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missgordon
05-13-2009, 10:51 AM
I just want to complain, really. It's been about three weeks or so that I've been on this diet - All vegan, really healthy, lots of fruits and veggies and healthy protein. I've been going for 5-6 mile walks 3 days a week, and shorter ones the rest of the week, and this week I've started a new strength training routine with a resistance cord (anyone ever use one?).

I feel like I got beat up the lady in the video has me working muscles I didn't even know I had. Which is good, but MAN!!!!! And what's even worse.. I'm hardly losing any weight! I know that working your muscles can make you retain some water, but it's SO frustrating to see that scale go up such a significant amount after all your hard work. It's so hard for me to get under 200 pounds. The scale just goes down and then up and then down, over the same 5 pounds. And it doesn't help when it's TOM - I feel like I'd have to handcuff myself so I don't keep eating and eating.

And my current weight is no longer what it says on the left. It's gone back up to 210. Grrrrr.

Thanks, ladies, I just had to vent.


shrinkingleah
05-13-2009, 10:57 AM
How frustrating! I absolutely hate my scale sometimes but I just have to remember what you obviously already know. Working out and diet changes can make you retain water, everybody loses weight at different paces... Usually it makes me feel a little better if I give it some time and ultimately, you're doing the right things, the number will go down.

Good luck! Hang in there, it's worth it.

JulieJ08
05-13-2009, 11:11 AM
I'm having a similar experience right now, and I'm not even working as hard as you. Just picking up after a period of slacking. But I just keep on, because I know I'm exercising and eating well. When your body does adjust and drops the weight, it'll be awesome :)


missgordon
05-13-2009, 11:18 AM
It's so tough to keep your head on straight and keep it going when it gets like this. My boyfriend, who I adore, eats SO MUCH FOOD. I can't understand how he could possibly shovel that much food in his face and stay at an average weight. My other roommates are skinny as twigs and they barely eat anything. It's like a horrible chore for them to remember to eat.

If only....

merose
05-13-2009, 11:27 AM
I totally get it. I live with my sister and her fiance at the moment - and they eat unbelievable amounts! So much! He excersises a lot, but she does nothing, eats chips and chocolate and still weighs about 130 - 135. Sometimes it feels like a tragedy on a grand scale - but all it really means is that I just have to keep my head down and keep going.
Were you a vegan before you started this diet? maybe your body is still figuring out how to cope with a change of diet and excersise. If that's the case I'm sure it will start to click into place soon.

Peep Smith
05-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Just be sure you are drinking a TON of water, especially with all your exercise. You don't want your body dehydrated because then it will retain water. You might also really check out how much sodium you're having...it's cleverly hidden in quite a few foods. Also, take a look at which fruits and veggies you're eating, and what sort of protein. Leafy greens, red and orange veggies, and fruits like kiwi, bananas, etc are best...high in nutrition, high in fiber. Your protein should be lean...beans, fish, a little white meat chicken. Have you checked out the 100 healthiest foods in the world list? Do a Google search and you'll find it. The founder is out there selling something, but the list is legit and a great one to follow.
Don't be discouraged...think about how much you're doing to change your life...it's a tall order and a lot to do at one time. Make sure you don't overpower yourself with unrealistic expectations and then dump the whole thing. Think about one day at a time, one changed behavior at a time. Whether you diet or not, a year will go by...ask yourself if you want to be fat or thin at the end of that year.

missgordon
05-13-2009, 11:41 AM
I've been vegetarian for 7 years and I was vegan a few years ago. I had lost 70 pounds doing this and it was incredible. I weighed 240 when I started that, and for a fleeting moment, got down to 170, which was my lowest weight since fifth grade. I started steadily gaining the weight back once I learned how to bake like a champ, and then I went to Europe last summer and fell completely off the wagon (France, cheese....) Ever since I've been piling it back on and finally stopped at 215.

But it's pretty easy for me to start out as a vegan again. I know all the tricks and I understand where I went wrong the last time. I tend to copy the eating habits of my significant other... which is SO wrong. But we've been quite in love for the last year and a half, and somehow that translates into happy-love-binges. Sigh.

missgordon
05-13-2009, 11:43 AM
Think about one day at a time, one changed behavior at a time. Whether you diet or not, a year will go by...ask yourself if you want to be fat or thin at the end of that year.

That's perfect thinking, thank you :)

Peep Smith
05-13-2009, 11:44 AM
Oh, but I feel your pain...French cheese. Oooooooo.....

merose
05-13-2009, 11:46 AM
mmmm... France... cheese... I've been a few times and live on chevre and baguettes, putting on an average of 10lb each time! and French women are so slim!
Sorry, off topic, but I can't read the words France and cheese without salivating.

missgordon
05-13-2009, 11:47 AM
Hahaha, one of my fondest memories is eating a fresh baguette and a big hunk of brie on Montmarte, looking down at Paris. Oh man. And the croissants!!!!!!!!! OH! When I'm old and on my deathbed I'm going to eat those until I give myself a heart attack, and I'll die with greasy hands and a big smile.

merose
05-13-2009, 11:53 AM
Ohmygod. Stop it.
I'm going now to eat a rice cake and pretend it's pain au chocolat.
Then pretend my stir-fry for dinner is garlic butter escargot and a smoked salmon and blue cheese pasta.
I could go on about food for hours. HOURS. Must stop.

missgordon
05-13-2009, 11:58 AM
I know, haha, this has turned into a terrible thread.
Thanks for the advice/support. At least I'm in a better mood :)
Steel cut oats! Woo hoooooo!

Peep Smith
05-13-2009, 12:00 PM
You both are SO making me laugh my a&& off! That's the deal I've made with myself. When I'm 85 years old, I'm going to eat what I want when I want, and I may even pick up a cigarette now and then. I'm going to have a pint of Haagen-das peanut butter and chocolate ice cream for breakfast, one for lunch, and one for dinner. I'm going to have pain au levain with butter whenever I darn well please! Fry me some chicken, bake me some cookies, and cram some bagels/creamcheese/lox on in...oh yeah, when I'm 85 it's time to rock n' fat roll!

missgordon
05-13-2009, 12:03 PM
Hahaha, it really helps to have a plan like that, I think. Because it's not like you'll never be able to eat that food again, you just have to wait.

But I swear... I better have a full set of teeth....

Peep Smith
05-13-2009, 12:29 PM
Oh, oh, just made tea come out my nose laughing...full set of teeth...hee heee heeeee!

JulieJ08
05-13-2009, 12:36 PM
I know, haha, this has turned into a terrible thread.
Thanks for the advice/support. At least I'm in a better mood :)
Steel cut oats! Woo hoooooo!

I dunno, sounds like the foods you crave can be gummed :) Doritos, on the other hand ...

JayEll
05-13-2009, 12:37 PM
'Scuse me for asking an on-topic question... ;) But you've told us what and how you eat, but not how much. How are you tracking your intake? Do you have a calorie target, for example? Or points? Or exchanges? Or...?

Also, how are you ensuring you get enough protein, since this can be tricky on a vegan diet?

Jay

merose
05-13-2009, 01:10 PM
I always thought life didn't have too much to offer those in their late 80s. Obviously I was wrong. Even if I have no teeth I can still eat my favourite food, vanilla slice... mmmm... You don't need teeth for custard!

missgordon
05-13-2009, 03:54 PM
'Scuse me for asking an on-topic question... ;) But you've told us what and how you eat, but not how much. How are you tracking your intake? Do you have a calorie target, for example? Or points? Or exchanges? Or...?

Also, how are you ensuring you get enough protein, since this can be tricky on a vegan diet?

Jay


I'm really bad at counting calories, actually. I've done weight watchers before, but I was highly unsuccessful on it. I usually do my own cooking at home so I can keep the amount of oil/sugar down, but for the most part, I really don't track calories - it drives me crazy.

For stuff that's really healthy, like fruit and vegetables, I don't pay attention.
I've cut way, way down on my carbs (I think that's been my main problem all along) - I still eat them once a day, but they are always whole grain and I portion out pasta and if I have toast, it's one slice.

I have found myself going through bad days once a week - where I'll eat whatever the h*ll I want as long as it's an acceptable thing on my healthy list. That is something I've got to stop. And I rack up nibble calories, too. A few chocolate chips, a few tortilla chips, a couple of my boyfriend's french fries...you know, that kinda thing.

As far as protein - it's actually a myth that you need a lot of protein. I eat tofu and beans and low fat wheat gluten (which is the protein in wheat flour) and that usually keeps me in check. Vegetables have protein, as well.

JayEll
05-13-2009, 04:36 PM
Thanks for your reply! :wave:

Most people find that without tracking what they are eating in some way, they have no idea whether they are eating too little or too much. Either way, that could explain why your weight loss is stalling.

I don't know what "a lot of protein" means, but it's not a myth that we do need some. Again, without tracking in some way, it's hard to know how much you're getting.

But, you didn't ask for input--you're just complaining. Well, hang in there! Maybe the scale will be kind someday.

Jay

TheWalrus
05-13-2009, 05:07 PM
Nah -- you don't need teeth to down a wheel of Brillat-Savarin or Pierre Robert or any other delectable triple creme. Oooooh...yum. Like my husband says "It's like butter, but better!"

missgordon
05-13-2009, 05:31 PM
Hahaha. Alright, so I guess I'll be all set no matter what!

And you definitely don't need teeth for some good french wine to go with it!