100 lb. Club - Gaining a pound or more?




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MugCanDoIt
06-23-2009, 12:24 PM
Ok Im kind of confused. They say it takes 3500 EXTRA calories on top of what your body burns to actually gain a pound. So my question is: When the occasional bing happens (like last night:(:() why does the scale go up when I know I havent eaten 3500 EXTRA calories? It also takes me like a week or more for my weight to go back down to the before binge weight.

WHY???!!!!:devil:


Slashnl
06-23-2009, 12:31 PM
Depending on what you had, could it be water weight you're retaining? I don't know... just a thought.

rochemist
06-23-2009, 12:33 PM
Salt, sugar, and all kinds of badness.

That's why I currently list 209 and I am waiting for the average at the end of the week. I have been since coming back from vacation
207.6
205.8
and this morning 206.0

I don't lose 3 lbs a week, its just recovery and eating cleanly again. So don't sweat the small stuff ;) You know its just a scale trick. The truth is always in how we feel and how our clothes fit. I am feeling fantastic since my exercise is back on track and my food is being cleaned up.


CatR
06-23-2009, 12:34 PM
The extra food that is being processed will add weight until it is eliminated. Extra salt and carbs (I assume you didn't binge on grilled chicken breast:D) will increase the amount of retained water.

chickiegirl
06-23-2009, 12:38 PM
I think when it's that close to the binge, the actual weight of the food in your body counts -- you have pooped anything out yet or fully processed it. And chances are there's salt making you retain water and other things throwing your system out of whack.

You know you didn't eat 3,500 cals but it'll probably take a day or two show up.

At the risk of TMI, I ate a whole bunch of McDs around 11:30 p.m. last night and noticed more than a one pound difference between before and after visiting the loo this morning.

Get the water in Mug, try and clear some of it out.

Smiling_Sara
06-23-2009, 12:39 PM
Salt perhaps? Makes you bloat. After a salty meal the scale can go up 3 pounds at times, even thought I KNOW I didn't even consume 3500 in the said meal, let alone the whole day. Don't fret, drink water, pee it out.

JayEll
06-23-2009, 12:44 PM
1. Water retention
2. Weight of food
3. Water retention
4. Some fat gain, depending how far over your daily burn you went.
5. Water retention.

Jay

bindersbee
06-23-2009, 12:50 PM
Just an observation but do you all notice we never ask 'why' when the scale drops by a pound when we know our efforts weren't sufficient to justify the drop? The reasons are, of course, the same reason as a gain I just thought it was kind of funny. I tend to freak out over the sudden ups but never question the sudden downs.

It usually takes a little time for things to adjust when there's been a big change up or down in intake.

MugCanDoIt
06-23-2009, 12:52 PM
I hate water weight! Its evil and I hate it! Frustrating stupid idiotic dumb water weight!

I think I need to just calm down, put the scale up in the top of the closet for a week, and just keep on keepin on. Why are we so set on seeing scale results quickly? I must stop this! Im stressing myself for no reason, and Ive been doing wonderfully, just two binges in the month of June so far. Hopefully that will be the last one for a long time to come. I can do it! Sigh.............

MugCanDoIt
06-23-2009, 12:54 PM
Plus........I have to remind myself, just because Ive been losing weight for six months now and doing the healthy lifestyle for six months now, doesnt mean I am perfect and without faults. Ive been binging on food for over 17 yrs now and I cant expect to be perfect after only six months. I WILL continue to work on the binging aspect of my problem with food and Imust just keep moving forward and dont look back. Self pep talk here.......

chickiegirl
06-23-2009, 12:58 PM
I have to remind myself, just because Ive been losing weight for six months now and doing the healthy lifestyle for six months now, doesnt mean I am perfect and without faults. Ive been binging on food for over 17 yrs now and I cant expect to be perfect after only six months. I WILL continue to work on the binging aspect of my problem with food and Imust just keep moving forward and dont look back.

YES!! Bang on, Mug. Keep truckin'

JulieJ08
06-23-2009, 01:59 PM
1 cup of water weighs about half a pound.

CLCSC145
06-23-2009, 02:01 PM
Just an observation but do you all notice we never ask 'why' when the scale drops by a pound when we know our efforts weren't sufficient to justify the drop? The reasons are, of course, the same reason as a gain I just thought it was kind of funny.

That's the wisest thing I've read all day!

Arctic Mama
06-23-2009, 02:04 PM
Yes PLEASE don't beat yourself up over a little and likely temporary gain. Keep doing what you know is healthy and works and the rest will take care of itself.

kaplods
06-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Water weight doesn't have to be evil. I don't hate it nearly as much as I did, when I was younger.

I love chinese food, but would avoid even low-cal option out of fear of the dreaded water weight, but I realized that it's fat I need to lose the most. A little water here and there isn't making or breaking my weight loss.

The "exact" number on the scale isn't as important either. It's not my daily weight that is critical, it's the long-term progress.

Part of the stress of weight loss is making the number all-important. If the scale is up it's a day to mourn, and if it's down it's a day to rejoice. Not necessarily.

synger
06-23-2009, 02:30 PM
The scale lies (http://primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/library/weight/scale.htm). It's as simple as that. It doesn't measure fat, and that's what we're trying to lose. The scale does not measure FAT.

Remember that we're 60% water. (anyone else remember the Star Trek:NG episode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Soil) where they were confronted by the mineral-based aliens who called humans "ugly bags of mostly water"? It's pretty accurate.) The water in our bodies helps regulate our heat and cooling, keeps our blood pressure level, and many other vital jobs. We lose it through urine, sweat, and every breath we take. It's vital that it be maintained.

It's much easier and less stressful to look at your weight from week to week (or month to month!) rather than day to day. It really gives a better overall picture of how much FAT you are losing.

MugCanDoIt
06-25-2009, 10:17 AM
Ive dropped my calories to 1500. Hopefully that number will let me see more of a steady drop soon. Im gonna aim at weighing once a week. Thats my new goal. If I can make myself stay away from the darn scale!

Samantha100
06-25-2009, 10:56 AM
A kilocalorie (1 "food" calorie) is just a measure of energy. It is the amount of energy needed to raise 1 kg of water, one degree C. Scientists measure how many kilocalories are in a substance by actually burning it to heat water and measure exactly the difference in the temperature of water. When you burn pure fat, it will release about 8 kilocalories/gram. Since there are 453 grams in one pound, you will arrive at 3654 kilocalories (food calories). Proteins and carbohydrates do not contain the same amount of kilocalories as fat.

Your body cannot burn fat! It's not possible. We burn glucose as long as we have it, and then switch to glycogen (animal carbohydrate) through oxidation. Your body has to convert storied fat into glycogen in order to metabolize it. Normally, you keep about 15 minutes worth of glucose around for "quick energy" (glycolysis) and then your body has to switch to burning glycogen. The whole idea behind aerobic exercise is to burn through the glucose and force your body to be forced to use storied glycogen in our cells. The body will then be forced to convert our fat into glycogen for next time we need it. These metabolic processes will become more efficient as we consistently force our bodies to use more energy.

You would need to study molecular biology to begin to comprehend the complexities of animal metabolism. When doctors and nutritionists throw around numbers like "one pound is 3500 calories", they are drastically over simplifying what is actually happening in our bodies. So when we attempt to calculate that we've reduced our caloric intake by 3500 calories and wonder why we didn't instantly lose a pound, we are not considering our entire metabolic system.

Lastly, we are not made of just fat. Our bodies are composed of protein, fat, fluids, urine, feces, blood, and many other components. All of these can greatly vary day-to-day depending on our exercise, diet, sodium/potassium intake, TOM, and some of the prescriptions we may be taking. When your are trying to lose weight, it is wise to think long term. That's why weighting every hour or every day is not going to give you anything other than a short term indicator. Some better measurement would include: How are your clothes fitting? Is your body changing to smaller sizes? Is your blood pressure dropping? Are your cholesterol and triglyceride levels going down? Do you feel better? Do you have more enery? These are not a easy or convientent to measure as weight, so we step on the scale instead. There isn't anything wrong with the scale, but lets not lose sight of the big picture.