised in Waco, TX and lived many places in TX over the years. I lived in Dallas area for a number of years and married my first husband when I was 19. When we were 21, he had a staff infection and pneumonia that killed a lot of people that year and he was one of them. When I was 27 yrs old, I married my old sweetheart that I dated when I was in Junior High and High school. We were married for almost 31 years and he had congestive heart failure and died in November, 2000 the Monday before Thanksgiving. He was probably the love of my life and my very best friend as well. We raised 2 sons and a daughter together and also her 3 children. I have 3 grandchildren 2 boys and a girl and 2 great grands. I miss them a lot because one son lives between Galveston and Houston in Webster. My other son used to live in Dallas area, but we all lost touch with him because his wife doesn't like any of us. My daughter and her companion and his son lives in Arkansas. Her children live in Waco area except one son lives in Japan the last I heard while in the Navy.

In 2002, I met my present husband online through ChristiaNet.com. He lived in southeat FL at the time. He and his wife were married 31 years and she died in Sept, 2000 two months before my husband passed away. We dated on the telephone every night, all night long most nights. I used to say I had to marry him to get some rest, because we would talk on the phone all night and then I would get a quick nap and then get up and go to work. The important thing to me was that Tony is a born again Christian. We talked things out and I finally decided that I had raised my grandchildren and enjoyed them, but Tony's grandchildren were little so when we decided to marry I moved to FL. God really blessed me with his grandchildren especially the ones who live in FL. They knew right off that I wasn't trying to take the place of their Grandmother and they were allowed to talk to me any time they want to especially the son who remembers her. They called me Nannie from the moment they met me. The cute thing that happened the night I met them was that Tyler came to me and whispered to me "Do you know about my Meemaw?" I said, "I sure do and and I know how close you were to her and how much you loved her." I told him that I had been that close to my Grandmother and I missed her too. I said "So any time you want to talk about her you can talk to me about her". We've had a very special relationship ever since then. He is a precious Christian young man. Tony's son and his wife and 2 children live in IN.

Well, Tony's Mom who lived with us died and we moved to SC with the plan that when his daughter and her children could that they would move here. Obviously God had other plans because she married a man who would love to move here but can't leave his son who lives with his ex-wife.

My 86 year old Daddy and his 82 year old wife live in TX. My Mama who was my best friend other than hubby bill, went to live in Heaven in Sept, 1992. I still miss her and being able to talk to her. I have 2 sisters who live in TX and I miss all of my family but Tony trys to take me back home to visit every 2 years. Don't know if I'll be able to do that next year with the economy like it is.

I love SC because it is almost like being back home with the 4 seasons. I love my church, but I miss having family around especially for the holidays.

So that is my story in a nutshell.

Catch y'all tomorrow.

pattygirl63
10-16-2009, 09:22 PM
I know that is one of the things the Holy Spirit does for us is to "remind us" of stuff that we forget. I am really glad to have the book. It does make sense. I am rereading it tonight, then will put it on a shelf and go back to it, like I said, to stay refreshed in those areas.:chin::book2:

I think I am going to do like you said in another post. I'm going to read it over and over again, because it does make so much sense. Her ideas are so similar to Intuitive Eating along with balance and healthy eating etc.

Ryanne
10-16-2009, 10:42 PM
Thank you for sharing your story. Isn't it amazing how God leads us? I'm glad you have Tony and that his family loves you.
It's very difficult to go through the hard times, and thank God he helps us to be able to smile and enjoy life once again. Sometimes the hurt is still there, I know, but God is sooo merciful.
I'm glad I can enjoy life once again.
I'm so glad you are here with me and that I have you for a friend.
:hug:

About Eat and Stay thin: Yes Joyce is very practical and God does have a specific way he wants each of us to eat.
I think it's good that she stresses "eat freely of the things "GOD" created". That is very helpful, although we can treat ourselves once in a while to something that isn't really of nutritional value, it is good to eat good healthy foods most of the time.

Ryanne
10-17-2009, 02:36 PM
Bootsie, wondering if you are okay. Computer still giving you problems?
Trish, It blessed me to hear your testimony.
Well, this morning, I am cleaning house, doing laundry and confessing Scriptures. I went out for a walk this morning, very chilly but beautiful.
God is so Good.
Well, I guess I will get off the computer and finish up my chores. Husband will be home for lunch soon.
Have a nice Saturday! :sunny:

pattygirl63
10-17-2009, 05:02 PM
Just a quick flyby to say hi. I got a lot of my laundry done last night even things I usually do on Saturday. This morning I got up and did the things I usually wash on Sunday night after church. I'm thankful to have that done, but I have a lot of house work to do to get my house ready for the holidays. You know that cleaning that we put off doing. Hubby had to go pick up his meds so I went with him to do that too.

Got my devotionals and Bible study done and read some more in Joyce's book. You know I'm just trying to do what she said and keep things balanced. Eat when I'm hungry and stop when statisfied. Ryanne, when you started reading the book, did you feel like it was almost all new to you? There were so many things that I had marked back when I first got the book that I had totally forgotten. Although I low carbed even back then and lost weight I have to say that I lost a lot of that weight doing things she suggested in this book.

Bootsie I hope you are doing okay.

Y'all have a blessed weekend.

Ryanne
10-17-2009, 07:56 PM
Ryanne, when you started reading the book, did you feel like it was almost all new to you? There were so many things that I had marked back when I first got the book that I had totally forgotten. Although I low carbed even back then and lost weight I have to say that I lost a lot of that weight doing things she suggested in this book.
There were some things I had quite forgotten and some things that I remembered. When I read this before I had lost quite a bit of weight, too, and then went back.
This time I have a different "take" on a lot of it, since God has grown me up some and some of the things make more sense to me now.
I don't think the book is the same as the one I had back then, because I was wanting to refresh in some areas and they weren't in the book. There may be another book out there somewhere or possibly it was on cd that could be possible...because sometimes her teaching cd's are way different than the books.
Anyway, it was some "new" things that I really don't remember and some things I did remember....that is the importance of staying "refreshed" in areas.
We, as humans, forget stuff.
I am glad it was confirmation to me.
Well, have a good evening. :hug:

pattygirl63
10-18-2009, 12:19 AM
There were some things I had quite forgotten and some things that I remembered. When I read this before I had lost quite a bit of weight, too, and then went back.
This time I have a different "take" on a lot of it, since God has grown me up some and some of the things make more sense to me now.
I don't think the book is the same as the one I had back then, because I was wanting to refresh in some areas and they weren't in the book. There may be another book out there somewhere or possibly it was on cd that could be possible...because sometimes her teaching cd's are way different than the books.
Anyway, it was some "new" things that I really don't remember and some things I did remember....that is the importance of staying "refreshed" in areas.
We, as humans, forget stuff.
I am glad it was confirmation to me.
Well, have a good evening. :hug:

There are so many good things that I did 7 years ago when I lost most of this weight. I made it a habit to eat what I wanted but moderately. Never stuffed or overate because I hated the feeling. To teach myself that I didn't have to eat everything on my plate, I would leave just one bite on my plate. I don't know where I got the idea I had to eat it all. I asked Daddy a while back about it because I don't remember them making us eat all the food on our plates and he said "No, they never had that rule". I think that must have come from a time when my first husband was living. There were times when we had plenty of food and then there were times we didn't have much at all. I think when you go hungry that it makes you overeat when you do have food. Also there was a time when married to my 2nd husband and the children were little, that I had $20 a week to feed the 5 of us and I would see to it that they had food since Bill worked and the kids were in school. I didn't work out of the home so I didn't very much. When we got to where food was plentiful, I ate too much and then the yo-yo dieting started.

Could you have been thinking of her book Look Great Feel Great 12 Keys to Enjoying a Healthy Life Now. I just looked at it and the book we are reading now seems to tell us why we do certain overeat etc. I just got the other book out and just from looking at the Table of Contents, it seems to tell us things we need to do to be healthy. So maybe it was the one you were thinking of. I plan to finish reading Eat & Stay Thin book tomorrow or Monday. I don't know if we are having Bible study tomorrow night or not, if not I will finish it tomorrow and then start the Look Great Feel Great book Monday.

I'm still watching the carbs although I am adding in good carbs moderately and then eating more fruits, veggies and protiein. I realize that it is important to have the balance of good foods.

I don't catch you tomorrow. Have a wonderfully, blessed Sunday and I will be back Monday.

Ryanne
10-18-2009, 08:49 AM
It very well could be that book, Trish. I used to have most of her books, and some of the teaching cd's...so you may be right, anyway, I am gleaning a lot of good out of this book. I am watching sat fats, too much salt and too much sugar.
One thing I wanted to mention, is the drinking of water. Yesterday, I was searching for something about Kenneth Copeland, and came across something else, but it was about water, which stated that being dehydrated can cause dizziness. So anyway, basically, it said about drinking the 8 glasses of water per day, but then it said something about drinking an extra 2 glasses of water for every 25 lbs. you are overweight. Anyways, I went and got a 33 oz. water bottle, and figured I will drink 3 of those per day...I will make sure I drink 33 oz. in the morning, another 33 oz. in the afternoon and another 33 oz. in the evening. I KNOW I haven't been drinking enough water.
" When you are led by the Holy Spirit you won't fulfill the lust of the flesh." I like this.
I ask Him to help me to be led by Him.
Well, I will probably be back on later. Have a GREAT DAY!!!:D

pattygirl63
10-18-2009, 05:44 PM
Ryanne, thanks for sharing about the water. I must not have drank enough yesterday. I got up this morning and felt dizzy and wondered what in the world was going on. Had to just stand stand there a few minutes to let adjust to feeling normal again. I had been sleeping harder than usually so it could have been a combination. I usually drink at least 2 or 3 32 oz bottles of water everyday besides the other things that I drink.

I finished Eat and Stay Thin and started reading the Introduction in the other book. Very enlighting. It is so interesting to learn how much God wants to help us do this. I don't know why I always thought God would help me with other problems I had, but never thought of Him wanting to work with me in this area as well. What a wonderful revelation this has been.

" When you are led by the Holy Spirit you won't fulfill the lust of the flesh." I like this. I ask Him to help me to be led by Him.

Amen! Must have been the scripture for today. I read this during devotional this morning. We need to remember who we really are because of Who lives inside of us.

Have a great evening, Sister.

Ryanne
10-18-2009, 08:18 PM
And YES, GOD WANTS TO HELP US AND HE DOES HELP US!!! IF He is for us, then who can be against us???? NO ONE! God is in control and we can TRUST HIM!!!:carrot:

pattygirl63
10-18-2009, 11:01 PM
And YES, GOD WANTS TO HELP US AND HE DOES HELP US!!! IF He is for us, then who can be against us???? NO ONE! God is in control and we can TRUST HIM!!!:carrot:

AMEN!!!! PRAISE GOD!!!

Ryanne
10-19-2009, 01:38 PM
Because of Jesus we were put into right-standing with God. We were made whole and loosed. Everything is past tense, because it is already done! Speak words of faith! IT IS FINISHED! By HIS STRIPES YE WERE HEALED! Start speaking life and faith to your bodies.
It is already done, you are already free. You are free to make your decision to follow the Holy Spirit and not your mere flesh.
You are free to make good choices. You are free! Whom the LORD HAS SET FREE is FREE INDEED! You are free indeed!
Walk and live in your freedom! Healing is not something you need to "get"...it is already done. Thank God that you already are healed and free and that your body is in line with the WORD OF GOD!
Peace and be Still.... God is in control. He made your body and sure knows how to fix it! He loves us a very lot!!!
;):D:grouphug::dancer:

pattygirl63
10-19-2009, 06:31 PM
That is so true Ryanne. This morning in my Bible reading time I was reading where the priest told David "Don't stay in the stronghold". As I read that, I remember how we used to wonder what a stronghold and how we got free from it. It was as if the Lord spoke to me and said "Don't stay in this stronghold any longer". What and where is the stronghold. The stronghold is in my mind. For 44+ years, I have lived in the stronghold of "diet" thinking food all the time.

As we begin to renew our minds by reading, studying, speaking and meditating on the Word of God, we are being loosed from the stronghold Satan has had on us. That is how Jesus sets us free, through our faith in His Word. I also believe that if we have no faith or very little when we first start speaking that Word that it won't matter. Because God promised that His Word would not return to Him void, I believe that the more that we speak the Word concerning our weight or any other problem that eventually that Word will take route in our hearts and become fruitful to do what it is sent forth to do.

Hope you're having a great day.

Ryanne
10-19-2009, 07:00 PM
That is so true Ryanne. This morning in my Bible reading time I was reading where the priest told David "Don't stay in the stronghold". As I read that, I remember how we used to wonder what a stronghold and how we got free from it. It was as if the Lord spoke to me and said "Don't stay in this stronghold any longer". What and where is the stronghold. The stronghold is in my mind. For 44+ years, I have lived in the stronghold of "diet" thinking food all the time.

As we begin to renew our minds by reading, studying, speaking and meditating on the Word of God, we are being loosed from the stronghold Satan has had on us. That is how Jesus sets us free, through our faith in His Word. I also believe that if we have no faith or very little when we first start speaking that Word that it won't matter. Because God promised that His Word would not return to Him void, I believe that the more that we speak the Word concerning our weight or any other problem that eventually that Word will take route in our hearts and become fruitful to do what it is sent forth to do.

Hope you're having a great day.



Here is something from Joyce Meyer on her Healing Scriptures...You can get this on her website. It's free.


"Proverbs 4:20-22 says, My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. Let them not*depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. For they are life to those that find them, and health to all their flesh. (KJV)

The Hebrew word for “health” in verse 22 is “medicine.” God’s Word is medicine to all our flesh. Isaac Leeser’s translation of Exodus 15:26 reads, I the Lord am thy physician. The medicine He*prescribes is His Word.

Many make the mistake of substituting belief in healing for the actual taking of God’s*medicine – His Word. They say, “I believe in*healing” without actually taking the*medicine. What good would*it do for you to believe in food if you didn’t eat it? You would*starve. What good would it do*for*you to believe in water if*you didn’t actually drink*any? You would die of thirst.

God’s Word is His medicine. There are several parallels between God’s medicine and natural medicine.

First: God’s Word is a healing agent, just as natural medicine is a healing agent or catalyst. In other*words, the medicine itself contains the capacity to produce healing. Inherent within God’s Word is the capacity, the energy, the ability, and the nature to effect healing in your body."

Then she says: The Word itself contains the power to produce what it says. Just as when God said, “Let there be light” and there was light, healing Scriptures contain within them the capacity to produce healing.

The key to partaking of the life and healing energy in the Word is feeding on it until it penetrates your spirit where it deposits that life and energy.

Second: We might say that medicine is no respector of persons. It will work for anyone who takes*it. It is not a matter of if God is willing or not willing to heal any individual, but whether or*not the*individual will receive healing by taking the medicine that produces it.

Third, and most important: Medicine must be taken according to directions to be effective. Some medicine labels read, “Take internally”; others say, “Take externally.” To*rub it on your body*externally when the directions say to take it internally will not work. To take it after meals when the directions say take it before meals will reduce its effectiveness. To take it once in a while*when the directions say three times a day will mean limited results, if any. No matter how good the medicine is, it must be taken according to the directions or it won’t work. So it is with God’s medicine. It must be taken according to directions for it to*work. The directions for taking God’s medicine are found in:

Proverbs 4:20-21 – Attend to them, incline your ear to them, don’t let them depart from before your eyes, and keep them in the midst of your heart.

We might say that attending to them, inclining your ear to them, and*keeping them before your eyes*causes the Word to get into the midst of your heart. Notice this: It is only as God’s Words get*in the*midst of your heart and stay there that they produce healing in your body. Head knowledge won’t do. They are going to have to penetrate to your spirit through meditation – attending, hearing, looking, muttering, musing, pondering – to produce healing in your*body. But*once they do penetrate, they will surely bring health*to all your flesh. … let them penetrate deep within your heart. (Living Bible)

You can see again that God’s way of healing is spiritual. Power is ministered first to your spirit,*then distributed to your body. God’s medicine must be taken internally. Listen, instead of*wondering whether you have enough faith to be healed, just take the medicine. This handout contains Healing Scriptures. Feed on them several times a day, repeating them over and over again*to yourself. The medicine itself will work if you will get it inside of you.

Fourth: Remember that it takes time for medicine to work. Most people give natural medicine a*lot*of time, patience, and money to work. They take the prescription back for refills and more refills. They are diligent about it. They don’t just take one dose and expect a miracle. Keep taking God’s medicine. Give it time to work.

Take your medicine. Say these Scriptures to yourself. Think on what you’re saying in your heart. Use them in praise to the Father. His Word is medicine to all your flesh.

***Here is a link*** http://www.joycemeyer.org/OurMinistries/EverydayAnswers/FeaturedHandouts/healingscriptures.htm?&MSHiC=65001&L=10&W=HEALINGS%20healing%20&Pre=%3CFONT%20STYLE%3D%22color%3A%20%23000000%3B%2 0background-color%3A%20%23FFFF00%22%3E&Post=%3C/FONT%3E&print=true

Ryanne
10-20-2009, 12:06 PM
I like this and I thought it would be helpful to others.

Part 2: The Truth Will Make You Free!
Pg. 59 Lack of Knowledge
In regard to eating, lack of knowledge leads to poor food choices. Food with high fat, salt , calorie and cholesterol content is the culprit behind many an overweight body. Many people overeat or become overweight simply because they don't have proper understanding of what they are putting in their bodies. They fill themselves with foods that have no nutritional value so they do not satisfy their real hunger.
Pg. 60 As a result they go around constantly looking for something to eat because they don't feel satisfied.
GET EDUCATED!
1 Cor. 10:1 "For I don't want you to be ignorant..." KNOW what you are putting in your body! Eat foods that satisfy you instead of eating great quantities of what you consider "diet foods" that leave you hungry.
Pg. 61 It is amazing what you will turn down if you will just start reading the labels to see what you are about to put in your body. Yet many people eat all kinds of things like that and never even bother to read the label. That is part of what God means when He says that His people are destroyed because of a lack of knowledge.
Pg. 62 GET OFF THE DIET-GO-ROUND!
2 Pet 2:19 "...a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him."
Pg. 63 You are supposed to do normal things. You are supposed to eat balanced meals, you are supposed to eat a little bit of everything you need without overdoing it. You are supposed to exercise enough to burn off what you eat so it doesn't just stay on you.
Healthy eating is the key. If you have to go around with food on your mind all the time, counting everything you eat, and worrying about everything you eat, that is bondage.
Pg. 65 It doesn't matter how thin a person is, if you have food on your mind all the time, you are in bondage just as much as if you have to count every calorie that goes into your mouth.
The real issue is not thin versus fat, it is bondage versus freedom. God does not want His children to be in bondage to anything. That's why He sent His Son, Jesus, to set us free. John 8:36 says that "Whom the Son has set free is free indeed!"
Pg. 66 GET YOUR MIND OFF FOOD!
Rom. 8:14 "For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God." As Christians we are free to be led by the Spirit, not by the latest fad diet.
Pg. 67 We need to get educated and STAY INFORMED about food and proper nutrition.
Just as we turn to the Bible when we start getting into trouble with anger or some other harmful emotion, so we have to return to good books on nutrition to return to what we know about proper eating habits. Stay educated and stay confident."

I thought that would be helpful and practical. I know for me, it makes sense to eat when I am hungry and to choose something nutritious so that I don't just feel hungry or unsatisfied. The nutritious things are things our bodies can actually use, and not just have to store, because there is no nutritional value.
Once in a while I like chocolate, well I don't eat it every day or even that often, but when I do, I choose a good dark chocolate that would have a lot of antioxidants and monounsaturated fat value.
I wouldn't choose milk chocolate. (Although I might have something for a "treat once in a great while".
But you see what I mean? Anyway, hope this helps you as it did me.

pattygirl63
10-20-2009, 02:18 PM
Ryanne Great posts. Isn't it wonderfully, marvelous that our Father God had given us the answers to ALL of our problems and they were there in front of us all the time.

I was thinking this morning about how many times I went to church where I was told what I was supposed to do or should do to be a Christian, but know one ever told me how to do it. My life went to **** in a hand basket for years while I tried with all my might to live like I thought I was supposed to live only to fall flat on my face. I saw so many people in church who taught all these things, but they were not living a successful Christian life either. If I had not loved the Lord so strongly, I would have given up.

I bless the day that God brought ministers like Kenneth E. Hagin, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis and Creflo Dollar. These people changed my life when I learned that I could change my life by confessing the Word and speaking according to the Word of God. It helps to also realize that as we submit our lives to God, He will work the changes in us. Jesus actually helps us change because we cannot do it on our own no matter how much we try.

My heart went out to the Father today as I thought of all the times that I cried out to God because I wanted to stop doing things I knew didn't please him but didn't know how. I know there are many people out there who probably born again as I was, but had no power to live the life God wanted me to live. Then I realized, I had the power in me because I was born again. I just didn't know I had the power and wouldn't have known how to use it if I had known that I had it. I pray that God will lead those people to those who can help them so they don't have to go down the path I did.

What a difference it makes when "We know the truth as it really does set us free".

I see we have a lot of lurkers. Please feel free to jump in and share your thoughts with us and what the Lord has taught you.

Have a blessed day Everybody.

Ryanne
10-20-2009, 02:52 PM
I completely understand what you are saying, but you know what, I believe that we learn as God intends us to. I was struggling, too, and I did find Joyce Meyer and others, but I had so many problems, that looking back, I can see that I have changed from glory to glory.
We can't handle everything all at once, and God is good to help us learn what we need to learn when we need to learn it.
I had many Christian people in my life who were not helpful, even though they tried to be, "I think"...but it was hard when they would tell me that I was "doing it wrong" and would point out my faults and what needed to change and if they would have just understood that THEY are not the Holy Spirit, it could have saved me a lot of pain and anguish. BUT it helps me in how I deal with people. I pray for God to speak through me and give me HIS words, because I really want to be careful to not hinder others or break their spirit.
I still don't do everything right, and looking back at my path, I have had times of being really in the word, and times of being dry and making a lot of mistakes and doing bad things, and then coming back and going, HELP ME GOD, but I never left Him and He never left me, it was just life. We don't know what we are doing sometimes, but God is so merciful, and if I can relay one thing that will save anyone some of the trouble I went through, it is this JESUS IS OUR DAILY BREAD... and HE IS THE VINE AND I AM A BRANCH...OF MYSELF I CAN DO NOTHING, BUT I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME.
I pray I never forget to have Jesus as my Daily Bread. I NEED HIM more than I need anything else! :hug:

The way to have Jesus as your daily bread is by reading your Bible, or another faith filled book, or praying, or listening to Christian Music, or praising or worshiping, or by meditating on the Word, or by Confessing Scriptures, or just being aware of what He is doing in our lives. There are no set rules, no specific amount of time, just be free to worship Him. We were created to have fellowship with God, and that is what He wants. We can talk to Him just like we talk to anybody else. You can even laugh with Him, He can be a lot of fun, and God does have a sense of humor...if He didn't he sure wouldn't have made "MONKEYS"....LOL... God loves us so much and he is not mad at you. He sent Jesus to die for us, because He knew that we couldn't do it ourselves.
He loves us so much, and once you take Jesus as your Savior, you are free.
God already knows everything we ever did, anything we are doing now, and anything we ever will do, and He has already approved us! If we will repent, He is faithful to forgive us. He sure doesn't want us to be hindered from BOLDLY coming to His throne through Jesus...and spending time with our Daddy. He wants us to know He loves us so much and is not MAD at us.

pattygirl63
10-20-2009, 05:29 PM
AMEN SO TRUE!!! Ryanne!!! His Love and Compassion is beyond comprehension. I remember one time I was in a situation that I just couldn't handle and could not get out of. I knew I was wrong and needed out of it so I ran to the Lord and told Him. "I love You Lord and I don't want to do anything that does not please You, but I can't seem to change it because sometimes I don't want out. I need You to help me to get out of this sin and stop it". I really didn't have the revelation about the flesh at that time. I know that I know that I actually heard the Lord say to me in my spirit, "You keep reading your Bible, praying and spending time with me and I will take care of it" which is exactly what happened. I kept doing all the other things right that I knew to do, suddenly one day He changed my whole situation and He actually rescued me from it. There is nothing like His Love and Goodness toward us. God is so good to us and I believe that He will go to whatever length He has to and do what is needed to change whatever needs to be changed if we will just ask Him and trust Him to do it. And He does it just because He love us and we love Him. That is what Jesus went to Calvary for... to rescue us from sin and to set us free. Praise God!!!

This gives me the confidence that He is doing that with my eating. When I quit smoking, I really didn't go through any problems. I was pregnant and I knew it wasn't good for the baby so I just quit. When I miscarried and lost the baby, there was no desire to go back to smoking. It was just gone. I never was a big drinker, but I would have a drink on special occasions especially with my deceased husbands family. One time when we were at his Mothers for a Christmas party, his aunt asked if I wanted a drink and I said no. It really wasn't a spiritual decision and it didn't bother me that they were drinking. In fact, I was more surprised than anyone. The desire just wasn't there. I used to confess the scripture in Psalm 103:1 thru 5. One day as I confessed "He satisfies my mouth with good things so that my youth is restored like the eagles" and I realized that I could believe for Him to give me the desire for food that is good for me. That is what I am trusting Him to do now. As I thought of Him suddenly taking away the desire for smoking and drinking, it came to me that while He can change my desire for the right kinds of foods that He can also take away the desire for junk foods.

He makes things sooooo Simple. We are the ones who makes things so complicated.

Ryanne
10-20-2009, 11:48 PM
I used to confess the scripture in Psalm 103:1 thru 5. One day as I confessed "He satisfies my mouth with good things so that my youth is restored like the eagles" and I realized that I could believe for Him to give me the desire for food that is good for me. That is what I am trusting Him to do now. As I thought of Him suddenly taking away the desire for smoking and drinking, it came to me that while He can change my desire for the right kinds of foods that He can also take away the desire for junk foods.

He makes things sooooo Simple. We are the ones who makes things so complicated.

Yes, He does make it simple, and I like what you said about this, because it is just what I needed to hear. We are the ones who make things so complicated, we do sometimes forget the Simplicity that is in Christ.
I remember when I didn't have the desire to drink or do other things, so I am standing on this for myself right now, too. Thank you, Trish. :)

Ryanne
10-21-2009, 01:49 AM
I hope you are doing good, I'm guessing you're just having computer trouble...can't wait to hear from you!:hug:

pattygirl63
10-21-2009, 09:11 AM
Good Morning,

A quick flyby as I'm headed out to BSF this morning. Catch you later today. Have a great day!

Ryanne
10-21-2009, 01:17 PM
As I mentioned in the prayer thread, my mother went home to be with the Lord this morning at 2:30am. I want to thank "my family" here at 3FC for your support and prayers. I love you all. Have a blessed day. :grouphug:

pattygirl63
10-21-2009, 03:04 PM
Ryanne Prayers and thought coming your way.

Bootsie I hope all is well with you.

Well, I went to BSF today and one of the Principles and the questions asked along with it were "The fruit of belief in Jesus is a change in focus from self to Jesus". Is there any competition between you and Jesus? Where does He want to be the boss, but you haven't let Him?

Boy I immediately thought of my way of eating and losing weight. Self on the throne of the way I eat? Have I been refusing to give Jesus the throne concerning my eating? Do I really want that position myself? Jesus wants to sit on the throne of my heart when it comes to the way I eat. Am I willing to change and give Him that position? Or am I trying to keep Self on the throne in that area of my life. I NEVER would have thought of it that way. WHAT AN EYE OPENING REVELATION!!! Somewhere I heard that when God shines His Light on an area in our life that He is ready to change it. So today I believe the question is... Am I willing and ready to give Him the throne and let Him be Lord of my eating so He can change me?

Well, the answer is that I sure have not been handling things very well on my own. In fact, I've made a mess of things trying to do it my way. And I've certainly learned that I cannot do it on my own. On my own, even doing it the world's way has failed miserable. However, I also know and am confident that through Jesus Christ, I can do all things even give Him the throne so He can teach me His way for me to eat and lose weight. And yes I will even need His help so that I will not only allow Him the throne in this area, but I'll need Him to help me to keep Him there. So today I make that decision to give Him the throne and let Him be Lord of the way I eat. I know it will be a process, but when I do it His way there will eventually be success.

Ryanne
10-21-2009, 08:29 PM
My goal, too, is to let Him be the Lord of my Life and in CONTROL. I love Him and know that He wants what is best for me and I can trust Him.
We are victorious, because it is already done, and when doubt comes to my mind, I have to shake it off and know the Lord is For ME! :hug:

pattygirl63
10-21-2009, 11:42 PM
Yes, I agree. Till tomorrow.

Ryanne
10-22-2009, 04:53 PM
"Many of us have felt that something was missing in our lives, and we thought to fill it with food. If we're not feeding on Jesus, no matter how much we stuff ourselves with food, we don't have life! We're not only missing something from our lives, we are missing life itself!"

(***This is from Setting Captives Free website...I did this study a long long time ago, it's called The Lord's Table. I don't know that I recommend it, I am just going back through it to see if there was anything to glean.
I wouldn't suggest the diet portion, and some of the context is a little hard/harsh, I believe that we are harder on ourselves than what God is...so I strongly encourage only really mature Christians to read this, because it can be a bit overwhelming.
But nonetheless, there are a few things to glean.***)

But the truth here is that when we do feed on Jesus, the physical food seems to lose it's pull.
I hope you all are doing well today. I will check back in later. ;)

Ryanne
10-22-2009, 10:09 PM
I gave up the control to God finally, I really think I didn't know "HOW" or "what it really meant"...but God is good and patient with us.
So today I didn't weigh myself, and am planning to only weigh once a month at the beginning of the month so I quit obsessing about it, and worrying about it too much.
Sorry I have been a bit distracted the last few days, with my mom and all. I really haven't known what to say on here. Somehow, it doesn't seem that important to me right now, even though I am not overeating or anything.
Maybe not making the "best choices" in what I am eating, but don't feel up to cooking.
Oh, well.
I am wondering about Bootsie, probably just computer trouble.
Trish, thank you for being such a good friend, and thank all of you who are continuing to pray for me and my family. I really appreciate it.
You all have a wonderful evening. :)

Kelli
10-23-2009, 12:12 AM
My dear friend Ryann,

I wish I had your gift for words and encouragement so I could help you like you have helped me and so many others on this forum. I am sorry for you but... celebrating with you for your mom going home. It seems the older I get the more I realize how short our little lives are and how fast the generations go. I love you and will continue to keep you in my prayers.

:hug:

Love, Kelli

Ryanne
10-23-2009, 08:32 AM
My dear friend Ryann,

I wish I had your gift for words and encouragement so I could help you like you have helped me and so many others on this forum. I am sorry for you but... celebrating with you for your mom going home. It seems the older I get the more I realize how short our little lives are and how fast the generations go. I love you and will continue to keep you in my prayers.

:hug:

Love, Kelli

Thank You, Kelli, It brings me so much comfort to know where she is! Thank you for praying for me, I appreciate you soooooo much! And Kelli, You do have an amazing gift for words. He speaks through you the same as through me, and He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and forever. I am blessed by your words, Kelli.
I do miss her, yes, but I know where she is, she has no pain and only joy. They are celebrating her homecoming.
:hug::)

Ryanne
10-23-2009, 10:18 AM
Did you ever realize that the more you focus on something, you steer yourself in that direction?
For example: I have been determined to stay away from the Casino. The last few days, I have been tempted to go, to "not have to think" and to "have fun". Well, looking back, I even said to my husband a couple of times, "I just want to go to the Casino"...but I had been resisting temptation. Well, yesterday when my son and daughter in law came over, he said that he had gone to the casino the other day, and wanted to go again. My flesh got excited and I told him I wanted to go. He decided he didn't want to go, and I asked him if he would take me cuz I didn't want to go by myself. So he and his wife and I went, we didn't even have fun. None of us had fun. There was no life in it...no fun at all.
Well, my point is, sometimes when I focus on food or "not eating food" it steers my course in that direction. My focus needs to be on Jesus and serving other people and keeping my mind busy about how I can be a blessing to others instead of being "selfish".
I have been babysitting my granddaughter, and being a blessing in that area, and taking care of the house and stuff, but my focus has been on "what to eat, when to eat, what not to eat, when not to eat, how much do I weigh...and when I was fasting, I was wondering "I wonder how much weight I lost?"
Wow, what an eye opener it is to have weight and food on your mind ALL THE TIME! I know this is not what God wants for us.
I am determined to work with Him to get my mind off of it and on to HIM.
I am going to quit reading about diets and how to do this.... I have enough knowledge (which is important) to know what I should be eating and I just need to quit trying to do it "myself" and start learning to follow the Holy Spirit and glorifying God in my eating and drinking.
My focus needs to change, I need to start seeing the end result and just know that every day, I am doing what I need to do, and watching the scale is not going to make it happen any faster.
I am determined to weigh only once a month...and eat the right things for my body and continue to exercise my body in the way that I know brings me pleasure.
I am determined to focus on being a blessing to my family and people around me.
I am going to quit focusing on weight and food, although I will to be a good steward of my body for it is the "Temple of God."
I just know I have enough knowledge that I need to quit spending my energy and time on that and start doing what I should be doing. IE being a blessing, praying, reading, praising and worshipping, keeping my "self" off of my mind and knowing that GOD is in CONTROL and He knows what He is doing and my times are in His hands.
I know that it is His will for me to be thin and fit and healthy. I don't need to constantly be a little dictator to myself. I need to learn to be led by God's Holy Spirit and not provide for my flesh.
The Bible says not to make provision to fulfill the lust of the flesh. What that means to me, is if you are not snacking between meals, then don't purchase snacks and bring them into the house.
If you decide you want dessert one day, go out and get it....or if you have a specific day or two that you have desserts, purchase the desserts for those days and earmark them for that specifically, don't just eat them because they are there....be conscious of what you are doing. Quit focusing on those desserts! If you find yourself focusing, don't bring them in until the day you need them or go out special for dessert, like going to an ice cream and dairy store for a sundae or cone or whatever.
Another thing, keep in the house what you do need. I like to have sugar free gum around, and so I make sure I have that around in abundance so it is there when I want it.
I also like grapes once in a while...so I make sure to have those handy for when I may want some with a meal or a couple to snack on if I get hungry.
I make menu's for the week and I buy food accordingly. I know what we are having for each meal, and it helps to keep that food earmarked for that particular meal.
I decide early in the morning what I am going to do for that day, then if something crops up, I can remind myself "I already decided". For instance, today I decide I am eating 2 meals today. I don't want to snack between meals.
So, say around 3:00 pm my flesh starts wanting "chocolate" or something, I can remind myself, "I already decided that I am not snacking between meals today!" And then pray and ask God to help me to stick to my guns.
God will never allow us to be tempted more than we can say no to, and He will always provide a way out.
Sometimes I will decide to fast something for a month...Say "chocolate" (tee hee...do you see a weakness here???? LOL :D)... So say I am tempted by the enemy or my flesh to want chocolate.... I can tell myself, "I already decided I am fasting that until the 25th)... you see? We have the power to decide! Not our flesh!
"Follow the Spirit and you certainly won't fulfill the lust of the flesh."
:carrot:
We already have the victory.
I like what Joyce said in her book "Eat and Stay Thin" about educating ourselves about foods so we do not perish for lack of knowledge, and I like what she said about following a good eating program for ourselves... I know at the beginning of any changes, that we will be more focused on what to eat, when to eat and how to eat, but there comes a growing time after that when we need to just "do" what we know to do and be free to be led by the Holy Spirit.
I pray that we all learn how to be led by the Holy Spirit and that we can change our focus from "self" to God and Others.
Have a blessed day! God willing, I will check back in later.
I love you all, and want you to have an amazing day! :D

pattygirl63
10-23-2009, 08:12 PM
Great post Ryanne. I think you hit on the head what we all need to learn. Get our "focus" on the right things... mainly putting Jesus on the throne of our heart in every area of our lives including the way we eat. I think we all knew we were to put Him there "spiritually", but we didn't realize what it meant by ALL of us. I know I didn't really get it for a long time.

Jesus said, "Take no thought saying". That means things are thoughts first before we do them. Many times we say things in line with our thoughts instead of in line with God's Word and that is where we get messed up. For example, how many times did I make the cute little statement "I just smell food and gain weight". I wonder how many of those cute sayings that I am living out today?

As we get our focus on the things of the spirit through reading, studying, and meditating on the Word of God instead of reading, studying and meditating on what we are going to eat next, we will begin to see our spirit being becoming stronger than the flesh. This is when we will see "true" victory in our lives.

According to what I've read in the Intuitive Eating book, IE is a slower way of losing weight, but it does work because your life isn't centered/focused on what you can and cannot have. Because you are free to eat what you want. You just learn to eat as much as you need to satisfy you. There are no good foods, bad foods in IE. Once you get out of the diet mentality, you find freedom. It is a lot like what Joyce recommends doing in her books.

Everybody have a great weekend.

Ryanne
10-24-2009, 09:15 AM
According to what I've read in the Intuitive Eating book, IE is a slower way of losing weight, but it does work because your life isn't centered/focused on what you can and cannot have. Because you are free to eat what you want. You just learn to eat as much as you need to satisfy you. There are no good foods, bad foods in IE. Once you get out of the diet mentality, you find freedom. It is a lot like what Joyce recommends doing in her books.

Everybody have a great weekend.

This is exactly what God has been showing me. I know I need to avoid sat fats, and it's okay, because I really don't care about them, and I know that is God. (Praise Him for changing our desires!) I am learning, and my prayer this morning was "I want to do the right thing, I have the will and desire to do the right thing, but I'm sorry, I keep doing it wrong. I have no power to perform it. I need YOU Jesus to perform it through me. I need YOUR POWER because of myself I can do nothing. But I can do all things through Christ Who strengthens me. God if You don't help me, I'm gonna just keep on messing up, because I need YOUR power to help me and I need to quit doing things for vain reasons, and I WANT to glorify You in my eating and drinking. I WANT my life to glorify You and to be a book read by all men. I want to be a good witness. I need you, Holy Spirit to help me to want Your help and to help me to be led by You today."
I know I can't do this by myself. I sure will to do the right things, but no power in myself to perform it, but thank God, we can draw on HIS power and He is strong in our weakness. That way NO FLESH CAN GLORY, and I can't say "I did this by my power". I will be more than happy to give HIM the glory and know it was not me, but Him through me!
Have a wonderfully blessed day! :D:carrot:

pattygirl63
10-24-2009, 11:46 AM
WOW Ryanne

This is what I did this morning too before I got out of bed. I told the Lord this morning that I want Him to sit on the throne of my heart in every area in my life and especially when it comes to eating. I told Him that I am willing to do it, but I just cannot do it on my own. I told Him that I know the Holy Spirit is a gentlemen and He will not force me to do anything because I have to ask Him. So I asked Him to help me to do this right because I cannot do it without Him. I told Him I don't even know how to follow His leading when it comes to this part of my life, but I want to learn and that since the Holy Spirit is my Teacher and my Helper that I need Him to teach me and help me. I too have turned it over to Him. I just need Him to help me to keep Him there and I know He will. I asked Him to give me a check in my spirit when I'm not doing something the way I should. I know He will do it because Jesus said if we ask that we will receive.

You have a great Blessed Saturday.

Ryanne
10-24-2009, 02:49 PM
Romans 10:4-17 (The Message)

4-10The earlier revelation was intended simply to get us ready for the Messiah, who then puts everything right for those who trust him to do it. Moses wrote that anyone who insists on using the law code to live right before God soon discovers it's not so easy—every detail of life regulated by fine print! But trusting God to shape the right living in us is a different story— no precarious climb up to heaven to recruit the Messiah, no dangerous descent into **** to rescue the Messiah. So what exactly was Moses saying?

The word that saves is right here,
as near as the tongue in your mouth,
as close as the heart in your chest.
It's the word of faith that welcomes God to go to work and set things right for us. This is the core of our preaching. Say the welcoming word to God—"Jesus is my Master"—embracing, body and soul, God's work of doing in us what he did in raising Jesus from the dead. That's it. You're not "doing" anything; you're simply calling out to God, trusting him to do it for you. That's salvation. With your whole being you embrace God setting things right, and then you say it, right out loud: "God has set everything right between him and me!"

11-13Scripture reassures us, "No one who trusts God like this—heart and soul—will ever regret it." It's exactly the same no matter what a person's religious background may be: the same God for all of us, acting the same incredibly generous way to everyone who calls out for help. "Everyone who calls, 'Help, God!' gets help."

14-17But how can people call for help if they don't know who to trust? And how can they know who to trust if they haven't heard of the One who can be trusted? And how can they hear if nobody tells them? And how is anyone going to tell them, unless someone is sent to do it? That's why Scripture exclaims,

A sight to take your breath away!
Grand processions of people
telling all the good things of God!
But not everybody is ready for this, ready to see and hear and act. Isaiah asked what we all ask at one time or another: "Does anyone care, God? Is anyone listening and believing a word of it?" The point is: Before you trust, you have to listen. But unless Christ's Word is preached, there's nothing to listen to.

The Message (MSG)

Copyright © 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson


Wow! Just what we have been talking about. This is certainly confirmation! I like what verse 17 says :" Is anyone listening and believing a word of it?" The point is: Before you trust, you have to listen. But unless Christ's Word is preached, there's nothing to listen to." I certainly will continue to do my confessions and preach to myself!

Another part that really hit home was: " So what exactly was Moses saying?

The word that saves is right here,
as near as the tongue in your mouth,
as close as the heart in your chest.
It's the word of faith that welcomes God to go to work and set things right for us. This is the core of our preaching. Say the welcoming word to God—"Jesus is my Master"—embracing, body and soul, God's work of doing in us what he did in raising Jesus from the dead. That's it. You're not "doing" anything; you're simply calling out to God, trusting him to do it for you. That's salvation. With your whole being you embrace God setting things right, and then you say it, right out loud: "God has set everything right between him and me!"

11-13Scripture reassures us, "No one who trusts God like this—heart and soul—will ever regret it." It's exactly the same no matter what a person's religious background may be: the same God for all of us, acting the same incredibly generous way to everyone who calls out for help. "Everyone who calls, 'Help, God!' gets help.""

WOW! Is all I can say...God is so good andHe is a timely help just when we need it!!! :D :hug: ;)

So, see Trish, It's not us "doing" anything...we are simply calling out to God, trusting Him to do it for us! WOW!

Ryanne
10-25-2009, 07:39 PM
...doing what I believe is the most important thing...learning and reminding myself of who I am IN CHRIST and learning and reminding myself of God's UNCONDITIONAL LOVE for me.
This is so important in getting over self and self condemnation.
God already knows everything we ever did wrong, ever will do wrong and what we are doing wrong...and has accepted us anyway. Before the foundation of the earth, He already knew and He already decided that we were HIS and approved us, and predestined us for greatness.
As our focus on the Word and Who we are in Christ and God's love for us changes our thinking, our behavior can't help but to be changed, too. We are changed from Glory to Glory...and remember, when we spend time with God we are in His Glory, and are being changed.
God has a good plan for our lives and He will bring those good things to pass. ;):hug:

Ryanne
10-26-2009, 01:55 PM
I was talking with my sister earlier today, and she was saying that the family had been going through the folk's things, since my dad is going into a nursing home facility.
I really know the meaning of "store up your treasures in heaven where moth and rust does not corrupt." You are not taking anything with you when you go home except for the things that are eternal.
Funny how things that used to seem so important to me, now lack meaning. I now want to make sure that my relationships with my children, grandchildren, husband, ex husband, and my brothers and sisters and extended family and my dad and friends and friends I have not met yet, are cultivated.
I truly want to be like Jesus to each and every person I come across and I do want my life to glorify Him.
Souls are what matters...there is nothing more precious than people and their spiritual state.
Trish, when it comes to eating and drinking, the Lord has been leading me that He has made all foods clean. I think we still have to use wisdom, so we do not perish for lack of knowledge, yes, however, I am giving myself a lot more freedom to enjoy my food and to not restrict too much. I am praying and believing to be Spirit led.
Well, all, I hope to check back in later. I hope you all have a good Monday!

pattygirl63
10-26-2009, 08:29 PM
Ryanne Sorry I've not been here the past few days. I didn't do too well this weekend with the carbs. Just have to watch those. I decided to start The Metabolism Miracle diet to get my pancreas and liver functioning back to normal. And then teach my body how to handle carbs properly when they are re-introduced. Started that and exercise today. It is so important for me to be successful at taking care of this body since as Joyce always says, we don't get another one and can't replace it. My Daddy, and my 2 sisters and I all have problems with carbs. I suspect my Mama probably did too.

We just finished up a study on Nehemiah and the restoration of the wall in Jerusaleum. And then the first couple lessons at BSF was about Jesus going in and cleaning out the merchants and money changers from the Temple. Made it real to me that I need to clean out this temple and give it the nutrition needed to restore it to health.

I agree with you about not being able to take "things" with us when we leave this world. I want to leave a "godly" heritage with those I leave behind.

Hope you've had a great day.

Ryanne
10-26-2009, 09:38 PM
We just finished up a study on Nehemiah and the restoration of the wall in Jerusaleum. And then the first couple lessons at BSF was about Jesus going in and cleaning out the merchants and money changers from the Temple. Made it real to me that I need to clean out this temple and give it the nutrition needed to restore it to health.

You are so right, and I am in the process of "restoring and cleaning" the Temple as well.
I did miss you, and am glad that you are doing okay.
:hug:

Kelli
10-27-2009, 01:24 AM
Hello ladies!!

I have been reading through your post, and as usual they are awesome!!! I'm really excited, God has taken my thinking about eating away!!! I had to use scripture about every five or ten minutes the first few days. Whenever I started thinking about dieting or overeating, I just turned it over to Him and USED (not just recited) the Word. Now I only think about it once or twice a day and I automatically say my favorite scripture. Well there are a few I like to use. I like to say II Corinthians 10:3-6 (the weapons of our warfare) and also I love Psalm 27:13 I would have lost heart, unless I had believed that I would see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living 14 Wait on the LORD; Be of good courage, and He shall strengthen your heart; Wait, i say, on the LORD!

Love you guys!
Kelli

PS I have had a couple of PM's asking me about the study. I think I will start a new thread sometime this week discussing the study questions.

Ryanne
10-27-2009, 09:16 AM
Hello ladies!!

I have been reading through your post, and as usual they are awesome!!! I'm really excited, God has taken my thinking about eating away!!! I had to use scripture about every five or ten minutes the first few days. Whenever I started thinking about dieting or overeating, I just turned it over to Him and USED (not just recited) the Word. Now I only think about it once or twice a day and I automatically say my favorite scripture. Well there are a few I like to use. I like to say II Corinthians 10:3-6 (the weapons of our warfare) and also I love Psalm 27:13 I would have lost heart, unless I had believed that I would see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living 14 Wait on the LORD; Be of good courage, and He shall strengthen your heart; Wait, i say, on the LORD!

Love you guys!
Kelli

PS I have had a couple of PM's asking me about the study. I think I will start a new thread sometime this week discussing the study questions.

God has been doing the same thing with me, and I have been "using" the Word, too. He has been leading me to really eat when I am hungry...I mean, really eat...Like a full nutritious well balanced meal....I find as I am doing that, that I stay full longer and therefore don't continually have food on my mind all the time, and I am in the Word and am seeking HIM as my Daily Bread!
I am thankful for the Bible Study and think about it often.
I think it's a great idea for you to start a thread like that! I know I would read it and participate in it, too.
God has a good plan for you, Kelli. I'm so excited for you, just knowing God is working through you!
Joyce said something in the book "Approval Addiction". She was talking about Jesus being strong through our weaknesses, and well...I had been thanking God for my weaknesses, because that's cool, if I didn't have them, I certainly wouldn't need Jesus, and that would be sad.
But she said something that hit home...If you had a clay pot with a lid, and you put a lit candle inside that pot, and put the lid on, no one would be able to see the light...However, if that pot had a lot of cracks and holes in it, then the light would be able to show through those cracks. God uses "cracked pots"! I'm glad I have flaws, so His Light can shine through me! ;)

pattygirl63
10-27-2009, 02:47 PM
Hi Kellie and Ryanne,

Kellie - It is great to see you here and that the Lord has given you peace concerning food. I think that is great. I'm sure the Lord is leading you to share the Bible study with more people and a thread for it would be great. I would definitely enjoy reading others comments. I probably would not go back and redo the lessons as my BSF lesson are very time consuming and I am learning a lot in them. Even things I can apply to my way of eating. It seems that BSF and church sermons seem to touch it since that is where I am spiritually right now. I have just felt that it is soooo important for me to get the victory in this area of my life.

I have learned that my metabolism is what they call Metabolism B which means that I can't eat like some people do. I know my Daddy has that problem as well as my 2 sisters and I am sure that my Mother did as well. But God has led me to the right way of eating to correct the way my metabolism functions. I really believe God has answered my prayers to show me how to eat to heal my body. This morning in my devotional time, I had to read Psalm 18. David was talking of how God had delivered him of all his enemies. I felt it rise up in my spirit that this is what God is doing with me concerning my body, food etc. He is delivering me from my enemy. I am excited about what He is doing in my life. I know I have heard Joyce talk about how she has to eat for her body type. Never went into much detail except she is a low carber. I always wondered how she was a low carber and ate some of the things she ate. Now that I'm learning from this program I'm on, I understand. God is sooooooo Good ALL THE TIME. I love how He leads us to do what we need to do for our own body type. Like I've always said, who know our better than the One Who created it. He has led me to the way to eat and the way to exercise. So I am VERY Grateful to Him and I give Him ALL the praise and glory.

Well, I need to get off here. DH is going to be hungry soon. Y'all have a great day.

Ryanne
10-27-2009, 08:04 PM
God is sooooooo Good ALL THE TIME. I love how He leads us to do what we need to do for our own body type. Like I've always said, who know our better than the One Who created it. He has led me to the way to eat and the way to exercise. So I am VERY Grateful to Him and I give Him ALL the praise and glory.


I am glad that He is leading you. I am glad that I am learning to let Him lead me, instead of me having a plan then asking Him to bless it. Wow, I didn't ever realize how selfish I was...thank God He knew and is merciful anyway...LOL!
Basically, I am still not interested in sat fats, but I am eating a little more sugar items, with no harmful effects, and I have had a little more salt than usual, still not too much, but a little.
It's good He is showing me how to eat and how much and is leading me to stop when I am full and not overstuffed!
I have been sitting at about 202 for a week, no loss no gain, just holding steady...I had been down to 200 lbs, but that was after a fast, so I am not counting it.
I am glad He is setting me free from daily weighing as well, and I was tracking my weight online on a certain website, but I decided not to do that any more because my times are in His hands and I know it is His will for me to be thin and fit and healthy and His timing is perfect. Mine would like to hurry up, but it won't stay off...and I want lasting freedom.
One good thing is, I had been noticing "wrinkles" in my face and hands and was a little freaked about it, but now they are fine, and look like my skin is catching up to the weightloss...Thank God!
I feel good, too. I have been drinking more water, but still not what the internet suggestions say I should be drinking, but oh well...I am doing better...just hard to drink all that water, so I am letting Him lead me there, too.
I know water is important, but I just don't think my body can handle 99 oz...
That is a very lot! I can do about 66 oz a day. Plus I don't really drink anything else except for an occasional hot chocolate.
I am planning to get some international coffee tonight...I do like that stuff in the morning hours.
Well, husband should be on his way home. I hope to be back on later this evening.
I love you all.
Oh, an update on my dad....he went to a nursing home today. He is in Wisconsin. I haven't talked to him yet today, but I plan to call him this evening. My sis said when she left he was having a good time talking to all the people there. (He is very social, so I think he'll be fine.) I am trusting God that he will be.
My brother in law's mother was in that same facility before she passed, and she loved it, and he did, too. He is a District Attourney...and said that he chose that place because of how well they treat the patients there, and help them to have independence. I am so glad that he chose that place for my dad, because it helps to know that it is a wonderful place.
Well, all, have a nice evening. :grouphug:

pattygirl63
10-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Ryanne I agree that it is best to let the Lord lead us to eat the way He knows is right for us rather than doing what we want then asking Him to bless it. That is probably why things didn't have lasting success before. I am following basics of the plan I'm on, but when I feel there are some things that are too extreme and not healthy for me, I follow what I feel led to do by the Holy Spirit.

I am so glad that your Dad is happy with his new home. It is probably going to be good for him with him having just lost your step mom. Also sounds like a great place for a nursing home.

[B]Kellie[/B Today I was sharing some "spiritual" ensights on dieting and weight loss with my BSF group leader. She was complimenting me on how much ensight that I have. I told her that it was because of your Diet Bible Study I had done. That until I did the lessons that I had no idea that God wanted to do this for me and lead me like He has. I felt you should have the compliment since you are the one who showed me the way to the "light" concerning losing weight "God's Way".

Y'all have a great evening.
Catch you tomorrow.

Ryanne
10-28-2009, 05:07 PM
Thank God, and I didn't even weigh myself this morning and I have not been wondering about it either! God is soooooo good!!!
:carrot:

Sorry, I haven't been on here much, but my grandbaby has been needing me. I have been busy with babysitting her and entertaining her and my young son.
I hope you all have a good evening, I'll try to get on later....I'm tired.

pattygirl63
10-28-2009, 07:45 PM
I haven't been here much either. This is Day 3 on my program and the 1st 3 days are detox days. I went to BSF this morning and enjoyed that, but once I got home I've been tired. Supposed to start feeling better tomorrow.

I think it is great that you are able to be there for your grandbaby and son. How wonderful to have that time with them.

Hope you had a blessed day.

Ryanne
10-29-2009, 12:28 PM
I didn't weigh again this morning, it stressed me a little but not too much. I am doing well. It is thunder storming this morning so the walk will have to wait, but it is a good storm! Lots of rain, and the fall colors on the trees and lots of leaves on the ground...Beautiful!
I'm babysitting for my granddaughter full time now, as my son bought a house and needs a free sitter. I'm glad to have her! It's a little more work, but a lot more hugs and kisses!
:D:rain:

Ryanne
10-30-2009, 09:43 AM
I have been reading Joyce's book, "Approval Addiction"...it is chock full of good information! Wow!
Well, this morning, I stepped on the scale...and was down a pound. This is cool cuz I so have not been focused on "diet" or what to eat, etc. God is so good!! He sure can be trusted!!!! :carrot:

pattygirl63
10-30-2009, 08:29 PM
Hi Ryanne, I know you must be enjoying keeping your grandbaby. Tony's granddaughter was born a month before we married and I took care of her until we moves to SC and she went to Day Care. It was one of the best times of my life.

Part of our BSF lesson was on worship. So today as I was reading and studying it, I realized that when we eat God's way letting Him show us how the Lord wants us to eat that it is a form of worship. Quite a revelation to me.

I actually forgot to eat any snacks today because I was busy and didn't need them. Can't remember the last time I actually forgot to eat. God is really a Great God!!!

Have a great evening.

Ryanne
10-31-2009, 09:56 AM
I will paste it here along with a link to it.

http://www.joycemeyer.org/OurMinistries/EverydayAnswers/dailydevotionals/

Freely Eat

October 31

You may freely eat of every tree in the garden.
— Genesis 2:16

After God created Adam and Eve, He gave them some very simple dining instructions. Did He say, "You may freely eat of every Krispy Kreme on the street"? No. Did He say, "You may freely eat of every chip in the bag"? No. He did not tell them to freely eat fast food, frozen pizza, or even low-fat cookies.

God told Adam and Eve to eat from the garden, and we'd do well to stick to His advice. We've been inundated with an overwhelming amount of bad diet information from past decades which has clouded the very simple truths of healthy eating: eat the foods that come from God, in as close a state as possible to how God made them, and you can't go wrong. Only when we get corrupted by the foods made by men in laboratories and factories do we get in trouble.


From the book New Day, New You: 365 Devotions for Enjoying Everyday Life by Joyce Meyer. Copyright © 2007 by Joyce Meyer. Published by FaithWords. All rights reserved.

Ryanne
11-01-2009, 09:37 AM
A new beginning! I will let go of what lies behind and press on to what lies ahead! I'm going to HOPE!
I will be back on later to share some things that God has been showing me. I need to prepare it, but I just wanted to stop in and say HAPPY NOVEMBER! :D:thanks2:

Ryanne
11-01-2009, 04:17 PM
My mother recently passed away, and well, my sis put my dad in a nursing home. I have been mourning the loss of my mother, and there is nothing it seems that I can do to change my sis' mind about my dad. I would love to take care of him, but her mind is already made up and I guess what is done is done.
My dad doesn't really like it there, he wants to be in his own home, but it seems my sis has put his home up for sale, so there is not even an option for me to go to Wisconsin to take care of him there. So I have been sad, but am trusting God that everything will work out.
Well, on the same note, I have been overeating a little, not too much, but eating the wrong things for me, as I just have not felt like cooking, but as I was reading my Bible last night, something I came across interested me, so I thought I would share it.
This is from the Message Bible: 1Cor. 10:1-5: "Remember our history, friends, and be warned. All our ancestors were led by the providential Cloud and taken miraculously through the Sea. They went through the waters, in a baptism like ours, as Moses led them from enslaving death to salvation life. They all ate and drank identical food and drink, meals provided daily by God. They drank from the Rock, God's fountain for them that stayed with them wherever they were. And that Rock was Christ. But just experiencing God's wonder and grace didn't seem to mean much-most of them were defeated by temptation during the hard times in the desert, and God was not pleased."
I can certainly identify with being "defeated by temptation in the hard times" as I got to a point where I just didn't care and did what my flesh wanted. I bought chocolate chip cookies, I bought double stuff oreos and I bought cheetos and even white bread. I did eat some of it too, and not just one day.
I know this doesn't seem really wrong, but it is wrong for me, because I wasn't following the Holy Spirit while I was mourning, I was trying to make my flesh feel better.
God is so merciful, though, and I know He understands. I'm just saying that sometimes when we look back at those people, we wonder, "If God was with them a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night, and He was that visible to them then how could they be giving into the temptation of grumbling and complaining, and "defeated by temptation in the hard times"? Just the same way as I have the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD living inside of me, and I still grumble and complain and have bad days and sin. Thank God we are forgiven, but just as we are human, so were they.
I repented for this and asked the Holy Spirit to help me to want to be helped, and comfort me and help me to be obedient to be led by Him. I do care about my health, and I do want my body to be thin and fit. I realized that just because I am going through a hard time, does not mean that I don't still need to do what is right.
I am starting fresh today. Thank God His mercy is new every day, and I did not fail, I learned. :)
Well, I hope you all have a blessed Sunday and I hope that you all have a smile on your face today, for the joy of the Lord is our strength.
:)

pattygirl63
11-01-2009, 05:52 PM
Ryanne Such a sweet revelation the Lord gave you there. It is so wonderful how the Lord deals with us so sweetly.

Today at church the Pastor started teaching on Worship. Remember I mentioned how they had spoken of worship at BSF. At BSF, it was on the scripture when Jesus told the woman at the well that we would "worship God in spirit and in truth". I mentioned how the Lord showed me during my devotional time that when I eat the way the Lord wants me to eat that I am worshipping the Lord".
The Pastor used the story of Jehoshaphat in 2 Chronicles 20 when 3 countries were coming to battle with Israel. The Pastor said he was going to take a word from a to z to teach us how to worship God. He said first form of worship that Jehoshaphat did was that he "asked" God for help. 2nd He "believed" God could help him. 3rd He "confessed" all the things that God had done before for Israel and he "confessed" that he couldn't do anything without God's help. 4 He "depended" on God to help them. 5 He "expressed" in advance Thankfulness for what God would do to help them. 6 "Find" the Blessing in the bad. When they went to battle, God had caused the enemy to turn on each other and Jehoshapht and his men found nothing but dead bodies. However, in the midst of them they found the spoil that it took them 3 days to collect it all.

God told Jehoshaphat the the battles was not his, but God's. We have asked him to help us with our eating... that is worship. He has shown each of us what to do now we praise Him and thank Him and that is worship. Then when we eat we are worshipping Him. As we trust Him and depend on Him each day to lead us, that is worshipping Him. And in due season, we will see the total victory, but in the meantime, we must be careful "Find" the "Blessings" in the bad along the way.

Got to get ready to go to Bible Study.

Take the situation with your Dad and you sis and leave it with the Lord. Let Him have that battle as well.

What amazed me about the sermon this morning was the Pastor said, we try to fight these battles ourselves and then he has people say to him, "we've done everything we know to do so now we have to pray, will you pray with us?" He said he wants to say to them, "Shouldn't you have been praying from the first moment?" He said God is sitting there saying, "Finally, I've just been waiting for you to come to me and ask me for help." Isn't that awesome? But we have never been taught that taking the problem to Him is a form of Worship and therefore He wants us to ask. I've never been taught that. I think we think of it being bothersome to Him. Thinking of it as a form of Worship, put a whole new perspective on it.

I believe for one thing that I have to do is to be more thankful for what God is doing and going to do in my life spiritually as well as physically restoring this body. I think Believing is another one I have to work on because I know He can do it, I need to also "really" believe that he wants to do it.

Got to run. Have a Blessed evening.

Ryanne
11-02-2009, 12:23 PM
Have I told you lately just how AMAZING God is???????
I'm moving! A HOUSE!!! 4 bdr. 2 full baths, fire place, den, fenced in back yard...and I'm not telling you how much we will be paying, but GOD IS SOOOOOO GOOD! And it's in a nice suburb and it will be a better school district for my son.
I am soooo excited at all the good things God is doing in our lives!!!!
:carrot:

pattygirl63
11-02-2009, 01:54 PM
That is Great Ryanne!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! You are truly BLESSED!!!

Ryanne
11-03-2009, 07:49 AM
We are moving this weekend! Starting on Thursday! What a blessing too, because my husband's job changed his shift, so that leaves him with Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday off this week. So God even did that!
I am so excited!
I will be back on later to share some things about eating. I promise. LOL.
Have a good day!:hug:

Ryanne
11-03-2009, 05:59 PM
So here goes. Again, it is from Joyce Meyer's Daily Devotional: http://www.joycemeyer.org/OurMinistries/EverydayAnswers/dailydevotionals/

Grace Is not a License to Sin
November 3

Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound. . . . What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
— Romans 5:20, 6:15-16 (KJV)

When Paul started teaching the people of his day about the Law and grace—how the law produces sin, but where sin abounds, grace abounds even more—the early believers got a bit confused. They reasoned, "Well, then, if the more we sin, the more grace abounds, and if God takes such delight in giving us His grace, then we ought to sin as much as we can so we can get more grace" (See Romans 6:15).

So Paul had to write to straighten them out, saying, "God forbid! Don't you know that when you sin you become a servant to sin? How can you go on living in sin when you have been declared dead to sin?" (See Romans 6:16).

Grace is not just an excuse to stay where we are, claiming that we don't have to do anything about ourselves and our lives because we are not under the law but under grace. That is the mistake the early believers were making.

Yes, God's grace will keep us from condemnation even though we sin. God's grace does keep our names written in the Lamb's Book of Life even though we aren't perfect. God's grace does save us, declare us righteous in His sight, assure us His blessings and a home in Heaven, carry us through this life, and give us peace of mind and heart and many, many other wonderful things.

But God's grace does more than all of that, it also teaches us to live as God intends for us to live—which is in holiness. It not only gives us the power to live, but it is given to us to lift us out of sin.


From the book New Day, New You: 365 Devotions for Enjoying Everyday Life by Joyce Meyer. Copyright © 2007 by Joyce Meyer. Published by FaithWords. All rights reserved.

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Even though I have grace, I still have responsibility. Yes, God helps me, but there is also some "oomph" on my part. I have to decide early what I will and won't do, as I pray about my day. Some days, I might sense to eat when I am hungry that day, so I will say, "Today, I will only eat when I am hungry"...and ask the Holy Spirit to help me. Other days, I might sense that I should just eat two meals that day, so again, I will say to myself "Okay, only two meals today"...and ask God for help. Other days, I might sense a desire to fast, and say "okay, I am fasting today, only supper for me today"...and ask for help with that. So while I am asking God what He wants me to do, I "sense" that this is what I should do. Some days, I do good, some days I don't. Sometimes I might make provision to fulfill the lust of the flesh, and fulfill it. It is not MY DESIRE to fulfill the lust of the flesh, but let's be honest here... sometimes I do fulfill the lust of the flesh. Sigh... :^:
Thank God HE is our Helper and He does HELP us. Sometimes my soul, which is my mind, my will and my emotions, get the best of me. I don't stay there, because ultimately my will IS to be led by the Holy Spirit and nothing in the flesh decides to just lay down and die without putting up a fight. Did you ever notice that???? :dizzy:
Anyway, I am on the path and I try not to chase butterflies and wander off the path, but sometimes I do, and have to run and get back on the path, walking in line, my conduct controlled by the Holy Spirit.
I just want to let you know, I am not perfect, and there is no perfect one except Jesus. It's okay to have humanness, Jesus is made strong in our weakness.
BUT IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE for me to stay in sin. I might fall into temptation, but I need to remember to ask God to not let me be LED into temptation...I forget to do that sometimes, then when I am in the midst of a temptation, I am like "HELP, HELP"!!! I forget to avoid it by prayer. So, I thought this might help someone else.
I love you all and I hope you have a wonderful day! I need to get back to packing.
:grouphug:

Ryanne
11-04-2009, 05:11 PM
Husband ended up getting today off with pay, so we are planning to have everything done today. Our internet won't be on for a couple of days at the new place, so you all hang tight and keep the faith!:wave:

Ryanne
11-06-2009, 07:11 AM
Okay, so we got all moved. I only have a few electronic things left to unpack and I am completely done. Have the decorating done. I still need a bed for me and husband and a toy box for the little boy, but other than that, we are done and I am so happy. I am most pleased that we have a washer and dryer, too! Thank God for that.
I have been eating good, and the scale is showing it.
I haven't been walking, but with all the packing, unpacking, etc... I sure have put in a lot of exercise hrs...and body feels it!
God is soooo good! Well, it is very early, but too excited to start my day to sleep any more, so I guess I will get my shower in and go shopping. I have the Dish installation today, and I don't know what time they are coming, exactly.
Have a wonderful day, all!
Trish, I hope you are doing well. Has anyone heard from Bootsie at all?

pattygirl63
11-06-2009, 04:33 PM
Ryanne Glad you are moved in and things are going so well. I am doing fine. Have not heard from Bootsie. Hope she is doing well. Look forward to hearing from you.

Ryanne
11-13-2009, 10:05 AM
I have been soooo sick. I still am, but getting over it. I didn't sleep too well last night.
Anyway, just wanted to check in and say "Hi". I'm mapping out a new walking route for myself. There is a walking trail just behind us, but I am trying to find one I like better or just make my own route.
Anyway, you all have a nice day. I'm still hanging in there on the eating. Sometimes I do good, sometimes not so much, but keeping on keeping on.;)

Ryanne
12-10-2009, 05:40 PM
Well, a very lot has happened since I was on here. I have been awol for a while. I contracted the Swine Flu and it took me a while to get over it. Thank God I did get over it, a lot of people died from it here in Oklahoma. I am just now getting to the point I am not tired all the time. I still rest frequently, but am blessed.
We got all moved, and we found out today that my son's wife is pregnant, and I am going to be a grandma again! I am excited for them, they have been trying for a while, and were very discouraged. My son quit his job on got on where my husband works. He starts in January. My husband got a promotion and a raise and a schedule change, so that worked out, and we now have full custody of our son. He is doing very well.
My pastor died a couple of weeks ago, so we are in the process of finding another place to worship.
A lot of changes these past few months, but God is in control and has given us a lot of good along with all the bad things that have happened.
I hope you all are doing well. :ginger:

Bootsie
01-03-2010, 12:39 PM
Girls I am so glad to see you still going at it! My computer and I both got a virus and we were both down and out for a good while but we are both back and so happy to see y'all strong as ever! Are you girls ready to get with it and make the biggest change for the better this year? I just feel God has a lot of good blessings headed our way. I walked with Leslie 4 miles this morning, did the yoga warm up but that yoga, I just gonna have to get in better shape for it! How is your eating going and your exercise plans?

editor
10-01-2010, 09:05 AM
Born again and wanting to shout it from the rooftops. Count me in as a regular here.

Onederchic
10-16-2010, 12:05 AM
Born again and wanting to shout it from the rooftops. Count me in as a regular here.

:woohoo: