Weight Loss Surgery - who is weight loss surgery for?




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juliastl27
08-15-2009, 07:33 PM
i doubt i am a candidate, and don't think it'd be a viable option for me anyway, but just out of gross curiosity, can anyone get it? i am 5'7 or 5'8 and 180lb. my BMI is around 28.5. are there certain requirements regarding height and weight or body fat percentage?


kiramira
08-15-2009, 08:01 PM
I don't have it, but from what I've seen on this board, if you can afford it you can get it. Mexico is one option. The UK. I'm sure you can get it in the Dominican Republic. India. Thailand. Where the liability/legal laws of the US won't follow you...sigh...

Kira

Crystal530
08-15-2009, 08:10 PM
I do not believe you meet the requirements to have this surgery; you must be at least 100# overw:goodluck::goodluck:eight and have a higher BMI.


kiramira
08-15-2009, 08:46 PM
In the UK, you can get lap band privately if your bmi is 30+, meaning that at your height (5 ft 8), you would be eligible at 197 lbs.
http://privatehealth.co.uk/hospitaltreatment/find-a-treatment/obesity-treatment/guide-obesity-surgery/eligible-surgery/

For Mexico, bmi of 33+ meaning you would be eligible at 217 lbs.
http://www.worldmedassist.com/Weight-Loss-Surgery-Abroad.htm

In India, you don't need a doctor's referral to get this done:
http://www.treatmentabroad.com/obesity-abroad/india/forerunners-healthcare/


Standards vary from country to country, and I don't think there would be much problem finding someone to do a lap band for example if you had enough cash...

Sigh...

Kira

bargoo
08-15-2009, 08:46 PM
I believe it is for those with at least 100 pounds to lose.

Leenie
08-15-2009, 09:02 PM
Depends on your insurance, each one has different requirements. I would suggest calling them to see if 1. your covered and 2. what the requirements are.

If your self pay you'll most likely qualify.

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jillybean720
08-15-2009, 09:04 PM
In the US, you must have a BMI of at least 40 OR a BMI of 35-39.9 if you have weight-related comorbidities (such as type 2 diabetes, hypertension, sleep apnea, etc.). That is, if you go to a reputable surgeon and are hoping to have any insurance coverage.

Jennelle
08-15-2009, 09:14 PM
I would strongly recommend that you do a lot more research before you jump into lap band surgery. While it works for some people, it's starting to look like it doesn't work for a lot MORE people. Besides, it's major surgery and can have some serious complications, including death.

juliastl27
08-15-2009, 09:21 PM
i should clarify, this isnt really something im considering for myself. i was just curious about the procedure, whether they just do it to anyone or if there is specific criteria.

kiramira
08-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Ya, actually you were pretty clear in your original post IMHO!!! I think that in the US there are strict standards. In Canada, too. In other countries, not so much!!!

Kira

juliastl27
08-15-2009, 09:43 PM
Ya, actually you were pretty clear in your original post IMHO!!! I think that in the US there are strict standards. In Canada, too. In other countries, not so much!!!

Kira

i thought i was too, lol. but, ya never know. thanks for all the info!

beerab
08-15-2009, 11:38 PM
I'd never go for surgery in Mexico- I've seen some horror stories!

That being said- I'd never recommend it for someone with a BMI of under 40- mostly because you have to go through a lot before and after the surgery, and I hear you have to take vitamin supplements for the rest of your life.

Unfortunately many people seem to go into it not understanding the repercussions of this surgery. They don't understand that they can't eat the same way anymore (I've heard of patients restretching out their stomachs), they don't understand they will have mental as well as physical problems that can occur, and so on.

I think if someone is willing to go through all the proper steps, do EVERYTHING the doctor says, and is determined to get possibly some therapy and so on to make sure the process is as safe and effective as possible THEN it's a good idea.

My mom's friend thought about going through it but when I talked to her about the fact she has to change her whole lifestyle she changed her mind. I said if you aren't willing to change your lifestyle and eat better and exercise and so on, then don't do it because you'll just get fat again AND you'll have to stick with the supplements and other things you have to do post surgery for the rest of your life.

harrismm
08-15-2009, 11:46 PM
[QUOTE=beerab;2877431]I'd never go for surgery in Mexico- I've seen some horror stories!

I have seen many horror stories in the US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beerab
08-15-2009, 11:55 PM
True, but I would think the US is better regulated than Mexico at least.

harrismm
08-16-2009, 12:02 AM
Dont know about specific country standards of practice.Considering malpractice issues, And licensure standards, I would guess risks are pretty equal.Its a high risk surgery in general because It will be years before we truly understand the long term risks.I see people every day with compliactions,many years after surgery.

Leenie
08-16-2009, 08:03 AM
Besides, it's major surgery and can have some serious complications, including death.

All surgeries have a risk of serious complications including death.

would strongly recommend that you do a lot more research before you jump into lap band surgery While it works for some people, it's starting to look like it doesn't work for a lot MORE people. .

Where did you acquire this info? I know many who have had the surgery and are healthy happy campers.

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ladybugnessa
08-16-2009, 08:25 AM
i doubt i am a candidate, and don't think it'd be a viable option for me anyway, but just out of gross curiosity, can anyone get it? i am 5'7 or 5'8 and 180lb. my BMI is around 28.5. are there certain requirements regarding height and weight or body fat percentage?


I Have not read the other replies yet.

My husband is having RNY on Tuesday and I am scheduled for 9/22.

Requirements usually are a BMI of 40 or higher (his is about 55 now and mine is about 49) OR a BMI of 35 with at least two co-morbidities (High blood pressure, diabetes, sleep apnea, or other weight related illnesses)

IN fact, our surgeon (and most surgeons with realistic expectations) are looking for a BMI of between 25 and 30 for a final result.

jillybean720
08-17-2009, 01:56 PM
There are some fabulous surgeons and facilities in Mexico - surgery in Mexico (or Spain or Brazil...) is an excellent option for those who do not have insurance coverage and cannot afford the insane prices charged here in the US. Just as with any surgeon in the US, just make sure you do thorough research on that specific surgeon's stats and patients before hopping on the table.

Jennelle
08-17-2009, 06:17 PM
http://www.bariatriclearningcenter.com/articles/problems-with-lap-band-surgery-patient-stories/

KO
08-19-2009, 01:26 PM
I was speaking with a lady at my job today. She's considering LapBand and goign to a seminar tomorrow.
Correct me if I'm wrong
Her doctor told her Lapband was Same day surgery that she'd be in and out in a half hour
I said No you'll at least be in the hospital a day or so depending on your surgeon
I gave her this site and a few others to check out
and the name of my doc

i checked otu some surgeons before I found mine
and let me tell you
1 told me they could schedule me in a month before they even saw me
and I was so uncomfortable with the other I didn't want to shake his hand let alone let him cut me!

ladybugnessa
08-19-2009, 02:01 PM
i'm in the hospital with hubby he had RNY yesterday--we go home tonite.

our surgeon at a COE does LapBand as out patient and our insurance (BC/BS federal) approves lapband as outpatient now. outpatient is considered 23 hours

nelie
08-19-2009, 02:05 PM
As many have said, if you have enough money, you can probably get WLS. I've heard some extreme stories where people with minimal weight to lose (like 30 lbs) have gotten it.

I would think the general guidelines of getting the surgery would be when the risks of not getting the surgery outweigh the risks of getting the surgery. Insurance companies may tag a number based on BMI and what not but in essence they are really trying to make sure that your health is at risk before they put up the money for the surgery. Ethical doctors as well are doing the same but unethical doctors can do what ever fills up their pocket books.

For me personally, I never felt my life was in immediate danger when I was super morbidly obese so surgery wasn't an option for me.

mirasha
08-19-2009, 05:40 PM
I have had friends consider this type of surgery, and it is really dependent on where you live and who your doctor and insurance companies are. The same applies to things like breast reductions. (In Canada, did you know a doctor won't approve a breast reduction unless you demonstrate you can lose fourty pounds? Even to young women who are already extremely thin 'blessed' with extremely large breasts. A recipe for anorexia, in my honest (and rather blunt) opinion. Be careful what some doctors tell you and always get a second opinion, especially on a significan surgery like that. Even if you're overweight, exhaust every other option first, since there are so many unknown factors when dealing with this type of surgery.. and unlike dieting habits, once you go down the path of surgery, you can't just change your mind.

Good luck!

ladybugnessa
08-19-2009, 08:44 PM
Even if you're overweight, exhaust every other option first, since there are so many unknown factors when dealing with this type of surgery.. and unlike dieting habits, once you go down the path of surgery, you can't just change your mind.

Good luck!


you do realize that even having this surgery means permanant lifestyle changes right?

harrismm
08-19-2009, 10:29 PM
I do think people realize that is the plan after surgery.The problem is, people find their addiction to food has not disappeared along with their normal digestive anatomy.Hence, difficulity keeping weight off long term.If people could adapt the required lifestyle changes...wouldnt they be able to do the same without having surgery??

ladybugnessa
08-20-2009, 01:07 AM
I do think people realize that is the plan after surgery.The problem is, people find their addiction to food has not disappeared along with their normal digestive anatomy.Hence, difficulity keeping weight off long term.If people could adapt the required lifestyle changes...wouldnt they be able to do the same without having surgery??

I know too many folks who were not successful LONG TERM before WLS who are successful LONG TERM after, to believe I will not be one of them.

I Know what to do I did it for 2.5 years. I lost 76 pounds but COULD NOT BUDGE THE REST AND CONTINUE TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE. (normal meaning healthy eating and moderate exercise). I could NOT break 200 pounds. It was insanely frustrating.

Therefore adapting to the required lifestyle changes without surgery left me unsuccessful, frustrated and hence I quit. I mean why do the hard stuff if you don't get results?

My belief is that with the surgery I will be able to get to a weight that's desirable for both myself, my surgeon and society to accept. And maintain it.

KO
08-20-2009, 09:58 AM
Nessa You're goign to rock this! You're disciplined you're Creative and you want to do it!

jiffypop
08-20-2009, 11:22 AM
Let's take a vote, folks.

I'd like to close this thread -we're getting WAY off topic, and i'd rather move posts like Nessa's into their own thread so that we can all cheer her and DH on.

SOOO =

close it?

leave it open?

let me know!!!!

KO
08-20-2009, 11:39 AM
Close it! sorry for the OT jiff

ladybugnessa
08-20-2009, 11:59 AM
i'm fine with you wanting to close it. no moving of posts needed.

nelie
08-20-2009, 12:22 PM
Before this gets closed...

NESSA - Good luck to you and your husband!!!!

ladybugnessa
08-20-2009, 12:37 PM
Before this gets closed...

NESSA - Good luck to you and your husband!!!!

ah gee thanks!

BeeMom
08-23-2009, 03:10 PM
I had a vertical sleeve gastrectomy in Mexico in June. Did a lot of research on Mexican surgeons and have been really pleased with the results.