LA Weight Loss - Beck Diet For Life/Solution – June 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach

06-01-2009, 06:52 AM
Welcome to the discussion group, support group, diet coach group, diet buddy group relating to the two books by Dr. Judith S. Beck:The Complete Beck Diet for Life ( the first bookThe Beck DIET solution: train your brain to think like a thin person. (

The Beck Diet Solution is a psychological program, not a food plan. It provides a step-by-step program to learn specific techniques to stay on our diet, lose weight, and maintain our weight loss for life. The program is based on Dr. Beck's clinical research in Cognitive Therapy (CT).

The Complete Beck Diet for Life expands the earlier work and includes a food plan with suggested menus. From the cover:With The Complete Beck Diet for Life you'll discover the 5 stages of successful deiting and maintenance. You'll learn how to motivate yourself, give yourself credit for every change you make, create time and energy for dieting, and handle hunger and cravings. Dr. Beck easues you into changing one step at a time. You'll master one task before monving on to the next. And you'll learn tehcniques to deal with challenging situations, such as sticking with ou plan at celebrations and dealing with "food pushers." With Dr. Beck's skills, you'll acheive a lifetime of healthful eating and lifelong motivation.

This is a place to discuss the Beck strategies and our daily efforts, to receive and provide support, and, for some of us, is where we serve as on-line diet buddy (coach) to each other.

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06-01-2009, 07:00 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Went shopping again today and bought a camera for our vacation this summer; CREDIT moi just for buying something since I sooo HATE shopping.

Food was on plan, especially since dinner was leftover 15-bean soup - one of our favorites, with, ahem again, salad constructed with my lettuce; CREDIT moi. Since DW is a gardener and the sun was shining, I consider myself lucky to get dinner at all, LOL. My walk was brief, but I wore my new boots purchased yesterday to test them out. Oh Well for brief.

maryblu - Yay for gardening 'til you drop. Kudos for all that exercise; as measured by sore muscles, gardening is one good exercise.

Anne (wndranne) - Welcome home. Welcome wiped presuming that means you 'athloned or climbed the mountains all day. Welcome good nights sleep.

Tera (twilit tera) - Ouch for the lingering cold; sounds like you took care of it with a day of rest.

Yay for a low (1) average pain day; neat that seems to be the new norm.

ChinaMaine - Ouch for the dead laptop; hope the contents of the hard drive can be salvaged. Around here there's a convenient Geek Squad (or similar) at Staples and Best Buy with modest walk in pricing. Good luck in its recovery.

And Ouch for tired and feeling blech. Perhaps the Geek Squad can help you recover while they're at it, LOL.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for planning to slow down when eating. Hope the dinner went well.

Readers - Before You Move On

Master all Stage 1 skills before you move on to Stage 2. If you don't, I predict you will have a hard time - sooner or later - sticking to the Think Thin Initial Eating Plan. Make sure you check off all skills for seven consecutive days before moving on - it doesn't matter how long it takes. And be sure to keep increasing exercise.
. . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 105

06-01-2009, 10:20 AM
Good Morning

Bill~ yah for "your" lettuce!! Yah for walking in your new boots, and a new camera!!

Last week was horrible, the weekend even worse. I dont know what happened, but I was unbearably tired all week. Not a good thing when you have 100's of t-shirts to get out the door! I did it, with only one mistake! Of course the woman pitched a hissy fit over the missing 3 t-shirts. Which I will deliver today (with plenty of time to spare before her event) Oh well!

Yesterday I was a vendor at a small market. On the way in, I stepped in a big dip in the floor and went crashing down on my side. Calf, and shoulder are nicely bruised and now my neck is messed up. Enough for me to go see a chiropractor about it. Which is something I really dislike doing!! (kind of the same category as a dentist for me)

Ok....Im done with all my complaints :lol:

I've got all my ducks back in a row, and I managed that fairly quickly after a high stress week. So Im going to take HUGE Kudos for that :D

This week is just as busy, but with different things. Lets see if I can keep it together this week.

Have a great day everyone!

Greenville Beth
06-01-2009, 12:03 PM
Today's weight: down .4 lb First goal: 231.0

I was going to post this last night, but by the time I finished painting I was just too tired and went to bed.

Yesterday was Day 10 - Set a realistic goal. I had looked at this chapter before, so I had already set a 5 lb goal. I think, I will go ahead and just do 5 lbs at a time. It's a nice number as it isn't so large, like say 10 lbs, that it won't take too long to get to....hopefully! It will give me many celebrations along the way.

For part of my exercise, I am trying to do 10,000 steps a day. I did get 10,300 in yesterday. A good part of that was mowing my folks yard. I was really surprised to see how many steps I take in my regular walking around day. I worry about getting my exercise in. I don't want to let myself down.

I've really been doing well with this mindfull eating. Credit me. I have been counting to 30 between bites. Also, this was a major credit for me, last night after I finished my dinner, I was still hungry and wanted to continue to eat. I grabbed a 100 calorie bag of popcorn and was planning to eat it. Then, I put it down and said no. If I'm still hungry in an hour, I'll eat it. I went and did some more painting and never did eat the popcorn. Super credit!

RobinW - Credit for getting all those shirts done and dealing with a cranky customer. :) Sorry to hear about your fall. Hopefully, you will feel better soon.

Bill - Yeah for a vacation. Credit for taking time for yourself and with your family. There's nothing better than fresh lettuce out of a garden. Credit for picking a wife that likes to garden! :D

All best,


06-01-2009, 07:40 PM
Hi coaches:kickcan:

I've been busy and yet stalled at the same time. This graduation business just never ends. BUT we graduate this month so it will end. On the 26th. 25 more days. Of course, since it's June 1st, I woke up thinking "if I did that diet ______ I could still lose like 15 lbs." Sad though that it doesn't even rev me up to lose 15 lbs. I'm feeling very depressed when I think about my weight and my body and my big tummy. I can't get myself to move. It's like the part of me that wants to is equal, and maybe right now a little less, than the part of me that really doesn't want to do a thing. I've decided that the fake pressure I've applied to myself with regards to moving is just one too many things to cope with. I am reverting to my original summer plans which comprise of a holiday to Nova Scotia and a foray to all the areas that appeal to me as potential places I'd want to move to. It's too bad, but in this case I am a look before you leap person. I want to know where I am going and why before I go there. I'm also wondering if it isn't prudent for me to remain here, in Ottawa, at least until the fall is overwiyh as I am signed up with the city to teach continuing education art classes. if I can do that I have a very portable skill to take with me wherever I go. I am all set to test this out --should I even be thinking of leaving right now because our rent is $51 more?

Well the question is moot as I can't cope with it. I've just sort of tuned out completely. I'm not making anything and I'm not cleaning anything and I'm actually literally sitting still. Except when I have to go out and that's everyday this week. But lest I seem depressed I'm not. I'm more overwhelmed with everything. I'm working hard trying to get the art in the park show off the ground. This is taking a lot of blog effort and a lot of organizational skill
( ( in case you want to check it out).

Anyway, that's about it for now. I see the wagon stopping at my door but I am waving it on. That first step to climb up onto the wagon seems awfully steep to me right now.

I'm off to walk over to the mall to get my buspass for this month. I'll take an extra walk around the mall for good measure. Thinking of you guys and how well you are doing. Bye for now.

twilit tera
06-01-2009, 08:19 PM
WI: steady
Pain: 0/1/3
Activity: 1
Sinuses: still messy.

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, rest :yay:, checking to see if monthly cycle was causing slight gain instead of freaking out :yay:

Pain level is low enough and I'm still contagious enough to postpone Appt. with C. Gave a call and left a voice message, but no response yet.

I'm less than a month away from moving!!! :woohoo:

NSV: my wedding ring is loose. This is after moving it to a smaller finger so I wouldn't lose it. I am afraid that resizing it is a bit complicated, as the ring is a twist of silver and gold, which is why I'm waiting until it looks like I've lost all I'm likely to, and have been maintaining for at least six months before resizing it. Until then I will just keep moving it to a smaller finger each time it's in danger of slipping off.

Don't want to mess any of that up so I will be on plan (for the rest of) today!

Margaret: I too hope dinner went well.

ChinaMaine: My sympathies for the (temporary :crossed:) loss of your computer! Hope you feel better!

Anne: Welcome home!!

Bill: :drool: bean soup! Good idea!

Robin: Way to go on the busy week. I have sympathy for the hissy fit customer. People who go bolistic over small delays and inconveniences tend to have a serious need to feel "in control". Being out of control over any circumstance scares or angers them. And of course, nobody's in control of EVERYTHING, so the type tends to make themselves more miserable than anyone else. Oh, well.

Let me know how the chiropractor goes. (I had no idea I was starting a trend!)

Beth: General Kudos for all your progress but BIG stinkin :woo: for giving yourself time to feel full before deciding whether or not to eat the popcorn!

onebyone: :hug:

06-01-2009, 10:04 PM
Last night I was beyond exhausted after a full day in the sun with kiddos at a picnic playing volleyball, frisbee, bike riding, etc. Having a really rough day/night. This is all I've got right now. Better than nothing. I'm going to bed.

06-01-2009, 11:55 PM
Tera~ I walked into the chiro office (2 shops over from us) and the smell of mold and mildew turned me right off. But the receptionist had her window open already. So I politely got the info and told her Id go back and check my schedule. Not a chance I'll go back in there lol

Greenville Beth
06-02-2009, 12:54 AM
Day 11 - Differentiate Between Hunger, Desire, and Cravings

I haven't done the actual exercise for this chapter yet. I am going to do it on Saturday. I have been spending time "listening" to my stomach, however. I'm finding, I am much fuller longer than I used to think. Who knows, this stuff might actually be working! Scary. Credit me. I was on plan today as well. Credit!

I got all my paintings done and to the gallery today. Credit. I'm pretty happy with the outcome. Hopefully, a few will sell.

I start my new job tomorrow. Yikes. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I haven't had a "real" job in nine years. Most of that time, I've worked for myself, gone to school full-time, and / or taugh college part-time.

I've left this post to a bit too late in the evening and need to run to bed. Starting tomorrow, I will post earlier in the evening. I'm sorry for no personals tonight. I'll catch up tomorrow.

All best,


06-02-2009, 01:54 AM
Coaches/Buddies Today's little surprise: Hand, Foot & Mouth disease. Generally a nuisance thing. DS is home for a couple days.

Eating was not bad, but could have been better. I think I need to go back to planning. Soon. Great run this morning before day care called. I was halfway to the kennel to pick up the dog, and had to turn around. Poor dog. DH got him this afternoon.


06-02-2009, 03:29 AM
Monday I scrambled all day to get my laptop ready to send off for repair by a member of my company’s crack IT team (AKA Lizzie). It needs a new hard drive, the current one was eeking by well enough that after a 15 hour reboot process (started Noon on Sunday) I was able to move a few critical files off my external hard drive. My project managers have arranged a loaner that will arrive Tuesday AM so I can get *some* work done while waiting for my refurbished machine back on Thursday.

Monday was my hubbie’s last official day at work. We both were fighting depression all weekend, but today we really had a hard time keeping it at bay. They offered him an extra 4 days (surprise, surprise – too much work for the folks left) and he took the offer. We planned to take a walk after work and then sit on the porch to enjoy the sunny evening before dinner. But his boss invited him to a meeting that lasted until 7 PM – most of the time spent discussing the work everyone else on the team will be doing after DH is gone. We missed our outside time and put us into the funk we were trying to avoid. But today will be a new day.

WI – 182 lbs., not too bad considering everything. Exercise – offplan; I just didn’t feel up to it this AM. I started yoga and just felt sad. So I practiced piano instead, which lifted my spirits.

Food – op. Didn’t actually make a plan, but had one going mentally. Did read my cards.

Bill I envy that you hate shopping, but kudos for facing it down. Your homegrown lettuce sounds so tasty! As does the bean soup. Credit for good healthy food and a walk!

Robin Sorry last week was so bad – and for the terrible fall. Yikes for the chiro. There must be better ones nearby! Credit for getting ‘ your ducks back in a row

Beth Credit for 10K steps per day and eating mindfully! I’ve been lurking more than posting the last 2 weeks, but I’ve been really impressed with your dedication. :bravo: Yeah, I rely on the lessons on hunger almost every day. I hope you find them as useful!

one by one Ouch for being overwhelmed. :hug: But credit for the walk to the mall, and the extra walk around it for good measure…

Tera nice pain numbers, but sorry you are still contagious. Credit for all the good effort. That’s a nice NSV. :D

Kim Quite a busy day – but kudos for keeping busy with your kids. Hope tomorrow is better!

Anne Kudos for the good run. Hope DS feels better.

I’m back to bed – and today will be a better day!

06-02-2009, 07:07 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did my gym including four (4) pull ups for the first time ever; CREDIT moi.

Faced an array of food at a meeting/potluck last night. Desserts are usually easy for me to skip in their entirety. I brought a stack of whole peaches in addition to the sushi just so folks would have a choice. Well, one smart person chopped up a peach and added it to vanilla ice cream; I was smitten. Had to have it. Bad news - it was soooooooooo good. Reminded me of making home made ice cream as a kid when we always added peaches. Now I'll have to work to keep that out of my life. Oh Well.

onebyone - Kudos for chiseling out small steps to take when overwhelming is such a looming block. You've got more major life decisions on your plate than most adults have to face at one moment. Sending you supportive thoughts to keep nibbling at the edges; we're all right here to support you. The wagon will be there when you're ready.

Robin (RobinW) - Yes indeed, HUGE Kudos for "all my ducks back in a row" after your busy day and weekend. And Kudos for equanimity in the face of a "hissy fit." I find that when someone overreacts to my error, I feel less bad - their bad behavior absolves me a little, LOL.

Ouch for that fall; sounds painful. Sending supportive thoughts for finding a non-mildewed chiropractor to work it with you.

Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for the diseases that the little ones collect. Kudos for the good morning run.

Tera (twilit tera) - Yay for yet another low (1) pain day; what a difference from just a month ago.

Congrats on the loose ring. Smart move to wait on the resizing. Have you tried one of the various types of "ring size adjusters" made for rings that are too large. (I searched Amazon with that phrase and got a list of gizmos.)

ChinaMaine - Kudos for fighting the depression from your DH's job loss. Sounds smart that you plan positive time to help with that.

And Kudos for patiently waiting out a 15 hour!!!! reboot to salvage the critical files on your hard disk. Hope your old workhorse makes it back on Thursday.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Yay for a full day in the sun with the kids. Ouch for being exhausted, but Kudos for posting anyway.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Kudos for setting a realistic five pound goal. And Kudos for getting 10300 steps and your paintings done in the same day. (You walk while painting or sumptin' ? LOL)

Yay for "...this stuff might actually be working!" Love that feeling that this simplistic magic stuff has the impact that I want.

Good luck at your "real" job. It sounds pretty exciting, as well as potentially very busy.

Readers - Before You Move On
. . .
You're ready to move on to Stage 2 once you've not only checked off each skill for seven consecutive days, but you also firmly believe that:
• If I’m hungry or craving or just want to eat for emotional reasons, it’s no big deal. These aren’t emergencies. I know what to do to resist. I can wait until my next scheduled meal or snack.
. . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 105

06-02-2009, 10:55 AM
Good Morning

Bill~ lol, yes her hissy fit did make me feel better about my little mistake. I was very good at turning her mountainish issue into a blip :D Im sure in her world this was a major issue, I just hope she keeps it to herself, or tells everyone how quickly we "fixed" it. :rolleyes:

Big Honkin' Kudos for 4 pullups!! Im jealous!

I had to laugh at your peaches and icecream....sometimes it's just ok. :)

ChinaMaine~ Im sorry to hear about dh's job :( Good for you tho for trying to work thru it. Kudos to your hubby too for staying at a meeting past 5pm on his last day. I dont think I would have bothered...but I tend to be spiteful about things like that.

Anne~ :wave:

Beth~ Kudos for getting in over 10,000 steps!! :cb: Some days I have trouble getting in over 6,000! Its neat tho to see how many steps we actually do when shopping, gardening, and house cleaning. It always surprises me.

Tera~ Sounds like you are doing awesome!! Kudos for rings that are too big!
...I go to the chiro today at 12:30....called one from one of my networking groups.

onebyone~ :hug:

Well, my neck hurts so bad I called one of the chiro's from my networking meetings. She called this morning and set me up for 12:30. She also knows how much I dont want to come and see her. Even hubby is surprised I made the appointment. I just dont like going....kinda like the dentist and those other dr's for girls :( Wouldnt it be great if you could go to a dr. that used a magic wand like harry potter? :lol: Or did the magic blink like I dream of Jeannie :lol3:

Im off......have an awesome day everyone!! and exercise isnt back 100% yet, but its getting there.

06-02-2009, 03:26 PM
Dinner went well--thank you for the encouragement! Right now I am avoiding my lunchtime walk(it's now 2:30).

Bill--I have a potluck tonight, so I can relate! Except I've never avoided the desserts. . .

Greenville Beth--I'm impressed with your slowing down and counting between bites. I am always the first person finished(except with my sister). And congrats on getting your paintings done and to the gallery--I know how much prep time that kind of thing can take.

ChinaMaine--I'm glad you played the piano.


06-02-2009, 04:39 PM
...back from the chiro. Feeling a bit better, but the muscles are still in "protective" gear.

....gonna make an appt with the message therapist I stressed over at christmas.

HA! Can you tell Im falling apart :lol3: Its gotta be bad for me to go and have a bunch of strangers touch me :p

Food isnt too shabby so far today........the sun is shiney so its all good :sunny:

06-02-2009, 09:45 PM
It’s been a much less emotional day for DH and I today. We took a nice walk after work. Then while he cooked dinner I planted some basil and rosemary.

WI – down .75 lbs, Read my cards, made a plan. Credit! Food - op Exercise – op. Actually I did 90 mins of exercise rather than my planned 45 minutes. Credit! I’m feeling pretty tired now, but I’m hoping early to bed is all I need.

Bill Peaches and vanilla ice cream sounds like a delicious dessert, not a big mistake. Just my opinion… :) Credit for the pull-ups!

Robin Re hubby attending meeting til 7 PM. He’s a much kinder person than I. I would have declined the meeting if they’d sent me the invite… Kudos for doing both the chiro and massage therapist when you don’t like being touched by strangers. I am the same way – I really do not like massages… Glad to see you are getting back into the swing of things food and exercise-wise… :sunny:

Margaret I hope you had a chance to take your walk.

06-02-2009, 10:39 PM
OMG coaches:stress:

So I ahve my grad meeting today and we hd to show our stuff to fancesco who is curator for a gallery in town and will be showing our work concurrent to the graduation exhibit. This was stressful to em as I was showing ceramic peices, all of which broke int ransit the last time I hauled them to sdchool and back. I glued them all last night and gingerly packed them and they got to school all right only to have one fall off the wall :stress: but I was ready and had my glue and got it up and into one piece for the showing. He chose 4 of 6 for the show and a print as well. Then I tried to get everything packed up well for storage in my locker and I tried to get to movie day on time but we had to go to the next showing. Saw the movie (Up -- it was great) and then came home to a notice frm the landlord that they are replacing EVERY window in our place TOMORROW between 8 and 4. F**k. No really. I mean that. I could crab that it wasn't really 24 hours notice but DH doesn't know when the notie arrived in the mail slot.

You have NO IDEA the state of affairs of this place. I have been sorting and hoarding and bringing stuff home from school and searching for this and that and not dealing with it and now, in about 10 hours I will have strangers all through the house tryong to navigate the piles of stuff and boxes and ... so not only do I need to make space in and around the windows but I feel like the surfaces of the stove and the counter and the floors and the dust bunnies and the stuff that should have been thrown away has to ALL GO.

This so sucks yet... I was just saying June is the month to get rid of stuff; June is the month I have to do exactly what I have to do tonight, but more thoroughly. Tonight is more of a "lets make a neat pile over here an here and here..."

I'll get it done. We have done two rooms already, two more up stairs them living room and kitchen. OMG they had BETTER get it done tomorrow.

Have a good night.

Greenville Beth
06-02-2009, 11:53 PM
Weight: Down .8 lbs

I went to my new job today. I was only there for a few hours. I'm just doing a few hours 3 days this week and then start for real next Monday. It was fine.

Today was Day 12 - Practice Hunger Tolerance

I am going to actually do this on Sunday. Since I am being shown the ropes from the out-going business manager, I don't have any control over my time or enviroment. I think, it will be easier to do this at home. I'm also concerned I will have problems with it. Typically, when I get too hungry, the "I don't care" monster comes roaring to life and I run off to McDonalds. I feel as if I have a bit more control than I did even 12 days ago which is amazing, but it is still very thin strands of control. Sunday should be interesting!

I was on-plan today and even went for a walk after work. I live near Furman University, and they have a really pretty lake to walk around. I went, and took the dogs, even though it was 95. Credit me! I love bike riding but don't currently have a bike. I also don't have a good place to ride like I did when I lived on the beach. The traffic is terrible and there are no shoulders on the roads. I was thinking, however; Furman is large enough and I think safe enough, (traffic wise), to ride, so I'm going to buy a bike after I get my first pay check. I used to ride 30 miles a day. I'd like to get back to that and go further. My goal was to be able to ride 100 miles. I only made it to 50.

Onebyone - Sorry to hear about all the stress. Just think of it this way, being forced to get some of the stuff done now, you'll be thrilled later that it is finished. Best of luck on your show.

ChinaMaine - I'm glad to hear that you and your husband are doing a bit better. I've always been one to believe that things do work out for the best even when they don't seem too great at the time. Credit on the weight loss. :) Also, thanks for the kind words. I'm doing my best.

RobinW - Glad to hear you're feeling better. I'm like you. I'm not that comfortable with strangers touching me unless of course if they were tall, dark, and handsome I might not mind so much!

You're right about the steps. I was really surprised to see how many I actually had just hanging out at home.

Margaret - You might try the 10,000 step thing. I never thought much about it, but now that I'm doing it, I find that I want to push myself to have more steps. I have a feeling, it will become an obsession. Not a bad obsession to have!

I've always gulped my food. I'm finding with the counting two things. One, it is annoying when I'm hungry because I want to gulp my food (so I can eat more!). Two, I'm enjoying counting because it does make it seem like I am eating more than I am. Weird, but true. I will say, that doing this even if I wasn't dieting, it would cut down my calories consumed.

Bill - Wow on the pull ups. I have no upper body strength to speak of. Great job! I think, you can cut yourself some slack on the ice cream. It made me think of my Aunt Sara and how we would make home made ice cream at her house as well when we were a kid. What is it about home made ice cream and peaches? Nice memories.

All best,

Beth :D

06-02-2009, 11:59 PM
Coaches/Buddies DH and I swapped DS midday, so I got almost a whole day of work in. Tomorrow DH is staying with kids while I mtn bike in the morning and again while I race in the evening. How's that for cool?

I had another headache today. Decided to get that doctor switch going, since I don't like the way this is going.

Walked the boy this morning. Credit for me for finding a way to get something done. And something fun too.

Bill Thanks once again for starting the monthly thread and starting us off properly. Smiling at your lettuce! :high: on your four (4), pullups. Cool!

I think you should consider that you have found a way to tone down ice cream damage, rather than add calories to peaches. It does indeed work both ways. And anything yummy and special is worth eating, in moderation.

RobinW Sorry about your weekend, and ouch on your fall. Glad you are getting some help with it, and hope your massage goes well.

Beth Nice work on your 5 lb goal and your 10,000 steps goal per day. It is good to see you working through the steps and reminding me about them. I get lazy after a while.

Good luck with your new job. What will you be doing? Let us know when you get the bike. I'm a triathlete, so I'm riding quite a bit.

onebyone You sound so overwhelmed. One small step at a time. one by one. :hug: Oh, ow, on the windows. Nothing like some unwanted motivation.

Tera Glad your pain levels are low, and hope you get to feeling better soon. Cool NSV. My wedding ring still doesn't fit. It is titanium and must be welded in a non-oxygen atmosphere, so it isn't going to happen. I wear it on my index finger and DH got me an anniversary ring I wear on the ring finger.

Kim Sorry for your tough day, but glad to see your post.

ChinaMaine Sorry about your DH's job. That is so tough. Glad things are better today.

Margaret Why were you avoiding your walk?

Night everyone!


06-03-2009, 07:06 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Took a nice walk after work still wearing my new boots (wore them all day at work) - breaking them in; CREDIT moi. At work a long morning meeting served "continental breakfast." I knew it was coming so I planned for one croissant, which I rarely get anymore. Had that; CREDIT moi. Also snarfed a blueberry yogurt; Oh Well. But avoided mountains of decadent pastries dripping with butter and sugar.

Picked a mountain of lettuce. We now have many days worth of lettuce in the fridge and the tiny garden patch is still producing. It's amazing how much stuff can grow in two days.

onebyone - Congrats for working thru the hurdles required to get your (repaired) ceramics available to be chosen for the show.

Super Ouch for ten hours until the windows are replaced. Sending supportive thoughts that the absurdity of the situation will reduce the emotional impact of clearing to just a mechanical task. Cleaning up my clutter wouldn't be so difficult if I wasn't involved, LOL.

Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for "Food isnt too shabby so far today." Big Ouch for the neck hurting enough for you to be touched by strangers. And Kudos for remembering your gift of massages and for being willing to use them.

Anne (wndranne) - Yay for juggling DS sufficiently to get almost a day's work. Ouch for the headache; good idea to check that out.

Good luck on your race today. (Bike? Foot? Swim? All three???)

Thanks for the justification that I'm toning down ice cream damage rather than adding damage to peaches. I'm hiring you as my justification attorney, LOL. Your next assignment is justifying FREE food.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for 90 minutes of exercise. And Bigger Kudos for the emotional therapy of planting basil and rosemary. All four of my basil plants are being eaten by something; looking bleak for pesto this year unless I buy some new plants and find a way to cover them.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Congrats for starting the new job and Kudos for eating on-plan and taking a walk on the same day.

Neat idea to get a bike and ride about the university property. The whole world needs good bike paths; maybe in your spare time you can start the campaign to build the North Carolina Biking Trail.

Yay for the memory of Aunt Sara and homemade ice cream with peaches.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - LOL at "avoiding my lunchtime walk." BTDT. If I haven't started mine by 11:30 it just isn't going to happen that day. And Yay for the dinner going well.

Readers - Before You Move On

You're ready to move on to Stage 2 once you've not only checked off each skill for seven consecutive days, but you also firmly believe that:
. . .
• If I’m tempted to eat something I haven't planned, I have to use Resistance Techniques. It's worth it to me not to give in.
. . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 105

06-03-2009, 08:53 AM
Coaches, good morning.

So i cleared/piled/threw away until midnight, went to bed, got up at 6am and continued. I was finsihed, as good as it's going to be, five mintues ago. I think I may have thrown away an unopened submission to my art in the park show *sigh* and I put my glasses down somewhere after taking them off the night stand at 6am and have yet to find them but I did find my backup old pair so I can get around reasonable well. Kitty X will be a growly girl all day with this raucousness going on in HER space. DH was an (excuse me here) idiot for staying up until 4am. He's about to be woken up by the windows guys in 12 minutes. They are assembling outside as I write this. I can hear them.

I, fortuitously, have a pre-planned breaksfast meeting with friends at 8:30am.
I am getting out of Dodge. I'll have to bring the kitty downstairs and close the door ion her before i go though, if not sooner. She'll hightail it down there when she knows there are strangers in here.

On the plus side. I have a lot of small stuff. Lots of piles of things, mostly paper and art stuff. Lots of books. But after shoving it into submission these past few hours it all seems manageable, inspite of the newly created equally chaotic piles. Somehow a new shape of the interior landscape is hopeful, if daunting.

It's a good, if forced (look what the Universe does eh gang?), start to my de-cluttering process.


06-03-2009, 09:11 AM
Good morning, Beckies,

And a nippy one it is. 36 degrees. I am sure I have seen this before, but it really seems weird seeing heat vapor rise off the lake in the springtime. It is a daily thing on brisk fall mornings, but weird to see now.

BillBE, two thoughts on your Basil......or mebbe three...are you saying they were totally eaten, leaves, stems, as if by some gourmet rabbit? I have never had anything furry go for Basil. If it was critter, then I would think you could buy some new plants and pot them, keep them closer to the house, or raised up on something. Or is it an insect with a sophisticated palate? I have not had such dinner guests in my garden either, so am really baffled.

I do get lots of Celery Beetles in caterpillar form on my Dill. When you squish them, they smell like pickles. They are pretty, too; they look something like a Monarch caterpillar.

I will need lots of input from my Beckies for the use of Fennel. Have not ever used in cooking let alone grown it. It does look pretty in my herb garden, though.

Live long and prosper. You have been and always shall be my (Beckie) friends.

twilit tera
06-03-2009, 10:06 AM
WI: +1
Pain: 0/2/3
Activity: 1
Sinuses: down to a slight congestion. :)

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, water :yay:, resisting desire to eat out of boredom and self-pity :yay:

Judging by the personals, I must have missed a day. I've been pretty out of it, so I guess I'm not surprised.

Today is a new day. I have plenty to do. I don't know why my weight is up. I've been on plan as far as I know. Haven't worked out since getting sick, but still have maintained a calorie deficit. :shrug:

Kim: :yay: for something better than nothing. Wow and :yay: for getting outside and getting all that fresh air and exercise!

Robin: Bummer about the first chiro! The mold might be beyond her control, but I wouldn't go there either. I feel kind of sorry for her. If she's renting the place and the owner doesn't have proper ventilation/air conditioning, or has been letting it go, she's pretty stuck.

Glad you found one that worked for you.

Beth: :cheer: on your new job! :yay: for listening to your stomach!

Anne: My sympathies for the sick kiddo.

ChinaMaine: What plans does your hubby have now that he's left his old job?

:yay: for finding ways to improve your mood that don't involve food!

Bill: It seems to me that the best way to do peaches and ice cream is to maximize the peach, minimize the ice cream, like maybe one large spoonful. Let it melt a little to coat the peach slices, like vanilla cream syrup. Less guilt than a whole scoop of ice cream?

I have tried ring adjusters. They always seem to get caught on things, like clothes, and aren't very comfortable.

onebyone: Glad that things worked out with the art show.

:hug: I would be so panicked in your situation. I've been faced with unexpected landlords in the past. I sympathize completely.

Even expected landlords are stressful! Good luck with all you've got set up to do this month!

06-03-2009, 10:21 AM
Got through my potluck ok--it helped that we were having a meeting and the food was in the middle of the table and just far enough away that it was awkward to reach. Usually, potlucks trigger memories of church suppers as a girl, where I kept circling the tables and eating, feeling safe and comforted.

Avoiding my walk at lunch has become a problem since my volunteer at work retired--she used to remind me to go out. And I also started getting junk food at the drugstore across the street when I walked, so I get anxious walking will turn into impulse buying. I did go out at 3:00 yesterday, but it started raining. Sigh.

Onebyone--glad you got the clutter on its way out. . .

Bill--wow, passing up pastry! That's big in my book.

Greenville Beth--Yes, doing 10,000 steps is really motivating! I just started up with that again. Today I have Zumba at the Y--I never thought I'd enjoy aerobic exercise, but when I saw the class moving to Latin music it looked like so much fun, and it is! In spite of my being very uncoordinated. . .


06-03-2009, 10:37 AM
I leave for my massage in about a 1/2 hr. Im trying not to get all worked up about it :(

Eating was off yesterday...kinda sorta...kwim? I just need to pay more attention to the veggie intake.

I have so much to do today.....I'll try to get back tonight for personals.

Have a great day everyone!

06-03-2009, 08:16 PM
WI-up .75 lbs. Made a plan, and read my cards Food – op, Exercise – op. Credit! :df:

Fatigue – 2.5 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). Not surprising since I did a lot more exercise than usual yesterday…

Talked to the endocrinologist’s asst today. My thyroid numbers are higher than they’ve ever been, so the current dosage certainly didn’t bring me back to normal. :) They’re upping the dosage again… I’ll see in another 6 weeks how it goes.

one by one Yikes about the windows! It’s impressive how much you got done overnight! It's good to hear it may have been (a very stressful) blessing in disguise.

Beth :yay: for weight down! Smart to do ‘hunger tolerance’ at home, away from distractions, etc. Credit for op eating and the nice walk – sounds relaxing.

I agree that things usually work out for the best – and this is probably one of those times.

Anne :yay: for helpful DH. Ouch for the headache – hope you can get into see a doctor soon…

Bill Sounds like you have enough lettuce to be a lettuce-pusher at work! Better than pushing chocolates…

The croissant is making me hungry! You know I have this fantasy vacation planned: if they ever come up with a celiac pill so that I can eat gluten again – I’d love to go to Paris, or Quebec City and eat gluten like a glutton! :lol: Not very Beckian, but boy it sounds like heaven to me.

It’s so odd about your basil plants! My Mom told me about something called ‘liquid fence’ that works for critters like deer and bunnies. It’s made of rotten eggs, so is non-toxic to the environment (but won’t work on all critters)

Tera :yay: on the pain levels, and glad your congestion seems to be getting better… Credit for counting calories and not eating out of boredom. I’ll bet the weight gain is water (for some reason :shrug: ), and it’ll fall away just as quickly as it came.

Re-hubbie – Of course he’s looking for another job. But beyond that he wants to try and avoid the depression that’s come with previous layoffs. So, he’s planning to get up at the usual time, go to bed at the usual time. He wants to start exercising every AM. But that’s as far as we’ve gotten in talking about it. He’s working the rest of this week, and then we have houseguests for the weekend. So, I think we’ll talk about it more next week when it’s easier to process and plan…

Margaret Credit for choosing a Beckian place to sit at the potluck. Make it harder to eat off-plan! I am going to try and remember that in the future… About your walks, could you find another walking buddy, who would help you to keep on plan for walking?

Robin Ouch for having so much to do today – hope all went well… Ditto for the massage – hope you are feeling better now.

Greenville Beth
06-03-2009, 11:16 PM
Today's weight: Down .4 lbs I've been down the last 3 days, so that's nice!

Boy, it has been a long, busy day today. I am dead tired. I'm never tired this early! I think, I am going to write this and then hit the hay.

Today was Day 13 - Overcome Cravings

Cravings are difficult for me. I haven't had any lately, but I sure have in the past and know I will again. There is a "Cravings Rating Chart" in the book. I am going to put it on a little card that I can carry, so if I am out and have a craving I can pull it out and mark it down right away. On the otherside of the card, I am going to write the Anti-Craving Strategies, so I will have them with me as well.

Even thought it was a long day, I did go for my walk. Credit me! I feel good about that. I get my first paycheck on the 19th, so I am going to buy my bike then. I can't wait!

ChinaMaine - I hope the extra dose will help with your issue. Credit for making a plan and reading your response cards.

RobinW - Hope you got all you needed done today done.

Margaret - Credit on the pot luck! Since you're having trouble with your walk could you find a new route?

Tera - Major credit for not eating out of boredom! As for the weight gain, many meds that people take for infections / colds / the flu and so on cause water retention. I'm sure that's all it is.

Maryblu - Yikes! 36 degrees. I can't even stand that in the middle of winter. Hope you had a good day.

Onebyone - Congrats on getting the clutter out of the way. Credit!

Bill - Great job on not eating the pastries. I'd have a hard time with that. I have noticed that you seem to do quite well with making a plan and sticking to it. Credit for that!

Anne - Sorry to hear about the headaches. I hope your doctor can help you with that...and soon!

You asked what I will be doing on the job. Well, as the business manager of the theatre it is my responsibility to keep the doors open and make sure we can pay the bills. Beyond that, I will be doing a bit of marketing, all the accounting, of course, some fundraising, I'm the go-between for the rest of the arts community and the theatre, and so on and so on. I also manage the front of the house (theatre) and all of the volunteers and meet with the board a couple of times per month. It is also a very social job as I deal with the public, season ticket holders, and the donors. Yikes what have I gotten myself into! :D

Sweet dreams, All.


06-04-2009, 06:11 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Spent the evening reading the instruction manual for my new camera. There are a zillion modes, including the mode where I frame the shot and it decides whether I'm more interested in the group of people or the mountain behind them. So, instead of simply setting f-stop, shutter speed, and focus, I have to reverse engineer what my camera is thinking, LOL.

Did gym, ate OP; CREDIT moi. My gym was bustling with the after work crowd. That felt good; I like a busy gym, it encourages me. Best was one new guy, large, peddling away on a stationary bike in street clothes. Yay for beginners.

maryblu - Thanks for the thoughts about my suffering basil. LOL at "gourmet rabbit" and "insect with a sophisticated palate." Perhaps, but I did notice that they ate my basil and not the basil in the adjacent garden. We will start a second plant next to our house; gotta have basil in the summer for the tomatoes.

Ouch for your 36 degrees. You guys do have your own climate.

onebyone - Big Congrats on the jump start on your de-cluttering. Yep, I've found that a first pass of sorting my monster piles into bite sized chunks does wonders for making the next step possible.

Hope the windows installation went well - with minimal additional mess.

Robin (RobinW) - Calling the Buffalo police to report that a woman with touching issues goes for massage and is never heard from again, LOL. Yay for "veggie intake."

Anne (wndranne) - Waving. Hope the race went well.

Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for resisting those food Desires - those are the threats to me because I call them hunger and race to satisfy them.

Neat thought to use minimal ice cream on maximum peaches. I could even go to a local ice cream place and bring home one scoop instead of a whole pint. (Large servings of late night ice cream contributed to my weight big time.)

ChinaMaine - Ouch for the fatigue and the higher thyroid numbers. Hope the new dosage works for you.

Thanks for the tip about Liquid Fence." Will either try that or the netting.

I'll join you on your "gluten like a glutton" tour of Paris. There is some tasty stuff put before you in that city. I find it difficult to make it all the way home with a loaf of warm French Bread in Paris. Maybe the ultimate violation of Beck's strategy of not eating while standing up is to nibble a whole baguette while walking back to the hotel in Paris.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Yay for earned tired. Kudos for getting in your walk even on a super busy day.

Neat idea to have your "Cravings Rating Chart" with you to take notes immediately. Let us know how that works out.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for surviving your potluck - neat strategy to be just out of easy reach of the food.

Readers - Before You Move On

You're ready to move on to Stage 2 once you've not only checked off each skill for seven consecutive days, but you also firmly believe that:
. . .
• If I get off track, I need to get back on immediately.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 105

06-04-2009, 10:14 AM
Coaches/Buddies I kind of fell into bed after getting back from my race last night. I'm doing the local aquathlon series every Wednesday, which is an 800 yd swim and 3.1 mile run. A good workout, and lots of fun, although I always wonder what I'm doing at about mile 2 when I start to dry off and it's still 90 degrees.

Eating was on plan yesterday. Exercise was good. Did the mountain bike loop in about 20 minutes less than the last time I did it. I'm seeing improvement and that is nice. My weight is finally settling back to closer to where I left it. With the racing and traveling at altitude it's been a bit off--at times I could see my ankles swollen, so I was pretty sure it was a transitory thing, but it is nice to get it back down again.

Bill Nice work on your croissant; sorry 'bout the yogurt. I'm guessing you had far worse choices for snarfing, so give yourself a small credit on that.

I can justify ice cream all day. Free food, not so much. Just stop it. (Note the indicator word "just" in that sentence which means it is highly unrealistic advice.)

Sounds like you got a cool new toy. Hope you find the non-mind-reading mode on it! I don't know about you, but I find my mind is, hmm, nonstandard, and the things that predict based on what other people want, don't work for me very well. I like the things that learn my habits.

onebyone Nice work on the clutter whirl, and even better getting out of dodge. Hope the installation went OK.

maryblu I'm guessing you saw the new Trek? Did you know the latest Michael Scott book in the Alchemyst series is now out. The Sorceress. Unfortunately I've gotten all of 2 pages read in a week, but I'm working on it.

Best of luck with that fennel.

Tera Sorry that your weight is up, but it does happen from time to time. Perhaps we should dust off the old meteors theory I was so fond of for a while. Seriously, are you taking any meds for you cold? Sometimes those mess with your hydration status in one way or another.

Margaret Nice work on the potluck, and double kudos for getting out for your walk. Sorry the rain turned up.

RobinW Hope your massage went well. I love my massage therapist. I think I decided not to do the chiro stuff, since I never wanted to punch someone more than after I was "adjusted", but massage therapy is wonderful.

ChinaMaine Good news for being on plan. Glad you got some info on your thyroid status, but sorry it will take 6 weeks to figure it out. Hoping they get the dosage right on this go round.

Beth Great thinking on dealing with cravings. I pulled one of Bill's "That's not about me"s when a boxful of empanadas turned up at work. Worked like a charm. This time! LOL. I get a lot of little tips here for stuff.

Thanks for the info on your job. Sounds very cool!

Lovely day everyone. I'll stop by tonight.


twilit tera
06-04-2009, 10:30 AM
WI: steady
Pain: 0/2/6
Activity: 3

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, water :yay:, C appt. :yay:, eating only half a sandwich at dinner :yay:, very carefully choosing dessert from all the options at Whole Foods :yay:

Mom is in the hospital. :woo:

That bears explanation. My mother has had a long history of liver problems, due to a condition that went unrecognized until about 5 years ago. She's had a tube to assist with drainage for over a year. Without it we might have lost her by now.

She's been on the recipient list for new livers for a little over six months, and lately she's been in worse shape than she had been since they tubed her. She's been getting infections and her brain function has been lower than usual. (She gets muddy minded when her liver enzymes get flushed back into her bloodstream.)

Last night they got a liver in that was big enough to cover two operations: my mother and a little girl. Surgery was scheduled for 9pm last night. We've been wondering also about the little girl, but we don't really expect to get much news about her.

I expect to spend a lot of time with my mother through recovery. No matter how much time I spend in the hospital, I will be on plan today!

Margaret: :yay: for successfully resisting pot luck food. It sounds like making food difficult to reach is a good strategy to remember later.

Is there a route you can walk that does not put you near stores?

ChinaMaine: :yay: for OPness. :crossed: for the new med dosage.

Makes sense waiting for the dust to settle before going into hubby's plans in more detail. I wish him tons of luck.

Beth: :yay: for paying attention to your body's need for sleep. Good work preparing for the cravings exercise. As I recall, I had to wait quite a while before I could do that one. So much of what I was doing already was fending off cravings pretty well!

I'm excited for your plans to get a bike!

Bill: Congrats on your new artificially intelligent camera. :D

:yay: for a good trip to the gym!

06-04-2009, 10:44 AM
Good Morning :sunny:

Bill! :lol3: Im going to use that quote in my newsletter!! The people who know me, will think that's just as hilarious as I did. Did I mention I dont like round things either? :rofl: Good luck with reprograming your camera! :lol:

Anne~ I havent been to a chiro in over 12 yrs, and yup, that's about how I felt when I went. I had intense mistrust for them. But Ive known this Dr. about 3 yrs, and I thought this was something I may have needed. Seems the chiro and the massage therapist together did the trick. Im down to just a pulling of the muscle on the left side now....with no ibuprofen!! Progress is wonderful. Mind you I really liked my massage, and I think I may start going more often. Especially after long days at the shop and standing at the heat press for hours on end. I think she will work wonders!

Beth~ Kudos for getting your walk in! :cb: Nope, I didnt get everything done yesterday. Im terrible for leaving stuff that "I" need. So today Im making a special trip to go get an iron!! Ive been fluff drying stuff :rolleyes:

onebyone~ Kudos for decluttering in such a short amount of time. Just think how much less you will have to do this month :lol:

Tera~ what wonderful news for your mother. How is she doing this morning?

Margaret~ Kudos for getting thru the potluck "ok"! Im going to one on tuesday...Im hoping to do "ok" as well. I always find when I go to those things, ppl look at my plate to see if Im eating what they brought. Too much peer pressure to eat :(

ChinaMaine~ hopefully your new dosages will help get you back to feeling like yourself.

As for me...I have one more chiro appt. Going to go get my iron, and manage to get everything done at the shop so I can have the weekend off. Ive been trying to get out of here early, but it just isnt going to happen. Oh well.

Food isnt the has creeped back in. Those double up for a buck sales need to stop!! Exercise has stopped. But Im thinking I will be able to get that back in probably tomorrow :D

Im off.....have an awesome day everyone!!

06-04-2009, 02:06 PM
Hi Everyone,

Good suggestions about my lunchtime walk(which I need to take soon)--maybe if the side door is unlocked I could exit that way instead of past the gift shop in the lobby and the drugstore directly across from the main door.

RobinW--Good luck with your potluck! I had a peer pressure moment when the host said she was surprised I didn't eat this one dish that was "healthy"--it was uncomfortable, but I said I'd just had it, and that yes, normally I would eat it.

Bill--the picture of you walking through Paris nibbling a baguette is hilarious--the anti-Beck!

Tera--I'm so glad your mother got a liver. I just found out that my stepfather is having muddled thinking from his liver troubles. Good for you for planning to be on plan at the hospital--that's a big thing, with the stress, waiting, vending machines and cafeteria food. I've taken up knitting recently, and it really helps when I'm waiting for anything, keeps my hands busy.

Greenville Beth--Maybe you've gotten yourself into a job that will allow you to bloom into your social self. Kudos for applying, interviewing, accepting and starting this job--that's big!

Ok, time to change my shoes and head out for my walk.


06-04-2009, 10:53 PM
WI-down .25 lbs. Made a plan, and read my cards Food – op, Exercise – op. I took an extra walk after work, so I exercised over an hour today. Credit! :df:

Fatigue – 2.3 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue)

I realized today that my thyroid has gotten my Irish up. I am stubbornly insistent that I will exercise and be fit, even though my thyroid makes me want to lie down all too often. It whispers sabotaging thoughts about staying in bed an extra hour or laying down after work, and I just quote Beck -- NO CHOICE! (well except when I'm traveling I'm afraid... ;) ) : In January, when I thought my thyroid was fully treated, I decided I wanted to get to the point where I exercised a minimum of 1 hour a day. My goal was to do 15 mins each of Yoga, Strength, Walking, and Elliptical every day. So, in addition to walking every day, I started using My Fitness Coach for Yoga and Strength exercises in February. It caused extreme fatigue for weeks and made me realize I had to move towards my long term exercise goal very slowly, :snail: or I wouldn’t make it at all. And I got kinda mad about it I think. :tantrum:

NSV: Being a stubborn Irishwoman has it's benefits. :yay: As of this week I’m doing a minimum of 45 minutes a day – including Strength training *with* handweights 2-3 times a week. Next week I hope to start doing the elliptical. The last time I tried (19 months ago), 5 mins on the elliptical put me in bed for 2 days. I’m stronger now, and I believe I can beat the elliptical, if I take my time. I figure I’ll start at 5 mins a week if necessary. I will get to 15 minutes a day at some point; it might be 4 months from now, might be a year. But I will do it. I am Irish, after all. :D

Beth Sounds like you have a great strategy for cravings. Credit for going for a walk when feeling so tired!

Bill Reading the manual is completely against my world-view. I prefer to try it out, get mad because it doesn’t work as I expect it to, and repeat several times, before I’ll finally open the manual. :D Credit for following a much more productive path! Nice story about the new guy at the gym – credit to both of you!

Amusing story about the baguette. :D All-things-gluten taste best in Paris -- they really know how to make bread, pastries, etc. (sigh… )

Anne Kudos for the exercise – your exercise always sounds so exotic and fun. (Well except for the 90 degree part, and it’s not even summer yet!)

Tera :woohoo: for your Mom’s liver! It must take a huge load off… How long before you know the prognosis on the surgery, recovery etc.? How is your Mom feeling today? Thanks for the best wishes for my hubbie.

Oh and sorry to see your pain is up. Is it stress about Mom, or something else?

Robin Hope the chiro visit takes care of the last of the pain.

Margaret Credit for taking your walk!

06-04-2009, 11:56 PM
Coaches/Buddies I was so on plan today. The donuts were not about me. I had a good day at work and a nice rest day. I haven't figured out my exercise for tomorrow yet. Still scraping time at work after DS's and my days out on Monday/Tuesday. I'm also off for my first mammogram. Could be two rest days in a row, but I'll try for something. Maybe a run.

I started working with my triathlon coach again, so my workouts after this week are all planned.

Tera Good to hear about your mother, and also that you aren't using this as a reason to go off plan.

Robin Happy to hear your massage worked out. Make a Memory Card. You stressed about it, and in the end, it was good. You tried something difficult and it worked out. Hurray!

Watch that wine! I saved enough calories for a beer tonight, which I'm enjoying immensely, but I'm all done eating so it can't (usually) lull me into eating more than I should.

Margaret I LOVE the idea of going out a different door. Such a simple work around!

ChinaMaine Good to hear about your exercise!

We have two summers here in Tucson, dry and wet. Both are hot! Thunderstorms typically start in July, but we've been getting some previews.

'Night everybody!


06-05-2009, 07:14 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Food Op, other than one little problem, walk included buying two pounds of strawberries for $3; CREDIT moi.

Little Problem: the Customer was in town for our weekly meeting. Food Pusher #2 arrived with a box of pastry from the best shop in town - the kind tied with twine. Normally Not About Me helps me to coast past this stuff. I'd just had my morning snack of toasted soy nuts before the meeting; wasn't hungry. Food Pusher #1 grabbed a Danish the size of a pizza loaded with four different glazed-somethings. The Customer, a large man, dug down to retrieve an almond croissant the size of a cabbage and, with some remark containing the word "shouldn't" took half. In one nano-second I was overwhelmed by the notion that it would help our contract for me to bond with the Customer by eating the other half and before there was even time for a punctuation mark behind that thought it was down the gullet. Ooops. Oh Well.

So, dear rationalization lawyer, Anne (wndranne), is a sudden recognition of the Customer's feelings sufficient or should I blame ChinaMaine who introduced this Paris gluten-glutton notion? Would your decision be influenced if it were the best croissant I've ever had on this side of the Atlantic?

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for your success with the Chiro and massage therapy. And yay again that you plan to go back.

LOL at "I don't like round things either." Good grief!!!!!

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for using Not About Me on those donuts.

And Kudos for doing the aquathlon series every Wednesday; you sure do well with your athletics.

Tera (twilit tera) - Yay for your mom's new liver, and Kudos for your determination to be on plan regardless of hospital diversions.

Yep, the camera's got artificial intelligence. At least. It has a setting where it waits for the subject to smile. I can't get past that one. What will happen on my vacation if I choose to shoot a dour camel? Perhaps I'll never return, LOL.

ChinaMaine - Ouch that the fatigue remains elevated. Kudos for invoking your inner stubborn Irishwoman to keep on exercising. Hoping you find the right path that avoids that two days out of commission thing.

Are you typing on your repaired laptop yet?

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for the walking and for modifying your plans to avoid the food temptations.

Readers - Stage 2
The Think Thin Initial Eating Plan

Eating Guidelines

Prepare as many meals as possible at home; eat at home or carry your meals and snack with you.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 112

twilit tera
06-05-2009, 10:02 AM
WI: -.5
Pain: 0/3/6
Activity: 3

Pain is definitely linked to activity level. The more I'm on it, the more it hurts. Overall, though, the numbers are low for the amount of activity I'm doing lately.

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, walking to the grocery store for stew ingredients :yay:, vitamins :yay:, shoes :yay:

Mom's new liver is working, the docs say. She's in ICU in stable condition til later today.

Robin: :wave: I'm glad that chiro/massage therapy worked so well!

Margaret: Best wishes for your stepfather. What's his diagnosis? It took years for them to figure out what was wrong with Mom...

ChinaMaine: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: I applaud your perseverance.

Anne: :yay: for not about me.

Thanks everyone for your warm wishes and thoughts about my mom.

06-05-2009, 10:35 AM
Bill~ "LOL at "I don't like round things either." Good grief!!!!!" I was sooooooo thrilled when our coaster supplier finally got square coasters I ordered a whole case! I can sell those suckers! LOL

06-05-2009, 10:22 PM
Hi Coaches

Friday night and I made it through the week.

Now on to the weekend. I am demo-ing at the school of art for the Doors Open Ottawa event. Those who choose tp check out the school will find me making prints in the print room. I plan to get the work I wanted to get done before done during the two hours at the demo. I even get paid for it.

Before that though I will be wandering the booths at the Glebe art in the park this weekend. I will be handing out flyers for our show there to artists who we've already accepted and also handing out flyers to those we might want in our show. It's another marathon race weekend here but this park isn't as close to downtown as the park we are in so the traffic will just be show bad, not race spectator and event bad.

And after all this we head to Montreal for dinner (2hrs) with DH's brother for his birthday and then we come home. It will be an exhausting day. But a fun day. I hope.

Sunday I have nothing going on.

Anyway i have nothing to say about my food. I still don't have any motivation to do anything real about it even though I daily think I am ruining my health. I do think I'll turn the corner soon but I am not going to write that out right now. I don't really trust that part of my brain. It lies to me. When i satart just doing it then I'll believe it. This makes me sound crazy doesn't it? I just am tired of saying I am doing this or that only to see me not do this or that. And I am really tired of saying that stuff here. I am sure people must glaze over at my posts by now... it jsut feels liek the same old thing all the time.

Ah well.

That's not the point here anyway. It's just to write when we need to write and to root out sabotaging thoughts. I see many of them in this post.

Thnaks for that coaches. I promise to keep on keepin on until I get "it" back again.

Enjoy your weekend.

Greenville Beth
06-05-2009, 10:59 PM
Today's weight: Holding steady

It has been a couple of crazy days. I've been way too busy. I worked today and my opening was tonight. I also had to poke my head into a couple of other openings, so it was a long day / night. I didn't get my walk in today or yesterday. It was pouring down rain yesterday, so that's my excuse. I was planning on walking after work tonight and before the opening, but I didn't get home in time. I only had about 45 minutes to change / eat / and get ready for the opening and get there. I will be doing a ton of yard work tomorrow, so that will help.

Day 14 - 15: Plan for tomorrow / Monitor Your Eating

I did write out my food list last night for today, which I followed. Credit me. I have also made my food list for tomorrow. I want to take some time this weekend to re-read the first 15 days in the book. I feel like I've been so busy the last few days that I've been skimming over things. I really want them to sink in and give them the due and time they deserve.

Onebyone - You'll know when the time is right to do something real about it. Cut yourself some slack. You're going through a lot of changes right now. It takes awhile to sort them all out.

Tera - I hope your mother is doing well. You're doing a great job with all the stress that I'm sure this is causing. Credit for that!

Bill - You may have made a friend for life eating half his roll. I'm actually going to Paris (and England for school) at the end of the year. I'll make it my mission to take care of some of that bread for you. :D

Anne - You go! All your activity is really motivating me. I can not wait to get my new bike. Major credit for you.

ChinaMaine - Great job on all the exercising. It's not easy to swim upstream. Credit!

Margaret - Thanks for the kind words. The crazy thing about this job is that I didn't interview, apply or anything else. I just happened to run into the Executive Director of the theatre (who I knew slightly) and we started talking and she told me her business manager has quit the day before and I said, I can do that job. She said, do you know anything about accounting? I said, I have a degree in accounting and the job was mine. It's funny because I hadn't seen her in over a year. We've decided it was meant to be. :)

RobinW - Hope you had a good day.

I'm sorry if I missed anyone. I went back pretty far. To anyone I didn't's a shout out to ya! :)

All best,


06-05-2009, 11:41 PM
Coaches/Buddies I did nothing today for exercise. But feel good about it, and have a run planned tomorrow morning. DS fell asleep at about 3:30 today and appears to be down for the night! DD had some drama. My eating was good, and perhaps even on the low side of normal. Work was decent.

DS's 1st birthday party is tomorrow. I think I'm in denial. EEEEKK.

Bill I think you were using your rationalization of the Customer's feelings as an excuse. Boo hiss. But you are totally forgiven if it was indeed the best croissant I've ever had on this side of the Atlantic. I'm of the philosophy that occasional, unplanned treats are ok, if they are worth it. I think it qualifies.

Tera Glad to hear about your mom's good progress, and that you are staying on plan through all of this.

Robin Hurray for non-round coasters. I think. I like round.

onebyone Good work on identifying those sabotaging thoughts. I think you are setting yourself up for a Big Click soon.

Beth Nice work writing down your food plan. That is a tough one for me.

Night everybody! :wave:


06-06-2009, 04:39 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Ate OP and did gym; CREDIT moi. Lunch was a frozen Lean Cuisine steak tips - not particularly good or satisfying. I bought five of these on a huge sale thinking they'd be great backups when I was out of food or time. So far, I've not liked the first three. If I wasn't so stubborn I'd just toss the last two, but I won't. Perhaps when the salmon one comes to the top I'll add a can of sardines to it for flavor, LOL.

onebyone - Yay for a monster busy day; hope your recruiting went well. Did you go to a restaurant in Montreal?

Kudos for posting and for "I promise to keep on keepin on." Get your head and spirit on track and eating will follow.

Have you had time to get that new bicycle out lately?

Robin (RobinW) - So neat to find happiness in square coasters. A whole case of square coasters no less.

Anne (wndranne) - Happy Birthday DS. Good luck to you avoiding whatever cake and ice cream appear in your face. And Congrats to you for matching that with your full year of continuous loss and exercise. Hard to imagine what physical shape you'll have achieved by his eighteenth.

Thanks for the thought "that occasional, unplanned treats are ok, if they are worth it." Velveeta on a Ritz cracker never fits that criteria and the operative word, occasional, must be remembered.

Tera (twilit tera) - Yay for your mom's working liver. Continuing to send supportive thoughts for her recovery. Does this mean that the tube is removed and she goes back to a normal life?

Kudos for all the activity despite its increase in pain. Hopefully you're doing the right thing. Love the thought of walking to the grocery store for stew ingredients. That's my kind of walking.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Ouch for so busy that a "ton of yard work" appears as relaxing, LOL. Is this the standard for your new job?

Kudos for marching along with the Beck Program Days including a written food plan. That's good stuff.

Ah, my agent in Paris for gluten-glutton, what a deal. Do you accept special orders?

Readers - Eating Guidelines

Eat all of the food on your plan. It's OK to leave food on your plate if your are full, but not if you are just trying to lose weight faster. If you routinely skip some food and find yourself getting hungry an hour later, this means you're not eating enough at meals.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 112

twilit tera
06-06-2009, 10:02 AM
WI: none today
Pain: 1/3/5
Activity: 3

Spent a few hours in the ICU. Mom was awake, then asleep, then awake, then asleep... well, if any of you have had someone recovering from a big procedure, you probably understand. She's still getting over the anaesthesia.

Her color is great, and when she was awake, she was truly present. They've kept her one more night in ICU... being extra careful because it was a split liver transplant and they want to be absolutely sure it's not going to leak before they move her.

Last night I went waaaaay off plan. I wasn't feeling especially bored or emotional. I'm not even sure what the thought process was that led to it. Part of it was that I couldn't find a proper calorie count for my beverage. Hmm. Must do some more analysis, just not obsess on it.

The biggest factor might be the lack of exercise induced endorphins lately. I was looking for yummy to replace the swim buzz.

06-06-2009, 05:18 PM
Had a thought, "there's the bakery, I could stop there," and paid attention to it. I need to keep reminding myself that those thoughts will float in, but I don't have to take them seriously.

:(So after eating two not very satisfying baked goods, and feeling hypercritical of myself, I came home and did a "Get back on track" response card--I am still struggling with Beck's idea that mistakes are normal. I assume they mean I am a bad person and a failure--what a challenge to accept them, and move on.

06-07-2009, 06:23 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Food OP without an issue because Saturday is the day for my sandwich of peanut butter on toasted whole wheat sandwich bread ends with pecans and a banana; CREDIT moi. It amazes me that I never tire of that sandwich, in fact, look forward to it. Exercise was of sufficient duration but of minimal intensity since we spent an inordinate amount of time watching a fledgling Downy Woodpecker chasing its mother begging for food; Oh Well.

I hate shopping. Was aghast; vanity sizing must have hit men's shirts or at least the one I wanted to buy. A medium fit like a tent and a small fit perfectly. This is unreal, I've never worn a size small in anything. Wish this size inflation thing would leave men's clothing alone. I should mention that I hate shopping. When my ship come in my butler will have my valet tell my tailor to make my shirts from a laser scan of my body and there will be no size tags.

Tera (twilit tera) - Yay that your mother is recovering; can imagine that seeing her with good color and fully present is encouraging. Would email her virtual chicken soup but feel that a liver transplant calls for something stronger.

Ouch for wandering off plan. Yay for just going forward.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Ouch for the Sabotaging Thought floating in; Kudos for recognizing it so you can throw us some strategies next time.

And Kudos for working on accepting that mistakes are normal. Wish I knew why that was so difficult.

Readers - Eating Guidelines
. . .
Notice your hunger level as you modify your eating.
. . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 112

06-07-2009, 01:34 PM
Coaches/Buddies Kind of a big food day yesterday with DS's first birthday, and then dinner out with the girls. But it was planned, and that stuff happens. I also got out for my run, even though it stank. Credit moi.

So far so good today. It's been a halfway relaxing morning after lots of overstimulation on everyone's part yesterday.

Bill Sorry your Lean Cuisines aren't working out. I have mixed feelings about them myself. I hate shopping too. I think I'm the only chick around here like that.

Thanks for the great thoughts about how I'll look at DS's 18th. Wow. I just keep chipping away. BTW: I'm only 2 lbs above my pre-DS weight, and I'm calling that victory. Now to push on to pre-DD's weight, LOL.

Tera Very glad to hear your mom is doing well. Sounds like you might have gotten nabbed by the post-event off-plan monster. Just when you think its safe to back into the kitchen, wham!

Margaret Glad you got back on plan after the baked goods. It is useful for me to remember what was worth the calories and what isn't. Mediocre snacks just don't cut it.

Quiet around here this weekend. Hope you all are doing well.


Greenville Beth
06-07-2009, 08:36 PM
Weight - Down .4 lbs

I've been staying with my father this weekend, so I don't have my Beck book with me to talk about the actual days. My mother / sister are out of town and my father has pretty serious memory loss and is rather frail, so he can't stay alone.

I did make a dent on the yard work. Credit me. It's a never ending process, but great exercise! I've been on-plan and the weight is coming off oh so slowly. That's a tough one for me, but I'm dealing with it. Credit. :)

I like this planning / writing down my food plan for the next day. It does make it easier for me to stick to.

Anne - Great on getting your run in. I've come to count on you doing some sort of exercise! :D

Bill - Sounds like a great sandwich. I have noticed that men's shirts are huge. My father, who is 6 feet tall but very thin, has a difficult time finding shirts to fit because they hang on him.

As for my new job, I'm afraid it is quite time intensive. During a non-production week I'm looking at 40 - 50 hours ( 5 days per week). During production weeks about 80 hours per week (6 and usually 7 days per week). That's theatre for you. People that work in theatre say it is their life. That's because they don't have time for anything else! When I was in grad school working on my MFA in playwriting, I was at school (class) and in the theatre 65 hours a week. Then I was expected to write another 40 hours a week. The thing now is I'm going from working 12 hours a week (teaching college part-time) to this. Yikes.

As for your Paris food order, just get it in early. Mine will be long enough. I see in my future a lot of walking in Paris to work off the bread.

Tera - I'm glad it sounds as if your Mother is doing well. I hope that continues. Don't forget to get some rest yourself.

Margaret - Don't be too hard on yourself for your slip. Perfection is boring. Besides, I have no doubt that you'd cut anyone else some slack, so cut yourself some.

All best,


06-07-2009, 09:06 PM
Dear Coaches

I'm writing to you from the couch.
It's nice here on the couch.

I was out this morning in the rental car. I enjoy a car very much since we don't own one. It's cool here today. And damp. Definitely not June weather.
I am hoping to plant the garden tomorrow. More rain is forecast for the rest of the week so I think tomorrow will be my day to do that.

We made it to Montreal yesterday for the birthday meal with DH's brother. Wow. It was the worst service I think I've ever experienced and the people at the table were really, how can I say this, well they did nothing to participate in conversation at all! Nothing. DH and I were commenting on how we know very little more of the other 6 people there than we did when we were introduced; or rather DH was introduced. I introduced myself and no one asked anything about me or DH. it was weird. Makes me think the art of conversation is dying. Aren't people curious about one another anymore? I tried but all my effort fell flat and I just left it at that. I did hear everything there is to know of a schoolyard game called "Bum's Up": think dodge ball aimed at your butt. :yawn:

Foodwise DH and I never did get our salad, even though it was painstakingly ordered (the waiter made a big deal about it) and we waited forever for everything so we just let it go. They couldn't get glasses of wine to the table for some reason and two orders were wrong. I (kudos here) got the catch of the day, though this was a steakhouse chain (Le Bifteque -- I would have been happier at the Mr. Steak we drove past which DH said was like a Shopsy's weiner place). Anyway, it did make me think we should zip to Montreal more often. But I always think that when we zip to Montreal. We made it home by 1 am.

Now I am wiped out. I'm making a Dr.'s appt tomorrow. the leg pain isn't a big deal any longer but it's not quite gone and I am due for a checkup, overdue in fact. I think I just have to go and bring my list of minor complaints and have him look under the hood. And I'm going to look into using the pool and the workout room at the community center for our building complex. It's around the corner from me, a 10 min walk or a 2 min bike ride. We dropped by there on Friday to get free flowers to plant (they were all gone) and I found myself longing to swim in the pool. For me though it's never easy to go there. I feel very self conscious and very F-A-T. Lots of kids in there all the time. *sigh* Whatever. Maybe I need a snappy robe to wear as a coverup/towel into the pool area. This way I minimize the amount of time spent exposing my body to the eyes of others. Eventually I'll get over it but I am really sensitive right now. The pool is free ($-wise) for residents (that's me) and the weight room was $100 for the year. It has a small assortment of machines and freeweights and I think one treadmill and one elliptical. Since we are here, and here for a while I guess (I am removing the focus on moving away for now. I simply can't take it emotionally. The health of my body is rapidly rising to priority No. 1 instead. I suppose this is a kudo in itself of some sort.)

Anyway such are my thoughts this evening. Graduation is coming closer thank goodness. I'll be glad to see it here and gone.

And DH said to me yesterday that he had a plan for both of us to lose weight. (I perked up. DH has gained a lot of weight over the past couple of years.) So I said "eat less?" "No!" So he said his plan was that daily we would agree to do any of the following together: bike ride, walk, or wii fit. And if we didn't our penalty was to have s-e-___. He said that would be motivating to him but it doesn't make sense to me. I'd assume we would never do any of the other activities if he had a say in it and that was the "penalty". Maybe I should make the se_ the reward for the other activity? Hmmmm. Now that really would motivate him.

twilit tera I haven't sent you my best wishes for your mom's recovery. Wow. I didn't know she need a liver and that's so fantastic she got one. I can only imagine the stress you have been under with this over all these months. It is understandable that you had some extra unplanned food. remember the "persist in victory" phrase? You've done so well during the obvious danger times... that exactly when persist in victory needs to be summoned forth. Big hugs to you and your family.

wndranneThanks for seeing the glass half full. I'd like to say I have had the Big Click happen but it's not true. That you can see it coming makes me feel it could be. Thank you.

billblueyes Alas my bike still awaits me. i have some menatal block about others seeing me as I see myself. It's really narcissistic to think ANYONE CARES about how I look on a bicycle. Sheesh. I promise tomorrow morning I'll walk it to the gas station, get air in the tires, (I still don't know if it's fit to ride), and if all goes well I will ride it around the nearby park and home. I'll do it as soon as I wake up, before I have time to think my way out of it. And I'll report back. BTW I am surprised at the resizing of men's clothes! I feel your annoyance and share it.

RobinW I hope you had a relaxing weekend. I'm glad all went well with the chiro and the RMT last week.

Nuxmaga Hi! billblueeyes had a great response to things like the bakery you walked by. He once said "that's not about me". I find that works like a charm.

Greenville Beth Hi! You sound as busy as I am. Kudos for planning your food. It's a key strategy.

06-08-2009, 06:27 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Drat! Got suckered by a chocolate fountain. Oh Well.

Actually, I did a really good Beck strategy; I skipped the first stage of a three house eating event as an easy way to limit the champagne and appetizers. CREDIT moi. Did good enough for a grand affair at the outside buffet at the second stage by the old trick of filling my plate with salad. CREDIT moi. But then, instead of skipping the house with the desserts as I had planned, I followed the crowd and had dessert. Not the worst, as I had a creme brulee that would fit the notion of being special, since I don't get that often. Then I saw the chocolate fountain and fell for it. Truly mediocre chocolate over wonderful strawberries. Chocolate only good enough for the 4 year old girl who had it all over her face. If I had followed my plan, I'd feel like a hero. The only positive was that I chatted with some old friends I don't see often and met some neat new people.

Spent the weekend getting frantic about getting everything done before my vacation. I'll be away for three weeks from Sunday evening June 14th through Monday July 5th, presumably off-web the whole time as we chase birds and plants and general wilderness stuff. I'll miss you guys and your support. Anne (wndranne) has agreed to start the July thread so life will continue here as usual.

onebyone - Yay for getting to Montreal despite the weirdness of the conversation. I've had that experience where the particular combination of people seemed to keep conversation at bay. Weird.

Kudos to your DH for thinking about exercise for the both of you. LOL at the good male idea of a motivating reward system. Does seem like an opportunity if you can figure out a way to tie his desired reward into his success at getting you on your plan, but, like you, the convolution of it all boggles.

Neat strategy to think of "snappy robe" to allow the pool to be part of you life. Once you break through the initial barrier, 'twould seem a fun option.

Sending positive thoughts for your bike today.

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats on being one stomach virus away from your pre-DS weight. Onward to pre-DD weight. Is that goal or is there a pre-DH weight, LOL?

Kudos for getting in your run even with the chaos of your DS's birthday. I presume both kids remain on a sugar high for the entire weekend keeping your house buzzing.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - WOW, your job sounds really engaging. Hope you're able to find your path between joyfully involved and distant enough to avoid burnout.

Good luck taking care of your father. When I've talked to my FIL with serious fading memory issues, it has always amazed me how clearly he can tell his old stories - no details are lost, the cadence, voice tone, and humor are all right there. But today's stuff is frequently beyond his grasp, even if just explained a few minutes before.

Readers - Eating Guidelines
. . .
Create a weekly plan.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 112

twilit tera
06-08-2009, 09:34 AM
WI: +a couple... not sure what I reported last, but I'm over the 220 mark again.

Pain: 0/3/5

Credits: :swim:

This has been a bigger disruption in my plan than I'd thought. I've been pondering on why I went so far off plan and what the best way is to get back on track. I think it starts here. With deciding to be on track, or as close to it as possible (until I'm going to the hospital less, some flexibility will be necessary, but there's a difference between making reasonable substitutions, and eating whatever, whenever).


Posts will be short for a while, as I deal with the upheaval, but at least I'll be checking in.

Oh, and since I missed the question last time, yes, Bill once mom's healed up from surgery, it'll be difficult to keep her out of the pool. :)

06-08-2009, 11:04 AM

what a weekend!! We had 2 computers hit with some wicked virus...the home pc and my work pc. Dh's pc is really funky and keeps freezing up on him. Its what I am using now. So who knows how long or if I'll even get this post posted.

Dh is working on my pc at the moment reinstalling "everything". The pc Dr. wants me to start using firefox...which I intensely dislike :(

My stress level was off the charts this weekend. I told dh I needed a 1lb prozac and gallon of wine :( I managed with 2 bottles of wine, and way too much chocolate and marshamallows. *sigh*

I need better coping mechanisms!

As of this morning, Im back to it....lets hope I can keep my stuff together.

I'll post more later once hubby has everything re-downloaded onto my pc.

Have a great day everyone!

06-08-2009, 01:36 PM
Hello all. I was a member of this group a year or so back. Fell out of the habit of reading and posting, and fell off the wagon with weight loss as well.

Joining under a new name to make a fresh start! Looking forward to this weight loss journey with renewed enthusiasm.

06-08-2009, 02:11 PM
Thanks for the encouragement about my bakery incident. That was followed up by a neighbor calling about bringing me freshly made cookies, which I ignored, but then she found me on Facebook, and I gave in and told her to bring them over. I did manage to save some for my husband by sticking them in the freezer. I need to review Beck's food pusher chapter.

I am feeling anxious about tomorrow. I have a committee meeting that I dread, which in the past involves me eating too much junk from the lunch cart, and then when everyone leaves, eating much of the leftovers.

nwamom--welcome back! I just joined, but it's been helpful already.

RobinW--yeah, coping mechanisms are hard. At a very young age I had enough experiences of eating as a way to cope, and that has stuck, even though now I know that ultimately I feel worse.

Twilit Tera--Hope your Mom is doing well. I asked my mother what my stepfather's diagnosis is, but she hasn't responded. All the best with staying on plan--even if it's just starting with one meal.

Bill--Sorry to hear about the chocolate fountain. There seems to be a ratio for me that the more mediocre a dessert is, the more of it I end up eating!

06-08-2009, 04:52 PM
Good afternoon coaches

I woke up late and drove over to my friend's house to finally plan the vegetable garden I had planned on planting a few weeks ago. We've had three frosts (very unusual) over those three weeks and everything is delayed 2 weeks (including the local strawberries) so I am actually within the realm of "normal" for gardening starts this year. Anyway, 4 1/2 hours laters I have tom thumb lettuce, cucs, carrots, parsnip, kohlrabi, yellow beans, broad beans, beets, radishes, peas, sunflowers, canteloupe, white patty pan squash, butternut squash, baby red watermelon and the Giant Atlantic Pumpkin (100 - 500lbs in size the packet promises! The pumpkin is "for the boys" as my friend has two sons: 8 and 6 but it's as much for me, age more than 6, and Tim, age more than 8 ;))Everything is snuggly planted in the earth with an initial watering done. Ah! feels like a job well done. Kudos to me.

So no bike ride since I slept in. There is always tomorrow. I missed calling the Dr too so I have to do both of these things tomorrow.

Nuxmaga Your meeting tomorrow sounds like a challenge. It's good you are planning in advance for it. Make some decisions around what you will do and follow it. Each time you go through it it will be easier as you practice your new strategies... good luck!

nwamomHi and welcome back. Looking forward to your posts as you start again...:hug:

RobinW Ugh nothing more disturbing than computers not working right. Sorry you're dealing with that. My HP laptop that I am using right now is actually recalled for a faulty something. To get it fixed I have to send it off somewhere and would be without it for 2 weeks. I haven't done it yet. It's an intermittent problem right now. I hope your computers get straightened out soon. :hug:

twilit tera Your instincts are right. Start here, start small, do one small thing consistently. Be gentle with yourself. You are living through extraordinary circumstances. kudos for the swim.

BillBlueEyesWow. A three house eating event. Wow. Good for having a strategy for that. I'd be overwhelmed and seriously looking forward to ALL of the food. Happy to read there was chatting going on at your event. Where are you vacationing...somewhere exotic??

See you later coaches.

06-08-2009, 10:37 PM
Just a quick cuppla quips, dear Beckies,

Onebyone, I would say DH has come up with a win/win! He must be a Covey guy. Exercise or sexercise, s'all good!

Welcome back nwamom, but I an going nuts trying to figure out who you are! (or should I say "were"). I think you should start giving us some hints and let us guess. Or let us ask questions. Yeah, that would be cool! Like the old "What's My Line" show. Prolly only BillBE and I are the only ones who can remember that show. So, my one question is: Do you have more than one dawg?

Thoughts to all, especially Tera. Lots on your plate right now.

Wndranne, thanks for the tip about the next Michael Scott book; it reminded me I had abandoned the Alchemist. Have dived back in with glee.

06-08-2009, 11:15 PM
Coaches/Buddies I thought I missed a day, but I guess not. I had a good day at work for once, did some math, got some stuff done.

Eating was on plan. Well, actually it was off plan, since I left work with my afternoon snack still there, and never actually got a snack, but it all worked out. I think I will indulge in a beer tonight as I read Michael Scott.

Run of almost 4 miles this morning. Had to do a walk break when my HR peaked on a hill, but it was good. Tomorrow I bike. Road bike.

Beth Nice work on the yard work, the food plan, and keeping on without your book!

onebyone I'd say your DH's plan is worth a shot, eh? LOL.

Bill It is good to see you giving yourself credit for the events around the chocolate fountain! Also glad we still have a week of your insight before you go primal on us!

My pre-DH weight is 289, so I'm not going there, LOL. My goals for the year, are 180 by June, close but no cigar, and 160 by year's end. Pre-DD was low 170s. I want to see if I can take it a little further to help out my running. I never set a "final" goal weight, because I care way more about all the things on my ARC than the number on the scale, and those are my goals, aspiration, and dreams. The weight is just a tool to help me do those things.

Tera :hug: Glad to see you back on track!

RobinW I think you need a heavy bag instead of marshmellows to deal with stress!! Hope your computers get fixed up. I'm lost without mine.

nwamom Welcome back!

Margaret Beware FaceBook. It is killing me these days.

Hi maryblu! I'm taking the new Michael Scott to bed tonight. I haven't read a book in a month.

Nightie night my friends.


Greenville Beth
06-08-2009, 11:20 PM
Weight: .4 lb down

Hello, All. I so am not into the flow of this job yet. We have a production starting this Thursday, so that means I have to stay late (10 pm) tomorrow night to watch a rehearsal, late (10 pm) Wednesday night for the preview, and late (10 pm) for the opening Thursday and the same Friday and Saturday night. Sunday I have to work from about 1 pm until 6 pm. I'm not sure when I'm going to get my exercise in. I've got to figure that out. I also need to figure out a little "me time," so I can spend time on my Beck book and make sure my food is on plan.

So far, I've been on plan. Credit me.

This is going to be a short note. I hope everyone is doing well.

All best,


06-09-2009, 05:43 AM
:welcome: nwamom :welcome:

And, in honor of your first post on 3fatchicks using your new ID, :wel3fc:

06-09-2009, 06:37 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Was entertaining my standard thoughts of why I couldn't go to the gym and then why I should do only half a workout when I remembered falling into the chocolate fountain. Felt I had to go. How's that for a thin silver lining to a debacle, LOL. CREDIT moi for doing every d*rn lunge anyway. (Still hate those things.)

Discovered the P mode on my new camera - Program Mode. You easily shift among the shutter speed/aperture combinations for the reading of the light meter. Neat.

maryblu - Good grief, "What's My Line." That was an interesting show, bet that a new version would be a hit. That's one of the places in my life where I learned that a good liar could fool me. How's your garden coming?

onebyone - Looking forward to a picture of your 500 pound "Giant Atlantic Pumpkin." I suggest you start lifting weights real-soon-now since a fork lift costs a wad of money for one use, LOL. Do you harvest your sunflower seeds or just enjoy their beauty.

My vacation starts in Hong Kong; the remainder isn't finalized. I'll report back for sure.

Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for the virus taking down two PC's. Double Ouch for "chocolate and marshmallows" as coping mechanisms. Can only hope it was quality chocolate, since I don't think there's such a thing a quality marshmallows, LOL. Marshmallows have no reason for existing on planet earth much less in your pantry.

This message typed on Firefox, by an enthusiastic user of square software.

Anne (wndranne) - Yay for doing math instead of Power Point at work. Not surprising that you forgot to eat, LOL.

Kudos for running hard enough to peak your heart rate - that's putting out.

OK, got it that pre-DH weight is not a goal, LOL. You certainly look on the path for the goals you've set.

Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for coming right back here to get your head straight for getting back on plan, even though it's going to be difficult while spending so much time at the hospital (which, for healthy eating, is probably worse than getting stuck at McDonald's, LOL). Is it feasible to bring a cooler with you to be well stocked up on veggies and desirable food?

Wishing your mother the best for healing rapidly and comfortably. Love the thought of her being healed enough to get back in the pool. It just blows my mind that someone else's liver will live happily in her body filtering out the bad stuff. Yay for livers.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - The reality of theater work days is sobering. Yep, I hope you find a way for a little "me time."

Kudos for remaining on plan with that schedule - a good sign for keeping at it.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Good luck on your committee meeting today. Kudos for planning for eating from the cart since that allows you to make a right sized selection. Can you foist the leftovers on someone else? Or bring them home to DH?

Yep, "There seems to be a ratio for me that the more mediocre a dessert is, the more of it I end up eating!" That sure fits my history. It continues to embarrass me that my excess poundage was not built from quality food, but from mediocre stuff. I've come to believe those folks around here who insist that a small serving of quality chocolate satisfies them much more than the massive servings of mediocre stuff.

nwamom - Kudos for a "fresh start with renewed enthusiasm." Will you continue with the Beck Diet solution or move alone to Beck Diet for Life?

Hope you give us a hint for your prior name; curious if I was here then, but certainly Robin (RobinW) and Maryblu were since they've been here forever.

Readers - tip: Every time you measure food at home, look at the portion size. Notice how large it looks compared with your palm or fist. This will help you to better portion other away-from-home eating situations. Also notice texture and color. This will help you to more easily spot the gleam of oil or butter on the vegetables served at restaurants or the overabundance of mayonnaise in tuna, seafood, or chicken salad.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 113

Greenville Beth
06-09-2009, 10:20 AM
Just a hit and run. I'll post more this evening. Anyway, I made my first 5 lb goal today. Woo hoo! I started at 236 and woke up at 231! Next goal: 226. That certainly motivates me to keep on plan and keep exercising.

I hope everyone has a great Beck day.


twilit tera
06-09-2009, 12:40 PM
WI: -1.5
Pain: 0/2/4
Activity: 2

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, water :yay:, :swim: :yay:, shoes :yay:, vitamins :yay:

100% improvement over the weekend. I think I may have packed my BDS book, but I'll go over old blog posts to renew my determination.

Went to physical therapist today with the Methodist network and was evaluated. That was painful. (He joked that he didn't promise I'd feel better when I left today.) Nice guy. Named Scott.

He said that it looked like multiple problems, some in my hip, some in my lower back. He suggested that I not go in for further chiropractic adjustments since it looked like my back was moving too much not too little and adjustments could make the problem worse. He also thinks that the lift could be feeding into the problem. He did some work on my legs to shift the position of my pelvis, and I'll be danged if he didn't reduce the difference in their lengths!

He said that one of my problems was probably arthritis. The other could be bursitis and when I mentioned it, stress injury or tendinosis. Whether tendinosis is present or not makes no difference to my current course of therapy. I'm to ice it several times a day, continue moving in the pool, and do the exercises he gave me (different ones from the last therapist, which were painful to do). The complication is that the work I need to improve my muscle strength is likely to aggravate my arthritis (hence icing and anti-inflammatories). Continue losing weight. Don't do stuff that hurts. Check back in a week.

I've got mixed feelings about ending my appointments with C. On the one hand, the work she's helped us through has reduced my pain and made me more mobile. On the other, it seems to have leveled out there, and I don't know how much of the pain reduction is due to massage (which we're now doing at home) or adjustments. I figure I'll stop going for a while and see if I feel any different.

Robin: My sympathies for your computers. :crossed: for finding new ways to cope.

:welcome: (back) nwamom.

Margaret: Good luck getting control over the food pushing/daily temptations. There's a lot of great stuff in the Beck books for that. I find that the best approach is simple, non-accusing honesty: "Thanks, but that really doesn't fit into my diet plans right now. I'd rather not have those cookies, but I appreciate the thought."

onebyone: :woo: for spring planting! Thanks for the encouragement.

maryblu: Lots on my plate? In more ways than one! :lol: But I'm feeling much better now. I didn't get to go visit mom yesterday, since I was going to be riding in with my aunt, who seems to have become the next cold victim. I'm hoping to get there tonight after my appointment with C.

Beth: It's only natural to be a little out of sorts when you're adjusting to a new job. Give yourself time. In a month or so, you'll be doing much better, and as you get through each season in your new career you'll understand it better for next year. :woohoo: for hitting your first 5lb goal!!

Bill: :yay: for the self-discipline that got you through detested lunges.

Yep. The liver is a remarkable organ. What's really amazing is the thought that half a liver will do the work Mom needs to live. This is a really difficult, painful, icky process, but it's so much better than the alternative. This way she goes through the worst early, then gets better and lives a longer, happier life. The other she'd just keep getting gradually sicker til she stopped. She's no happy camper right now, but at least it's going to improve!

06-09-2009, 02:02 PM
We had 5 houseguests for the weekend, so it was just too busy to get in here and post. The last of the Mohicans left this AM, so I’ll be trying to catch up today. The weather was perfect and we had a wonderful time with everyone. My brother’s girls have fished here for years and have never caught anything (even though our lake is stuffed with fish). This weekend was something though – they caught a fish everytime they put their line in the water. You couldn’t keep the two of them from the water’s edge from Saturday AM until they left Sunday evening. The rest of us had fun too, lots of exercise (planned and spontaneous) as well as healthy food.

WI-down 1 lb from Friday. :yay: I didn’t read my cards or make a plan but I did pretty well. Over 4 days I was over my usual calorie max by a total of 400 calories. Credit moi! Even better, I made a card for my social drinking issue. It worked! I drank exactly what I planned. Credit!! I’ll be making a couple of those and putting them in my pocket when I travel or when I have company here.

Fatigue was really tough this weekend. I was much more tired than usual, 3 – 4.5 from Fri to Sun (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). I did go kayaking (30 mins with very light paddling) and it really exhausted me. I got out of the kayak and went to bed. I felt back to normal about 20 hrs later. Oh well… I’m adding kayaking to my list of things to do more of so I have control of my life instead of my thyroid having the control… Credit moi!

I’ll do some personals now and will catch up with everyone else tonight.

Tera ‘ when [Mom] was awake, she was truly present – that’s wonderful!! I hope she is doing better day-by-day!

Re activity level / pain connection. I guess it’s not surprising, but really too bad… :( Very interesting stuff from the new physical therapist. I hope that his plan will get you back on the track to good health. :crossed: Your plan about the C sounds very reasonable too…

Credit for op Thurs, and for being back in the groove today!! I think it’s realistic to ‘plan’ to flexibly make reasonable choices. I hope it helped you get through the rest of the weekend. :)

Thanks for the cheerleaders – they make a difference!

06-09-2009, 04:40 PM
A quick note to say that I had my meeting, and while I did eat more than I had planned, I ate less than half of what I had the last meeting, and I sent all the leftover cookies with my supervisor, who was very pleased to take them. . .:)

06-09-2009, 05:33 PM
Marshmallows have no reason for existing on planet earth much less in your pantry.
Do you really think they made it to the pantry?? Especially the toasted coconut covered ones :rolleyes: Heaven help me!

Just a really quick one to let you all know Im still here, and still struggling thru.

Im not going to just elevates everything that doesnt need to get elevated any more than it is. pc is "ok" home pc is still at the dr's, hubs is showing the blue screen of he needs a new one.

Food....still with the wine and marshmallows....stress eating! I struggle with this one all the time. But I am not going to beat myself up over it....I know it will pass. I just need to move it along :lol:

Exercise...none (still)

New step grandbaby....played tricks on its mom, false labour today. So we think little baby W will be here soon!

Thats it for me, Im off to start on the next "pile" of stuff that needs to get done NOW :lol: at least that's how the customers put it.

Im looking for suggestions on good books Re: Stress & Eating. What have you read lately that you might suggest.

Have a great evening everyone!

06-09-2009, 09:58 PM
I read my cards this AM and made a plan. But we realized we had leftovers from the weekend, although each was not quite enough for 1 person to make a meal out of. So we ate a leftover smorgasbord tonight rather than making something brand new. But based on calories I’m op and Exercise was op too. Credit!

Fatigue 3.5 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

Anne I loved the ‘donuts are not about me’ Credit! Sounds like you had a nice weekend overall. But sorry about the not-so-great run. Kudos for doing it when it’s so hot!

Bill Although you are certainly as empathetic as any Supreme Court nominee, I doubt you went for the croissant because of dedication to improving the customer relationship. LOL – but good rationalization there! Eating a croissant to martyr yourself for you company!! No, I have to think I’m to blame with my talk of gluten-gluttony and, thus, feeding your fantasies of Parisian baguettes. ;) But you’re on your own with the chocolate fountain. Glad you got a chance to meet some new folks, and chat with some old friends. And for doing the gym to make up for it – now that’s thinking like a thin person!

Baby Downy chasing Mommy – wow!

Vacation for 3 weeks? I miss you already!

one by one Credit for ‘keeping on’ and :crossed: for ‘getting it back again soon. LOL for DHs weight loss program! And wow – the gardening sounds like it was a marathon exercise binge – credit!

Beth :woohoo: hitting your 1st mini-goal! :woohoo:

Glad you got to your opening – but how was it?

Credit for the plan to reread the 1st 15 days of your book! Credit for the yardwork too! I keep my eye on the overall graph of my weight loss, and it helps me with the slow pace because I can see the big picture is good. I agree the daily planning is a big help to stick to the program.

Nuxmaga Ouch for the 2 ‘not very satisfying baked goods. Double ouch for cookies – food pushing through FB. It really is a new world! Lol Credit for keeping in mind Beck’s notion that mistakes are normal. :)

Kudos for eating much less than you might have otherwise. And brilliant plan to give the cookies to your supervisor!

Robin Ouch for having TWO computers felled by a virus! Or is it THREE! Marshmallows, chocolate and wine – interesting combo! :D Are you sure 2 bottles of wine is sufficient for these kinds of computer woes? I hope the computers get fit and healthy again soon – I know your business can’t really run without them. Hang in there, your attitude is great. And things will get better…

nwamom :welcome2: I’ve only been on the thread for 6 months or so, so we haven’t met. From your name, can I assume you work for NorthWest?

06-09-2009, 10:23 PM
Hi Coaches

First: credit moi for eating breakfast, skipping movie pop and popcorn, walking over to the transit station to catch my bus=extra walking, and for getting through my grad meeting. Lordy it was tough today. Nitpicky details abound. Argh. I could barely deal with it all. I'll add a credit for keeping it together during the meeting.

ChinaMaine kudos for staying on plan re: leftover smorgasbord!

RobinW :hug: for the stress eating. Been there and do that still too.
And yes, it does pass. I too am searching for books to read. I just ordered Volumetrics off of ebay... looking forward to it.

Nuxmaga kudos on your success!

twilit tera Kudosn on your persistent insistence that you will be well and healthy and as painfree as you can be. it sounds like you are on to the next level of healing here with this new health practitioner. Good Luck! All the best to your mom...

Greenville Beth :carrot: -5lbs :carrot:

Billblueeyes Hong Kong really? Really???! Methinks I'll buold up to deadlifting the 500lb pumpkin as the season progresses. I'll just lift it every other day or so and keep building those muscles that way. By the time it gets to 500lbs I should be able to lift it too eh? right??
Actually I secretly hope it's big enough that my friend's young boys could sit in it...crossing my fngers for that, of course first it has to germinate and then we need some sun...

Coaches After the grad ceremony and our Duty is fulfilled I am going out to some bar and ordering something martini-like (I picture the glass as being a martini glass) in the colour blue. And since I never drink, can anyone tell me what might fit the bill?

06-09-2009, 10:25 PM
I'm tempted into getting this book. Is it worth it? Does it help?

Greenville Beth
06-09-2009, 10:35 PM
Today's Weight: 1.2 lbs down

I have to admit, I haven't read my Beck book the last couple of days due to being so busy, but I have been following the lessons so far. The last two days I have been working on not cleaning my plate when I feel full before finishing my meal. I don't belong to the clean plate club, but when I am dieting and eatting much less than normal, it is hard not to eat everything I have on my plate because I know I will be hungry later.

I find, lately, that I am feeling full before I finish even though my meals are small. I have been leaving small amounts even though I want to eat all of it. Credit me!

I also went for my walk today even though I worked. Major credit. I think, I should be able to get a walk in before work tomorrow.

I have a couple of difficult days ahead of me. Tomorrow night is the preview for the new show and Thursday is the opening. Both nights include a party with a ton of food brought in by some really nice restaurants. I will be working long hours both nights. I am going to have to be so careful with all that yummy food around.

I am going to write a couple of response cards tonight to have in my pocket. My plan...for all to to not eat one single bite of anything either night. I fear if I take a bite of something, even something healthy, it will lead to more eating. I will take my dinner and snack with me and leave the danger food alone competely.

I'll let you know how it goes.

ChinaMaine - Credit for making a plan. It has really been helping me write down what I can eat the next day. It sounds like you were really busy this weekend with all of your guests. Great job staying so close to plan.

The opening was good. I left early. I need to get over there sometime before work this week and take pictures and see if they sold anything. Hopefully they did!

Margaret - Eating less is certainly a great step in the right direction. Small steps, you know? It's diffiuclt to not eat when food is piled in front of you. Give yourself credit.

Tera - I hope your new PT can help you with the pain. You're down 1.5 lbs, that's great. Does the swimming help with the pain and mobility?

You're right, any new job is taxing when you're just starting. I knew what I was getting into, so none of this is a surprise. I'm just being a big baby. In a month from now, I'm sure I'll be enjoying it.

Nwamom - Welcome back. :)

Bill - As someone else said, going to the gym to off-set the chocolate fountain was great thin thinking. Credit. I'm with you, I hate lunges as well. I figure, they must be good for the body if they are so hated. My old personal trainer used to make me do them the length of the gym and back with weights. The gym used to be a Best Buy, so you can imagine how many lunges that was. Yikes.

Theatre work days are crazy. As I said above, I did know what I was getting myself into. Actually, the actors / director / tech people have much longer hours. I'm just a big baby.

You said you're starting your vacation in Hong Kong, I think. That's cool. I haven't been there, but I did spend a month in Korea.

RobinW - Yeah, wine and marshmallows are kind of an odd combo, but then I don't like either of them. Keep putting one foot in front of the other. You'll get to where you need to be. :)

Onebyone - Thanks! It sounds like you're coming to the end of your school stress. That's a good thing! That's some big pumpkin you're going to grow! Good luck with that.

All best,


06-09-2009, 10:53 PM
On plan. Doing great. Tired. :wave:


06-10-2009, 07:29 AM
:welcome: Daimere :welcome:

I'm tempted into getting this book. Is it worth it? Does it help?

Yes, the use of Cognitive Therapy strategies by Dr. Judith Beck in both of her books has helped me to stay the course keeping 81 pounds off for over three years. Definitely worth it.

Within our chatter you can read how each one of us is using some part of the Beck strategies to stay on our food plan and on our exercise plan. Even posting here is part of that plan, using each other as Diet Buddies (Diet Coaches in the first book).

Give it a try, and let us know what you think. Join in. It can make a difference.

06-10-2009, 08:11 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Lunch was my rosemary vinaigrette white beans with grape tomatoes which I dearly love. Made it with too much red onion, which is just the right amount for me, LOL. CREDIT moi for continuing to make my lunches.

Inserted the 16GigaByte memory card in my camera - kinda boggling. Now I can take a gazillion pictures.

onebyone - Love your plan to lift your "Giant Atlantic Pumpkin" as it grows toward 500 pounds to build up your strength. Now that's thinking ahead. I even think Beck has a chapter about such scale of optimistic projections, but I recommend that you don't read it; just lift away. Reality might be just right sized.

Yep, Kudos for breakfast, skipping movie temptations, ordering Volumetrics, and extra walking. But BIGGEST Kudos for keeping it together during the meeting - you've come too far to blow it away by skewering people at the end.

Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for all that stress at work for the stuff needed NOW!!!!! Kudos for coming back here to keep in touch even as you figure out a way to back away from the wine and marshmallows.

Sending supportive thoughts for the entrance to the real world by your step grandbaby.

Anne (wndranne) - Waving back. Yay for tired from exercise.

Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for all that activity, but biggest Kudos for continuing to pursue a solution to your condition. Seems like a complex message from Scott - I wish you luck in figuring out the right solution for yourself. And Kudos to your DH for continuing to do the massages for you.

Hope your mother continues to heal.

ChinaMaine - Ouch for the serious fatigue; Kudos for continuing your life with house guests anyway. And Congrats on the reduced scale readings throughout it all.

LOL at the two girls fishing non stop for two days; not that's a good way to spend one's youth.

Thank you for accepting responsibility for my croissant consumption. No question in my mind that you're to blame, LOL. You might want to jump on-board having Beth (Greenville Beth) consume some real Parisian pastry on your behalf; just place your order, I'm sure she can find a way to consume a little extra for her friends.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Congrats on meeting your five pound goal. What reward do you plan for yourself?

Kudos for working on stopping eating when satisfied instead of the old "cleaning the plate club." Methinks that's the best part of Intuitive Eating. And Kudos for continuing your exercise despite the super busy.

Sending supportive thoughts for you two evenings of abundant food. Those situations are difficult for me. Hope your plan works for you.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - What a win!!! Kudos for eating half of last time; kudos for sending the cookies away; and BIG Kudos for sending them away with your supervisor - what a sneaky way to get points, LOL.

Readers - tip: If you eat lunch at your desk, take some time to better organize your eating environment. Like a cluttered kitchen, a messy workspace loaded with books, papers, and reports can distract you and decrease your eating satisfaction.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 116

twilit tera
06-10-2009, 09:26 AM
WI: -.5
Pain: 0/3/8

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, water :yay:, shoes :yay:, batch of crustless quiche :yay:, PT and C visits :yay: :yay:, forcefully turning my attention away from sale-priced Reese's pb cups (NO CHOICE) :yay:, forcefully restricting my choc covered strawberry consumption to fit my calorie allowance (NO CHOICE) :yay:

I told C what Scott had said about adjustments being the opposite of what I needed and removing the lift. She said that it was entirely up to me how to proceed. She said that Chiropractors and PTs are different specialties, so they're really there handling different things. Dr. Pierce, who supervises her, was concerned mostly about the heel lift. I have to ask Scott some questions about my exercise, and I'll mention the doc's concern.

I was hoping to get down to see Mom last night, but the chiro visit ran pretty long. Hopefully I'll get there this afternoon.

ChinaMaine: :woo: for an awsome weekend! :yay: for response card success! :yay: for keeping leftover smorgasbord within calorie allottment!

Maybe nwamom's name means she's an oldschool gangsta rap fan? ;) Now I'm curious. :D

Margaret: :woohoo: for finding an outlet for meeting snack leftovers! :yay: for eating less than the previous meeting. (recommendation: make a card to remind yourself that you do have power over food decisions with those victories as the example!)

Robin: Hang in there. I wish I had recommendations for you. I like marshmelllows, but I don't buy them any more. The next time I have an opportunity to make s'mores in a true old-fashioned cookout, I will, but not for general consumption.

Daimere: You came to the right place to ask! There are several posters here who are living testaments to the validity of the Beck strategies. This is the first book I've ever seen that addresses at length the psychological challenges of changing our diet and exercise habits. They've made a world of difference to me.

Ultimately, any book you get is only as much use as you make of it, but if you actually do these exercises, I'm certain you'll be more successful at your efforts. (None of them are particularly painful, when it comes right to it.) The interesting thing about the Beck programs is that they help you make better use of all the other weight loss information out there. If you still wonder if it will work for you, maybe it would help to read over our thread archives a bit? I also welcome you to keep checking in here and post any specific questions you have. :)

Good luck!

Beth: :yay: for leaving food on your plate and going for your walk during a hectic time! Huge wonkin' :yay: for planning ahead and making response cards for the situation at work!

Water activities are great for me because they take the strain of gravity off. I feel a lot less pain and can actually get a pretty good pace going. After about 30 minutes, if I really push, the joints will start to ache a bit, but moving them is good for them... slows down degeneration is what I hear.

With all the talk of gravity, as you can imagine, one of the advantages on my ARC is to experience less pain and more mobility. Getting in the water also helps me burn calories, which will help me get more fit, which will mean carrying less weight on these poor joints even outside the pool! Hence less pain all the time! (or so goes the theory. I aim to really put it to the test!) ;)

:p Expressing your difficulties on the new job is not being a big baby! You're free to complain all you want (if it helps) but sometimes a little perspective helps too. That way you can complain and comfort yourself that a day is coming when you'll have entirely new things to complain about. ;)

Anne: :wave: :yay: you!

Bill: I love the way your posts start with a tidbit of foodporn. :drool: white beans and red onions!! I hope you had a mint handy.

The best part of large memory card in your camera? Taking lots of bad pictures you can delete afterward. Professional photographers know that it's a numbers game. When the action is happening, the more shots you get, the more likely (at least) one of them will be a real masterpiece. Enjoy!

06-10-2009, 12:40 PM
When it rains it pours right? I am one of those ppl who believes everything happens in 3's...and it happens for a reason.

1. Really bad fall
2. Computers
3. Hospital visit last night for ingesting nuts I have no idea what food they were in. They must have been ground and well hidden.

Ok universe, Im done! I did my three....and its time to get back to normal.

Actually had my first ambulance ride last night!! They got me to the hospital, pumped me full of stuff....and I went home about 2 hrs later.

I dont remember much about the rescue crew, but hubs said the firemen dive bombed over the bed to get to me (I was on the floor) I couldnt believe how smokey they smelled. I need to wash the boot print off my duvet cover :lol: Can I say I had sexy firmen in my bedroom?!?!?!?!?...and on my bed no less! :lol: Now if I could just remember it :rolleyes: :lol3:

Anyway....all is good and Im almost back to normal.

This may be the universe's way of scaring me back to eating properly. Im not even thinking about things I shouldnt be eating.

Scared is putting it mildly....I dont want to ever have to go thru something like that for obese related issues. Ive been crying off and on all morning....but I think its good. I need to remember how this all felt, how scared I was, and how much I dont want to be an obesity statistic.


Good news!!! Im a new step-grandma!! They went back to the hospital at 6pm, the baby was born just before 8!! Can you believe that?!! Hubs has just left to go see here, while I sit here at the shop with orders to do nothing. (ya right) :lol:

More Good News!! Did anyone see this? It is a workshop in september...and Im thinking I just might like to go and take a mini vacation and go to this.

:wave: to all the new folks!

Have a great day everyone....Im off to fill up my water glass :D

06-10-2009, 04:41 PM
Hello Everyone,
I had afternoon tea with a friend--eeeek! But I got jasmine tea that I can drink without cream & sugar, and my husband said to bring him a couple items, so I didn't eat everything. But of course the friend(who is 85 and used to volunteer for me), brought me chocolate. I ate two and put the rest in the freezer. Credit for not eating it all. I'm still adapting to Beck's idea that everything counts, there's no calorie exemption for a couple sugar cubes or a bite of this or that.

RobinW--so sorry to hear about the hospital visit, and the fall. I fell a couple months ago, and it shook me up quite a bit. I did read about the Beck workshop in September, and am tempted to go. As for books on stress and eating, I do really like Jon Kabat-Zinn's "The Full Catastrophe" on mindfulness--it helped me a lot in dealing with stress.

twilit tera--congrats on refusing to buy pb cups--that's a tough one for me!! Making a card with my victories on it sounds like a good idea. Oh, my mother said my stepfather has Non-alcoholic Steatic Hepatitis, and is now officially on a liver transplant list. Hope your Mom is doing well.

Bill--The white beans sound fabulous!! Making lunches for myself is definitely a way for me to keep on track, and if I made myself something that yummy, it would be even better.

GreenvilleBeth--credit for leaving small amounts of food on your plate! I always want to eat every last crumb and have been known to spoon up dressing or sauce so my plate is bare. Good luck with the food at the openings--if for some reason you do take a bite, play with the idea that you don't have to take another one.

onebyone--getting through a grad meeting deserves double credit.

ChinaMarie--making a card for social drinking sounds like very helpful idea!

Hope everyone is well.

06-10-2009, 08:27 PM
Thank you!

Which book is worth buying? There is The Beck Diet Solution: Train Your Brain to Think Like a Thin Person , the workbook and the Complete Beck Diet for Life? What is the difference between the two books. Has anyone used the workbook?

06-10-2009, 10:23 PM
WI-down 0.4 lbs to New Low! And I’ve hit a new milestone – my weight is below 180 lbs! :woohoo:

:df: Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.7 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

We're in the middle of figuring out how to make ends meet while DH is on unemployment. Yikes... Oh well, we'll be working every night this week on finances until we see how it ends up...

one by one Credit for reasonable choices (extra walking, movie sans the bad stuff)! Ugggh for the grad meeting. Hmmmm – about martinis I’m not fan I’m afraid, so I can’t give you any help there.

Damiere The book has definitely been helpful for me. It’s a cognitive approach; the book teaches you to skills that help you replace ‘bad/sabotaging’ thoughts with healthy ones. The kind of thoughts a thin person has every day. In the second book there’s a diet included, but the core of the program is to change how you think, and because of your changed thinking: change how you behave.

For example, my 2 major hindrances to losing weight were (1) grazing from dinnertime to bedtime and (2) not exercising enough. Beck’s method has helped me to change my thinking so that I have 1 planned snack after dinner and I exercise 45 minutes a day.

I started Beck in mid-January and have lost 22 lbs since then. So for me, this has been well worth it!

I’ve only used the second book (Think Like a Thin Person), and I’d highly recommend it. I haven’t used the 1st book, or the work book that goes with it, so I can’t tell you which I think is better.

Beth It’s nice that you’re full before finishing. Good luck with your plan for tonight and tomorrow. Credit for coming up with a reasonable plan, along with the RC!

Anne :wave:

Bill lol – So I was saying that I was to blame for fueling a fantasy for eating warm, crusty Parisian baguettes. (While walking down the street to your hotel, mind you…) Which was, to my mind, the likely catalyst for eating the croissant. But you certainly know better than I!

Tera Sorry your pain is so elevated – the visit to the chiro I assume? Kudos for the weight loss. Credit for NO CHOICE!

We’ll have to ask nwamom about her standing in the gangsta rap scene….

Robin :hug: OMG :hug: Are you allergic to nuts? I’m so sorry it’s made you so sad/scared. It’s true, sometimes we can be scared straight. But yikes!! Do you mind me asking why you say the experience was ‘obesity related’? BTW – how’s DH doing? It must have frightened him as well, and he can probably remember the entire experience too… ;)

Congratulations on being a grandma! I did see the ad for the Beck Workshop in Philly. It’d be fun if a bunch of went – huh?

Margaret Credit for freezing food! Glad you made your tea with a good friend work for you. :)

06-10-2009, 10:31 PM
In the second book there’s a diet included, but the core of the program is to change how you think, and because of your changed thinking: change how you behave.
Thank you so much! I know which one to get since I don't need a diet plan. I want mental stuff to help me with my eating plan that I already have.

Thank you everyone. I had my boyfriend pick it up from the library. Hopefully, I can buy it soon.

06-11-2009, 06:19 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Breakfast is such a luxury when peaches, strawberries, AND blueberries are all available (as well as banana) to add to my granola. Yay that simple foods feel like the good life. CREDIT moi for being aware.

Felt like gym was a place that I'd never been to before. Then I realized that because I was there an hour earlier than usual the crowd was all different people and that I've come to find comfort in recognizing the regulars during my time slot. CREDIT moi for doing lunges in front of strangers.

ETA: Just updated my signature line by one month. CREDIT moi for the simple act of staying the course.

Robin (RobinW) - Good grief!! My heart is pounding just reading about your nut reaction. Congrats on such a rapid recovery. Yep, three things on top of each other seems like enough.

Congrats for having sexy firemen in your bed while your DH watched; sounds a bit kinky for my taste, but whatever floats your boat. And Congrats for being a grandma. You now face the challenge of spoiling a little kid without using sugar stuff.

Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for using NO CHOICE on tempting foods. Double Kudos for applying it to sale-priced peanut butter cups. Part of health care reform oughta be outlawing sales on junk food, LOL.

Ouch that your average pain seems to have crept up a bit. Hope that settles back down for you.

Sending healing thoughts for you mom. Hope all is going well with her.

ChinaMaine - Congrats for the new milestone in your scale readings. And Yay for the slight easing of your fatigue level.

But Big Kudos for facing your immediate financial situation by planning. Methinks Beck would admire that; she would do well to add a chapter in her books about making a financial plan since money is a great source of stress and stress is a great motivator for overeating.

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for stopping at two chocolates as well as for your awareness to count all your calories, even the incidental ones.

I know about that scooping up the sauces from my plate; that was a hard one for me to give up.

Daimere - Re which Beck: my take is that either works well. Both lay out her strategies for using Cognitive Therapy to remain on plan for eating and exercise. I used the first book, specifically loving that it didn't include a diet plan. And Yep, one poster here uses the workbook alone; it's published as a companion to the first book. You can read a review of each by Anne (wndranne) in the Maintenance Library section: The Beck Diet Solution ( and The Complete Beck Diet for Life ( In the second review, she compares the two.

Readers - tip: Many dieters find it useful to prepare some (or all) parts of their lunch ahead of time. For example, as soon as he returns home from the supermarket, Will immediately divides his big bag of baby carrots into individual portions to take with him as part of lunch each workday.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 117

06-11-2009, 11:10 AM
Good Morning :sunny:

Im feeling a bit more like myself today. Still really really weepy, but I guess that is just my body and mind's way of dealing with things.

ChinaMaine~ it isnt obesity related, but that is where I see myself going next if I dont fix it. Scaring myself like that with something that I couldnt control. My weight I can control, and I dont ever want to have to go thru something like that because I refuse to take care of myself. Does that make sense?

Bill~ "Breakfast is such a luxury when peaches, strawberries, AND blueberries are all available (as well as banana) to add to my granola" I love this time of year! I even indulged in a some early cherries yesterday!
Big Kudos for doing lunges infront of strangers!!
As for the firemen....I just wish I could remember what they looked like :lol:

........I have to switch pages...brb

twilit tera
06-11-2009, 11:19 AM
WI: steady
Pain: 1/4/6
Activity: 2

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, PT :yay: :yay:, ice :yay: :yay: :yay:, shoes :yay:, eating fewer than allotted number of choc covered strawberries at lunch when hunger was satisfied :yay:

I'm at the hospital today. I couldn't get here yesterday or the day before, so today I asked B to drop me off here before work and pick me up after, assuming I don't find a ride home with someone else. He very sweetly agreed, even though there is a monsoon out there and the hospital was thirty minutes in the opposite direction of work. We avoided all the highways, which according to the radio was a very good idea.

I packed my lunch (with a nod to Bill) and have my laptop to count my calories in fitday (and post here of course). Very good start to an unusual day. I will be so on plan today!

Mom was asleep when I arrived, and is asleep now. We chatted a bit in between after the docs woke her up. Her heartburn and nausea is better than it was, but she's vulnerable to infection thanks to the anti-rejection drugs, so they're planning to do an endoscopy and see if there's a problem.

Robin: I love the way you flavor your emergency experience with humor! I hope it offsets the distress you've felt.

Congratulations, Grandma (steps count)! You're on the rollercoaster, not the merry go round.

Margaret: Sending healthy thoughts and wishes for a speedy trip through the list to your stepdad's liver transplant.

Food should always be yummy. I decided before I ever started this that I would never put anything repulsive in my mouth "because it's healthy". One of the ways I motivate myself away from succumbing to bad food temptation, is by looking forward to the good food I'm planning to eat later.

Daimere: I love that The Beck Diet Solution, was written to accompany any diet plan. For me it was the missing link that connected me to my weight loss goals. I had all the information I needed about diet and exercise... what I needed was a way to train my mind. :yay: for adding BDS to your mental toolbox.

ChinaMaine: :woohoo: New low! :yay: for OP-ness!

As for explaining the pain, I did physical therapist eval and my final(?) chiro visit in the same day. I'm still recovering.

Bill: :yay: for enjoying simple foods and lunging.

Speaking of health reform, I just saw on GMA that the American Restaurant Association is on board with changing laws to have national restaurant chains put calorie and macronutrient info on menus! I've been wanting that... well, since I started trying to eat responsibly. Ooh, they've got more info on their page at

06-11-2009, 11:22 AM
...Im just going to start a new post
(Im not firing on all cylinders just yet)

ChinaMaine~ dh is doing good. Seems he really hurt his hand when he tried to catch me. But he did good, I certainly didnt like seeing his face at the door of the ambulance. kwim?

I am going to seriously think about going to philly for the workshop. Its not that far, and its far enough in the future I can plan around it. Might make a nice get away for dh and I. Yes it would be cool if a bunch of us went. Hey!! I'll make t-shirts for us all! Seriously!

Daimere~ I prefer the first book and the workbook. That's where I would start. Then move onto the 2nd book. The 2nd book has a diet plan in it, but since I know what works for me I didnt find it useful. Mind you some of the new text was good. But I still preferred the first book. The workbook is great, it helped keep me on track and doing things the right way. :welcome3: to the group!!

Margaret~ Thankyou for the book suggestion. Im going to drag hubs to the book store soon to go check it out. Kudos for getting the rest of the chocolate put into the freezer and not eating all of it! Thats wonderful!

Tera~ Big Kudos for your "No Choice" choices!!

:wave: to everyone!

Things have been busy...can you believe I was in the hospital stressing about getting out so I could get some sleep so I could get back here and get the print jobs done that needed doing?! *sigh*

One day at a time....

Have a great day everyone!

06-11-2009, 05:19 PM
Off to my 17th anniversary dinner with husband, and jazz concert. I've scoped out the menu. Celebrations increase my desire to eat more. . .

06-11-2009, 11:55 PM

Greenville Beth
06-12-2009, 01:39 AM
Hello, All.

This is just a quick one. I doubt I'll be able to do personals and such until Saturday. I just got home about midnight. Makes for a long 13 hour day and I have to be back in less than 12 hours.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that I got through both nights without eating one single thing. Yeah me. Credit. I mean there was thousands of dollars of food there. From what I'm told it was pretty amazing food too. It smelled good that's for sure.

I was rewarded on the scale for not eating. I'm down another 1.4 lbs. I'm at 230.0 which is exciting. I'm hoping to be in the 220's in the morning.

Hope everyone is well. I'll check in with more detail on Saturday.

Sweet dreams.


06-12-2009, 07:38 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Am out of town for two days to attend a funeral with a five hour drive each way. Spent the first drive eating baby carrots to keep my mind away from snacking on crackers and stuff. Arrived at a big family buffet feeling hungry at 8:30pm without having had a proper afternoon snack so I snarfed up shrimp and crab claws as if I'd never seen seafood before. Wasn't pretty. Seems that once I've got myself way out off plan, I'm just adrift. Oh Well. It could have been worse, I suppose; there was roast beef and rice pudding and all the other kind of stuff that kindly folks send when someone dies. CREDIT moi for turning down candy - even one little piece - both on the drive and at the buffet. And CREDIT moi for searching long enough to find something to take credit for.

Will go to the hotel's gym this morning to get my head back on plan. Today should be easier since the major eating diversion is a trip to a restaurant. I plan to order a reasonable meal.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for feeling more yourself again. And Yay for early cherries, as well as seasonal cherries, and late cherries, LOL.

Hope you do the September Beck workshop; I'd love to hear the report. My hope is that she'd be inspirational in person.

Anne (wndranne) - Waving back. Hope the sugar buzz has subsided.

Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for limiting those chocolate covered strawberries, and Kudos to your DH for driving 30 miles out of his way in the monsoon. But Biggest Kudos to you for attacking the hospital visit with a plan and a lunch.

Ouch that your average pain level still seems to be creeping up. I do hope that's just due to the unusual activity associated with visiting your mother.

Thanks for that link concerning chain restaurant menus. The restaurant association seems to support a kind of choice that would allow them to hide the info in electronic kiosks or posters. Not clear to me that a single kiosk at the front of the store will have the same impact as info on a menu in my hands while I'm deciding my order.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Monster Kudos for going two days ignoring buffets of FREE food using No Choice. I'll use that as the Beck quote of the day to remind myself that if you can do it, I can do it also.

Ouch for 13 hour days. If your were younger, child labor laws would protect you. Did the performance go well?

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Happy Anniversary. Seventeen years is a right long time.

Readers - No Choice

The Beck Diet Solution

06-12-2009, 10:36 AM
WI-down 0.75 lbs (new low)

:df: Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue 3.0 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). The only downside today was my lack of concentration and mental acuity…

All in all it was a good day in spite of the fatigue. DH is sticking to his plan to get up at his normal time and putting in a day of ‘work’. He sent out a number of resumes, contacted some old colleagues, and began contacting the companies about our monthly bills - to reduce them each as much as is possible. This is amazing since losing his job has coincided with his Mom’s health suddenly going downhill. I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it, but she was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer last year. She has outlived her doctor’s prognosis by 50% already, and her quality of life has been excellent. Until recently you would never have guessed she had cancer. In the last 2-3 weeks that’s changed and the doctor has recommended putting oxygen in her house. DH is sporadically verklempt, as you can imagine…

I was too tired to post last night - so I'll try to catch up on personals over lunch. But I'm also making Tabbouleh for the weekend then, so I may over-committing myself. :dizzy:

06-12-2009, 12:26 PM
Good Morning

ChinaMaine~ Kudos to your hubby for still getting up and putting in a days work. Im sorry to hear about your mil. My mil was similar with her cancer, she outlived the dr's prognosis by over 8yrs!

Bill~ Kudos for finding something to give yourself credit for!!

Beth~ :cb: for being down on the scale!!

Nuxmaga~ Happy Anniversary! I hope you had a nice time :)

Anne~ :wave:

Tera~ how is your mom today?


Me....Im doing ok. Im feeling pretty much back to normal. Hubs is very stressed out....between the pc virus bill, and the cost of another pc for him, and the emergency room bill....he's needing some calgon! I'm picking up the slack for him. These bills aren't bothering me. They'll get paid, business is good and we are all healthy. :)

Life is good.....even if it is expensive :lol:

Have an awesome day everyone! (oh! Im going back to the gym tomorrow!) :cb:

06-12-2009, 12:47 PM
Thanks for the anniversary greetings. We had a good time. Credit for not eating a piece of pie that was complete dreck. Credit for asking for green beans rather than fries(with some help from dh). The Jazz was great.

Tomorrow is a potluck picnic. I'm bringing a black bean and corn salad. I need a strategy for dealing with the rest of the food and drink--at the minimum I want to sit far away from the table.

ChinaMarie--Credit for making a food plan--I'm still resisting that. Tabbouleh is great:)

RobinW--hope you have a good gym visit tomorrow!

GreenvilleBeth--Yay for turning down the free food!!!! That's a big accomplishment.

twilit tera--Credit for packing your lunch and bringing your laptop to log into fitday!

06-12-2009, 01:59 PM
After making the Tabbouleh, I only had time for one personal. I'll get to the rest later today... :wave:

Robin Re your recent experience and obesity – I can totally understand your reaction. I too am very concerned about the health risks of being obese. I don’t know if this helps, but I’ve read that daily exercise of 30 mins or more can reduce a lot of health risks, even if you are obese. Of course, being a healthy weight is very important. But you can start exercising daily at any time; going from obese to normal weight is going to take months, or more. So, saying no choice to skipping exercise would be one place to start… (just a thought :))

Re Beck/Philly – yes it would be fun, and it’d be good to hear the information. But with DH having lost his job, I probably can’t plan any pleasure trips until he’s working again. (except to visit his mom of course…) But, if you go, I’ll be very interested in your posts – and would love to buy a t-shirt!

Tell DH I wish him the best. I understand his money anxiety – I get the job of worrying about money in our house. :D But I’m glad you are feeling better!

06-12-2009, 11:35 PM
Coaches/Buddies Plan was weird today with a long bike, almost 2 hrs, and some extra food to fill in some calorie gaps. But I pretty much did it. Tomorrow is a rest day. I need it. I'll be chasing children though.

Found a great blog entry on CNN today. Linked here here (***-deal/).

I feel like a slacker not doing personals two days in a row, but my brain is fried. Sending happy thoughts to everyone and thanks for being here.


PS. Well, I can't seem to save the link title correctly because it has a 3 letter word for backside in it. But if you replace the three ***s when you go there with the three letter word, starting with a and ending with s, it works. Written by the woman who brought us, My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Funny and insightful.

06-13-2009, 06:18 AM
Friday was a pretty boring day. Exercise, work, watch a movie (with food breaks sprinkled in). Beck is right, when you practice for a while, dieting skills do become easier and easier. :)

The sun is rising right now. It’s gorgeous. Fog is rising off the lake, and the sunlight is creating a beautiful glow. A few minutes ago it was a warm yellow, and now the light is lavender. I need to get back to bed and try to get a couple more hours of sleep. Have a good day!

:df: WI-down 0.25 lbs (new low) Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue 2.0 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

Bill CREDIT for 2 yrs 3 months at maintenance – a role model in the best sense! Kudos for doing lunges in front of strangers. Re financial planning – yeah we’ve been through this kind of thing before without planning, and the financial results were definitely not pretty. So planning is a must.

I’m terribly sorry you have to attend a funeral.
- Aren’t there like 25 calories per 4 ounces of shrimp (or something)? ;) So maybe snarfing a bunch of shrimp and crab (high protein!) was a good idea… Credit for planning to go to the gym to get your head back op.

Tera Sorry about the elevated pain levels. Credit for eating fewer chocolate covered strawberries than you’d planned. It’s nice you got to spend the day with your Mom. Hopefully the EGD will show that there’s nothing to be concerned about.
Thanks for the link on restaurant nutritional info.

Beth Credit for not eating any food at your events! Kudos for the weight loss and :crossed: for being in the 220s soon!

Margaret Credit for choosing green beans over French fries.

Anne :wave: Credit for staying op (with gap-filling) in spite of long bike ride. Hope you enjoy your rest day, and chasing children. Thanks for the blog link – it was insightful. :)

06-13-2009, 06:57 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did gym at the upscale health club across the street from my hotel; CREDIT moi. Since my Ballys gym is bare bones, it was a pleasure to be greeted by a bright young thing handing me a towel. And the paneled lockers in the "members" carpeted locker room looked spiffy as did the sign that said that if they found a lock on a locker that wasn't by an annual member it would be cut off and the contents donated to charity. All the dumbbells were in their proper places in the racks and the bar bell weights were all ordered onto pegs with numbers on them. Felt I was working out with stock brokers and lawyers.

Breakfast was OP by ignoring the make-your-own-waffles, eggs and sausages, and mountains of sweet rolls. I had a bowl of cereal with banana and a low-fat yogurt. CREDIT moi, since I'm capable of losing it in front of that much FREE food.

Lunch was leisurely at a country club and I was stellar on plan; ignored the rolls and butter, chose crab cakes as my entree, and had one bite of the (automatically served) cheese cake dessert and left the remainder. CREDIT moi for eating on plan, especially for leaving food. I had even stored an apple in my car for a morning snack on the drive to the cemetery so I didn't arrive at lunch starved. Separate CREDIT moi for that.

Then I blew it during the long evening where food was available for hours and hours. I did well at first, but as the evening wore on I ate too many shrimp which seemed to give me permission to then fell into the desserts. Oh Well. I did manage to turn down the offer to take a whole sour cream sponge cake home with me. I'll take a CREDIT moi for coming to my senses for that at least.

I face the hotel breakfast buffet again this morning but am not worried since I conquered it yesterday. I have a sandwich made for the five hour drive home as well as a giant bag of baby carrots, an apple, and a granola bar. I'll do fine. Thanks for listening, guys; it helps me to report here.

Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for being recovered back to "OK" with plans to get back to the gym even.

Sending virtual "calgone" to your DH even thought it escapes me why water softener is going to help with the blue screen of death. Whatever, LOL.

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for yet another amazing bike ride - two hours is one fine workout. Would have to think that your brain would be clear of all muddled thoughts after that sort of cleansing.

Thanks for the link; that was a good morning chuckle. LOL that "A S S" gets censored by the automatic purity software, which means the Bible would get censored which should rankle some first amendment folks as well as some religious folks. On another board posters routinely used carp to bypass the censored word; it came to have the same feeling as the original. But I do need to be grateful because the censor forced me to learn to spell shiitake mushrooms because the correct spelling doesn't come out ****take, LOL.

ChinaMaine - Sending my warmest supportive thoughts for dealing with your MIL's cancer. Yay for her for beating the doctor's predictions and for doing it with "excellent quality of life." Would seem like she might be the source of your DH's resilience in the face of difficulties.

Congrats on the new low. Kudos for getting there with the fatigue level elevated. I love Tabbouleh but have never made it; how did yours come out?

Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for enjoying your Anniversary celebration while remaining attentive to what you were eating.

And thanks for making me look up "dreck" on wiki even though the meaning was clear from the sound. But it wasn't a lot of work since I had it open to look up calgon anyway, LOL.

Readers - Hunger is Not an Emergency

The Beck Diet Solution

twilit tera
06-13-2009, 11:02 AM
WI: Still steady
Pain: 1/3/7

Credits: packing lunch, counting calories, having less beer and ice cream than I thought I wanted at movie night.

Endoscopy showed esophagitis, which doesn't say much to me... she's inflamed, but why?

Hospital was crazy yesterday. I think they're planning to release her Monday, so there were calls about her take-home prescriptions and equipment, transplant and diabetes care classes (some of her medications cause high blood sugar, so she'll be getting insulin injections for a while until they taper those off).

She's going to need 24-hour live-in assistance, but between her sister, her daughter, and her two best friends, I think we have her covered. We're going to work out a calendar so that everybody can feel a bit of freedom and get days of rest, while Mom is well cared for. Hospital staff was impressed. :D

Robin: I think that one of the greatest practical benefits to being partnered is that one can safely wig out while the other stays calm and takes responsibility. It never fails that when I'm having a panic attack, B is in control and vice versa. Good that your DH has you, and you him.

Margaret: I'm glad you had a wonderful time on your anniversary dinner, and that you were in such great control of your eating too!

Anne: :hug: Glad you're checking in even on busy days, personals or no. :D Thanks for the link (and the tip to make it work).

ChinaMaine: :yay: for all the OPness and enjoying the sunrise.

Bill: :yay: for ignoring veritable MOUNTAINS of free food!

I would like to have all the restaurants put nutrition info on their menus too. It would raise awareness of the general populous, most of which seems to be in denial. Nonetheless, my biggest gripe with restaurant chains is when they don't publish the info anywhere, even on the web. I stopped eating at Olive Garden, because even when I was actively pursuing nutrition info, they had no means of getting it.

You know, it's mind boggling that we have so much food floating around here, while people are still starving in places!

06-13-2009, 09:00 PM
Today was a really lovely day. DH and I got out of China and went touristing. We started at the Desert of Maine. Yes there’s a 90+ acre expanse of glacial silt that’s advertised as a desert. It’s the result of our glacial past, poor farming practices, and inventive marketing techniques. All in all, an odd/interesting way to spend an hour or so. Beforehand we ate the picnic lunch we packed, sandwiches, tabbouleh, sugar snap peas and oranges. Tasty, fun and relaxing.

Then we drove down towards Portland to walk around Mackworth Island. It’s a small island in Casco Bay with a nice perimeter trail. It was also fun and relaxing, although not tasty. ;) As we walked my DH mentioned that there was a horrifying abuse story about the School for the Deaf located on the Island (now closed). I looked it up on google when we got home, and he was right. It’s so hard to believe that such a quiet, beautiful place could have been so misused.

:df: WI-up 0.25 lbs. Forgot to read my cards, but did make a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue 2.3 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

Bill Credit for skipping so much of the freely available food! Excellent driving food prepared – to me driving is a situation when eating is a minefield… I'm bored, so I want to graze constantly. Every McD's sign calls out to me ("come on, a *small* fry won't hurt you; not just this once" grrr)

The Tabbouleh is good. I have an online subscription to Cooking Light and got the recipe there. It was rated 5 stars by 30+ readers so I was expecting a stellar recipe. To me it lacks a certain something, so every time I make it I tweak the ingredients a bit to make it better. It’s getting pretty good, and I think I’m on the verge of having a recipe I’m really happy with. I will say that I make it with Quinoa, rather than Bulgar. Quinoa is gluten-free (unlike bulgar) and I like it’s lightness a bit better anyway. Even better, it is the grain with the highest proportion of protein. If you ever make Tabbouleh, consider giving Quinoa a try at the same time. :)

Tera Oh man – your pain level is so high. Credit for being op (or less than planned!) when you might have felt entitled to have more. :bravo: I’m glad Mom is going home Monday and kudos to you and your entire family for being so prepared. It sounds like to come from a long line of organized and compassionate people. Credit for good genes!

06-13-2009, 09:44 PM

Tera~ I think that one of the greatest practical benefits to being partnered is that one can safely wig out while the other stays calm and takes responsibility. It never fails that when I'm having a panic attack, B is in control and vice versa. Good that your DH has you, and you him. ....and being partnered with the right person. This little incident showed me more than I can ever express about my husband. He's perfect for me :)

Bill~ :lol: you dont remember the calgon commercials? (or are you pulling my leg?) :lol3: Let me offer some Big Honkin' Kudos for eating sanely in the presence of all that free delicious sounding food! Talk about food porn!

ChinaMaine~ sounds like you had a lovely day! My cousin went to a school for the deaf about 10 hours away from our home town. She has since moved back there...and when I got older I always wondered if she was "ok" there. Even as a kid. Its been nice to see her and her friends on facebook talking very fondly about their school. Breaks your heart to hear about how other humans can treat children :(


Everyone is over on the other Im just going to offer a :wave:

I havent updated my blog since the middle of May, and I was thinking this weekend might be a good time to do that. That's the plan for that. I'll also be getting some cooking done, even if its just getting alot of chicken cooked :lol:

Everything still isnt great (plan wise) But Im getting there. I always find it takes me a few days to kind of ween myself off all the stuff I wasnt suppose to be doing.

I stopped in today without hubby to see my new step-grandbaby. I wanted to bring the many new rufflie outfits I picked up. But I didnt want to intrude, and I didnt want to overstay my welcome. I got a very nice "Your more than welcome anytime Robin, so please sit" This from the stepson who had the hardest time when I came into the picture. It was wonderful!! Took everything in me to NOT cry!

I'll check in tomorrow....have a wonderful evening everyone!

06-13-2009, 09:47 PM
:wave: have a great vacation Bill!! We'll miss you around here! (going anywhere exciting?)

06-13-2009, 11:35 PM
Hi Coaches

i'm still rushing around from here to there and not posting much but my food is calming down and my activity level is going up and today I saw a lady at least my size if not larger on a bike with thin wheels participating in some cycling race. I know this cause she was wearing a number. I was sitting on the bus going to the school when I saw her. She was the only larger person I saw but I SAW HER and I wish I knew who she was cause I'd thank her. If she can do that I can do that.

I was also at the local used stuff store this evening and picked up some low carb recipes books, a book all about bean recipes and the Thin For Life book recommended here several time and another book about "not dieting". Can't remember the title. I grabbed it cause they had a buy 4 get one free deal. I figure I can't lose. These things all help to get me motivated.

And billblueeyes I wanted to make sure I wished you a grand holiday adventure with fantastic sightings of rare and unusual species!!
OH! Speaking of which, bring your camera for sure. Get this: today when I went to school I didn't bring my camera. This isn't the norm. And what did I do? I set type, wooden type, an archaic art form I actually have 4 years of work experience in. Me and Shirley from my grad class were making a sign for our display windows. okay archaic art form done. I walk out to cross the street to get to the first book arts show here in town celebrating said same archaic art form (a coincidence only) including letterpress artists and book binders and papermakers and calligraphers, all of which I do and have done, and while waiting to cross the street I see a cop on a bike and then about 60 cyclists, most totally nude except for bike helmets, chanting "More A S S less Gas". They were protesting petroleum. I think because I draw naked people they didn't even phase me. And, again, I noticed most were fit and not fat. I could not believe I had no camera! The looks on the spectators were priceless. And so once they passed, I caught the bus and when I got off I saw a bride in a GIANT poofy dress, (we're talking 80's Dynasty style here), on the steps of a building downtown and watching the poofy bride was a man in a blue palm-treed Hawaiian shirt with a giant white cockatoo on the back of his neck and watching the cockatoo were two girls, one taking the other's picture surreptitiously to ensure they got the cockatoo and owner in it. I was DYING to have had my camera to catch the bride, the bird, the man and the tourists!

So, BBE, take your camera and keep it handy.
Oh, and have fun. Lots of it.:hug:

:wave: to everyone

06-13-2009, 11:41 PM

I totally didn't want to believe you were going on vacation so soon! Be sure to have a GREAT time. :D


06-14-2009, 12:05 AM
Coaches/Buddies I think I need to work on getting some more fruit and veggies in, but other than that I was on plan. Today was a rest day. Lots of kid chasing. I kinda maxed out on that for a while this afternoon and had to give myself a time out. A little sleep helped and I got in a quick nap.

Tomorrow is a 2 hr bike ride. I'm guessing I'll be tired again.

ChinaMaine Love your Friday lake report!

Glad you had a fun Saturday too.

Bill I'm impressed by how well you did yesterday, and that you gave yourself credit for good, even in the face of not perfect. That's huge!

Have a very happy vacation! We'll miss you around here. I do have the July thread start on my Google calendar, ready to ping me, so we should be all set when you get back!

Tera Sounds like you had a reasonably good day in this tough time.

I hear you on the abundance of food. Last I checked the US produces 3900 calories per person per day. No wonder we're all fat.

Robin Sounds like your DH is a keeper, eh? Big smiles on the interaction with your stepson. And looking forward to your new blog post showing up on my blog roll.

onebyone Looking forward to seeing you out there with a number on your bicycle. And perhaps more duds than the riding protest, LOL! What a day to forget your camera.


Greenville Beth
06-14-2009, 12:55 AM
Hello, All. Todays weight: steady. That 229 is making me wait. I hope for good things in the morning.

Things have been going well plan wise. I've been working everyday, so I'm a bit tired. I've been 100% on plan through it all. I'm happy about that. I do feel like I'm getting some control over food. I hate to say that out loud. :D It is true, however.

Credit me for being on-plan, not eating free food, ONLY eating what is on my daily plan.

Anne - You've really been riding. That's great. Way to stay on-plan. I hope to get my new bike next Saturday. I can't wait!

Onebyone - Don't let your weight stand in your way of bike riding if that's what you want to do. I used to ride 30 miles a day at 276 lbs. The bike survived and so did I. :D As soon as I get my bike, I will be working back up to that and more at 230 lbs. Life's too short to put off what you enjoy.

Robin - I'm glad you're doing better. It sounds like you had quite the frightening experience. It sounds like you've been able to find a way to use it for good. Credit. :)

ChinaMaine - Sounds like you had a nice day. There's nothing better than a eating outside on a pretty day. It is a shame how one human can be so inhuman to another.

Tera - I hope your mother is doing well. She's a lucky woman to have so many friends and family around her that care so much about her. I'm glad you've all worked it out so everyone can have a break now and them. I help take care of my father, he has serious memory loss, and sometimes you just need to get away and relax. All best.

Bill - It sounds to me like you did pretty well during a stressful weekend. Give yourself credit for that. I hope you have a great vacation.

Opening night went well. At least the show got a good review. Hopefully, that will lead to more ticket sales.

All best,


06-14-2009, 01:04 AM
Can't wait for the wry observations when you get back. It will be very strange muddling through without you. My challenge to us all:

What would Bill do?

06-14-2009, 06:39 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did splendid at the hotel breakfast bar; CREDIT moi. Had their granola. They were out of bananas so I drove to the nearby mini-market and got some, LOL. And then did a marvelous thing. I craved their make-it-yourself waffle that my kids were eating, so I made myself one, ate one quarter of it because that's what I need to enjoy it, and abandoned the rest. Amazing, tossing out food is soooooooo rare for me. Special CREDIT moi.

Thanks one and all for your kind well wishes for my vacation. Already I can feel the thought that since it's a special occasion food planning isn't required. It certainly is required - with ample room for extras of unusual foods - but planning is required. Thinking of you guys here with the efforts you make to stay on course will help me do the same.

maryblu - Waving back; LOL at WWBD?

onebyone - Yep, people can ride bikes without being self conscious about their size.

Love your sightings on your day without your camera. Charged my camera's battery to max last night and have it ready to pack.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for appreciating your DH; Yay for your DH being there for you.

And Kudos to your stepson for moving forward in life; a good sign for a new papa.

umm ... no, I've never heard a Calgon commercial. Could be because I'm a rather light TV person, but maybe they were Canadian only?

Anne (wndranne) - Yay for an adult time out from the kids; like that idea.

Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for eating less than "I thought I wanted." Love that recognition of thought I wanted.

Sounds like your organizational skills are in high gear for your mother's recovery plan. Good news that you are already considering care giver burn out while you can take steps to prevent it.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for OP with food and exercise right through the fatigue.

And Kudos for the upbeat touristing with DH. You made me google the desert of Maine which showed a camel and I had a hearty laugh; I was expecting a desert moose maybe?

Delighted by your phrase "out of China and went touristing." If your touring took you to the country China, you'd never mention it publicly on the Internet to avoid tweaking that part of a government that uses webbots to scoop up everything and keep tabs. You'd just drop hints assuming that webbots aren't subtle.

Will try your Quinoa in Tabbouleh - sounds yummy.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Kudos for 100% on plan through the busy times. Yay for positive reviews from your opening night - hope that sells a bunch of tickets.

Readers - Social Events Response Card

I need to make social events be about the people and not about the food. I have to face the fact that every time I eat spontaneously at a social event, I undermine my efforts by strengthening my giving in muscle. Every time I stick to my plan, I feel great, and in control.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 151

06-14-2009, 08:31 AM
Hi All -- I posted on this thread some time ago inquiring about the Beck books. I have finally purchased the first one, but am going out of town for a few weeks so am not "officially" joining this thread until I get back.

But .... I just want to say to Bill BlueEyes -- I LOVE, absolutely love the cards and tips you quote from the book in your posts. I read these tips whenever you post and I can see they do help. So THANK YOU. CJ

twilit tera
06-14-2009, 11:27 AM
WI: -1
Pain: 1/3/4

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, :swim: :yay:, shoes :yay:, PT :yay:, rest :yay:

Stayed home yesterday, but it was far from uneventful. We signed the lease and got the keys to our new apartment! This is going to be a very interesting week, between Mom's release from the hospital and our move!

There's a possibility she'll be sent home today, and if not today, tomorrow!

Lots of rest and rubbing, and less than a full schedule of PT, and my pain levels seem to be back down. Going to the hospital today.

ChinaMaine: I'm happy for your wonderful trip! :yay: for OP food and exercise!

Robin: What a wonderful moment, knowing you're accepted as family by your stepson. I can relate, being on the other side of that dynamic... it took years for me to accept my stepdad, but eventually, he really did become family to me, in my heart as well as on paper.

onebyone: :yay: for finding books and motivation from people you see.

Every summer solstice, Seattle, Washington has an arts parade, which for over ten years now has included a large number of unauthorized nude cyclists in body paint.

Anne: Kid chasing is great exercise!

Beth: Always express your accompllishments out loud. Frequently. :D Reinforce to your subconscious that this really is happening. You really are getting control!

Thank you for the kind thoughts for my mom. She is a remarkable woman. The amount of love and committment she has from us is a reflection of the sort of person she is.

Bill: Well, if you see this, it will be after you've returned from your vacation. Hope it's been lovely and you had a nice Independence Day.

06-14-2009, 10:24 PM
Today was kind of a low activity day. It rained outside all day long, and I didn’t talk myself into my usual 1 mile walk. Oh well… I did do the first 30 mins of my workout though, so credit! I craved something special for breakfast, so I made French toast with carmelized bananas and blueberries (I think carmelized in the right word – kind of like bananas foster without the booze). Since I had a day inside, I wanted to do something adventurous for dinner as well… We had grilled sausage, onions and peppers for dinner last night. I’ve been wanting to make a rice-crust quiche ever since I had it at the café in Niagara-on-the-Lake. So, I made a quiche with sausage, onions, peppers, Italian and Feta cheeses, and a brown rice crust. It was quite good (if I do say so myself!)

Although I exercised less than normal, I was much hungrier than normal in the afternoon. I had a slice of toast with peanut butter, instead of saying ‘hunger is not an emergency’. Oh well… After that I took a nap for about an hour.

WI-down 0.75 lbs. (new low) Forgot to read my cards again, but did made a plan. Fatigue 2.7 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

I'm too tired for personals tonight -- I'm off to bed. I'll catch up with all of you tomorrow! :wave:

06-14-2009, 10:44 PM
I got the Beck Diet Solution book from the library and I just made my advantage cards. ^_^ I even made sure I typed some of them into my weight loss blog.

Greenville Beth
06-14-2009, 11:33 PM
Just a quick note and then I'm off to bed. Today was a good day. I worked and then came home and got my yard mowed. Credit me for mowing when I would have rather watched TV.

The 220's are still making me wait. I should see it in the morning, I hope! I've been staying onplan 100%, credit. The 90 minutes of mowing was my exercise for today. I'm going to try to mow my folks yard tomorrow. That will be another two hours of good exercise.

I'll do personals tomorrow evening. I should get home at a decent time.

Here's to a great Beck day for everyone!

All best,


06-15-2009, 12:44 AM
Good Evening Coaches

I had a very full day today. I spent 4 hours in training at the new east end extension location of the art school where I am going to be a summer children's program technician. There are 5 of us who are going to be technicians and I don't think I'll like it very much but that's besides the point.
I won't really know that until I do it. I may be surprised.

I started reading Thin for Life and I like it. It's a very positive very motivating book about weight loss that is possible and specifically about the people who did it. I can see why this book gets recommended.

Food today wasn't very good. I ate because I felt out of place and uncomfortable during orientation. And then I ate because I was relieved it was over. Food as reward. And I ate because I am over scheduled and have had no time to myself. School ended at the end of April and it's been busier than ever. Grad is soon, the 25th, so that will end much of the frenziness, and then a month later I get to go on holiday and I am so looking forward to it.

Anyway just wanted to check in with the group. Have a great evening and a good night :wave:

PS I don't think I reported in with my biggest credit for the week: I passed my driving test on Friday and now have a full driver's license!

06-15-2009, 08:32 AM
Good Morning :sunny:

onebyone~ Congratulations on getting your drivers license! :cb:

Beth~ Kudos for getting yard work done instead of watching tv!


Im a bit more organized this morning. My plan is to be 100% op!

Have an awesome day everyone!

06-15-2009, 10:19 AM
Just checked in to see who would start us off w/o BillBE. Thanks, Robin.

Been dealing with two serious and complicated family health issues, a personal crisis that has had me sad and bawling at a moment's notice for the past month, crunch time at work, a mildly messed up lower back right during the most critical garden time, and even a sick dawg who ended up at the vet's yesterday, emergency room style. Proves one thing I have always known: I am not a stress eater.

I am a celebratory eater, and since I am a normally very happy person, no wonder I have been fat for 80% of my days!

So, now I am just wondering if the stress will last me all the way below my goal! Silver lining, I guess.

I must say this:

When I see what so many of my dear Beckies are dealing with, it does give me perspective; things could be alot worse. I am keeping a good thought for all.

I hope we can all keep this in mind:

Much of what we are facing is out of our control. How we think about, plan, and act regarding our diet, IS within our control, and Beck shows us how. The choice is ours. Staying on plan, grabbing and using the Beck tools does give us control. We just have to do it.

twilit tera
06-15-2009, 12:22 PM
WI: +1
Pain: 1/4/6
Activity level: 4

This'll have to be short. Busy day planned and I'm already behind due to issues with changing my services over to the new apartment. This appears to be one of those emotional days, such as I haven't had in a while. Started with some uncomfortable dreams which I won't go into. On to transferring service and having to set up automatic payments on our Internet because of an outstanding account I don't even recognize. Ugh. I hate automatic payments.

I'm running off at the fingers. Let's see... yesterday's credits:

choosing chicken breast on wheat bun instead of typical company picnick hamburger and hotdogs, with only a half-cup of potato salad on the side and no dessert. (too bad I wrecked it with sonic burger, onion rings and blast later, but at least that was a jr burger) :yay: :( :yay:, Some PT... not as much as I have scheduled still... *sigh* :yay:? volunteering to set up Mom's care coordination webtools. :yay:

Going to be on plan today. Period. Easier today since I'm not planning to go anywhere and fast food temptation will be slight. My biggest danger is emotional eating, but I plan to counter that with a good cry followed by loud music and a lot of productivity.

Sorry, no time for personals. I've got to run down to the office, tell them about carpenter ants, do PT and start cleaning and packing.

06-15-2009, 07:14 PM
WI-up 0.5 lbs. Read my cards and made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue 3.7 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). I was very fatigued, and worked from bed today. The mental effects were pretty bad – lots of brain fog etc… It’s hard to say for sure but my fatigue levels this month definitely seem to be higher than last month. I wonder if it’s thyroid or an interaction with stress. I’m not sure what to do though.

Bill hope you are having fun…

Damiere Credit for making your ACs! Which do you think is the most powerful for you (if you don’t mind my asking…)

Beth Credit for op food and mowing. Hope the weather cooperated and you could mow today.

one by one :bravo: for your driver’s license. Ouch for the off-plan eating. I hope you like your new job.

Robin Kudos for your positive attitude and hope you are, indeed, 100% op. :sunny:

maryblu It sounds like you are definitely going through a rough patch and I’m sorry. Kudos for keeping up a pragmatic, yet, positive attitude. You are right our diet is under our control and we are all lucky we have found Beck, who is leading us on the path. I hope things get easier/better for you soon.

Tera Sorry for the pain levels, but I suppose that might be due to the activity level… Ouch for the poor food choices, but credit for your dedication to being op today.

06-15-2009, 09:08 PM
Credit for making your ACs! Which do you think is the most powerful for you (if you don’t mind my asking…)
I think the ones that have the most power for me are the personal ones that have back stories of embarrassment: never let my weight hold me back anymore (was told I couldn't ride not one, not two, but three plus roller coasters that I waited HOURS for), I'll be able to walk up 4-H camp hills with ease (the thing that pushed to me to start my journey was a 40/50 year old diabetic telling me that he was smokin' me on the hill. I know it was a joke but it made me realize my weight was holding me back), and to feel happy and in control. When I am working on a healthy lifestyle, I feel amazing and in control.

Today I've been trying to tackle the sitting down while eating and I just realized how much of my mindless eating/binging is while standing up. I was doing good until I saw to eat some toast and realize I already had a few bites standing up.

06-15-2009, 10:21 PM
Well coaches I may be coming close to turning the corner.

This morning the scale was 2 lbs shy of my all time high set 5 years ago. I reduced my weight then by going on the most expensive, most severe diet program I have ever been on complete with B vitamin injections weekly, given to me by a nurse, and after 9 months of adhering my hair started to fall out and I stopped short of a 100lb loss, getting to 99lbs down, asking them for help to get over the hump to 100 and they had....nothing.
I left without maintenance. I left without looking back. I left angry and not having learned a thing and here I am.
It's taken me 5 years to re-gain 97lbs. I bounced between 238 and 249 immediately after leaving that diet program and stayed there for 2 1/2 years. But in the last two years I have been on a steady climb to hovering between 248 and 260 and now this year I am between 258 and 270.
I was 274 this morning.
OMG that feels SO BIG. Wow. I can feel my eyes tearing up. I never seem to do anything until my back is against the wall. Guess I had to go to a very obvious no choice space.

Anyway I am going upstairs to read my new book. I need some encouragement to do this and some direction. I think I'll find it in those pages and I definitely get it from my coaches. You just keep going, keep trying. And I know that can be me again. I know it.

Have a good night.

twilit tera
06-16-2009, 08:23 AM
WI: none
Pain: 0/3/7
Activity: 4

Credits: counting calories :yay:, making a plan to handle a pizza dinner (one of my triggers) and sticking to it :yay:, eating less pizza than planned when hunger was satisfied :yay:, PT almost completely on schedule :yay: :yay:, clothes shopping :yay:

It's another brief post today. Yesterday was indeed an emotional roller-coaster. I've started sorting through things and packing them away. I've got the services set to be transfered and a truck rental lined up for this weekend.

Mom got home last night. I've been trying to establish a group calendar for all Mom's caregivers, but we are having access problems with one or two.

We had pizza dinner to celebrate. Having us all there at once during a mealtime was kinda funny from the outside... imagine 4 nurses all trying to help give her the first blood sugar test and insulin injection!

Definitely ended on a high note and stayed on plan. I only wish I could get to the pool more often, but thing will settle down.

Congratulations Daimere for getting well and started. Realizing you had taken bites of toast standing up is a good start - you are becoming more aware of your habits.

onebyone :hug: I'm sorry you're in a sad and angry place. I hope that this is the last time you find yourself there.

06-16-2009, 08:35 AM
Good Morning

Tera~ have you tried google calendars? Hubs and I share a calendar and it works pretty good for us.

onebyone~ :hug: Im so sorry you are at the place you are. It will get better!:hug:

ChinaMaine~ ouch for brain fog :( I hope the stress lifts soon! That has to be one of the worst things for our health.

:wave: to everyone!

I was op all day until about 8pm :( The sugar cravings hit and I did a little binge :(

I'll get there....

Have a great day everyone!

06-16-2009, 09:56 AM
Coaches/Buddies I crashed my bike on Sunday and have been off since then. It wasn't a bad crash as far as these things go, but I'm tired and sore, and just blah. Eating has been way off, which unfortunately is normal when I'm having physical issues.

I'll try to be more consistent checking in again.

Personals later, but quick :hug: to onebyone. That corner is just waiting for you to turn it.


06-16-2009, 10:27 AM
Hello Coaches

I felt super puffy yesterday and there it is this morning, reflected on the scale. 275. Well coaches with that I am now following the 6 week non-dieting approach in the Thin For Life book.
:wave:See ya later big number on the scale. Don't let the door hit you on your way OUT of MY LIFE :wave:

This is week one: pay attention to fats oils and sweets.

I can do that.

Credit moi for (1a) eating breakfast (1b)without adding extra fat
2) writing it down in fitday
3) taking my multi-vitamin and calcium+magnesium supplement
4) have 4 glasses of water already
5) getting documents ready to get my pass to the community pool - I need to prove residency here and I can
6) the decision to do this thing already. :mad: <--- = determination.

Thanks everyone for hanging in there with me. I made it through 3 years of art school with an A average; I took on the job of organizing and Art in the Park; I took on the job of working with kids this summer (I've avoided that one for years); I am re-starting my craft business too so I if can do all those things I can watch my fats, oils and sweets this week.

Gotta run. Enjoy your day Becksters!

Greenville Beth
06-16-2009, 10:39 AM
Morning, All. The scale has been kind to me. I am finally in the 220's. 229.0 to be exact. Woo hoo. Credit me. I've lost 7.5 lbs in the last three weeks. Credit. I guess, that's what staying on plan does for you. I just need to figure out how to fit more exercise in. With this new job and working 7 days a week, it's been a little tough.

Not much going on. The new job is going well. I'm going out with my sister tonight, so I am planning very carefully what I'm going to eat / drink. The last thing I want is to see the scale go up over one dinner.

Anne - I'm sorry to hear about your bike crash. I had a few when I was riding all the time. It comes with the sport but still no fun. I hope you heal quickly.

Robin - Looks like you had mostly a good day. Give yourself credit for that.

Tera - Super credit on limiting the pizza. That's a tough one. It's great that your mom is home already. I'm sure she will be more comfortable in her own bed. You're right, things will settle down. I see that pool calling your name. :D

Onebyone - I'm sorry you're feeling down. I've been in your place. Sometimes it just takes "something" to make a person ready to make a real change. I don't know what that "something" is. I'm sure, it is different for everyone. This new job of mine has really helped. I can't isolate myself anymore. I meet new people everyday, and I can't stand being over weight around them. You'll find your "something".

Daimere - It is all about being aware of your actions. The toast shows that you are becoming aware. Credit for that.

ChinaMaine - I am sure that the stress of your husband losing his job is part of the pain level and brain fog. Cut yourself some slack while you're going through this tough patch.

Have a great day!


06-16-2009, 07:46 PM
:df: WI-down 0.75 lbs. (new low) Read my cards and made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.5 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). I feel much better today. :D

Damiere I think what you are talking about in terms of feeling of control is something that maryblu mentioned yesterday as well. I whole-heartedly agree that having a feeling control is very empowering. You’ll be flying up those 4-H hills soon I’m sure!

one by one :hug: I’m sorry you are such a sad place. -- You’ll be turning that corner soon – every moment is an opportunity to start again. :)

Ha! Looks like you turned the corner this AM! Good luck with your new plan, sounds like a good one.

Tera It’s nice you guys all had a pizza dinner together. Funny imagry about the 4 nurses and 1 very well tended patient! Credit for stopping eating pizza when you were no longer hungry! Once again, I’m sorry to see the pain level elevated. Hopefully when your Mom is settled and you have unpacked in your new place, a lot of stress will be gone… (and you’ll get back to the pool more often)

Robin Credit for being op for most of the day!

Anne :hug: for the crash and hope you feel better soon!

Beth :woohoo: for getting into the 220s!! Your hard work is definitely paying off. Have fun with your sis and credit for planning ahead on the food. Even if you are op, the scale my show a bump tomorrow because restaurant food tends to be salty. So, remember that if you’re op, the scale will drop right back down in a day or two. :)

06-16-2009, 11:30 PM
Coaches/Buddies It's official. I'm too far off the path of making good choices and it is time to get my backside back on track before I start doing damage. I didn't even track food today, and I almost always do that. A sign.

So here is my plan:

I will read my ARC tomorrow.
I will read my Memory Cards tomorrow.
Thursday, I'll do my run.
Thursday, I'll write down my food plan for the day and pack my lunch.
I'll check in here every day.
I'll read the Response Cards appropriate to my situation.

I'm giving myself credit for catching the pattern and making a list. A lot of stuff starts Thursday since tomorrow is another meeting day at work with lots of stress and lots of food. I'll do my best, but am targeting Thursday for a more realistic restart.

onebyone Glad to hear you are doing the 6 week Thin for Life program! We can restart together.

Beth Nice work on the weight loss, and thanks for letting us know it can be done. I get frustrated with my scale from time to time and forget it actually moves when I'm taking the actions I need to take to lose weight.

Thanks for your thoughts on the crash. I'm bruised, sore and lost a little skin, but it was nothing too serious. I'd ride tomorrow, but I'm getting meetinged out.

ChinaMaine Great to see your weight and fatigue are down!

Robin Sorry about your binge. It was good to see your blog entry though. Small steps.

Tera Great to see your purple people. It must be tough getting ready to move and help your mom. I second Robin's recommendation of Google Calendar.

Daimere Welcome! :welcome: Glad to hear you got some meaningful ACs! Good luck on that sitting down thing. I'm forced to admit that I did a much better job of being mindful, but never mastered the sitting down thing. I'd love to blame my kids, but I just can't sit still for long.

maryblu Hope your issues settle out soon. Sending virtual :hug:.

Back tomorrow!


twilit tera
06-17-2009, 09:33 AM
WI: -2.5 :yay:
Pain: 0/3/7
Activity: 3

Credits: packing carefully :yay:, PT :yay: :yay: :yay:, calorie counting :yay:, anti-inflammatories (something I've been forgetting to give myself credit for) :yay:

Another set of forms arrived for my SSDI claim. The person in the local office forwarded it to a Disability Specialist, which I'm guessing is good news. I expect the local office screens out as many applicants as they can. It's going to be interesting, as I've got only 10 days now to return it (15 from the date of the letter). Much can be done while I'm looking after Mom, I think.

Robin: One binge does not a defeated diet make. :) Yes, you'll get there. :yay: for the rest of the day's OPness.

Google calendars were my favorite out of all the calendars I tried. Unfortunately, when I mentioned the "g" word, one of Mom's friends, who works at MS with Mom, flat out refused. The other, who can only access the Internet at work cannot load google, yahoo, or msn. :shrug:

All the calendars at the caregiving-specific sites that I saw don't break up their calendar view into hourly portions, so you can't tell by looking at it what time one shift ends and the next begins. What's more, my shifts are usually going to be over a day long, but I couldn't enter anything longer than a day into them.

Anne: I hope you're feeling better soon and glad the crash wasn't serious. How did the accident happen? :yay: for getting back on track early rather than late.

See above regarding google calendar. :)

onebyone: :yay: for finding a new wagon and getting on it. I don't know much about the book, but I do like what I see in your posts.

Beth: :yay: for planning your dinner out with your sister, and for leveraging the numbers on the scale to motivate you.

06-17-2009, 09:56 AM
Hi Coaches

today's WI: -2.6 phew.
yesterday's stats: Calories 1,762
Fat (g) 64.2
Carbs (g) 225.7
Prot (g) 74.1

Okay so I am going to report in my stats every day (credit for reporting this morning) because this means that I have recorded my food the day before. this is really important. I almost think it's more of a key than exactly what I am eating. Once I start moving more I'll report that too. (Credit for planning on moving more). I have been eating sitting down though (credit).

I am now in the final graduation prep week activities. I have several big things to do yet but nevertheless graduation will come! Get this: we have to remove all the furniture and easels and tables and stuff from the classroom we are graduating in on Monday. And then the day after graduation we have to show up to put the furniture back! Who heard of such a thing?? I expected it though. We are totally hands on. I am not saying I won't be under the weather. I know I will be.

Sorry no personals. I have to get to the school. I'll check in tonight. Have a great day Becksters.

Greenville Beth
06-17-2009, 10:15 AM
Morning, All. I did pretty well out with my sister last night. I was rewarded on the scale this morning as it was down another .6 lbs. I'm at 228.4 this morning. Woo hoo. Credit me.

I have been walking on my lunch hour, (actually lunch 1/2 hour) the last couple of days. I've been getting in about 20 - 25 minutes. I figure, that's better than no exercise. Credit!

Not much else going on. I get my first paycheck this Friday, so that means I'll be buying my bike this weekend. I even have Saturday off so I can ride. That means I'll have a sore backside Saturday night!

Onebyone - Credit on being down 2.6 lbs. It looks like you have turned things around for yourself. That's great. I'm sure you'll feel better once you finish up school this week.

Tera - Kind of odd about the person not being able to use google at work. It sounds like you are really busy with the move as well. It will be nice when all this is done and you can catch your breath.

Anne - Give yourself credit for realizing you're off plan and doing something about it. That's major! It is so easy to let yourself keep sliding and ignoring it. Great job on catching yourself.

ChinaMaine - I'm glad you're feeling better and your weight keeps falling. Great work.

You're right about the scale going up after even an on plan dinner out. That has happened to me too many times. I was lucky today!

Have a great day, everyone.


06-17-2009, 11:12 AM
just a quick hello!

Ive been getting posting done on my blog! :cb: Yah!

Still not op all the way, I think its going to take some serious food planning, and plan sticking!

Anyone else notice when you are trying to curb the sugar intake you eat other things that will give you the same effect without actually eating a whole cake? For me right now its potatoes. I know its weird, but I can fill up on potatoes with lots of butter and seasonings, and I get the same feeling. *sigh* This is where the serious food planning, and serious plan sticking comes in.

Tera~ I hope you get some sort of calendar figured out!

Have a great day everyone!

Greenville Beth
06-17-2009, 08:45 PM
I'm just posting to check out my new signature. I will say, I took my dad to McDonalds today and didn't eat anything as it wasn't on my plan. I sat there with my stomach growling, but waited until I got back to my office to eat the lunch I had brought. Major credit!

Until later,


06-17-2009, 08:51 PM
WI-up 0.5 lbs. Read my cards and made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue 4.3 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). I felt really lousy today. This AM, I got my TOM for the 4th time in less than 2 months. I graphed my fatigue ratings since April; my fatigue level has jumped a great deal for the last month or so. I’ve called my endocrinologist to see if there’s any other tests I should have done. Hopefully I’ll hear back tomorrow.

This morning DH and I heard the loons singing, and harmonizing !! Later this afternoon we saw a Loon Mommy and baby floating out in front of our house. Loon babies ride around on their Mommy’s backs. It is so adorable! Then Daddy came swimming up to check on Mom and baby. (awwwww…) He gave Mom a quick beak-rub of support and said ‘hi’ to baby. Then he floated away to let Mom and baby enjoy the sun in peace. After a few minutes the baby climbed off Mom’s back for a swim. After splashing around for abit, baby climbed back up on her back. They’ve been out there for hours now, floating around, making happy Loon noises. I LOVE this time of year!

Anne Credit for recognizing the signs, and for making a plan to get yourself back on plan. ;)

Tera :yay: for 2.5 lbs down and for the promising news on SSDI.

one by one :yay: for 2.6 lbs down and for tracking your food metrics here. :yay: for being on the final glide path for school!

Beth :yay: for being op when out to dinner. And I’m glad you didn’t get retribution from the water retention gods – another .6 lbs down!

Robin :yay: for blogging and being op! Kudos for using planning (and sticking to it) to keep you from eating too many taters with butter. I’m Irish, so potatoes IS what I crave, not sugar. :D

06-17-2009, 09:40 PM
I did a much better job of being mindful, but never mastered the sitting down thing
Gosh, I have the opposite. I can't seem to slow my eating. I think I will have to start leaving post it's on my food.

06-17-2009, 11:48 PM
Coaches/Buddies Today went according to plan. Tomorrow is planning again, which means tonight is planning again. I can do this.

Tera Glad to see your purple people again. I just skidded on some gravel.

onebyone Way to stay on plan! Good to hear graduation approaches.

Beth Happy to hear about your impending sore backside. It'll be good to talk bikes.

Robin Glad you are figuring out your sugar issues. I don't appear to be sugar sensitive myself and am very grateful for that.

ChinaMaine Sorry to hear about your fatigue levels. I think it is good that you are getting it checked out.

DaimereHoping you don't have to resort to post-it 'ing your food!

See you all tomorrow.


06-18-2009, 08:45 AM
today's WI: -3.4 water be gone:wizard:
yesterday's stats: Calories 1,964
Fat (g) 91.3
Carbs (g) 217.3
Prot (g) 78

Credit moi for tracking.

Well in two days of making a decision my body has released the water that's been downright uncomfortable.
I am under 270 today. :goodscale

I'm really rushing this morning. Just wanted to report in. I'll be back with an extended version of this this afternoon. Now off to do this :coffee: and out for the bus.

:wave: Have a great morning Becksters.

06-18-2009, 09:56 AM
Hi, to all.

Don't know about the rest of you, but I suspect as I am, you are missing Mr. Bill.

I read Anne's posts about exercising so faithfully and intensely and think if I could do that, I would have no weight issues at all. And then I read of your struggles, Anne, with such a hectic schedule how tough it is staying OP with food.

If I exercised half as much as you do, and you had my (right now, at least) complete ambivalence about food, we would both be Twiggy. (You are prolly too young to remember her!) I am just being so stubborn about only doing exercise that accomplishes work. The work needs to be done, and I am rewarded with gardens looking the way I want them to, but it is not aerobic work and weight bearing only sporadically.

None of the personal/family or even work issues with which I am struggling (and to be fair, my work always has a lot of- shall we say- "variables" in it) are anything I can control at all. I just have to let it all play out and suck every bit of joy out of summer in this glorious, beautiful, remote part of the world that I can.

Chinamaine, credit for taking the time to watch and report on the loon behavior. They were positively boisterous last night, but not sure what the ruckus was all about. I love the different calls. So varied and beautiful.

Want to drill on the control issue a bit. Credit, Beth, for being hungry at McCrud's and not eating. As little as I find that I would eat there, to be genuinely hungry and sit through it, well, that is sooooooo Beckian.

I just have to go back to the truth here that Beck gives us all the tools. It is our choice to use them. For whatever reason right now, I just really want it. I really want these last 10#s off, to get under my goal and have my goal weight as my red l line. I really want it. There is so much other mucked up stuff in my life right now, it is the one thing I can do for myself. It is the only thing I can control, and I am, if nothing else, a CONTROL FREAK! It's workin' for me at the moment.

Take control, all!

06-18-2009, 11:14 AM
Good Morning :rain:

Yesterday didn't go as planned. But today is a new day!

DIL ended up in the hospital last night. Not the one that just had the baby, the other. She called this morning, all doped up on pain meds...but hopefully they will let her out today. We'll see. She has both the bleeding and clotting disorder which wreaks havoc on her. We have the grandkids until she gets out...SIL is away for work. Stuff always happens when he goes away :(

Hubby is trying valiantly to salvage his pc. Its not working very well...he's going to have to bite the bullet and buy a new one. Which is no longer an easy situation. With the new computers now, some equipment will not run with Vista, or the bigger (something or other) is too big and will not run equipment properly. Its actually looking like we will have to have one specially built to accomodate us. Its not like we have dinosaur equipment...its just that the pc's are upgrading to fast and not taking into account the millions of dollars out there in equipment that is run from them :(

Good for the pc builder I suppose. It just makes me nervous buying from some guy building pc's in his basement. kwim? Im sure it will be fine...I just need to think positive!!!!!!!!!

food and exercise are off (but op as of 10:14am this morning) :lol: If I can keep up the momentum Im golden!

Have a great day everyone!

twilit tera
06-18-2009, 01:28 PM
WI: none (scale got packed)
Pain: 0/3/6
Activity: 3

Credits: Walking down to the FAR pool go to :swim: :yay:, calorie counting :yay:, PT :yay: :yay:, icepacks :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:, resting before pain got out of control :yay:, anti-inflammatories :yay:

I went to the pool first thing yesterday morning, knowing it would be my only chance to enjoy the swim away from crowds. On the way home, the mallards saw me and decided to follow me home for breakfast.

I get to spend the day at Mom's. Going to use this time for filling out SSDI forms and laundry. That way all the clothes we move into the new apartment (besides what we're wearing at the time) will be clean. :) Have I mentioned yet that all of the appliances in the new apartment are new? And the a/c too? :D

onebyone: I do find it strange that your college is using a classroom to conduct the graduation ceremony. Hope the work goes quickly.

:woohooo: for a reduction in scale number (isn't the first week of dieting fun?); excellent idea keeping your reports here to motivate you. I know it helps me.

Beth: :yay: for sticking to your dinner plans and for your attitude toward exercise. You are absolutely right that some is better than none! :woohoo: for eating absolutely nothing at McD's! That's impressive!

Robin: :yay: for being aware of your sugar substitutions and acknowledging the need for a a plan. Yikes for your computers! :getwell: for your DIL. :(

:crossed: for staying OP today.

ChinaMaine: Ouch for the fatigue levels and monthly visitors coming more than once a month! :yay: for staying OP during health issues, which I know can reduce motivation. :crossed: that your doctor has a major brainwave soon.

I just love the word-picture of those loons!

Daimere: Regarding post-its on my food... hey, whatever works! :) One thing you might want to do is reflect (when it's not mealtime) on why you're rushing through your food... what is distracting you? are you stressed about something? Once you're conscious of the causes you can address them.

Maryblu: Wonderful post, and it really gets to the heart of why I stay on track and why I feel so miserable when I don't. Feeling out of control over my weight and health depresses me, and on days when it seems the rest of my world is falling apart, I can point to my FitDay and say, "There! See? I can do something about at least this!"

06-18-2009, 07:38 PM
WI-up 0.5 lbs. Read my cards and made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue 4.0 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). I have an appt to see a doc about my fatigue on Monday. After some research, I think the sudden increase in fatigue over the last month is due to menopause. :( So I hope there’s an alternative to HRT.
The loon family was in the cove all day. -- it's probably the quietest water in the south end of the lake, so it's no wonder the loons are 'bringing up baby' here. They were out early this AM; Baby spent most of the morning swimming on his own. Mom and Dad would dive for food and feed Baby when they came up. At lunch time, Baby climbed on Mom's back for a well-deserved nap.
Damiere :lol: at post-its on food. If it works, do it! ;)

Anne Keep it up! Planning is the crux of it I think, everything else is simply implementation. :)

one by one :yay: for getting rid of that water!! And glad you are back under 270. Credit for keeping track of your eating.

maryblu Yes I too miss Mr Blue Eyes. I find a lack of control to be so hard to take – credit for your positive, pragmatic attitude. :hug: And if the silver lining is wanting to do the Beck-work, well :yay: It’ll give you a well-deserved feeling of control and make you healthier to boot!

Could your loons be birthing too? You seem to be further north, but maybe birthing happens the same time everywhere… :shrug:

Robin Hope your DIL is feeling better soon! Sorry about the pc’s. Can you just pay extra to install a different OS? Or perhaps the problem isn’t with Vista exactly, but something else that’s ‘new and improved’. My DH just got a laptop with Vista and he complains constantly about how unforgiving Vista is with any old peripherals. And, like us, our peripherals are ALL old.

Hope you are happily on plan today!

Tera Glad to see your pain is down a smidgen. Credit for getting up early and going FAR to swim today! Great idea to wash all your clothes before you move. I hate unpacking anything dirty in a new place. So silly since it’s all bound to get dirty eventually… ;)

06-18-2009, 08:12 PM
One thing you might want to do is reflect (when it's not mealtime) on why you're rushing through your food.
I don't really know. I've always done it. I know I can slow it down if I remember to. I did at Golden Corral a few weeks ago. Although the last two days I have slowed down my breakfast cause I actually remember at that point. I ate slowly at lunch due to my very hot hot stew. My tongue is still burnt! I did actually purposely slow my eating at dinner. No post its needed! Two out of three is pretty good since it's only the second day of trying to slow my eating. I've done pretty well sitting and eating. There was only one time I didn't. Tomorrow I work overtime again. I like the extra money but sometimes it's tiring.

All day today I've been listening to health/fitness/weight loss/nutrition podcasts on my MP3 player. I wish I could find more, especially with all these 10 hour days!

Now, to go read Beck!

06-19-2009, 08:58 AM
Good morning Coaches:

Here are my stats: today's WI= +1.0
yesterday's stats: Calories 3,003
Fat (g) 123
Carbs (g) 366
Prot (g) 157
Sodium(mg) 5198

I switched my nutrition tracking to from Dailyplate gives me the sodium count without asking so I am going to report it. I think I need to try to bring the sodium numbers down but for now the plan of action on sodium is to become more aware of it; to connect it up with the rest of my food and with my water weight gain.

Dailyplate also tells me that my target calories to lsoe 2lbs a week is 2405:shrug: Myself, I would never say a target calorie count is 2400 anything. I'd be aiming for 1/2 that: 1200. I think this may be a clue as to why my weight is here and I want it to be there. So, given this, I am only over 600 calories for the day and the previous two days I was under so I'm doing great!

In terms of cutting back this weeks focus foods, I did have 2% milk in my coffee today once. credit. I had the half and half the other time. I did plan ahead credit but when I came home I was ravenous and I couldn't feel full no matter what I did. I did write about it credit and this insatiable feeling came on the tail of feeling immense relief to have completed an unofficial printmaking course yesterday and to realizing I had some off time. I was both tense (worried why I had time off what am I forgetting?) and thrilled because I haven't had free time in a while. But I just ate and could not get full. I tracked it and I ate early and stopped early, but it was disconcerting. And then DH came up from the basement where he works all day and says "want this for dinner?" and it was breaded chicken wings and I said YES all the while knowing the fat content on those things is enormous but I wanted them. I know enough from the Thin for Life book that one meal does not a wrecked foodplan or week make. I also know this from Beck (can I have a collective Oh Well here?), but I don't think I really believed this. I am choosing to believe it today. I refuse the chain of negative thoughts that deviating from a plan would trigger. Not this time. I am going forward. So long as I am fulfilling my weekly goals I am on plan.

Daimere Hi! What came to my mind about eating fast was how good I am at it, I really am, and what has worked to slow me down is to force me to put my fork down and stop. Or to put the sandwich down, whatever I am eating to physically just put the thing down. Also to stop for a drink of water, or whatever you have, again all to just break the fixation with getting the food in as fast as I can. I understand about long work days and feeling tired. I hope you get a nice break soon.

ChinaMaine Sorry to see your fatigue number so high. I know you are taking care of yourself and I give you a credit for that! I had no idea a baby loon would ride on their mom's back and snooze!!!! Thanks so much for that visual. Don't you think that'd be such a great ride?

twilit tera Big Credit for getting your exercise in when you can in your unsettled circumstances. Sounds like a great place you're moving into. Yay! And yeah, graduating in a classroom is weird but there are only 8 graduates in total and our work is at the school, all over the main floor in two galleries and the showcase windows down the hall, so doing it somewhere else would be strange-people would have to traipse over to see the work then. Less than a week to the big event...

RobinW I know lots of pc builders and I would trust them...of course I know them know them so I already trust them! Maybe you can get that Vista off the computer? I've read many people have dropped down to XP (or whatever their previous OP was) to keep their PC's working. Maybe the pcbuilder can install it for you? Sorry to hear about your SIL. I hope she's better. Credit to you for getting back on track.

maryblu I too feel like I just want this really bad right now, so I relate to you wanting to get those pounds OFF!. Beck does give us all the tools for every occasion. I am finding that my new best book, Thin for Life, is totally echoing Beck. The two are like hand in glove... and reading it is renewing my faith and desire to really use Beck once more. Happy gardening. Hope you get some good sunny plant growing weather today.

Greenville Beth Congrats on continuing to be below 230! And I'd say a 20-25 min lunchtime walk is great! Lots and lots of people do less... credit for making the time/finding the time in your busy schedule for moving. That's solid Beck thinking ;)

wndranne Credit for the planning. It's really a fantastic thing to do isn't it?:hug:

Everyone have a great Friday.

06-19-2009, 10:07 AM
Coaches/Buddies I obviously didn't get in to post last night. And I have reasons like DD's gymnastics night sapped every last bit of civility and sanity from me and I spent an hour in the shower just staring at the wall. But that is an excuse. Other than that, I was on plan for yesterday, which did include a nice, planned treat meal at my favorite Thai restaurant.

onebyone Great news on the water release!

I have a couple of unsolicited thoughts that you may take or leave as you see fit. Calorie calculators are notoriously unreliable. I'd recommend picking a level that is doable and (mostly) comfortable for you and shooting for that. I try to ride about 1800, with some occasional upward deviations.

For my coffee, I use nonfat dry milk instead of creamer. I can get the coffee a little "creamier" than liquid milk of any variety that way, and I get a decent hit of protein and calcium without any suspicious stuff added in.

And did I mention that you are doing great!

maryblu I too miss BillBE. I hope he is having fun.

I always think it is sort of interesting the issues that we struggle with in losing and maintaining weight. I want to eat enormous quantities of food all the time. Other people have trouble exercising. Others have sugar or bingeing issues. No wonder this is hard. We all have to find our own path, and it doesn't look like anyone else's.

Robin Sending healing thoughts for your DIL, and calm thoughts to you as you watch the grands.

Tera Hurray for the pool! Hope your day with your mom and the forms went great. The new stuff at the new pad sounds cool.

ChinaMaine Sorry about the fatigue levels and hope your self-diagnosis gives you some new paths to try. Smiling at the loons.

Daimere It is always good to identify an issue, because then you can work on it.


06-19-2009, 12:16 PM
Dear Beckies,

I found all your posts very interesting; some were downright enlightening.

Onebyone, thanks for the tip on the dailyplate. Sodium is my new witch hunt, now that trans fats are politically incorrect everywhere. Not even so much for the fluid retention, but for the silent damage it does to arteries, etc.

I am glad TFL echoes Beck and helps you reinforce what you need for focus.

I have never really shared with any of my dear Beckies how I originally lost the 80#s 7 or 8 years ago. It was effortless. I just got full. I ate less and lost weight. Who knew? Of course I am being bit facetious and glib, but I ate exactly, and I do mean EXACTLY what I wanted, just considerably less. Eating slowly and appreciatively was a big part of that. If I was hungry again in 3 hours,that was about right..and I never felt "full" back to that not wanting to feel full feeling again and it is what works for me.

Nothing tastes as good as food does when you are hungry.

No clue on how to help anyone find that mindset, intuition, whatever you call it, any more than I know how to convince myself to do some purposeful exercise, just wanted to share it.

The one thing that makes sense to me for those of us with a lot to lose is that we can do it without cutting calories so severely in the beginning. We have to balance that, however, with our very well documented penchant for underestimating our calorie intake by A LOT. :-)

Chinamaine, the backride of baby loons is wonderful, and I love the way you described it. The most extraordinary thing I have ever seen with loons and their behavior is a synchronized swim. was late in Nov. the day before freeze up, and out my window I say 20 + swimming/floating ..and one by one, one would bob and then pop back up, then another...must have been a coordinated fishing effort or something. I felt as if I had seem something very remarkable.

Glad it is NOT Nov!

twilit tera
06-19-2009, 12:21 PM
WI: scale's still packed
Pain: 0/4/8
Activity: 4

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, tolerating hunger :yay: :yay:, Physical therapy :yay: :yay: :), ice packs :yay::yay: :yay:... taking care of mom :woo:, doing laundry :woo:

Pain is more due to laundry than Mom. Even though I used the reacher to lift things off the floor and out of the washer, I still felt that pain level creeping higher each time. Usually, B and I do laundry together. He does the load swapping and we both fold.

I'm glad Anne mentioned the forms. I got them all done in a single day! I don't see any instructions to send in documentation, but I think I'll call them and provide Dr. R's contact info, since I wasn't seeing her when I first applied.

Today is starting out pretty rough. Had to get up in the middle of the night to help mom with her equipment, and we got to talking and ended up staying up an hour and a half. What is it about 2am that's so conducive to good communication?

Today's schedule includes more packing. I'm going to be pretty miserable by Sunday. I honestly don't know how on plan I'll be through the move. I'm going to drink as much water as possible, and that should help... I may take a nap today.

ChinaMaine: Yikes on the fatigue! To be honest, the thought crossed my mind that menopause might be a factor, considering the weird cycles you're having, but I didn't know if fatigue was known to be a symptom of that transition or not.

Daimere: :yay: :yay: :yay: for all the success you have slowing down your meals. Don't let an occasional slip color your self-perception! :D

:yay: for continuing through Beck.

onebyone: :yay: for accepting a more realistic goal in your calorie budget. :yay: for tracking your binge and :yay: for analyzing it. Super-:yay: for getting right back on track!

I have a couple of thoughts to add to Anne's excellent advice. Several things are going to affect your calorie requirements. One is how much activity you have during the day. The more active you are, the more food you need. I tend to eat more on days like the past couple, where packing keeps me moving more than days when I'm laying back most of the day. So I have to be flexible to figure in extra work.

The other major thing you'll want to account for is weight. The less you weigh, the less work your body must do every time you move, thus the fewer calories you need. One of the reasons the calorie allottment is so high right now is that you are literally weight lifting all day long. As you slim down, you can reduce calories gradually.

Yippy for less than a week to graduation! I'm amazed at how small the class is! Now the classroom makes a little more sense.

Anne: Being drained is not merely an excuse, it is a legitimate cause. If you spent an hour in the shower staring at the wall, that's probably because that's what you really needed. Remember, you are not compelled to post here at all - all there is is your choices, and you must take care of yourself in order to be a functioning group member. I'm glad you were on plan, especially since you were not at your best.

06-19-2009, 02:37 PM

DIL is out and home...doing fine, but on pain meds again. :(

Hubs ordered his pc yesterday. It will have all the stuff he needs, and the fella who builds them told us he builds them for businesses rather than home pcs. Keeping the positive thoughts going on this one!!

Im sooooooooooooo far of plan! I just need to get out of my own way and get on with it.

:wave: have a great weekend everyone! Bill if you are peaking in...have a great fathers day!

06-20-2009, 09:24 AM
Hello coaches

today's WI: -0.2 just under 270
yesterday's stats: Calories 1,923
Fat (g) 74
Carbs (g) 198
Prot (g) 122
Sodium (mg) 4,366

Well I was super hungry yesterday too. I did do a fair amount of walking credit more than normal outside on one of our first humid days. It was sunny, not too hot, but humid for sure. At my current weight I sweat like crazy and once I start it takes a while for my body to decide it's done with that. I am also flushing bright red more often than I used to. I always turn red when I get tired (I have very fair skin) and I can tell I am sleepy because my inner temperature just rises like a little furnace...
all this may also be the beginning of The Change and yeah, there is one other sign of that, but whatever. It's all natural ain't it?
So even though I was ravenous I made a better choice yesterday. I grabbed a giant homemade beef and barley soup from the freezer. It was about 4 cups worth and I figured it would fill me up and satisfy me. It almost did.
I seem to be one of those that craves giant quantities of food for sure. I was waiting for my Volumetrics book from off of ebay but I got an email saying it was damaged, opened and the package returned empty to the seller when he tried to ship it to me so he refunded my money. :?: I've been ebaying since '98 and this is the first time for this. DH said he probably didn't have the book or couldn't find it. The seller refunded my money but I have to find it and try again. I think Volumetrics would help. This being full business reminded me that that crazy woman, Susan Powter, what was her program... oh yeah Stop the Insanity...her recipes were all about filling up with low fat and all bulk. I had her book and maybe I'll come across it again once I get back to the clearing out of my stuff. Bet there is a useful recipe in there for me. i just have to skip the rest of the "advice" in that book.

Okay I have a couple of hours now to get ready for a show. I am doing the Ottawa Small Press Book Fair this afternoon. Gotta find my one page books and fold up the ones I printed yesterday and get going. I'm looking forward to it.

Enjoy your Saturday. :wave: to all the Dads who may lurk...

06-20-2009, 10:08 AM
NSV: I was finally able to do the Tree pose in yoga. :yoga: This pose involves standing first your right leg, then your left. While one legged, you place the other leg perpendicular to the standing leg and then you move your arms around in a way that forces you to maintain your balance (for what seems like forever). This pose comes up in my wii game about 1-2 times a week and I’ve been trying to do it since I got the wii last November. Today, I finally was able to resist putting down my other leg throughout the entire move. :yay: I’m still wobbly, still weaving like a drunken sailor, but one-legged the entire time! ;)
:df: WI-down 1 lb. (new low) Read my cards and made a plan. Food – op. I did make a last minute substitution for dinner that dropped my fiber intake for the day into what MFD indicates is unhealthy (4% of calories), so that’s something I’d like to keep an eye on. I’ve been much more successful the last few weeks keeping my fiber above 5% per day.

:Exercise – op. Fatigue 2.3 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). It was nice to feel much more close to normal in terms of fatigue. My motivation was still squat, but it was Friday… ;)

I always think it is sort of interesting the issues that we struggle with in losing and maintaining weight. I want to eat enormous quantities of food all the time. Other people have trouble exercising. Others have sugar or bingeing issues. No wonder this is hard. We all have to find our own path, and it doesn't look like anyone else's.
Anne I love that quote. I’m modifying that slightly and have added it as an RC. It’s one of the most powerful things I’ve learned from this group, and it won’t hurt to be reminded every day.

Ouch for losing ‘every last bit of civility and sanity’ at DDs gymnastics class. An hour in the shower seems like a tonic under the circumstances. I hope Friday and the rest of the weekend go better.

Damiere I have a feeling that slowing down your eating will have a big difference for you. :)

one by one I think it’s great to keep any eye on your sodium levels. Certainly what you had yesterday is quite high, and will cause you to retain water. I’m not sure sodium is quite the boogie man it’s painted to be, but keeping your sodium levels down has got to be better for your overall health.

Even more important to your overall success is realizing that you can eat more than 1200 calories a day and still lose weight. I don’t know if you read the first or the second Beck book. I read the second book, and the beginning of ‘Stage 2’ had a formula for determining your calorie goals. Based on that formula I could eat 2000 calories a day, and I almost fell over! I use the 2000 calorie a day goal for weekends, and 1700 for weekdays. It is freeing to be able to eat normal amounts of good tasting food and still lose an average of a pound a week. I hope you try some kind of higher calorie plan – something in the range of 1800 – 2400 calories. I think you are MUCH more likely to stick to a plan like that, than you are to a 1200 calorie a day diet. Also, Beck makes the point that if you start at 1200 calories a day, you can’t drop your calories at all when you hit a plateau. And we all hit a plateau sooner or later… :) Part of her plan in Book 2, is dropping your daily calorie intake by 200 calories a day when you hit a plateau.

But you’ll find your own path – I don’t mean to preach. So if I came off that way – please just ignore me! ;)

maryblu Love the synchronized loon story. I’ve never seen anything like that! Except for the family unit I see during the late spring, early summer – loons here seem to run in groups of 1-4, not 20. And it’s hard to imagine what benefit would come of synchronized fishing…

Tera I hope your pain levels drop back down after your move is over and you’ve unpacked. It turns out that fatigue is one of the most common symptoms of menopause – I didn’t realize that either. Something about levels of estrogen being higher than levels of progesterone.

Robin :yay: DIL at home. :yay: new pc is ordered. :( off-plan, :( DIL on pain meds. I hope you have a great weekend!

06-20-2009, 11:33 AM
Coaches/Buddies Another morning post! Weigh in this morning gets me (finally) to the 5 lb goal I made 5/1, so onward and downward. Did well yesterday. My new doc is fabulous and we are working on sleep and migraine issues.

Oh, yeah, DD is driving me batty.

maryblu Thanks for sharing how you managed your big loss. Maybe someday we can do a mind meld and I'll know how to eat and you'll know how to exercise.

Tera Take care of yourself with all this packing. It is definitely exercise! Thanks for you kind words about my posting habits. It is my choice to post for sure, but I made it a while ago.

RobinW Get out of your own way!! Sending on plan vibes.

onebyone Congrats on your better choices. Sorry the Volumetrics book didn't show. Here's WebMD's summary in the meantime:

ChinaMaine Score on the tree pose! I've tried that. It is HARD!

I'm glad my words were helpful and thanks for your good thoughts.

Happy Solstice. Probably back tomorrow night--today is nonstop and tomorrow morning I'm riding.


06-20-2009, 07:25 PM
DH and I planted our last bed of the year today. Our favorite nursery had a big sale. In addition, we poked around in the far reaches of their property and found 3.99 perennials that also were 20% off. This bed will (hopefully) peak in August and has Black Eyed Susans, 2 kinds of Phlox, Daisies and Delphinium. It was a lot of fun!
:df: WI-up .75 lbs Read my cards, but didn’t make a plan. Food – op in terms of calories. Exercise – op. Fatigue 2.2 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

Anne :woohoo: for hitting your 5 lb goal! And :yay: :yay: for a fabulous doc! They are hard to come by; hope your sleep and migraine issues get under control soon. With 2 children under the age of 3 (I think I have that right…), it’s no wonder at least one of them is driving you batty. ;) I hope she moves past her current ‘stage’ soon.

06-20-2009, 11:22 PM
Coaches/Buddies Today went OK. Sleep helped and I even got a nap in. Still looking forward to more sleep tonight. On plan foodwise and getting in a brick (bike/run) workout tomorrow.

ChinaMaine Your gardening sounds fun!

Slow day today. Hope everyone is doing well. Happy Solstice!


twilit tera
06-20-2009, 11:27 PM
Not a full report tonight, beckies. Just checking in to let y'all know we got through the move. Scampers adjusted quickly to the new place and we have tonnes of stuff everywhere to go through and find places for, but in all, I call this one a success.

Definitely a step up from our old place. We no longer live in the smallest apartment on earth. I think I deserve lots of credit today!

Robin: Glad the DIL is home safe and sound.

onebyone: :yay: for seeing a gap in your program and filling it volumetrically (in spite of ebay shipping problems)!

ChinaMaine: :woo: for onelegged posing, for being on plan, and for dropping more weight! I'm glad the fatigue has come down some so you had the energy to do all that!

Anne: :woo: for reaching another goal! Hurrah for finding a good doctor to help you improve your overall health!

Yes, I could definitely feel the impact of all that work, though I didn't do any lifting (that woulda put me out of commission) FitDay says I burned around 1200 extra calories, and I was reporting conservatively!

06-20-2009, 11:30 PM

Greenville Beth
06-21-2009, 12:28 AM
Hello, All. Sorry I've been missing in action. I've been working 12 + hour days. Honestly, by the time I get home, I am just too tried to post. Today was my first day off in over two weeks. I didn't get to enjoy it much. I had to run around all day, something I hate, to catch up on all the things I haven't been able to do lately.

The exciting news is that I got my bike today! I'm broke now, but happy! I've gotten it all ready to ride. I'm hoping to ride tomorrow, but I'm not sure I will be able to fit it in. I have to work and in the morning we are doing a brunch for my father, and when I get off of work, I have to mow my folks yard. That may do it for me tomorrow. I'll work it out somehow.

I've been completely on plan. Credit me.

I'm too tired for personals tonight, but I will get caught up tomorrow. I did want to say to Daimere that I too used to eat super fast. I did that until I started this program. What really helped me was like someone else said putting down my fork or food between bites. I also would count to 30 between bites. It really did great things for me. My small meals fill me up before or by the time I finish them. I enjoy them more and they look and feel like more food. I love having that sense of fullness, not over full, but fullness by the time I finish my meal. It really helps me not over eat. I don't count to 30 now, but I do set my fork down and draw my meal out. It's worth the effort to get into the habit. If I can do it anyone can.

The scale was up a pound due to TOM. I'm hoping to see it slide back down soon.

Hello to everyone else. I've been reading your posts and cheering everyone on. More tomorrow.

All best,


06-21-2009, 10:18 AM
Hello coaches

Here are yesterday's numbers. I was over by 274 = my brownie treat :dizzy:it was super good though. I don't regret it today. Nope.

WI: +0.4
Calories: 2,674
Fat: 79g
Sodium: 4,090mg
Carbs: 262g
Protein: 39g

Mood-wise I was mopey after coming back from the small press book fair. I felt like an outsider and I felt like I missed being a writer and then I felt like I can't do everything sheesh. I think I pushed my feelings about contacting my family to invite them to my graduation, see above feelings, and then i felt them after the show. Feelings are complicated sometimes. And then I dreamt of feeling disconnected last night. But this morning I am better and have a date for dogwalking in a few minutes so I have to get going. They are my friend's enormous dogs. After that it's off to the farmers' market and then off to school to iron my giant print for the grad show. Wish me luck on that one!

Better run. Have a good Sunday Beckster Chums.

twilit tera
06-21-2009, 10:58 AM
WI: +.5 (over 3 days)
Pain: 0/3/5 (Took an extra Aleve in the morning since I knew what I was in for)
Activity: 5

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, Oodles of Activity :yay:, taking medicinal precautions :yay:, getting through the move :woohoo:

I think the slight gain is on top of a big loss and due to water retention, we had a lot of fast food yesterday, but I still had a calorie deficit. That yells salt to me.

Beth: :hug: You are always welcome to post exactly however much you can. We all go through periods where it's just plain impossible.

onebyone: Sorry you hit that emotional speedbump. I might have missed something. Did you invite family to graduation and get refusals or something?

06-21-2009, 11:28 AM
Good Morning

Im getting there....

Usually Im clamouring for something sweet first thing in the morning, and Im starting to feel ready. I dont know if that makes sense to anyone else. But it is a good place for me.

I have had issues with sleeping for as long as I can remember. Up until my little hospital scare a couple weeks ago I took 2 benadryl every night before I went to bed. Worked like a charm 98% of the time.

I quite taking them. I talked to my brother about it because he is the same way. But with stress from work he would literally be up for 2 or sometimes 3 days with no real sleep. He'd go to bed, but lay there and think all night. Well something had to give, and he ended up at the dr's office, and after alot of trial and error with different sleeping pills. The dr finally told him to try melatonine .3mg every night. It is the only thing that has worked consistently for him for almost 2 yrs now.

I did some research on this stuff, and Im wondering if my lack of food/sugar cravings are due to taking this? I dont know...but Im sleeping! The stressful feeling isnt nearly as intense as it was last week.

We got the ambulance bill yesterday :eek: :eek: :eek: I thought it was the hospital bill at first :eek: But when hubby said, no thats just the ambulance I got a bit freaked, but then just put it to the side, and will get paid, lets not worry about it.

Im off to the library today. There are a couple books I want to pick up. I had them a long time ago and I havent a clue where they are now. But Ive met someone who is following this program...and her story is so similar to mine its wild! She is under control and in what she calls "recovery". I'll give it a read, and if I think it will work I'll give it a try. Coupling it up with Beck might be a very powerful tool for me. We'll see.

Beth~ Kudos for being OP!! :cb:

Tera~ how is your mom doing?

onebyone~ no we can't do it all. Ive always wanted to write too, but childrens books. Seems my dd has the knack for putting words maybe she can write, and I can illustrate? Have you thought about something like that? You can even publish your own books thru different sites. Its pretty cool. My dd is pretty jazzed about the idea.

ChinaMaine~ Yah for nursery's having big sales!!!!!! Sounds like you have lots of garden spaces.

Anne~ :wave:

Have a wonderful day everyone, and a wonderful father's day!

Greenville Beth
06-21-2009, 10:50 PM
Today was a pretty good day overall. I'm down that 1 pound of water weight plus a bit more. Credit me.

I didn't get to mow my folks lawn or ride my new bike after work today as it was raining.

Not much else going on here. Everything is good. I'm just a bit tired. I think that is due to getting used to working the long hours. I hope in time that goes away.

Oh, I did do quite well this morning. We had a brunch for my father and I followed my plan and stayed on track. I noticed, but did not comment, on just how much everyone else ate. I'd say 4 to 5 times the amount I did. The funny thing is, I was full and even a touch too full with my small amount of food. I love that! It was a large breakfast for me, I'd say 500 calories, but I used my breakfast calories and a few of my lunch calories, so it worked out. Credit me for sticking to my plan. You know what they say, fail to plan and plan to fail.

I have several social events this week, lunch out, dinner out, and maybe another evening out. I will have to plan very well to keep the scale moving downward.

RobinW - Hey that's great progress, not wanting sweets in the morning. Credit. I know how it feels not to sleep. I've always had problems as well. I find that if I take the same thing to sleep night after night after about 3 nights it doesn't work, so I tend to mix it up. It's been working lately.

Tera - I hope your mother is doing well. I would imagine that being at home makes her a bit more comfortable. It's truly amazing how quickly she came home after such a major operation.

Moving is always a huge pain. The only reward is how nice a new place looks / feels once all the boxes are empty and it becomes home. Do take some time to enjoy.

Onebyone - I hope the graduation goes well. I'm sure you'll be happy when it is all over. Take some time to catch your breath. It also looks like your plan is going well. Credit for finding something that works for you.

Anne - Hope you enjoyed your ride today. I can't wait to start riding my bike. I did sit on it for a minute yesterday to check the seat height and such. My backside started to hurt immediately. Yikes. I always hate the first week or so when I haven't been riding for awhile. After that, the pain seems to go away. I guess, that's the price to be paid for not riding!

ChinaMaine - You must have quite the gardens. I love flowers, not so much into the veggies, but I don't ever seem to get them in. Too much work, I suppose, and I'm too lazy.

Hope everyone had a good day.

06-21-2009, 10:53 PM
I slept over 10 hours last night. DH and I had a few more plants to put in the ground today. Before we headed out to do it, I got very tired and said I’d take a quick power nap. 3 hours later DH woke me up to let me know we could eat dinner whenever I liked. :( So, I didn’t get any exercise in today…

WI-unchanged Read my cards, made a plan. Food – off-plan by about 150 calories. I was very hungry today, but not for any good reason I could think of. Exercise – 0 minutes. Fatigue 2.7 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

I'm not feeling up to personals tonight. I'll try to catch up tomorrow. I hope everyone is doing well! :wave:

06-22-2009, 10:30 AM
:wave: Good Morning!

twilit tera
06-22-2009, 10:50 AM
WI: steady
Pain: 1/3/7
Activity: 4

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, insisting on IHOP for breakfast so I could order from the light menu (as opposed to local greasy diner that probably didn't even have a light menu) :yay:, not finishing pancakes :yay:, ignoring donuts that have been in fridge since yesterday morning :yay:, resisting samples at Costco (except quarter cup of green tea) :yay:, getting most of the kitchen and bedroom unpacked :yay:.

There is still so much work to do here. The living room is the worst of it, containing everything that will eventually be packed away in the utility room. But B and I already love the place. We keep discovering ways that the new place makes us feel more comfortable... the extra 12 inches from one side of the kitchen to the other, the wide hallway to the bedroom, the extra shelves in the bathroom. Scampers Underfoot finally has a place where he can again live up to his name. (For two years, he's just been Underfoot without the Scampers.)

I think I have a real strategy for dealing with the hip pain. Knowing how much Aleve I can safely take, and how it affects my pain levels... well, if you notice my pain level is much higher yesterday than the day before, and I believe that's because I took a third less naproxen. Knowing that long-term use of NSAIDs can ruin my liver (and I really don't need any help with that), I'm going to adjust my dose based on my anticipated activity level, and take only 1 at bedtime from now on (or at least until I see Dr. Rashid on the first of July).

I haven't heard from Mom over the course of the move, but I expect an update today. (Did I mention we had to take her shopping last Thursday? She insisted we take her to Avenue to get some comfy trousers and then to Jarrod's jewelers to order her Med-alert charm bracelet!)

Robin: Good luck finding that book and I hope it works for you. I can't say I've ever gone through what you're experiencing. I've had sweet cravings, but I think they were pretty much emotional. Not constant, inexplicable hunger for sweets like you described. At least you're sleeping well!

Beth: :yay: for sticking to plan during a big family brunch! You're doing so well working your plan into your busy schedule!

06-22-2009, 09:59 PM
found the books at the library!! :broc: :cb:

Im stocked up on strawberries, and some assorted veggies that arent the same ole thing.

06-22-2009, 10:18 PM
Saw a doc today. She says having TOM 4 times in 7 weeks could be due to either menopause or thyroid. So, I had blood drawn to determine if it’s menopause or not. I hope it is; it’s been 35 years and I’m ready to be well rid of it.
:df: WI-up .5 lbs. Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op. Well op in terms of calories. I did stop at McDonalds for a small fry on the way home from the docs. Somehow my sat fat and fiber numbers are up to snuff too. I thought for sure I was blowing the numbers out of the water with those tasty fries. Go figure. :shrug:

Exercise – op. Fatigue 2.8 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

It’s another flyby – I’ll try to catch up tomorrow. Good night all! :wave:

06-22-2009, 11:25 PM
Reporting in with my stats coaches before I head to bed:

today's WI: -2 (268.2 this morning)
yesterday's stats: Calories 1228
Fat (g) 19
Carbs (g) 192
Prot (g) 74
Sodium (mg) 3439

I did major walking in major heat yesterday. It was good. I'm out of shape. No surprise there. credit for the walk then and today too. Also a major amount (which gave me a major blister).

I felt awful this morning and hello TOM. Sneak attack. The mood shift should have been a clue but it wasn't. let's get the painful first day or so overwith before the grad sneak peek on Wed afternoon. credit to my bodily cycle for that one...

I have had anxiety dreams like crazy the past few nights. In my dreams all is frozen, including the sonic boom of a stealth bomber! That was last night. Holymoly can I have a more apt metaphor for being frozen, waiting for the big boom, the blast, the getting graduated already? Today we got the room ready fpor the ceremonies and our work is sitting in the gallery waiting to be put up. At least we don't do that. SO GLAD. I wish I had tomorrow off but I don't. I have to do work inthe ceramic room, making a glze for the class. But after that I can come home and flake out. Wed is busy as is Thursday. wed night I got us tickets to see a favorite singer Fred Eaglesmith. So happy to be going to see him! That was my grad present to myself.

Ok time for bed. Credit to me for getting through.

Have a good evening folks.

06-23-2009, 12:18 AM
Coaches/Buddies Ho Hum. I did skip my run this morning, but I desperately needed the sleep. I like ho hum.

Tera Congrats on accomplishing your move! Hope your salt flushes soon. Hope your strategy for the hip pain works out.

Robin :wave: I have major sugar issues when I'm not sleeping, but otherwise not too bad. I think that definitely could be a factor for you.

Beth Hooray for the bike! Have you taken it on its maiden voyage yet? Nice job on the controlled breakfast in the face of abundance.

onebyone Life is too short not to have a brownie treat once in a while, especially if you planned it. And perhaps once in a great while, even if you didn't.

Hooray for under 270 again! I think you are doing very well.

ChinaMaine Hope today was a better day for you. Some days are hungry. Who knows why? Hope you get the results you are looking for with the menopause test.

Have a good one, Beckies.


twilit tera
06-23-2009, 09:07 AM
WI: -.5 new low :woohoo:
Pain: 0/4/8
Activity: 4

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, water :yay:, PT :yay:, books shelved :yay:, collectables and holiday decorations stored :yay:, bathroom nearly organized :yay:

There's little left that I can do. The rest is either tools or furniture, all of which B is going to have to deal with. Tonight we are scheduled to be at Carter Blood Care, but that should take an hour at the very most.

I just saw my cat zip past me. It's so nice to see him running again!

I haven't said it in a while, and I think it's time to announce that I will be so on plan today!

:carrot: Robin!

ChinaMaine: I'm glad you got into the doctor's office and :crossed: that it's menopause.

onebyone: :yay: for staying on plan and for all that :walk:! Hang in there. Graduation's right around the corner; you're almost through it.

Anne: I hope you're having a well-rested day!

06-23-2009, 10:09 AM
We are not as lively a group without BillBE, are we? Heaven only knows what adventures he is having!

Still, everyone is moving along, solving problems, making discoveries.

Still too bummed out to be wanting to eat. Milking that for all it is worth. The word I think is melancholy. There is a nagging sadness behind all that I do, but that in turn makes the bright spots brighter, and the regular joys, treats of summer all the sweeter. I know that last summer I was so caught up in my workload, so determined to get a lot of new gardens in place and planted, and so taking for granted the most important parts of my life because they were all there, summer whizzed by without my savoring each day. I have been determined not to let that happen this summer.

Got so hot mowing and weeding last night, I almost took a dip. Almost. Talked to a neighbor from a nearby lake yesterday and she said the water temp. is 67 degrees. If her shallower lake is only 67 degrees, I'll be the water here is only 60. Haven't dipped a toe in yet.

Enjoy your day, all.

06-23-2009, 01:49 PM
Anne Kudos for the ho hum and glad you were able to catch up on sleep.

Tera I’m glad your move is going so well. :woohoo: for the New Low! It’s neat that the chain diners have healthy options now. I had a great breakfast at Jimmy Dean’s when I visited my son’s. I have found you can ask at most diner’s to cook your breakfast ‘dry’ (no added oil, non-stick spray only). I do this at a diner we go to in South Dakota, and it works quite well. You might try it if you get stuck at a ‘regular’ diner sometime.

Robin Ouch for the ambulance bill! But I’m glad you found the books at the library.

Beth Kudos for getting a new bike. Hope you make it out for a ride soon! Credit for flexibly adjusting your plan to allow you to enjoy the brunch. And extra credit for staying op when you are tired!

one by one the brownie sounds so yummy! Credit for all the walking, and keeping track of your daily stats. Yikes for the dream! Hope you dream of floating in sunny Caribbean surf tonight!

maryblu :hug: for feeling melancholy. But credit for making the effort to be in the moment and savoring every day. :sunny:

I'll be back with a report later tonight! :wave:

twilit tera
06-23-2009, 06:23 PM
I made my first ever batch of home-made granola... and exchanged the powdered milk in the recipe for whey protein.

Maryblu: sending :goodvibes for consistently warm weather to heat up your lake!


06-23-2009, 09:54 PM
Had a good day. :yay: I had no fatigue and worked a full day with some spunk to spare!

:df: WI-down .5 lbs. Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op. Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.2 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

06-24-2009, 12:13 AM
Coaches/Buddies I upped my calorie target by a couple hundred (to 2000) recently with all the exercise I'm doing. Feels like a lot. Food was mostly on plan today. I ate a small cookie at work, but I was legitimately hungry. Not an emergency, I know.

I ran this morning. It was hot by the time I was done. 4.5 miles total, but the last mile was tough with a couple walk breaks. Oh well.

Tomorrow is mountain biking in the am, and an aquathlon race in the evening. Thursday is a rest day!!

Tera :high: on that new low. Glad your cat is settled in. Hoping B gets the rest of your stuff together. LOL on the wwbd granola! Is it yummy?

maryblu I miss BillBE too! Hope he's having fun. Glad you are enjoying your brights spots and wishing you more of them. Dip a toe in that chilly water next time!

ChinaMaine Hurray for spunk!!

:wave: to onebyone, Beth and everyone else!


06-24-2009, 08:46 AM
Good Morning :sunny:

Im getting there!!!! No unplanned food except for a banana yesterday :cb: :cb:

Even went to workout with pt. The bad news about that...she's about as over worked as I am and plans to take a few weeks off. She's also letting some of her clients go. Im happy for her tho, she really needs to back off a bit. After talking to her about the hours she is putting in....she isnt leaving any time for herself. None!!

Things are crazy busy at the shop, gus macker tees for this weekend, and a cancer run this weekend as well has us hopping.

Has anyone here tried potaotes not prozac? I had tried it 10yrs ago when it first came out....but Im not sure how it went :lol: Im going to see if this will help with the sugar issues. The program was first put together for alcoholics, and Ive always thought sugar addiction and alcohol addiction were linked. As far as this author is. It would be wonderful if this was the "answer" and stopped the crazy crap in my head.

When I get like excess weight is the 2nd issue, the first right now is getting the "control" back. Control for me, is getting the sugar crazies in line.

Im off.....doing pretty good today so far!! Have a great day everyone :wave:

twilit tera
06-24-2009, 10:14 AM
WI: steady
Pain: 0/2/5
Activity: 3

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, PT :yay:, shoes :yay:, making granola :yay:, setting up payment plans for my med bills :yay:, donating blood :yay:

I think I'm about to hit another big drop in my weight. It just seems like about that time again. ;)

The apartment is very nearly unpacked. There are just a few things left, then B gets a week of vacation, followed by a return to a normal routine.

ChinaMaine: Hooray for LOW fatigue level, lots of OP and a drop in weight!!

Anne: :yay: for running - I think it's fantastic the way you finish every race, whatever it takes to do it. Better to have the humility to take those walk breaks than to collapse 30 feet from the finish line.

The granola is delish, although it really needed cinnamon. Don't know why there wasn't any in the recipe, but it was easy to add... just put it all in a ziploc and shook it in. There's enough there to last me a month, and it's high protein, low fat, low sugar.... not to mention SO much less expensive than factory prepared. This could become a habit.

Robin: :woohoo: on the progress! I'm with you all the way on extra weight being a secondary issue. It's a symptom - you really need to address the causes to have any long-term success, so your attitude is right on target! (Although I must admit having never heard of Potatoes not Prozac before. Her program looks a lot like The Zone Diet which did have principles I continue to use, though I'm not a strict adherent.


I too can't wait for Bill to return and regale us with tales of his vacation. But it seems we're missing more than Bill...

Greenville Beth
06-24-2009, 10:46 AM
Good morning, All.

Not much going on. My weight is steady. I'm not thrilled about it, but it is that time of the month and I haven't been able to exercise much this week, which I hate. I'm sure it will drop next week. I'm quite close to my 10 lb goal.

This is the last week of our production, so starting next week I will be working normal hours, and starting next weekend, not this one but the next one, I will have two days off. That will give me a bit more time to exercise and ride my new bike.

Oh, I am excited about one thing. For the last 6 months or so I have been gaining and losing the same 20 lbs. I have offically lost those 20 and am in new weight loss. The last time I got to this weight, I went off plan and ignored the scale as it went up, up, up. Not this time. It's all down hill from here!

I'll try to do some personals tonight. I hope everyone has a great day!


06-24-2009, 08:48 PM
I'm back from vacation, and pleased that I gained only 3/4 of a pound--usually I gain at least 5! I did my 10,000+ steps every day but one, and I think that really helped. I also left food on my plate several times, and put the brakes on as much dessert as I really wanted! Bought a new scale, which goes by .2 lb increments to motivate myself. Checked out as a way to graph my weight. Did Zumba today. Will do personals tomorrow. Hope everyone had a good week.

06-24-2009, 09:35 PM
I didn’t sleep well last night but still had a good day. And DH made us a batch of Chipotle Mac and Cheese, yum! In many ways it’s nice to have him not working. ;)
I was planning to get 3 lb. hand weights for my next mini-goal reward, but DH found some old hand weights in storage yesterday. So I used the 3 pounders this AM for 3 sets; it felt good. :) I think I mentioned the lunge-squat combos that come up in my wii workouts all the time. I finally got used to them enough that I’m doing half the combos with 2 lb weights. It’s really kind of amazing how much I felt those 2 small changes to the workout. I had sweat dripping off me! :D But it doesn’t seem to have caused any fatigue. :woohoo:
:df: WI-down 1.5 lbs. (new low) Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op. Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.7 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

Anne Upping your calorie max to 2000 seems very reasonable in light of how much exercise you do. Credit for walking when it’s so hot. I hope your exercise goes well today…

Robin Credit for op eating! I think you’re right to concentrate on getting control back. Once you do that, staying op will be a cinch… Sorry about your pt though…

Tera :yay: for the lower pain levels! Glad that your unpacking is moving along too. Credit for calorie counting and making your own granola! It sounds quite yummy. :)

Beth :woohoo: for starting on the *next* 20 lbs! Your weight is on it’s way down, down, down.

Margaret Welcome back! Credit for being up on 3/4 of a pound. Hopefully all of that is water gain and will be gone in a jiffy! Kudos for walking so much every day, and making reasonable food choices!

twilit tera
06-25-2009, 10:44 AM
WI: -.5 new low
Pain: 0/3/5
Activity: 2

Credits: Calorie counting :yay:, water :yay:, :swim: :yay:, vitamins :yay:, anti-inflammatories :yay:, PT :yay:

I'm over at mom's through Saturday morning. She's doing so well. She's up and about quite a bit... as a caretaker, I really have very little to do now. If she needs a shot of insulin, I'll have to give it to her - her meds make her hands shake. I can fetch her things if she asks, but half the time she just gets up to get it herself.

Beth: Yay for looking at the facts and not worrying too much about the lack of weightloss. Holding steady during your TOM is an accomplishment IMO.

Hurray that you're heading into new weightloss. That's a wonderful feeling.

Margaret: Welcome back! (You were missed.) :yay: for getting so many steps in! :yay: for Zumba! :yay: for new scale!

I like being able to embed my skinnyr graph on my blog. I only update it when I hit a mini-goal these days, since I do daily tracking in FitDay.

ChinaMaine: :woohoo: 1.5lb drop! Congrats on your progress with the Wii Fit. I'm glad that it isn't causing you more fatigue. :)

06-25-2009, 10:58 AM
Coaches/Buddies Isn't it funny how it feels like we're on plan, even when we're not, as long as we are under our food budgets? So, off plan yesterday. It was busy, I was distracted, and forgot to eat. Weird. Double workout yesterday, with mountain biking in the morning, and aquathlon (swim/run) race in the evening. I'm getting so much better at MTB and it is really getting fun. The AQ stank, maybe because it was about 100 deg, or perhaps because I was improperly fueled. Oh well.

Robin Wishing you productive steps in getting control back. That is really the heart of the problem for me too. I know what I want to do, but doing it. Tough. NO CHOICE I guess. I'd love to eat the whole bag, but OH WELL, I can't.

Tera Adding cinnamon in to your granola sounds inspired. Congrats on your new low. Wonderful to hear that your mother is doing so well.

Beth :high: on the "new" weight loss. I love that feeling also. I have about 15 pounds to go. I can't say postpartum anymore, but hey.

Margaret Welcome back from vacation! Sounds like you did a fabulous job. I'm sure that tiny bit of weight will melt off and you'll be in the groove again. Oh yes, did you have fun?

ChinaMaine Glad you had a great day in spite of lack of sleep. Your fatigue numbers look good. You'll have to think up a new reward for your next goal.

And now, 'morning all. Hi ho, hi ho.


Greenville Beth
06-25-2009, 11:11 AM
Morning, All. It looks like today is going to be a good day. My weight is down again. I'm .4 lbs from my second 5 lb goal. I also realized that I've officially lost 50 lbs. Credit me. :D

Not much else going on. My work hours are going to be a bit better for the next few weeks, so I plan to really get my exercise levels up. I'm excited about that!

Anne - You're right that it is important to stick to your plan. Eatting too little can be an issue as well especially with all the exercise you do. Credit for catching it. By the way, what is MTB?

Tera - I'm glad to hear that your mother is doing so well. That's great news. Also, credit on the new low. That's exciting!

ChinaMaine - That mac and cheese does sound good. It is nice to have a house husband once in awhile. Great job on the weights. Credit on pushing yourself.

Margaret - Welcome back from the vacation. I hope you had a good time. It sounds like you did really well. I'm sure that the 3/4 of a pound is just water weight from eatting out. I bet in a few days you'll have a nice weight drop.

Hope everyone has a great day.


06-25-2009, 01:54 PM
:wave: coaches

No stats except the WI: 267.2 today.

I've been run off my feet but today is THE day. Graduation ceremonies at 5:15 to 7pm. In a very hot unconditioned room. I just need to get through it...

We had our Sneak Peek opening for the mucky-mucks and invited guests yesterday. I got interviewed by the local newspaper, complete with video and pictures. Lots of pictures. And here I am, at my almost top weight. More pictures taken with the group. More pictures by family members. More pictures tonight. I spent time buying a new jazzy shirt today. I should have been resting. We went out last night to see a favorite band and it was standing room only and it was HOT and I can't believe I am functioning right now... anyway, after dropping the rental car off at 9:30 I spent 2.5 hrs looking for something for tonight. The shirt I got has fabulous colour splotches and it is a constructed, I suppose tailored is another word for it, so the shirt has a shape. My body right now is all round and slouchy. There were so many great shirts and dresses I tried but they were all wrong. On this shirt the arms are tight but somehow it's okay. I think cause the shoulders and the collar are so well constructed. My upper arms are enormous so while this 3x shirt has a body I can swim in, the sleeves just fit. I'm glad this is a temporary state of affairs. ;)

Man I have to get to cutting up fruit and veggies for the party tonight. I'm still crazy busy but I get to sit on the couch and watch tv while I do that. That's not so bad coaches... not bad at all. But I have to run.

06-25-2009, 10:54 PM
WI-down .5 lbs. – Hit my 5 lb mini-goal! :woohoo: For my reward I ordered a fitness ball from amazon, and should get it tomorrow.

We’ve had a very cold, rainy spring here in the northeast. It’s felt and looked more like November than June for most of the month. I’ve been putting off buying shorts until the weather was warm enough to wear them. Today, it finally felt like summer – 80 degrees. So I stopped at Kohls on the way home from my piano lesson to get some shorts. I tried on size 14 shorts and they fit (well 1 pair was too small, but most of them fit…) When I joined this group I was teetering between size 18 and 20, I am thrilled. :dance:

:df: Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op. Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.0 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

Tera :yay: for new low! And happy to see your pain is down a bit. Best of all is the good news about your Mom.

Anne It’s true about feeling okay about being under calories, but not about over. It’s good you took note of the impact of being ‘under fueled’. I just noticed that I’ve only gotten 1230 calories so far, so I’m heading out to the kitchen to make my evening snack, even though I’m not really hungry. :)

Beth Credit for new low! And for hitting 50 lbs lost! I hit my 30 lbs lost milestone today too – it’s a nice feeling isn’t it? :) Good luck getting back to your exercise routine!

one by one :woohoo: for graduating!! And I’m glad you found a nice ‘well constructed’ shirt!

06-26-2009, 12:04 AM
onebyone~ Congratulations on graduating!!! That is just awesome!! :cb: :cb:

twilit tera
06-26-2009, 08:55 AM
No weigh in
Pain 0/4/6 (I think it's the chairs)
Activity: 3

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, PT :yay: :yay:, water :yay:, vitamins :yay:, not eating dessert when I found myself satisfied from dinner to bed, even though I had room in the budget :yay:, ignoring cookies :yay: (that's only a tiny credit. I tasted one (sugar free) and I was not impressed. Whenever I was tempted, I just remembered the one I tried. :p)

Spent the day at Mom's house and discovered pain increasing steadily throughout the day. I spent most of the day down, only getting up to do PT, prepare lunch and dinner, and change out a few small loads of laundry.

Analyzing my position revealed that I am not reclined as far in the chair I camp out in here as I am in my own chair at home. This might have something to do with it, but there really isn't a better option for sitting here.

Anne: I feel like I'm on plan anytime I come in under budget and have been in control of my eating. Since I don't build a specific meal plan each day, I have a lot of flexibility. I mostly control my eating by controlling my environment.

Sorry to hear you had a rough race. That's a lot of work to do in one day. And mountain biking does sound like fun. Scary fun.

Beth: Hooray for going back to a normal work schedule. :yay: for making healthy plans for the increase in time.

onebyone: :yay: for prepping fruits and vegetables so that you have at least one healthy option for the grad reception! I hope you had a wonderful time.

ChinaMaine: :woohoo: minigoal! Your rewards have inspired me. My 209lb minigoal is a yoga mat to do PT on.

Greenville Beth
06-26-2009, 01:07 PM
Hello, All. Just a quick note before I run off to work. I finally got to ride my new bike this morning. Woo hoo. I only went for 30 minutes but that's a good start. I'm not sure which was happier to get off the bike, my legs or backside. Either way, I'm thrilled to be riding again. I will go tomorrow morning as well.

More later -


06-27-2009, 09:08 AM
Good Morning Coaches

It's all done. I graduated, got the diploma, got the scholarship certificate, and I am now an alumni of the Ottawa School of Art. I am also on You Tube talking about my giant print. the Ottawa Citizen reporter taped me at the show and he writes on the Citizen blog and there I am, worst videotape angle ever, but I sound good and my work looks great. It's all good. And then we got three more press reviews and I have an email interview coming up. I am hoping for a mention in today's paper... we'll see. I need to update my blog and link all over to take advantage of this. And then I need to get back to working. My art in the park show needs attention. People need to be accepted or rejected. I'll do some of that tomorrow. I have to go downtown to the school and drop work off at another gallery for another grad show opening this Thursday. I'll need to post about that too. More pictures. And then I need to make things for our other opening a week from this Thursday so we are not done as a group yet. It's all a minor whirlwind but fun. we're so fortunate.

Everything went great for the grad. My friends from the farmers' market wowed them with their catering. I was worried about the food and it was better than I could have imagined. We gave them a real deal and I am going to thank them by painting them a few signs for their business. I feel good about doing that.

None of my family made it, except for my cousin and his wife and son and that was nice! She's big into painting and so I knew they'd stop by. One of the people I carved into linoleum and printed in my big print on display came by. Jimmy, who's a larger than life character, stole the show for a while. He's a big burly retired firefighter who was thrilled to be in the bus strike piece. I know he's going to tell everyone he knows about it. He was telling everyone he didn't know about it while he was in the room! Big big character.

Foodwise not eating very much; not very food focused. It's been crazy hot here but the weather broke last night with some rain and it's damp and cool this morning. Good. For a while. We did have pizza (3 sl of med for me) and poutine (1/2 a large) and that was high calorie for me last night hence the weight/water gain. I was 269 upon weighing in. I start week 2 of the Thin for Life program, well I guess I can start today! So if I do that then here are the facts:

Week 1 start 275 ...graduation stuff in between Week 1 end 269
results= -6lbs :congrat: to me for getting through all of this and not re-gaining weight lost in week one.

Week 2 start = 269lbs

Better go. I need some :coffee:

twilit tera
06-27-2009, 09:50 AM
WI: +.5 oh, well.
Pain: 0/4/6
Activity: 2

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, water :yay:, vitamins :yay:, PT x3 :yay:, not eating as much of anything as I wanted :yay:

Mom's in the hospital again. The transplant coordinator did not like the look of the wound, so they kept her to do a CT scan and observation.

I'm not happy about the rise in weight, especially considering I was really fighting the munchies last night. Oh, well.

Beth: Congrats on the bike. Yes, those seats can be really hard on an untrained bottom.

onebyone: It sounds like you had a wonderful time at graduation. It's so good to hear!

:coffee: time for me too!

06-27-2009, 11:40 AM
Food – off plan. I had a couple more gin and tonics than I planned on last night, so I was 250 calories over my goal for the day. :( On a better note, my fitness ball arrived – I just need to inflate it. Otherwise, it was a nice day. I was unmotivated at work, I think because I was feeling so good and wanted to be out in the sunshine…
WI-up .25 lbs. Read my cards, made a plan. Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.0 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).
Tera I think skipping the cookies because you weren’t impressed with their flavor deserves a big credit! That’s thinking like a thin person and eating mindfully! :bravo: Ouch that being away from your great chair at home has introduced elevated pain levels… :(

Sorry your Mom is back in the hospital, but I’m glad they are keeping a close eye on her. Sorry for the weight gain, but if you’ve been op it’ll call come off quickly I’m sure!

Beth :yay: for the bike ride!

one by one It sounds like graduation went really well. Congrats! And :bravo: for losing 6 lbs in week 1.

Anne, Robin, Margaret, and mary blu :wave:

Bill Miss you, hope you’re having fun!

:coffee: for me!

06-27-2009, 12:25 PM
Coaches/Buddies Things are going OK here. Bedtime is sneaking up on me as I'm getting the insomnia worked out. I had a great night last night. On plan, both with food and exercise. Weight is not cooperating though. I'm dusting off the old meteor theory.

Beth Wow! 50 lbs down! Most excellent.

MTB is mountain biking. My new favorite thing to do. At least until I become one with a cactus.

I'm glad you're riding. Do you have a decent saddle? Makes a huge difference on my backside, and yes, I have to change as I lose weight and it all gets remodeled.

onebyone Congrats, congrats, congrats on your graduation! Big smiles here for you. Sounds like the festivities were wonderful. Hope you enjoyed it--long time coming and lots and lots of work!

ChinaMaine Hurray for mini-goals and fitness balls! Have you picked your next goal reward yet? Sometimes it is nice to have something tangible to think about, just in case all the other rewards of weight loss aren't lighting up the neural pathways. It is amazing to me how a new CD sometimes trumps something basic like self-respect.

RobinW :wave:

Tera Sorry 'bout your pain levels. Hope you get the chair thing figured out. Hope your mom gets better soon. I can imagine that is quite stressful.

Have a good day, everyone.


06-27-2009, 09:49 PM
We had a good day working in the yard, raking, weeding, etc. I burned well over 750 calories, so I added 200 calories to my calorie goal for today.
:df: WI-down 1 lb. (new low) Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op. Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.0 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).
I was surprised I lost weight today since I was off-plan last night. But very happy because my wii fit told me I was overweight this AM, not obese!

Anne Credit for being op and :yay: for better sleeping. I’m sure the weight loss will show up at some point; maybe you’re just retaining water for some reason?

About my next reward, I’m thinking an armband for my iPod. My summer togs don’t have pockets, and it’s a bit inconvenient to carry it in my hand. I’d also like to get some new tunes from iTunes (maybe the slumdog millionaire soundtrack…), but I’m definitely leaning towards the armband right now. It’s actually more motivating for me to ruminate over what I might want to get. I feel like a kid for the last few weeks before Christmas, imagining all the possibilities. ;)

06-27-2009, 10:36 PM
Hi coaches

I just looked at my grad pictures. My jazzy shirt, that I like so much, looks awful on me. I am twice the size of the other ladies in my class. I am really really obese. I feel embarassed and I know I'm not supposed to say that and I know I am supposed to love myself and I know that all of that doesn't matter in that it just can't hamper me from making things and doing things but Oh man. I wish I wasn't so fat. I am trying to accept the images but I just feel so sad seeing me like that. I *feel* like I ruined the pictures. Isn't that terrible?! Yes. I know how that sounds. But better for me to say it here and let it go. I feel like the class and the pictures would be perfect without me in them. My classmates don't feel that way. My DH doesn't feel that way. I still got interviewed in spite of being obese. you know, how much does it matter but man. I feel like I brought about the worst possible scenario. I remember starting out months ago, vowing to lose weight for grad, setting a reasonable goal per week and like many other times I did the opposite. I gained 25lbs in the past 8 months or so. My goal was to lose that. What happened that that was what I did, that my actions are so out of whack with my desires? I know I'm on track now, and I can put these images in the past but sheesh. I wonder why I needed to put myself through this? I guess so I can remember how this feels and want to put as much distance between myself and this as possible, even as I made poor food choices this evening. Even with that I am eating better. Oh sigh. I'm glad it's all over and maybe that weight is all over for me too? Don't know. I think I'll read my Thin for Life book and get to the week 2 readings. I just wish I didn't feel so ashamed.

Thanks for reading.

06-28-2009, 10:33 AM
Onebyone, I did read; more on that later.

The only personal notes other than to our dear OBO are:

Wndranne, you continue to amaze me with your activity level. I can't imagine insomnia being a problem for you; I would think you would drop from exhaustion every night. Insomnia is no joke; my brief stints with it rank among the most frustrating and limiting of health issues. I know we are all pulling for you, and I for one, am always interested in your methods of tackling things so proactively and head on.

Chinamaine, took my first dip on Friday, for my birthday. When I was a kid, I was in by Memorial Day; cold water was not an issue. As I got older and the first dip date got later and later, I would always remark if I did not make it in by my bd on June 26. It has happened many times, but not this year. Hot day of gardening and the water was perfect. Warm enough not to take my breath away, but cold enough to be refreshing.

Now, dear Onebyone. We are all in this together, so this was the perfect forum to puke out all those frustrations. I wish I had the magic phrase/ wand for you, cuz we sure have grown to love you and want you to succeed in the one area of your life where success eludes you. That seems the case for so many of us. If you read about us, we on this thread are all pretty smart, successful people. In fact, I have noted and discussed many times something I have not named, but it is simply this:

It never surprises me to show up for some professional meeting/event with a high power, highly successful woman who has done remarkable things there leading and being very over weight. It happens all the time. I am never surprised. There are so many of us who can do whatever we need to do to be at the top of our game personally and professionally, and yet control over our weight eludes us. It is almost as if we do "over achieve" everywhere else, just to prove we can.

I have no magic phrase. If you are not choosing to use the Beck tools right now, then perhaps try this:

Fake it, til ya make it.

Eat what you want, enjoy it, but eat less of it. Move more. Stop weighing every day. Just fake it. Find ways to move more..just do it...throw some food away off your plate and forget about it..Stop weighing every day...just stop it! Stop weighing everyday and making goals and stressing out about it so much...What would happen if you did not weight for 2 weeks or a month, and at the end of that time, you weighted 5 #s less? Would that not be a win? That is 40#s of pressure off each knee. Is that not a win?

Wish I had more for you, but stay with us, girl.

06-28-2009, 12:16 PM

I'm not going anywhere. I'm not giving up. I'm not discouraged, really. I'm not. I'm sad :kickcan: but that's okay. I'm choosing to just go forward. My weight is moving down. I'm okay with it. I am making small choices daily and eventually it'll show up on my body. I did wake up this morning with full ownership of this problem. It is all mine this weight problem. I have to solve it. I have to do the work. I am the only one who feels what it's like to live in this body and this body is telling me to get it together already. I don't need to look like this. I don't want the concern of those around me. I just want to be a normal weight. I just want to be average. I can do that. I can. I am doing that.

I do think that large women overachieve. I know I feel like I have to prove myself to "make up for" that negative first impression I give before I open my mouth. Luckily I am blessed with a gift for gab and a bit of charm and I can read people very well so usually I can manage the awkwardness that happens at times but I wish I could lose the self-consciousness about it all. What I remember about being thin, which I was twice in my life for a few months at a time, are two things. I remember the thrill of buying tshirts off the rack in ladies store. They were on sale, they were size medium, and they fit well. I bought a blue, a red and an orange one. It was so easy to buy clothes and to just throw clothes on. I didn't worry my upper arms showed beneath the end of the sleeves, or that they were tight. I didn't wonder about tucking in or out. I remember I bought several pairs of jeans at the second hand store. They all fit. I had so much choice! And clothes were cheap! It just felt easy and I didn't think abut clothes and what to wear. I also remember feeling light. I remember feeling so light I thought the wind would pick me up and carry me away! DH still kids me about that. He didn't know me then but he found it most preposterous that I would have even thought that. But I did.

Boy I'd love to have those two memories be reality again.
I'd love to know I was walking away from today's weight for good right now, today, never to return to this.
I just don't need to be fat anymore. It's really in the way of my long healthy fantastic life! It is in no way necessary. I hope that part of me that is hanging on to being obese is :coach: listening. It's definitely time to turn the page on this. I've spent 4/5 of my life so far as a fat person. I'd like to spend the next part a normal weight and healthy. Let's not forget that. Healthy is even more important than looking good. Nothing matters if you are sick but feelig better.

Okay off to read more of the Thin for Life book. I'm still resting up from the whirlwind of the last month...

:hug: to all of us.

06-28-2009, 11:23 PM
Coaches/Buddies I'm so far off plan today I don't know if I can see it from here. I had a monster migraine yesterday, and things have just been off. I need to prep for tomorrow.

I notice I'm feeling more and more disinterested as I approach my intermediate goals. I should probably do some thinking about that. On the one hand, I'd like to lose a little more, but on the other, I'm doing the stuff on my ARC. Hmmm.

ChinaMaine HURRAY for not obese! Love that!

onebyone I'm glad you posted. It is good to read these thought, for myself as well. I think you have a lot to be proud of. :hug: I can really relate to you struggling with these big issues, and it kind of reminds me of myself right before I got it together for the Big Loss in 2002. Aside from these preggo pounds, all that thinking really helped that one "take."

maryblu Thanks for the "fake it til you make it" reminder. That is really a powerful thought.


06-28-2009, 11:32 PM
I started tracking my calories this week on In the past I've given up quickly on tracking my food because of "all or nothing" thinking--either I must perfectly account for every calorie, or don't do it at all. I'm feeling more able to tolerate the anxiety when I know I might under or over estimate portion sizes.

onebyone--congratulations on graduating and on the interview about your giant print! I felt sad reading your experience with your graduation photos--that's a painful state to be in. Credit for owning the problem--that is extremely courageous. Every human impulse is to flee the problem, hope it goes away--it sucks that it doesn't.

ChinaMarie--I like your idea of an armband for your ipod--that's a cool reward. I have a hard time thinking of rewards--probably related to feeling I am never good enough, "should have done whatever it was a long time ago" critical voice.

wndranne--I need to remember that idea that not eating my planned food is off-plan. If I don't eat every few hours I am much more likely to eat junk--but sometimes I still think "I am on a diet, I can't snack"--even if I have planned the snack. And yes, I did have fun on vacation!!! We went to a jazz festival--it was fabulous.

twilit tera--Credit for fighting off the munchies--that time between dinner and bed can be a challenge! And sampling just one cookie is awesome--even when I'm not impressed by something, I tend to eat it anyway, a kind of compulsion.

GreenvilleBeth--That is just so cool you got a bike and rode it. I haven't been on one in over 25 years!

twilit tera
06-29-2009, 09:31 AM
WI: -.5
pain: 0/1/4
Activity: 1

Credits: water :yay:, vitamins :yay:

Struggling with lack of motivation, cravings, etc. I would be rereading Beck Solution pages right now, but I haven't retrieved my book from a buddy of mine. He said he's going to try to make it over here this week. :crossed:

I really think I just need to catch my breath and I'll be fine, but reorienting myself would make it go a lot smoother.

They released mom after an overnight stay. They found that she'd gotten a wound infection, so they scraped and boosted her antibiotics. She was not a happy camper, but she's relieved to be home.

The new apartment is now looking more like a home and less like a storage unit. I still have a few things to tidy up, but then I can relax on that front for a while. One exciting thing - room to set up a recycling bin. Since the apartments here don't recycle, we'll be toting a bag up to mom's so she can get credit on her recycling. (The city of Carrollton gives incentives to active recycling residents.)

I guess I've got some personals to catch up on:

ChinMaine: :D The armband sounds like a great idea, although Slumdog did have a great soundtrack! Decisions, decisions!

:yay: for all that productive calorie burning!

onebyone: :hug: I understand how you feel. I wish I could make those feelings go away... self-crimination is hard to overcome... the roots go very deep. You had the potential for those feelings long before the pictures were taken, and they may have a lot to do with why you are carrying so much weight to begin with...

I'm going to recall something from my days as a self-identified biblical fundamentalist, because I think it fits here - hate the sin, love the sinner. It's going to be some work, but isolating the behaviors and condemning them without condemning yourself gives yourself the freedom to make better choices. You might have to take that in stages... accept the way that obesity makes you feel and go from there. No more "I should feel a certain way..." You feel how you feel! :yay: for I feel sad, but that's okay.

Like Anne said already... think you for sharing these thoughts with us.

Margaret: :yay: for letting go of all or nothing... I think that step more than any other is important to long-term success.

I hope that as you give yourself room to occasionally miscalculate and lose weight anyway, the anxiety associated with estimating will subside.

06-29-2009, 02:26 PM
:wave: Im here!

06-29-2009, 10:02 PM
I had a busy Sunday. Since it rained all day, I mostly did indoor work. I cleaned out the fridge (blech!) and sorted through boxes my DH has brought home from storage this week. I sorted through all the boxes of books, we’ll give about half to the Salvation Army. I’m now working my way through boxes of framed photos. Some I’ll put out, but over half will probably go back into boxes (because I can’t bear to actually throw them away… )
:df: WI-up 3.5 lbs since Saturday. Both Sunday and Monday: Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op. Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.0 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).
I’m not really surprised my weight has jumped up. I lost 6.5 lbs over 3 weeks (after no net loss for 4 weeks before that), so I knew I was losing a lot of water – whoosh! I typically regain some weight after a large, quick loss. But 3.5 lbs is quite a rebound. :( I had gone into the vaults to find old size 14s and found just a few shirts. They fit on Friday, but don’t fit today. Oh well… I know it’ll come back off again, it just may not be as quickly as I’d like.

one by one :hug: I really feel for you – and wish I could say exactly the right thing to help you turn things around for yourself. :) I think maryblu has a good thought: Fake it, til ya make it. I did something similar last year when I hated my body, but didn’t feel I was emotionally ready to make the commitment to a diet yet. I started moving more (like maryblu suggested) and eating less (ditto). I also started logging my food daily, and after seeing how high my sat fat was, and how low my fiber was, I decided to work towards getting those numbers moving in the right direction. But I didn’t try to diet per se. Over 2 months I lost 4 lbs, and got in the habit of exercising 3-4 times a week. By January, I felt ready to diet. I bought Beck’s second book, joined this group, etc.

I’m sure you’ll find the path that works for you. Each of us walks a different road it seems.

Anne What’s an ‘intermediate’ goal? And an ARC?

Do you think you’re at a place where you’re happy with your current weight? If so, then maybe it’s time to maintain? If not, then I'm sure you'll find your enthusiasm again. :)

Margaret All-or-nothing thinking is a problem for so many of us – credit for recognizing it’s an issue for you! It’s something I need to wrestle with in many aspects of my life. You might find building that resistance muscle helps you in many ways you don’t anticipate now. :D

About rewards – I had a counselor once who’d stop me when I said something like ‘ feeling I am never good enough, "should have done whatever it was a long time ago" ’ -- She’d tell me to: Stop the Stinkin’ Thinkin’!! and to immediately say something positive about myself to cancel it out. That’s probably not necessary - ;) but cant’t hurt. It might make sense to remind yourself the rewards are something you are doing to motivate yourself. Real success now, and in the future, is the goal to focus on -- not the perceived failures of the past.

Tera I’m glad to see your pain levels are down a bit. But I’m very sorry about your lack of motivation – it seems to be going around I’m afraid (Anne, OBO, you…) I think ‘reorienting’ yourself sounds like the right approach. :hug:

Robin :wave:

06-29-2009, 10:26 PM

This is an interesting story. She has some very Beckian suggestions on the 2nd page of the article. But the first page is where she lays out the theory that fun-loving people are likely to be 'disinhibited' eaters. LOL -- I guess this group would have a hum-dinger of a fun party if we ever got together!

-- Gnight all!

06-29-2009, 11:07 PM
Tracked calories again today. Yay! Did Zumba, left some of my bagel on the plate, and threw out the leftover snacks from the open house at work.

twilit tera--glad your mom is back at home, and that you are settling into your new place. I liked what you said about giving myself room for miscalculations of calories and possibly losing weight anyway.


ChinaMaine--I like the idea of rewards being about the future, not about the past. I am learning to write the "stinkin' thinkin'" down--that seems to help by getting it on paper where I can corner it, rather than letting it circulate in my head.

06-30-2009, 06:08 PM new posts today yet :wave:

06-30-2009, 07:48 PM new posts today yet :wave:

:wave: Hi Robin, Hi Coaches

Credit moi I went for a walk at 6am over to the park with my DH who hadn't gone to sleep yet. He is plagued with insomnia and so I woke up to find him still up and said "let's go for a walk" and so we did. A good 40+minutes later we were home, I made breakfast and was off to the school to look after the ceramic room. I made it back here by noon and ended up napping myself. Hopefully he'll sleep tonight. I let him nap this afternoon an hour longer than I think I should have but he's up now and I hope his body clock has reset itself as much as it ever does.

I am still recording my food (credit) and have been over calories for today and the two days before if I say I want to lose 2lb a week. If I say I want to lose 1lb a week I am only over one day, but that's if I don't have dinner tonight. I think I will be over today but I still get my credit for keeping track no matter what.

And that's where I am at. I saw some more pictures of me. This time ssent to me from our last printmaking class. *sigh* Even in my casual clothes I look (surprise surprise) a lot like I looked at grad. My shape is my shape. I feel confronted by the reality of my shape daily it seems. Credit moi for no longer a)being surprised and b) having an immediate negative reaction run through my head. I think I am getting to acceptance of what I look like.

My sister (yes this is one of the family members who was not talking to me. Things are WAY better. Credit to us) is giving me a graduation present of $ this week and I was going to spend it on a vacation but the vacation is cancelled. we can't really spend the money to go away right now (credit for being fiscally aware) and so I was considering spending it on the gym downtown I almost joined last year. it's enough to cover six months there, and they have six month contracts only. Or I could rejoin the Y and go to the water aerobic classes I enjoy. It's tougher to go to the Y though as it's slightly out of the way. And the a part of me says don't waste your money on a gym. Just start moving more at home or join the $100/yr gym here in your neighbourhood. I think I'll take another look at it this week. I guess with grad overwith now and the next two art gallery openings rapidly approaching (this week and next week) and then my art in the park event over in three weekends, well slowly my life is returning back to me. It's all good. We're not moving until the spring or the summer next year after I get some teaching experience under my belt. So life's arranging itself in front of me and that lessens the stress and that helps me make a plan and follow it.

How is everyone out there anyway?

Have a great Tuesday!

06-30-2009, 10:19 PM
This is going to be a flyby. I had a stressful day – which I usually manage to avoid. I have deadlines at work, and I’m not able to make them. At least not 100 %, and that feels like failure. Hmmm sounds like all-or-none thinking. I’ll work on that problem tomorrow. But I’m doing well otherwise…
:df: WI-down 2.25 lbs. Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op. Exercise – op. Fatigue 1.3 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).
one by one Sounds like you are doing great! Walking 40 minutes - :yay: Acceptance is power – embrace it, there’s no hurry. :)

Margaret :yay: Sounds like you are doing well too. Throwing away your bagel, credit! I like the idea of ‘cornering’ your stinkin’ thinkin’. ;)

Tera, Robin, Anne, Beth :wave:

Wow, having Bill gone really does seem to make a difference – no?

DH and I just watched [part of] a Nova show on Musical Minds. It’s based on a book written by the great Oliver Sachs (The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat, Awakenings) about music and the brain. Listening to 1 young man with Tourette’s talking about how music seemed to meld together the fractured parts of his being, I realized how much I enjoy practicing piano in the morning. It focuses me, takes away the stress. I think I’ll go up and practice a bit now. Gnight all!

06-30-2009, 10:50 PM
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