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jamiewyn
08-13-2009, 05:12 PM
I like my coffee SWEET and I MUST have my coffee. I use around 4-5 tablespoons of sugar a morning. (I drink a whole pot). This is the one thing I have not been able to give up. I have my box of Spenda in the cupboard, but I have yet to open it.

So. Go ahead and let me have it. Tell me WHY I must give up my morning sugar. I know many of you know the science behind sugar and many of you have given it up.

Inspire me to have a sugar-free coffee tomorrow please! ;)


Rebound
08-13-2009, 05:20 PM
5 tablespoons of sugar equals 232 calories. If it's worth the calories to you, plan for them, account for them, and eat the sugar.

If you can think of a better way to spend 232 calories than either cut out the coffee or learn to love artificial sweeteners :)

Only you can decide what is more important to you!

kuhljeanie
08-13-2009, 05:22 PM
i'm not a coffee fiend, and the sugar thing i get, but going cold turkey on anything that you're that attached to? nope!

how about just using 3-4 tablespoons sugar tomorrow morning, and for the next few days? then, maybe in a week, go to 2-3 tablespoons. and so on. why make things intentionally hard on yourself?


Beck
08-13-2009, 05:27 PM
I used to be a big coffee drinker, too. I like mine light and sweet, so I'd have it with cream and sugar. I've basically weaned myself off coffee completely, and when I do have the occasional cup I'll have it with skim milk and Splenda. There is a difference in taste, but I'd rather have it that way then having to account for those extra calories.

Give it a try- you just might like it.

TXJess
08-13-2009, 05:27 PM
When I started cutting out more and more sugar I found sweetened coffee was just overwhelming, especially in the morning. Now I just have it black.

Maybe this will happen for you, maybe not. If you must have sugar I'd recommend cutting back. However if you find it becomes a trigger (those that always have sweets with coffee) you might have to consider eliminating it.

It's all about what works for you. Good luck.

Beck
08-13-2009, 05:28 PM
Another thought- maybe you can go half and half with the sugar and Splenda?

kiramira
08-13-2009, 05:49 PM
Hon, exactly WHY are you wanting to give up the sugar in your coffee???

I'm just wondering the reasoning, because I do WW where if we have something we really, really like we can plan it into our days. There are just some things I can't (read won't!) give up, so I choose to plan them in.

So I'm just wondering why, if you like it so much and can plan it in, and it is a controllable thing for you, why you are trying to give it up? Not judging, just trying to get to your reasoning, so I can give better advice!!!

Kira

lapelosa
08-13-2009, 05:58 PM
I do like my sweet coffee.... Very gradually, over the course of a year or so, I lessened the amount of sugar I put in my coffee, as my taste buds adjusted. I found that for the second cup of coffee, because my taste buds had adjusted, I actually needed less sugar than for the first cup. Now, I have two cups of coffee a day, a teaspoon of sugar each, so 30 extra calories, not a big deal. I want _some_ sweetness in my coffee, so I'm not willing to cut further. I don't like fake foods, like artificial sugar -- I'd rather just have less of the real thing.

I support you in your efforts! You don't have to go cold turkey -- just lessen it, little by little.

Onederchic
08-13-2009, 06:10 PM
5 tablespoons of sugar equals 232 calories. If it's worth the calories to you, plan for them, account for them, and eat the sugar.

If you can think of a better way to spend 232 calories than either cut out the coffee or learn to love artificial sweeteners :)

Only you can decide what is more important to you!

My thoughts exactly. Very well put, Rebound :D

WaterRat
08-13-2009, 06:16 PM
That's a lot of calories (or WW points if that's what you count) for a morning beverage. I totally understand that you enjoy it and are fighting giving it up. There are proponents of both the cold turkey and the gradual cutting down methods. For me, gradual works better. I don't like artificial sweetners, so I'd go for the less each day method, but something else may work better for you. :) Good luck, you can do it!

jamiewyn
08-13-2009, 07:51 PM
Thanks for all the advice, ladies. I think I will try 50/50 sugar/splenda in the mornings and see if I can't wean myself.

Kira, good question and I do see your point. There have been several things I refuse to give up (cheese, for example. I just use less rather than eat the fat free varieties). My concern w/the sugar in the coffee is I'm still having to FORCE myself to eat breakfast and I usually have to be awake for 2 hours just to choke down a cup of yogurt. Coffee, on the other hand, is brewing while I'm wiping the sleep from my eyes! :lol: I'm being careful to make sure there is some protein in all my snacks and meals (since I'm exercising more) and I'm worried that 200+ calories of pure carbs in the morning is a bad idea.

hhhhmmm. seems I already knew it was. I'm just new to all of this and feel like I'm facing a STEEP learning curve and it helps to hear other's opinions. :)

Thanks again, everyone. Can't wait for the day when *I* can share some wisdom. :D

JulieJ08
08-13-2009, 09:12 PM
I don't know that you *have* to give it up. Different things work for different people. For me, giving up daily sugar broke it's hold on me. Now I can have dessert once a week and not be wanting it all week.

EZMONEY
08-13-2009, 11:29 PM
For what it's worth I used to drink a lot of coffee...all day long. I always had it with a teaspoon of sugar, 2 for my 20 oz. cup. My ex-wife always had hers black, it always tasted bitter to me. I cut out the sugar for a "trial" basis, mostly on the advice of my dentist, after a few days it seemed like coffee with no sugar was the way I always had it. I would never had believed it. It has been around 10 years now and every now and then I will put just a little in a cup that is extra bitter (Starbucks sometimes) and to be honest I hate the sweet taste now.

Bonus ~ I lost 4 pounds in two weeks! remember...I drank A LOT of coffee.

Good Luck.

souvenirdarling
08-13-2009, 11:41 PM
Because of diabetes.

I am a serious coffee drinker too - I work at a cafe and have access to aaaaaall sorts of sweet stuff :( My father had his coffee like you, too, and it brought him very close to the edge. He had no choice but to cut down - so he drank less coffee. I opted to change my sugar intake gradually to zero. My excuse is snoberry - you can really taste the uniqueness of the coffee, the distinctness of its roast and its origins. (I also spend 8 bucks for a pound of Costa Rican fair trade coffee. I love it and it makes my day, the wallet ouchies are really worth it.)

You could make coffee milder - I drink a lot of less-strong-but-delicious coffee, and have it black.

You could make a sort of caffe latte with skim milk. I have an easy shmeazy stove espresso maker and a metal milk frother that lets me heat milk on the stove. The milk sweetens it (a bit) and offers me calcium and protein that I wouldn't otherwise have.

Make yourself a coffee protein shake? You could refridgerate cold coffee, use a bit of splenda.

sidhe
08-14-2009, 12:37 AM
Just fyi--consumption of sugar CANNOT directly cause diabetes. There's a LOT more going on in the body of a person who has diabetes.

That said, if you have a family history of developing type 2, it's a wise idea to be careful.

jendiet
08-14-2009, 02:30 AM
I used to drink my coffee with 2 tsp sugar and 1/4 cup milk. The other day I tried it black and also with a hint of almond milk. Either way was fine. I don't drink alot of coffee now. But dark chocolate...um don't get me started.

pintobean
08-14-2009, 08:51 AM
I have a similar issue. I need my morning one 16-20oz cup of coffee and I like mine sweet as well. In another thread, I'd mentioned I've been a splenda/artificial sugar user for many, many years (in coffee). I put 3 packets of splenda in my morning coffee. That's how sweet I liked it.

Earlier this year, I cut out all artificial sweetners from my life. I went back to raw sugar in my coffee and boy did the coffee taste like crap. I was trying to limit the amount of sugar that went in my coffee. 1 Tsp of sugar = 15 cals and I was using 2 tsp in coffee and it tasted bitter to me. Let me tell you, re-training your taste buds is not easy. I've been using sugar now for over 4 months and in these months coffee hasn't tasted the same. I tried light agave and stevia as well and for the amount of calories to make it sweet agave just wasn't worth it for me. So, it was back to sugar for me. I caved and recently started putting 3 tsp in coffee and it is tolerable. I'm hoping with time it will get easy for me but I highly doubt it. I have a terrible sweet tooth which I'm thinking is also part of the reason why it is taking me this long to adjust.

Have you tried Stevia? I didn't like it cuz of the bitter aftertaste but many people love it. It comes in both powder and liquid form. From what I've heard, liquid is tad sweeter.

Good Luck!! Hope you find a happy medium :)

Tomato
08-14-2009, 10:37 AM
5 tablespoons of sugar equals 232 calories. If it's worth the calories to you, plan for them, account for them, and eat the sugar.


I don't agree with this. I think it 5 tablespoons is a horrible amount of sugar and it can't be good for the body. Just think of the blood sugar spike this will produce and then the crash later on.

In fact, I am surprised that 5 tablespoons of sugar have only 232 calories. I would expect the calories to be higher, but that is not that important.

I used to drink my coffee sweet, too, although not as sweet as you - I cringe at the thought of how sickeningly sweet it must be that's just my taste buds. :-) I was using a teaspoon of sugar per mug, something like that. I don't recall how I learned to drink my coffee sans sugar - if I gradually decreased or if I went cold turkey - this was many years ago.
I would not give up milk in my coffee - and a lot of milk I have to say - my ex used to say I like my milk with a little bit of coffee. I do crave sweet coffee sometimes and a few times a year I buy the flavoured coffee sweetener (from Nestle or others) - I like caramel taste and such. Those usually have about 35 calories per spoon (I don't recall if it is a teaspoon or tablespoon) but by the time I am done with the bottle I think it's too many "empty" calories and that is enough to wean myself for a couple of month.

I think the suggestion to combine sugar with an artificial sweetener is a good one and also I would suggest that you start - very gradually - decrease the amount of sugar/art. sweetener you use. For example, if you make a pot of coffee and sweeten the entire pot, try 4.5 tablespoons instead of 5 tablespoons - something like that.

Good luck!

JulieJ08
08-14-2009, 11:06 AM
my ex used to say I like my milk with a little bit of coffee.

Ha ha, that's me too!

jamiewyn
08-14-2009, 01:56 PM
Just for the record, the 4-5 tablespoons is spread throughout a whole POT of coffee. If it was in one mug, I think my teeth might fall out! :lol:

I mixed my sugar and splenda this morning and it wasn't too bad. As I adjust to the taste, I'll start weaning the sugar out completely.

EveLHaelf
08-14-2009, 02:22 PM
Because of diabetes.

I am a serious coffee drinker too - I work at a cafe and have access to aaaaaall sorts of sweet stuff :( My father had his coffee like you, too, and it brought him very close to the edge. He had no choice but to cut down - so he drank less coffee. I opted to change my sugar intake gradually to zero. My excuse is snoberry - you can really taste the uniqueness of the coffee, the distinctness of its roast and its origins. (I also spend 8 bucks for a pound of Costa Rican fair trade coffee. I love it and it makes my day, the wallet ouchies are really worth it.)

You could make coffee milder - I drink a lot of less-strong-but-delicious coffee, and have it black.

You could make a sort of caffe latte with skim milk. I have an easy shmeazy stove espresso maker and a metal milk frother that lets me heat milk on the stove. The milk sweetens it (a bit) and offers me calcium and protein that I wouldn't otherwise have.

Make yourself a coffee protein shake? You could refridgerate cold coffee, use a bit of splenda.

OOOOH I love this idea! I totally quit drinking coffee because I had to have TONS of sugar or honey in it to make it sweet and a lot of milk to lighten it up. But I think I would really like the protein shake idea! I'll have to try it.

edited to ad: oh and I loved my coffee with 5 tbsp per CUP. That's how I gotta have my green tea too.....so I had to cut it out.

dragonwoman64
08-14-2009, 02:49 PM
I checked fitday and it said 5 tsps of sugar was 81 calories. one tsp is 16 calories. 200 plus sounded like a lot to me.

sugar can be pretty villified, impo. I think since it's calories that don't nutritionally do anything for you, and since it can cause problems with blood sugar if you're consuming large amounts of it, it's good to keep an eye on how much I use. With coffee, that's a combination that can give you something of a jolt, ha.

I personally love coffee, but never got into the habit of drinking it sweetened, though with espresso or instant bustello (ever have that? is good), I like it with milk and sugar. I do that fairly rarely, not even once a month, maybe once every couple of months.

one thing, having your coffee extra sweet might amp up your internal sweet meter, and it gets so that you have a need to have your sweet foods be sweeter. same goes for salt. if you don't want to spare the calories for the sugar, you might try gradually cutting down on how sweet you drink it. I'd imagine it wouldn't be long before you used one to two teaspoons and felt like that would be plenty sweet for you.

getting salts and sugars at more reasonable levels I think has helped me get a better sense of what foods really taste like.

pintobean
08-14-2009, 03:04 PM
...one thing, having your coffee extra sweet might amp up your internal sweet meter, and it gets so that you have a need to have your sweet foods be sweeter. same goes for salt. if you don't want to spare the calories for the sugar, you might try gradually cutting down on how sweet you drink it. I'd imagine it wouldn't be long before you used one to two teaspoons and felt like that would be plenty sweet for you....

I don't know how much of this is true but it wasn't like that for me. I started drinking coffee in the last 10 years or so but I've always craved sweet foods and had a bad sweet tooth. Of course, every body is different ;)

Rebound
08-14-2009, 03:14 PM
I checked fitday and it said 5 tsps of sugar was 81 calories. one tsp is 16 calories. 200 plus sounded like a lot to me.

The OP said tablespoons, not teaspoons.

jamiewyn
08-14-2009, 03:32 PM
Funny thing is, coffee is the only thing I crave sweetened. I do not have a sweet tooth otherwise. I can resist ALL desserts with little problem. Ice cream, cake cheesecakes etc. Maybe I get my sugar fill in the morning and my body can't handle anymore later on! :lol:

dragonwoman64
08-14-2009, 03:32 PM
The OP said tablespoons, not teaspoons.


you're right! :o sorry about that, I had tspoons on the brain!!

rachinma
08-14-2009, 04:07 PM
I like my coffee SWEET and I MUST have my coffee. I use around 4-5 tablespoons of sugar a morning. (I drink a whole pot). This is the one thing I have not been able to give up. I have my box of Spenda in the cupboard, but I have yet to open it.

So. Go ahead and let me have it. Tell me WHY I must give up my morning sugar. I know many of you know the science behind sugar and many of you have given it up.

Inspire me to have a sugar-free coffee tomorrow please! ;)
If 5T of sugar = 232 calories, then 1 year of 5T of sugar a day = 84,680 calories, or 24lbs.

dragonwoman64
08-14-2009, 04:13 PM
I looked up sweet receptors at wikipedia, kind of interesting...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweetness

Despite the wide variety of chemical substances known to be sweet, and knowledge that the ability to perceive sweet taste must reside in taste buds on the tongue, the biomolecular mechanism of sweet taste was sufficiently elusive that as recently as the 1990s, there was some doubt whether any single "sweetness receptor" actually exists.

The breakthrough for the present understanding of sweetness occurred in 2001, when experiments with laboratory mice showed that mice possessing different versions of the gene T1R3 prefer sweet foods to different extents. Subsequent research has shown that the T1R3 protein forms a complex with a related protein, called T1R2, to form a G-protein coupled receptor that is the sweetness receptor in mammals.[7]

Sweetness perception may differ between species significantly. For example, even amongst the primates sweetness is quite variable. New World monkeys do not find aspartame sweet, while Old World monkeys, apes and humans all do.[8] Felidae like cats cannot perceive sweetness at all.
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I found this about salt, which I must have read in some other context, which is where I got the idea:

http://www.consumerreports.org/health/healthy-living/diet-nutrition/diets-dieting/shaking-salt-and-sugar-from-your-diet-1-08/overview/salt-and-sugar-ov.htm

Retrain your taste buds. Scale back the amount of salt used at the table and in cooking to reduce your exposure to its taste. After three months, most people no longer miss salt, research shows.

it didn't say that about sugar. I think I've personally experienced it more with salt, I have something of a sweet tooth, but not overwhelming.

jamiewyn
08-14-2009, 07:04 PM
If 5T of sugar = 232 calories, then 1 year of 5T of sugar a day = 84,680 calories, or 24lbs.

:THUD:

Thank you.

WOW

pintobean
08-14-2009, 07:50 PM
...it didn't say that about sugar. I think I've personally experienced it more with salt, I have something of a sweet tooth, but not overwhelming.

Same here. We've cut back on salt drastically and with ease. Initially, it wasn't easy but week after week it just became easier consuming less salt. My sweet tooth is pretty bad. I can't explain how good I feel when something really sweet touches my tongue...simply put, it's a great feeling :D. That's why I'm having a hard time with less sugar in coffee. I'm just hoping with time it will get better...we shall see.

Thanks for the links.

rachinma
08-15-2009, 11:44 AM
:THUD:

Thank you.

WOW

I thought that ought to do it. ;)