LA Weight Loss - Beck Diet For Life/Solution – September 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach

09-01-2009, 06:01 AM
Welcome to the discussion group, support group, diet coach group, diet buddy group relating to the two books by Dr. Judith S. Beck:The Complete Beck Diet for Life ( the first bookThe Beck DIET solution: train your brain to think like a thin person. (

The Beck Diet Solution is a psychological program, not a food plan. It provides a step-by-step program to learn specific techniques to stay on our diet, lose weight, and maintain our weight loss for life. The program is based on Dr. Beck's clinical research in Cognitive Therapy (CT).

The Complete Beck Diet for Life expands the earlier work and includes a food plan with suggested menus. From the cover:With The Complete Beck Diet for Life you'll discover the 5 stages of successful deiting and maintenance. You'll learn how to motivate yourself, give yourself credit for every change you make, create time and energy for dieting, and handle hunger and cravings. Dr. Beck easues you into changing one step at a time. You'll master one task before monving on to the next. And you'll learn tehcniques to deal with challenging situations, such as sticking with ou plan at celebrations and dealing with "food pushers." With Dr. Beck's skills, you'll acheive a lifetime of healthful eating and lifelong motivation.

This is a place to discuss the Beck strategies and our daily efforts, to receive and provide support, and, for some of us, is where we serve as on-line diet buddy (coach) to each other.

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09-01-2009, 06:59 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Squeezed in my gym even though there really wasn't time; CREDIT moi. Was out until after dark to watch the Nighthawks migrating past on their way to South America for the winter. It was a perfect night, cool with an awesome sunset. More of my time could be devoted to watching sunrises and sunsets.

Had to put on a warm shirt to eat dinner - it's getting chilly around here - despite it being gazpacho which is DW's hot weather specialty. But I ate joyfully and on plan; CREDIT moi.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Your menu has me drooling. Yay for feeding eggplant and spinach to the unsuspecting, LOL. And thanks for the reminder, "the other stuff probably never goes away completely, and that’s okay." Yep, it's OK, since we are learning strategies to deal with the silly thinking.

Neat to think that #2 is differentiating; freighting to think that food engineers tinkering their little formulas could contribute to that. We know so little about the deciding process. I salute your efforts for clean eating while decisions of consequence are being made.

onebyone - Yuck for the name "Piglickers" and Double Yuck for the thought of eating one. My DW laughed at my description and immediately ticked off the four tastes involved - satisfies everything. Good luck getting ready for school.

Anne (wndranne) - Here's to "dumb luck." The older I get the more I'm willing to believe that most of life's good decisions have more dumb luck than calculated brilliance. Kudos for working your techniques. Does your DD start school this fall?

Erika (eusebius) - Yay for a good vacation in New Brunswick. Glad to hear that Hurricane Bill was only drizzable (my new word, a gift from Joy (gardenerjoy), although not know to be Scrabblable.) Presume that you missed Tropical Storm Danny since you didn't mention it. Welcome back.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for planning one piece of fudge and enjoying it. And Kudos again for putting the remainder in the freezer for DH. Maybe that's where the remaining half of the chip should have gone, LOL - I've never heard of anyone eating them from the freezer.

Kara (Walking Princess) - It took me forever to get over my habit of licking every serving spoon that I used - forever. But I'm getting there and glad of it. It helps to keep the brain in the place where I'm not a garbage can for any food that's visible. Kudos for OP and OP for the day.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Kudos for using your mix and match plan to allow a comfortable spontaneous lunch. Yep, I love that feeling of sticking to my plan. And thanks for the reminder, "it isn't the thoughts that make us fat." No need to be afraid of the silly thoughts when I have the tools to stand them down.

Readers - Looking Forward

And, of course, you'll be able to enjoy other benefits, too.

• You'll be thinner!
• You'll feel better about yourself.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 47.

09-01-2009, 07:52 AM
Morning Coaches -

September already? Eek! Thank goodness Labour Day is late this year ... gives some time to prep DD for Grade 1 (!)

Back on track now. OP with food and exercise yesterday, went shopping for WW points-friendly food. Made an emotional eating response card as per Day 33. We're off and running. Also unpacked, which felt good.

onebyone - Piglickers? Ewww! Sounds like a chaser for deep fried mars bars (I heard rumours about them once on a trip to Scotland).

wndranne - Glad you're feeling better and were able to keep weight gain to a minimum!

kuhljeanie - OMG, I want to come to your house for dinner!! I love borscht, eggplant, and spinach. Salmon is a nice bonus as well.

gardenerjoy - Great job sticking to salad and a preordained number of fries!! Awesome.

Nuxmaga - I am amazed that a bag of chips lasted 2 days. I thought that was physically impossible. Well done!

Kara - Congrats for an OP day! :carrot:

Bill - Kudos for OP eating and exercise! We ended up driving quite close to you on Saturday (Portsmouth NH) on our way from Freeport to KIngston ON. (I was trying to create a route which would use mostly interstate highways). That was where Danny really got us ... pretty heavy rain, anyway. I wasn't on the beach so I didn't really care, but DH was driving ... he wasn't impressed, LOL. Love "drizzable" ... must work that into the vocab.

Here's to a great new month, yeti matadors!

09-01-2009, 08:53 AM
You may remember that I re-jiggered my exercise routine when I got back from vacation. I’ve been feeling more and more tiredness since then – especially after upper body workouts. Both Saturday and Sunday I napped 3+ hours in addition to 7+ hours at night. Sunday I was very ache-y and decided to take a day off of exercise, except to help DH with the dock, where possible. He worked like a dawg, by himself, while I slept. :(

When I got up from my nap it was clear that DH had gotten himself into a pickle. The dock was upside down in the water and he was trying to flip it over. I helped him until I realized I was well beyond my abilities in terms of strength, and, I was just too short to be of much help. After winching, leveraging with long boards, etc. our very tall neighbor offered to help. In a few minutes they had it flipped. A lesson has been learned, make sure the dock goes in the water right-side-up! DH is ready to put the floats on the second half of it, so we’ll see if that one goes any better.

I pulled muscles in both shoulders while helping DH with the dock. So I’m taking a break from all exercise except walking until I feel back to full strength. Then I’ll start things up again and decide whether I need to change my exercise plans fundamentally, or if taking the break was enough…

Yesterday I walked 45 minutes and was op foodwise until dinner. I was feeling frustrated about exercise and just did what I felt like. I haven’t figured out how many calories I went over, but I’m sure I did. Today will be different – I will be SO on plan…

WI-up 0.7 lbs. (since Saturday) Did make a plan, read my cards. Food – off-plan, Exercise – op (45m). Credit moi!

No personals yet – I’ll try to get caught up over the next couple of days. For now :wave:

09-01-2009, 09:31 AM
Good Morning Coaches

Between writing my post here yesterday telling you I was going in to the school and walking up the stairs from the basement, I decided not to go. I didn't get to the school yesterday and it turned out to be the right thing to do as I fielded several important phone calls from my sister re: my mother's new space in the senior's care facility, and figuring out what to do with her car and where to leave it and getting my sister a rental car and I was just glad I was home to talk her down! I make it sound more dramatic than it really was but yesterday they signed a lease for a bright sunny one bedroom with balcony apt (? or is it a unit?) where all her meals are included and her meds are looked after/delivered. It's the best of all worlds I think. It's the opposite end of the city from me but several buses go that way so it's not too bad. And my mother's neighbours have expressed interest in her house as have second cousins so it may be fairly easy to sell her home--easier than we thought--maybe. My mother is in good spirits about it. Apparently she whispered to my sister that she "liked it" when they walked in the building. My sister negotiated with management and got $500/month off of the rent. THIS is the indomitable will of my Florida sister...and then she lectured THEM about forcing HER to have to get so hard-nosed about it. "Why did you make that so hard? If you were willing to negotiate you shouldn't have made it so difficult?" She actually said that to the woman after she got them to agree and the papers were signed. My sister is fascinating.

So now I really am off to school. We'll see what happened yesterday in there. I have inventory ahead of me--not as bad as you think--could be much much worse in fact. Better go...

Have a good Tuesday... it's movie day around here (Inglorious Basterds-DH's choice this week)... :wave:

09-01-2009, 11:06 AM
Coaches/Buddies. My son and I are home sick today. Different illnesses. The way things are going, we'll probably swap viruses and get another day or so. I'm hauling him into the pediatrician later.

He just went to sleep so I need to get a shower now, while the gettin' is good.

Happy September everyone!


09-01-2009, 05:14 PM
just a flyby…overdid it last night at the ballgame on french fries. you’d think by this point i would know not to let myself get too hungry, but you’d be wrong. the tiredness continues and will probably be an issue for the next few weeks. it’s funny though – it’s not the kind of tiredness that makes me want to eat. it’s more mind-numbing than that. i find myself eating (mostly) on plan even when i’m not hungry, so will focus on that for the next little while.

just found out my client contract has to be cut short through no fault of my own, and the folks i report to aren’t happy about it – but there you go. argh. potentially back on the bench. not good. i’m not going to stress about it…i just can’t. life is crazy sometimes, huh?

Kim in NH
09-01-2009, 07:45 PM
Thanks all for the recipe storage ideas. You’d think by my age I’d have a system for the basics but nothing has worked well and am so more into cooking these days…

Because my books came today this will be a quick one. I almost skipped up the driveway - I love getting a package in the mail, but THIS one is special. Need to get my grocery list made for tomorrow and still have some time to read a bit of the book. Not sure when my Day 1 will be – probably Thursday. Then I can officially be part of the gang. :book2:

Oh, I see that I need 3 x 5 cards, so will get those. Can't wait to write something on them.


twilit tera
09-01-2009, 09:14 PM
hel-LOOO, Becksters! Hi, new(ish) folks! Been absent a long while but I thought I'd better give y'all an update, since the last time I was here I was under a lot of strain.

Been a roller-coaster summer. I've gained 10 pounds in 2 months. Oh, well. Gonna get WAY better from here.

I have ceased my resistance to Facebook. Those of you who'd like to get to know me better there, please PM me and I'll give you my profile URL so you can find me. :D

Mom's doing a lot better. Things were up and down for a while (rollercoasterlike) while they were balancing on the knife's edge between succumbing to an infection and rejecting her liver. The infection is no longer an issue, so her anti-rejection meds are now higher, and her new liver is getting a long much better. (She named it Greg.) She no longer needs 24/7 care, and is happily more independent, hoping to return to work soon.

Emotionally, I'm in a much better place. Being back in control of my environment and schedule really helps. No improvement on my hip pain, but I do have more information. I finally got that referral for MRI and orthopedic specialist, who looked at the films and said that the problem wasn't with my hip, but my spine. He gave me a referral to a spine surgeon, and my appointment with him is in a couple of weeks. (he also gave me actual pain medication - the first physician since the 10 pills I got from Primacare back in May to do so).

It's a new semester, again with a fully online class schedule, including Physical Education. PE has changed a lot since I was in high school. A lot of the exercises they were making us do daily 20 years ago are now on the contraindicated exercise list. :p I knew I had a good reason for hating PE back then. My curriculum includes diet analysis, strength training, flexibility, and aerobics and I get to choose the exercises and the schedule (with certain minimum qualifications). I expect to do well, lose lots of weight, and hopefully develop the core strength that will reduce my pain or eliminate future back problems.

I'll check back in from time to time, but not so regularly as I've done in the past. One of the moves I'm making is to decompartmentalize myself. I have friends and family on FB, so I'm sharing a lot regarding my weight management efforts there as well as other things like school and health. I've also started a new video blog (thanks to my new netbook computer!) The URL for that is http://dafitchick/ I fully intend to add a post soon explaining the inspiration for the URL and the title "Ho-humming Along". I owe so much to this forum, and to you guys!

onebyone: So glad to hear that you are in the loop regarding your mother's living arrangements and that she's in such a great place. It sounds like things have come a long way in a couple of months! :D


09-01-2009, 10:51 PM
I'm borrowing ChinaMaine's reporting format.

May I just say that errands were a lot more fun when they included foraging for treats? Oh well. I keep reminding myself that, in fact, I don't deserve a treat for running errands. However, I do deserve a strong, healthy, well-nourished body for the rest of my life and the elimination of treat-foraging behavior is an important strategy in achieving that.

WI: +0.15kgs, Exercise: 42/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

Nuxmaga: good job on enjoying planned fudge and for making a plan to get it out of the house

Walking Princess: Yay for doing so well yesterday! At least you became aware of the licked spoon, so it will be easier next time!

BillBlueEyes: taking time to watch the nighthawk migration sounds like a great way to savor life!

eusebius: Oh, grade 1! What an exciting time! And congratulations for getting back on track, including the appropriate shopping.

ChinaMaine: so sorry about the exercise set-backs and injuries. 45 minutes of walking is nothing to sneeze at, of course. I'm terrified of strenght training since I've injured myself every time I tried, starting at age 18 and most recently about ten years ago. But I do want to get stronger and get some of the metabolism benefits. I'm starting with a video I can watch instantly for free from my Netflix account. It's called 10 minute solution: Target Toning for Beginners. There are 5 10-minute workouts each targeting a different part of the body. The idea for a rank beginner like me is to do one 10-minute workout a day. It may be way too easy for you, but maybe it, or something like it, could be part of a recovery regimen when you're ready.

onebyone: Sounds like some good progress for your mother. Let us know how you like the movie. It's not currently on my list, but I'm open to possibilities. I think I'm going to see Julie & Julia tomorrow to reward myself for getting the first six pounds off.

wndranne: hope you and your son feel better soon.

kuhljeanie: sorry about the business troubles. Eating on plan sounds like a good approach when the mind is numb, anyway. I'll have to remember that as we move into my double-whammy allergy time -- mold and ragweed.

Kim in NH: the book arrived! How exciting! Can't wait to hear how you're doing with it.

twilit tera: nice to meet you!

Walking Princess
09-02-2009, 01:34 AM

I ate op today. It was 104 degrees today so I walked for 15 minutes on my breaks and then did an additional 5 minutes later on. It was just too dang hot to do anymore but at least I did that! So I read my cards all day and made sure I told myself - NO eating any little stuff and not realize it. Pay attention Kara! I did well until I was leaving a playdate with my little guy. I was standing on the porch talking to my friend as I was rounding up my little man. He handed me his strawberry fruit bar to hold while he went to load his bike in the car. So there I am talking and what do I do?? I take a bite for no reason. As soon as it's in my mouth, I'm like "what the heck did I just do?" I didn't even realize I had taken a bite until I'm chewing. Now where did I get this habit the last couple days? I was so mad! :mad: Why can't I seem to pay attention to what I'm doing? I tried so hard all day to pay attention and then I do that. I realize it's probably only 25 calories tops and I'm being over generous but that's not the point. It's the unplanned eating that Beck tells us not to do. Frustrating!

Bill - great job for making the time to get your exercise in despite your tight schedule! Chilly out where you are at night? Can I stop by your place for a few days? It's 9:27pm right now and it's still 81 here. Yikes! I miss my cool nights!

Erika - great job being on plan today! Sounds like you accomplished everythign you needed to :-)

ChinaMaine - ouch! Sorry to hear you hurt your back. Please get lots of rest and don't strain yourself anymore (sorry Dr. Mom here, lol)

OnebyOne - wow your sister is amazing! I'll have to remember to bring her when we buy our next car! lol :D

Anne - hope you and your son feel better soon

Jeannie - no wonder you are munching - sounds like you've got a lot of stuff going on. I hope they find some way to be able to keep you on contract. Try not to stress though, things will work out some how some way

Kim - YEA!!!! Your books are here!!! So exciting!! Enjoy :-)

Twilit Tera - very nice to meet you! I wish you much success with your goals and look forward to seeing you online here

GardnerJoy - you are doing so great with keeping positive and focused. Great job!

Good night

09-02-2009, 06:47 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Continue to work on portion sizes. For dinner, DW served two ears of corn so I stashed one for work lunches; CREDIT moi. For lunch I had the second meal from my leftovers from the restaurant Sunday night; CREDIT moi. Naturally I expect immediate rewards from the scale for each 100 calories trimmed, LOL, but I'll get over that. The scale does it's normal thing after a restaurant meal - a bow wave of several pounds for several days. At least I now expect it.

Forgot to do the errand that I had planned for my walk after work, so I liked the idea of adding a ten minute walk each way after dinner. It was kinda nice walking after dark. I suppose if I were more spiritually advanced I'd celebrate that the store was closed when I got there since that means that I can do that walk again.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Bummer about your contract, but BIG Kudos for choosing not to stress about it while thousands of little decisions are being made.

onebyone - Just wonderful that your mother is so quickly established and even admitted that she "liked it." Congrats on your intuition that had you at home to take your sister's calls. Good luck with inventory.

Anne (wndranne) - Dual Ouches for dual viruses. You should expect everyone to stare at you as if you have the H1N1 flu - perhaps awkwardly refusing to shake your hand. Sending virtual chicken soup and a lollipop.

Tera (twilit tera) - Great news that your mother and Greg are recovering well. Particularly good to hear your "Emotionally, I'm in a much better place." Good luck on your new semester. Alas, I'm a holdout on Facebook - apparently the last one in North America - so can't follow you there.

Congrats on making a few more steps forward in your hip saga. Hope this spine diversion proves the key to finding a solution.

ChinaMaine - Yay for "SO on plan" particularly since Tera (twilit tera) dropped in to see that her phrase lives on. Ouch for the pulled muscles and the saga of flipping the dock and Kudos for the long walk. Sending supportive thoughts for returning to full strength.

Erika (eusebius) - Ah, the wonders of first grade with its first day of comparing who else has missing teeth, LOL. Portsmouth NH is just minutes away from Plum Island MA which is on everyone's list of best birding spots in the US - I could have introduced you to good MA coastal birding.

Kara (Walking Princess) - Ouch for the mindless nibble from your little guy's fruit bar. It's just amazing to become aware of our nibbling. I do recall that both of my kids would detect a missing nibble and respond dramatically although that never seemed to stop me. Kudos for walking in 105 degrees - that's hot in my book. Yep, the cool crisp evenings of New England fall are a joy.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - LOL at your foraging for treats while on errands - did I ever do that big time. I'm gonna steal your affirmation, "I do deserve a strong, healthy, well-nourished body for the rest of my life and the elimination of treat-foraging behavior is an important strategy in achieving that."

Kim (Kim in NH) - Yay for getting your Beck books. I also just love getting a package. Perhaps that partially explains Amazon's success. There's some good reading in Beck before Day 1. Enjoy.

Readers - Looking Forward

And, of course, you'll be able to enjoy other benefits, too.

. . .
• You'll be more confident.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 47.

09-02-2009, 07:56 AM
Morning Coaches -

Day 2 OP with eating and exercise. It was definitely not as easy as the first day. Credit moi for switching dinner plans when I found out that DH's version of sloppy joes had twice as much (fattier) meat as the WW version - ate a 6-point salmon dinner from the freezer instead. Credit for not ordering dessert at the lovely café where I met a friend in the afternoon.

And credit for not binging even though I was quite stressed out as I attempted to organize my life after being on holiday. The yeti very nearly got me, but I fought it off. I think it will be easier to stay in the moment today.

ChinaMaine - I think "make sure the dock goes in the water right side up" is like a proverb to live by :lol: I hope your shoulders are feeling better soon.

onebyone- Good to hear that your mother is in a good place both literally and figuratively. Wow, your sister sounds like a real character. I didn't know it was possible to negotiate stuff like that. What did you think of the Tarantino flick?

wndranne - Hope you feel better today.

kuhljeanie - credit for recognizing the tiredness factor. Indeed life is crazy and I hope the shorter contract doesn't play too much havoc with your work life.

Kim - Yay for your books arriving! Can't wait to hear what you think.

Tera - How good to hear from you! Great that your mom is doing better and that you are feeling emotionally stronger. Thanks for sharing your blog with us - I'll add it to my bloglines so I can keep up!

gardenerjoy - Here's to "the elimination of treat-foraging behaviour"! Great job staying OP on food & exercise!!

Kara - Great job staying OP and walking despite the heat. Your unplanned eating has improved so much since you started Beck so big credit for that despite the bite of fruit bar!

Bill - Great work on portion sizes and extra walking! I hope one day I can actually stop in to Plum Island and get some birding tips. Believe it or not dd hasn't yet lost a tooth - but she was 10 months old before she got one, so I think she's just a late bloomer in that department.

COFFEE TIME!! :coffee: Happy Wednesday all!


09-02-2009, 09:46 AM
Was more tired yesterday than Monday. :shrug: I was so frustrated that at one point I burst into tears. I did manage to walk 1 mile. Credit! I was op food-wise although my strengthened giving-in-muscle was whispering sweet, sabotaging thoughts in my ear. I pulled out ‘no choice’ and sailed on by. Credit moi!

Monday I finished the novel I started in South Dakota, and I decided to start an old favorite rather than a new novel. I tried Pride and Prejudice, but since I can finish sentences from memory, it wasn’t as fun as I’d hoped it would be. So last night I pulled out To Kill a Mockingbird while DH practiced piano. It was exactly what the doctor ordered, and put me in a great mood.

WI-down 0.7 lbs. Did make a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – off-plan (20m).

Still no personals yet – but I can’t wait to get to them! :wave:

09-02-2009, 10:40 AM
Coaches/Buddies Once again, I grow weary of my own nonsense. So, I read my cards today, the ARC, the "big" RCs, and my Memory Cards. I have a plan, lunch is packed. No exercise today with the recent sickness and still sore from last week's bike crash, but that's OK. Doing what I can.

Waiting on the back-up care nanny to come to watch my son, and then I'm off to work.

I seem to have given up on personals for the time being. Sorry. As always, I'm grateful you all are here. You inspire me.


09-02-2009, 11:02 AM
Good Morning :sunny:

Hi Everybody!! :wave:

an 8lb gain over the summer....I can deal with that.

I signed up with weight watchers yesterday, did heaps and heaps of grocery shopping. Didnt get any cooking done but that is on the agenda for today.

Dusted off my gym membership and that is planned for today.

Food is planned and packed!

Stress still really hasnt been dealt with yet. I got thru the summer, and right now we are on a bit of a slow down until the college kids realize they need frat tees in 3 days :dizzy: Usually we are quiet around here in september until a week after labour day. Ive been taking quite a bit of time off work to get things done around the house. Trying to get my home life a bit more organized. Slow going....but its going.

Stress.........need to deal with it better or go bonkers!

We have also finally found someone (who is on the ball and on time!) to remodel our bathroom. That starts in about 2 weeks. We started looking for heating and cooling ppl back in July....its now September and we still havent been able to find someone who will get back to us. I really dont know what is up with these companies. Its almost as if Im not going to spend 10's of thousands of dollars on a new system, they arent interested. I just need what I have FIXED!! Geez!

I should be back into personals within the next couple days once I get caught up with reading.

09-02-2009, 02:01 PM
hi everyone,

trying to find the energy to post. just sitting at my desk is tiring! acknowledging that it’s due, at least in part, to boredom. not enough to do. my last day here is sept 11 and so am winding down from little to none. i’m walking the parking lot twice a day, but that’s like a single hour out of 9. cripes. i just read “johnny bunko” while eating my lunch (i know…focus on the food…i just feel less self-conscious reading with a bowl of soup at my desk than not, since it implies a lunch break as opposed to just sitting and reading when i should be working. at, something?) would be nice if they find another engagement for me between now and then, or between then and the 8 weeks that they appear to give people on the bench before they’re laid off. which wouldn’t be that big of a deal, unless the house is still on the market in three months. lots of possibilities for things to go all kinds of ways and i could easily make myself crazy thinking about it. which is even less productive than pretending to work. so instead, i just keep telling myself that everything really does work out the way it’s supposed to. wouldn’t it be a **** of thing to get laid off twice, by the same company, in the same year? or not. have no idea at this point. between that, the house, the pregnancy – i can’t let myself think too much about anything because right now it’ll just keep me from sleeping. and i am TIRED.

robin, i feel you, girlfriend! if you stumble across a way to deal with stress, can you shout out? anne, can you refresh my memory on the big RCs? i could use a little boost myself. china, it’s just so absolutely fabulous that you use novels (and good ones, too) the way i used fried chicken and cookies. NICE. erika, lovely way to string two days together, even when it’s not easy! lovely café desserts can sing a mean siren song…muy strengthening to resist the call. bill, inspiring work with portions! i still somehow feel that if i restrict my portions i’m somehow denying myself what i really need. like i’m not already drowning in a sea of calories. hm. hi kara! boy are you hard on yourself! you’ve made so many changes in your approach to food. i’m not saying stop being aware, but it sounds like you’re yelling at yourself for not being perfect. you’re allowed to make mistakes! :) gardnerjoy, if you figure out a non-caloric way to make errands more fun, can you share? i like being able to check things off my to do list – it’s just no fun when the list is so friggin’ long, know what i mean? welcome back tera! feels like it’s been forever! so glad to hear you’re making progress on the medical front, and that things have stabilized a bit with your mom. happy reading kim!!!

09-02-2009, 07:48 PM
Hi, all,

Glad to see old friends checking in and updating and seeing such commitment from the new Beckie coaches/buddies.

ChinaMaine, we are such kindred spirits! Would so much rather read a good "old favorite" book than see the newest buzz movie. Good books need reading over and over again; I whiz through the great ones way too fast to savor the art, must go back over again to appreciate fully. The one author I forgot to ask if you have read is Frank Herbert. He is definitely in my top five of all time ..and the top for SciFi..never took water for granted, ever, ever, after reading Dune 30 years ago.

Kuhljeanie, wow. So many changes. I have to say once again I am amazed at your resilience and your attitude. That can only come from a lot of self confidence.

Onebyone, thanks for sharing the story of your sister negotiating. I don't know why I enjoyed it so, but I did. I just really got a kick out of it. Glad your mom is OK with things, too; that makes a world of difference for everyone,

Regarding the stress conversation: saw Dr. Oz on TV yesterday morning.....He was talking about alternative/eastern medicine in addition to western medical practices. He said if he had hypertension, the first thing he would do is learn to meditate. He spoke of depression treatment and the fact that only about 30% of patients get better from depression medication alone. The rest require psychotherapy to get better, and we know the #1 most effective treatment is fact, that is why Dr. Judith's father Aaron Beck developed treat depression.

I am going to start practicing what I preach going to find a decent yoga class...not easy to do in this neck of the woods, believe me. Much easier to find an authentic sauna and a lake or a big snow bank to roll in afterward. That is the standard stress relief around here.

So here is my confession, coaches...went to a big bd party bash last night...great band, great buffet.....and my friend was, yup, you guessed it.........drank beer, no restraint with fattening pot luck, none. ..and didn't enjoy the food that much..I caught myself and just ditched the plate.....don't know what I was thinking; I never eat like that when there is a chance to dance. The good news is an acceptable dance partner found me, was a pretty good fit for me ( didn't try to do a bunch of stupid stuff and pretty much let me dance the way I want to, which is to enjoy the music, not try to impress people) and so I got to dance as much as I wanted...which is every dance...NO CHOICE there! Got a chance to wear my $3.50 red dress..fitted, straight, marked $6.99 at Goodwill, but it was Monday, so half price. Love it! The expensive one I ordered from Boston Proper looked terrible on me..without implants and Victoria's Secret, it just sorta "fell flat." Just didn't look the way it did on that model.

The really good news is that today I got 2 pairs of pants, two blouses and a pair of sandals for 96 bucks! The pants are size 6, but the one pair was actually a bit loose...I actually went and looked to see if there was a 4 on the rack; there was not, and it may not have fit, but that would have really been a kick. And I know, I know, vanity sizing. True, true, but great fun nonetheless. Came home and threw some of my fat clothes in a bag for Goodwill; am not gonna gain this weight back. Am back on track today. I still think the most effective tool of all is writing everything down. I really do. The other part of what works for me, especially now with these last stubborn pounds is to let myself be hungry for a while before I eat. I know that goes against conventional wisdom, but it is what I need to do.

09-02-2009, 11:45 PM
Walked at the mall before my reward movie. The aroma of the orange chicken wafting from the food court was more enticing than I expected. It's a good thing that Dr. Kessler talked about orange chicken in The End of Overeating. His description was something like sugar on fat on salt on fat. Thinking of that kept me on plan.

I highly recommend Julia & Julia -- the topics explored are food and love, two of my favorite things!

WI: -0.05kgs, Exercise: +42, 84/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

Walking Princess: short walks sounds like a very intelligent strategy with that much heat.

BillBlueEyes: love your spiritually advanced view! Even if it didn't really happen that way.

eusebius: hope the yeti stayed away today!

ChinaMaine: huge credit for 'no choice' used at the appropriate moment. Your description of reading a novel for a mood-booster made my little librarian heart go pitter-pat.

wndranne: yay for all your efforts to get back on plan.

kuhljeanie: you have a lot going on! Be kind and patient with yourself!

maryblu: yay for all the wonderful clothes in new sizes!

09-02-2009, 11:48 PM
Hi All,
8900+ steps, yay! Missing my Zumba--have to wait until next Wednesday when it starts again. Tracked food, credit. Resisted buying caramel corn at the check out counter--reminded myself that it's there to encourage impulse purchases, and if I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't want it. Ate a lot of yummy stuff today and still came in under my calories! :)

maryblu--I hope you find a yoga class. Credit for planning to find one.

kuhljeanie--Credit for walking the parking lot, even though you are tired.

RobinW--Welcome back! Yay for planning your food and exercise. Sorry to hear about the stress.

wndranne--credit for "doing what you can."

ChinaMaine--Credit for using "no choice" and finding yourself a good book to read.

eusebius--Kudos for saying no to dessert. That's a hard one for me.

Bill--credit for your "spiritual advancement" ;) Nice idea to walk to the store, even though it was closed.

WalkingPrincess--104 degrees and you walked! Wow! I'd melt. Credit for becoming aware of unplanned eating. You could think of it this way: Why wouldn't you take a bite? You just started this practice of Beck skills, and the old pathways are well worn. Fussing at yourself won't help you learn the skills. Believe me, I know about self criticism. . .You noticed your eating--that's a victory!

gardenerjoy--Oh man, that's going to be part of my vocabulary now, "Foraging for treats"--that describes my mentality about errands exactly! In fact, for awhile I was fearful of doing any errands at all because of what I might forage for, and how much damage it would do!

Tera--Welcome back!

09-03-2009, 07:18 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Portion sizes continued: The farmer's market was selling a plate of grilled veggies for $5 - bargain of the year. I arrived with a thermos bag and a Glad container since I knew it was gonna happen, CREDIT moi for being that organized. Did gym, CREDIT moi, and did my errand of the closed store from the previous day all on the same excursion.

Then went home and had the grilled veggies over broccoli slaw. Absolutely to die for. Kicking myself that I didn't buy several batches. And the big deal is that I only served myself half, I've already loaded the remainder in the covered Pyrex dish for lunch today. So CREDIT moi for another experiment in portion control.

maryblu - Yay for the $3.50 red dress - I really like that. It does create the tension that to have it dry cleaned will cost more than the dress. Yay for all that dancing even if Oh Well for the buffet.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch that "TIRED" continues, but Kudos for working to contain the stress. Good call that you continue to maintain your professional appearance - ya never know what little thing will trigger a good impression that causes your contract to be extended rather than some elses. Sending supportive thoughts to the great divider.

Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for the full start into September: WW, gym, heaps of good food. Sending supportive thoughts for the stress; I, too, would like your solution when you find one. Know the frustration with the HVAC guys for your heating system. I'm trying to fix my own since the last two guys I've had out told me I had to have a new boiler because they don't know this brand. Yay for a remodeled bathroom. Ya picked your colors and everything already?

Anne (wndranne) - Glad that you've recovered enough to leave the house.

ChinaMaine - Yay for reading To Kill a Mockingbird - I loved that book, still have my copy from the sixties. That book appeared on my Amazon recommendation list one day after I had looked over some birding guides - an insight into the wisdom and folly of their recommendations, LOL. And Kudos for slapping your giving-in-muscle upside the head with a NO CHOICE.

Erika (eusebius) - Kudos for fighting off the Yeti - that getting organized after vacation challenges me big time. I've still got stacks to put away from my June trip, LOL. And yep, Kudos for that quick change in dinner plans.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Ouch that you have to wait for your gym to become Zumbable. Kudos for passing up the caramel corn.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Kudos for pulling up Kessler to counter the smell of orange chicken - that description certainly makes me want to avoid it now. I really enjoyed Julie and Julia also. It's been fun talking about the movie because people bring up their encounters with Julia Child around town. She was hard to miss because of her height, especially in the theater, LOL.

Readers - Looking Forward

And, of course, you'll be able to enjoy other benefits, too.

. . .
• You'll have more energy.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 47.

09-03-2009, 08:04 AM
Morning Coaches -

Day 3 OP, somewhat easier this time as I made dinner. Being back in the home routine is tiring me out somewhat - ended up needing a nap yesterday afternoon. Credit for doing that instead of eating. Also credit for walking past all the snacks in the drugstore and buying a G2 (sugar-free gatorade) instead.

Saw my doctor yesterday. Waited 45 minutes for him to tell me that my medications were OK as is and no, he hadn't made that referral he said he'd make a month ago. Ah the Canadian health care system. I am still grateful for it, though.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for staying on plan! I hope more energy is coming your way today :hug:

wndranne - LOL "I grow weary of my own nonsense" - I think I might steal that for my gravestone! big credit to you for recognizing your limitations while sick and being kind to yourself.

Robin - Awesome to have you back. Great to see your lovely face in your avatar. You're stunning!

kuhljeanie - I know what you mean about being tired when you're bored. I hope things improve with your work situation. Hang in there ...

maryblu - Nice job ditching your plate at the party. I bet you looked fab in that red dress. Are you really only 3 pounds from goal? That's amazing! If you can't find a yoga class I can recommend some excellent videos - just let me know.

gardenerjoy - Wow, great description of orange chicken. I really do have to read that book (after the 50 that are already on my reading list, LOL). Great job staying OP once again!

Nuxmaga - Great job sticking to your plan and steering clear of the caramel corn! Are there Zumba DVDs you could use in the non-Zumbable off-season?

Bill - Wow, awesome that you showed up at the farmer's market with containers. You really are getting this portion thing down.

OK, time for strength training #2 this week. Coffee is then sorely needed (probably more sorely after I lift weights, LOL!) Happy Thursday all!

09-03-2009, 11:05 AM
Good Morning! :sunny:

maryblu~ Ive thought about meditation often....I havent a clue where to start. It would be so helpful to learn how to stop my brain from racing!

gardenerjoy~ Awesome job staying away from the enticing food in the food court.

Nuxmaga~ Kudos for your steps, and great choices!!

Bill~ Big Kudos for getting your grilled veggies all packed and portioned!! As for our heating...we dont need a new boiler either, but that's what they wanted us to do. The guy today, called the wrong number and hubby had to run back over to the house so he wouldnt miss him. (lost points on that one) We think we just need the ancient radiators cleaned out or replaced. We'll see. On the bathroom front, (we started this last august before the market fell) if any of last years contractors would have been on the ball, we would have had the new bathroom done and paid for before the market crash. Anyway, we found a one stop shopping place with an awesome sales girl!! Hubby and I even went out last night and picked out paint colors and we were done within 5 min! :eek: and no arguing!! :eek: We actually agreed on the color! :lol: Wonders never cease! :)

Erika~ Awesome job walking past the goodies in the drug store!! :cb: I always find once Im past day 3 it gets easier. Hopefully today will be a breeze!

Thanks for the welcome back everyone! :hug:

I did pretty good yesterday! I did have my wine yesterday, but I had decided that I'd keep it to just wednesday nights during ghost hunters. Kind of my treat.

Food was good....salmon and grilled asparagus for dinner. Even made it to the gym yesterday :cb: Yah me!

We picked up 2 huge orders yesterday....thankfully each of them said "I dont need them right away" :)

Hubby's brand new pc now has a virus. I dont know if I had mentioned this a while pc and the home pc picked up big nasty virus' a couple months ago (adding to the stress) Pc's had to be removed and wiped completely. Then dh's pc decided it just wasnt going to turn on anymore. Pc dr. couldnt fix that one. Now the new one is infected. *sigh* This puts everything on hold....which I dont like because it takes my control away. Yes I have control issues :lol:

Im off to get busy....have an awesome day everyone!!

09-03-2009, 01:41 PM
I did okay yesterday, but not as good as I’d like. I was on plan food-wise until dinner (credit!), and then made some poor off-plan choices. Today, I've paid closer attention to my cards, and am committed to strengthening my resistance muscle. On exercise, I usually get it all done before work starts, but I’ve been sleeping late to try and ‘catch up’ -- to get past my tiredness. I did feel much better in terms of tiredness yesterday, so that’s great. But I just didn’t get in my planned 45 mins of walking… Credit for doing 35 mins though.

WI-down 1.3 lbs. Did make a plan, read my cards. Food – off-plan (+200 calories), Exercise – off-plan (35m).

Still no personals yet – :wave:

09-03-2009, 04:59 PM
robin, how delightful that you’ve got a picture up as your avatar! so nice to see what you look like! (this is, of course, assuming that it’s a picture of you. :) ) i’ve got one too in my profile but i don’t know if anyone actually ever looks at profiles. sorry to hear about the PC. that sucks. china, i’ve been in the same conundrum. two critical elements of weight loss – exercise and rest – which one wins? my own diet coach lynn was pretty clear on this when i struggled with it: rest first. if that’s getter better for you, and you still managed to work in 35 min of exercise, you’re doing GREAT! erika, what is it about being OP at home that’s tiring? is the cooking? and how wonderful that you’re in a position to take a nap during the afternoon. i’d KILL someone for that right now!!! :) bill, you are rocking that portion control. keep doing it and it may start to feel normal! you’re getting that little thrill of accomplishment, aren’t you? mary, go ON with your bad, skinny, size 6 in a smoking-red hot dress self. was just thinking about how nice it is to buy size 10 and 12 after a lifetime in 14-16s (and then some.) i wish i was in a position to shop for 10s for fall, but alas, not this year. as we say at passover, next year in new york & company. margaret’s on a roll! whoo hoo! gardnerjoy, i’m going to remember your description of the orange chicken as well. that’s plenty to keep me out of the trough. yipes.

indulged in some stress eating yesterday with a skinny cow mint ice cream sandwich and a PILE of watermelon to keep the damage to a minimum. came in at 40 cals over for the day, which isn’t bad at all, given all the walking i did. (apologizing in advance for the TMI) i’ve been spotting and cramping the last two days, and kinda sorta concerned but cognizant that it could easily be nothing, and i really don’t want to overreact. went in to see the doc today. nothing seems to be terribly off, but i got some blood drawn and will need another draw for comparison in a day or two, and was scheduled for my first sonogram next week. it’s too early this week for it to be meaningful, so it waits. i must admit - i love getting those. fairly excited to see the little yolk sac.

off to the last ballgame of the season. sad!

09-03-2009, 09:14 PM
Feeling a bit better again today. My shoulders are stiff and twinging a bit now and then, but much better than on Monday. I did yoga this morning to see how it felt – it felt great! By the time I finished work I was pretty tired and very stiff. So, no kayak ride tonight. I think DH was relieved. :)

I almost forgot to tell you all my NSV. I've been wearing size 14 / XL for a couple of months now. But I've been able to fit into a bunch of my Large clothes lately and decided to pull some size 12s up from the vaults to see how close they were to fitting. All the shirts were too small, so maybe a few more lbs to wear those. But 2 out of 3 bottoms fit perfectly. :woohoo:

:df: WI-up .4 lbs. Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (50m).

Kuhljeanie I hope all is well with your ‘OTHER kind of body building’. :crossed: I’m sorry to hear about your job – it’s tough. My DH has been out of work for 3 months now…

Robin That’s a great picture of you! And it’s great to see you back. :hug: Running a small business must be so stressful, I can’t imagine what you go through… Sounds like you are taking some great steps though – credit!

Erika It sounds like you had a great trip! Were you able to get some good deals in Freeport? It looks as though you are hitting the ground running after vacation. Credit!

Bill Grilled veggies on broccoli slaw sound good. It’s really interesting to see you dealing with portion control day in and day out. I’m pretty good at gauging a single serving of meat, veggies, rice, etc. But for a single pot meal like Pesto or a casserole, I find it much harder. I had pesto tonight and know I took more than a serving, but I don’t know how to eyeball it. How do you do it?

Margaret Finally googled zumba – looks like fun and quite a workout!

gardenerjoy Kudos for using Kessler’s description of Orange Chicken to say ‘no choice’! lol – at making your ‘librarian heart go pitter pat’.

Maryblu I resonate to ‘ I whiz through the great ones way too fast to savor the art. DH says I read so fast that I must be reading every other word. :D I have to admit that I enjoyed Dune when I read it 30-some years ago, but it wasn’t one of my favorites. :shrug:

It’s interesting that you’re thinking of taking up yoga. I get bored with it sometimes, but I really miss it when I don’t do it for a few days. This morning it felt great to do it again after 5 days off.

Wonderful story about dancing the night away in your red dress – nice! And size 4 – fantastic! I agree that writing everything down is integral to success. The Beck skills are just as important, but if I didn’t write it all down, I’d eat more than I ‘planned’.

Kim in NH
09-03-2009, 10:14 PM
Wrote out my ARC’s today. Easy to make the list, hard to put them in order of importance. I’m liking the idea of having something to do each day.

Yesterday loaded the bike and went down for a ride along the river. Stopped at a farm stand and went overboard on the quantity of produce…serious eye roll from DH when I got home. With 50 varieties of tomatoes to choose from it’s hard to not to get carried away. Anyhow, the treasure was a tiny paper husked tomato that tastes like candy. Even the kids loved them.

Today, no formal exercise as I battled the new to me seasonal allergies with sinusitis and headache. Never knew I’d get that bomb dropped on me at my age. Wasn’t enough to get me off the hook for lawn mowing, so an hour before dark I gave in and got it done, thinking maybe I sucked up all the pollen and dumped it under the grass clippings (I don’t need to know I stirred it all up into the air)

BillBlueEyes; Sounds like you are winning the struggles with portion control. Have had the same type of bizarre Amazon offerings, I now almost look forward to it.
Kuhljeanie; Sneak in those naps when you can – even 10 minutes can be good. Unless you’re like me yesterday at the 10 min mark, dog barking at a toad outside the window, DS #1 wakes me for the 4th time to ask if it’s okay to wake his dad….gave up at that point. Hope all is well with the little WIP.
ChinaMaine; Congrats on the old pants fitting. That always thrills me more than the scale!
RobinW & eusebius; welcome back! I look forward to getting to know you both. I started hanging around here last week, reading the book now, and just getting going.
Nuxmaga; Good for you passing on the caramel corn. Hoping your Zumba room is back open soon.
Gardenerjoy; That book is on my must read list. Interesting description of the orange chicken.
Maryblu; Wow, it must feel great - and good for you ditching the “big size” clothes. Makes it pretty final.

Feel lucky to have a bit of free time to get going on this plan. I work at home and have only had a few jobs since the spring. I’ve taken to thinking of myself as self-unemployed…off to watch some TV and unwind.


09-03-2009, 11:00 PM
I'm falling asleep at my computer today and haven't had time to go through and read everyone's week but will try tomorrow. Just got back from a very anxiety-ridden trip to MN (my 7 year old had a surgical follow-up). I found it really difficult to predict what I would eat given that I didn't know where we'd be eating at any given time, but I did my best. Got a little carried away with the dip that came up (unrequested) with my lunch; also made the fatal error of getting a piece of the richest chocolate mousse cake I could find (in theory for my son...ha!). But at least I didn't finish it... Just as Beck suggests, recommitted to my plan on the flight home and am back on board. Hope everyone's had a good week!

09-03-2009, 11:11 PM
Something to be thankful for:

Guy comes in pacing back and forth. Im thinking he's either a nervous crack head or a seriously stressed out customer.

He hollers at me "How much are your shirts!"
"I need much?"
"I want dark much?"
(all while doing some very fast paced pacing)
"Total that up for me!"
"How much?"
"I'll be back with cash!"
....he came back within 1/2 hour with cash. Plunked several hundred down on the counter, barked out the sizes he wanted and what he wanted the shirts to say. Barked out his request for a receipt (I gave it to him) and he left!

Im very thankful Im not functioning on that level of stress!! :whoo: (Id be in the looney bin:lol3:)

09-03-2009, 11:42 PM
Hello Coaches

I'm checking in and need to say I am unhappy with my weight yet again. I am now feeling myself to be a solid 275.

Geez Louise :(

The past three days: 275.0, 275.4, 275.6 this morning. I CAN'T STAND this creeping sensation of "getting used to this" = getting used to feeling like I am carrying a big round beach ball in front of me all the time
=getting used to having sore ankles and sore thigh muscles cause I am still over-fat for my hip joints and the nerves continue to be compressed in there
=getting used to avoiding all cameras and making sure I am the one with the camera and I get to take the picture so I'm not in it. 90% of the time this strategy works.
=getting used to feeling tired and sleeping way more and not moving as much due to feeling tired and sleepy and my body hurts easier
=getting used to just giving up, or seeing myself give up, or not complete any one day well foodwise.
=getting used to choosing from three shirts and two pants, soon to be 2 sweatshirts and also getting used to the size of my shirts - men's 3x - lalalala sticking my fingers in my ears Did I just admit that here? yeah I did. My upper arms fie! they need those extra x's... and so I dread meeting new people and showing my work as seeing my work and seeing me may be a letdown? Not what people expect? bring the value of my work down? before you all tell me this ain't so it's okay. I see what I am doing and how wrong this is. I still feel it though. My fat is draining away my power. I want my power back. :mad: That thought is what keeps me from giving up. It's pretty abstract I know but it keeps me trying and that's a credit moi if I ever heard one. Now to just try a little harder ;)

So that's the bad :dance: Yeti side of the equation.

On the more positive Beck side credit moi for: weighing only once everyday and recording it
credit moi for continuing to track down the landlord and arranging to have a copy of my lease at the rental office for me tomorrow so I can then go to the pool and get my pass to swim here for free (Adult swim: 7:45 to 8:30pm every night during the week) as well as signing up for a 4 month pass to the weight/workout room upstairs, newly cleaned and rarely used for $60; a sum I can afford right now. credit moi for reading the Kessler book Ending Overeating. It's too bad I don;t find the descriptions of stuff like salt over fat over salt off-putting. But I grew up eating fried bacon fat fried in bacon fat sprinkled with salt. *sigh* alas these things taste good to me not scary. Many a new neural pathway to be formed in my future methinks.
also credit moi for reading Steering by Starlight (, a sort of a self-help book for those of us wanting to find our true path. It was lent to me by a friend and I just enjoyed it so much I wanted my own copy to write in and mark up and just have. I've done most of the exercises in the book and I am hoping it gives me another way to come at this weight issue. She frequently mentions re-writing our beliefs and making what we truly wish come about for us, mostly through re-arranging our thoughts and desires and so we just believe we will oh, be a healthy weight perchance? She says a lot of what others have said before in other books and some of her writing is very creative and very funny and some of it makes me go "I'm not so sure that's right..." but it's a book I will turn to frequently I think as this year yawns open ahead of me and I face several new challenges.
And on another positive note, I am glad not to returning to :book2: school. I'm happy to just work there and be of service to the current students as I focus on making things for the coming year, and I'm not just talking making artwork but making headway with this weight issue and the body issues and the cleaning issues and the financial issues. Plenty for me to do.

Thanks for reading.

09-03-2009, 11:50 PM
Something to be thankful for:

Guy comes in pacing back and forth. Im thinking he's either a nervous crack head or a seriously stressed out customer.

He hollers at me "How much are your shirts!"
"I need much?"
"I want dark much?"
(all while doing some very fast paced pacing)
"Total that up for me!"
"How much?"
"I'll be back with cash!"
....he came back within 1/2 hour with cash. Plunked several hundred down on the counter, barked out the sizes he wanted and what he wanted the shirts to say. Barked out his request for a receipt (I gave it to him) and he left!

Im very thankful Im not functioning on that level of stress!! :whoo: (Id be in the looney bin:lol3:)

Wow. I can feel the stress from here! I've met lots of people who function like that at times. They are both fascinating and scary-mostly depends how I'm feeling within myself. I am so glad you were there for him. I can only imagine what would have happened had he not found someone to do this work for him! Yikes! Hopefully what he wants is basic and he'll be easily pleased :crossed: Yes, I am glad I am not him too.

09-04-2009, 12:14 AM
I went out to our nearly abandoned cabin today to do a little cleaning. I wasn't prepared for the intensity of the craving I had for the donuts that I used to pick up on my way. They are really good -- I could practically taste and smell them as I was driving out. But, they could probably be described as trans fats stuffed into trans fats topped with chocolate-flavored trans fats. Since I packed my lunch, I was able to take a different exit and not visit the store, so I avoided that debacle.

And I had another first today. On the way home, I stopped at Whole Foods and didn't buy anything to eat immediately. WF had kind of been my last refuge for indulging in treats. The chocolate chip scone is definitely a better choice than donuts but with all its refined flour and too much sugar, it doesn't come close to representing the way that I eat now.

So, two deprivations. Although I feel much less deprived when I know I get to come here and take credit for it!

Here are two abundances to balance this post out. My packed lunch included Concord grapes from last night's Farmers Market. They are the perfect Beck food -- delicious and healthy and, with multiple seeds per grape, impossible to eat quickly! And a non-food related blessing: I saw 4 deer, 3 pileated woodpeckers, a box turtle, a lizard, and a wooly caterpillar today!

WI: -0.15kgs (new low), Exercise: +40, 124/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

Nuxmaga: Yay for walking while you're waiting for Zumba to start up again. I had to make rules to stop foraging behavior -- no eating in the car and no eating anything that is purchased at a drugstore, gas station, or the mall (the only exception is a sit-down meal at the mall, eaten with someone else!).

BillBlueEyes: the grilled veggies sound wonderful -- and great job at organizing things to make them work perfectly for you.

RobinW: yay for the good food and exercise, and even the planned wine. Several of the books I've been reading recommend a bit of wine even as part of a weight loss regimen.

ChinaMaine: credit for moderating your exercise to your body's desire for rest and for working on that resistance muscle! And yay for some of your size 12s fitting!

kuhljeanie: good for you for getting to the doctor -- cautious, while being aware that it might be nothing, is exactly the way to be at this time.

Kim in NH: Yay for getting started with the Beck book! As a long time allergy and chronic sinusitis survivor, here are three things that work for me. 1) Wearing a mask (or a dampened bandana bandit-style) any time that you can get away with it, but especially mowing the lawn or doing other dusty work outdoors. 2) Putting off outdoor activities until as late as possible (just like you did!). 3) Using a neti pot, especially after outdoor work.

JenGM: sounds like you did pretty well under stressful circumstances and yay for getting back on plan!

onebyone: Yeah. I would like to just sit with you and your frustration and your fear of the Yeti and your desire for getting your power back. There's an awful lot of optimism on this site and in Beck and it's all great, except when it isn't. I suppose optimism is a vital part of the journey (why would any of us being doing this if we couldn't find some optimism), but it's not the whole story by a long shot. And if we ignore the rest of it, it all drops into Shadow and comes back to bite us somwhere else (my interpretation of Carl Jung).
I love Steering by Starlight (in fact, I discovered Martha Beck before Judith Beck, so I'm still thinking of Judith as the "other" Beck).

09-04-2009, 06:25 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Quiet around here. DW declared an emergency since we were down to five blueberries, so I got to dedicate my walk to foraging for some more; CREDIT moi. Food OP; CREDIT moi. Got some stress stuff at work going on.

Had my quarterly teeth cleaning in the morning. I'd doing sorta OK in the flossing; hygienist wants more, as she always does. Some day I'm gonna floss six times a day and see if she still says the same thing, LOL. I signed up for a teeth whitening session. I hope that's a reasonable idea, it's pricey enough.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Watermelon is a gift from the gods - go for it. Yep, I'm feeling the rush of being attentive to my eating. It's easy to drift away being mindful. Sending supportive thoughts for your blood tests.

onebyone - That's one powerful thought: "I want my power back." Kudos for taking the steps with the pool and the gym; that's a big deal. I join you in, "Many a new neural pathway to be formed in my future methinks." Good to be reminded that we're out to change the ruts in our brains.

Robin (RobinW) - Just amazing that you chose colors in 5 minutes and agree; I'm jealous. Hope that is a sign that the bathroom will be completed quickly also. And that your radiators will be revitalized before the first cold settles in. Kudos for good food and gym.

What a story about stress; think I'd feel the stress while printing those. Yay for the huge orders to pay for the bathroom.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for getting in your walking even while you're fighting tired and stiff. As for eyeballing portions I feel I leave myself vulnerable to emotional sizing. Yep, those one dish meals are difficult for me, also. I generally let my DW serve my dinner plate since she's about 120 pounds and been that forever. That sort of ducks the issue, but that was actually my plan from almost four years ago since I was in the habit of serving myself about twice what she was eating. I still have to solve this one.

Erika (eusebius) - Yay for naps; they are so obviously the only sane way to live and yet few of us ever take them. LMAO at your tombstone carved with Anne (wndranne)'s "I grow weary of my own nonsense."

Joy (gardenerjoy) - "3 pileated woodpeckers" in one day - I'm so jealous. So much good CBT stuff you're doing. Changing your exit to avoid going by the donut shop is a classic. And the Concord grapes with multiple seeds as speed bumps is just great. But really LOL at your Kesllering the donuts with, "trans fats stuffed into trans fats topped with chocolate-flavored trans fats." You're on a roll alright; Kudos.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Your bike ride along the river sounds fun; Kudos. LOL at "serious eye roll from DH" for the bounty from the farmer's market. I love those little tomatoes, yep taste like candy.

JenGM - Sending supportive thoughts for your DS's recovery. Kudos for being conscious of your food plan during an anxious time. And BIG Kudos for immediately recommitting.

Readers - Looking Forward

And, of course, you'll be able to enjoy other benefits, too.

. . .
• You'll feel better physically.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 47.

09-04-2009, 08:56 AM
Morning Coaches -

Streak extended to Day 4. Credit for dealing with some emotional moments through NO CHOICE and positive thinking rather than eating. Had an unplanned glass of wine, but it was well within points limits and I didn't eat more as a result.

Robin - yay for staying OP! If you are interested in meditation I can recommend some good books & tapes ... PM me if interested. Unbelievable about the stressed out guy. Sounds like he's headed down the short road to a heart attack.

ChinaMaine - Sleep is so important - I am glad to hear you're conquering the tiredness. I went to bed early myself last night and it's making a big difference this morning. Great job getting into size 12!! Fabulous! I actually did get a couple of good deals at the Nike outlet in Freeport - it is nice to be run/walking in new outfits.

kuhljeanie - thanks for asking about the fatigue - it isn't so much eating OP that's tiring as just being back to work and thinking about the house, DD's school, etc. Nice work staying within 40 cals of your limit. Good thoughts and hoping that the spotting etc. is nothing serious (I had it too during my first trimester and went to emergency - everything was OK though).

Kim - Great job on the ARC's. Allergies can be so debilitating! I hope they don't keep you down for long. Love your avatar by the way - Hokusai?

JenGM - I don't think I got a chance to say Welcome!! Hope your 7yrold is OK and great job staying reasonable with eating while away.

onebyone - Big credit to you for reporting your emotions here and for all the good steps you're taking. Did you know Martha Beck (Steering by Starlight) has a diet book called The Four Day Win? I thought it was pretty interesting ...

gardenerjoy - Nice work avoiding donuts and Whole Foods temptations!! Would love to see all the local fauna you have in the area. Beautiful.

Bill - LOL, 5 blueberries is definitely an emergency situation. Kudos for staying OP despite work stress! I totally hear you on the flossing. I have a hygienist appointment in 2 wks and need to get going on it so I don't get the same lecture over again ...

OK, meditation and coffee time; cardio #3 for the week later this morning. Happy Friday and good thoughts for the long weekend.


09-04-2009, 11:28 AM
Im here and Im being good! But Im behind on stuff! Erika pls go ahead and send that info to me.

Thanks everyone for the welcome backs!! I'll post more tonight when Im settled in on the couch :D

Have a great friday!! :wave:

09-04-2009, 12:55 PM
hi everyone,

this'll be short...more bleeding, nurse called back with very low HGC numbers and doc cancelled the ultrasound, wants another beta to see if things are going like they should be in a few days. doesn't look great at this point but am holding on to a thread of hope.

Kim in NH
09-04-2009, 08:35 PM
Still on Day 1, although I completed the ARC(s) I have not set up my reminder system to read them. I am determined that I will do all the tasks before moving on, and I really like that she drilled that importance into me.

No exercise today, as it was spent cutting and dry laying tile with a rented saw for woodstove hearth #2. Job went quick after the engineer (DH) and the retired draftsman (me) finally understood that tile tolerance will not be to the 1/32nd of an inch. Tomorrow I get to cement it in…my knees are not happy.

Can’t get Wndranne’s phrase out of my head. I like it too much. It replaced that hole in the bucket song that one of you reminded me of last week.

BillBlueEyes; blueberries are so worth any trip out to get. My favs are the little wild ones, but we had a poor crop in our picking spots here. Hygienists see every gum bleed are poor flossing, as they poke you with a metal stick.
Gardenerjoy; I envy you seeing the Pileated – we had nothing here for wildlife in four years (since getting two dogs.) Love those Concord grapes too! As far as trans fat – I think of it as irreversible damage and that keeps me away from it.
OnebyOne; Thank you for sharing that. Your struggles are so familiar. Lots of guilt over the photo thing myself. My kids will look back over the years and wonder if they had a mother at all. Doesn’t sound like you are ready to “get used to” any of that so good for you for wanting your power back and a great way to sum it up.
Eusebius; Nice if you can have the wine and not let it lead to snacks, too! (my problem). I have a bead loom and have worked up a pattern for The Great Wave, so seeing it reminds me to get going on that.
JenGM; Glad to see you’re back. Hope all is well with your son. Nice to only have had two so-so moments foodwise while traveling, that’s a tough test just starting out.
RobinW; I have been grilling salmon a lot lately, it is so good this time of year.

And Kuhljeanie, thinking of you and hoping things are okay…


09-04-2009, 09:40 PM
Evening Coaches

I was fretting over getting new work ready for my farmer's market tomorrow when my lift to the market called and canceled. I must say, my friend has the uncanny knack of canceling going out to sell and make $ on the weekends that are most probably the most lucrative. There I am trying to save money by not renting cars and instead I am just not making money at all. It was, probably, the wrong decision to make. If I do markets again next year I have to re-think it.

I do have plenty of work to do though so in that way I'll be busy. And it's a beautiful weekend forecast too so that's just good news. Very good news.

So credit moi for weighing in once this morning
credit moi for planned exercise walking from the transit station to the management office for our large complex and picking up a copy of my lease and then walking home the long way
credit moi for persisting in the chase to get a copy of my lease

but BOOOOOOO HISSSSS for the recreation complex, beside the rental office that had my copy of my lease, being CLOSED until Sept. 8th. Alas :shrug: I cannot get that swimming pass until then nor can I sign up for the gym/weight room upstairs until then either. Again, another delay. But, as usual, I will persist and see it through. "Free" :swim:swimming is worth the wait as is the discount rate for the :ebike:gym.
And as a bonus, while picking up my lease I heard myself inquire about teaching classes at the rec complex. My subconscious said it. I didn't plan it or think about it beforehand, the words just fell out of my mouth. "I'm an art teacher..." I heard myself say! Guess I believe that!:yes: So perhaps a little local painting class may be just right here... and further experience for me to take with me wherever I go.

Food-wise a much better day with better choices. yay.

kuhljeanie I'm thinking good thoughts for you... Try not to worry too much but I know this would be very tough to deal with still... being stressed out never helped fix anything. Big hugs to you today. :hug:

Kim in NH that you are working not only on a wood stove hearth but on wood stove hearth #2 fills me with longing for a place of my own, and wood stove and a sauna and a northern lake to jump into after the sauna... guess you can;t help me with much of that but you're right to spend time with the beginning stages of Beck. And thanks for the reminder for me to also get back to it.

RobinW :wave: good news on the good day!

eusebius I think I am getting into Martha Beck so thanks for the tip about the Four Day Win. I thought she had another book called The Joy Diet -- but I think that's for pessimists to learn how to turn over a shiny new happy leaf green leaf and drink in the sun... Kudos for not allowing a minor deviation to take away the FACT of a four day streak.

Billblueeyes CREDIT toi for sticking to your plan even though you've Got some stress stuff at work going on. That kind of thing totally knocks me off my socks still. Thanks for the example that it doesn't have to. And hiphiphurray for blueberries still being around!

:wave: to everyone I've missed - thanks everyone for being around and checking in.

09-04-2009, 11:59 PM
Kuhljeanie, thinking of you...


09-05-2009, 12:12 AM
Look! I earned my signature file!

I've just finished my first week of 10 Minute Solution: Target Toning for Beginners (it's a DVD, but I've been streaming it through my Netflix account). And, I'm really pleased. No pain, but I'm already feeling stronger. I especially notice it walking up steps -- my thighs are doing the work instead of my knees. That seems like a lot of progress with only ten minutes a day for five days.

WI: -0.35kgs (new low), Exercise: +40, 164/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

BillBlueEyes: Good for you staying on program during a stressful time at work.

eusebius: Yay for Day 4. According to Martha Beck's book, 4 Day Win, that's about the time it takes to fully commit to something new. Oh, I see you've read it! Are you giving yourself rewards?

kuhljeanie: sending healing thoughts your way at this vulnerable time for you.

Kim in NH: Good for you for taking the Beck stuff slow. It feels to me like , with Beck, we're getting this right for the long haul. And that's a big difference from everything else that I've tried.

onebyone: yay for all the activity and the better food choices and for being persistent in all kinds of ways. You are right about The Joy Diet -- I'm guessing it's not the book you want at the moment. It hasn't been a book I wanted yet, either -- I just picked it up and looked at it once.

09-05-2009, 01:04 AM
Hi coaches! Fell asleep putting my daughter to bed and just woke up to do this! Credit moi! Stayed OP; woke up too late for planned run but readjusted and did the elliptical later in the day after getting my youngest down for a nap. Watched my family down Baja Fresh nachos and quesadillas without too much pain! It's seeming easy to stay OP right now -- I doubt it'll last but it sure is nice!

kuhljeanie –I’ve been through that a few times myself. You’re in my thoughts.

Kim – I’m looking for a good reminder system for the ARC’s. Let me know if you find one! I initially set my cell phone to alarm 3 x a day as a reminder, but it always went off in the middle of a doctor’s appt or some other time that was inconvenient. And good for you for trying to do all the tasks. I’ve found it helpful to use her “priority” form (you can get it at her online site) to force myself to do the things that might not otherwise get done (exercise, in my case).

onebyone - Good for you getting your exercise in despite the lease frustrations!

gardenerjoy – Way to strengthen your resistance muscle in avoiding the donuts/scone! Maybe it’ll get easier next time? BTW, my fave bedtime treat is frozen grapes… yummy and goes a lot slower than icecream!

Bill – Good work staying OP!

Erika – glad you didn’t let the unplanned glass of wine derail you. Kudos for staying on plan!

Walking Princess
09-05-2009, 01:14 AM
Hi all,

Sorry I didn't check in yesterday. It was our 15 year wedding anniversary and dh surprised me by taking me to dinner right at 5 so we didn't get back home until late then I had to get little man to bed, homework done, etc. Anyway, he took me to Olive Garden. I hadn't planned for eating out that day as I figured on making something at the house for him. I had the salad and only 1 breadstick (I usually eat 3-4). I ordered the Whole Wheat Linguine (never done that before) and the meat sauce. I left 1/3 of the bowl. We had a glass of wine to toast too. I was pretty nervous about the calories by then so when the waitress came by and asked if we wanted dessert I was like NO! But she said you have to pick something as we have a surprise for you. DH and I got the Italian donuts with the chocolate sauce. OMG it was so freakin good!!! We split it but none the less it was costly in calories. I logged in all the calories from the website when I got home and it wasn't pretty. Even with all the modifications I made it was 1400 calories!! :o Needless to say, I about passed out on the couch. I don't think I'll be eating there anytime soon again. I thought I had done so well too! :-( Now normally we wouldn't have had the wine or the dessert so I can take off 600 calories off of that but still. That is a lot of freakin calories!!

Anyway, I did better today despite forgetting my lunch and having to get something while at work. I did really well. I just ordered something healthy and then ate 1/2 and gave the rest to a friend. I did have one moment of weakness and ate 1 graham cracker because I was hungry before dinner. Not that 1 graham cracker is a big deal calorie wise but it's the whole concept that Beck doesn't want us to eat if it's not planned. Tsk, tsk to me!

Talk to you tomorrow!


09-05-2009, 07:10 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Due to the convergence of what-happens-next, I took my car into the financial district of downtown Boston at morning rush hour on a workday. Would think that the world's worst idea, but it was an unexpectedly positive driving experience even though most streets are named Milk, State, or Federal and all are one-way the other way. I remembered that Winter Street is a terrific shortcut to Summer Street but, fortunately, also remembered that I walk on Winter Street because it's a pedestrian mall, so had to plan my drive around. The bicycle messengers on their one speed bikes dart about drawing my jealously for their lean, hard bodies. It's such a vibrant and attractive city. I really like living here.

Food OP; CREDIT moi. At gym I concentrated on feeling the muscles to distract myself from rushing; CREDIT moi. Watched the lunges form of a guy doing them slowly and well which helped me get them right. Then watched the same guy do the plank - a diabolically yoga-like pose that looks simple but seems to work every muscle in the body. Good reminder that I used to do those and should get back into them.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Sending supportive thoughts.

onebyone - Ouch for the missed market day. Yep, Big Kudos for chasing down the paperwork to get into your pool and gym even thought the knuckleheads locked down the office just when you needed it. Maybe some outside time for this good weather weekend.

Yay for acknowledging "I'm an art teacher..." Are the classes going to happen?

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for being good. Yay for having stuff on which to be behind.

Erika (eusebius) - Kudos for deploying NO CHOICE and positive thinking rather than eating. Nice to be reminded that that's what we're striving to do with this CBT stuff. And good demo that a one glass of wine diversion doesn't need to be the start of a major off-plan indulgence.

Kara (Walking Princess) - Happy 15th, may you have many more. Ouch for being snookered by Olive Garden, but you've found the best strategy for them - bring most of it home. If you're going to indulge in a dessert, you can't do much better than profiteroles. I've had them in Milan and from Italian bakeries in the Boston Italian neighborhood. You've got me drooling. Kudos for a bounded excursion and for getting right back on track.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Neat that you can feel the results of toning already. Yay for emerging muscles. See your signature file; you're now an old hand on 3FC.

Kim (Kim in NH) - LOL that "that tile tolerance will not be to the 1/32nd of an inch." BTDT. Same holds for paving blocks in a driveway. Congrats for having the skills and courage to rent a tile saw and just Do It. Good luck with cementing them all down today. And Kudos for paying serious attention to completing all the tasks of Day 1; good start there.

We do love those small, wild, low-bush blueberries. They never show up in our stores. We consider them a treat only available when driving in NH or Maine. Wish you guys would ship more down this way.

JenGM - Kudos for ignoring "Baja Fresh nachos and quesadillas." LOL at falling asleep while putting your DD to sleep; I remember those times fondly.

Readers - Looking Forward

. . .
You'll also discover dozens of additional benefits as you lose weight and maintain your weight loss. All of these wonderful things were experienced by the dieters I've worked with - and they'll happen for you, too!

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 47.

09-05-2009, 08:56 AM
Feeling a bit better again; I did yoga plus a core workout. My shoulders felt pretty good, except for one spasm towards the end. DH finished the docks yesterday. We have a 12’ x 12’ floating dock now. Yesterday he added a ladder and dock cleats for function and fun. He also added some weight to stabilize the docks when people stand or walk around. I dragged our two most comfy outdoor chairs out there for DH and I to use. My shoulders and back ached yesterday evening, but feel great now.

It’s been an odd week for me Beck-wise. I’ve been working out less than usual by an average of 200 calories a day. Somehow that’s given me mental permission to eat a bit more than usual, by an average of 100 calories a day. My net calories per day put me in the weight loss zone, but by a much smaller amount than usual. I have a house full of guests for the weekend. So, I’ll try to move a lot and eat reasonably. But come next week, it’ll be time to get serious again. :)

The town next to ours has a nice big fair every year over Labor Day. We went last night so DH could enjoy bad fair food and so we could watch the horse pull. I’d never seen one before I moved to Maine, I don’t think they do them at the fairs in NY (where I grew up). Two horses pull large pallets of weights. The horse pull events draw huge crowds and it’s much more exciting than it sounds. I think it must be the focus and physical power the horses demonstrate that makes the horse pull so exciting. The winning team was a gorgeous pair of light brown horses, who pulled 7400 lbs over 12’!

For dinner I walked around trying to find something that looked like it was probably gluten-free and didn’t have too many calories. They have great fries at the fair that are GF, but I walked past them – too many calories! And I wasn’t really in the mood for tons of fat. I would have gotten greek chicken (aka souvlaki) but they had just run out – darn. So, I settled on baked potato with chili, broccoli, cheese and sour cream. I was thinking the cheese would be shredded cheese, but instead it was the foul, gloppy, liquid cheese. Oh well… I ate about half and then DH finished the rest after inhaling his gyro. Sometimes I feel like an enabler with DH, but I don’t encourage him to clean my plate…

We’ll head back to the fair on Sunday so our neices can visit all the barns, ride the rides, and play games of skill and chance. Can’t wait!

:df: WI-up .2 lbs. Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (47m).

Kuhljeanie :hug: to you and :crossed: that things get better. Try to relax this weekend…

I need to start prepping the house for everyone arriving soon, so have a great weekend everyone. :wave:

09-05-2009, 10:20 AM
Morning Coaches -

Quick flyby today as I slept in too long. Streak extended to Day 5, though I had an unplanned latte (3 pts) that was still within my limits. Oh Well. Wish me luck today ... dinner at the parents'. No idea what's on the menu, but mom knows I'm counting points, so there is hope.

Kuhljeanie - I continue to think of you and send good thoughts ...


09-05-2009, 10:27 AM
hey all,

thanks so much for your thoughts. lost the pregnancy last night. will take a few days to process and i apologize for not responding to the PMs, but i really, really appreciate them and thank you. we'll be all right, just very sad right now.

09-05-2009, 11:32 AM
kuhljeanie I'm so so sorry :hug:

09-05-2009, 11:42 AM
jeanie -- I'm terribly sorry, please know that I'm thinking of you, your DH, and your entire family.:hug:

09-05-2009, 11:52 AM
Jeanie, So sorry about the lost pregnancy. Take your time and take care of yourself.

Kim in NH
09-05-2009, 11:58 AM
Kuhljeanie, I am sorry to hear that. Take time to heal and be with your family.


09-05-2009, 01:17 PM
Jean (kuhljeanie) - So sorry to hear the news. Will continue to send supportive thoughts for your and your DH's recovery.

09-05-2009, 03:53 PM
Kuhljeanie, I am so very sorry for your loss. We are all with you in spirit.

09-05-2009, 10:59 PM
Kuhljeanie--You and your family are in my thoughts.

09-05-2009, 11:30 PM
My challenge today is what my doctor calls allergy malaise. It's not as bad as fatique and its primary feature is apathy. Unfortunately, "I don't care" is the absolute worst thought I can have around food. Fortunately, Beck has a response card for that. Although, I had to rewrite it a bit. Eating is a real comfort during this malaise and I don't have much regret or guilt surrounding it -- before, during, or after. But the long term trend of weight gain does bother me and I'm pretty sure that I can't reverse the trend while still eating mindlessly during these episodes. So, I remembered that.

And I remembered that ChinaMaine used a novel for distraction recently, which helped me too. And I remembered that kuhljeanie said a few days ago that she might as well eat on plan when her mind was numb, and I found that even in my apathy, I could buy that argument. So, I stayed on plan. I didn't like it much, but I did it.

WI: +.15kgs, Exercise: +45, 209/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

JenGM: Congrats for staying with the program, even in the presence of nachos and quesadillas!

Walking Princess: Sounds like you're really making progress in thinking in the Beck way. I'm finding it takes a lot of practice! Good job on making the best of the Olive Garden meal and getting right back on plan the next day.

BillBlueEyes: I just discovered that I can do the plank from elbows instead of hands. I think that's going to help me work my way up to a real one. I never before saw a path from my current wimpy state to a plank.

ChinaMaine: Glad your shoulders are improving. I've also noticed a correlation in my life in exercising less and eating more. That can be a spiraling down process for me, so I'm glad to see that you've got a plan to keep a lid on it over the weekend and a commitment get back to more normal days next week.

eusebius: hope the family dinner goes well for you!

kuhljeanie: continuing to think of you! And sending warm and healing energies.

Walking Princess
09-06-2009, 02:27 AM
Hi all,

First I want to start off by saying to Jeannie that I am so very sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what you are going through right now but you are in my thoughts and prayers. :hug:

I'm going to be offline for a couple days. We are leaving tomorrow with Little Man for a couple days at Disneyland (we have the annual pass). We are celebrating our anniversary and enjoying the long weekend. I'll be back online on Tuesday. I'm taking my exercise clothes with me to work out at the hotel and have a plan for food. Let's hope everything goes according to plan!

Be back soon!


09-06-2009, 08:27 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Yikes!!! My supermarket had NO blueberries. Said that they usually get in 50 boxes but yesterday received only 4 and those where gone in the first hour. Went to another supermarket and found them selling the half-pints for $4 - too pricey for me. So, I ran to a little store near my house in the other direction and found a mere 5 pints remaining for $4 each. Grabbed four of them for a last week of blueberry orgy. They're from Nova Scotia which means the season is nearly over since there are no blueberries grown in the Arctic. I mourn.

Finally fixed the heating system problem that has plagued me; CREDIT moi for, say, arranging my environment. I'm greatly relieved. But food was OP and exercise OK; CREDIT moi. In the distant past I would have tried to eat my way through the stress of not knowing what the problem was.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Continue to send healing thoughts. Glad that you recognize that the loss requires a grieving process.

ChinaMaine - Yay for a house full of guests on a weather-perfect Labor Day weekend. Congrats for finishing the dock and Kudos for mindfully making food choices at the fair. Good luck on the return trip with your nieces.

Erika (eusebius) - Yay for sleeping in. Congrats to your DD for not waking you up to ask if it's time for you to be awake yet, LOL. Hope diner with your folks went well.

Kara (Walking Princess) - Have a fun trip to Disneyland. Kudos for leaving with exercise clothes and a food plan.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Kudos for working different strategies for sailing through the doldrums. And Congrats for finding a path to get to the plank form that you want. I've only done the plank from the elbows so I'll have to look up the hands version.

Readers - Get Ready: Lay the Groundwork

The time you put into getting ready will help you to:

• Talk back to your sabotaging thoughts.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-06-2009, 09:52 AM
Gardenerjoy, listen to yourself! I just read your thought process about allergy malaise (will have to google that) and your Beckian response. ..and then your drawing on strategies from ChinaMaine and wisdom from just read and smiled, and shook my head. That is so cool.

I think the thing we have to constantly keep reminding ourselves of is the traps that used to prevent our being able to control our weight. I always think the worst is that "all or nothing" mentality, but the other one that is almost as defeating is forgetting that:

It's the consistency, stupid

It is. It is just day after day, planning, doing, NO CHOICE. That is why BillBE is here reporting everyday. Even though at goal and maintaining for years, he is the most consistent of us all. When I hear what he has resisted, I think, sounded so good, it wouldn't have killed you......but, it does weaken the resistance muscle. It does. Consistency is why the maintainers post every day, and work so hard at maintaining.

It is the day after day ..just do it. When I lost the weight originally, it was 5 pounds a month, just from eating less. I never worried about it..or mourned for what I was missing..It was just day after day of not being full....being hungry every 3 hours or so.

As for the plank thing......I never even saw planks from the hand position! Even Dr. Oz does from elbows! If it's good enough for him that way......

Kuhljeanie, thinking of you and glad another day of healing has gone by.

09-06-2009, 10:19 AM
Morning Coaches -

Dinner with the family was OK. I did eat more than I normally would, but I set aside a boatload of points just in case, so I was OK. I had the munchies later in the evening, but told myself NO CHOICE - credit. Also did session #4 of cardio for the week - credit. Today is a rest day.

kuhljeanie - continuing to think of you and send good thoughts.

gardenerjoy - Wow, terrific work staying OP with the allergy malaise ... you are really getting this Beck thing down!!

Kara - Have a wonderful time at Disneyland! Great job making an exercise and food plan for going away!

Bill - I mourn with you at the loss of blueberry season. They do grow the darned things in South America ... not exactly locavore, alas.

maryblu - Oh yeah. It's the consistency, stupid. Routines and habits, and just reminding yourself of what needs to be done, day after day after day. As a musician you'd think I would have figured that out by now. ROFLMAO!!!

Ok, I hear weird crashing noises from downstairs, which means DD is up, and up to no good at that. ;) Enjoy your Sunday, all!


09-06-2009, 10:44 AM
Maryblu, thanks for those thoughts. I needed to hear them.

Today is going to be a good day. If it kills me. Metaphorically, of course.


09-06-2009, 11:20 PM
Afternoon and supper at the in-laws. I gave myself a reasonably generous plan and then kept to it and I walked more than my plan because we walked, not once, but twice today!

WI: -0.05kgs, Exercise: +60, 269/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

Walking Princess: have fun at Disneyland!

BillBlueEyes: Good for you for not eating through the stress -- and giving yourself credit for that change in your life.

maryblu: Yes! Yes! Yes! Thanks for all of that. Consistency is the answer. I'm finding that posting here and reading other's posts are miraculously motivating.

eusebius: congrats on handling the family dinner well. I hope the crashing noises downstairs weren't as bad as they sounded!

wndranne: hope your day was good -- and didn't kill you :-)

09-06-2009, 11:46 PM

food is off but planned off. Does that make sense?

Picked up "The End of Overeating" today. I need to figure out a way to get my dd to read parts of it.

Ive noticed since she is back to school and hanging out with her girlfriends....especially the "bigger" girls she is allowing herself to be pulled into the "sugar traps".

This is a tough one ....Im still working on how to handle it.

I need to focus on myself and get "everything" under control.

Ive been tossing around "again" going to OA. Working the Beck teachings and going to meetings might help. Either way Im still struggling with the addiction aspect of all this.

Ok... Im off to bed! I hope everyone is having a great holiday weekend!!!

09-07-2009, 12:11 AM
Hi All,
11,000+ steps, credit. Tracked food, credit. Threw out half of the whoopie pie I impulsively bought at the check out counter--yay! Those things are a calorie bomb. Also impulse bought a chocolate bar, but held on and gave it to dh. Feeling stressed today, so I think it's coming out in treat foraging, but I did feel good when I minimized the damage.

Went to a fabulous Middle Eastern restaurant for dinner. Calories over for the day, but like maryblu said, if I keep tracking consistently, checking in here, doing my exercise, ditching snacks half eaten(usually I'm very black and white about this--if I bought it, I eat all of it), then I will keep losing weight.

Happy Labor Day!

09-07-2009, 12:38 AM
Good Evening Coaches

I had a pretty good food day. I ate food I cooked from scratch credit and have some left for tomorrow and probably the next day &/or for the freezer credit this is the beginning of planning so a credit for seeing this for what it is. I have abstained from eating this evening so a credit for that too. I have been eating really late and sometimes like right before bed, and it is always something salty so :doh: it doesn't take a genius to see why those morning weigh-in's continue to be in the 274-276 range. Nope. Oh credit for continuing to consistently weigh in once in the morning. This morning's result? 275.4. yesterday 274.6.

And while I do have another day off tomorrow, I also have a plan for the week. I will get my recreation centre pass on Tuesday after 4pm when the centre is open and begin swimming this week. I am not doing anything fancy just getting the bathing suit on, walking over to the pool, and swimming during adult swim time which if I remember it right is 8-8:45pm. I am usually hitting the hay by then but I can swim and then sleep like a rock. Water always does that to me anyway. I think I'll get the pass to the weight/fitness room too. I am back to wondering if we are going to move. (All decisions about moving including finding the extra $ for it and where we'd move to are up to me btw. I'm a little :mad: about this but oh well. If DH and I need to chat about this down the line so be it. For now it's not necessary. Sadly, neither he nor I have the $ to make any moves anyway right now.)

I've gone back to reading the End of Overeating book and some real lights are turning on for me. I just realized that my childhood eating patterns are HARDWIRED into my brain, hello? No wonder changing how I eat is so tough and no wonder I return to where I left off as I will of course return to well worn neural paths, acted out as my old habits. The rut is there, well-used, tried and true. I am not sure what happens when we re-wire the brain and create new neural pathways, do we eradicate the old ones or do we just add to the mix? Does anyone know the answer? Now it makes sense why the rule of thumb is 21 days make a habit. that's 21 days of new actions brought about by new thinking/actions = new neural pathways being forged. 21 days must be the time it takes to really burn them in. So not eating after 7pm has a better chance of becoming part of my ordinary life if I do it for at least 21days... it takes time grasshopper. Time. Don't eat sugar for 21 days. Exercise for 21 days &etc. You/me/we can't give up/give in after, say a day, or two or three.
And hence, the resistance muscle.
Every time we resist the neural pathway that's forming to correspond to this actionsupports us with a "yes this is the norm for me. I resist and don't give in to food X or situation Y or emotional trigger Z because it no longer feels right for me to do that" well that all happens cause we've made the neurological right of way within our minds to follow that path and not the other older one. I completely believe this. I do. At one time I had to fight fear and panic level anxiety on a daily basis. The actions I took were extremely difficult at one time and they took constant self-talk and practice and vigilance. now I rarely experience that kind or thing but when it crops up, I notice it and I do what makes it better not what makes it worse. CBT at its best. i suppose it's also the reason behind reading the cards so often, again to get it in our heads/brains. Consistency and repetition. it really is the key to this and to so much of life really.

Better go. I am fading but it's nice to have some light bulbs going off on this topic. It feels like it's taken a long time to start to feel a little hopeful again and to feel like I am ready to try again. I am.

:wave: Good night Becksters one and all.

09-07-2009, 07:39 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Nano victory: I had already passed on a basket of store-cookies, CREDIT moi, when I was putting the basket away and had to dump two nice sized pieces. I just dumped them instead of eating them. BIG CREDIT moi, since I'm oddly drawn to cookie parts even when I'm resistant to whole cookies. In the same light, I noticed that when the ice cream truck drove by in the evening that I didn't feel the urge to go get ice cream. Now I haven't bought from an ice cream truck since childhood, but I've always been drawn. Thinking that all this CBT might be rewiring some of my networks like onebyone is suggesting.

Did gym on Sunday since it has short hours for Labor Day; CREDIT moi. Monday and Tuesday will be my two days of gym rest.

maryblu - Yay for "It's the consistency, stupid." Yep, need to post that on my fridge and bathroom mirror and computer desktop. Your enthusiasm makes me tingle - just love it. And thanks for the kind words. I do get mucho encouragement reading the posts of good folk in their battles.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Hope you continue to heal; continuing to send supportive thoughts.

onebyone - Thanks for your thoughts on rewiring the neural pathways. I don't know what happens to the old ones. I easily remember how to ride a bike, but I easily forget how to reset the time on the microwave after a power outage. Some paths are more equal than others. Yay for feeling hope and Kudos for sticking to your plan to get the swimming and weight room passes tomorrow.

Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for the "sugar traps" and Ouch for the special pain of worrying about someone else. Perhaps if you marked a specific sidebar in The End of Overeating you could draw your DD in one page at at time. Sending supportive thoughts for getting "everything" under control.

Anne (wndranne) - Yay for a good day. Hope you're having weather as nice as we're having here on the east coast for the long weekend.

Erika (eusebius) - LOL at "weird crashing noises from downstairs" which, of course, is only slightly better than that startling realization that there's been utter quiet for too long. Kudos for zapping your munchies with "NO CHOICE."

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Drooling over "fabulous Middle Eastern restaurant for dinner." Gotta love it when you eat well and stay on plan. Kudos for tossing the remainder of the whoopie pie and giving away the chocolate bar. Just amazing how that stuff can just jump into our hands for an impulse purchase.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Kudos for two walks to balance two meals at the in-law's. Neat idea to give yourself a reasonably generous plan for such an occasion then keeping to it.

Readers - Get Ready: Lay the Groundwork

The time you put into getting ready will help you to:
. . .
• Reduce the frequency and intensity of cravings.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-07-2009, 09:17 AM
Morning Coaches -

Managed to get myself out of bed a bit earlier today - inching backwards for the start of the school year.
4 lbs gone this week - much of it water retention from the vacation, but still, 4. Getting closer to being back where I was. This is good. For some reason I was having a low blood sugar episode in the grocery store yesterday, but managed to make it through without buying junk. Credit. Back to cardio today.

wndranne - :wave: Hope you had a good day and survived ;)

gardenerjoy - well done keeping on plan at the inlaws! The crashing noises ended up being annoying, but not life-threatening :lol:

Robin - A tough one re: your daughter. My thinking is that you are providing her with a stellar example and that is the best thing you can do. I don't know your DD but I certainly remember not being real open to suggestions from my mom when I was a teenager ...

Nuxmaga - Fabulous job minimizing the stress eating!! Keep at it and it's going to happen for you, absoluely.

onebyone - Great job eating well yesterday! Your swimming plan sounds good too. Yep, consistency shapes our neural pathways - I've got to keep remembering that.

Bill - Kudos for dumping the cookie pieces and keeping up the gym! Interesting about the ice cream truck. Doesn't surprise me ... I think you have succeeded with your neural pathways in stellar fashion.

kuhljeanie - continued good thoughts to you for your healing process.

OK Coaches, not sure what's on the docket for today (other than the eating plan and cardio) but I hope it will be relaxing and fun. Happy Labour day, all!


09-07-2009, 11:10 AM
Hi Coaches

Not sure what little character would go best to illustrate a Labour Day holiday. Perhaps this one :beach:. Fortunately our weather supports this icon yet again today.

Well in spite of today's weigh-in 277.8 :mad:which requires another adjustment of the "all time high" since I've been here posting on3FC I can say that seeing that number sent me into a panic and a downward spiral that I have now evened out from. Salt, salt, salt. Yesterday I had ham (salt) and made soup (chicken cubes from health food store but still salty stuff) and then ate a lot of fibre (beans, no sugar/salt granola in the morning) and so it takes time to clear your system. It may also be that I am at that halfway point of my month where I blow up like a big balloon anyway. I get fooled into thinking I am getting TOM and I don't. This is part of me being 45 it seems, (heading to 46 on the downward slide now:woops:).

oh well.

Today's plans include tracking my food and getting outside into the sun. Nothing more earth shattering than that.

eusebius Congrats on the 4lbs loss and for staying firm when feeling wiggly in the grocery store. Enjoy your cardio today.

BillBlueEyes Big Kudos for dumping the bits of cookies. I did the same yesterday (credit moi) with some fatty bits of a food that shall remain nameless. I was thrilled to see it go plop into the garbage can. A first for me with that food. I had forgotten until I read your post. Thanks.

Nuxmaga Yes you are right. Exactly right. Keep doing the things you are doing and changes happen. Credit to you for ditching one treat and giving another away and for entering grey area. Most things really aren't black or white, not if you're looking at the big picture.

RobinW I am finding that the End of Overeating book is unexpectedly giving me insight into my addictive behaviour around food. BIG BIG issues for me. Very old very deep for me. I went to an OA meeting a few weeks ago. It felt good. Have I been back? No. Will I go back? Maybe. I wish for you the same peace with this issue I wish for myself. :hug:

gardenerjoy Two positive Beckian behaviours were modeled for us by you 1) you made a plan and 2) you stuck to it ... oh and 3) you got some exercise too to help go with the modification to your plan. Awesomeness.

wndranne Hi! I like it when you check in. I hope things are coming together for you. as an aside, what's your desert look like this time of year? Are there signs of Fall in a desert environment... besides kids going back to school I mean? Just curious. I love the desert.

maryblu It's the consistency, stupid

Thank you.

Have a good Holiday Monday.

Kim in NH
09-07-2009, 01:11 PM
Officially on Day 3 - taking it slow still. The act of writing is therapeutic. Making the cards, checking things off, it seems so much more real to me than any other plan I’ve tried before. Just doing those things makes me feel I have accomplished something. This is the first time I have not skimmed through a book thinking “oh, I know all this stuff already”.
I almost did so this morning reading about sitting down to eat. I was thinking 'okay, this is easy, 3 meals sitting down, I already do this 95% of the time.' Then she mentioned snacks and I was stunned. I completely forgot snacks and of course most of my snacking is not sitting. I will continue to read and thoroughly explore every word of this book and not assume anything.

The scale showed a 5 pound loss this morning even in this ‘kind of testing out this new diet’ phase. I know that is the typical first week thing and that will not continue. Will still not start officially until day 15, but at least I have identified what parts of the diet are going to be hard for me to follow. However, it is a boost for me to know the energy I put into this will pay off. Will need another 5 pounds before I'm into new number territory, then I will get excited.

onebyone; Yes, that salt can be so bad. Luckily it doesn’t stay long and will flush out along with that water it holds. I envy you having access to a pool! I hate to sweat (heck who does) and swimming works for that. Hope that and the gym go well for you. Great insight on the 21 day habits, I’ve wondered about that too.

Eusebius; way to go on the 4 pounds!!!

Nuxmaga; Yeah (or whoopie!) for tossing that second half of the junk. I confess to biting into a Funny Bone recently, only to realize it tasted nothing like I remember as a kid. Tasted synthetic and waxy. Had a moment of thinking what do I do, then convinced myself it was NOT disgusting to spit it into the trash, so I did.

RobinW; So hard to watch your kids making choices you know are not good (I see it in mine too). Trying to figure out what to do is a good start.

Maryblu; thanks for the perspective of consistency as the winner. I need to remind myself of the obvious over and over again. And I can see by reading the archives that Bill is that proof …

BillBlueEyes; …and kudos to you for posting every day and being an example to those like me just starting out that it can be done.
To me, passing on cookie pieces is a bigger victory than the whole cookie. I’d easily eat way more that way than if I had just taken 1 cookie. Good for you.

Gardenerjoy; Way to go on the 2xwalking!

JenGM; Very late in this reply – but I used Microsoft Outlook calendar to set up 2 recurring “appointments”. It reminds me twice a day to read my ARC. So far, so good.

Sorry if I missed anyone.


09-07-2009, 08:46 PM
Hello Coaches

A few hours ago I finally took the garbage bag coverings off of that $15 garage sale bike I bought way back in the first week of May. DH and I walked it over to the gas station and put (free! gas station guy it was complimentary air and not the $1 price written on the air pump) air in the tires to see if they actually hold air. I put the wrench in my shoulder bag to adjust the seat if the tires inflated so I could see if I could ride the thing. I asked DH to show me how to use the air pump and how to know when it's full enough. "By feel," was the answer. There are no gauges or anything on it. So once it was full enough I walked it around the corner to try it out. The seat wouldn't come down so it was way too high for me but I hopped on anyway to see what would happen. DH reminded me it was like riding a bicycle afterall... So the front tire went way way down. 277lbs is a lot of weight even for a fat tire to carry. I just felt like crying seeing it go down so low. Is this even good to ride a bike where the tire goes so flat? DH thought maybe we needed more air in it? Anyway I rode for a minute or two, enough to realize that this bike is way bouncy. It has a giant spring under the seat and on the front shocks. There is no bar that follows down under the seat--it's open. It's really a trick riding bike or something. I actually love that but it'll take some practice to get a feel for it. I'm now thinking the next time I get a rental car I'll drop it off at the local high school where they tune bikes up for high school credits. I think it costs $30 but they give it a complete overhaul and this bike needs that. I think it deserves that as do I.

So why the attention to the bike now? Well even though walking over to the rec centre to swim is at most a 10 min walk, it'd be a 3 min ride. I know me. Any excuse not to go and dreading the walk to and from would be an excuse I would use. But riding would be fun, and fast.

CREDIT MOI for getting started with the bike.

09-07-2009, 10:44 PM
Hi All,
14,000+ steps, credit. That should make up for Zumba!! I was disappointed to realize that my schedule this week has events on Wed and Fri, so no Zumba for me until Monday. But I did find a belly dancing class to register for--that's exciting! Tracked food, credit. Left food on the plate at the diner this morning--I asked for one egg scrambled, and they just poured a big ladle on the grill. It looked like 3 eggs! I mentioned it to the waitress, and she said it's just the egg fluffing up. Hah! I don't think it's fluff.

Onebyone--My therapist was just talking about neural pathways last week. He said that our new pathways are in addition to the old ones. We don't eradicate the old ones. This doesn't mean we can't change, just that the old learning wants to pop up on occasion. And by practicing new skills, we can do quite a bit of remodeling of our brain, which gives us the tools to disregard any remnants of the old pathways when they do reappear.

09-07-2009, 11:59 PM
A quiet day that included some food prep to set up a good week -- watermelon sorbet for healthy desserts, a loaf of multigrain bread in the bread machine, and a pot of beans that DH made into vegetarian refritos. We had enchiladas tonight and he'll have his favorite snack all week.

WI: -0.15kgs (new low), Exercise: +50, 319/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

Nuxmaga: belly dance sounds like fun!

onebyone: I think you're really getting something here. Thanks for writing it out for us. Since I read the books in the opposite order from you, your perspective is really helping me. Good work with the bicycle!

BillBlueEyes: good job on the encounters with cookies and on planning your rest days around the gym schedule.

eusebius: congrats on the 4 pounds gone!

Kim in NH: Love how you are working through the book. Snacks were a big deal for me, too. But it works and I find I really am enjoying even the snacks better when I sit down at the table and eat them. I also lost the first few pounds very quickly and then I went 11-days of circling around the same number, but I'm losing again now, so you are right to be cautiously optimistic and patient about this.

kuhljeanie: continuing to send healing thoughts and energies your way.

09-08-2009, 01:30 AM
Coaches/Buddies: Hello old friends, sorry I have not been around for so long. Hello new friends, I look forward to meeting you.
My life continues to be a rollercoaster ride as I am still in the process of my divorce, have met a wonderful man and started a relationship with him, am about to move in about a month, coming up on the 1 year anniversary of my brother's death, etc., etc.

Through all of this I have done quite well, but my weight has continued to creep back up (I think my lowest weight has been 122 and right at this very moment, weighing myself at night, with pj's on and about to start my period, I'm 130) and my self-esteem is starting to sink a bit.

So here I am, not letting things spin out of control and coming back to the tools I know work for me.

Oh and I just want to give myself credit for a couple of things:

Quit smoking 4 days ago (this was a habit I picked back up over the past 3 months or so) :broc:

I'm here :broc:

BillBlueEyes: I thank you for continuing to be here, sharing your struggles and triumphs, it helps to know that even though I've been away, some things have remained the same! Congratulations to you for your continued insight (the broken cookie thing is interesting, I might be in the same club.)

eusebius: I don't believe I've "met" you before. 4lbs is 4lbs- congratulations for that!

onebyone: Congratulations for still being here and plugging away! Oh and I'm 35 and have that same problem with the middle TOM (ovulation for me)-- sometimes I swear it's worse than PMS :( Good for you for setting yourself some basic realistic goals and I hope that worked well for you.
Huge kudos for all your work (emotionally and physically) getting out the bike, etc. That's awesome!

Kim in NH: Hello from another Kim :D I can relate a lot to what you said about this book being different than anything else you've read. I was amazed at how she so seems to get what I'm thinking. How many times she talks about not just skipping the exercises, but actually doing them, etc.
Congrats on the 5lbs, even if it's typical first week stuff! Also, so glad you found this group- it's incredible!

Nuxmaga: Yours is another new name to me, so nice to meet you!
Credit to you for the 14,000 steps- that's great (I'm usually pretty happy when I meet my 10,000 goal for the day and that's with working out) A couple of my co-workers take Zumba classes and one of these days I'm going to try it!
Very interesting info. about the neural pathways. I know I'm experiencing some of my "old" pathways rearing their ugly heads lately. I'm back here to give my new ones a boost.

gardenerjoy: Hello to another new name for me. So, I'm very curious as to how you make your watermelon sorbet. I've got a huge whole watermelon sitting on my counter that needs to be cut. Good for you for the food prep, that's so key! Oh and congratulations for the new low :)

09-08-2009, 06:51 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Spent the day in the sun walking about. Lots of ducks and shorebirds moving south for the winter to be admired. Two Peregrine Falcons kept a bunch of smaller birds feeling uneasy. A fine day in fine weather catching up with an old friend. CREDIT moi for being aware of enjoying Labor Day.

Cooked up a big batch of chili - half for lunches this week over broccoli slaw, half frozen for a future week; CREDIT moi. Had to ask DW for the chili recipe. Got the rolling eyeballs while she rummaged around and handed me her three favorites. Such fun; I simply chose the ingredients that I like best from all three. And welcomed the excuse to walk to the supermarket to get a jalapeno pepper, green bell pepper, and cilantro. She sniffed at my plan to use all red bell peppers since I buy them by the bag because they are too sweet for the proper taste of chili.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - I hope that the long weekend provided some quiet time for healing. Continue to send supportive thoughts.

onebyone - Yep, Kudos for dumping those bits of "nameless" in the bin. But Super Kudos for getting out the bike. My take is that you need more air in the tires - they can take a whole lot - a tire pressure gauge isn't expensive. Under inflated tires will flatten when anybody gets on, obviously the more weight the more squash. Just put in more air. Tire are too insignificant to be allowed to trigger negative body image stuff. Around here I've seem some very large people on bikes, particularly remembering one woman sitting tall looking very proud tooling down the bike path.

Erika (eusebius) - Yay for relaxing and fun on Labour Day. Yep, Kudos for skipping junk when the blood sugar is calling.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Welcome back; good to hear from you again. Kudos that you have "done quite well" even as your life has rollercoaster'ed about. Yay for a new relationship. Sending warm thoughts for the anniversary of your brother's death.

And thanks for the kind words. It's so good to have you in the Broken Cookie Club - I thought I was the only weirdo who'd do that.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - LOL that a mound of eggs is just "fluff." Kudos for leaving some on your plate; that's still a hard one for me. You remind me that I could practice that using Beck's exercise of serving myself more than I plan to eat at home where the food will be saved and I don't have the starving-children-in-Africa syndrome at work. Interesting that the brain creates new pathways instead of replacing old ones. Those little buggers remain lurking to pop up when we're not paying attention - perhaps the way very old stuff pops up in dreams.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Kudos for the food prep; I, too, would like the recipe for watermelon sorbet. I miss buying the large watermelons my family would buy when there were always a bunch of kids around. Yay for all that food prep; neat thinking that we were both cooking up stuff for the week ahead at the same time.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Boy do I remember thinking, "okay, this is easy" then catching myself doing the opposite of what Beck is saying. Thanks for the reminder, "I will continue to read and thoroughly explore every word of this book and not assume anything."

Readers - Get Ready: Lay the Groundwork

The time you put into getting ready will help you to:
. . .
• Remain motivated to follow your diet, even when you experience intense cravings.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-08-2009, 09:23 AM
Morning Coaches -

Was up very early today, but went straight to weights (credit!) Today is DD's first day of Grade 1 and we dropped her off in before-school care before 8 AM to get her used to it (normally I work out of town on Tuesdays, but it doesn't start until next week).

Yesterday was a very tough day emotionally. Big CREDIT - i had a couple of extra 2-point snacks during the afternoon, but I Did. Not. Binge. Instead I had a nap and listened to Pema Chödrön for a while - DH took DD to the park. I felt all peaceful, but then I realized that DH was at the end of his tether as DD had had a tantrum at the park. Everything just spiralled downward as DD continued to refuse to listen, etc. and DH got more & more upset. By 9 PM I was ready to go to the store for chips. I even headed as far as the shoe mat before I said to myself - No! I will not do this! It took a lot of positive self-talk, but I got through the night without eating any more.

onebyone - love the Labour Day icon. Good job using CBT techniques to deal with scale fluctuations. Salt, salt, salt ... Love the new avatar BTW. And yes big credit for getting going on the bike!!

Kim - Awesome statement about not assuming anything. I have been forcing myself to read every sentence carefully as well. Great job on your 5 lbs!!

Nuxmaga - Great job on steps and leaving eggs on the plate!

gardenerjoy - Nice work on the healthy food prep! (Homer Simpson voice:) Mmm... enchiladas ...

bennyhannahmama - Welcome back and great to meet you! Fabulous that you have quit smoking, and kudos for choosing such healthy ways to meet the ups & downs of your life right now.

Bill -Sounds like you really made the most of Labo(u)r Day. Kudos for getting the chili prepared for the week!

Well, now it's 8:20 and my workout is done, and DD is already at school! Unbelievable! I can actually have some quiet coffee & knitting time, wahoo! Happy Tuesday all.

09-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Coaches/Buddies: It's amazing to me how right this all feels. Last night I wrote in my journal (haven't done that in a long time), this morning I woke up early, journaled some more, read my daily mediation books and just came back from a run in the rain (I forgot how much I enjoy running in the rain!) This all feels so good, I really want to keep at it!
So far today:

Weighed :broc:
Eating breakfast mindfully and slowly :broc:
Went for a run :broc:
Checked in here :broc:
Gave myself credit :broc:

BillBlueEyes: I love how aware you are and how you gave yourself credit for being aware of enjoying the day :D Chili yummm! Oh yeah, you're not alone in the Broken Cookie Club, but mine extends to crackers and sometimes chips :smug:

eusebius: Congratulations on not binging and all the positive self-talk that kept you from going to the store for the chips. You have inspired me, thank you!

Kim in NH
09-08-2009, 10:17 PM

Starting with Credits today; Exercised for 60 minutes - Set up a calorie counting program. I want to start off tracking and will decide later when I can stop based on progress.- Stayed on my pre-diet plan.

Tomorrow am labwork, mainly for cholesterol. Bringing breakfast, snack, lunch, and the bike with me for the river ride afterwards. Keep forgetting I have a gym membership, but will get back to that when the weather gets cold. These dry, cooler days are perfect for anything outdoors.

Bennyhannahmama; welcome back! And big congrats on giving up smoking :cp:

Eusebius; way to go on a really tough night. I remember well the “spiraling downward” when my boys were younger. Good for you staying strong, not giving in to the chip trip.

BillBlueEyes; nice that you took time to enjoy the day and got to see those falcons. I missed seeing a moose on our property when I didn’t join the boys for a blackberry picking walk. We are starting to hear the Barred owls here again at night – which I can enjoy if our beagle doesn’t join them. Chili sounds good – never thought of adding cilantro (not sure why, I add it to everything else) but will try that next time.

Gardenerjoy; How nice to get some food prepared for the week. Now that the weather is cooling off I’m looking forward to batch cooking. Watermelon sorbet…now I’d love to know how you make that, too.:T

Nuxmaga; Good for you not cleaning the generous egg plate, that’s a new one – fluffing up. I’m impressed with your daily steps – I was up to 10K before I messed up my ankle. I’m back down to 4-6K, but I’m still wearing the pedometer every day (habit now). Great that you can find alternatives while Zumba is unavailable.

OnebyOne; Hope you can get some more air into those tires and enjoy yourself on that bike. A few times out and it will not seem so awkward and bouncy. :bike:

Off to get things ready for the morning,


09-08-2009, 11:23 PM
I tried an experiment today with a planned ice cream cone. Since I only go to the dairy once every couple of weeks, I though that might be one treat I could still have without it triggering my foraging behavior. It seemed to work. I enjoyed it and continued sticking with my plan for the rest of the day.

WI: -0.85kgs (new low), Exercise: +52, 371/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

bennyhannahmama: nice to meet you! I use an ice cream freezer for sorbet (one of those new kinds with the gel in the freezer bowl). The recipe is simple -- 2 cups of fruit puree, 1/4 cup of something sweet (I used a mix of unfiltered honey and agave nectar yesterday, but even artificial sweeteners would work) and a 1/4 cup of egg whites (which are optional, but make the texture nicer). I use my blender to make the fruit puree because it has measurements on the side. 1 quart of strawberries makes about 2 cups of puree, but with watermelon I just keep throwing in chunks and pureeing until I get about two cups.

BillBlueEyes: how did the chili turn out? We use all red peppers in our chili, but we roast them first. DH insists that green peppers aren't ripe yet, which is actually true but I like them anyway.

eusebius: so sorry you had a rough day yesterday. Good for you for not bingeing and for working so hard at it. I imagine that built some new neural pathways!

Kim in NH: yay for your credits! You did great!

kuhljeanie: thinking of you!

Walking Princess
09-09-2009, 01:13 AM

I'm back! We had a great trip this weekend, it was so much fun! I did really well with my eating. I split every single meal with someone. The only bad thing was for lunch one day when we were in the park and it was like 95 degrees out and we were hot, hungry and tired. Little Man couldn't agree with us on what to eat. Finally dh said we are going here end of story. It was chicken nuggetts and fries. Ugh. I haven't eaten fried food in ages and it did not make my tummy feel good afterwards :barf:. I made sure I left a little bit of each item so I didn't eat the whole thing. Plus we did a TON of walking so that was great - I think I got PLENTY of exercise, lol.

Anyway, I'm really, really tired. We got in late last night and then Little Man had a bad dream so I was up with him for a while so I didn't sleep too well last night. I'm going to go to bed now even though it's only 9:10pm

HOpe everyone is doing well. I was op today even though I did like the spoon clean twice (thinking of you Bill!)

Good night,

09-09-2009, 06:44 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - My chili over broccoli slaw was really yummy, CREDIT moi, combined with some particularly strong leftover kale. Just remembering that part of staying on plan for me is having a lunch that I'm looking forward to rather than one that I'm reluctantly eating since I'm on a diet.

Took a good long walk after work, CREDIT moi, noticing that I passed right by Whole Foods without feeling the urge to go in and "forage for treats" - I love that phrase. I'll take one day without that urge with pleasure even if I'm reluctant to think it's gone away for good. I only need to stay on plan; don't need to reach nirvana.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Continue to think of you.

Erika (eusebius) - Kudos for going to the mat but pulling yourself up with positive self-talk (so that's where that expression comes from). And Kudos for "Did. Not. Binge." in response to a rough day. Yay for Pema Chödrön.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Yay for running in the rain and feeling life. Kudos for all those dancing broccoli - just love the look of your page.

Kara (Walking Princess) - Yay for "TONS" of walking in 95 degrees. Ouch for fired lunch but Kudos for leaving portions. And Kudos for going to bed at 9:10; sleep's gotta come from somewhere. LOL at licking the spoon.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Yay for a treat without it triggering your "foraging behavior." Kudos for that. Thanks for the sorbet recipe; I haven't replaced my old clunker ice cream maker from the sixties - your account of watermelon sorbet make me want to act on that. The chili was superb. I didn't think of roasted red peppers; bet they are yummy in chili.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Yay for hearing Barred Owls at night - we never get those in the city although DW was waken by a Screech Owl last week. LOL at your Beagle joining in - perhaps reverting to a nocturnal hunter. Good luck with your lab work; Kudos for bringing you bike for the river ride while the weather is so appealing.

Readers - Get Ready: Lay the Groundwork

The time you put into getting ready will help you to:
. . .
• Be more conscious of every bite you eat.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-09-2009, 09:07 AM
Good Morning Coaches

credit I weighed in once today and yesterday: 273.8 and today 271.4
And Wed are my official weigh-in's so I am 271.4 this week. Huzzah!

I spent yesterday morning cleaning in the ceramic room at school and will spend this morning doing the same so this will be short. Class starts at 1pm in there today. I have a few tidying-up duties to do: mopping, vacuuming, sponging down dusty surfaces.

Once done at school it was movie day. We saw Extract, a quiet movie about a very boring character which really caught my curiosity. DH said that film would have been better if it was centered more on any of the other more iteresting characters that the one they picked. I liked it for the same reason. Weird cinematic choice. Interesting.

Once home I got my lease out and walked over to the rec centre, it was open, and got myself signed up for the free swimming pool access and noticed no one was in there at 8pm. I asked the guy if that was usual and he said yes. I said, "Great." Then I asked him about having courses upstairs how you'd do that (submit a proposal to the rec building manager) and when I said I was an art teacher his face lit up. huh. Go figure. He seemed to think it'd be a great a idea cause the sapce is never used. Maybe I can change that?! hmmm.

Anyway, swimming tonight. And my bike tires are still inflated so they hold air. I'll get a tire gauge today (thanks BBE) and get the bike in order. I need some DW40 most of all.

I bought Brain Rules yesterday. Wow. GREAT book. The first chapter on exercise and the brain? FANTASTIC. Worth the price of thebook right there for me. Thanks to those of you in this forum who mentioned that book more than once over the last year or so. I was "meaning to read that" for many months before actually buying it. (wrdanne I think this means you... a Big Hello to you out there!)

Okay a bite to eat and I'm off. I'll check back later. Enjoy your day today.


09-09-2009, 09:50 AM

09-09-2009, 10:03 AM
Morning Coaches -

I am into this getting up early thing. Got up at 6 today to go out and walk. Nice to have it done and it feels fabulous to get endorphins even before coffee. Meanwhile both DD and DH are procrastinating, but if they're late for school they can't pin it on me ;)

bennyhannahmama (Kim) - Big kudos for all the great stuff you did yesterday, and glad to hear you're feeling great. It's a great wave to ride.

Kim in NH - Great job with exercise and calorie planning!

gardenerjoy - Nice work with the planned ice cream cone and congrats on the new low in weight!

Kara - Welcome back and great job with your meal-sharing plan while away!

Bill - Totally agree about having meals you can look forward to. It's a lifetime thing, right? Credit for not equating treats at Whole Foods with Nirvana, LOL!

onebyone - Congrats on the loss!! How awesome to have an empty swimming pool all to yourself.

wndranne - :wave: back :lol:


09-09-2009, 10:21 AM
my wonderful friends, thank you so much for keeping us in your thoughts. i need/needed it. have been having the craziest conversations with myself about how i’ve been feeling. know it’s healthy to grieve and i need to do it, intellectualizing it anyway and then being surprised at how sad i am, trying to stuff it with chocolate cake and sushi, feeling disappointed and sort of glad cake doesn’t work anymore but the prescribed painkillers do. not going there. still having some physical pain but not enough to justify taking them today. the doc called this morning with the results of the second blood test – HCG levels dropping as one would expect. we’re going to start trying again right away. it’s the only way i can see myself moving forward, especially considering my “advanced maternal age.” ugh.

job thing is still sketchy, still no action on the house. and i’m thinking, come ON, universe! what the **** is going on this year? is there some lesson or message i’m not getting? do we have any intuitive mystic beckies who can help me figure out if i’m supposed to be doing something else, and that’s why everything feels so hard right now?

gotta go count my blessings and take a walk. i promise personals will come…i’m reading everyone’s posts and smiling and cheering.

09-09-2009, 11:33 AM
Jeanie, I dont have any words of wisdom or explanations. Just "Believe"! "Believe" that everything will happen when and why it is suppose to. :hug:

Im finding myself getting on the pc, getting to work....working to get it all done so I can get the heck out of here! Hopefully today I'll be out by noon! :crossed:

Ive cut my pc time down everywhere else too. Its just all too much sometimes. Im also finding it hard to get in here to post as well.

On to the positive stuff! Ive found an online personal training type website. I am going to give them a go. Probably starting on saturday. The gym is relatively quiet on saturdays and I can putz around the machines with my papers and I wont be holding anyone up.

Food is ok

Exercise isnt there (one gym visit doesnt count much)....does curtain shopping with hubby count? Another reno project that we kinda agreed on :dizzy:

.........Im working it, just need to also focus it!

Have a great day everyone!

09-09-2009, 02:33 PM
Coaches/Buddies: It's amazing how a day can start off so well and then quickly go down hill :( It wasn't a bad day, just VERY stressful. BUT, I did not stress eat :broc:

So far today I have:

weighed :broc:
read advantages cards :broc:
checked in here :broc:
giving myself credit :broc:

Today is another busy stressful day, so I'm really hoping to just stay on top of everything.

Kim in NH: Sounds like you are on track and setting up a good plan. Congrats for the 60 minutes of exercise :carrot:

gardenerjoy: Good for you for trying a planned treat and I'm glad to hear it went well! I think the planned part is what helps tremendously in keeping things from spinning out of control (at least that's been my experience in the past.) Thanks for the info. on the sorbet. After I asked you, I realized that you probably have one of those machines. My mom is actually giving me one she has when I go back to NY next week, but for now I'll have a bunch of watermelon to eat quickly :)

Walking Princess: I was around awhile ago and just came back, so it's nice to "meet" you :) Congratulations on what sounds like a very successful trip! I know what you mean about fried food, that happens to me too. I think it feels so good to know my body doesn't tolerate it anymore though!

BillBlueEyes: Thanks for the encouragement and I need to give you some dancing broccoli:

Long walk after work :broc:
Not being tempted to go into Whole Foods :broc:

onebyone: Now thank you for mentioning that book, I will add it to my list; it sounds like a great book!
Congrats on the good weigh-in numbers :)

wndranne: :wave: right back at ya' :)

Okay, I'll be back later (hopefully) for some more personals.

Kim in NH
09-09-2009, 08:17 PM
Coaches/Buddies; 30 min bike ride – credit. Brought my oatmeal in a thermos, and my salad. Ate the oatmeal in the car then during the bike ride found a bend in the river with a tree and nice sitting spot. Couldn’t believe I didn’t think of finding a spot to eat other than the car. :doh:Rode back to the car and jury-rigged my supplies onto the rack (what – no bungees?) and returned to have a relaxing lunch. Even brought the book and sure enough – day 5 is eating slowly and mindfully – which I did - credit. Had a planned piece of dark choc. Not long ago I would have eaten the whole bar. Found the 1/3 was just enough and didn’t trigger anything (only brought the 1/3 with me anyhow) but still…credit.

BillBlueEyes; Funny how a bringing a good lunch can be a little ray of sunshine. Good for you knowing staying on plan w/urges is as good as staying on plan w/o.

WalkingPrincess; It’s a very small world, Kara. I am on the LIG team at the walk club –realized today why your name looked so familiar! I think I keep missing you here, maybe we have been posting on alternate days. Anyhow, sounds like your trip was great, and happy anniversary!!

Bennyhannahmama; good for you for not letting 2 stressful days turn into something bigger. :cheer2:

RobinW; Good luck with the personal training. Nice that you can go to the gym when it is not crowded, especially if you’re trying to follow a new routine and do it right.

Kuhljeanie; It’s good to hear from you and know that you are taking time to mend. Sounds like your plate is full right now, hope you can find a way to take one day at a time…and focus on all the good things you have in your life.

Eusebius; Your enthusiasm for mornings is catching. Never been a morning person, but thinking of trying harder. DS #1 has to be at the bus stop at 6:30, so I’m up at 5:50. I got to thinking about coffee and knitting since you mentioned that, two things I don’t usually do until evening. :coffee2:

OnebyOne; Congrats on the loss and the possibility of a pool all to yourself – how nice! :goodscale

If any of you missed this, Judith Beck now has a newsletter. You can subscribe on her website.

Had a link direct to newsletter #1, but won't let me post it here. It's there on her site, but I remember having to look around for it.


09-09-2009, 09:26 PM
This is just a quick fly-by for tonight. We had a great weekend. DH's new dock was a big hit, we were out there quite a bit, including bonfires until midnight. (not bad for a bunch of old foggies...) We took my Mom to the botanical gardens yesterday (she took lots of pics) and out for lobster on Monday (yum!)

I exercised less than I'd like, but did fine. I ate very well most of the time, but ate too many snacks every evening...

Today, I'm back on-plan for both food and exercise, and plan to keep up the habit the rest of the week.

Hello to returning friends (bennyhannamamma) and :hug: to Jeanie. :wave: to everyone else; I have my piano lesson tomorrow, so I may not get to personals until Friday. :(

09-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Hi Coaches

So no swimming tonight. I am busy updating my course outlines for the continuing education courses I may be teaching in two weeks if they have sufficient enrollment. The outlines were on my lkaptop hardrived which died and DH and I went to the computer store to get the cable he needed to dump the drive onto his computer.
Old School Solution.
Seems laptop hardrives get swapped out enough that there's a $15 thing you push your hard drive into, a case wiht connectors and voila! Instant disk recovery and external hard drive. I am both amazed that it was so easy and horrified that there's a solution for that. Anyway... I love my outlines! So grateful to have them and this BRAND NEW NETBOOK! So cute! So small! So cheap and MY 1st computer that I bought for myself.

Tomorrow I meet my brother downtown early in the morning and we are driving up to my mother's to help clean the house and give support to my sister and my mom. My mother could be moving into the senior care apartment on the 15th, maybe, it's not clear but it's soon if not exactly then.
Coaches, I plan to swim tomorrow night. Don't let me off the hook.

All the best to you all... kuhljeanie you have been going through a rough year. Some years are like that. Just keep moving one step ahead of the other... all things change and this too shall pass.:hug:

09-10-2009, 01:13 AM
I messed up my schedule and managed to get to the grocery and Whole Foods hungry today. The only thing that kept me from the kettle corn sample at WF was that I was chewing gum. I didn't do that on purpose, but I might next time.

WI: +0.4kgs, Exercise: +55, 426/1200 minutes for September, Food: op

Walking Princess: welcome back! Good job on splitting meals on vacation.

BillBlueEyes: good job building up that resistance muscle!

onebyone: hurray for the scale going down! The empty pool sounds nice -- hope it's fun! Looking forward to hearing about it tomorrow night! Thanks for mentioning Brain Rules. I hadn't heard of that so I just put it on request at the library.

eusebius: way to go on the early morning walks and yay for starting out the day with endorphins

kuhljeanie: great to see your wagon back again! My intuition for you says this is a year to concentrate on eating well and exercise. And that you are doing everything you are supposed to do and being exactly who you are meant to be. Did you know that Jennifer Louden (of Comfort Queen fame) declared this to be Freedom from Self Improvement week? It's on her blog! Really glad to see you're up to posting again. Give your self plenty of time and space to just let this work itself through.

RobinW: Cool on the personal trainer thing. I'll be interested to hear how it works for you!

bennyhannahmama: Good job on not stress-eating and all your other reasons for dancing broccoli!

Kim in NH: great job on working with the book! And thanks for the newsletter tip!

ChinaMaine: glad the dock is working out, especially after you sacrificed your shoulders! Bonfires sound fun!

09-10-2009, 06:32 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - At our weekly meeting, the food pusher brought in home make dark spice muffins (are muffins exactly the same thing we called cup cakes when we had them in kindergarten?) which were a bit tempting until another guy whipped out a large container of strawberries and blueberries. CREDIT moi for handfuls of good fruit during a work meeting.

Busy after work with DW so missed my gym; Oh Well.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Indeed it's healthy to grieve; we've been through this and were amazed how little support came from the medical community - thank goodness for friends. Alas, the Universe sends no message, but is inclined to stack thinks up a bit from time to time. Clearly it's your time. Hope things start to sort themselves out a bit. Maybe since Hubble is seeing things so clearly after long delays you can take that as a sign from the Universe that you'll see things clearly soon.

onebyone - Yay for tires that hold air. Kudos for getting the swim pass - kinda exciting that you might really set up an art course. Thanks for the reminder about Brain Rules - I put it on my Amazon shopping list. I do like one quote from the first review, "There is a biological need for an afternoon nap."

Robin (RobinW) - Good news on the personal trainer - hope that works out for you. Have the frat boys showed up yet?

Anne (wndranne) - Waving back. Hope there's some cool air in the desert for your bike rides.

ChinaMaine - What a weekend: botanical gardens, lobster, and midnight bonfires on the dock. Kudos for living.

Erika (eusebius) - Yay for those morning endorphins. There's nothing like procrastinating in the morning rather than racing out for the treadmill.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Ouch for a day downhill, but Kudos for not trying to stress-eat your way out of it. Thanks for my own dancing broccoli.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Chewing gum while in Whole Foods is a genius idea, Kudos, even if it was a sub-conscious strategy.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Kudos for the stellar demo of day 5: Eat Slowly and Mindfully. Like the notion of a thirty minute bike ride and eating under a tree. Yay for planned dark chocolate.

Readers - Get Ready: Lay the Groundwork

The time you put into getting ready will help you to:
. . .
• Increase your satisfaction during and after meals so you're less likely to reach for second helpings.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-10-2009, 07:35 AM
Hello Coaches

credit one step on the scale for my weigh in: 272.4

Just about to head out to meet my brother downtown in front of his DW's place of work so we both go out to help clean my mom's house. I'm nervous about this-a bit in knots you know? It's going to be emotional for sure.
Oh Well.
I've had emotions. I'll live. And I will remind myself that eating tons of off plan food will not make things better. It'll make things worse as my recent battle with 275 is not something I want to willingingly repeat! I don't need to add emotion to emotion you know?

I look forward to swimming tonight--or just sitting in the jacuzzi if I am tired and sore from the day.

Everyone have a great Thursday if you can :wave:

09-10-2009, 09:36 AM
Morning Coaches -

Starting to see the scale inch down again - yay! OP again yesterday and strength workout done for today. Lots of practising done yesterday also, though it never seems like enough somehow, Oh Well.

I have been reading quite a bit online about a concept called Nonviolent Communication. It's about non-coercive ways to get needs met, and looking at people you communicate with (in my case, children!) as human beings who have needs rather than as inferiors/dependents that you want to behave in a certain way. Has anyone had any experience with this? I really think it may make my relationship with my DD easier ... she is very spirited and loves to argue!

kuhljeanie - :hug: Hang in there my friend. I'm not an intuitive mystic, but I do think that these times when loads of crap are dumped upon us can be used for learning and transformation ... not that it's easy or fun ... but you will come out the other end. I've been reading a lot of Eckhart Tolle lately ... don't know if that would help you but it might be worth a try.

Robin - I don't blame you one bit for cutting down PC time - it can really interfere with real life. Cool about the website - looking forward to hearing how it goes!

Kim (bennyhannahmama) - Great job avoiding the stress eating on a stressful day!!

Kim in NH - Great job with the bike ride!! Also kudos for the successful experiment with dark chocolate.

ChinaMaine - :wave: Glad you had a great weekend. Enjoy your piano lesson!

onebyone - Congrats on the netbook! Fun times. Hope your CE enrollment is large enough! Hope the cleanout of your mom's place isn't too stressful :hug:

gardenerjoy - Ouch, I hate going to the grocery store hungry. chewing gum = brilliant idea.

Bill - I think many times the difference between muffins & cupcakes is more one of perception than of reality, LOL. Great job sticking to fruit!

OK time to get DD to school. I didn't yell at her! credit, LOL.


09-10-2009, 10:55 AM
Coaches/Buddies: One thing that I definitely lost track of when I wasn't officially "following" BDS was my licks, tastes and nibbles. It's amazing how many times in the past couple of days (since getting myself back on track), I have caught myself about to take a spoonful of this or that and then stopped because I remembered that I am not doing that anymore and I need to track exactly what I'm putting in my mouth. I bet most of my weight gain over the past few months has been due to those licks, tastes and nibbles! So this has been a huge eye-opener for me. :broc:

Yesterday was an extremely difficult day for me emotionally and stress-wise. Just a hectic day at work, then realized it was exactly a year from the day my brother had his surgery (which ultimately led to his death five days later) and it finally hit me that he's really gone. It was good to shed some much needed tears, but still tough.

Went to a meet-the-teacher event for my daughter's 3rd grade class and realized that she's the only child in the class (I think) that has divorced parents. There was a sheet the teacher had typed up with all the kids names and phone numbers and my daughter hand-wrote in on all the sheets her name for a 2nd time with her dad's phone number-- I almost burst out crying right then and there :( Then more crap from my ex after the school function. I was about ready to explode and I really wanted a cigarette but that is NOT an option, so... I went for a run!!! It's so nice that exercise is once again my go-to habit for when I'm stressed. I didn't realize that using the smoking to calm me actually eliminated my desire to exercise, it's really nice to have it back. :broc:
So, that was kind of my day in a nut-shell, thanks for listening to me vent!

So far today:

Weigh in :broc:
Checked in here :broc:
Read advantages deck :broc:
Gave myself credit :broc:

Hopefully I'll time for some personals later!

09-10-2009, 10:56 AM
so yesterday, i stopped by the cincinnati house to get something out of the basement. recall that this is the basement i dropped $2500 for waterproofing (the last dollars i had in in my equity LOC, to spend, period). imagine my surprise when i discovered it was covered in several inches of rainwater. i called the guy who did the work (he’ll fix it as soon as he can get to it), called my agent, and then learned that some couple had scheduled a third showing for yesterday afternoon and it was too late to cancel so they wouldn’t have to see a lake in the basement of a house they were thinking of buying (i use the past tense on purpose.) this was when i finally lost it. whatever i’m being punished for, i’m sorry. i try to be a good mom and wife, and a good friend, and i pay my taxes and eat my veggies and try to keep the house reasonably clean. i work hard at my job even though i’m reasonably sure they’ll drop me as soon as they determine that it’ll be too hard to get me on a billable assignment again. i had even saved a bunch of money for retirement like i was supposed to. good thing i did…i may need it to pay my mortgage before long.

all i want to do is be able to go somewhere i can cry without calling too much attention to myself, but i’m sitting in a cube farm on the corner where everyone walks past me when they go to the cafeteria. no one here knows i miscarried – can’t even imagine how that would affect my future prospects here.

the one thing keeping me from saying that it couldn’t get any worse, is that i know that it could. DH and el nino are both healthy, and DH still has a job. the car is working. i can’t think of much else right now but those are good things, right?

maybe eckhardt tolle has some ideas for me…

thanks guys, again. i’m glad i have you all!!! i hate whining and sounding like i sound. my keeping things in perspective and looking on the bright side muscle is completely fatigued. i'm tired of all this. and oh yeah, i'm up 4 lbs. don't have the heart to change my sig.

09-10-2009, 09:07 PM
It was my first full day back to work. Work was uneventful, except that my new project seems to be quite disorganized. I’ve scheduled several meetings with my PM to discuss timeline and what my role/activities will be over the next month or so. He’s accepted the meeting several times, but never showed up. I sit on the phone for 10 – 15 minutes in the vain hope he’ll ever show up and tell me what he expects from me. Grrrr…

Food has been great today. I’m on plan for calories, etc. When I had my yearly physical yesterday, my doc told me about a new bakery in the area that is entirely gluten free. I went and skipped the fresh baked goods – just calories I don’t need. But I haven’t had ravioli since I was diagnosed with celiac and she sold a cheese ravioli. I bought 2 bags and we had one tonight. DH made a delicious marinara to go over the ravioli. It was a real treat to have ravioli again. She usually has spinach ravioli too, so I’ll get that next time!

Exercise was good too. I did the upper body workout for the second time this week, with no tiredness at all. I’m only using 3 lb weights for now. (I had been using 5 lbs weights in the 15 minute workout.) Next week I’ll add in the elliptical 4 times a week and see how that goes. Hopefully I’ll be back to my old routine in the very near future. :)

:df: WI-down .9 lbs. Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (47m).

My piano lesson was fun today too. I was learning to play lead sheets (like a guitarist would) - playing the same tune with 'regular' chords and broken ones. Really interesting. and for my next lesson I'm learning a cool Spanish tune. It's a nice way to take my mind off of crazy project-land...

09-10-2009, 09:57 PM
Icky tummy day today -- very unusual for me. I ate off plan and cautiously.
That proved to be a little bit of problem late in the day when I was feeling better. I had a reasonable snack because I was hungry, but had to leave the kitchen in order not to just keep eating -- it's much easier when I'm following a plan. If it weren't obvious before, days when I don't feel quite my perky self are the hardest to stay in control of my eating.

As a low energy project, I turned my Advantage and Response Cards into scrapbook pages. Index cards seem kind of fiddly to me, so I'm going to see if a notebook to flip through in the morning works better.

Credit for doing yoga on a sick day to continue my exercise habit.

WI: +0.05kgs, Exercise: +30, 456/1200 minutes for September, Food: off plan

BillBlueEyes: good job with fruit instead of cupcake/muffins.

onebyone: oh, you hadn't mentioned the jacuzzi! That sounds great for after a day of sorting and moving stuff. I had the major responsibility of emptying my mother's house after she died. It is emotional! I don't know if you'll have this option, but there were certain things that were really hard to deal with at that time, so I just boxed them up. I still have some of those boxes 4 years later! I'm finding that when I go into those boxes now, they are much easier to deal with than expected. Time heals and all that.

eusebius: yay for op and strength training! I'm glad you are working on ways to deal positively with your spirited daughter. Spirited girls are great! But I never had to parent one and I can see that it would be very trying at times.

bennyhannahmama: hugs as you work through the anniversary issues. Good for you for making exercise your go-to habit. That will work!

kuhljeanie: I don't think it's called whining when it's about a whole lot of crappy stuff coming at you at one time. Plus, if there's any place you should feel free to whine, it's here. Hugs and warm thoughts.

ChinaMaine: yay for on plan food and getting back in the swing of your exercise. I'm doing 10 minutes of arms once a week with 1 pound weights! I'm such a wimp. But they're cute! and pink!

Kim in NH
09-10-2009, 10:30 PM
Buddies/Coaches; Did well with food today. Did a new 30min boot camp type DVD which was challenging for me…I don’t think I am pushing myself hard enough so this one was good for that.

Spent some time today helping my son’s 4th grade teacher set up math activities. She was so appreciative I offered to go in more regularly to help over the school year. It was a nice break in my day and got me out of the kitchen for the afternoon. Our tiny little elementary school will likely close if the population keeps dropping. It went from 5 classes (K-5) to 3 multi-age classes (K/1,2/3, 3/4) in two years.

Kuhljeanie; I don’t know what I would do if everything crashed down on me at once – I probably wouldn’t see any bright side either. I wish I had some encouraging words for you, I hope talking/writing about it helps. Seems unfair to not have a kindred soul at work – hope that you have a better evening at home.

Bennyhannahmama; I agree those little mouthfuls add up and are not part of mindful or sit down eating – great that you’re able to catch that each time. I have to work on that too. Sorry you had a few sad moments yesterday. It sounds like your daughter is a confident little girl if she wrote in the “missing “ info. I can see how that might hit you though.

Eusebius; great that the scale is moving down for you. I am not familiar with that behavior concept, but if it looks like it might work for you than it might be worth a try. Interesting how kids respond to different techniques...or none at all. My oldest was very difficult from age 2-5, got kicked out of preschool on day 2 (yeah we laugh about it now, but I cried for days back then!!) I read a lot of parenting books but we basically fumbled our way through…and with some special ed help and time to grow and learn he did fine. (He is straight A’s now and has a great attitude and outlook) Kids are such little bundles of mystery – by the time you figure a behavior out they shed it and move on to something else.:dizzy:

BillBlueEyes; Love the “food pusher” image. Interesting blurred line between cupcakes and muffins. Glad the fruit guy simplified the moment for you!!

Gardenerjoy; Hope the stomach thing is just one day, and yeah the low energy snack drive is a tough one to fight.

ChinaMaine; Great for the new bakery find! How frustrating for someone to think your time is okay to be wasted waiting…

Hope everyone has a great Friday.


09-10-2009, 11:04 PM
:wave: doing ok...but needing to work the program a bit better.

Kudos for not eating any unplanned food! :cb:

09-10-2009, 11:15 PM
Hi All,
A quick check in. Tracked food, credit. Walked 4500+ steps, credit. Did not take bad cookies at work picnic today, yay. Strange eating day with a lot of stress, and eating junk. I'm thinking eating in the car, though technically sitting down, isn't what Beck has in mind. I was eating in the car this morning, and usually it's a sign that I am feeling anxious, and wolfing down snacky things. Sigh.
Well, off to bed.

09-11-2009, 06:33 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - At work the few uneaten homemade muffins showed up at a follow up meeting. Ignoring them was easy; I just thought of them as kindergarten cupcakes, LOL. CREDIT moi.

Worked late but made it to the gym anyway; CREDIT moi. I like my time slot at the gym; the same people are there and the same equipment is available. I hadn't realized before that we were working out as a group since we exchange not a word.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch that it continues to fell like it's stacking up. Wish I could lend you my spare sump pump for the Cincinnati house. We can still get water in our basement when the ground is frozen and a huge rain comes. We've just arranged for a quick exit to prevent the several inches that would love to live there.

Kudos for reminding yourself that you've got your DH and El Nino in your life. As well as your brains, high energy, and can do attitude. Sending you supportive thoughts while it feels that you're digging from so deep.

onebyone - Keen insight, "I've had emotions. I'll live." Reminds me of Beck's Hunger is not an emergency. Hope the cleanup of your mother's house went well and was rewarded with a swim.

Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for avoiding unplanned food and Kudos for checking in.

Anne (wndranne) - Waving toward the whirlwind of busy. Hope you can find time for yourself.

ChinaMaine - Yay for a doctor who prescribes a new bakery instead of a tongue wagging to avoid food. Neat that you've found good ravioli and can avoid the sweets. Looking forward to hearing when you decide to bring the piano to the new dock to play Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata over the lake.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - I think you're right that eating in the car isn't like sitting down. Wonder why Beck didn't stress that in her book. Kudos for avoiding the bad cookies at work.

Erika (eusebius) - Yay for a spirited daughter; Ouch for an argumentative one. Neat idea to pursue Nonviolent Communication. I've found NVC useful in my life for helping me step out of the intensity of a conversation to hear what the other person is saying - including what's behind the words. It works wonders when two people are trying to do it together, but is helpful alone. Great idea for dealing with the emotions triggered by your DD.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Sending supportive thoughts for feeling the loss of your brother and for feeling the impact of your divorce on your DD. Yay for a kid with the fortitude to write in her dad's phone number on every sheet - that's a kid who knows how to deal with life.

Kudos for working the licks, tastes, and nibbles. When I do that the calories don't bother me as much as the attitude that I'm always grubbing for food. It's still hard for me not to lick the spoon I use to serve my lunch to take to work.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Ouch for the icky tummy but Double Ouch that it threw you off plan. Good reminder for me that my routine is part of staying the course. Kudos for getting your Advantage Response Cards into the scrapbook format that's more natural for you. (Mine are a page in the Excel spreadsheet where I track my scale readings.)

Kim (Kim in NH) - Yay for helping out with your DS's math class - that sounds fun to me since I think of ten year olds as pretty neat kids. Kudos for pushing yourself with the exercise.

Readers - Get Ready: Lay the Groundwork

The time you put into getting ready will help you to:
. . .
• Solve problems that have caused you to go off diets in the past.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-11-2009, 08:40 AM
Quick flyby this morning, :hug: to all my Coaches!!
I ate too much last night - a mini-binge triggered by exhaustion. I got through the whole day without yelling at DD which was awesome, and NVC really works, but it threw me for a loop and I got hooked by feeling exhausted. Oh Well ... I definitely see what happened and can learn from it.

kuhljeanie - more :hug: please know that endless empathy and supportive thoughts are coming from this group!! Bloody sewage systems. I hope everything lets up for you soon. I wish I could send you all a prepaid vacation to Hawaii or something.

I'll be in and out this weekend - really looking forward to a Shambhala training workshop in Toronto starting tonight and going all day Saturday. Have a great day!

09-11-2009, 09:12 AM
Coaches/Buddies: It's amazing how being back on track for just a few days has changed how I feel about myself. My stomach has deflated significantly :D, the scale continues to drop (I'm not going to report my change until I've seen the same # for a couple of days) and I feel in control of my life again. I felt all the hard work (physically, emotionally, mentally) that I had done over almost the past year was slipping right through my fingers- that was scary! I reverted back to how I had felt for the years and years before. But now, I remember what it felt like to feel good about myself, in control and comfortable with my body- this is how I want to live!

I'm off to NY today, will be starting the 9.5 hour drive when my daughter gets out of school at 3pm. Hope to check in over the weekend.
Of course, all the families and friends effected by 9-11 will be in my thoughts today; especially my friend Jodie who lost her husband Brian that day.

RobinW: Good to see another familiar name here and now a face to go with the name! Hope all is well in Buffalo :)

Kim in NH: Your bike ride and stopping to read the book sound wonderful! Eating mindfully is definitely one that I struggle with, but boy does it make a difference. Hey, you get full credit on the chocolate, you chose to only take 1/3 with you, you easily could have taken the whole bar!

gardnerjoy: Oh totally been there on going for shopping hungry, that is TOUGH! Glad you had the gum in your mouth and that's a great reminder to me how helpful that is. It's so much more difficult to just unconsciously pop food into your mouth when you've got gum in there, you need to stop and think about it! Gum has also been my friend with quitting smoking. Hey, BillBlueEyes I'm thinking gum would be a big help for Sam's Club or Costco samples :)

BillBlueEyes: Wow, what a victory for you, fruit vs. muffins (or cupcakes)! Perhaps you should make sure to bring fruit to every meeting just in case someone else doesn't pull through :)

Okay, I need to stop there for now, hopefully some more personals later while I'm taking a break from packing for NY :)

Kim in NH
09-11-2009, 08:28 PM
Slipped a bit last night with an unplanned granola bar (a healthy one, but it was not on my agenda and boosted my calories over), then after my planned evening snack of hummus and crackers I had some Chex mix (not on plan, ever) It was just a single serving, but still unplanned. So, even though I am not at the 'Oh well' page in the book, that is what I am thinking. I know that there is a reason why she has you wait 2 weeks to start dieting and I don't have all the skills in place...even when I do there will be those days otherwise I wouldn't need to be here :)
Did very well today with food. Skipped breakfast (really wasn't hungry - not something I do often, but was aware that I might be thinking of the day before) Had an early lunch of soup, then for dinner the crew had roast beef sandwiches and I had a veggie sandwich with homemade pesto and corn on the cob. No exercise today.

Well, I'm making this quick tonight...hope everyone had a great day. :flow2:


09-11-2009, 11:09 PM
Hello Coaches

I'm off to the market in the morning to sell my wares. I do believe this is my last market day spent with my buddy. I've made some decisions and I've decided not to rely on him for transportation so that means I am going to different markets. I am letting him go *sigh*

Credit for one step on the scale and a weight of 272.8 good for having not one but TWO pizza dinners yesterday. Egad. One at my mother's place during moving things up and out from the basement into the dumpster, and then DH brought home dinner for us: pizza and wings. I scarfed it down. Today was a stress-release trip to the casino with my mom and my sister where we lost $ miserably and predictably and enjoyed buffet fare. All I thought when looking athe buffet food was "Oh that's fat with salt and goop-starch I guess-with some more salt and some fat on it". That Ending Overeating book is seeping into my food outlook inspite of myself. Wow. I was fine with one plate of "food" (let's put it that way;) ) and with one plate of three desserts. Not so great with that but compared to other times, and given the stress of the day (another cleanup day focusing on the kitchen this time with my mother's constant negative chatter about being "thrown away" and wanting my brother to "make her wings so she can fly away" - I want some too.) I am not down on myself at all. I got home too late for the swimming yesterday and today. I think my plans for mself are on hold for the next week too. My sister is extending her stay to get the house completely done and thats about another week but that's all it is. EVERYONE is worn out in everyway that counts. We need this OVER. From my point of view the worst of it is my mother is there as we sort and throw out her things. To me this is torturous. My brother says that's just me, others may feel comforted to see where it's going, that it is being looked after etc. perhaps. I feel like we could spoare my mother this part of it. Have her choose what she wants, move her into her place (we have the keys) and let's get her settled while my sister is here. I have no support though so it ain't happening, instead she will mill about and fret and go over and over the sore points constantly, pacing from room to room in a nervous manner all day long.
Oh Well. It is what it is. I am just physically tired and surprinsingly emotionally detached. I never fall apart until after it's all over so my day with that will come - again. I've already had a bit of that. It's all just really heavy.

Have a good night coaches. Glad you're here.

09-12-2009, 12:36 AM
The tummy thing seemed to be the 24-hour variety -- much improved now and back on plan. Thanks for the healing thoughts, everyone!

WI: -0.35kgs, Exercise: +42, 498/1200 minutes for September, Food: op
Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

Kim in NH: Glad you found a DVD that challenged you and a good activity at the school. Good job on recognizing last night's slip us and with getting back on plan.

RobinW: good job on both making a food plan and following it.

Nuxmaga: Yay for the walking and rejected cookies. I had to make a "no eating in the car" rule to rid myself of my worst junk eating episodes.

BillBlueEyes: yay for reframing muffins to cupcakes, making them easy to resist. I like the idea of putting the advantages and responses on my weight loss Excel sheet. I definitely look at that every day. I may do that, too. Can't have that stuff in too many places.

eusebius: sorry that exhaustion threw you off but good for you for recognizing what happened. Glad that NVC is working with your daughter.

bennyhannahmama: Sounds like you've had a real insight about how to feel good about yourself. Thanks for sharing it. Very helpful to me.

onebyone: Having your mother there sounds torturous to me, too. Your attitude seems healthy: "Oh Well. It is what it is." Sorry you haven't made it to the pool yet. Sending you warm and comforting energies for this difficult time.

kuhljeanie: warm and comforting energies going your way, too.

09-12-2009, 08:13 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Drat! At dinner I had the opportunity to stop eating and leave some rice on my plate, but I didn't. Oh Well. DW served me the same size plate as she was having but I realized that I was satisfied before I was finished. As a stretch, CREDIT moi for at least recognizing the situation. Seems that my finish-your-plate neurons are wired tight.

Went out for a walk despite the threatening rain; CREDIT moi. When I first started I never missed a walk - I own rain gear - but I've gotten a bit lazy of late so I'm pleased to have confronted that one. The increasing threat kept me hustling enough to work up a sweat despite the chill. The rain came about a minute after reaching home.

onebyone - Congrats for making your business decision to switch markets rather than remain hostage to an uncertain ride. For me, failure to make decisions has been more damaging than making wrong ones.

Clearing your mother's stuff while she's there does seem like it's harder on her than necessary. I like your idea of getting her settled in a new place with a few cherished items and not having to see the old stuff disposed. Sending supportive thoughts for another week of this. You're being a good daughter.

Erika (eusebius) - Kudos for using NVC stuff to avoid confrontation with your DD; I know the theory that when she finds it isn't getting a rise out of you she'll stop, but that's a theory that my own kids didn't seem to know about, LOL. Have a relaxing Shambhala weekend.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Yay for feeling comfortable in your body; good feeling, that. Hope your long drive to NY went OK. Thanks for the tip to use that gum idea on Costco samples. Think I'll try that next time since I haven't been able (or willing) to concur them otherwise.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Yay for a tummy thing ending in 24 hours. I've got such a thing about swine flu that I being to worry with a sneeze, LOL.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Yep, "those days" seem to occur; Kudos for keeping it to a bounded set of events and not as the beginning of a fall. That idea also come later in the book from where you're reading but you've got it already. Kudos for substituting the veggie sandwich for the roast beef.

Readers - Get Ready: Lay the Groundwork

The time you put into getting ready will help you to:
. . .
• Feel more confident about your ability to follow your diet consistently, even when the going gets tough.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-12-2009, 09:38 AM
Work is settling down; my PM called me to talk about timeline today. He’s a nice guy and seems very reasonable. So, it’ll work out. I finished up on my old project; sent my documents (still just shy of 500 pages – ha!) off to my old PM. So I’ll just be babysitting that project into the future.

Food was great today. I was really tired today, so went to bed before I got hungry enough to eat my evening snack. Exercise was good too – yoga, core, and walking. I hoped to sneak in a kayak ride, but didn’t finish work until late, so didn’t end up doing it. Oh well…

:df: WI-down .9 lbs. Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (47m).

Margaret Kudos for tracking your food and walking 4500 steps! Yay for resisting the ‘bad cookies.’ Ouch for ‘eating in the car this morning, and usually it's a sign that I am feeling anxious, and wolfing down snacky things.’ Would it help to review your cards when you think about eating in your car? or perhaps have food (and pre-specified portions) you can flexibly choose to eat in the car?

Robin :yay: for not eating onplanned food. Credit for recognizing you need ‘to work the program a bit better.’

Kim (in NH) Credit for doing a new ‘30 minute boot camp type DVD’ – I’m impressed! It certainly sounds to me like you are pushing yourself hard enough. Your DSs school sounds so small – where in NH do you live. Are you north, in the mountains?
Re Friday evening post – Credit for doing so well with food most of the day. Ouch for the slip-ups. But you are dead-right that it takes time to learn the skills, and we all slip up even after we have learned them. The skills help us to avoid them as much as possible, and to deal with them positively if they do occur. :)

gardenerjoy Too bad about the ‘icky tummy day’. I can see where being off-plan due to illness can make it easier to make un-wise food choices. It is difficult to find that balance to eating to feel better today, and eating to be better in the next weeks and months. Kudos for seeing that problem and leaving the kitchen because of it. And for doing yoga although you probably didn’t feel like it. Glad to see you are feeling better again and :yay: for continuing to lose weight!

Until last November, I hadn’t done regular exercise in years – I had fatigue from thryroid and pernicious anemia. I should never have given up exercise, because it probably made the fatigue worse. But I ‘listened to my body’. I’ve learned there are times to listen to my body, and times to gently tell it to suck it up. :D

In any case I started doing wii yoga 10 mins a day, a few days a week starting last November. By January, I was up to 30 mins a day, every day, doing wii yoga and strength training. I didn’t add weights until March when I bought a new wii exercise game (My Fitness /Coach). I’ve been increasing the weights and number of workouts since then. But I’m still at only 3 lbs – so you are no wimp! You are moving along much more quickly than I did. ;) But the little weights are very cute, and pink. :D

Bill Kudos on skipping the muffins, and especially getting to the gym although you worked late. It’s interesting how you like your gym community.

We have joked about taking the piano out to the dock! It’d be a blast if I could play well. But no one really wants to hear my labored plunking… ;) Last weekend, we did take DHs guitar out, he and my brother played around trying to remember how to play. ;)

Lol for being a member of the clean plate club. If you didn’t have this challenge (and ‘free food’ of course), life would just be too easy. What would you fret about? ;)

Erika Credit for having a positive day with DD in spite of your exhaustion. Ouch for the mini-binge, but it’s great you’ll learn from it. Failure is the catalyst to much of what we learn in life. LOL-Hope you don’t fall asleep learning Shambhala since you are already so exhausted. Have fun and come back relaxed!

Kim (bennyhannamama) It’s nice to see you back and it’s great that using your Beck-skills is having such a positive emotional impact. And kudos for the lost weight too!

one by one The days with your Mom, and family, do sound torturous. It sounds like your plan for your Mom would be better for all, but it’s not something you can control. You are doing everything you can in the situation. :hug: For now, it is probably best to take it one step at a time…

Kuhljeanie You are really facing so many challenges at once. Life is like this sometimes. It will pass; in time life will be better and easier. That probably doesn’t help at all now, but you have our support. :hug: Wish I could offer something more substantial… But you are right to also focus on what is good in your life. DH and el nino are healthy and you have each other. I hope you have a quiet, relaxing weekend…

09-12-2009, 11:14 AM
:wave: just a quickie! Im off today, and plan to stay home and get some more wallpaper peeled, some laundry done, new curtains ironed and rehung, and cook a lovely roast for dinner :D That's the plan!

Have a great saturday everyone!

Kim in NH
09-12-2009, 09:41 PM

Coaches/Buddies; Did my 30m boot camp workout (credit). It is supposed to be a 6 week program. We’ll see if I can go from Private Benjamin to GI Jane in that time :workout:– here’s hoping.

Made a batch of chili (with Cilantro – thanks Bill for that idea). The boys had it over mashed potato, I had mine over whole wheat cous cous (credit) and a little sweet potato on the side. I was going to make a meat-free batch but then skipped it. There is so little beef in a ladle full. BUT, it would have been easier to calorie count w/o the beef.

RobinW; sounds like a wonderful day at home, hope you enjoyed it.

ChinaMaine; I should have figured it out by now, but haven’t – what do you do for work? Editing?
Great job on the exercise…every time I see the word kayak I think about it. There a few mom’s here in town that have them and get out after the kids go to school (no soaps and bons bons for these gals). I’ve rented one a few times and I think I’d enjoy it. It’s great you can get right out without loading on a vehicle, it must be a treat. We have a stream and beaver damed pond – we leave the canoe back there but with all the trees it is hard to get around except when the water is high enough.
I’m in Francestown. (30 minutes NW of Nashua). It is the edge of the Monadnocks (the little mountains in the SW corner of the state.) Far enough out without being too far from a Home Depot. I had to look up China, Maine as I had no idea where you were. It looks like a nice area. Back in the days before kids we’d vacation in Acadia - all I really know of Maine's vastness – 4 times I can remember, in fact that was my first kayak experience.

BillBlueEyes; Yay for patient rainclouds, not so yay for neural pathways that remain open. Good for the moment of recognizing when you had had enough. I have started to really notice the 20 minute delay of eating and feeling of fullness. I am still working on knowing what is the right amount of food, especially something heavy like we had tonight (chili) – I feel uncomfortable now like I overate and that was two hours ago.

Gardenerjoy; glad you are feeling better!

OnebyOne; good for you hanging in there with so much going on. Seems to me it is unfair that stress does not burn more calories – it certainly drains us more than exercise does. :):)

Have a good night everyone,

09-12-2009, 10:27 PM
We made broccoli stir fry today for the first time in weeks. Yummy and healthy, but I remembered a problem when I smelled the rice cooking. I used to finish my supper and then eat more rice. So, I told my husband that I used to do that and that I was not doing it tonight. So, I didn't. The extra servings are safely refrigerated to be the base of future healthy lunches.

WI: -0.05kgs, Exercise: +50, 548/1200 minutes for September, Food: op
Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

BillBlueEyes: good job on recognizing the rice situation -- I'm sure that's the first step in rewiring the brain. And, yay, for walking just before the rain hit!

ChinaMaine: glad the work situation is straightening itself out. Thanks for the encouragement on the exercise -- your experience is inspiring. Persistence seems to be the key.

RobinW: hope the wallpaper removal went well.

Kim in NH: good job with the boot camp. The chili sounds delicious!

Walking Princess
09-13-2009, 02:16 AM

Sorry I haven't posted most of the week. It's a combination of being very busy at work and feeling a bit ashamed of myself. My tv had been out for a week (just finally got it fixed) and it's been 98 degrees outside that whole week so needless to say I haven't had much exercise. I tried to stay on track eating wise but goofed a few times. It wasn't anything major until yesterday. I was having cravings all day. I finally broke down and let's just say I blew it BIG time. I was really upset with myself. How can I throw away everything I have worked so hard for. I have no idea what set the whole thing off. I was a little stressed from work but nothing I think I would have eaten as much as I did though. Maybe it was hormonal? I have no idea. I have no desire to do that again. Lesson learned. On the plus side, I still despite how bad I did yesterday didn't eat as bad as I used to in that situation. I still ate less. It was just still way more than I needed. Decided I should fess up to my Coaches here and move on. Today went better and I got 45 min of exercise in (my tv is fixed so I can do my workout dvd's again). Let's hope for a better week!

Bill - great job at recognizing that you were satisfied. I understand not being able to stop sometimes. It happens. As you and Beck said, Oh Well. I'm a member of the Clean-Your-Plate-Club too. It's a hard habit to break. Good for you for going for a walk despite the impending rain. I'll bet you felt proud of yourself that you had done that!

ChinaMaine - kudos to a great day op! You did wonderful and you should be proud

Robin - hope you had a great day!

Kim in NH - kudos for doing your workout today and for picking a healthier side dish. Great job! The chili idea sounds really good!

Gardner Joy - great job on not eating seconds on your favorite meal. I'll bet you feel great! I almost had second tonight but then recognized the sabatoging thoughts and put the leftovers away

09-13-2009, 06:45 AM
Wowza, what a friday report!Good Morning TomOh,

That's some impressive typing to post on 26 different threads in your first early morning forty minutes of posting on 3FC, culminating in a link to the site that sells the cleansing and fasting shakes.

The Beck plan is a set of strategies that does indeed includes chose your own diet - but the fasting part of the "cleansing and fasting" site you link to seems outside of the kind of eating that Beck recommends, and apparently 3FC as evidenced by 3FC substituting those ******** for the name of the company.

Post here again when you're interested in Beck.

ETA: Congrats to the 3FC monitors who took down all posts by TomOh. Apparently they, too, were a bit suspicious.

09-13-2009, 07:26 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Another day at the gym (CREDIT moi) outside of my time slot. Glad that I don't compare; not me. This college kid was lifting his knee to his waist, then grabbing it and lifting it to his shoulder. His shoulder. Shudder. But one man, rather buff and much younger than me, was using the same dumbbells that I use; so there.

Eating was OP included using the last of my batch of chili for dinner with DW; CREDIT moi. Cool and rainy around here.

Updated my ticker to register 4 Years along my new journey. For some reason I believe that making five years is a good indicator that you might just stick to it. Feeling like I'm on the way.

Robin (RobinW) - Love the smell in the whole house when a roast is cooking.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for skipping your evening snack just because you weren't hungry. I'll try to remember that since I don't think I've ever skipped mine.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Broccoli stir fry is so yummy. Kudos for planning to avoid the extra rice.

Kara (Walking Princess) - Kudos for fighting that "throw away everything" feeling and getting right back on track. Methinks that's about the biggest step in making this long term - getting right back on the wagon.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Yay for figuring out how to have the same meal as your family with a mod to make it yours - whole wheat cous cous is yummy. Kudos for working that 20 minutes to feel the satiety thing.

Readers - Get Ready: Lay the Groundwork

The time you put into getting ready will help you to:
. . .
• Feel more accountable for every calorie you consume.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-13-2009, 10:01 AM
Another quick checkin from me - The Shambhala workshop was fantastic, and I feel I have some new tools for my journey. That said, I got home totally exhausted to find that DH and DD had ordered pizza and fries. Not a good scene, all told. Oh Well ... a new start once again. I think with proper sleep I'll be well equipped now.

Bill - Congratulations on 4 years!! You're such an inspiration to all of us here. Here's to many more successful years with Beck.


09-13-2009, 10:14 AM
Saturday was a lazy, somewhat productive, day. There were grey skies here all day, but the rain stayed south of us. I did a 30m upper body workout, took Moose on a brisk 30m walk, and kayaked 40m. So it was a great workout day – credit! Food was on-plan too. Credit moi.

I also spent a few hours logging all our expenses for the month, ouch! But it’s done and we know we have belt tightening to do for the remainder of the month. Oh well…

As a reward, I worked on this week’s practice piece for piano. It’s a classic Spanish guitar piece ‘Malaguena’. It’s the first piece in a couple of months that is coming easily, and it’s fun to play. My DH came up and started accompanying me on guitar. It was SO much fun. And then before dinner, we went out to the dock and had a bonfire. I really do feel lucky to live where I do…

:df: WI-down .9 lbs. (new low!) Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (100m).

Robin Sounds like a busy plan for Saturday – hope it was a good one.

Kim (in NH) Here’s to meeting Private Kim in 5 weeks or so! ;) I do software design and write these ridiculously long docs for the development team to write code from. I like kayaking a lot. My favorite exercise is hiking -- and, for me, kayaking is like hiking on the water. I like kayaking more than canoeing because you can go a bit faster, and I can handle the boat by myself. You live in such a pretty part of the state. We rented a cottage near Mt Sunapee 16 years ago, it was gorgeous. My brother lives in Derry, but it’s not as scenic there as it probably is by you… China is very pretty, but no mountains.

gardenerjoy Kudos for breaking the old rice habit. Were you hungry after dinner? Credit for being op for food and exercise!

Walking Princess It’s too bad you had a mini-binge, but it’s great you ate less than you would have in the past. Be sure to keep that in mind, rather than just focusing on the mis-step. I find it helps to figure out my calories for the day and see how much I exceeded my calorie goal for the day. Usually, it’s not as bad as I would have guessed. It helps me to keep me from beating myself up too much and focused on the fact that it’s something I can work on avoiding in the future. Just an idea… :)

Bill :congrat: for 4 years! You should be very proud of all the work you do every day to have reached this milestone. You give us confidence, day in and day out, that each of us can succeed if we keep at it consistently. Lol at comparing yourself to others at the gym. But, wow – that college kid is flexible!

Erika I’m glad the workshop was so successful. How is your sleep going otherwise? I’m thinking I may try the CBT book you used… Ouch for the fattening foods DH and DD had on hand. But today is a new day. :)

09-13-2009, 11:01 AM
Hi Coaches

I planned all week to get to the downtown farmers market today but, alas, given the week I had I didn't get the basics taken care of like, how will I get a table dowtown and back and which table? Do I even have a suitable one? I am pretty bummed about not being there as I am typing this. It's amazing weather. Not too many weekends of outdoor selling left.

A big Beck OH WELL to this for today.

There will be an other opportunity come Saturday. I'll have to make this a priority this week to be ready to go on Saturday. My friend offered me her Coleman camping table which folds in half and is lightweight with a handle and that's exactly what I need *boring* though it is as a display. SIGH. Right now I just have to get there and that will get me there. My work will have to provide the pizzazz.

So this week I have to spend some time with the hard-to-be-around/hard-to-please ceramic instructor. My guess is we are discussing glazes. Ugh. I must take the longview wiht this job. I am grateful for it as it will provide for the me the means to make a killing in 2010. Yep, this is definitely the longview!

I am onto something ceramic wise though. I showed my sister my ceramic buttons, my prototypes and she was thrilled by them. She felt like she was getting away with something by me giving her so many of them. She was the intended recipient when I made them over a year ago, but at the time we had a big falling out so she never got hem and then I couldn't do anything with them out of guilt so now I can move forward and apparently should!

Yay for moving forward.

Foodwise I am doing okay. credit weighed once to see 273.0

Guess that's it. I'm off for the very enjoyable day ahead of me.

BillblueEyes :congrat: 4 years! & here's to 4 more (plus more)! You show us what it takes to get four years, or four days! Thanks. :hug:

ChinaMaine Credit for the exercise and the OP food and the ever increasing guitar skills! I am happy to read how much you enjoy where you are. Awesome.

eusebius Oh I so relate to finding pizza takeout at home and giving in to it's charms. Oh Well it happens. Nice to hear you got a lot out of the Shambala workshop... enjoy your Sunday!

Walking Princess credit for coming her and confessing and bigger credit for just moving on. It's the best thing we can do for ourselves... credit credit credit.

gardenerjoy I too have a love of extra rice. I especially love plain cold rice freshly made and can eat lots and lots of it. Go figure eh? Kudos for doing something about it and acceptance of your own triggers--even bigger kudos for that!

Kim in NH Credit for the bootcamp success and for allowing yourself meat when you wanted meat. I have found that when I restrict these small things I often, later, rebel in a Big Way.

RobinW I hope your house looks as fantastic as it sounds like it's going to be! Have a great relaxing Sunday.

:wave: Everyone I missed. I'm off to catch a bus...

09-13-2009, 04:00 PM
Coaches/Buddies I feel like myself again today. I had a nice bike ride yesterday, and so far today eating has been reasonable. I read my RCs and am making a plan (at least a mental one) for tomorrow. I spent an hour or so chopping mirepoix for cooking in the next couple weeks. It has been a long time since I cooked. I found chopping was very centering.

Swimming tomorrow.

Am I back? I don't know. I'm trying again. Sooner or later it will stick.

And I'll start personals with Bill since I have to start somewhere, and if I have to go back to June, I'll be here way longer than my children will be napping.

BillBE Just awesome work on 4 years. I think you've got it! And, well, had a nice moment imagining your gym and the young man therein. ;) Thanks for that too. Heh.

Erika Glad you got some useful stuff out of your workshop. Ah the great pizza dilemma. Here's to fresh starts.

ChinaMaine Lazy and productive. Woot! Love your musical reward!

onebyone Sorry to hear the farmers' market didn't work out. Did you get a list of stuff to get ready for the next one?

Hugs to kuhljeanie, and wave to everyone!



09-13-2009, 07:20 PM

Ive got some pinched things happening in my hand and lower left leg. Something Im blaming the chiropractor for...Im not happy about this, and rather ticked :mad: Its been getting steadily worse all week since my last visit. I go back tomorrow morning. Once she gets this mess fixed, that will be it for me.

Got a big pot of creamy protein celery soup made, a mess of salmon patties cooked up for lunches and a big crustless spinach quiche all cooked up! So Ive been busy and getting my food in order for the week. Even have some chicken thighs thawing for tomorrow's supper. :D

Yesterday turned out to be a pretty good alot done, but not much. kwim? I emptied out the garbage can about 5 times :rolleyes: I still need to do more tossing!! Not much paper was removed off the walls, but Im getting there.

Bathroom reno is starting in about 4 weeks, and I want to have all the paper off these walls downstairs (because we are having ceiling work done at the same time) I was actually able to talk dh into changing the walls down here!! Big huge Kudos to me for that one :lol: Now if I could just talk him into a dog.

Thats it here...have a wonderful evening everyone!

Kim in NH
09-13-2009, 08:43 PM
Quick one tonight.

Coaches/Buddies; Did well with food today, and did 30min of exercise. Read day 7 of the book, which involved removing unhealthy foods from sight. These things I had done a while ago, but still nice to read through to see if I am on track.

BillBlueEyes; Congrats on 4 years. :hat: I look forward to that number someday.

Need some off computer time, so will check back tomorrow. Hope everyone had a nice weekend.


09-13-2009, 09:42 PM
dear coaches,

thanks (AGAIN!!!) for your support. means the world to me since there aren't a lot of folks IRL who know everything that's going on with me. turns out that the million little decisions led to another engagement at a new (for me) client that starts either tomorrow or tuesday. either way is wonderful; word on the street from the account mgrs is that sales have started picking up again, my last client is aggressively trying to find another project for me when the new one ends in a couple of weeks, so i may actually be out of the woods job-wise. house is still a big WTH??, and still working through the M/C emotional stuff, but a giant stress ball is removed by knowing that paychecks will continue for the foreseeable future.

as far as beck and diet & exercise...hard to be on plan when i don't have a plan these days. will have to see what the new client scene is like before figuring out the workouts there, but i'll find some way. i'm not gaining - all through this **** sandwich of a year i've managed to maintain. gently stunned by that and looking forward to a new period to reach new lows. it may be a while - we'll be actively TTC for the next little bit. if you could, please keep us (and the health of my plumbing) in your thoughts or prayers or meditations or whatever flavor thing you're into. here's to the second half of 2009 being a LOT better than the first. :goodvibes

congrats bill - wow. what an inspiration you are.

09-13-2009, 10:31 PM
DH and I tried to take a hike today, credit! The hike was supposed to take us to the summit of a small mountain with nice views of a large-ish lake. But the book’s description of the ‘trail’ bore no resemblance to the maze of uneven snowmobile trails we actually found. In spite of that, we got a good walk in trying to figure out where we were supposed to go. Eventually we gave up and walked back down to the lake, and along its shore to our parked car. We got rained on, saw 3 beautiful horses and scared a chicken – so an interesting walk indeed.

I got the NYTimes at the supermarket, so had a nice read while DH dozed on the dock with me. Food was pretty good. I ate a few more crackers than planned for my afternoon snack, but not so many that it pushed me over my calorie limit for the day. Credit again!

:df: WI-up .4 lbs. Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (88m).

one by one Credit for being op for food! Good luck getting all your ducks in a row for next Saturday.

Anne :yay: for feeling like yourself again. I agree that cooking can be very centering. Since DH is laid off, he does almost all of the cooking so I usually only help when we have company. (not complaining though ;))

Robin Grrr for ‘pinched things and hope you get it fixed tomorrow. Your food for the week sounds yummy – credit!

Kim (in NH) Glad you are doing well with food and exercise.

Kuhljeanie :yay: for continued employment. It really is a wonderful thing. :) I do hope the rest of this year is better than the last months have been.

09-13-2009, 10:45 PM
It's a good thing that I read on one of the threads here that a 5 pound gain isn't that unusual in a 24 hour period or I might have freaked out about the scale reading this morning. I ate on plan yesterday, but I might not plan Japanese for lunch and Chinese for supper again -- more sodium than I'm used to. That plus TOM plus digestive issues plus my body adjusting to the addition of strength training probably explains it.

I got to work on a different aspect of my resistance muscle today. I needed to go to the grocery store this morning. Shopping on Sunday morning used to mean donuts for breakfast. That's the same time + location aspect that I've been working on for weeks. Today, throw in a bit of frustration and discouragement, that little voice saying that I gained 5 pounds, why the heck shouldn't I have a donut? I didn't -- I ate a healthy breakfast at home and stayed away from the bakery.

Oh well. I'm thinking a dramatic gain sets me up for a dramatic loss. If not tomorrow, at least over the next fortnight.

WI: +1.9kgs (!?!), Exercise: +30, 578/1200 minutes for September, Food: op
Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

Walking Princess: Good for you for reporting in and getting back on track!

BillBlueEyes: Five years is kind of a magic number for me, too. A lot of the books I've read talk about the small percentage of people who lose the weight and keep it off for five years.

eusebius: glad that workshop was great!

ChinaMaine: yay for food and exercise on plan! The music and bonfire sound wonderful.

onebyone: the ceramic buttons sound beautiful and how great that you and your sister worked your way to a point where the giving and receiving was so pleasurable to you both!

RobinW: love the cooking you did for the week -- sounds yummy and healthy!

Kim in NH: good job on doing the work of Chapter 7 before you got there, and reading it anyway for the reinforcement!

kuhljeanie: so good to see you here! Yay for the job stuff working out -- such a relief! Sending healing energies to you and your plumbing (I can be pantheist in certain moods, so I don't see why that shouldn't work!).

Walking Princess
09-14-2009, 01:30 AM
Hi everyone,

Had a great Beck day! op with eating and exercise, yea! :carrot: Did my cards, drinking water, lesson plan for the day, etc. Check, check, check!

Bill - congratulations on reaching the 4 year mark. That is so great and something to be proud of. You are such an inspiration! Here's to another 4! Thanks, this is something I have been really working on - getting right back on track after going off. Usually I get discouraged and give up. Not this time since I've started Beck!

Erika - hi! How are you? :wave:

ChinaMaine - glad to hear you had a great day! Hope this coming week is just as good! Thanks for the tip for getting back on track, it's a great one!

OnebyOne - yes, some days are just one big Beck "oh well". Just move forward from here. Hope you enjoyed your day

Anne - glad to hear you are feeling better :)

Robin - you have been a busy lady today! All that food sounds like it will make things easier for you this week. Great job! Hope your pinched nerve problem gets fixed quickly

Kim - happy to hear you had an op day, kudos!

Jeanne - so happy to hear that your job is more secure now and you won't have to worry for a while. Whew! I know you are still dealing with quite a lot emotionally but you are doing terrific! I think you should be quite proud of yourself that you haven't gained any weight through all this. I think that is definitely a sign of success! :hug:

Joy - great job staying op and eating great despite the sabatoging thoughts that were coming through and being down about your weight gain. I think it's just hormonal though. You've been eating op all week and you've done so well. I'm sure it will be gone within a couple of days. Please don't worry about it, you are doing GREAT!

Good night all!

09-14-2009, 04:54 AM
Hey All,

I hope it is okay for me to post in the forum. I originally lost 120 pounds. Within the last year I have regained 40 pounds. In have to lose the 40 and then still lose an additional 30. Oh boy! Anyway, things changed in my life to cause a change in my "routine". I changed jobs. I thought it was going to be better but I find myself under so much stress and I dont like my job. I dont have a breakroom to even eat no structure or privacy. I moved into another apartment, got a new car and then the economy changed. Whew! Depression and stress took over. I know how to eat right and workout but I have got to get my groove back. I majored in Psychology and always liked Beck's theory so why not apply it to my life. I am dedicated to trying the 6 week challenge(the first book). As I read the book, I would like to follow the forum and contribute, if allowed. Anyway, I will make this short. TIA!

09-14-2009, 06:19 AM
:welcome: Welcome Ann (RoyalAthena) :welcome:

And, in case you didn't get this when you joined 3FC some 2.5 years ago, :wel3fc:

How did you hear about the Judith Beck books?

And how did you find this thread on 3FC?

09-14-2009, 06:28 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Twice I avoided unplanned snacks; CREDIT moi. But then came homemade bread with homemade apple butter. It was time for my morning snack, so it became a large snack. Oh Well. Maybe the only thing better than Honey Crisp Apples is apple butter. That stuff is good.

Did a session in my vegetable garden working the weeds. Boy do they grow fast. We're finally caught up, just as the season is nearly over. But there's a lot of kale left, which is great since I'm a big kale fan. Learned that when you let tomatoes run dry then water then fiercely they all split. Ouch. This gardening business doesn't seem tolerant to neglect.

Thanks everyone for the well wishes and kind words for passing the four year mark on my journey. Today is the first day of year five.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Congrats to you and the Universe for making your job situation look secure again. Continue to send supportive thoughts toward your good health and recovery.

onebyone - Yay for the terrific contact with your sister with your gift of ceramic buttons. Kudos for persisting until you closed that. Ouch for the flub with the table; good luck with next weeks show. And good luck with keeping your cool with the face-to-face contact with the difficult ceramics teacher.

Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for all that cooking as well as steaming wallpaper. It's been a while since I remember you mentioning your "protein celery soup." Ouch for the "pinched things." Hope that clears up right away and if it doesn't that you check in with your doctor since feelings at extremities can have circulatory type causes also.

Anne (wndranne) - Yay for getting your thinking back. And Yay for making me look up that "mirepoix" is onions, carrots, and celery, LOL. Yep, I'm working on treating chopping as a part of living rather than a chore. The mindset helps me.

ChinaMaine - Love the image of you playing ‘Malaguena’ with your DH on his guitar. LOL at a walk where you " rained on, saw 3 beautiful horses and scared a chicken."

Erika (eusebius) - Kudos for taking care of yourself with the Shambhala workshop and Kudos to your DH for taking care of DD so you could.

Kara (Walking Princess) - Yay for a "a great Beck day!" And Kudos again for being conscious of the notion of getting right back on track.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Big Kudos for thinking yourself past those Sunday morning donuts. Ouch for the temporary 5 pound sodium hit; good attitude about knowing what it means.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Kudos for removing unhealthy foods. It does help me when I just don't see tempting foods.

Ann (RoyalAthena) - Ouch for a string of challenges all at once. Kudos for methodically looking for a way to work your eating and exercise plans. Yep, you're most welcome to contribute to the forum here. There are several folks in the early days of Beck's 42 day program, so you'll fit right in.

Readers - You'll use Cognitive Therapy techniques to prepare your mind and environment for dieting.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 53.

09-14-2009, 11:14 AM
Good Morning

Im just back from the chiro....after all the poking and prodding, my arm hurts, but I cant really blame her. She was looking for the issue. My lower leg has moved from being sleeping feeling, to its waking up. kwim? Progress? I dont know...Im just still very upset about the whole thing and its put me in a rather foul mood. (poor hubby)

I dont seem to put up well with issues in my body! Just want it to work the way its suppose to. Maybe if I get mad enough, I'll banish it all away? :dunno: :lol:

Food is planned and packed! Not going to the gym until this wonky nerve stuff has stopped. I do think I'll make an appointment with the massage therapist tho.

Other plans for the day....

make up new cards
get some reading done from new books
get some reminder reading done from Dr. Beck's books
get home to get chicken soaked in marinade before noon today.

Then off to weightloss meeting tonight! Might even look up an OA meeting for sometime today.

Things have gotten strange with my eating and drinking. I dont "over drink" because I know I cant function the next day and I dont like the "hang over" effect. So I have the quantities down to precision. BUT, when I sub wine for sugar I end up eating too much after the wine to help soak up the liquid to keep from having the ill effects in the morning.

Its a vicious cycle. Even tho I dont have an issue with the alcohol, I have issues with the sugar/alcohol/food intake issue.

Addiction at its best :sorry:

Im off to get my day in and done with....with 100% success!

09-14-2009, 10:37 PM
Most of the day was boring, until I got out of work… After work, we kayaked around the island. It was pretty, but a bit windy. We made a bonfire and hung out on the dock until dusk. A bald eagle was doing some serious fishing off the island – we definitely saw him catch one fish – very cool. We went inside for dinner. During dinner a bat started flying around the inside the house. Did I yelp! :faint: DH trapped it in a room and it eventually flew out a window. Whew!

Food was pretty good today, although I ended up about 75 calories over my goal. Oh well. Exercise was okay, but I didn’t have my heart in it today. Credit for doing it anyway…

:df: WI-up 1.1 lbs. Didn’t make a plan (but made careful choices), read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (73m).

gardenerjoy Great job of building your resistance muscle! I’ve had 5+ lbs gains only a couple of times – thank goodness. For me it did drop back down right away.

Kara (Walking Princess) Isn’t it nice to be in the groove? Credit!

Ann (Royal Athena) :welcome3: It sounds as though you are going through some really stressful times. You’ve already lost so much weight – it’s inspiring. Kudos for starting the Beck plan. I have a background in psychology too, btw. :)

Bill I know what you mean about Honey Crisp apples. I saw the first of the season yesterday, and almost did a jig! Today is the first day of year five. – that is really amazing. I hope I can say that someday…

Robin I hope your leg feels better soon. Kudos for doing so much Beck-work in spite of it!

09-14-2009, 11:03 PM
Good Evening Coaches from a fantastically thunderous place!

It was a dark and stormy night...

So I was at my mother's today with my brother and sister. We picked up my mother's car and drove it to her mechanic who will sell it for her. We packed a bit of her stuff and we tidied up what we have left in the basement. None of us were in any state to do anything today. All of us were barely functioning. My mother will be in her new place on Friday. It's good. She's not looking forward to it but is resigned to it happening. Perfectly reasonable responses if you ask me. Her anxiety level is climbing day by day too, but we all have a great sense of humour so the anxiousness gets only so far.

I have been making arrangements with a friend for the finding of homes for 2 of my mom's 3 cats. All were rescues. She gets to keep one cat at her new place. Caesar, a great cat, will be getting dental work on Wed so will come to my place for convalescence to the great displeasure of both DH and Kitty X (my rescue/stray cat who hates all animals). Caesar will need antibiotics for a good week before I can release him to my friend who has a prospective home for the kitty with people in her building. I am secretly hoping Kitty X will like Caesar and DH will melt when Caesar nuzzles him. He's soooooo affectionate. I love that cat. Ah well. Yet another angle to this moving business.

I am trying to do the impossible this week:
1) get ready for market on the weekend = make things and get my display in order; about 1.5days work/focus
2) get to the school and work 12 hours before this pay period ends. I have until Sunday at 4pm. Jim the ceramic teacher thinks I may be in his class on Wed cause I said I was thinking about doing that and he excitedly brought it up in email today and without $ to officially do it I am wondering about how I can do it. It means no going to my mom's on Wed too. hmmm.
3)get the cats on Friday and bring them to where they will temporarily be housed
4) get my mom moved and make sure I visit ASAP
5)actually make it to the markets to sell 2 days in a row

So when I walked into my mom's house this morning I ate three oatmeal (blechh) cookies standing up before we even discussed anything, then had 3 more of another yukky kind. And it was pizza for lunch again (blechh). Spaghetti at home. Some grapes. No green things. A little water.
I'm conscious credit but not much more than that. Weighin, once credit, this morning = 274.8

RobinW I was getting numbness and tingliness and coldness like you describe along the sides of my thighs and the tops of my thighs. It would move around and change, never the same from day to day. I was diagnosed with meralgia parenthesitis (sp) suspected cause: a sudden weight gain pressuring the nerve that runs through my hipbone. It's much much better now. Like you I freak out with body things. You'll heal.:hug: Kudos for the tons of OP actions you listed. Very good!

BillBlueEyes I see the difficult ceramic teacher tomorrow. We'll be fine. One of her two classes had no takers so her ego is in check, for now.;) We had gout weed in the garden I tried to work in at my friends house. Wow what tenacious stuff that is! What a fantastic year it was for gout weed! Kudos on your kale. It's good in homemade pea soup cut and sprinkled into it at the end so it just wilts into the soup; think spinach. I can feel the vitamins and minerals seep into me just by typing the word kale.

RoyalAthena :welcome3: Stress and fatigue really throw me offtrack. Beck is good for those symptoms as well as the depression you mentioned. Glad you found us. And a big CREDIT for maintaining a loss of 80lbs. Excellent.

:wave: I need to get some shuteye Becksters... I'll have to do more personals tomorrow. I hope we all get good restful zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's.

09-14-2009, 11:37 PM
Lost almost half of yesterday's dramatic gain. Thanks, everyone, for your support and encouragement.

I'm halfway to meeting my exercise goal for the month!

Tomorrow will be a challenge. I'm the designated driver for my brother's endoscopy and we have to be at the hospital earlier than I would normally be out of bed! I have a history of stress-eating in hospital cafeterias. I've packed a peanut butter sandwich and an apple that I'm calling breakfast. If I'm still at the hospital at lunchtime, I'll get a salad bar at the cafeteria, attempting to make it as close as possible to a salad that I would make at home.

WI: -0.85kgs, Exercise: +52, 630/1200 minutes for September, Food: op
Read my Advantages and Responses: no

Walking Princess: Yay for a great Beck day!

RoyalAthena: Welcome! So glad you found us! I've regained 40 pounds in the last year, too, and need to lose that plus 50 more. So sorry about the stress and your job. I've gained weight on stressful jobs and lost weight on stressful jobs -- I recommend the latter! Sounds like you are right on track to do it!

BillBlueEyes: I planted kale for the first time a few weeks ago for a fall crop. They are just big enough now that I need to thin them in the next few days and make a baby kale salad. I'm looking forward to it!

RobinW: so sorry about the nerve issues. I have little patience with physical problems, too. Sending healing energies your way!

ChinaMaine: cool for the fishing bald eagle -- we only see them in the dead of winter, so when I've seen them, I've been bundled in a parka and looking across an icy river.

onebyone: you sure have a lot going on! Hope all goes well with work, and your family, and the market, and the cats!

09-15-2009, 02:21 AM
Quickie tonight. I had a triathlon club meeting and am just now getting home. Not a stellar on plan day, but at least I wasn't fighting the basics, like writing down my food intake, making a plan, and at least trying to use some CT techniques. Tomorrow will be another step.


09-15-2009, 06:25 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Fall restarts my monthly meetings in the evening that include a working pot luck snack table in lieu of dinner. Last night I did better than I'd been doing last spring; CREDIT moi. I skipped some Ritz-like crackers and other stuff and bounded my take of sushi and seedless black grapes. Grabbed the opportunity for a small taste of top shelf dark chocolate; this works for me because the volume is strictly limited and there's no chance for seconds. I do love my dark chocolate.

Squeezed in gym; CREDIT moi. I'm ready for a shakeup of some sort in my gym routine. Hate to think about starting trainer sessions again since they're pricey but they force me to a more varied routine than I do on my own.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Waving. Hoping the Universe is aligning in your favor.

onebyone - Yay for humour to combat anxiety - soooooo much more effective than food. So good to hear you working side-by-side with your family on your mother's transition. Thanks for the tip for using kale. I'm having my previously-frozen lentils with kale for lunches this week and I'll remember your thought of just feeling the vitamins and minerals seeping in.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for the thought of banishing the issues with your body. Ouch for the "sugar/alcohol/food intake issue." Wish you well in finding a way to break into that cycle. Kudos for all you accomplished despite the "rather foul mood."

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for getting into your triathlon meeting; that's such a neat over-the-top event to look forward to.

ChinaMaine - Yay for watching both a Bald Eagle and a bat hunting for dinner. Our most local Bald Eagles don't show up until the water is nearly frozen and the pickings are good near a tiny water fall over a dam.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Neat to have a fall kale crop; drooling over your "baby kale salad." Kudos for being halfway through your September exercise goals at the month's mid point. Good luck with helping your brother get to the doctor today - Ouch that hospital eating is such a challenge for everyone.

Readers - Many dieters overlook these important issues when they're trying to lose weight. They start dieting with no preparation. Don't make this mistake! I've found preparation one of the most crucial components of dieting success.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 54.

09-15-2009, 07:45 AM
Good Morning :wave:

Went to the chiro yesterday, and the tingling/sleepy feeling in my leg turned to ice cold feelings for a couple hours. As of this morning, its almost all gone. My arm is still wonky, but it has less pain.

Stayed op yesterday....only deviance was when I had to test the pot roast when I took it out of the crock pot :D It was very tastey and will make a delicious supper tonight ontop of spaghetti squash.

Had a customer come in yesterday who we hadnt seen in about 3 weeks. Turns out stress has been literally eating away at him. He told us about tingling going on thru out his body and dismissed the dr's prognosis that it was stress. Until he went for a haircut and the hairdresser started talking about the universal health care. He said his face turned beat red and started going tingling and numb right away. Stress!!

He reminded me to take deep breaths! Which is why exercise is such a stress reliever. Forces you to breath deeply.

Here is a quote I heard yesterday that pretty much put it all in perspective for me.

"I can stay fat for the rest of my life, or I can loose an hours worth of sleep" (in reference to getting to the gym early) ~ Pam Brown

Im off to get busy, plan, and control my stress! Have a great day everyone!

09-15-2009, 08:00 AM
Morning Coaches -

Another flyby for me. I hope I can get back to personals soon. Things are insane, what with the start of school and several recitals coming up. However, I have managed to get back on track and am writing in between sets of my weight workout. I'm exhausted still, but I'm hoping that will improve.

:hug: to all of you and thanks for being there.

09-15-2009, 03:04 PM
i’m writing from my new client, and thank you AGAIN for the well-wishes (i sound like a broken record these days, don’t i?) it is such a relief to still be working, i can’t tell you. my hair was starting to fall out again but then stopped over the weekend. it’s amazing how strong the mind/body connection truly is. i would love more control over my thoughts, but that quickly becomes one more thing on my to do list that i don’t get to, so for now, it’s not a goal.

new client site is nice. it’s got an outside walking path, and the cafeteria has healthy options. too bad i opted out for round one yesterday and went with the salt on fat with sugar. oh, well. today i brought my lunch and handed myself a no choice, and stuck to it. every day they have a healthy menu option and they even include nutritional information on their website. i have no excuses. new client also thoughtfully located themselves north of the city, slicing a good 15-20 minutes off my commute both ways. voila – more sleeping and exercise. i’m back to calorie counting – i’m thinking 1900 is easily achievable, and i’ll build the rest of the deficit through activity (mostly walking with some hardcore Wii sports active and cardio boxing as often as possible.) sleep continues to improve and most nights i’m getting a good 7 hours. credit moi.

back on plan. (again.) sensewear is being discontinued and replaced with gowearfit, and my demo subscription for three months just got activated so i’m all set up there. am back to logging food there and uploading my data to the same place. credit moi for both doing it and for recognizing that i’m going to have to load up YET ANOTHER database with all my food and recipes. blech. that officially makes 113 (or thereabouts.)

last night DH brought home pictures from a disposable camera he’s been using here and there since our wedding two years ago. i could see the weight coming off my body as the months went by, but realized with a certain amount of horror and disgust that my perception of what i look like now doesn’t sync up with what the most recent pictures told me i really look like. in my head, i’m thin and fit and just about done. in reality, i’m still teetering on the wrong side of obese, and have also sorts of bulges and roundness i don’t want. it made me think of anne’s question about realizing so many ARCs and wondering how to keep going when you get close. i think i just figured it out for myself. sigh.

robin, so glad to hear the nerve stuff is improving on its own! that sort of thing is scary and frustrating all at the same time. am thinking of you. sending erika energy dust (am hoping that’s not a street name for some illicit drug) to get through all your doings! welcome athena! it’s wonderful that you’re stepping it up now, and not 80 lbs back. glad to have you! thanks, bill – seems that the universe is willing to take its direction from you. keep it coming. :) also, how great that you have a regular oppty to practice dealing with one of the most challenging food environments there is! gardnerjoy, hoping that your day at the hospital went smoothly. great job planning in advance. it’s amazing what a difference that makes in outcomes! onebyone, i got stressed out just reading your list! good luck with all that and i’m holding my breath for you until your mom is comfortably settled in the new place. china, i’m just gonna say it – i’m so envious! love bonfires and water and don’t generally have access to either. maybe DH and i can do something on the deck with our chimenea for dinner more often. i bet the kid’d love that. kara, keep it coming! sounds like you’re in a groove. waving at both our kims.

09-15-2009, 07:43 PM
Hi Coaches

So I was home today and had some encouragement to get myself over to the school and do some ceramic tech work. I put in 4 hours and had to head on home. It was enough for me today. I just had dinner and have to get some work together for the school boutique tomorrow. They are accepting artwork tomorrow and Thursday. I hope I have something on hand. I am not sure I can actually paint anything tonight. Tomorrow morning at 9am I will be seated in that ceramic class afterall. As it happened the teacher who's teaching ti walked in right after I got to the studio to work. It was completely unexpected. He told me he wanted me in his class as he wants to impart technical information to me about the kiln and the clay and studio stuff in general. He also said it makes no difference to him if I am there as a paying student or as the ceramic technician as part of my job... so I will be there as a tech, on me and I'll take the classes so long as I am able to without the management catching on! Had I not gone in I would not have gone to the class tomorrow so it seems rather fated if you ask me.

Weight-wise I was 277.2 today. Up 4 from the day before. Salt salt salt. Pizza did it to me yet again. Today there is no pizza at all in me thank goodness. credit for one weighin only.

I have to go get some work done now. Thanks for being here coaches.

09-15-2009, 09:28 PM
I did 30 minutes of exercise this morning and promised to do that last 15 mins as a morning or afternoon break from work. But I felt under-the-gun on getting stuff done, so I let sabotaging thoughts keep me from exercising. Tomorrow, I will use my CBT to confront my unrealistic, perfectionist expectations of both myself, and my PM. ;)

Turned out I was 100 calories under yesterday, rather than 75 over. (I entered the wrong chicken dish for my lunch yesterday). So that was nice. I know I haven’t had enough fiber today, but if that’s the worst I can say then I’ve had a great op day. :D

:df: WI-down 1.1 lbs. Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – off-plan (30m).

one by one You have a heck of a week ahead of you. I’d say the best you can do is eat as reasonably as you can manage – be as mindful as you can manage. And then let the rest go in terms of diet. It’s a kick the can kind of week… :kickcan:

gardenerjoy I’m glad most of the weight has already come back off. Good luck in the hospital. It’s amazing, isn’t it?, that hospitals and schools have some of the unhealthiest foods known to man. :shrug:

Bill Credit for making smart choices at the potluck. Those kinds of events can be such a challenge. I guess having it monthly allows you to learn some good strategies over time…

gardenerjoy, Bill In years past I’ve mostly seen the bald eagles in colder weather too. But now that we have the dock, we can see more of the shoreline and spend more time down there. So, we’ve been seeing the bald eagles almost daily. Earlier in the summer we actually saw a bald eagle catch a fish in front of our house and carry it to a tree top across the lake. To a nest, perhaps? Anyway, I am really enjoying seeing so much more of them…

Robin Some great insights on stress. But I’m sorry it’s been having such a severe effect on your body. It does sound like your body is telling you that something’s gotta give. Good luck!

Anne One day at a time – kudos for getting so many of the basics done.

Erika I’m sorry you are so exhausted and overwhelmed. Take it easy and do what you can. Don’t worry about being diet buddies until things settle down for you a bit. No reason to add to your stress at all. ;)

Kuhljeanie I have the same issue with the discrepancy between my body image, and my actual size. I’m so much smaller than I was, that I feel thinner than I am. I think of myself as a size 10, when I"m borderline 12/14. I have company often enough that I see pictures of myself every few weeks, so I can see what I look like in reality. I’m glad because it does keep me motivated to keep losing. But the first couple of times I saw myself in pictures, it was jarring to say the least. Glad the new cafeteria has healthier food.

Kim in NH
09-15-2009, 09:34 PM
Buddies/Coaches; Did fairly well the past two days. I did my 30 min boot camp DVD yesterday credit. Stayed within my plan – credit. 30 min sore and stiff legged walk with kids and dogs – credit. Did not read my cards though – will do so tonight. I remembered, which is good, but just could not fit it in as the day sped on– need to do it in the morning.

Finished the hearth job yesterday – grouting. I think I burned more calories in those few hours than I have in a long time. Ran out of grout almost at the end (why did I trust the tile gal and not read the specs myself ?) DH ran out and made it back in 90 minutes just in time to blend it in before the first batch had cured. I was pretty beat, as it also entailed carrying the 3 gallon water cleaning buckets up and down the deck stairs for fresh water. Since yesterday was Day 1 of an online boot camp I joined, I HAD to do the workout last night even when I’d have preferred the couch and a glass of wine. (did that later) so I guess credit for pushing myself.

Kuhljeanie; Great to hear the new job location suits you – what do you do for work? Thumbs up for healthy menu choices, walking paths and shorter commute! As far as the photos, I am always shocked when I see mine (the old saying the camera adds 10 pounds or 20 or 30 or…) Hope the new gowearfit works out. I read your thread on the Sensewear – sounds really cool to get the feedback on calories burned plus so much more.

Eusebius: waving to you in between reps!

OnebyOne; Sounds like things are working in your favor for the ceramics class. Yuck for the salt – it does mess things up. Hope it’s all out of you tomorrow. Hope things go well with the kitties, and as smooth as possible for your mom’s relocation.

RobinW; Glad to hear the tingling is subsiding. Love the quote!

BillBlueEyes; Sounds like you navigated your way through the snack table quite well. Yup, dark chocolate is what I’d go for too. I find the better quality the chocolate, the less I need to eat to satisfy that craving.
Good for you noticing you need a routine change at the gym before you find it’s too boring to go.

WndrAnne; Way to go for an on plan day even if not stellar.

Gardenerjoy; Good for you making a plan for those trips when food choices are iffy – yay for losing some of the gain quickly.

ChinaMaine; Really cool that you saw an eagle and saw it hunting. Cool seeing a bat too, but not in the house. We’ve had that happen as well, but our cat got it (I have no idea how – I would have rather it escaped outside) Love campfires too (we have to keep it below bonfire stage here) but we have them all summer for the kids.

RoyalAthena; Welcome!! I am one of the newer folks here, taking it slow through the book. Glad you joined us.

WalkingPrincess; Yay for having a great Beck day yesterday!

I still have some food planning and reading to do tonight. I have to say – this is a lot of work. One thing I know is when I am posting here, reading my cards, reading the book, logging in my food to the database, exercising, & reading posts, each of which is all about food; what I am not doing is eating!!


09-15-2009, 11:19 PM
Hi All,
Surfacing here. 7100+ steps,credit. Tracked food, credit. Calories under, yay! Zumba starts again tomorrow--yay!! Up 2.8 lbs, bleah. Lots of stress, and an increase in sabotaging thoughts about food being the way to relieve the stress. My back is wonky after a big sneeze(being over 40 sucks), but getting better. Sister in midlife crisis. Possible minor surgery to see a consultant about. Committee meeting next week at work. Commission to do a mosaic for a gravestone--seems like a big responsibility! Went to choir tonight, which is very enjoyable, stress-relieving, except for the surprise wine and pretzels at the break. Hope to do personals soon.

09-15-2009, 11:24 PM
Coaches/Buddies A totally craptastic food day today, but I'm still in a good mood because I ran 3.5 continuous miles this morning, and work didn't suck for once. So there! Yeah, I'm reading the cards and will make a better plan for tomorrow. I'm dealing with meeting food. I have issues.


BillBE Are you still doing the evil lunges? I haven't heard you lament your situation in a while.

RobinW Let me know how that stress controlling goes. And if you figure it out, send me the recipe. Please.

Erika Glad you are getting back on track and hope things get sane quickly.

Jeanie This post sounds so positive. I hope you are feeling a little better each day. Maybe I should look at some of my pics as well. Actually, I'm up about 5 lbs and I hate having to redo my last goal card. Maybe that will motivate me.

onebyone Here's to fate! Watch the evil pizza. I think I might ask for toppings in the shape of a big old frowny face next time.

ChinaMaine Credit on the 30 minutes, for sure. And now you have the gift of a goal to work to with the extra 15.

Kim in NH Hope you don't get sore from all that grouting. Wow!

nuxmanga Yay Zumba. Boo 2.8 pounds. I need to kick mine to the curb too. Hope the minor surgery is minor and thing go easy.


09-16-2009, 12:22 AM
I felt a little weird eating my pb sandwich in the waiting room at 9 in the morning, but it worked and no one said anything. My brother was unexpectedly told to have soup for lunch after his procedure so we stopped at Panera (that's called St. Louis Bread Company, here). He would have bought me something but I said "I think I'll go home and eat what I planned." It wasn't hard at all; I just did it! There must be one or two new neural pathways in my brain for that to happen.

WI: -0.45kgs, Exercise: 40, 670/1200 minutes for September, Food: op
Read my Advantages and Responses: no

BillBlueEyes: great job on the pot luck.

RobinW: glad things are improving with the chiro. Pot roast over spaghetti squash sounds like the perfect fall supper!

kuhljeanie: yay for all the good things with the new client including the location and the healthy menu options.

onebyone: that sounds terrific the way that the class worked out for you, for free!

ChinaMaine: good luck with fighting perfectionism with CBT -- and great idea!

Kim in NH: Wow! Good job on all the exercise even with the unexpected intensity of the home improvement work.

Nuxmaga: hope the Zumba is fun!

Walking Princess
09-16-2009, 01:51 AM

I've really been struggling the last couple days - maybe even several days with staying on plan. Not sure what the heck is going on with me but I have been eating over my allotted calories both yesterday and today. Why can't I seem to stay strong? I've really had a stern talking to myself and hope I've gotten through to myself. It has really brought all the self-confidence I've been working so hard to build back down to zero. I need to get back on track. Has this happened to anyone else about this time in the program (towards the end of the book?). I definitely need to read it again and go through all the exercises. I've learned a lot of new skills but obviously am still working on many others. Just wondering if this is normal or if I am failing at losing weight once again.


09-16-2009, 06:46 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Was particularly pleased with my lunch yesterday: lentils with kale over broccoli slaw, and two medallions of sweet potato fries. And the ear of corn, skim milk, and container of raw veggies, of course. CREDIT moi for getting lunch right.

Dinner presented the opportunity to leave food on my plate, and I did. ME, food on my plate, CREDIT moi. OK, it was a takeout burrito that was way too big - it included rice to fill up the college crowd I guess. So I skipped the tortilla entirely and left a bunch of the rice. And, for the first time ever, DW and I didn't finish the tiny container of guacamole - but that's in the fridge for later.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Yay for the new gig. May the Universe continue to shine on you for the remainder of the year - it certainly owes you. Ouch for the appearance of the two year stash of pictures - perhaps more reality than desired. I recently discovered a picture of myself in a chair, at weight, taken from the floor. It exacerbates everything. I look like Jaba the hut, LOL.

onebyone - Neat that you're taking the ceramics class that you wanted. Double Neat that it's free. Yep, the ol' Universe is getting its act together.

Robin (RobinW) - Glad you're making progress on that tingling/sleepy feeling; that kind of thing scares me. Just WOW on your customer's stress - that sounds like the guy you mentioned before who ordered a hundred Tee's and returned half an hour later with the cash. (Drooling at the thought of pot roast over spaghetti squash.)

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats on the continuous 3.5 miles - that's certainly worthy of a good mood. I've been concentrating on my form while doing the d*rn lunges which is improving their quality and seriously improving my attitude. The trick is to go more slowly and still keep the balance without simply using body momentum to carry myself forward. Alas, form matters.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for seeing that you can use CBT for perfectionist expectations of yourself. Good luck on it impacting your PM, LOL. A wise old friend used to mutter, "The further away from the bits, the more optimistic."

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for recognizing the Sabotaging Thoughts that food is what your stress needs. I think the recognition is the hardest part; that usually arrives in the form of that-didn't-work. Have a happy Zumba tonight.

Erika (eusebius) - Kudos for posting between your sets. Hope some calm falls your way this week.

Kara (Walking Princess) - Yep, the doldrums happen. Kudos for giving yourself a talking to - whatever shock to your system to allow your head to engage again. Sending supportive thoughts. Wouldn't think of it as staying strong, but of staying focused. You can do it.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Yay for "one or two new neural pathways." That's encouraging. LOL at covertly eating a PB sandwich in the hospital waiting room. Big Kudos for skipping the offer of lunch at the St. Louis Bread Company.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Congrats for finishing the grouting, especially for getting that last bit before it set. Having this wonderful image of Mickey Mouse carrying buckets of water, LOL.

Readers - What if you've already lost weight? You still need to prepare. Start with Day 1 and progress from there. Practicing the skills of this program is crucial to maintaining weight loss. It's insurance that all your hard work will pay off for a lifetime.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 54.

09-16-2009, 07:15 AM
Good Morning :wave:

This is the 2nd morning Ive been up extremely early without the help of an alarm clock :dizzy: :dunno: Oh well, at least Im getting to sleep ok...its staying there that seems to be the issue.

Bill~ that stressed out customer came in yesterday to order more tees and hoodies. Just as hyper/stressed as before. BUT, he came back with his wife about an hour later, and she was like a balm for him. He stood still, talked in a normal voice and didnt holler his questions at me lol

The pot roast was scary good last night! It was my first one! Mostly because dh kept saying how much he disliked pot roast. Turns out (I find out last night) its all the veggies in the pot he doesnt like, and the threat that I'll make him eat them. Sometimes he's a weird one :lol:

Have a ton of work to get done at the shop today. Yesterday wasnt a very focused day. Took all day just to come up with some sort of daycare logo :rolleyes: Hopefully today will be better!

Food was off just a bit, but Im very happy for fighting off the mid afternoon munchies! Im calling it a success!

Have a great day everyone!

09-16-2009, 09:08 AM
Morning Coaches -

I feel much more on track now. I'm still exhausted but I think the healthy habits are re-established, so I hope the energy will come back with time.

Ann (RoyalAthena) - Welcome!! You will love the support, humour, and intelligence you'll find in this group.

kuhljeanie - nice to hear that your new workplace is a good one. Congrats for getting back on plan!! Continued good thoughts to you & DH.

onebyone - free classes = sweet! Ouch for the salt, but you know it will be gone soon.

ChinaMaine - Good job listening to your body and being kind to yourself!!

Kim in NH - you're doing terrifically well especially with the extra reno work!!

Nuxmaga - Good to see you! Yay for Zumba starting up again! Hope your back pain is nothing serious. Choir does rock ... I kind of miss it. I have a new one I'm accompanying this morning.

wndranne - Yay for 3.5 miles!!! Ouch on the meeting food ... but good for you for planning and reading response cards.

gardenerjoy - Hooray for new neural pathways and eating on plan!!

Kara - :hug: I think ups and downs are extremely normal. Repeat after me: "Oh Well" "Get Back On Track" "Oh Well" "Get Back On Track" :lol: I have been having tough times too and I think it's just part of the journey. It doesn't have to derail you completely if you just jump back on the wagon! Easier said than done, I know.

Bill - I think you're becoming the poster child for healthy locavore eating, LOL. Kudos for leaving food on your plate ... even guacamole ... that's nearly beyond belief around here! :)

Robin - Ouch for early wakeups. Hope they subside soon. Great job staying OP. Can you put some pot roast in a taxi and send it across the border? :lol:

Time to go get breakfast for myself and grumpy DD, who is allergic to morning like her father. Another nonstop rehearsal day but at least it's mostly at home.

09-16-2009, 09:46 PM
I did yoga, a lower body workout and walked Moose. I worked late, so moved after work from ‘my office’ to my sofa – a 18” commute. I didn’t use my CBT at all today, but I plan to tomorrow! When I read my cards I'll come up with a strategy for walking away from work for 15 minutes during the day. It’s been a quiet evening though.

:df: WI-down .7 lbs. (new low!) Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (47m).

Kim (in NH) Wow – lots of exercise, kudos! Grouting the hearth sounded it involved some heart-pounding suspense. ;) It’s cool you have fires all summer for your kids. They’ll have very fond memories of that when they are adults, I’m sure.

Margaret Yikes, I’m getting stressed out just reading your post. Hopefully the zumba will burn some of the stress off…

Anne Yay for a great bike ride follwed by a non-sucky day at work. Ouch for the craptasitck food day.

gardenerjoy Way cool you chose not to eat at Panera – I don’t think I could have done it. I’m impressed! Looks like you had an overall good day for food and exercise and the scale is being kind today. Credit!

Kara (Walking Princess) It takes consistent daily practice to do well most of the time. And I think all of us have mis-steps, but if you use mis-steps as a way to learn and change your behavior, the mis-steps can be a benefit. Anne said something a few months ago that’s really stuck with me. I’ll paraphrase, because I don’t remember exactly. But it was something like ‘I like to eat enormous quantities of food. Others have sugar or binging issues. No wonder this is hard. We all have to find our own path, and it doesn’t look like anyone else’s.’ Beck provides a framework and a set of skils to learn But we each have to craft them differently, because we each have a different set of things we deal with. Give yourself time and space to learn, and don’t hold yourself to an unrealistic standard. You are doing great.

Bill Did you have 5 servings of fruit and veggies with your lunch yesterday? That was an impressive litany of produce! Lol at your quote – truth is funny.

Robin Kudos for the pot roast and for doing well on food!

Erika I’m glad you are feeling more on track and I hope energy and feeling better follow.

09-16-2009, 11:05 PM
Hi All,
Zumba tonight, yay!! Credit for making it through to the end after a few weeks off. 3900+ steps, credit. Tracked food, credit. Calories over, bleah. I had lunch with my retired volunteer and although I chose the least evil entree, I did have dessert and she brought me a baggie of dove miniatures.

ChinaMaine--Yay for doing yoga! And for weight being down.

eusebius--glad you are starting to feel better. Accompanying a choir seems like quite a feat to me!

RobinW--congrats on fighting off the afternoon munchies. Those are the worst.

Bill--You consistently have the most delicious sounding lunches! That deserves a credit. And big credit for leaving rice and tortilla on your plate--I struggled to leave a little bit of my wrap today at lunch--you'd think it was food of the gods,instead of a mediocre bright red dyed tortilla. Oh, and to report, the chocolatier went out of business, and is now a unenticing office. There is justice in the world.

Walking Princess--You are in the learning process, not failing at weight loss. There's a big difference! Humans don't usually master skills instantly--and it's perfectly normal to go off track. I like the saying "Do the next right thing." If you are off track, what's the next right thing you could do? Even if it's as small as eating 1% less than last time, that's a victory.

gardenerjoy--Yay for new neural pathways! I've eaten peanut butter sandwiches in many many places, and it is so much better than hospital cafeteria food. And that's great you passed up Panera--nothing there is under a billion calories.

wndranne--Credit for 3.5 miles! I can't even imagine doing that.

onebyone--Glad to hear you get to sit in on the ceramic class, and that there was no pizza at work this time.

kim in nh--Wow, you had a grouting adventure! Grouting is usually where I procrastinate most when I make my mosaics.

kuhljeannie--Yay for packing a lunch and using "no choice"!

Royal Athena--Welcome!

09-17-2009, 12:37 AM
I never managed to make a food plan today. Today was a very low energy after yesterday's hospital adventure and its early start. I ate fine -- some of my healthy eating is getting to be habitual now. Still, I like how taking a minute or two to make a food plan in the evening eliminates dozens of small decisions during the day. Having a food plan improves my life, so I made one for tomorrow.

WI: -1.0kgs (new low!), Exercise: +34, 704/1200 minutes for September, Food: N/A, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

Walking Princess: sorry you're having trouble with this, right now. It will come back now that you're making yourself aware of it.

BillBlueEyes: good job on the ideal lunch for you! Those takeout burritos are HUGE, aren't they?

RobinW: good job on fighting off the afternoon munchies -- that's a tough one!

eusebius: good job for feeling more on track. I hope the energy returns, soon.

ChinaMaine: strategizing to walk away from work for 15 minutes sounds like an excellent idea! I printed up a sign that says Move More and put it above my desk. It's helped some.

Nuxmaga: so glad that the Zumba is back for you!

09-17-2009, 06:44 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Stellar eating at a pot luck dinner; CREDIT moi. This was event with eating number three out of five in a four night stretch!!! Tonight has two events with eating - the first one is catered by half a dozen local restaurants with choice food to advertise themselves. Wish me luck.

At gym (CREDIT moi) I realized that I really need to replace my work out Tee shirts with a smaller size. My original thinking was that gym didn't matter so they could be baggy. But baggy clothes block the good feeling about my body that I have when I'm wearing clothes that fit. Gotta shop the Good Will's and yard sales to find exotic stuff with Alaska or Virgin Islands or something.

Robin (RobinW) - LOL at discovering that your DH dislikes the vegetables, not the pot roast. Isn't marital communications wonderful, LOL. BTDT. Sending the sand man to keep your eyes shut longer each night.

ChinaMaine - Congrats for being able to work late when the sofa is only 18" away. Good luck finding a way to take short breaks during the day.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Yay for the return of Zumba. Kudos for the "least evil" choice for lunch. Methinks the Beck strategies are great for moving through the many many least evil choices encountered in real life.

Erika (eusebius) - Yay that healthy habits are re-established. LOL at "grumpy DD, who is allergic to morning" - mine was like that. I remember clearly getting snapped at for speaking to her in the morning.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Congrats on the new low scale reading. Yep, I also like that a food plan "eliminates dozens of small decisions during the day."

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight

Today you'll make your first Response Card, an essential tool that will help you change your mindset and overcome the sabotaging thinking that interferes with losing weight.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 54.

09-17-2009, 07:42 AM
Morning Coaches -

(insert curse words not suitable for 3FC here)... So much for being on track yesterday. I was, certainly, and then DH brought KFC home for dinner. ARGH! I could have just not eaten it. Stupid. OH WELL. GET BACK ON TRACK.

Especially frustrating considering I was on my third day on plan, and had gotten up at 5:30 all 3 days to exercise. Well, it will not happen again.

ChinaMaine - awesome job with exercise and staying on plan! Congrats on the new low!!

Nuxmaga - Yay for Zumba and well done making it to the end! I am with you on the calories. Here's to a new day.

gardenerjoy - Totally agree on the food plan. Congrats to you also on your new low!!

Bill - Kudos for great special event eating, and for the gym. Definitely time to treat yourself to a new t-shirt. Why not spend a few $$ on a quality moisture-wicking one! You've earned it. (Yes, I am a shopping enabler, LOL.)

Again posting between weight sets. These ab exercises feel god-awful after KFC. That'll teach me, right??

09-17-2009, 11:01 AM
kept looking for that ½ hr yesterday to write my post, and never found it. apologies! this one’ll have to be quick too…i’ve got a con call in 15 minutes. no rest for the wicked. :) it’s much harder to get my walking in with stuff to do at work. weird, huh?

kara, an observation – you went from “i overate my calorie allowance for a day or two” to “i’m too weak, must be failing, better beat myself up for a little bit” in a single jump! ouch! i’ve been up and down and on and off plan for almost two years now, and one thing that’s abundantly clear is that reprimanding myself like i’m a naughty child doesn’t a) improve my confidence, b) make me feel powerful, or c) help me figure out a better way to handle whatever caused the overeating in the first place. you’re doing FINE! it happens to EVERYONE! please be nice to kara right now – something’s going on with her and she’s having a tough time with it, so she’s turning to food. be a friend, not judge and jury.

finally cracked my copy of “the end of overeating”. wish i had more time to read. :)

credit moi – ventured downstairs to the new cafeteria, and struggled struggled struggled not to buy a doughnut. man, they looked good. employed the “how will i feel AFTER it’s gone?” technique and got through it. but they will be there tomorrow; i’ll go back to packing my breakfast and avoiding the place altogether in the mornings. my bag of chia arrived yesterday and am having a great time playing with different puddings. seems to go very well with almond milk, raw cacao and agave. YUM. and much better for me than doughnuts.

have to go! cheers, all.

09-17-2009, 12:31 PM
Good Morning :sunny:

Bill! Thanks for the sandman!! He came, did his job, and I slept until the alarm went off!

I just wanted to post a quickie right now....everything is good & the scale is moving in the right direction.

I have a little story to post about the last week and a half...but I'll do that later.

I may actually get out of the shop early today (because I was so befuddled the last couple days) I have everything done early! :lol:

Eating is op...exercise will commence in a couple days.

Oh! Erika....I was cured from eating KFC for forever after watching video of local a KFC restaurant that was infested with nasty critters! OMG!!!!! You can find very similar videos on youtube. But dont watch it if you really like KFC :lol:

Im off to starbucks to get coffee and lattes! Have a great day everyone!

09-17-2009, 06:31 PM
Coaches/Buddies Yesterday was right on plan. Today is good so far. Work continues to be OK, which is a huge help. Got back on the mountain bike today for the first time since my crash about 3 weeks ago. I had a nice time out there.

I'm giving a near-veggie diet another go. I feel better when I eat that way.

gardenerjoy Nice work on sticking to your plan with your St Louis Bread company stop! Here's to habitual healthy eating.

Kara I've been working on the new lifestyle for almost 7 years now, and frequently reset. Hang in and keep trying. It usually comes back for me.

BillBE I'm doing a big batch of lentils too. Yum. Nice work on the food leaving. You've earned those smaller T-shirts.

RobinW Sending sleepy vibes to get you through the morning. Looking forward to your story.

Erika Love the "allergic to morning" observation! Hope you get your energy back soon. Sorry about the KFC thing. You WILL get back on track.

ChinaMaine Way to go on the new low!!

Nuxmanga Hope you enjoyed Zumba!

Jeanie Hooray for out-thinking that donut!


09-17-2009, 10:22 PM
Hi All,
Well, my surgery consult was cancelled for the 2nd time today, and it will be another week until I have an appt. And I found myself thinking "Whatever snack you want, you can have it," but had enough Beck thoughts to reign that in. I resisted ordering chocolate chip pancakes for dinner, and although I ate every last bit of what I did order, it at least had nutritional value.

7500+ steps, credit. Tracked food, credit. Just a few calories over my goal for the day. I'm bar graphing my daily calories--it's a way to quickly see the trends, and it amuses me. . .

I need to get off the computer, but I did want to say Yay!!!! to Kuhljeanie for passing by the donuts. Donuts so have my number, so any resistance is a victory in my book.

09-17-2009, 10:50 PM
My little story.....

3 weeks ago I ordered 4 inch memory foam mattress topper from one of my fav. online shopping sites.

It came, we unrolled it, aired it out for 3 days like it said then put in on the bed.

First night was awesome!!! It felt sooooooo good on my back. Even my knee felt less stress by the day before yesterday.

Turns out this is the only positive thing that has happened with this mattress topper.

Im asthmatic but I havent needed my inhalers for more than a day or 2 when I had a cold, or the cats next door while visiting started to bug me. I have one inhaler Ive been using for the last 7 yrs!!! Never before heard of before I moved to Buffalo. Ok, anyway......

Ive got nerve issues in my leg, and hand

Ive got pain radiating across both my shoulders

Intense pain in my chest from anything I may have eaten that has artificial sweetener in it (this took about 3 days to figure out what was causing the pain)

Unable to focus or concentrate!!!

Unbelievably tired all day, but up at 5am for days!

Weird stuff with my stomach and how much food seems to fill it. (extremely little)

Hyper sense of smell.

General feeling of yuckiness and dont know why I feel so bad!

Yesterday morning I wake up and have an epiphany! Its the mattress! Im allergic to the mattress topper!!

Dh and I took the topper off the bed yesterday, and today its like night and day!!!

Unfrigginbelievable! Even my knee hurts again :lol: I can focus and concentrate on my work, I feel good, Im not tired the pain in my chest is gone, as is the pain in my shoulders!

Ive been doing alot of research on detoxing the body, only because I now know there is alot of crud in my body. Ive drank enough water the last couple days to sink a boat. I started the intense water intake before I figured out the mattress topper thing, because I thought I needed to flush out what ever was going on with me. Obviously I did!!

I also did some research on side effects from these types of toppers (memory foam). Seems its really hard to find this info. I managed to find one (only one) site that listed the side effects from these things. I was stunned!!!

I always read the reviews on products do quite a bit of research before making a big purchase like this. But I never thought to research side effects of memory foam! Wow! $150 lesson learned.

We've gone thru 2 boxes of baking soda on the bed trying to get the smell out of it left from the memory topper. Its getting there. We've been stripping the bed, pouring the soda on, and putting the fan in the window facing out. Its almost gone!

Its been interesting to say the least!

Moral of the story....if you are sensitive to chemicals, have allergies, asthma....stay away from the memory foam mattress toppers!

09-17-2009, 11:10 PM
I got a haircut this morning at a brand new place during it's Grand Opening. They gave away goodie packs to all their customers -- much of the goodies were candies. They all went straight into the trash when I got home. That's a first for me! It might have been tempting if it were good candy. But, it was maltodextrin-filled junk, so bad that I didn't even want to save it for any kids that I know -- they shouldn't be eating it either!

WI: +0.6kgs, Exercise: +70, 774/1200 minutes for September, Food: op, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

BillBlueEyes: congrats on the pot luck stellar eating! That sort of event is such a minefield. I hope your two-event evening went just as well.

eusebius: good for having a new strategy against KFC.

kuhljeanie: good job on resisting doughnuts -- that has been the most persistent craving for me, recently, but I've resisted as well. It is getting easier. It helps that my local supermarket just opened up in a new location -- I'm pretending that the new store doesn't have a bakery.

wndranne: so glad you were able to get back on the bike!

Nuxmaga: Yay for Beck thoughts reigning in the "whatever I want" urge! I love that the bar graph of calories amuses you. Whatever it takes!

RobinW: What an experience with the memory foam! I'm so glad that you figured that out. And thanks for the warning. I have multiple allergies and have worked hard to make sure that my bed isn't one of them!

09-17-2009, 11:24 PM
I did my upper body workout and walked Moose. I didn’t make the time to exercise during work today even though I worked 11 hours. This new project will eat me alive and leave me a husk if I give it permission to do so. This is my responsibility to make it work for me and still do a good job. Tomorrow is my last chance to try and create some reasonable boundaries and expectations for myself at work. If I don’t make time to walk away and exercise, it’s time to pull out the The Feel Good Handbook and reacquaint myself with CBT the old fashoned way. ;)

:df: WI-down 1.1 lbs. (new low!) Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (47m).

Margaret :yay: that zumba is back. Ouch for being over on calories. I have a bad memory – what’s the surgery consult for again?

gardenerjoy :yay: that healthy eating is getting to be a habit. I agree about the food plan – when I get away from it for a few days, I start making bad decisions. It’s worth the 10 minutes it takes… I like your sign idea, let me think about how I could do something similar, yet different. My living room is my office, so hanging inspirational signs isn’t in the cards. ;) But I might be able to something on my computer.

Robin Ouch for the memory foam. I’m glad you figured it out.

Anne Nice that food is back on plan, work is better, and you had a fun bike ride. The latter, especially, must make the world feel like a better place.

Kuhljeanie Good move to avoid the cafeteria for breakfast.

Erika Maybe it’s time to talk to DH about what he can do to help you be successful? I’m sure he’d want to help and may not really get how he can do so… Just a thought. :)

Bill Kudos for another potluck success story! Great idea to buy t-shirts that make you feel good about the size you are.

09-18-2009, 06:24 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - My Beck thinking carried me through two events last night. With the $50 ticket already paid, the spread from some dozen local restaurants was FREE food. But, I consumed mostly plants - including a to-die-for organic black bean burger (split with DW), a mess of grilled veggies from the tony place where I'd paid some $20 for that as my entree, a wad of salad, and one (1.0) small BBQ rib while my table mates were eating them in piles; CREDIT moi. And yes, I had a small piece of apple pie justified by eating the apples out of the middle and leaving the crust saying that that substituted for my evening snack of an apple, LOL. The Ben and Jerry's vanilla ice cream on top was justified by asking for a "small scoop" and stopping the scooper at "Are you sure that's all you want?"

Apparently, my justification muscle remains strong.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Yay for having work to do at work. Kudos for thwarting donuts with “how will i feel AFTER it’s gone?” early on in your relationship with that cafeteria. Now it knows its place; the pecking order is established. Proceed with life. What draws you to Chia seeds?

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats for getting back in the saddle. Kudos for being aware that "a near-veggie diet" makes you feel better.

Robin (RobinW) - What a story!!! You'd think such extreme reaction from memory foam would be better documented. You could run up a fortune in medical bills chasing that down. Congrats for figuring it out so quickly - don't think I'd have ever guessed.

ChinaMaine - Ouch for 11 hours of non-stop work with Moose in sight looking like a walk was needed. Good luck in setting your boundaries and expectations today.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for the full cycle: being aware of the sabotaging thought, "Whatever snack you want, you can have it," using your Beck strategies to kill it, and for giving yourself credit. The full hat trick.

Erika (eusebius) - KFC is evil. There was one three blocks from my bachelor pad where I'd drive to pick up an obscene amount quite frequently. My clucking muscle was in good shape.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Throwing away candy immediately is so cool - wish I could do that. Congrats for the courage to go to a brand new place for a haircut.

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight

. . .
Response Cards are index cards (or the equivalent) that contain important messages to help you counter your sabotaging thoughts.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 54.

09-18-2009, 08:44 AM
Morning Coaches -

I was OP with eating and exercise yesterday. I'm hoping this was not a freak occurrence. Tonight DD has a sleepover, so we are planning to go out to a TexMex place and then see a film. I have my menu planned in advance - a few chips & salsa, chicken fajitas, 1 glass of wine. NO popcorn. Perhaps I can still salvage this week.

Thanks everyone for the confirmation that yes, KFC is the most tangible evidence of evil on the face of the earth. There really is nothing worse.

Must run this morning - ridiculous amount of work to do today. :hug: to all my coaches.


09-18-2009, 10:25 AM
Good Morning - I just received my Beck book last night and am going to read it this weekend, the workbook is scheduled to arrive next week.

My main question is that I see the diet outlined in the book. I was first under the impression you pick a diet plan and then Beck's phsychology would help you stick to the plan.

I am wondering if I misunderstood. How many follow Beck's plan or another? I am undecided right now but looking at the plan a bit last night it seems like a good plan also. I have been trying to do low carb, however not much progress.

Thank you in advance.


09-18-2009, 12:12 PM
Hi Carla and :welcome3:

I follow my own plan (lower carb) but follow Dr. Beck's teachings. (most of the time) :lol: In her first book, there was the option to pick your own plan....the 2nd book outlined a plan to follow if you want to.

09-18-2009, 12:55 PM
Thank you for the reply, that is what I got was the second book. I couldn't afford all three so had to pick for now and took the second book and the workbook.

May I ask are you just doing your own lower carb or following one of the low carb plans?

09-18-2009, 02:15 PM
was doing atkins for quite a while, but now its pretty much no bread, pasta, white flour or refined sugar.

09-18-2009, 02:50 PM
My main question is that I see the diet outlined in the book. I was first under the impression you pick a diet plan and then Beck's phsychology would help you stick to the plan.

I am wondering if I misunderstood. How many follow Beck's plan or another?

Hi Carla - Welcome! I am on Weight Watchers right now. I have Beck's first book The Beck Diet Solution, which doesn't prescribe any specific diet plan. I believe it's the second book, Beck Diet for Life, which contains a plan to follow.

Regardless of which plan you choose, Beck's strategies can help you stay on it!


09-18-2009, 03:28 PM
I am excited to read about her strategies, in just purusing it a bit last night it looked very good.

I like how I feel on low carb but also would like something more family friendly and with church/school functions easier to stay on a plan.

Thank you for all your ideas and insite. I can't wait to get some time at home to read more on this thread of ideas and support.

I am looking forward to reading about this.

09-18-2009, 03:53 PM
carla, i also have beck's first book. i do calorie counting and have macronutrient ratios i try to hit (and i'm also eating mostly whole foods.) welcome!

hey everyone...they've got a GYM here! and i'm allowed to use it! i'm adjusting the plan to keep my calories a little higher and increase the activity to work with that. i'm just happier when i can eat more and not feel like i'm off-plan.

robin, YAY on figuring that out! my in-laws got a sleeper sofa that we used for the first time last x-mas with that foam topper, and i had a headache inside of an hour of (trying to) sleep on it. may have stumbled on something big. i'm also trying to lessen the bioburden of all the toxic crap everywhere but sometimes you gotta pick your battles, you know? found great paraben and phthalate free conditioner, eyeliner, not so much. am also less than enthused with tom's of maine deodorant, though i can wash it off which makes me think it's a better thing to put on my skin every day. sigh.

this is a flyby...happy weekend everyone! happy new year! tomorrow is the grand confluence of rosh hashannah AND talk like a pirate day. what are the odds???

Kim in NH
09-18-2009, 08:57 PM
Well, have I been here long enough to cry on your shoulders? Actually, I made it past that part. I got my cholesterol results and it was the same as last year. Too high. So all my changes; eliminated foods, reducing foods, eating new foods to combat this didn’t do a darn thing. I really was thrown for a loop. I was not hoping, but expecting a moderate drop. So there goes that. On my way to the bike trail I went through sad, mad, angry, denial (did they mess up the test?:?:), crazy (I’m getting it second hand from my kid’s hamburgers :dizzy:) and on and on. It was important to me and I had worked hard at it so it was disappointing. I know that a healthy diet is good for so many other reasons – I have no intention of going back to my old ways. Strangly, it is a sort of relief. I have been so focused on that and not so much on actually losing weight. Now I can. Recheck in 6 months, and with some weight gone (the one thing I have not changed! :doh:) perhaps the numbers will change but I’m not getting my hopes up this time.

So, still eating on plan even though I thought about a few indulgances with the bad news. Good cardio workouts on Wed. + bike ride and Friday with a rest day Thurs. Still on Day 10 of Beck as I had to find my muse again for the journey.

BillBlueEyes; I love hearing about your meals. You eat so well. Great thoughts on the gym clothes, something I always think of as superficial and unimportant but really is part of the process ~ look good/feel good/do good. You made some great choices through your two events. Nice to let yourself have a treat of apple pie too, and keep it reasonable and come away feeling good.

Kuhljeanie; Great using that technique to avoid a doughnut, and nice plan to just stay away from the cafeteria during that time. Sounds like the gym is going to be good for you! Too bad pirate day falls on a Saturday. I prefer my kids drive the teacher’s bonkers with that.

ChinaMaine; Love your 18” commute. DH and I work at home. Yes, get yourself up from your work periodically – it’s good for your eyes too!

WndrAnne; Yay for being back on the saddle again and for going the veggie route.

WalkingPrincess; What everyone said before me is right on – just asking yourself those questions means you are on the right track. Hang onto that self-confidence that you built and take some time with the book. In fact I am reading all the advice knowing at some point I will need just the same.

Nuxmaga; Yay for Zumba starting again, Incredible isn’t it? You can dance without a problem and then one sneeze puts you out, yep that’s 40. Really cool that you do mosaics by the way. I have to make my son choc. chip pancakes every weekend, a definite weakness for me. I now put ½ the batter in the fridge for the next day, so there is only enough for him.

Gardenerjoy; Good for you tossing that candy and I might make a card of your thought; “Having a food plan improves my life” – perfect and simple.

RobinW; amazing that you could track all that to your mattress topper! Too bad for your $$ investment, but by finding out you won’t be paying in the long run. I have a memory foam mattress (which I love) but when we first got it I did have concern about the syntheticity (should be word but who could say it?). I’m a believer that there are many many health issues caused by man made substances that we cannot pinpoint as we are surrounded by so much of it.

Eusebius; Yikes for KFC, but great for your back on track thoughts. I’m noticing consistently here a lot of the slip-ups for all of us start with “so and so brought me this”. I know we can’t live in isolation, and part of this journey is to learn to handle those situations. Not an easy thing, as I am finding too. I find after those meals I have to drink so much water due to thirst I feel sick and bloated. I imagine that ab work was no fun for you either.

Carla; Welcome!

Dr Oz said something today (oh am I hooked on that guy). He said, at the beginning of a diet to pick 3 days worth of meals (so 9 meals) and just repeat those to simplify things at the start. This makes a lot of sense to me. I find I am struggling to enter calories for every new meal, every day. Simple might be good for a few weeks, or until it gets boring.

Have a great evening everyone.

09-18-2009, 10:38 PM
Hi All,
8200+ steps and Zumba! I'm pleased I am still standing. Tracked food, credit. Went over calories--would've been under, even with eating out and wine, if I hadn't had some bad potato chips that were calling my name, in part because the tv jingle popped into my head. Bleah. Refrained from slurping up the tahini sauce at the bottom of the cauliflower delight at the Middle Eastern restaurant, credit. Refused a 3rd glass of wine, credit.

Kim in Nh--Ouch for the cholesterol not budging. How long have you been on your new healthy eating plan?

kuhljeanie--yay for finding the gym!!

carla--welcome! I have the first book, but I checked the 2nd one out of the library, and the biggest revelation for me was her starting with a 2400 calorie plan and working down from there. I always assumed I had to eat like 1200 calories to lose, but actually, being consistently at 2400 is enough for now.

Bill--congrats on your stellar buffet! Personally, anything with fruit doesn't truly constitute dessert, and I usually find it a let down. But if I could call it a fruit serving, apple pie would be just fine.

ChinaMaine--credit for planning to get the Feeling Good Handbook and CBT out. The Feeling Good book was a goldmine for me--I found it at a thrift store, and was just amazed by what I learned.

gardenerjoy--Yay for throwing out the goodie bag! When something is free, I'm appalled at what I'll eat!

09-18-2009, 11:00 PM
What a day its been! :wave:

09-19-2009, 12:15 AM
I ate off plan today. It was just one of those days that resisted being planned -- an appointment that ran over, an errand that I thought was optional that became critical. Oh well. I suspect I ate about as many calories as were on the plan. But fewer vegetables. That's been an advantage of planning -- I have been consistently eating more vegetables. Tomorrow should be better and I already made my plan.

I'm taking a break from the internet for a few days as part of a Fall Equinox Retreat. Hope you all have a great weekend!

WI: -0.35kgs, Exercise: +25, 799/1200 minutes for September, Food: off plan , Read my Advantages and Responses: no

ChinaMaine: Hope you're doing well with pulling away from work to get a bit of a walk in.

BillBlueEyes: Sounds like the event really did go rather well, eating-wise -- I suspect your humor will keep that justification muscle in check!

eusebius: glad you've had a good day under your belt and a plan to deal with the Tex-Mex

carla70: welcome! I'm pretty new to this. For the moment, I'm following a plan I made up for myself and using Beck's strategies to help me stay with it.

kuhljeanie: yay for the gym at your workplace! That is so cool!

Kim in NH: good job on not indulging after bad news. And sorry for the bad news.

Nuxmaga: sounds like you're really hitting it with the walking and Zumba!

09-19-2009, 07:06 AM
:welcome: Carla (carla70) :welcome:

And, in honor of your first post, :wel3fc:

How did you hear about the Beck books?

And how did you find this thread on 3FatChicks?

09-19-2009, 07:41 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Was an easy day after all the events with eating this week. Got Saturday in The Park ringing in my ear all day.

Eating and gym OP; CREDIT moi. Had an infrequent Group meeting at work. The Leader brought a pan of iced brownies. I didn't take one when the pan passed but was able to amuse myself for the entire meeting pondering the notion of political benefit of taking, not taking, or some variation of taking one and pretending to eat it. Finally decided that I should have taken one of the paper plates and a napkin and crumbled the napkin on the plate as if I were finished. Made it the best of a usually dull meeting.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Wow, a GYM at work is such a benefit for the head; think every company should do it. A bunch of people where I work use the gym in the adjacent building which gives us a discount on membership, but I prefer to go home and then walk to my local gym. If my kids were still little, methinks a work gym would be the only choice that would work. You've got me LOL at the thought of Rosh Hashanah services on talk like a pirate day - it's enough to make me want to convert just for a day.

Robin (RobinW) - Waving back. Looking forward - perhaps dreading - to hearing about "What a day its been!"

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for leaving the tahini sauce in the bowl; I've been known to slurp up that sort of thing - even been known to use a bit of bread to help in the task, LOL. Those TV jingles getting into the head is one of the evils of marketing. Wish there was a way to do selective lobotomy on the stuff we wish we'd never heard.

LOL at "anything with fruit doesn't truly constitute dessert." I'm a happy camper since I've made fruit my dessert of choice. It saves me a bunch of calories and, perhaps more important, helps me avoid that desire for more that I always feel after a confection thingy.

Erika (eusebius) - Sleepovers (at someone else's house) are the greatest invention of all time. Kudos for having your menu planned for the Tex-Mex restaurant as well as at the movie - appropriate reward for "a ridiculous amount of work."

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Yay for vegetables. Double Yay for planned vegetables. But Kudos for staying on calorie budget without them - not sure that I could do that.

Carla (carla70) - Neat that you've started on The Complete Beck Diet for Life, which is arranged as a five stage plan, and includes the Think Thin Eating Plan. You'll find that the workbook is the companion guide to the first book, The Beck DIET solution, which is arranged as a 42 day program. Both cover the same strategies. Different posters like one book or the other as their favorite. I used the first book before there was a second so I didn't have to make the choice, but I own both now.

Yep, you're right (as others have already said) that the first book suggests that you pick a diet and a backup diet from one of the many good ones available. I rolled my own eating plan when I started my new journey some two years before I discovered Beck. That worked for me because I simply chose my lifetime eating plan for my weight loss plan. So I didn't have a transition from dieting to maintenance and I didn't have to choose a goal weight - my body decided when it was the right size for the food I was eating. Later discovered that that's a strategy frequently used by people here on 3FC on the maintenance threads.

So you can choose from any good plan that will work for you, including the Think Thin Eating Plan. Good luck making that choice. It is one of Beck's neat ideas to have a backup plan for the day that you feel stuck and need a change.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Ouch for the disappointment in the cholesterol numbers, but Kudos for working your head back to a sane place by going through all the stages of grieving. It took about a year along my journey for my cholesterol numbers to improve (my HDL - "good" - dramatically increased, total and LDL were already low).

And Kudos for the good bike ride and cardio. I always picture your bike rides as along one of your scenic NH trails. We're starting to see some color down here in MA; are your Sugar Maples up there changing yet?

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight

. . .
They also help you motivate yourself every day so that you can stick to your diet, apply good eating habits, deal with hunger and cravings, resist emotional eating, and get right back on board when you make mistakes.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 54.

09-19-2009, 12:03 PM
Coaches/Buddies Sneaking in a quick post this morning while the children are out with DH. I have a zillion things to do. Running a 10K race tomorrow, so today is exercise free, except for the full on sprint that is my life, that started at 4:47 am this morning.

Eating went well yesterday, I have a mental plan for today. I'm posting, and have convinced myself that the food log I've kept for the last 7 years really isn't that big a deal and I need to keep doing it. Snit over. I hope.

Nuxmaga I like to graph all my food/exercise/weight data too. It is the nerd in me. Sounds like you did great with your dinner out.

RobinW Ouch on being allergic to the mattress topper, but glad you figured out what it was.

gardenerjoy Nice work on ditching the candies, and hope your haircut looks awesome!

Yes, some days just will not submit to planning!

ChinaMaine Good luck setting boundaries at work. Working on that one myself.

BillBE Nice work on the mostly plants! Love your thoughts during your meeting. It is also my experience that most meetings are just about that productive, LOL.

carla70 :welcome: I have both Beck books, but tend to go back to BDS (the first) most often.

kuhljeanie A gym! Nice! Thanks for the reminder about Talk Like a Pirate Day. I wouldn't want to miss it.

Kim in NH So sorry to hear that your cholesterol levels aren't behaving. Sometimes lifestyle changes take some time to work themselves in. Hang in there.


09-19-2009, 03:00 PM

Im still really struggling with my asthma. My lungs are just not happy. Ive had the windows open for days. I feel better when Im outside....seems this mess infested the house :(

Im off to relax abit.........have a great weekend everyone!

09-19-2009, 08:43 PM
Hello Coaches

I'm making myself post here as otherwise I am just sitting here crying. I don't know why today but after all the packing and the moving and the going back and forth and the cat arriving at my house and now roaming my house and making my cat hiss and growl continuously when she isn't off trying to find a corner of this place to just be in without the newcomer coming over to just sit near her, I have spent hours now off and on crying.

I am just so sad.

Really sad.

I knew the emotional dam would break. My mother moved to her seniors residence apt. yesterday, forever leaving the house she's lived in for a good 15 years now and before her my grandmother lived in that house. It's not the house I grew up in (my grandmother raised me) but I think I am processing the loss of my grandmother and the loss of this stage of my mother's life, and the enormous fear I have for her future, (she is in the early stage of alzheimer's, and moves are said to really trigger the disease and/or reveal its real state we were told by Experts), and the (imagined) emotional stress she is carrying right now. I couldn't get out there to visit her today as the cat escaped the confines of his room, like a week before I thought I would let him out, so there goes the slow gradual introduction to my own territorial cat.

Yesterday I took care of her two cats with my friend and we dropped one at her house and one came to my house. It can be a temporary thing as the same person who took George the cat would take Caesar, the cat that's here, but for now Caesar needs antibiotics 2x a day as he had 9 teeth extracted on Wednesday. He's fine though for all of that but I couldn't send him off to a new owner with the extra burden of having to administer medicine to him too. it's all just too much. The medicine will last a week so we'll see where we are at when it's done. I am BY FAR the most stressed creature in this house. I am falling apart. I feel like I have a hole in my solar plexus so deep and so old it just aches. For one of the very very rare times in my life I am reminding myself to eat. I NEVER lose my appetite. Today it's gone but I suspect my blood sugar is very low and that contributes to feeling sad and anxious so I will eat this yukky looking frozen dinner.

Anyway, I'm not crying right now so thanks for that. Being open and vulnerable like this is always an opportunity to heal some ancient hurt so maybe I'll be blessed with that in the end.

Better go. Thanks for reading.

09-20-2009, 06:48 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Aye I'm hopin' ya survived Talk Like a Pirate Day, me hearties. By the Powers!!!

Bought my first Delicata Squash of the season at the Farmer's Market; CREDIT moi - a delightful way to begin the fall here on the first day that I'll face breakfast with no blueberries. If you haven't already fallen in love with Delicata give it a try. The skin can be eaten right along with the sweet flesh. I love them.

onebyone - Sending supportive thoughts while you process the sadness. Your mother's move does seem like a single step, specific acknowledgment of the slow transitions going on in her life. Kudos to you for being aware of the source of your feelings and for not dumping them onto a convenient scapegoat like body image. I share your hope that allowing yourself to process opens the opportunity for healing "ancient hurt."

And sending supportive thoughts to the cats under your care. You're a kind soul to treat them with such respect.

Robin (RobinW) - Waving back. Ouch for challenged breathing; hope the weather co-operates for you to stay outside until you're cured.

Anne (wndranne) - Good luck in your 10K race today. I have this image of you running 10K to get a rest from the "sprint that is my life."

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight

There'll be plenty of times when your resolve will falter and you'll have sabotaging thoughts, such as:
• Is dieting really worth it?
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55.

09-20-2009, 09:37 AM
Friday I did yoga, core and walked Moose. I was op in terms of calories and ate only what I planned. I did have an extra glass of wine though (self-medicating for anxiety I’d guess). Saturday it was a long walk and an upper body workout. I also did a lot of spontaneous walking.

DHs next big diy project is to finish the front entrance into our house. We have a pergola outside the front door, but otherwise it looks like construction just finished: bare ground, not graded, etc. We want a nice walkway, big stone steps, and a raised bed under the pergola made with stone walls. We drove to a couple of places that sell stone near us to get an idea of cost and the kinds of materials that are available nearby. It was a lot of fun discussing the possibilities. I think he has enough info now to do some online research, so we can see if it is feasible to think about doing all this now.

I didn’t manage to take a break again during the day on Friday. So, I got The Feeling Good Handbook ( out. I’ve started reading chapter one. I should be on the path to positive change there... Sleeping has been terrible the last couple of weeks too, I’m hoping that it is part of the same underlying problem. That is, when I CBT away my sabotaging thoughts during the day, it’ll also help me sleep better at night. :crossed:

:df: WI-up 1.1 lbs. Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (58m).

Bill Belay that matey! It’s talking like a pirate day in our house every day. I will look for a Delicata squash – the name is certainly entrancing. Lol at the politics of meeting food. :D

one by one :hug: I am very sorry about what you are going through. It has be very wrenching. Take care of yourself. :hug:

Robin Yikes – I hope your house airs out soon. It’s getting too chilly to sleep outside. ;)

Anne ‘ the full on sprint that is my life, that started at 4:47 am this morning’ :) I hope the race goes well today!

gardenerjoy Credit for staying in the right calorie range without being specifically op. Good luck eating those veggies! :yay: for seeing your weight moving in the right direction.

Margaret Kudos for not slurping the tahini sauce. ;) and credit for the steps and zumba – it must burn a ton of calories.

Kim (in NH) Ouch about the cholesterol test. I have to do that soon myself. I’m on statins for cholesterol, but have been eating much better for 9 months now, and exercising. I’m hoping I can go off the statins completely. So I have taken a break from taking them daily so I can see what my cholesterol levels are without them. But I know that, like you, some folks don’t respond to diet and exercise.

That said you are right there are plenty of other good reasons to eat well (e.g. cancer prevention…) Good luck finding your Beck muse again soon.

Carla :welcome3: I use the second book (with the diet included). I don’t use her diet; I’d rather lose weight eating in the way I’ll eat for the rest of my life. I count calories to help me to determine how much I can eat. The skills she introduces really can be used with any diet. I do use one part of her diet, though. She has a formula that gives you a starting # of calories. In addition, as part of her diet she indicates how many calories she recommends for meals and snacks. I use the total calories, and suggested calories per meal as a guide when I’m making my plan for the day. Otherwise, I’ve ignored her diet.

Erika :yay: for being op for food and exercise on Thursday. Hope the same happened over the weekend too.

09-20-2009, 06:50 PM
Afternoon :wave:

Just heard from my brother today...he's having a relapse with the serious stress/depression breakdown he had 2 yrs ago. He's scared enough to get himself to the dr's. So thats good.

Food for me is on plan, even getting some walking in with dh.

My body is healing. But very slowly. The pains are less, my lungs seem a bit happier. Ive been drinking water, green tea and lemon water by the gallons. Aside from my fur covered tongue, I think its working. The fur is telling me stuff is making its way OUT of my body. Exactly where I want it to be.

Ended up being a rather quiet weekend...lots was planned, but I scaled it way back. Back far enough where I could take a nap this afternoon :lol:

Back to it tomorrow.....Have a great Sunday evening everyone!

09-20-2009, 07:42 PM
Hi Coaches

I made it to the farmer's market with my artwork today and sold enough to make me go back again next Sunday. I felt better this morning but still mopey and kind of tentative, as in not sure about things or how things are, a little bit less confident than usual you know? Anyway I'll take that over a gushing open wound of sadness for sure.

There is progress between the cats. Kitty X, the original cat, is much calmer. Her stady growl had progressed to a low growl is she sees Caesar and a hiss if he dares make eye contact. I consider this fantastic. No claws, no chasing, they even ate in the same area, about 1 foot apart, eye to eye and Caesar backed off after having a few bites. I think he's a genius cat.

Okay going now. More later.

09-20-2009, 09:47 PM
hey all - realizing that i've gotten away from food planning since i went back to work. makes it much harder to stay within my calories. yeah, i know about where i am at any given moment, and since i switched to gowearfit i can log online all day and that helps - but i'm not doing it for the week like i was a few months ago, and it makes things harder. i should be doing it now (while sitting at the computer next to the monitor, watching el nino thrash around and yell instead of fall asleep. sigh) but i'm mentally drained. want to just zone out in front of the TV when he finally crashes and i'm relieved of my post. argh. (that's a pirate "argh," BTW.) will push the task of menu planning to tomorrow - here's to hoping i have time at work.

onebyone, :hug:. i understand. still getting knocked upside the head unexpectedly with grief myself. you know what i've learned? (insert drumroll) grief really sucks. i'm reading a book by this psychic who does readings on XM radio in the mornings. i know, i's kind of intellectually trashy, but i don't care. anyway, one of her big things is that people's bodies deteriorate and die, but the soul never does. i had a dream thursday night that i was watching a movie at my mom's house, and my dad was hanging out with me on the couch. in the dream i asked him how he was there, since he's been dead for almost 9 years - and he winked and smiled like he used to. it was so HIM...i woke up feeling happy. not sure what you believe (not even sure what i believe, to be honest) and i'm certainly not saying that it makes what happned to him okay, but i'm glad i live in a universe where it is entirely possible that souls really don't die - it's just the form they take here that gets messed up sometimes. well, always.

all right's to a good week!

09-20-2009, 11:03 PM
The run was hard and apparently I was ready to get sick, so sick I got. Will check in tomorrow.


09-20-2009, 11:08 PM
A quick check-in. 11,000+ steps, credit. Tracked food, credit. Stayed under calorie goal today, credit. Ordered chinese broccoli with garlic, rather than something fried, and left half the rice--and it was very tasty too--credit.

Feeling aimless and stressed which is usually a trigger for snacking, so I'm glad that I've managed to keep that at bay. Did some knitting--that often helps.

Good night all!

09-21-2009, 07:05 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did well with eating all day, CREDIT moi, until a bowl of mixed nuts called my name in the evening. You'd think I'd never seen mixed nuts before. Oh Well.

Had a legitimate reason to stop in Whole Foods on my walk; sampled a HUGE chunk of swordfish right off the grill. On occasion that place does a top notch sample.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Argh indeed for a kid who thrashes rather than goes to sleep. I was always told that they'd eventually crash, but I never believed it when I was on duty and felt like I would be there all night.

Would seem like your father in you knew you needed a touch of happiness at this moment. Good for you for accepting that.

onebyone - Yay for good art sales even as you continue to process the real feelings about your mother. LOL at your life with drama kitties; hope you survive.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for taking a nap! And Kudos for scaling back when that's what's needed. Sending supportive thoughts to you, your brother, and family for dealing with his relapse.

Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for sick. Kudos for doing the run anyway.

ChinaMaine - Yay for "spontaneous walking." That's been one of the benefits to me for losing some pounds - I just walk when opportunities arise. Even in little ways like taking something upstairs right now rather than put it on the stairs to grab on the next trip up.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for ordering well and leaving food on your plate at the restaurant. Ouch for "stressed." At least you're not alone; Apparently this is the stressed Beck thread at the moment.

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight

There'll be plenty of times when your resolve will falter and you'll have sabotaging thoughts, such as:
. . .
• Resisting this food is too hard.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55.

09-21-2009, 07:53 AM
Thank you all for the wonderful welcome. I have never posted on a board that had such a nice welcome.

I did terrible this weekend, I think it was that going to start diet monday mentality that was getting to me. I read some of her book and diet. I do not know that I have the time to do all her diet and the way she recommends to do it. I know for a fact I am terrible at tracking my calories and such. However I was looking at the carbohydrate addicts diet and dont' feel that one is one I can follow for life either. So in reading her book and some posts on here I am going to start with her formula for starting calories and counting my calories eveyr day. I am also going to start using the Wii Fit again regularly and plan it in my week.

I was glad to read in ChinaMaine's post that she follows the counting of the calories and baseline for each meal but otherwise doesn't do the beck diet. I maybe should be disciplined enough to plan ahead a week but I just am not at this point. So tracking my food and exercise along with her workbook and the book is where I will start.

If anyone has any comments if they think I should do anything different or if I am setting up wront please let me know.

I love this board, it is so friendly.

09-21-2009, 10:03 AM
I slept badly both Friday and Saturday night, leaving me tired yesterday morning. I toyed with the idea of canceling a planned trip to Camden for a hike. But, I took a 20 min power nap and headed out. I’m so glad I did – it was a fantastic day. We took a 2 hour hike with 700’ elevation change. The view was beautiful – the ocean, lakes and miles and miles of trees so dense it looked as though you could stroll across the top of them. It’s the kind of hike I’ve been dreaming of – :yay:

Afterwards we headed to Camden to enjoy a glass of wine and a view of the harbor. It was after 5 and we were starving. The only item they had on the menu that was gluten free was Nachos. When they told us they were out of Nachos I asked if we could get a cheese and fruit plate since, they didn’t have anything else I could eat. He broght a plate with a lot of fruit, and a ton of cheese. I decided to eat cheese until I was full, but still probably ate more than I should have. (I did have lots of fruit though…) We decided to eat half of our planned dinner at around 8:30 since we had eaten so much earlier. I ended up being okay for calories, but I think I probably could have made some better choices.

:df: WI-(no weigh-in) Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (120m).

Robin I hope things improve for your brother soon. And I hope you keep feeling better, too.

one by one Glad you were feeling a bit better yesterday. Hope the improvement builds during the coming week.

Kuhljeanie You’ve been through a lot the last few weeks. You are right, your diet will go better if you plan each day’s food ahead of time. But, also give yourself more time to get back into the routine of it, if that’s what you need right now.

Anne Hope you are feeling better today.

Margaret Credit for the great choice at the Chinese restaurant – I find Chinese to be one of the most challenging from a diet perspective. Even the healthy sounding foods can have tons of hidden fat and sodium. Kudos for recognizing a trigger for snacking and successfully dealing with it.

Bill Tell the mixed nuts – belay that! You don’t need to hear their manipultive whining. ;)

Carla Good luck on starting Beck today. I’d recommend concentrating on her skills at first, rather than on dieting. If you learn to apply her skills consistently (but not perfectly), you will succeed on your diet. If you don’t take the time to learn the skills, it will be more difficult.

09-21-2009, 12:01 PM
I am working on skills of Beck's now and following the workbook. I am making healthy choices and watching portions. I am also working on preparing my calorie/meal notebook for when I start tracking food more consisely.

In the back of my mind I keep wondering if by doing that and following her advice if I would succeed. But also remember reading that I need to do those things to succeed now also. So the book is sinking in as those thoughts are discussed and how I overcome those.

09-21-2009, 12:47 PM
Good Morning Coaches

I got a phone call from my sister that my brother waited for me to catch a ride to my mother's house at 7:30 this morning and I didn't show..what was up with that? I had no answer for her. It was sort of a vague understanding that I would go, to me anyway, but not to anyone else. i guess since I didn't talk to anyone yesterday and I got so down over the weekend it just sort of faded from my mind, which has been completely taken over by the comings and goings and growliness of the two cats under this roof. I did get to witness genuine aggression in Kitty X when not one but two neighbourhood free range kitties came and peeked in the screen door. Kitty X raised her fur while growling at them and rushed the door. She didn't do either of these postures with Caesar so there is a big difference to her between these cats.
So many cats. I am sure there is cat fur on my neural connections, causing fuzzy thinking and logic for the coming week or so.

DH is Caesar's person. He's jumped on his lap while he's downstairs on the computer numerous times now (and walked across the desk and onto the keyboard of course) and has even pulled himself up by DH's bathrobe collar and onto his shoulder where he stood straight up and launched himself down from there. He is a total cat.

Oh you guys must be fed up with all this cat talk. I am looking for continuous progress between the two as we leave for DH's brother's wedding one week from this Friday and they will be alone together. Yikes? Not sure if it will be a yikes situation or not.

Today I am out to visit my mom in her new place. I haven't seen it yet. Precipitating my emotional outpouring was news of a bad first night for my mom on Friday but today I hear tell she's visitied someone else's apt already and is thrilled to report that she's the only one with a flat screen tv.

So progress on all fronts is being made.

I missed one weigh-in on Sunday to my surprise, but I weighed myself, once only credit, this morning: 277.4. I am remarkably stable again at this high weight. I've been sitting here for 2 months now: 268-277. Perhaps next week I'll finally get a routine together. Every week since the end of my children's tech job has been a unique series of events. My sister returns to Key West on Wed this week and the house is being emptied out. We found a good local realtor and all signs point to the house being sold in the next month or so. Anyway it's all getting done slowly but surely. I haven't done a thing to further my weightloss/health goals. but, oddly enough, I am not eating my face off either. credit

I have to run but wanted to respond to Carla70 First off :wave: hello and welcome. I read your post and the GREAT thing about Beck is there is no doing it wrong. Beck is a way to think sanely about foods and foodplans and how to live well and reach your weightloss/health goals while sticking to a foodplan of your choice. The behaviours we choose around food and eating follow us no matter the plan we choose which is why we focus on the behaviour. My advice is to choose one behaviour like "don't eat after 9pm" or whatever that one thing is that springs to mind for you that is a gut level good thing to do and try to do it consistently, successfully, and don't be in a mad rush to get to "the end" (what is that anyway?). follow her book, do the exercises and let it sink in. it's really worth and probably why i am not eating my face off!

good luck.

have a good monday becksters.

09-21-2009, 01:33 PM
Coaches - Last week is over, and this week is a new one. That's all I'm going to say (other than the eternal refrain: OH WELL. GET BACK ON TRACK.) I'm lucky only to be up 1 lb and I'm determined to stay centred this week, sticking to the Beck behaviours I know work for me.

just a couple of personals:
Carla - you are doing great! I think calorie counting is a good way to go -- maximum flexibility, and you can always combine it with other habits/nutrition ideas as you go. Stick with Beck and you'll go places ;)

onebyone - I never get tired of cat talk. Literally. I have a Siamese, so my cat talks to me all day. I'd like to know her secret; she's never been more than 8 pounds her whole life (15 years)!

OK, back to work for me. The Yeti can't get me as long as I remain present ...

09-21-2009, 02:34 PM
:wave: going home for a nap before my meeting.

food is right on...what there is of it. Water is good and walked to work.

09-21-2009, 05:10 PM
i’ve been at a dead stall for almost 6 months as i’ve been sliding and sloshing around somewhere in calorie counting /whole foods land, and it ain’t working. too much on-the-fly decision-making. i love the idea of eating CSA and farmer’s market fresh veggies and proteins, cooking healthy, balanced food every night for dinner, and having ready-to-go-lunches that i’ve made on Sunday night. the reality is that i just don’t have time for that at this point in my life. too much Michael Pollan etc., and i’ve got so many rules around what’s OK to eat that i’ve literally ruled out most of the things that made my original program so successful. time to rethink it. i can’t afford to go back to bistro, but what i’m doing right now isn’t working either. i need to give up the idea that everything that goes into my mouth is whole, organically-grown, no artificial anything, very few convenience foods. for pete’s sake – this weekend i didn’t even have time to get to the store! too unrealistic. i lost most of my weight eating a lot of prepared, fake diet foods, and i liked them. so. understanding it’s not the best and most healthy thing i can do for myself – but continuing to be 40 lbs overweight ain’t all that healthy either, and neither is the stress i’m creating for myself with unrealistic expectations of what i can do. so.

will restructure my plan with packaged and frozen meals, cooking the CSA veggies for sides on the weekends, mail-order what i can (which is a lot!) and every two or three weeks supplementing with jeanstro meals as i can work them in. i’m going to go back to bistro macros (40-30-30) and calories (1600-1700) and i’m also going back to 5-6 meals and snacks (had switched to Jillian-recommended 4.) this week will have to deal as best i can, but there you go. public declaration. will also go back to the exercise i was doing when i was losing – running, and a lot of it! wii ea sports active as time permits, and my daily walk, which i can almost always get to.

personals tomorrow…thanks for letting me think this out!

09-22-2009, 07:11 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Skipped my morning snack at work. That's twice in the past year I've done that. Hoping it's a trend toward not thinking about food every minute of my life. Fulling expected, of course, to see an impact on the scale for the 120 calorie deficit for the day, LOL.

At gym (CREDIT moi) I worked on my mount and dismount for my sets of push ups, figuring that since it's difficult to gracefully get back on my feet there must be some muscles in need of being worked. I'm reminded of my last time downhill skiing while at weight when I was embarrassed that I had difficulty getting up from a fall. Need to get back on ski's and see if I've improved.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Kudos for recognizing where you are and making decisions - the very kind of stuff you'd advise your professional clients. I share the awareness that it's easy to take on so many good-for-me constraints that I can lose the battle while I struggle with the tactics. It's good to hear that Jeansto meals will be part of the picture.

onebyone - Kudos for giving yourself credit for holding your own during this stressful period. Hope you visit to your mother's new place went well yesterday. I'd think that the energy you invested in dealing with your grief will help when you confront the reality.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for napping at midday. Methinks your European background is showing, LOL.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for asking the restaurant for what you needed. Ouch for getting "a lot of fruit, and a ton of cheese" - that would have been hard for me to face. I'm drooling over your hike; Maine is such a gorgeous place.

Erika (eusebius) - That's it; we'll all make a fortune peddling your new book, The Siamese Cat Diet: sleep half the day, chatter non-stop while awake, and find someone to take care of all your worldly needs. Strong marketing appeal there.

Carla (carla70) - Kudos for continuing to read your Beck and practicing the strategies in preparation for changing your eating plan. Beck emphasizes that the strategies learned initially are the most crucial part of her plan - things like reading your Response Cards daily, eating sitting down, eating mindfully, and planning ahead at least one day.

Yep, planning ahead for a week may be an advanced strategy, but planning ahead one day is doable; good that you can start there. The big deal is to discover how much easier it is to stay on plan when you don't have to make some 100 choices about food - it's the plan, NO CHOICE.

And Kudos for choosing Wii Fit as your exercise plan. Posters here make that sound like good fun as well as a good workout.

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight

There'll be plenty of times when your resolve will falter and you'll have sabotaging thoughts, such as:
. . .
• I don't think I really want to do this.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55.

09-22-2009, 07:50 AM
Morning Coaches -

OK, 1 day down. I can't believe how difficult it was to get back to this point, but I am back. That's it!!! I need to stay on track now.

I am quite exhausted, whine whine whine. (No cheese with that, please.) The issue right now is the 3 different concert programs in 1 week. One of these was yesterday, so at least it's gone. There were 9 people there (ouch!!!) Classical music marketing: fun times.

Posting again in between weight sets.

Robin - Nice job staying OP!!!

kuhljeanie - Good for you to recognize that perfectionism is as debilitating in dieting as it is in most everything else. (Ask me how I know this ... no wait, don't get me started.) For me I find the Amy's and other organic frozen meals to be a good compromise - lower in sodium generally than the other convenience foods, and tasty. However, I would love to try a Jeanstro meal!! We are all behind you!!

Bill - Interesting that you skipped the morning snack ... I too have "not thinking about food every minute of my life" as a goal. I think the book title has to be: "Siamese Cats Don't Get Fat" (and they are smarter than French women!!)

My DD had a book from the library called "Clever Cat" about a kitty who was so smart that he could open cans and work the TV remote. His owner made him get a job to pay his share of the rent. Finally he got really clever and played dumb, so he could go back to sleeping all day and getting fed. The other cats gave him a "been there done that" look and said "you're just figuring this out now?"

Off to finish my weights and prepare for a very. long. day of teaching. Stay in the moment ...


09-22-2009, 10:18 AM
Good Morning :wave:

It still amazes me how depleted I feel. Its almost as if Ive had the flu and started coming know when you start to feel good? Then you do too much and you just feel cruddy? That's how I've feeling since we took the mattress topper off the bed. :( I sure hope this lets up soon.

It is also effecting my food intake. Both good and bad. Im not hungry, but I can only eat very small quantites of food. Otherwise it seems to mess with my lungs. So Ive been sticking to protein shakes and smoothies.

Ive also cut out the just feels like the caffeine bounces around in my body and doesnt have any place to go.

Hubby let me sleep in this morning....hopefully I'll make it thru the speed networking this afternoon! :eek:

Have a great day everyone!

Kim in NH
09-22-2009, 08:30 PM
Hello everyone,
Just a quick fly by to say hello and that I have not fallen off the Beckwagon. I decided to change my diet after no loss for two weeks, and I have spent a bit of time researching that.

Tomorrow is a not so busy day for me so I will be back with individual hellos then.

Good night!


09-22-2009, 09:28 PM
made it thru the speednetworking...then came home and slept until 7:30 :lol:

09-22-2009, 10:25 PM
another flyby - work is getting stressful again. this is the part i didn't miss...too many people and projects, too many things that i seem to be the only one with the right knowledge/skillset to do. straight from work to class. i overate today, knew i was doing it, felt powerless. not a binge, just constant overwhelming desire that i gave in to several times, taking me over my calories by a good 400. now i'm stressed about my overeating today and wondering if i'm going to have to deal with fighting more desire tomorrow in addition to the non-food-related stress. sigh. OH WELL! sorry about no personals!

09-22-2009, 10:29 PM
Hello Coaches

I got back about an hour ago from my mother's now almost completely empty house. There was an unexpected opportunity to bring some of the furniture to my place and I took it. So now my grandmother's treadle singer sewing machine is coming as well as her buffet hutch (I let the table and chairs go and my mother has the sideboard in her place-more on that in a minute). I also opted to take the 1940's vanity that was mine as a kid and an old wooden table with a drawer (love that) that will be mine in my new "pottery studio" soon to be in my basement. The movers were from St. Vincent de Paul and they have been fantastic. This morning they were gathering the furniture and said they were heading to my town on Thurs and they would bring my stuff, whatever I wanted, and for me to "pay them whatever is in my heart".

You just can't ask for better than that.

So I have tomorrow afternoon to figure out what the heck I am going to do and where I am putting stuff. I have so many boxes of stuff piled high and that's in every room. I have had to do a major cleaning for years. Apparently I am going to focus a bit on that tomorrow. It doesn't have to be perfect it just has to be enough for them to lift and carry stuff and put it down. I have to move all my market stuff from the entry way and the hallway and it's a lot of stuff. I am hoping they will take my unloved green velvet-y love seat. ICK. Would love to see that go byebye:wave:

So I visted my mother's place. It's like she's living in a hotel. The weird part are all the electric scooters parked in the hallways plugged into the wall. I don't know why that shocked me but it did. Interesting. Her apt is very swanky and her cat is so so happy. He likes to be by himself with my mom. I'll be visiting her again soon. I'd like to move in. She seems pretty happy as 4 ladies immediately befriended her and took her under their wing. It's so great for her. She was very isolated at her house and there it's a true community. You can feel it. I think. Anyway that's my first impression; all good.

I have to go now. Just wanted to check in.
Have a good evening gang.

09-22-2009, 11:39 PM
Coaches/Buddies Hanging in with the sickness. It is just a nasty virus, but my voice is now going in and out. I never do well with food when I sick, so I'm doing the best I can, and cleaning up the mess later. It happens. Credit moi for doing the best I can, and planning for later.

Nuxmanga Congrats on putting off eating when you are stressed and aimless. That is huge!!

BillBE Smiling at your swordfish and the giant hit of mercury you just took. Ouch. I've been skipping that morning snack myself, just due to business, and I think it bites me in the rear later in the day. Hope yours is a more natural skip. LOL on the pushups mount and dismount. I look forward to hearing about this torture now that you've got lunges down.

Carla70 Good luck on settling into your diet. I know I do better when I'm following Beck's advice.

ChinaMaine I think your fruit and cheese plate sounds inspired. Sorry it turned into a cheese and fruit plate.

onebyone :hug: on making it through your family situation. It sounds trying.

Erika You and I can hop right on kuhljeanie's wagon and just get *rolling rolling rolling*. The first day is wonderful. I find about 3-4 days gets me back in a habit. Why would that be so hard? I guess that is the whole trick.

RobinW Good on the water and walk yesterday.

kuhljeanie I'm with you on getting back with what works. I think whole, healthy food is a fine goal, but not if it comes at the expense of your weight goals. I know that isn't a popular stand, but I'm always a moderate in these things.

Sorry about the work stress. I feel for you.

Kim in NH I like that you are re-evaluating your food plan. Smart.


Walking Princess
09-23-2009, 01:00 AM

Just wanted to let you know I haven't disappeared off the face of the earth. I am trying to refocus and "get my groove back". I'll be back in a few more days. Hope you all understand. I just need to re-focus so I can continue on my journey.

Be back soon

09-23-2009, 06:13 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Happy Autumnal Equinox (yesterday). OK, self, kindly accept that summer is over and just move on with your life. Stop whining about the blueberries. They're gone. Embrace the fall crop. Dinner last night featured Delicata Squash baked with a touch of Trader Joe's Pumpkin Butter - soooooooo good. CREDIT moi for eating well.

Bought a quarter cup of Nutritional Yeast from the local Health Food store. Was a bit concerned at $29/pound but it was only 31 cents, LOL. Tried it on my basil pesto spaghetti for lunch. It was good; a worthy enough substitute for Parmesan cheese, particularly since it's shelf stable so I can keep the Ziploc baggie in the food section of my bookcase at the office.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Yay for being in demand at work; Ouch for over-demand. Here's hoping you can find the right way to sign up for a day's work each day and let the overflow be someone else's problem.

onebyone - Neat to get some childhood memory furniture into your life even at the price of fighting some clutter issues. Glad to hear that your mother is happy in her new place - community replacing isolation just gotta be good.

Robin (RobinW) - Ouch that you're still feeling depleted, but Kudos for getting whatever sleep you need to combat it. That's a lot of fallout from a few nights on a mattress cover.

Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for the lingering virus; perhaps you can delegate to your DH the yelling at the kids, LOL. Yep, as I understand it, that "giant hit of mercury" remains with me until I'm cremated when it's returned to the atmosphere where everyone gets an equal chance to be its next host.

Erika (eusebius) - Kudos for getting back on track, especially in the week with three concert performances. Good luck with the overload. I do like your book title, "Siamese Cats Don't Get Fat" (and they are smarter than French women!!) And love the story of the Clever Cat from your DD's book.

Kara (Walking Princess) - You are in the right place posting here; it's definitely the "get my groove back" thread.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Kudos for posting and staying on the "Beckwagon." Hope the changeup works for you.

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight

You will need to learn how to combat these kinds of sabotaging thoughts in a strong, forceful way. Otherwise, you might very well follow your old path of giving up when the going gets tough.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55.

09-23-2009, 07:58 AM
Work is still very stressful, but I anticipate it will drop off to a dull roar later this week. I’ve been reading The Feeling Good Handbook a little bit every day. My thinking is starting to fall into line, as is my behavior. Although I’ve worked 10-12 hours per day, I did manage to take a break Monday for a walk, and yesterday to eat lunch. My sleep is still disrupted, but I think it is all improving incrementally.

:df: WI-up .8 lbs (since Sunday) Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (Mon-56m / Tues-47m).

Bill Nutritional yeast – never heard of it. But having googled it, it seems interesting. It tastes good?

Kara (Walking Princess) Hello again – here’s to getting your groove back. :wave:

Anne I hope you feel better – it’s great you can plan for getting back in the groove later, rather than beat yourself up now.

one by one I’m heaving a huge sigh of relief that your Mom’s place sounds so nice, both physically and socially. :yay:

I have another busy day ahead of me, so I’ll try to get back into the personals groove tomorrow. :wave: to everyone I couldn’t get to!

09-23-2009, 08:49 AM
Morning Coaches -

Well, I'm on day 3 now, so a habit should be starting shortly ... wndranne, I think you're right about that. Craziness continues, but at least it's slowing down a tiny bit ... I will get a chance to get my hair coloured today, and tomorrow I have only one lesson so far. I plan to take it very slow tomorrow (other than weights) and just chill. Oh, how I need that.

Walk (with run pickups) done for the day. Now just to keep on track with eating. We did a good grocery run last night, so I feel well stocked.

:wave: and :hug: to everyone. You folks are the best.

Kim in NH
09-23-2009, 10:32 AM
After 2 weeks with no loss I had to look at my diet. I think that sometimes I am a little stubborn and can’t follow a plan without “making it better”, (like I know better than the dieticians.) When I discussed my carb/protein/fat ratios with the staff on my diet plan, they said my protein was way too low. Maybe that is why each day I have been more tired than the next. I had eliminated so much animal protein and not replaced it with plant protein (little voice telling me to stop pretending I am a vegan).

Anyhow…I decided to do this:
-Put the animal protein back in. The amounts are pretty small.
-Work on slowly finding meals with/beans or other plant protein to replace a meal here and there.
-Go to a 6 meal a day plan. This was something I stumbled on that I never acknowledged about myself. I am not a 3 meal a day person though I kept thinking I was. I am eating unhealthy snacks at night because we eat dinner so early and I am always starting lunch at 11:00am as I am hungry. At meals I eat small portions, then I am grazing till the next meal. Since 6 meals (really 3 small main meals and 3 large snacks) is a lot to prepare I am going to stick with a two day rotation for a week or so to simplify things.

Started yesterday and immediately had more energy. I was down 1.5 lbs this morning. My attitude is this seems like the way to go but time will tell. I am going to stay open to making changes if things aren’t working.

BillBlueEyes; Go ahead and whine about the blueberries – I am. Those and the blackberries we had until a few days ago – gone. I like apples and acorn squash too but they are not easy to sprinkle on cereal.
LOL at being down on skis – the non-graceful choices on getting back up are what keep me from falling! I agree about the pushups. My DVD has “hop and pops” - 5 jumping jacks into 5 pushups…needless to say there is some ‘rocking and rolling’ and not much ‘popping’ getting myself back off the floor. Let us know if you master that !!

The leaves around the ponds and swamps are changing up here, but in my yard nothing yet. We had our first light frost, which killed off the pumpkin vines (with nothing but a green golfball to show for it). Guess I have to plant earlier!

Kuhljeanie; Whatever makes things easier for you is the way to go. Losing weight (in my opinion) is far more important than how you get there. (I’ve just come to that realization in the past few days). The prepared meals can end up being a healthier choice that winging it when you’ve not had time to prepare meals. I think the fact that you are open to change is good. As you said, you don’t have to give up all your cooking…and you can work it back in when time allows.

ChinaMaine; What a wonderful Sunday you had…sounds like the power nap was a good choice too. It’s interesting that sometimes that little bit can be so rejuvenating.
Hope that you can find time to take little breaks here and there – can’t imagine having a day of work that long.

WndrAnne; Hope you are back to your old self soon and kick out that virus.

OnebyOne; How nice to see your mother settling so well. What a great group of movers you had also!

Nuxmaga; Yay for knitting over snacking. And with knitting you are making something useful!!

Gardenerjoy; Hope all is well.

RobinW; you are listening and responding to what your body needs to recover, that is the important thing.

Eusebius; Hope the rest of the week is good to you. Enjoy the slow day of chilling – we all need and deserve that once in a while.

Carla70: Sounds like you are off to a great start. I am very slowly moving through the book until each concept sinks in – still on Day 11, but started a few weeks ago. Take your time and really let each concept settle in even if you need more than a day to do it. As far as the diet – it is really about what works for you and your lifestyle. It should be easy enough that you will stick with it, but most diets are a bit of work especially in the beginning. If you count calories, eventually you will get to a point where you will just know by your portion sizes if you are in the right range, but that takes a bit of experience. (I am not near that point at all). If you can find a diet that is close to how you will eat once you have lost the weight that is even better.

WalkingPrincess; Great that you are taking time to refocus.

Have a great day everyone. I am off to get some chores done.


09-23-2009, 10:53 AM
Good Morning - yesterday wasn't that great of a right food choices for me. But today is a new day. I was gone from work and home and let my guard down when ordering at resturaunt.

Kim - thank you for those encouraging words, keeps me on track.

I have set up a plan for myself and if it doesn't seem to work I will modify it.

I like the Beck solutions and today will revisit day 1&2 and move on to 3 possibly.

Happy Wednesday to everyone, better get back to work, after being gone a day lots to catch up on.


09-23-2009, 02:22 PM
Good Morning :wave:

Not quite so tired today....but I have a busy afternoon and evening. Might not be able to stay up and watch my ghost hunters or the new eastwick I wanted to see. This is when dvr would come in handy(which I dont have) ...Oh well.

We had the mattress on the bed for about 2 weeks, it was at 1.5 weeks I started feeling cruddy.....*knock on wood* it just might be letting up!

Last night I wondered if my stress level is hindering my recovery? I wouldnt doubt it at all. Im still trying to get that under control. Last weekend dh wanted to talk about a few "work" things, I told him no...lets wait until monday. It wasnt that important. But I just didnt want to think about this place when I was trying to get well.

Im op so far and plan to stay that way today. Just finished my lunch and for the first time in a long time, I ate it very slowly! Yah me!

Exercise will not happen today, but I slipped again in my gym attendance. I'd like to be posting again soon that Ive been there!

Have a great day everyone!

09-23-2009, 03:47 PM
criminy, another flyby. still struggling with food desire today, but i don't have to dig too deep to understand it. too much work, not enough downtime, not enough exercise. just got an email about a mandatory con call at 7:30 this evening - just about the time i'm normally giving el nino his bath and getting him ready for bed. sigh. this is just stupid. will take some time - maybe saturday night? to think through my plan for next week. it's just not going to happen between now and then, with class tomorrow night.

up two pounds from the beginning of the week. i'm still averaging a slight daily deficit, so i'm not going to freak out. it's the highest bloat i've recorded in many many months though, and need to do something to bring it back down before i'm back in the 170s. that would suck.

hugs to all - sounds like more than a few of us need one this week! feel better, everybody!

09-23-2009, 08:47 PM
Evening coaches

There's an old saying about the universe sending you taps on the shoulder to get your attention and if you don't pay attention you'll get a thwack upside the head with a 2x4.

I feel thwacked about my clutter. I came home from the school to find a letter from the management corporation informing us they are entering our town home for their annual inspection tomorrow between 8 and 5. I swear they just did that but here they go again. They haven't repaired a thing so I don't know why they bother but bother they do. Tomorrow is also when 4 pieces of furniture and about 10boxes and 3 garbage bags of stuff are arriving and I have to corral the two cats and and and...

I'm getting stuff and moving stuff around and throwing stuff out so I'd better get to it.

Becksters think good thoughts for me. I need all the extra help I can get.

09-24-2009, 12:52 AM
I had a good few days of slightly more quiet with out much internet -- less quiet than I might have hoped because life will intervene. Oh well. It was good enough for the moment.

DH and I did well today with a very strange day. Tag-teamed an early supper before our evening class on landscape design. I was ridiculously proud of us for not giving up and getting fast food instead.

Tomorrow's challenge is a potluck supper.

WI: -0.15kgs, Exercise: +30, 959/1200 minutes for September, Food: op, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

carla70: welcome! Sounds like your off to a good start. I think the single best secret is to post here every day! The other thing that is working best for me, but I know it doesn't for everyone, is to plan my meals for the next day every evening.

onebyone: glad things seem to be working out with your mother and that you're working through an end of the beginning of this transition. That should give you some breathing room. Sending you good thoughts during your war on clutter.

wndranne: hope you're feeling better soon!

BillBlueEyes: we got Delicata squash for the first time last year -- our CSA provides it. I sliced it into rainbows, marinated it in maple syrup and sesame oil, and threw it on the grill. We liked it so much, we've eaten it that way ever since. Being able to eat the skin is so cool!

ChinaMaine: I'm glad you can report that you took breaks the last two days and are making progress with The Feeling Good Handbook.

eusebius: Yay for Day 3!

Kim in NH: Good job on working out a new plan for yourself. And yay for the instant results! I hope they continue to go well.

RobinW: glad you had a good start to the day and I hope you found enough energy to make it through the rest.

kuhljeanie: I'm doing all the Michael Pollan stuff. It's not unusual for me to spend six hours in a day on the shopping, food prep, and cooking that requires. I don't know how I would do it if I worked. So if it helps to have the blessing from some one who is actually going that route, you have mine! I even have a book recommendation. The Thin Commandments Diet by Stephen Gullo has an appendix with all his favorite diet products in it. His clients apparently do great following that approach.

09-24-2009, 07:25 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - I face an event today where there will be a spread of food - right square in the middle of the afternoon. It's a convenient time to schedule the event, and since it's a farewell party, food is required to show we value the guy. My job is to remember that I don't have to eat it.

Food OP, including wild Alaskan salmon for dinner; CREDIT moi. At the gym, CREDIT moi, I'm getting slightly less clumsy getting up from push ups. But wouldn't be confused with a "pop" as mentioned by Kim (Kim in NH), LOL.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - A friend of mine deals with odd-hour mandatory conference calls from his cell phone where ever he is at the moment - including his kids soccer games. Mute is a wonderful invention.

onebyone - Ouch for feeling thwacked about clutter. Yep, when it pours it pours. Sending supportive thoughts - from a guy whose stacks are building up as I type.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for eating lunch slowly. When you figure out how to reduce stress, let all of us know here on the Beck-Stress thread, LOL.

ChinaMaine - Yay for taking a break for a walk. LOL at "drop off to a dull roar." Yep, the nutritional yeast has a pleasing nutty flavor, not exactly like cheese, but a tasty condiment to add to a pasta.

Erika (eusebius) - Yay, Yay, Yay for day 3. Yep, you're on your way to being in your groove.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Kudos for grabbing supper rather than fast food. Drooling here over your grilled Delicata Squash. My favorite trick for a potluck is to slowly survey the spread and choose the one food that I couldn't pass up without feeling slighted. That helps to make all the other dishes seem more mundane - repeats of stuff I get on a regular basis. Good luck at your potluck tonight.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Kudos for tweaking your eating plan to make it fit. I, also, found that the three planned snacks helped me to not feel like I just had to eat when meal time arrived. Probably more important, they served when I was tempted by some food because I remembered that I was only a few hours away from a snack or a meal in one direction or the other.

LOL at the thought of sprinkling Acorn Squash on my cereal; Nope, it just doesn't replace blueberries. Sure, I'll let you know when I just "pop" up from the floor; watch your email.

Carla (carla70) - Yep, a restaurant can get me when I'm tired. But you've got it, like Scarlett said, "After all... tomorrow is another day."

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight

If, on the other hand, you read your Advantages Response Card several times a day, every day, these reasons will be firm in your mind when you're tempted to eat something that you shouldn't.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55.

09-24-2009, 09:21 AM
Phew – the worst is over at work I believe. I finished up a couple of critical path items yesterday. The anvil that had been hanging over my head for the last 2 weeks suddenly disappeared. DH and I immediately headed out for a kayak ride at 3:20 in the afternoon. It was wonderful and relaxing. This project has a reputation for being disorganized and stressful, but I am hopeful I can find a way to manage it. To help ensure that I will continue reading the Feeling Good Handbook anyway.

:df: WI-up .8 lbs (since Sunday) Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (70m).

gardenerjoy Credit for having a supportive DH who helps you tag-team dinner. Landscape design class – how cool! Nice to see the kgs are continuing to drop off.

one by one Wow – coming into your home for an inspection is pretty intrusive. Hope all goes well…

Kuhljeanie Ouch for ‘ too much work, not enough downtime, not enough exercise’. Sounds like you are managing as best you can under the circumstances…

Robin Kudos for not letting work-talk intrude on personal time. Hopefully your allergic reaction to the mattress topper will be gone completely soon. Credit for being op.

Carla Ordering out at restaurants is tough. Credit for bouncing back so quickly. And it’s terrific you’ve got a plan in place and are working through days 1-3.

Kim (in NH) Great insights on protein and needing 6 ‘meals’ a day. I too find I do best with 3 meails and 1-2 snacks a day, and I have some protein every time I eat. I bet it’ll have a big impact on how you feel.

Erika Let’s hope that the craziness subsides, and that your habit becomes a groove soon.

Bill Yum I love salmon – haven’t had it in a while… Need to change that. Good luck at today’s farewell party.

09-24-2009, 10:44 AM
Good Morning - Last night didn't work out as I wanted as ended up doing some work and then kids issues. So I didn't get look at my workbook or review my cards like I wanted to. I have been still wondering about the plan I want to do, but for right now with my life so hectic I just can't add looking up food counts daily as I know I should do. I am leaning toward doing Beck solutions with the No S diet. The No S diet seems slimplistic but may be effective. Like I said I am still undecided but leaning that way. Until then I am eating healthy and smaller portions. THat is why I am thinking of this plan is portion control is on of my weaknesses.

I think posting here is definately something that helps and hope life slows down a bit so I have more time to read posts and respond better. I don't always have time to respond but always read them.


09-24-2009, 11:45 AM
Good Morning

Well....I met with the "girls" last night. The same group I had been meeting with a year ago. It was a group of women that got together every 2 weeks to brainstorm how to build our business. All but one was able to make it. So there are 5 women sitting there.....2 have folded up their businesses. One because she was too busy and couldnt take the pressure of running it alone (and alot of other stuff). One closed because she wasnt making any money. 4 of the 5 of us looked worn out, dragged out, and extremely tired. The "1" that sat there like a shiney beacon was the one who has expanded twofold.

I got home and I thought about all of us sitting around the table and just how tired we all were....except her. Why? (she also works a day job)


She has a housekeeper
...doesnt cook and relies "often" on the local grocery takeout
...runs her business from a phone
...does not actually work "in" her business "on" her business
...has 3 employees

She is just as busy as the rest of us, but stress obviously isnt eating away at her. Like it very obviously is with the rest of us.

After our little meeting I sat outside with one of the girls (my old PT). She knew that the stress was eating away at me, and I am heading down the steep cliff. We sat outside starbucks until almost 11 last night.

Ive been doing alot of crying and soul searching. We have decided to cut me back to only 3 days a week! Hire an intern to help with the marketing. Stop working on projects that take time away from what actually makes us money.

Things arent so good with me. I'm working on it. It isnt going to happen over night. But I finally feel like Im clearing the way. There is too much clutter in my path.

Food is ok....yesterday's supper wasnt planned. I just wanted eggs and toast (comfort food) but that was it...I was still good.

Exercise is going to start back up this saturday. Since I'll be away from the shop for 4 days, I have no excuse! Even if I just go and get on the treadmill...its more than what I am doing now. Mind you I did walk to work this morning.

I also plan to utilize the local market's food bar for dinners. After the bathroom is remodeled, I will start looking for a cleaning lady. Hopefully by christmas I'll look all bright and shiney like business girl #5

Have a great day everyone....Im off to start clearing the clutter from my path.

Thank you for being here and letting me vent.

09-24-2009, 12:36 PM
vent away, robin! i need those ideas too. i'm in a similar place. another order for cookies yesterday (yay!) but either i bake tonight after my evening class (a fun thing - interior design) or i have to put in an extra drive to cincinnati (about 3 hrs roundtrip) on saturday, the one day i get a reprieve from the commute. so i'll be baking tonight. i've already given up the fantasy of organic, home-cooked meals, and i've made peace with that. we don't have the extra cash to pay someone else to clean or do laundry - WHEN the other house sells (i can't entertain an IF) that's super-high on the list. part of my stress is how fugly my house is and how quickly DH's crap piles up in the corners and on all flat surfaces. sometimes it gets to me so badly i start fantasizing about solving the decor and clutter problems with a flamethrower.

still up a couple of pounds. last night after el nino crashed out, i did my upper body wii and got on the treadmill. watched TV and ran - i didn't want to get off. did a whole 5k while catching up on Top Chef masters on the tivo. it felt so good...and then i couldn't get to sleep. finally did but woke up at 4:00 am. head is killing me today - my standard sleep-deprivation headache. so do i exercise, or sleep? tonight, neither. i'll get home from class at 9:00, then start baking. assuming i can fit in a trip to the store to get almond milk. i'm exhausted.

life is unfair. waaaaaah.

i think EVERYONE does better with daily planning - that's been a constant here. we start to slip (or fall completely off the wagon,) but get right back on and stay there when we do daily meal planning. it ain't fun, but boy, does it work. and i know a lot of my struggle is that i'm not doing it now. somehow i have to figure out a way to work it into my life, because it's like exercise - you get back more time and energy than you initially put into it.

09-24-2009, 08:58 PM
Hey everyone, my name is Liz and I'm new here. I started the Beck program two days ago and I'm doing my best to incorporate the skills. I'm mostly excited, but I'm also nervous about some of the experiments because it feels like so much of my life revolves around food, eating and weight. I know this is what I need to get my body (and mind) in shape. I look forward to being a member of this community, thanks for having me!

09-24-2009, 09:45 PM
Hi Liz and :welcome3: to the group :)

09-24-2009, 11:19 PM
Hi All,
Another groggy evening. Finally had my surgery consult, and now have to figure out when on earth I'll schedule it in the middle of all my holiday craftshows. Minor surgery, but still disruptive.

Tracked food, credit. 8200+ steps, credit. Talked myself down to a smaller bag of chips at the drugstore, credit. Found the nutrition information for the pudding cups I was getting at the cafeteria--oh, man! I knew it was a lot of pudding, but I was in some kind of denial about how much. I guess that's a credit--facing reality.

Well, off to bed.

09-24-2009, 11:39 PM
The potluck turned out to be easy -- everyone brought salads!

WI: -0.5kgs (new low), Exercise: +20, 979/1200 minutes for September, Food: op, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

BillBlueEyes: hope the event with the afternoon spread goes well. Thanks for the potluck advice -- finding the one food that really looks good and letting the rest slip into mundaneness. That should work for me, along with bringing something that I want to eat and really fits into my plan.

ChinaMaine: yay for losing the anvil and celebrating with an afternoon kayak outing!

RobinW: sounds like you are having some real insights on how you want to live your life and a plan to get yourself there!

kuhljeanie: thinking of you baking cookies. Hope it's going well and that you get a good night's sleep.

upallnight116: welcome! This is a really supportive group -- glad you found us!

Nuxmaga: good job on facing the reality of the pudding cups!

09-25-2009, 06:32 AM
:welcome: Liz (upallnight116) :welcome:

And, in honor of your first post, :wel3fc:

How did you hear about the Beck books?

And how did you find this thread on 3FatChicks?

09-25-2009, 06:48 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Marched into my afternoon event with a plan; grabbed a bottle of water which I nursed while a hyper cake pusher three times tried to hand me a piece of gooey icing cake; CREDIT moi. Usually you just have to get past the food table once at these events, but a devoted assistant was determined that we'd all show our love by munching on his cake. It's amazing that with a plan it was so easy.

And a minor victory before that. Had lunch with a bunch of friends and I ignored the FREE sesame bread things and butter for the half hour before food arrived - including a refill of the basket within my reach; CREDIT moi. This is the restaurant where I have their Portobello Mushroom stack over white beans and Arugula with Balsamic vinegar - which is yummy. Oddly, the waitress said, "Oh, the vegetable plate, good for you," as if she were the healthy eating cheerleader.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Yay for that cookie order even with the Ouch for having to squeeze the baking into a post 9pm slot. It is kinda neat that you didn't even mention that the baking would be an eating temptation for you. LOL at the flamethrower solution to your DH's clutter; I'll pass that on to my DW who has to deal with my ever growing stacks. Sending supporting thoughts for the Universe to give you a moment of free time.

onebyone - Waving. Sending good vibes for attacking your clutter for your home invasion.

Robin (RobinW) - Major Kudos for so actively and candidly looking at your situation to find your path. Your group of business colleagues is an amazing tale, and your insights on how to become a successful but less stressed business woman are keen. I wish you well on your journey to "look all bright and shiney" by Christmas.

ChinaMaine - Yay for getting rid of the anvil over your head by defeating it. You certainly put in two weeks of intense effort to achieve that; Kudos. Hope you can find a way to get credit.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for actively chasing down the calorie information on those pudding cups. The food purveyors even seem to be able to pack calories in the interstices of those foods that could be nutritious. Sending supportive thoughts that you can get your surgery scheduled with little impact on your craftshows.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Yay for a potluck with all good choices - that is so neat. Kudos for bringing a good choice yourself.

Carla (carla70) - Arggggggh! Yep, real life intervenes and your plan has to fit your real life. I rather like the simplicity of the No S diet:There are just three rules and one exception:

* No Snacks
* No Sweets
* No Seconds

Except (sometimes) on days that start with "S"

Liz (upallnight116) - Kudos for starting the Beck program. Yep, I know that feeling that so much time is wrapped around food. My experience was that by working the Beck strategies I found that focus on food to dwindle. It's pretty amazing to experience that. You're on your way.

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight
. . .
You'll be able to remember why you want to lose weight at the very moment your sabotaging thoughts are trying to convince you that it's OK to eat something you know you shouldn't.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55.

09-25-2009, 10:40 AM
Good Morning Coaches

I woke up with a splitting headache at around 4:30am and took a pill, went back to bed and then the phone woke me up and now I am battling a headache again.

Oh Well.

The movers came yesterday and they removed my old comfy couch and brought it to the curb. I just saw the garbage truck leave and along witt it my old couch and four bags of garbage. 4. seems I really have started to get rid of stuff. They kept the green velvet loveseat and the two colonial chairs that I was always too wide to sit in. I hated those chairs. I am glad to have kept the few things I did. The boxes from my mom's house are now stacked in the entry way and I have no intention of dealing with them until next week.

Today's job is to make things for the market. Maybe I'll get out there tomorrow. It looks like rain for the sunday market. My tshirt making boothmate will be unhappy with that forecast.

Kitty X is still growling at the new cat, Caesar. I wish she'd stop, she even made motions to swipe at him this morning:(, but it's not my call. When she really focuses on him she growls. There is progress though. He's staring out the door right now and she's watching him with no growls. They both eat in the same area of the kitchen and they both sleep on our bed with us. We need a much bigger bed.

I got a copy of Volumetrics in the mail yesterday. It came from England. I bought it on ebay and it was here in about a week. I've just cracked the book open and it seems good. Now I have four books on the go: Fit for Life, Brain Rules, The End of Overeating, and Volumetrics. All great books. All necessary for me to read. I'm further along in some than others, it pretty much depends on what I had read up to the beginning of this month before all my time went towards dealing with my mother and her situation.

Anyway I think I have to go. My head is now splitting. I think I may have a bath and try to just relax...

I'll check in again later.

09-25-2009, 03:02 PM
checking in before the weekend...burning the candle at both ends, and feeling it. i did get my cookies done last night and delivered today, and that felt good. and nope, didn't have any desire to make an extra batch. i had enough leftover dough for exactly one small cookie, which i did eat - but i shared with DH. i did want to try it and make sure they were up to standards, so that's all i needed.

unfortunately, i'm still giving in way too much to the daily onslaught of desire. was over my calorie allotment yesterday by 300. i'm trying to keep my perspective - averaged over the week, i'm still on the right side of the deficit line, but i've somehow managed to gain 2.5 pounds. i'm just about tearing my hair out but am trying to keep my perspective. it is what it is.

some painkillers for headaches all around...sigh...TGIF!!!

09-25-2009, 03:26 PM
Hello everyone -

Well again last night didn't get to Beck workbook but I have a "free" weekend no big plans so looking forward to being home and catching up on lots of stuff. I am definately going to do the No S diet along with Beck solutions. I feel that is the right fit for me at this point.

Today my eating is ok, I did have to much for lunch but it was lettuce salad and was very filling and am still very full.

Welcome to new member Liz. This is a wonderful place!!

I don't know if I ever remember responding to the first questions..

How I discovered Beck was by accident surfing the web or would that be Beck finding me?

I found this site doing a google search for Beck forums.

09-25-2009, 07:29 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome everyone! I found this forum by googling "Beck Diet Buddies" and it was the first link to pop up. It seems like a wonderful place to get and give support and share advice, tips, etc.

I do have a question for anyone and everyone who might have an answer or personal experience:

How long did it take you to get through phase 1 and get on to the actual dieting part? I feel like its going to take me forever to get 7 consecutive days of checking everything off on the daily checklist. Not because I am not putting in all of my effort, I just feel like I have so far to go. I feel like I'm starting from scratch with a lot of these concepts. Did anyone else feel this way at first?

09-25-2009, 09:52 PM

went to an awesome social media meeting this morning. Ended up coming back to the shop with an idea that cost us $130 :eek: But just one online order will pay for that. Keep telling myself that :lol: This was one of the very few meetings Ive been to where if this fella was to ever speak again....Id pay to go listen! That's how impressed I was!

Am I feeling better? Kinda/Sorta By 5:30 my chest was in pain, and I had prickers all over the place. :rolleyes: Off to the gym tomorrow to NOT think about work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Should I have gone to the meeting this morning? Probably not....but it gave birth to some awesome ideas!!! Even for a neighbour guy who is an awesome cook! Will it help me turn my brain off? No....actually got it revvvved right back up.

I love what I do, and I love the creativity involved in it. I just need help dialing it down at the end of the day.

OH!!! We got word today that they will start gutting and redoing the bathroom on tuesday. Oh.......should be a fun couple weeks :dizzy:

Ya'll can come visit me at the funny farm....I'll let you know the room number! :lol3:

Oh ok, exercise~ gone, wine~ lovely :D

09-25-2009, 11:45 PM
Hi All,
Tracked food, credit. Zumba, credit. No chips at the party tonight--yay! Stress eating from vending machines was a major sabotage today though.

uppallnight--welcome! I had that feeling too, that I'd never get to the "good stuff"--but actually, the skills at the beginning of the book are what have enabled me to actually change my eating habits, so hang in there.

Carla--The No S diet has a nice simplicity to it--and seems very likely to reduce the number of calories you take in. Credit for giving it a try.

kuhljeanie--Yay for only eating half a test cookie and getting the batch delivered. Hope you can make some room for a little rest.

onebyone--credit for getting Volumetrics. I really liked that book--it works with our desire to feel full, and yet eat less calories. I was calculating at lunch the other day that I'd need to eat 15 pickle spears to be the equivalent of a 1.5 oz bag of chips. That would be a lot of pickle volume!

Bill--Kudos for having a plan and avoiding the recurring offers of cake! Thanks for the supportive thoughts. Still need to schedule the surgery, still stuck in decision limbo and accompanying bad snacks.

gardenerjoy--Credit for picking up Bill's strategy of picking the one most delicious looking item at potlucks and leaving the ordinary food.

09-25-2009, 11:54 PM
Tomorrow's adventure is visiting one of our CSA farms. They're serving lunch but I think I can count on there being lots of very fresh vegetables available! So my plan is to fill the plate with veggies.

WI: +0.6kgs , Exercise: +50, 1029/1200 minutes for September, Food: op (mostly), Read my Advantages and Responses: no

BillBlueEyes: great job on resisting the cake pusher! And on resisting the never-empty bread basket.

onebyone: hope your head improves. You've been through quite a stressful time -- take care of yourself. A bath is one of my favorite forms of self care.

kuhljeanie: sending you caring energies, too, as we go into the weekend.

carla70: sounds like you're making good progress!

upallnight116: I guess I kind of cheated in the speed of going through the preliminary material. I read The End of Overeating by David Kessler first and had already stopped my worst eating behaviors. While I was reading the first part of Beck, I was thinking about whether I wanted a more structured eating plan and what that might look like. Then I kind of wrapped my decisions into the step about planning my food every night. That's when I started my "diet" I guess. It was a fairly smooth transition from eating better to eating even better and I'm continuing to tweak things.

Nuxmaga: credit for chip avoidance. Hope your stresses slow over the weekend.

09-26-2009, 06:45 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - A new victory. The Biryani arrived at the table as a HUGE platter just for me. I served myself a small portion with a shrimp and savored all the embedded veggies and basmati rice. Then served myself another small portion with a chunk of goat, all the while enjoying the conversation with DW. Then, with perhaps a quarter of it consumed, I realized that I was sufficiently full. So, shudder, I stopped; CREDIT moi. So that, along with half the single loaf of Nan we split, is waiting in the fridge for lunches. I've brought home leftovers before, but this is the first time I've served myself a truly modest volume and been happy.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Yay that today you reap the reward of the midnight baking and then delivery of your batch of cookies. Kudos for pulling that together with only a ha-cookie sample. Hope you can give your poor over burnt candle a break today.

onebyone - Four Big Kudos for four bags of stuff sent on its way; Kudos for attacking your clutter as well as letting some furniture go so that you can incorporate your mother's stuff into your life. Good luck with your market today (hoping that headache is history). I presume that fall makes people want to buy.

Look forward to hearing what you think of Volumetrics.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for preparing yourself to receive the new "awesome ideas." And Yay for having your bathroom gutted, I mean, I guess - will you be able to shower and other things? Sending supportive thoughts that a weekend off with a visit to the gym helps to curb all that physical stuff you're still experiencing.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for "No chips at the party tonight" - that's good stuff. Ouch for the vending machines. Do you have a written plan for the day? I found that a solid plan that I believed in was my best defense against the vending machine, and my style was to go ahead and buy two chocolate bars to save myself the effort of walking back, LOL.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Yay for lunch at one of your CSA farms; I'm jealous. Give us a full report so we can drool.

Kudos for keeping to your September exercise plan; looks like you'll reach your planned goal. Oh Well for a day without reading your Advantages Response Cards even though Kudos for being aware.

Carla (carla70) - Yay for a "free" weekend; hope you find some productive stuff to enjoy the fall. Kudos for eating "ok" - my own style of counting calories doesn't count lettuce so there's no such thing as too much. Thanks for telling us how you found Beck and this thread.

Liz (upallnight116) - I can imagine the frustration trying to get through Stage 1 to get to the actual dieting. Hang in there; you'll make it. I followed the first book where we had to go through 14 program days before the first day of dieting - which is different but similar. I didn't discover Beck until six months after I had lost my weight so I was already in maintenance when I did Day One. But then, since my maintenance and diet plans were the same, that didn't really matter. LOL, so I guess I can't offer much experience on that one.

You're doing the right thing by working the skills; Beck repeatedly states that the skills at the start of her program are key to success.

Readers - day 1
Record the Advantages of Losing Weight
. . .
You'll be able to say to yourself, As much as I want to eat [this food] and enjoy a moment or two of pleasure, losing weight is much more important to me.

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55.

09-26-2009, 09:10 AM
Good Morning Coaches

It's 7:59am and I should be heading out the door for the bus with my market stuff but I'm not. I have a bit of a stomach bug still. I hope it completely clears up soon. I felt lousy yesterday. That headache hung around until mid afternoon and I was so puffy and felt so nauseous.

I hit a new high this morning on the scale too: 278.8. It figures as we have a wedding to go to on Friday (city hall wedding) which continues to Saturday (backyard reception). I thought I would drop like 10 lbs and it seems as soon as I think these things I gain weight.

I know I am making connections between things where there are no connections.

It's like I've just been holding fast through the mom stuff and now I peek up ready to climb back into my life and I get a higher number on the scale. I gotta get re-focused and I gotta do something about it.

09-26-2009, 09:32 AM
Thursday was quite frustrating for me. I needed to move a lot of files from one server in California to another one. But the process for doing so was developed for those who work inside the CA office. The network in the office is very fast, the same can not be said for the ever growing number of people who work remotely. It involves moving all the files to my laptop and then back to the second server in CA. The first server is a very slow machine, so is a problem for all remote employees. The version control software that is the gateway to the second server is flaky, difficult to use, and slow. So when it was taking me much longer than I had planned to move the files around on Thursday, I assumed it was issues with the machines in California or the version control software. I did reboot my laptop several times, supersitiously. And we rebooted our home network in the early afternoon. By 4 PM a file transfer failed *again* and I burst into tears and called to cancel my piano lesson. DH rebooted our home network again and suddenly all the files started moving. By 5:30 all the files were in the right place in CA. But I was already in quite a foul mood and self-medicated with alcohol. My calories were okay because I ate only half my lunch and had no mid-afternoon snack. But clearly I didn't have the best source of calories… BTW - DH got a new router from the phone company yesterday.

In addition I’ve been sleeping very poorly for almost a month now. I’ve been getting 4-6 hours a night and it’s been catching up with me this week. It turns out my latest allergy medicine (started taking 3 weeks ago) has a side-effect of insomnia. The doc prescribed a different allergy med yesterday. I want one that gets rid of snoring at night, allows me to sleep through the night, but doesn’t cloud my thinking the next day. :crossed:

:df: WI-down .6 lbs (since Wednesday) Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (48m both Thurs and Fri). But I didn’t take a break for lunch or for a walk/kayak either day.

Today we have a nice day planned. I’ll do my exercise and then we go to the Common Ground Fair put on by the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners. So it’s a fun crunchy-granola kind of a day. We’ll have lunch there – much healthier than typical fair food! We’ll just walk around and soak it all in. They have all kinds of cool demos - my favorite is the border collie demo. There are others like blacksmithing, baking over a campfire, and making acorn flour. There’s a set of tents set aside for a progressive polical activists. And another that is primarily for companies selling sustainable energy products and services.

:wave: to all. I’ll get to personals again tomorrow – I need to run if I want to exercise before we leave.

Kim in NH
09-26-2009, 11:26 AM
Hi all.
Have been doing well the past few days, on plan with exercise, and on plan foodwise. I have decided to cut back on my last holdout – alcohol. This is a waste of calories and I have concluded it has hindered weight loss in the past. What started as a few beers on the weekend turned into an everynight thing when I began working until 10:00pm. It would take me 2 hours to get to sleep…so a couple of beers or glass or wine would do it. Since I am not working as much (not by choice, by economy) I don’t need that. I decided to limit it to 2 nights, usually a weekend when DH and I sit down for some TV/movie time and only if there are enough calories avail. The past week and a half I have done that successfully (somehow thought it was going to be harder?) Between that and the 6 meal/day diet I have seen results. So many changes, so many old habits I cling to and don’t want to give up.

We had a freeze last night, most of the garden is done. It's always a bittersweet time as I love the cooler weather but I still want the garden! I picked as much as I could yesterday afternoon.

BillBlueEyes; Yay for the victory of leaving food on your plate. Love biryani. I also like the bonus of getting several meals out of one restaurant dinner – always appeals to the thrifty side of me. Trying to picture a chuck of goat….

Kuhljeanie; Really great to split one cookie with your DH! I wish I could do that. I skipped a request to bake something for the PTO this week because I know I can’t handle baked goods in the house – not yet.

ChinaMaine; Yikes for uncooperative technology, but glad it got done even though it ruined your day. Your fair sounds wonderful… the typical ones here in NH there is only one place I can eat, the buffalo wagon. Everything else is sausage, fried dough, sausage, fried twinkies, sausage…

OnebyOne; Sorry to hear about the stomach bug... and the new high, but great that you are trying to refocus.

Nuxmaga; Yay for passing on chips.

Gardenerjoy; Hope your lunch put is great!

RobinW; Good for you attending a meeting that sparks enthusiasm!

Upallnight116; I don’t think I said welcome to you yet – welcome! I am using the first book which has the diet start after 14 days. I started Beck 22 days ago and I am on day 12 in the book. I’m not worrying about the time, only that I move ahead when I am ready. Yes, I started from scratch too. If it is frustrating to wait, can you take the time to make a food plan or grocery list, or something that will give you a leg up when you do start? Sounds like are doing the right thing, hang in there and you’ll be ready for the diet phase.

Carla70; Enjoy that free weekend!

Have a great weekend everyone,

09-26-2009, 07:59 PM
Hi there Coaches -
A quick fly-by during my week of craziness. Things have been going pretty well. I ate a bit too much Thursday night but tracked it all and have been OP since then. Scale is down about 3 lbs right now and the Friday night concert was a success. I got up early to walk this morning and was rewarded by the sight of the biggest rainbow I've ever seen. So nice things all around right now.
:hug: to you all and I hope to get back to personals soon. I have to find a way to fit the time into my routine. Hope everyone is having a great weekend.
Oh and welcome to Liz (Upallnight116) - looking forward to getting to know you better!

09-26-2009, 11:22 PM
Coaches/Buddies I am still sick, and it has been A DAY. I'm choosing to go over my plan and have a (singular) nice beer and relax before bed. This is a good choice today.

Anyway, I wanted to check in because I identified a sabotaging thought. I've been having trouble lately keeping my years-long habit of logging my food, and today the thought was strong. "There's too much junk on the counter to go digging for my food log and write it down." Um, hello. I just love the creativity the mind employs, regardless of how stupid it sounds when you actually listen to yourself.

So I cleaned the counter and made a plan for an alternate location for the notebook when it junks up again.

Tomorrow is my DD's 4th birthday party, and I'll probably be beside myself with stress as the children get excited and overstimulated. I'll pop back in on Monday.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Happy Fall!


09-27-2009, 12:30 AM
The farm tour lunch was more challenging than expected -- country picnic food so lots of starchy vegetables instead of green ones. I coped with small portions. The skinny woman in front of me took 1/2 a bratwurst so I took the other half. I really wanted a few bites of the spice cake made with heirloom squash, so I got DH to split a small piece -- about three bites each which was perfect!

The farm tour was a fun adventure!

WI: -0.25kgs , Exercise: 60+, 1089/1200 minutes for September, Food: op (such as it was), Read my Advantages and Responses: no

BillBlueEyes: congrats on reaching the point of satisfaction with a modest portion! And, enjoy those leftovers!

onebyone: ouch on the new weight and the sick head and stomach. I keep reminding myself of what they tell smokers -- all those previous times were just practice. Really, all that stuff with your mom would have been hard for anyone. Especially since it wasn't just one event but days and days of stress and difficult foods to control. With that behind you, I believe you can "get re-focused" and "do something about it."

ChinaMaine: sorry for the rough Thursday -- that's a truly horrible day. I hope your new allergy medicine does the trick. I can't remember if we've talked about neti pots on this thread. I use one at night and it's a big help with the snoring. The Common Ground Fair sounds really great!

Kim in NH: good job on working out the alcohol. Glad you got some last-minute harvesting done before the freeze. I'm hoping we'll get another month out of our garden.

eusebius: glad things are going well in spite of the busy-ness!

wndranne: great job on finding your notebook with both a mess and a sabotaging thought to deal with! Good luck with the 4 year olds!

09-27-2009, 07:17 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Survived a memorial service at mid afternoon with mounds of food, CREDIT moi, by mostly eating fruit. Do need help with a key question: Is a strawberry dipped in chocolate a fruit? Just one side is dipped in chocolate, the other is bare.

Took off for my walk underdresed for the cool weather deliberately to force myself to be brisk to keep warm. Walk was interrupted when I ran into a group of folks I haven't seen in about four years; Oh Well. Feel drawn to ask if a walk is aerobic if spent standing still for an hour shivering, but I won't. I had to walk briskly home to warm up.

onebyone - emailing some virtual chicken soup. Hope you get back to feeling yourself so the market today is possible.

Anne (wndranne) - Simply amazing that Sabotaging Thoughts have such low opinion of our intelligence that they think any cheese-puff notion will throw us off track. Doubly amazing how often I fall for it. Kudos for spotting that. Happy Birthday to your DD. What I remember of birthday parties for my four year olds was the HUGE grins on the faces of the parents as they waved goodby.

ChinaMaine - Ouch for a phone company modem taking out a piano lesson; Kudos to your DH for replacing it so you can continue to move files between two California servers via China, Maine. Your "fun crunchy-granola kind of a day" sounds like life in the last century; enjoy. Seems like a good year to learn to make Acorn flour - there's a bumper crop.

Erika (eusebius) - Yay for a successful concert to top off a week of craziness. Everyone should get a rainbow when the scale drops 3 pounds, LOL.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Neat strategy to get a few bites of heirloom squash spice cake - sounds yummy. Ouch that a CSA fair served less green than you had envisioned, but Kudos for using portion control to find your path through it.

Kim (Kim in NH) - Kudos for confronting alcohol - Beck doesn't hit that until day 31: Decide about Drinking. I like your sentence, "So many changes, so many old habits I cling to and don’t want to give up." Much of the stuff I wanted to cling to wasn't really so important - just habits that I had accumulated. But I seemed loath to swap them for new habits. I think some Sabotaging Thoughts were pushing against my attempts at change. Thanks for spotting my "chuck of goat," LOL.

Readers - day 1
Benefits of Weight Loss

So why do you want to lose weight? Take a moment to think about this question. How will weight loss impact the following?
• Your love life, friendships, family, career, and social life
• Your energy and participation in hobbies and recreational activities
• Your body, health, self-image, and mental outlook
. . .
The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55.

09-27-2009, 07:25 AM
Good Morning Coaches

I'm up so early on a Sunday as I just had my pre-market consultation phonecall wiht my boothpartner Tim and we've cancelled for the day. It's really raining wiht no end in sight. And it's a cold rain. I always take note of the first and the last cold rain. When it's summer rain it's not cold at all and often pleasant. I know, basic knowledge here but it's a sign of FALL, Ugh. Anyway it's **** to set up a tent at a market in the rain. So, even though we both need the $, we're not going. I'm pretty sure it's raining all day too.

I did get 50 small items made yesterday for the first time in a year I think. (My avatar is like one of the things I am talking about--that's the kind of stuff I made yesterday.) I used to make this stuff daily, for about 15 years I pretty much worked with this material daily and then I went to school and worked with other stuff. I've been avoiding getting back to it. I had a sabotaging thought about it that went like this: when you do start to make things again they had better be good cause you went to art school now and so they'd better be that much better or why did you bother? Yikes perfectionism and chastisment all before I even start. Anyway I finally started and that critical voice is quiet now. I may need to make something everyday to keep it quiet.

Today I am going to head to my mother's and visit with her. I have her good glasses and her good jewellery here. I was supposed to drop them off earlier but everyday something comes up. Her phone isn't installed yet but I did hear she'll have the same # as she had before which is fantastic. Her elderly friends can call her by accident and they'll reach her. It's great.

Okay I think I'm going back up to bed. I'm really not happy about Fall being here and the weather getting colder. But it falls under the realm of "not in my hands" so I better maked a plan soon for myself about how to keep my spirits up as the daylight hours dwindle and the tempertaures fall to the single digits consistently.

:wave: see you later have a good Sunday.

09-27-2009, 09:41 AM
The Common Ground Fair was a lot of fun, but I have to admit we missed the kitschy quality of our local ‘traditional’ fair. The food was the highlight – as Kim in NH so aptly put it, most fairs have ‘ sausage, fried dough, sausage, fried twinkies, sausage’ There were a few places selling fried dough and french fries, but a wide variety of other healthy foods too. I headed straight for my current fair favorite, the Indian booth. I got a combination plate that I split with DH (after he finished his gyro). I ate until I was no longer hungry, but not quite full. There was a place selling handmade ice cream – we stopped there mid-afternoon. I got a mixture of apple and pumpkin ice cream. The apple ice cream had chunks of spiced organic apples in it. Yum! The pumpkin wasn’t fantastic, so I didn’t eat it. Why take the calories if I don’t love it? These thoughts are new to me since I started Beck, and it’s really nice that they are starting to become habits… Perhaps I am starting to think like a thin person. :cheer3:

I did a core and lower body workout, walked Moose, and kayaked for about 20 minutes. The fair gave me a few hours of spontaneous exercise. We did see some neat demos and bought bags of organic produce on the way back to our car. I’m making a quiche tonight with leeks… I’ve also had 2 good nights sleep in a row. :yay:

:df: WI-down .3 lbs. Made a plan, read my cards. Food – op, Exercise – op (68m).

Kim (in NH) Kudos for changing so many old habits. :yay: that you’re already seeing the benefits! Do your local fairs have buffalo meat? If so, I’m so jealous!

Erika Credit for being op since Thursday. Nice you were rewarded by the rainbow during your walk. :yay: for down 3 lbs.

Anne Ouch for having ‘A DAY’, but kudos for dealing with it reasonably. Lol at the slightly ludicrous sabotaging thought. But nice job dealing with it!

gardenerjoy Sounds like you made great choices in a challenging situation – credit! My Mom got me a neti pot for Christmas, and I thought it was the most disgusting thing I had ever seen. But you say they work well? Do they make a tremendous mess? ;) I may have to remember where I put it after everyone left…

Bill Looks like today will give you an opportunity to walk in the rain. I believe that dodging raindrops is aerobic.

one by one Kudos for fighting off sabotaging thoughts – you enjoy making these small items, and customers enjoy buying them. Enough said, right? I hope your visit with your Mom goes well.

09-27-2009, 10:53 AM
Dear Beckies, old friends and new ones,

I have been seriously AWOL, mostly due to weather. *sigh. Never, ever, have I experienced such a Sept. I have been swimming almost every day, more than I did the rest of the months of summer combined. *sigh. The best part about Sept. swimming is that how one looks in a swim suit is really a moot point. ahem.

I have been trying to follow along. Still marvel at your dedication and energy, thinking of you all and all the challenges you have faced. And often laughing out loud, mostly at BillBE. ;);)

Sat at the Boz Scaggs concert last week and he referenced being at the Guthrie in Mpls. 30 years ago. I was there for that concert, too. It was so cool to be sitting in his magnificent, gracious presence 30 + years later with both of us still above ground and thriving. Sat there with a friend of 30 plus years as well; that felt good, too.

Sorry for your frost, Kim. I am so not ready for one. The raspberries are huge, and what the dawgs don't eat, I am certainly enjoying. The first Honeycrisp apples have been disappointing. They need to be on the tree in some cooler weather to sweeten up. No Delicata squash at Trader Joe's; am on the hunt for BillBE's passion.

Anne, am hoping you are well enough to enjoy Survivor. This season is really a kick!

Will save my story of the anti climax of blowing past my goal and underneath my red line for another time; it truly was such an anti climax.

09-27-2009, 11:38 AM
Bill Maryblu's post reminded me that I had bought 3 Delicata squash at the fair yesterday. How do you cook them?

Maryblu :congrat: for hitting, and passing, your goal. It is so exciting!

Walking Princess
09-27-2009, 02:59 PM
Hello, I am back. I have really fallen off the wagon the last couple of weeks. I don't know what in the world happen but temptation has reared its ugly head on several occasions and I've just given in every time. I don't know why I have just been giving in, it's like all the skills I've learned go out the window. I have been still reading my cards and following my eating plan most of the time but if someone brings in donuts, watch out. I had one! Then I found myself sabatoging the rest of my day each and every time after I gave in. It's something I've been trying to work on the last couple of months and I was doing good but then I went back to my old habits. What the heck? Today I am trying to start fresh again and just leave the last few weeks behind and start again. I feel so mad at myself but what else can I do than just start fresh? I need to stay focused and accountable. Trying to focus on my own just didn't work. I need you guys! ;)

So far today: breakfast - op

Bill - I think the strawberry counts as fruit but you would probably have to add additional calories for the chocolate. Great job staying away from all the tempting food at the memorial service. Eating fruit was really smart and healthy. Sorry to hear your exercise plans went amiss. Maybe trying to keep your body warm burned some calories ;)

OnebyOne - bummer that you got rained out today but great job in getting so many items made. That's fantastic. Enjoy your visit with your mom today.

ChinaMaine - kudos for starting to be able to think like a thin person. That is such great news! :carrot: Your new habits are really starting to get instilled in you. How long have you been following Beck? Keep up the good work!

Maryblue - congratulations on blowing past your goal! That is fantastic! :carrot::carrot::carrot: Great job! It must feel good to see all your hard work pay off. Yea you! :-)

09-27-2009, 09:50 PM
:wave: been peeling wallpaper and getting alot done in prep for the guys coming on tuesday to start the new bathroom.

busy busy busy!

09-27-2009, 11:03 PM
Hi All,
Tracked food, credit. Resisted buying large chocolate bar, and the sabotaging thought that "I'll only eat a bit of it"--credit! 11,000 steps, credit.

RobinW--Hope all is well with the renovation.

WalkingPrincess--Welcome back! Those old pathways are worn in deep, and you just need more practice to make the new ones. How long have you been taking a donut when someone brings them? For me, that would be 40+ years. This isn't to discourage you, but to say that if you keep starting fresh eventually you will trounce those sabotaging thoughts.

maryblu--yay for daily swimming and Boz Scaggs!

ChinaMaine--that's fabulous that you didn't finish the pumpkin ice cream because it wasn't very good. That's a brilliant Beck move that will serve you well.

onebyone--I like your idea of making something everyday to keep the critical voice quiet! You are calling its bluff!

Bill--a true victory with the Indian food! Mindful eating at its best.

gardenerjoy--I really liked your strategy of taking the other half of the bratwurst, and splitting the cake--I'm so used to thinking in terms of wholes, and it's been quite a process learning that I can break them down into pieces.

wndranne--credit for taking on 4 year olds! And the sabotaging thoughts about digging for your notebook.

Kim in NH--Kudos for the thinking about alcohol and how to salvage those calories.

09-27-2009, 11:16 PM
:cb: :cb: :cb: <~~~~~ Im feeling great! For the first time in almost a month! Lets hope it stays that way when I get back to the shop tomorrow!

Asthma is kicking up, but I think thats because of all the paper peeling...I suspect its going to get worse once they start ripping apart the house. But thats ok.

Oh.......on the major plus side, Ive managed to get hubs to clean out some paper work. He actually had to empty the shredder 2x!!! Progress!

Food.....I think Ive come up with a plan. I just need to talk to the person who will be my personal chef (on the cheap) :lol: I'll let you know how it goes.

Exercise....paper scraping! I should have some awesome shoulders :D

Chat with you all tomorrow.

09-28-2009, 12:34 AM
I'm starting to notice the "Just one won't hurt" sabotaging thought. And, eating that one (chip or nut or whatever) standing up. Oddly enough, I think working on the standing up part of that might be the fastest fix. I'm really unlikely to take one chip and then sit down to eat it. So, recommitting to the "No eating while standing" rule.

WI: +0.65kgs , Exercise: +57, 1146/1200 minutes for September, Food: op (mostly), Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

BillBlueEyes: I'm pretty sure I'd call a chocolate-dipped strawberry a fruit! I'm pretty sure I would manage to skip my normal chocolate treat on the same day, though.

onebyone: probably best to stay out of rain, especially when recovering from stress and illness. Love the way you've dealt with that perfectionist voice -- what does it know about art, anyway? I think your avatar is great!

ChinaMaine: Yay for eating the yummy apple ice cream and ditching the less appealing pumpkin. I must admit I waited to get a neti pot until after my husband tried it! He uses it in the shower, but I take baths (which would be disgusting) so I do it over the sink and it's not messy at all.

maryblu: yay for goal! Even if it was anti-climatic. I'd love to hear that story. Glad you got so much from the concert experience.

Walking Princess: welcome back! I'm amazed at how motivated I am to keep on my plan when I know I'm going to write a post every day -- hope that works for you, too.

RobinW: hope all goes well with the bathroom. I'm so happy that you're feeling great after all this time!

Nuxmaga: Good job on dealing with the sabotaging thought and resisting the chocolate. I don't know that this would work for everyone, but I've been having a daily snack of dark chocolate chips and nuts in a tiny ramekin -- both are touted for their health benefits in small amounts and I find it's an acceptable substitute for the candy that I used to eat.

09-28-2009, 06:36 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Dinner at a Mediterranean restaurant with appropriate sized servings - a rather rare experience - CREDIT moi for being on plan despite cleaning my plate.

Sent a second day with no exercise, Oh Well. Feel like The Lost Weekend.

maryblu - Kudos for swimming September and Congrats for dropping down to under goal. I join the chorus who want to hear the story, every detailed ounce of it, LOL. Our Honey Crisps continue to be superb, hope yours get there. And Kudos for being young enough to take in a Boz Scaggs concert.

Thought you should know that DW made the Easy Fajitas recipe from page 7 of Oct09 Nutrition Action Health Letter. Was good, differing from a traditional recipe only by substituting black beans for some of the chicken - a good mix.

onebyone - Ouch for the rain after you're feeling better; Kudos for the acceptance via "not in my hands." Hope your visit with you mother went well.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for feeling great - hope that's the new plateau. Exciting news about the personal chef (Michael Jackson had one also); what's the story? Good luck doing the prep for bathroom overhaul.

ThinksLikeAThinPerson (ChinaMaine) - Kudos for not eating pumpkin ice cream when it was in your hand and already paid for. That would be a major event in my life were it to occur. LOL at aerobic raindrop dodger; failed that duty yesterday, but I suspect another opportunity will arise.

Are you ever in for a treat with your Delicata Squash. We halve them, scape the seeds, add a touch of Trader Joe's Pumpkin Butter, and bake til tender. DW also add a touch of butter to hers. I've had them with nothing on them because they're so naturally sweet.

Kara (Walking Princess) - Kudos for just jumping back on plan; it's the only sane choice. One donut is just an Oh Well event; the Beck strategies need to be called into play to stop it from spreading. Glad you're back.

Thanks for the thought about my chocolate dipped strawberries. Yep, I do need to acknowledge the chocolate part and account for it.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for 11000 steps and avoiding the chocolate bar. But Extra Kudos for resisting the Sabotaging Thought, "I'll only eat a bit of it" - yeah, right.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Apparently it's chocolate Sabotaging Thought day in the Beck world, LOL. Kudos for resisting "Just one won't hurt" - yeah, right (didn't I recently say that?) Using the no eating while standing rule is a genius response to killing that one.

Readers - day 1
Benefits of Weight Loss
. . .
Losing weight will likely affect them all for the better, but I'd like you to think about each of these specifically. For example, losing weight might mean feeling comfortable undressing in front of your partner
. . .
The Beck Diet Solution, pg 55-56.

salsa chip
09-28-2009, 08:11 AM

Can I join in here? My copy of "The Beck Diet Solution" arrived in the post a few days ago, and today is my "Day 1". I've been counting calories and exercising, but because for me weight loss is part of a larger "overhaul" (I'm in therapy, dealing with lots of issues) I thought it would be good to also see if I could apply some "techniques" to weight loss. I'm doing my best to take the entire program and stave off the "Ah, you don't need to do this step"-thoughts :)

09-28-2009, 10:33 AM
Welcome Salsa chip this a great place. I too am starting with the Beck process.. I am on day three.

My free weekend didn't turn out as I wanted it to but it is still pretty good. Eating was really bad for me this weekend. Today I not only am on day three which is the sitting down and eating. Which I thought was going to be easy, but no it's harder than I thought. I am also doing the NO S starting today. I was up almost all night (due to ulcer acting up) thinking of myself, how I want to change and what I need to do to do it.

Today is a new day and the start of the path to self improvement, emotionally and physcially.

09-28-2009, 03:51 PM
hi everyone,

another quickie! sigh. may be like this for a while, sadly.

had a little bit of a think yesterday in the car, and realized how many things i'm putting on hold because we're TTC. like weight loss and marathon training. fact is, everything suffers when i don't put my health and weightloss efforts first. stress gets more stressful, i'm distracted, i don't sleep as well. doesn't really matter what's going on - this has got to come first, because if it doesn't, the rest of my life is harder. and this takes a fair amount of work. time and energy. there are things that make it take less time and energy, but that's what planning is for. for me anyway, planning has to be a non-negotiable.

round i-don't-even-know to jeanie! (shaking head in disbelief that i needed to figure this out AGAIN.)

am back on the wagon, 100%. made a plan last night for today and tomorrow, and realized i needed to cook onions and peppers for my sandwich. which i did at 10:00 at night. today i'm really, really glad i took the time. it's so much easier when it's all written down in stone and packed the night before...also planned workout time in, so another item checked off.

i'm looking forward to losing again. that was a really exciting time for me, and i've missed it!

09-28-2009, 09:08 PM
:welcome3: Salsa Chip!!

Today wasnt too bad! :D

Exercise was cleaning, moving furniture and decluttering!

Talked to the fella today who I wanted to be my own personal chef. He has some major self esteem issues that I had absolutely no idea he had!!! WOW! When I told him my idea, what I wanted him to do and that he could start his own business doing this relatively inexpensively he gave me pretty much every reason why he couldnt do it. All personal stuff that I knocked way out of the field. By the time he left his brain was running 100mph and he was thrilled with the idea and that I was more than willing to help him out.

Now I'll be honest here....I want him to do this for purely selfish reasons! He's a great cook and he's looking for work. So why not make your own work. If he can tap into the working women market around here he'll have it made! As long as they dont take him away from me :lol:

He said he will come talk to me tomorrow. Hopefully he didnt talk himself out of it over night.

Im off......exciting day tomorrow! They start deconstructing the bathroom in the morning.

Have a wonderful evening.

09-28-2009, 09:50 PM
Hi Coaches

Well I think I have managed to cover my 1/2 of the rent this month. It's important for me to keep this promise to DH. So I think I can relax about that.
And my mother was all right but she was talking about her house and said she'd been worrying about what happened to all of her things and whether the house was empty or not. This was the thing she was most repetitive about and she must have asked me the same things several times. I'm not sure I allayed her fears. It made me feel a big wiggly. I don't like to think of her sitting there worrying ... makes me think she's actually sad and this is my projection onto her so I need to be careful with that. My brother and I brought her to the store and got her some things for her place and I bought some instant coffee, tea and hot chocolate for when I go there to visit her. I want to create some rituals between us for my visits to her place.
When we were at the store she wanted a paint by number so I got one too. We were both laughoing about it as I picked a really cheesy dolphin one and she got a farm scene wiht a big rooster in it. We'll do it together unless she does it on her own. So mostly it's all good with her but I guess I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. Maybe it's all fine? Hope so.

Anyway I also got to the school and checked in wiht the ceramic room and I stopped in at my alma mater as they had a graduate school fair on and I got some shiny pamphlets about MFA's and MA programs in visual arts. Maybe I'll take a real look at that now.

Anyway food was okay, but it's so obvious to me I need to plan and write things down and I need to say a Big NO to several food items I've been having.

I finished the End of Overeating book. I cannot believe how close to Beck it is! Wow. A great book. I am 3/4 through Brain Rules as well and still just at the beginning of Volumetrics and Thin For Life. I think all these books plus the Beck books are essential reading along with Michael Pollan's In Defense of Food. I feel like I am getting a true education in how to eat and how to see food and how to figure out what is best for me...and then how to stick to it when I decide what my plan is. Interesting.

maryblu Congrats and credit on reaching and surpassing your goal! I love hearing your good news!

:wave: to everyone and :wave: to the newbies and I have to run.
:wave: bye to all.

09-28-2009, 10:14 PM
I succeeded at not eating while standing and, with that, more easily resisted my grazing impulses. Now that I'm not doing it, I realize it's a response to missing being full. I liked that feeling and used to get it several times a day. Now, I get that fullness feeling once a day and not always that. I'm not hungry all that much but I'm not full either. Oh well. I suspect, like cravings, that desire will dissipate over time. A bit of a grieving process in the meantime, though.

WI: -0.35kgs , Exercise: +45, 1191/1200 minutes for September, Food: op, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

BillBlueEyes: yay for finding a restaurant with appropriately-sized servings

salsa chip: welcome! So glad to see you over here.

carla70: that "no eating while standing" rule was more difficult than expected for me, too. But I'm finding several benefits. Most recently, as above, it helps me curb grazing behavior. Also, I've realized that one of the reasons I used to overeat was just to take a break. Well, eating what I planned while sitting down is a break. Particularly the snacks. So, it has reduced my desire to do one of my most damaging behaviors.

kuhljeanie: Yay, jeanie! That sounds like really important mental work. Thanks for modeling it. It seems like some things have to be figured out several times before they really take up residence in the brain.

RobinW: cool about the personal chef! What a clever idea.

onebyone: Sounds like your mother's doing well under the circumstances. Love the idea of the cheesy paint-by-numbers! I'm so glad that you're finding the books helpful. Have I mentioned my 90-book goal here? I set a goal to read 90 books that support my health lifestyle -- one for each pound I want to lose. I've finished nine so far.

:wave: Hello to everyone else!

09-28-2009, 10:24 PM
Hi All,
Tracked food, credit. Zumba, credit. Backed away from the pudding parfaits at the cafeteria, credit.

Called to schedule my surgery, and the schedule is full in October and November isn't ready yet. Sigh. Ate junk after work on the way to Zumba which depressed my mood. I am finding though, if I am honest and record all the calories, I feel more in control and less despairing because I've made it quantifiable, and therefore open to modification. At least I'm hoping it is!

Welcome Salsa Chip!

Off to bed.