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georgiad
05-07-2009, 02:09 PM
Hi, I'd be really interested to hear people's opinions and experiences with Alli. It just got approved without prescription over here in the UK and today I had my first day on it. Quite frankly, I've eaten better today than I have....possibly in my entire life. I usually work on a binge/starve rotation, but today I ate three good, nutritious meals, with one or two healthy snacks in between.

So far I've had none of the dreaded 'treatment effects' and I just think (and excuse my crudeness) but the fear of ****ting myself has made me relax and not eat a whole bunch of rubbish. At about 4 o'clock (which is my big downfall time) I had a chocolate mousse. Usually, I wouldn't have been able to just have one, and would have probably had three, maybe even four. But I ate it slowly, savouring each mouthful, and you know what? That was all I needed!

I know it's early days, but I honestly feel like this may be a big changearound for me, and this might just be the thing that does it! I know it's expensive, and it's a lot of money for something that the main effect seems to be forcing me to get my *** in gear, but if it allows me to eat like this on a permanent basis, it's been worth every penny.


Shannon1983
05-07-2009, 02:19 PM
i Have been on Alli now for 16 days.. THis is my second round with it. I am down 9 pounds since April 19th. I totally love Alli. It Does work and i am so glad for it.

As far as side effects, it does happen. I actually on had one "real" treatment effect issue and the only reason i believe i had it was because of the TOM thing going on.

you will see Treatment effects when you go the bathroom, usually an orangish color. It actually floats on top of the water ( sorry not trying to be gross here) it is the oil that your body didnt obsorb. It is actually pretty cool i think.


Any way i love it and i have noticed when i exercise with it the weight comes off faster..


Good luck to you i hope that it is something that you like....

Idealperson
05-07-2009, 02:24 PM
It will work because it makes you have consequences for bad eating habits- which isn't a bad thing! I did have a few accidents one in the night time!!!...it is not for everyone- be careful, be prepared and eat healthy!


Redflame
05-07-2009, 03:27 PM
Key things to remember about Alli is that you only have treatment effects if you eat too much fat grams in one meal. If you follow the plan you have success without #$@(ing yourself! Novel idea huh?

So track like crazy, basically for me it made me be accountable. I am not using it right now, only because I am working on getting my metabolism straitenend out, and that is my primary focus. I will be using Alli again though.

What makes me sad is the people that think you should expect and put up with treatment effects......or that think it is OK to have Pizza, they will just stay close to the bathroom for a day or so.....that is abusing the medication.

Razorcandy
05-07-2009, 03:32 PM
I tried it a year ago. When my I got my bloodwork done my liver was going wacky. Stopped Alli immediately and everything is great now. Just be aware it can affect your liver.

ringmaster
05-07-2009, 07:00 PM
hey... I was wondering, Alli isn't an appetite suppressant, it just blocks fat, correct? So how does it work? You can over eat on carbs and sugar proteins and still have low fat grams but your calories can still go over? And what if you eat alot of healthy fats, like have olive oil on your salad, fish, etc... then you have the side effects?

flatiron
05-08-2009, 04:14 AM
I have been on Alli for 5 months and it works two ways for me. It helps me lose more weight than if I didn't use it and also it keeps me on track most of the time from fear! LOL!

Seriously I did have mild treatment effect when I didn't behave dietetically in the beginning but after a few months I believe I am immune to the effects.

I works if you follow the directions (read the little books that come with it!).

Also I don't know if you can still get them but I bought the Alli Book at the Dollar Store for a dollar and it has helped me tremendously!

:carrot:

MoonGirl
05-08-2009, 04:59 AM
I bought some from Superdrug (England) not knowing about the BMI of 28 rule (my BMI is about 25). I take them anyway, following the instructions but I'm not sure they're doing much.

As they block fat i think you'd need your calories to be made up of fatty foods for them to do anything.

They'd be handy if you're going out for a meal and can't avoid fat, like a mexican or a chinese but I think you'd be better of spending your money on a supplement like Acai Berry or Goji Berry which speed up metabolism, make you're and hair glow and keeps you healthy.

On the subject of 'accidents'; have done some interesting poos but never actually shat myself. Yet.

KforKitty
05-08-2009, 06:07 AM
They'd be handy if you're going out for a meal and can't avoid fat, like a mexican or a chinese but I think you'd be better of spending your money on a supplement like Acai Berry or Goji Berry which speed up metabolism, make you're and hair glow and keeps you healthy.



Sorry but this is when Alli should NOT be taken. The idea is to avoid the effects not encourage them. If I was going out then I'd either still eat low fat and take one or not bother at all.

I can honestly say that I've never had any major treatment effects. Never not got to the bathroom on time and never seen 'orange oil'. The worst its got for me was a bad gas and soft stools.

Kitty

Delphi
05-08-2009, 08:16 AM
You know Alli is how I found this site. While doing a google search I found a thread in these forums..and I've been hooked ever since.

I'm still quite interested in Alli but for one reason...because I think it will keep me honest. I don't eat a lot of fat, so I'm not sure if this product would even be useful for me. At the end of the day all it does is block fat..right? It doesn't give you energy or anything like that..right? I guess my question would be is Alli worth taking if you are already on a pretty good, low-fat diet?

Jacquie668
05-08-2009, 08:21 AM
I've been wondering about this too. I've been thinking about it. Perhaps I'll give it a go too...

georgiad
05-08-2009, 12:40 PM
Yeah, it isn't an appetite suppressant, all it does is block about a quarter of the fat you eat. But if you eat too much fat, it blocks too much and you end up with the notorious side effects! So not only does it stop that quarter of the fat you eat from being absorbed, it gives you a damn good reason not to eat crap! So for example last night I was feeling hungry I didn't have chocolate and instead had some fruit, because I knew if I had the chocolate I would have been on the toilet for an hour! I don't think I would have had that strength without Alli. So in my opinion it works as a bit of a willpower booster as well as helping you lose more weight than you might on your own.

beerab
05-08-2009, 12:44 PM
lol my friend took Alli and then went out that night to one of those like medieval times places and pigged out and totally regretted it cuz she had like raging you know what afterwards lol.

I thought it was supposed to make it so you don't absorb some of the fat you eat but if you eat too much fat it'll make you have the runs.

Scare you into eating right is the gist I got from it

georgiad
05-08-2009, 12:49 PM
But I think it's a good thing to be honest, because it's teaching me the right things! If all it did was block the fat you ate, you would eat more fat because you could get away with it, lose the weight, but gain it all back once you were off it.

Whereas because if you eat rubbish you'll get the nasty side effects, you learn to discipline yourself, you're allowed everything, as long as you limit yourself, and you have to eat nutritiously to make sure you're still going to feel healthy. I think it's amazing.

ringmaster
05-08-2009, 02:03 PM
what if you eat a food with good fats? like a piece of fish or some flax seed oil? does it block good fats from your body?

MBN
05-08-2009, 02:04 PM
Alli binds with the gut enzymes that break down dietary fats so that they can't be digested, absorbed and utilized by the body as calories. A portion of the fat "passes through" instead. It's not a stimulant or appetite depressant, and its effects are limited to the gut. It renders a portion of of the fat in your meal to be "null and void", as it were. The drug was previously sold by prescription under the name Orlistat. The over the counter version is half the dose of the original prescription version.

Here's my take:
Alli isn't a magic bullet. If you consume too much fat, you are likely to experience the oft mentioned unpleasant side effects. If you normally eat a low-fat diet, there's nothing for the drug to do. The drug does nothing about carb calories. Alli can interfere with the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins. And it's expensive. IMO, If you follow their diet guidelines, Alli really isn't doing all that much for you.

Let's do the math. The Alli web site recommends no more than 15 fat grams per meal. At 9 calories per fat gram, that's a maximum recommended 135 calories from fat. If Alli blocks 25% of fat calories as promised, then you are blocking a whopping 35 calories per meal, or 101 calories per day. Theoretically, then, Alli will help you lose one additional pound in 35 days (3500 calories). That's a pretty high cost per pound ratio if you ask me. I can more than pay for a gym membership with that and burn 100 calories in 15 minutes a day!!

Sure you could eat a pepperoni pizza and block 25% of mega fat grams, but you'd still be absorbing 75% of those mega fat grams and will likely lose the rest in a rather unpleasant manner. :o

I researched Alli, even tried it for a while. But it really didn't do anything for me that a balanced, calorie-controlled diet and exercise wasn't already doing.

belezura
05-08-2009, 02:12 PM
How long does it take to the side effect start?
If I eat pizza for lunch, when am I start going to the bathroom?

Jacquie668
05-08-2009, 02:55 PM
Alli binds with the gut enzymes that break down dietary fats so that they can't be digested, absorbed and utilized by the body as calories. A portion of the fat "passes through" instead. It's not a stimulant or appetite depressant, and its effects are limited to the gut. It renders a portion of of the fat in your meal to be "null and void", as it were. The drug was previously sold by prescription under the name Orlistat. The over the counter version is half the dose of the original prescription version.

Here's my take:
Alli isn't a magic bullet. If you consume too much fat, you are likely to experience the oft mentioned unpleasant side effects. If you normally eat a low-fat diet, there's nothing for the drug to do. The drug does nothing about carb calories. Alli can interfere with the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins. And it's expensive. IMO, If you follow their diet guidelines, Alli really isn't doing all that much for you.

Let's do the math. The Alli web site recommends no more than 15 fat grams per meal. At 9 calories per fat gram, that's a maximum recommended 135 calories from fat. If Alli blocks 25% of fat calories as promised, then you are blocking a whopping 35 calories per meal, or 101 calories per day. Theoretically, then, Alli will help you lose one additional pound in 35 days (3500 calories). That's a pretty high cost per pound ratio if you ask me. I can more than pay for a gym membership with that and burn 100 calories in 15 minutes a day!!

Sure you could eat a pepperoni pizza and block 25% of mega fat grams, but you'd still be absorbing 75% of those mega fat grams and will likely lose the rest in a rather unpleasant manner. :o

I researched Alli, even tried it for a while. But it really didn't do anything for me that a balanced, calorie-controlled diet and exercise wasn't already doing.

Hmmm...

I eat pretty low fat anyhow...raw food/vegan....in fact for me my fat intake, for good fat, is too low. *thinks about your comments*

Lori Bell
05-08-2009, 03:22 PM
what if you eat a food with good fats? like a piece of fish or some flax seed oil? does it block good fats from your body?

EXCELLENT QUESTION Ringmaster! And the answer is YES, it blocks a portion of ALL fat. Good and bad. It is a terrible drug to take if you have any sort of autoimmune dysfunction. People with MS and RA have a particularly hard time.