Weight Loss Surgery - Reconsidering my choice of weight loss:
07-30-2009, 01:00 PM
After seeing my doctor Tuesday and talking to him again about the WLS, I am leaning more towards having the WLS.
Talking to him wasn't my only reason for going ahead with wanting the surgery. After joining this group I started paying attention to what I eat and why. I did notice that I do love sweets and my control over that realization throughout my life works some times and doesn't other times. Because of the problems I am having with my knees and back and inability to be able to even walk around the house without severe pain makes me realize that I no longer can do this on my own. As I stated in the other thread, which I am sad to see is now closed, that some times one needs just a little bit of help to succeed in what I need to do.
*takes a deep breath*
It really is a tough decision and one I am not making lightly. Yes, I did do a lot of research 2 years ago and listened to those that had the WLS and how happy they are with their decision and most importantly, if they had to do it all over again would they still consider WLS, and they said yes, they would. That does make me feel more comfortable in my decision to also have the WLS.
Am I scared? ****, YES! Who wouldn't be? Going under the knife or whatever type of surgery one has, is a scary event.
Now? I am so glad I found this forum because I know I can read everyone's posts and get the support I will need to follow through with this decision.
Thank you all for creating and keeping this forum for all of those out there that need the support to lose weight no matter how they do it!
07-30-2009, 01:02 PM
Also, my weight on the doctor's scale was 340. :( Well, that is ok. It will slowly be coming off! :)
07-30-2009, 01:44 PM
Good Luck to you! My aunt did surgery and is doing so well. It has helped in all aspects of her life. She also sees a dietician and a therapist to help her. I'm not sure if these are recommended, but you may want to look into the extra help and support.
07-30-2009, 01:54 PM
It is all good, accept any kind of help offered. I would do it all over again.
07-30-2009, 02:21 PM
It is all good, accept any kind of help offered. I would do it all over again.
Good luck and :welcome: to 3FC's
07-30-2009, 03:38 PM
wow - i KNOW that you've thought long and hard about this decision. how do you feel now that you've made it?
i remember when i finally realized i had no choice but to have surgery. it was peaceful, almost as if there was an understanding that this would be a new chapter in my life. and that the biggest thing i'd have to change was my ATTITUDE. remember - you'll have to develop whole new ways of coping with stress and people and, well, just EVERYTHING.
and that's OK. and we'll be here with you.
07-30-2009, 09:28 PM
Believe me making the decision to have WLS is a huge one that noone should take lightly.
Surgery is very scary and there are alot of things that can go wrong...that is why you must know what you are getting into.
This is the perfect place to read, discover and learn about WLS. People are able to air their stories, share their ups and downs as well as make friends.
We are all in this together!:hug:
08-03-2009, 05:13 PM
jeweliek: thank you for your response. Yes, a dietician and therapist are recommended when one does all the pre-meetings for the WLS. I'm glad to hear your aunt is doing so well! :)
annie175 & Leenie: I'm glad to hear that you would do it all over again. That does help a lot!
jiffypop: I feel nervous. Part of me knows I need this help and the other part feels as though I have lost control of being able to do this myself. I am giving myself a month to try it on my own again and if that fails then definitely I have to have the WLS. Just means I wasn't able to control my eating myself which doesn't necessarily a bad thing. It is probably akin to alcoholics and drug addicts.
It does warm my heart and bring tears to my eyes knowing there are so many people here that DO understand what I am going through as you have all gone through it as well. I am so grateful for finding this site.
Ok, just weighed myself on my scales. 8-3-09 4:12 PM (my time) 336.0. I actually started cutting back on the amount and what I eat on the 1st so I'm hoping I will be able to at least drop 10 pounds before the month is over. I will keep everyone posted!
*gives EVERYONE a big warm hug*
08-03-2009, 06:15 PM
It does warm my heart and bring tears to my eyes knowing there are so many people here that DO understand what I am going through as you have all gone through it as well.
Boy do we understand... you've come to the right place sweetie :hug:
08-03-2009, 08:03 PM
you're doing the right thing. Gotta tell you, though, what pushed me over the edge to have the surgery [besides being bedridden]: it offered me the best chance to lose the weight AND KEEP IT OFF!!!!
when i actually sat down and thought about how much i'd gained and lost over the years, it was MORE THAN 500 pounds - and that was nothing but CYCLING up and down, up and down.
At least this way, i have a fighting chance of keeping it off. if i gain, i can lose again [and it hasn't been the huge amounts of cycling]. work the tool. work the tool.
Leenie's right - we DO understand. WLS is not for those who have gained and and lost the same 15-20 pounds so that they go from, say, a size 8 to a 10 and back again. it's a whole different world in WLS!!!!
08-06-2009, 12:57 PM
Leenie: *cries knowing she isn't alone*
I do have my fiance but it is still a struggle within me that I have a problem. He will listen which is great but there is a difference between understanding and KNOWING.
jiffypop: You are so correct! I hate those that say they have struggled all their lives with their weight when they only deal with that 10-20 pounds!
I believe if I got to over 400 then I too would have not even tried it any more on my on because then I would know that what ever I was doing wasn't working. I know I had troubles moving about at 375. I couldn't even drive! I am so very proud of you for the weight you have managed to lose! No matter how you did it!
I remember going through the seminar 2 years ago and even though someone has the surgery, it is still possible to mess up and gain weight back. So, keeping it off no matter how you do it, is a royal success story! :hug:
Well, I guess I have some good news!
Ok, just weighed myself on my scales. 8-3-09 4:12 PM (my time) 336.0.
I weighed a few minutes ago: 11:30 AM 8-6-09 and I weighed 330.2!!!!! I was thinking I wasn't losing anything but this just makes my day! :rolf:
Now, I noticed there is another topic for support. Should I start posting there instead of here?
I don't believe I read the scale correctly so I am going to weigh again: Yup! 330.2! :dance:
08-06-2009, 12:59 PM
jiffypop: I am curious as to how you lost the 100 pounds in 4 months prior to your surgery? Did the surgeon want you to lose that before they would perform the surgery? 100 pounds in 4 months is really awesome!
08-06-2009, 01:31 PM
that 100 pounds is part of the huge saga. yes, the surgeon wanted me to lose some weight before the surgery - he put it at about 20-25 pounds, because i weighed more than 500, and the load limit on the table was 500 - and we had to take into account the weight of the equipment [thank goodness i was unconscious - i'm glad i didn't know what they did!!!]
ok. so. in AUGUST 2001, i was hospitalized for 5 weeks, and then in a nursing home, learning to walk again. on admission, my oxygen saturation was in the 70s [and it should be 98-100 - this is a measure of how much oxygen is circulating in your bloodstream]. i couldn't stand, let alone walk, and they inserted a catheter and the fun started.
they found blood clots in my lung. and, despite the fact that i had a pulmonologist, no one -except the respiratory therapist who had to check on me because i was on oxygen - even thought that i had sleep apnea.
the therapist diagnosed it, and i was placed on a CPAP machine. BTW, i was on an 800 calorie diet, and GAINING every single day. i heard my doc and the dietician SCREAMING at each other - the doc believed i was cheating [NOT!] and the dietician wanted me to be on a diuretic.
the dietician eventually won - and i started losing. And went to the nursing home in a custom-built wheelchair [weighing about 490 or so]. and i was well-behaved there. i ate what they gave me, did physical therapy at least once a day. they couldn't weigh me because they didn't have a scale that went up that high. but, by the time i left 3 weeks later, there was more room for my butt in the chair, so i knew i'd lost SOMETHING.
So, about 3 weeks later, i was at the surgeon's office, for the evaluation. I'd lost about 80 pounds. i was SHOCKED. [ok - are you counting? this is about 80 pounds in 6-8 weeks!]. the doc was shocked.
i started asking around about WHY this happened. most docs said that i was exercising more and eating better. i countered with the fact that 2-3 roundtrips up and down the driveway DID NOT count as exercise, and i was eating no differently than before the hospitalization.
but the NEW pulmonologist - LOVE THAT MAN - said 'before the CPAP, you weren't getting any oxygen into your system. but now that you're on it, you finally have a metabolism!!!! '
so, i kept everything up, lost a few more pounds into January, and it ended up being a total of 97 pounds lost.
had nothing to do with diet and exercise, but with proper medical care. at least, that's what i think!!!!
Jiff :Hug: I never knew that!! Woman you are 1 tough cookie. . .Thank God for GOOD Docs!
08-06-2009, 06:09 PM
thank you, Kier! and you know some of them - Bertha. Kevin James. Marc Benton.
these folks saved me. oh. and that doc who fought with the dietician? she's not my doctor any more.
08-06-2009, 09:53 PM
WOW! I actually don't know what to say! Maybe I should get back on my CPAP! Haven't used it in years though. Though, every time my oxygen level has been checked at the doc's I have been fine. hmmm Ok, I probably don't need it then now that I am thinking about it.
KO I soooo have to agree with you!!
jiffypop: If things had kept going the way they were and the one doc didn't find the sleep apnea, you could have died! The weight on your lungs plus the low oxygen count! phew... I am so glad someone was paying attention!
What put you into the hospital for 5 weeks?
When I started gaining more then 20 pounds a month when I was eating a lot of salads and being tired all the time I was finally diagnosed with low thyroid! Once I was put on meds for it I started losing the weight! The low thyrois was keeping my metabolism down!
08-07-2009, 04:39 AM
Hi Needs2, I am curious why you stopped using your CPAP machine previously. My DH has sleep apnea. He never had low pulse ox before he was diagnosed, but it isn't necessarily low all the time. Sleep deprivation, apnea and micro-wakenings all can contribute to weight gain. The longer it goes untreated, the more the weight issues kick up. When my husband got his CPAP, he was like a completely different person. He had more energy (of course) and that gray pallor went away permanently. You might want to get re-evaluated for it.
Jiff, sorry you had such a rough time! I gained 35 lbs while I was in the hospital recovering from GBS. I freaked! The surgeon explained to me I was retaining huge amounts of fluid and I was peeing pink crystals into my Foley bag, lol. I hope your clotting issues have resolved!
08-07-2009, 08:23 AM
OH WOW Jiffy,
Brian's OSL is about 77%
he FINALLY is getting his CPAP on WEDNESDAY (6 days before his surgery)
I bet this man (who is about 440 now) drops weight like a fiend after surgery.
08-09-2009, 02:17 AM
original_serendipity: When I was living in CA I was diagnosed with the sleep apnea and I had severe asthma. I was put on the CPAP machine, at 75%, which I felt so energized and like I was high on oxygen! LOL I was on 3 different inhalers for my asthma and 2 med pills.
I moved to Ohio in 2001 and over the course of 3 years I was able to discontinue ALL my inhalers. Which I took myself off of after having to have a biopsy on my vocal cords. Of course my voice came back to normal after a month of taking myself off the inhalers but the calluses won't ever heal.
As for the CPAP machine I was finding I was needing it less and less. I haven't used it now for about 5 years. Every time the doc checks me he says I am fine. *shrugs* Go figure. I know that the climate here has some humidity in it and I feel that is what has helped my breathing a lot. Where I lived in CA, Sacramento, the air was sooooo dry! I still have asthma and I still feel it from time to time but haven't really needed any assistance for it except for the Singulair and Loratadine which seems to help. So I guess those are what I am on now to control my asthma. So much better then when I first moved here! LOL
Oh, I'm also on Prilosec for acid reflux. The surgeon that did the biopsy asked if I had it and I told him not that I know of. He felt that the acid reflux was the main cause of the callasus (sp) on my vocal cords. But the not being able to talk for over 4 months I feel was CAUSED by the inhalers. :(
As for sleep, I can only sleep 3 hours at a time due to my dropped bladder. That's another whole story in itself! LOL I need to lose some weight then I can have the surgery to staple it back where it belongs. That is my last option for it. I'm on a patch for it and without it, I would be having to go to the bathroom every 20 minutes! :(
So, I'm not sure the inhalers/CPAP machine would do me much good now. I can always talk to the doc when I see him again to see what he says. Can't hurt!
ladybugnessa: I hope the best for Brian! I know he will feel much more vitalized after being on the CPAP after only 1 night! I know I did! :) I felt very high and it was from all the oxygen I was finally getting!
08-09-2009, 02:19 AM
original_serendipity: I just realized how much weight you have lost on your scale! Congratulations! :)
I can't wait till I see myself at 299! LOL *I will finally be below 300!*
08-10-2009, 04:33 AM
Thanks! Sometimes I forget I've lost so much. I was down to 123 for a bit because I was sick and I can't seem to stop comparing where I am now to then. I looked like crap, I was exhausted, my heart was under massive strain. Everyone kept telling me I lost way too much weight.
Wow! That's great that your asthma is much better controlled. Did you know that fat cells put off a chimcal that increases asthmatic response? More fat in the cells=more asthma problems. Since I lost weight, I haven't had to take anything for asthma. I get a bit wheezy in the spring, but I can control it with atarax and xopenex. Sacramento is in a valley where there is A LOT of agricultural-caused pollution. Pesticides, burning the fields after harvest, petrochemicals and a snot-load of air pollution from traffic. No wonder you had such bad asthma!