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coco99
07-09-2009, 11:59 AM
Hi there
I just adopted a stray cat. Well she (kitty) showed up at my sisters. She couldnt keep her. She already has two inside kitties. And they didnt care for this one. And she cant have any outside animals where she lives. So said she was going to take her to the pound or a no kill shelter. Well I couldnt see her doing that. They kitty is pretty friendly and pretty.
Took her to the vet today. Vet thinks she is around 8 months old.
We are going to keep her in the house.
But she is starting to scratch at everything.
Hubby says to get her declawed. I am wondering if that is a good idea or not. She will be inside all the time. We live too close to the road to be let out.
I am also going to get her spayed.
So was just wondering if you all had any opionions on the declawing. Or is it something not to even consider.
Any input would be appericated. I know my spelling isnt the greatest. So please forgive me.
Hope everyone has a great day.
Thanks for any replys.
coco


Glory87
07-09-2009, 12:13 PM
I don't think declawing is a good idea. It's a lot more invasive than just cutting nails, it actually removes the first joint of each toe. Look at your hand, imagine cutting off the first joint of all your fingers. That's declawing.

Since their feet hurt, some declawed cats have troubles using the litterbox (the litter hurts) and may have more accidents. Declawed cats also may bite more since they no longer have any defense.

I trained my 2 kitties to scratch on a scratching post. I bought a tall post (4 feet) so they can really stretch out. I also have a little scratcher hanging on a closet door. I bought a flat scratcher (one of those cardboard things) but they aren't very interested in it.

So, I would walk up to the scratcher and scratch my nails on it. They would scratch too and I would praise them lavishly and give them each a fish flake (these Bonito flake things that my cats adore). Eventually, they would scratch on command, I would say "show mommy what a good kitty does" and they would run over and scratch the post and I would praise/give treats (they don't get any treats for using the little scratcher, but they still use it).

One of my cats developed a tummy issue and can't eat fish flakes anymore and he has started scratching on the top of the couch (where I have a towel since he sheds like a mofo). He started this at 2.5 years after being perfectly scratch trained for 2 years. I'm going to start reintroducing treats/praise for his proper scratching and see if I can re-direct his behavior.

My cats were VERY easy to train to scratch on their post and until Diego started acting up, NEVER scratched where they weren't supposed to. I would definitely recommend at least trying to see if they will scratch posts/pads before going the de-clawing route - it's so painful and kinda barbaric.

Spayed is a GREAT idea!

kiramira
07-09-2009, 12:14 PM
OH oh! Be ready for the onslaught! But not from me...

From my experience: I had adopted 2 cats. Both were declawed by their previous owners. Both were outdoor kitties when we got them, and didn't adapt to being indoor kitties. Both lived long, happy lives (I hope!) -- one died of cancer at 18ish, the other of cardiac issues at 17ish. Both were neutered/spayed and were in neighborhoods with multiple cats BUT off the main road.

We now have 4 cats, and chose not to declaw them. They are outdoor kitties, in multiple cat neighborhoods, off the main road.

My conclusions? The 4 cats did/do claw the furniture. We put scratching posts in front of the most clawed parts and they migrate to the posts instead of the furniture. We tried to do modify their behaviour but since we were both working, it wasn't so effective because you kind of have to be there ALL the time to be consistent and effective. We keep their claws trimmed, and have no trouble handling them to clip their claws to preserve the furniture.

The 2 cats that were declawed would still "claw" at the furniture, even though they didn't have claws! And they really, really didn't like having their front paws touched at all. Both of them.

My PERSONAL opinion is that I like the idea of leaving the kitty with his/her toes. Declawing is an amputation of the first toe joint of the kitty. Kind of like getting your fingernails removed by cutting off the top joint of your finger. The kitty will adapt to this, but I just didn't like the idea. And if a declawed kitty gets loose, they really don't have their front claws to use in self-defense (like, to climb a tree to get away from a dog, for example). And kitties DO get out, even if we don't want them to and do everything we can to keep them in. However, I know that my vet WILL declaw and for some owners who want indoor cats, this is a viable option and the cats will adapt. It just is something that I didn't want to do and something that I personally don't agree with.

I've also noticed that as our cats get older, their scratching behaviour has really decreased. At least, while we are around :lol:

Good luck with your decision.

Kira


nelie
07-09-2009, 12:17 PM
Declawing is a horrible idea. Get a spray bottle :) Scratching posts, toys, etc will help keep the kitties busy. There is even a cardboard thing you can buy and sprinkle cat nip in that the kitties with scratch against (available at your pet store). If you see the cat scratching, you can either use a can filled with coins and shake it or a spray bottle with water.

Please do not declaw.

coco99
07-09-2009, 12:22 PM
Thanks for the replies. Will show this to hubby. Maybe this will change his mind. But I think he is seeing my sister's furniture. Her two cats destored hers. She had no stuffing left in her furniture. She even had the scatching posts. Again Thanks.

stargzr
07-09-2009, 12:29 PM
I think it sounds like a good idea - as long as the kitty will NEVER go outside. Also, if I may make a suggestion, just get the front claws done and have the back ones trimmed. Growing up, we had a strictly indoor cat and my parents had her front claws removed. Since there was no chance of her getting outside it was fine. Also, to touch on what another poster said, she never had a thing about us touching her paws, no different than a cat with claws. She still paws at things, but no clawing the couches or my fingers.. hehe

marbear24
07-09-2009, 12:48 PM
I think it depends on your situation, and the cats.

We have two cats - both are declawed but the never leave the house (front paws only). One, when he was a kitten, fancied waking my husband up by grabbing his eyelids with his claws and lifting them up. I'm not sure how the kitten didn't get his eyes - but I wasn't taking the chance on it any longer than I had to.

nelie
07-09-2009, 12:52 PM
I will also say there is a lot of good info out there on why not to declaw. I personally view it as inhumane.

here is a website that talks about it:
http://www.goodcatswearblack.com/declawing/about_declawing.htm

# Published 2/1/03 on CourierPostOnline.com, "Eighty percent of the cats that are surrendered that are declawed are euthanized because they have a behavioral problem…. Declawed cats frequently become biters and also stop using litter boxes… One or the other…,” said William Lombardi shelter director, Gloucester County, New Jersey.
# A study of 163 cats that underwent onychectomy (declawing), published in the Jul/Aug 1994 Journal of Veterinary Surgery, showed that 50% suffered from immediate postoperative complications such as pain, hemorrhage, and lameness; and long-term complications, including prolonged lameness, were found in nearly 20% of the 121 cats who were followed up on in the study.
# In a study published in the January, 2001 JAVMA, 33% of 39 cats that underwent onychectomy developed "at least" one behavior problem immediately after surgery, with the most common problems being litter box problems and biting.
# In a recent study published October, 2001, JAVMA by Dr. Gary J. Patronek, VMD, PhD., “…declawed cats were at an increased risk of relinquishment.”
# A recent national survey of shelters from the Caddo Parrish Forgotten Felines and Friends indicates that approximately 70% of cats turned in to shelters for behavioral problems are declawed.
# From the Summer 2002 issue of PETA’s Animal Times: “A survey by a Delaware animal shelter showed that more than 75% of the cats turned in for avoiding their litter boxes had been declawed.” [emphasis added]
# In my own three-year experience, 95% of calls about declawed cats related to litter box problems, while only 46% of clawed cats had such problems—and most of those were older cats with physical ailments. Of my calls, only declawed cats have cost their owners security deposits, leather sofas and floorboards. And it’s mostly declawed cats that have been prescribed pain killers, anti-depressants, tranquilizers and steroids. Two-thirds of my calls are about litter box problems. In 90% of those cases, the cat is declawed, sick or old. In 7 years, only 3 people have called about a “scratching-the-sofa problem” - yet countless of “healthy” declawed cats have peed on sofas.

If you must have a declawed cat, then I say adopt one who is already declawed.

cagirlygirl
07-09-2009, 01:07 PM
I've heard good things about these little vinyl caps for kitty nails:
http://www.softpaws.com/

Might be worth checking out - way less expensive and painful than declawing and kinda cute, too!

Tai
07-09-2009, 01:25 PM
This is very helpful information! I'm thinking of adopting a kitty and see that attitudes have really changed since I last had a cat. I adopted my cat from another family that had already declawed him on his front paws. He was a great cat and I was very lucky that he had no behavior problems. This was a very long time ago and I think declawing must have been considered more acceptable then.

Now I think I would definitely try the scratching posts and positive reinforcement idea. I also wonder if properly taught, would it be possible to learn how to trim the claws at home? I would never take any chances on traumatizing or accidently injuring the cat though.

Congratulations on adopting your new cat!

Glory87
07-09-2009, 01:40 PM
I trim my cats claws and it's no problem at all. Diego doesn't mind at all, he just sits there while I trim them.Serafina doesn't like it, sometimes I have to burrito her in a towel while I do it. Whenever I hold them, I play with their feet a lot, pushing their pads to extend their claws so they are used to it (even when I'm not planning on trimming them).

It's pretty easy to do - just press the pad so the claws extend. It's best to do it in bright light. When the claw is extended, you can see which part is "living" it is pink, you don't want to cut the living part (it will bleed) so just trim the nail bit. In bright light, it's very easy to see. You can always just trim the tips until you feel more confident.

Serafina has very thin, sharp claws that curve, so I just cut the curved bit. Diego has thick, strong, straighter claws, so it's a bit more of a challenge, but not difficult at all.

I also bought a special kitty nail trimmer from the pet store, it was about 7 bucks. It's more curved than a people nail trimmer and easy to use.

Play with your kitty's feet and see how receptive she is to having her claws extended. If she'll let you extend them and hold them out a few seconds, she's probably going to be okay with trimming. You can also wrap her in a towel like i do Sarafina, I just burrito her up and pull out the paw I'm working on. She's a big drama queen about everything though!

Praise and treats when you're finished!

nelie
07-09-2009, 01:42 PM
Nail trimming is very easy. I have 1 very spirited cat and another one that really doesn't want to be 'messed' with. I can trim both their nails with regular toe nail clippers.

Best thing is to hold kitty in your lap and grab a paw. Squeeze the paw a bit so that the nail gets exposed. Looking at the nail, you will see a clear part and then a pink part in the clear nail. The pink part is the quick and you don't want to touch that. Anyway, clip the nails so you are just cutting off the clear part.

IF your cat fights, won't sit still, etc. Swaddle the cat in a towel and then pull one paw out of the towel at a time. We initially started trimming our cats nails with them wrapped in a towel but eventually progressed so that we could do it without a towel.

You will also need the front nails more frequently than the back nails.

bandit2
07-09-2009, 01:59 PM
Hi there - lots of different opinions here. But from me, I have always had cats and none were ever declawed, I just think it is a mean unnatural thing to do. Declawed cats of friends I found to be unfriendly, afraid of everything and very hissy/nasty but that is there only defence once declawed. As far as scratching, they get over that and it has never been an issue with mine. My cat now likes to scratch his niles on brick fireplace, which doesn't hurt anything. And you can buy pieces of carpet and make your own post.

I really think declawing is truly awful and I can't imagine doing that to any animal & I would think they would never trust anyone human again after going through that.

Think hard and long about this - good luck.

beerab
07-09-2009, 02:16 PM
Soft Paws are what my friend uses for her kitty:

http://www.softpaws.com/

I think it's awesome- since your cat is young it'll probably be easier on her- but I love the colors! My friend's cat gets blue- you just put it on when one falls off you just put on another one- I believe they last about two weeks before falling off. :) She may chew on them at first but she'll get used to them- give her treats to keep her mind off the nails :)

kiramira
07-09-2009, 02:20 PM
My four cats get pedis all the time, to keep the sharp hooks off. No need to take them in to get it done.

We haven't tried the SoftPaws because ours go outside, but I think I'd give it a shot.

Oh, and despite the 4 cats with claws, we have had our furniture in our living room the entire time and there is a bit of shredding on the sides, but nothing serious. And we've had cats with claws for 6 years now (our furniture is 10 years old, too!). I feel very fortunate.

Kira

Samantha100
07-09-2009, 02:35 PM
I have two wonderful, sweet pound kitties. When I first got them I tried Soft Paws and was very dissatisfied. They kept falling off and being chewed off. I choose to have my kitties front declawed and I can't see any difference in their behavior before or after surgery. My main concern is that they never get outside. I love my cats, but I also love my house, furniture, and carpet.

4myloves
07-09-2009, 02:42 PM
I will also say there is a lot of good info out there on why not to declaw. I personally view it as inhumane.

here is a website that talks about it:
http://www.goodcatswearblack.com/declawing/about_declawing.htm

# Published 2/1/03 on CourierPostOnline.com, "Eighty percent of the cats that are surrendered that are declawed are euthanized because they have a behavioral problem…. Declawed cats frequently become biters and also stop using litter boxes… One or the other…,” said William Lombardi shelter director, Gloucester County, New Jersey.
# A study of 163 cats that underwent onychectomy (declawing), published in the Jul/Aug 1994 Journal of Veterinary Surgery, showed that 50% suffered from immediate postoperative complications such as pain, hemorrhage, and lameness; and long-term complications, including prolonged lameness, were found in nearly 20% of the 121 cats who were followed up on in the study.
# In a study published in the January, 2001 JAVMA, 33% of 39 cats that underwent onychectomy developed "at least" one behavior problem immediately after surgery, with the most common problems being litter box problems and biting.
# In a recent study published October, 2001, JAVMA by Dr. Gary J. Patronek, VMD, PhD., “…declawed cats were at an increased risk of relinquishment.”
# A recent national survey of shelters from the Caddo Parrish Forgotten Felines and Friends indicates that approximately 70% of cats turned in to shelters for behavioral problems are declawed.
# From the Summer 2002 issue of PETA’s Animal Times: “A survey by a Delaware animal shelter showed that more than 75% of the cats turned in for avoiding their litter boxes had been declawed.” [emphasis added]
# In my own three-year experience, 95% of calls about declawed cats related to litter box problems, while only 46% of clawed cats had such problems—and most of those were older cats with physical ailments. Of my calls, only declawed cats have cost their owners security deposits, leather sofas and floorboards. And it’s mostly declawed cats that have been prescribed pain killers, anti-depressants, tranquilizers and steroids. Two-thirds of my calls are about litter box problems. In 90% of those cases, the cat is declawed, sick or old. In 7 years, only 3 people have called about a “scratching-the-sofa problem” - yet countless of “healthy” declawed cats have peed on sofas.

If you must have a declawed cat, then I say adopt one who is already declawed.


You have to consider, though, with some (quite a few) of these stats, possibly, that the reason is because people with CLAWED cats put them out and allow them to go feral.

nelie
07-09-2009, 02:52 PM
I don't think people with clawed cats necessarily let them go outside and just because they are outside doesn't mean they are feral. I have a kitty with feral tendencies and then another kitty that is no where near being feral. Both are clawed, 100% indoor cats.

I haven't had any scratching issues with my cats. They do scratch stuff a lot but its stuff they can scratch.

4myloves
07-09-2009, 04:56 PM
I'm talking just as far as those particular stats are concerned. People would be more apt to put a cat with "behavorial disorders" outside if it were clawed as opposed to declawed, I believe. Not necessarily allow it to become feral--unless they were moving, etc., but put it out permanantly.

JLF981
07-09-2009, 08:03 PM
I have two boys (cats). I had them declawed when they were kittens...the same time I had them fixed.

They have no issues with it. I only had their front paws done. They cannot do any damage with the back ones. Mine are inside cats but when they do go outside it is with my supervision so they don't get into anything their not supposed to.

They still mimic the scratching even through they don't have claws, but I just went to Petsmart and got double side tape and put where they would "scratch" and they stopped.

It hasn't negatively impacted them at all. My best recommendation would be to talk to you vet...ask them questions on how they do it...the pros and cons..the vet would know best.

kaplods
07-09-2009, 08:51 PM
I think saying the cat "has no issues with it, " is a bit like looking at a man with missing fingers and saying that by his behavior, because it doesn't seem to be any different than a man with all ten intact digits, that he has no issues with it. We don't know if the cat has issues with it.

Cats like humans will adjust to an injury or disability, even a severe one. People and animals often get along fine with one eye, but poking one out, isn't a great idea.

A human being without fingertips isn't going to act much differently than a person with all of their finger tips. They'll have much the same dexterity, and have as much pleasure out of life... so one could argue that they're not negatively impacted by the loss (but I wouldn't). At best I would say that while I've owned declawed cats, I don't know what the impact of the declawing has been, I can only guess.

Believe it or not, I'm not militant about cat declawing. I think that there are times when it may be the lesser of two evils, but I think that before a person has a cat declawed that they at least acknowledge that they are handicapping that cat for life. If other alternatives can be explored, it's at least worth considering. If it's possible that the cat could find a way out of the house, it would have no defense against other cats, birds of prey, racoons and other wildlife, and would be unable or severely handicapped in trying to feed itself. That needs to at least be considered (well I guess it doesn't need to be considered, but I would hope it would be).

And on the other hand, a cat can't express regret or trauma over neutering either, so I'm not saying it's never ok to make those decisions for your animal, but give it some serious thought as to the consequences to the animal.

A cat can't say "boy I sure do miss my claws," or "I'm traumatized because of early memories of declawing." At the very least an owner needs to know how dangerous it would be for a declawed cat to defend itself if it would find itself outside, and be willing to protect that cat for life.


My husband and I adopted our (consecutively owned) cats front declawed. We chose declawed cats because our apartment owner demanded it. Rather than being responsible for declawing, we chose to adopt an adult cat already declawed. I admit it's a cop-out, because we didn't have to make the difficult decision. Still, when we were looking at the cats available, there were so many cats that were reported as "strays" that had been declawed. Some of them half-starved by the time they were found, perhaps due to being unable to hunt because of the declawing. Some of them with ears bit off from altercations with other animals. It really hit home why declawing shouldn't be taken lightly.

Sadly, many apartment complexes won't accept cats that aren't declawed. My husband and I are moving, and in apartment hunting, argued with an apartment manager for 20 minutes over four foot declawing. He demanded that all cats be declawed on all four feet. We explained how damage to the property would be prevented by front-only declawing (which our shelter-adopted cats have always been), but he wouldn't budge. So we chose an apartment complex that doesn't have a four foot declaw policy.

I would agree that talking to your vet is the place to start. If you decide upon declawing make sure to ask about post-operative care (often they'll recommend an alternative, softer litter, like shredded paper for example, until healing is complete).

Sheila53
07-10-2009, 03:51 PM
My opinion is that I would never have a cat declawed (I've watched the procedure), but if the issue comes down to keeping a cat in a home or relinquishing it to a shelter, then I say declaw the cat. Of course, a declawed cat must be inside, but I believe all cats should be kept inside to avoid disease, predators (human and animal), cars and killing birds.

net knee
07-22-2009, 02:40 AM
I've heard good things about these little vinyl caps for kitty nails:
http://www.softpaws.com/

Might be worth checking out - way less expensive and painful than declawing and kinda cute, too!

I have used these once and they are a B*T*H to get on!! we had to wrap our cat in a towel and then her nails didn't shed like normal. I suggest getting a lot of scratching posts-cardboard and carpet and getting cat nip to put on them or cat nip spray- they love it- my cat scratched everything until i got the scratch pads and the kitty tree... now he scratches that and the other two who were declawed before we got them like it too! I got my previous cat declawed and neutered and he died 6 weeks later! I was so heartbroken! I blamed the declawing! IDK if that's what happened but I'll never do it again. AND my 2 that are declawed do bite harder!! Very hard! Before you declaw try using double sided tape where they scratch and you want them to stop! They hate the sticky feeling of the tape and will learn not to scratch there! The cat nip works wonders- the spray bottle idea does too! Kitty scratches where he's not suppose to- spritz him and away he goes! this also works with biting and aggressive behavior-- that's how we got our one cat to stop attacking us while we slept!
GOOD LUCK-- please try every effort before declawing!
:hug:

Windchime
07-22-2009, 09:58 AM
I have two cats. Both are around 14-15 years old. When they were younger, I got new furniture which they promptly shredded within a year or two. I found that putting on heavy denim slipcovers stopped them scratching the furniture. They took pretty well to a scratching post but also destroyed that eventually! Recently, I came across a thick, scratchy "welcome mat" and bought that for them to scratch on. They LOVE It, and gravitated to that instantly. It looks like braided rope on one side and very thick, short, coarse (almost brush-like) on the other side.

I really want to get new furniture but don't completely trust my old pals to not shred it again, even with the beloved new scratchy mat in the house. I don't have the heart to declaw them; I had it done to a different cat years ago, before I really understood what it was, and have always regretted it. I may just choose to live with slipcovers until these kitties are no longer with me!

TJFitnessDiva
07-22-2009, 10:12 AM
I trim my cat's claws....and they will only try to scratch something when they get too long to sharpen or get their nails to shed. Learn where the quick is on their nails so you don't go to high and hit it...it will hurt the cat and not to mention bleed a lot (a little cornstarch to the area stops it though).

Declawing is really unnecessary for a responsible pet owner. It sounds harsh but I am very against it. There are so many ways you can fix the problem with effort on your part...Kudos for you kaplods for adopting yours! I get a lot of requests to foster cats (I rehab wildlife) and most are declawed strays.

net knee
07-23-2009, 12:17 AM
I trim my cat's claws.....

I trim my cat (satan) claws... He doesn't mind a bit and he has clear nails so it's easy to see where not to cut!

aphimira
07-26-2009, 10:02 PM
I adopted a kitten and my husband and I had her declawed at a very early age. With the assumption that she would never go outside. She does venture outside to the porch with supervision. While we had no problems with her surgery. WE did baby her quite a bit when she came home and strictly llowed the vet's suggestions as we have a friend whose feline friend lost feeling in one of his paws.

Aclai4067
07-26-2009, 11:28 PM
I got my cat a rope scratching post (as opposed to the all-carpet ones) and he just naturally likes it better than anything else. I also trim his claws, which many cats will not allow you to do. My parents have 3 cats, none of whom care for the scratching post at all. They've had some luck with putting double-sided tape on the couch, but if the tape is removed the cats go back to scratching. What has worked best for them was getting one of those corrugated cardboard scratching boxes with catnip. All of the cats love it!

Miss Mallee
07-30-2009, 05:06 PM
My first cat we had declawed and we don't ever considerate now. He had kitten leukemia, so he was only a year old and passed away. We had him completely declawed and, yes, he relied on his teeth. My friend has an outdoor cat who is completely declawed and he also uses his teeth; though he is not a lap cat. He is quite...agressive and NEVER wants to be pet. We've never encountered a cat like this. I currently have 4 cats; 2 outdoor and 2 indoor. They do like to claw the couches. I suggest 1) get a squirt gun and keep it filled and close at all times, 2) double sided tap. Place it on any where he claws and ours just automatically stopped because they kept getting stuck. Ours stopped for a very long time, even after the tape came off. Now, our furniture isn't horrible, but we did have to use some iron on patches to one. Just catch them in the act either with the squirt gun, or grab them, tell them no, and cuddle. One of our cats just wants the attention and my other cat (as gutsy as he is) hates the squirt gun. But yes, definitely get a scratching post of some kind and clip they're nails regularly. Lastly, it depends on the cat and what he adapts to. But keep in mind, if your cat got outdoors and he was an indoor cat, How would he defend himself against another animal if he was declawed? A very unfair disadvantage. It'd be like having your fingernails removed! How would you open, say a can of soda, or grip anything?

86tolose
08-01-2009, 08:43 PM
I had my cat declawed because when she was a kitten she would scratch the crap out of me constantly. She was a wild cat, her mom died and she was left alone in the woods behind my house so I caught her and gave her a home. She did not mean to scratch me but I was tired of walking around looking like that and I did not want to get rid of her.

She still had back claws but she was never allowed to run outside alone because I was afraid she could not defend herself as well. We had a chain link fence that she could get over so I use to put her in a dog body harness with along leash then attached it to a clothes line that went the length of the yard. She was able to run around the yard and play but could not jump the fence. People probably thought I was nuts but I loved my wildcat!

Iconised Ghost
08-04-2009, 03:03 AM
I am in general against declawing- its pretty unnecessary in most cases in my opinion. I would at least give training your cat not to scratch a really, really good shot before even considering it. I got a kitten in December last year, and there are 2 things that she scratches in the house- her scratching post and an old couch in my sister's room. I think she started scratching the couch because thats the room she is in the most- so shes kinda marking it as hers. It was easy to train her not to do it to anything else- have a scratching post (or whatever you want them to scratch) in a place where everyone can see it- ours is in our lounge next to the tv, apparently cats like it when the thing they scratch can be easily seen, im not sure why, i assume its something to do with marking the area as kitty's and making sure all other animals/kitties know it. Reward them when they scratch the post (i cooed at her and stroked her and told her how gorgeous and wonderful she was and played with her when she was done), and if my cat started scratching other furniture then i simply said "NO" loudly and clapped my hands so she stopped and ran off, or do that and put her paws on the scratching post (i didnt run her paws on the post since i have read thats not very pleasant for cats). My cat learnt pretty quick that (a) scratching the furniture causes loud scary noises, and (b) scratching the post gets lots of praise and love and attention.

Personally, what i also think is if you dont want your furniture scratched, dont get a cat :) It takes a while to learn, I was lucky because i was home all the time for her first few months of life so i could catch her almost every incidence of scratching things she shouldnt and correct that behaviour. If you arent going to be able to do that and dont want to risk your furniture being scratched, dont get a cat basically. Just my opinion, but scratchs and shredding things is part of the joy of being a cat owner :lol:

But i am biased, my cat is a polydactyl, and has 2-3 extra toes AND claws on each foot :D