LA Weight Loss - Beck Diet For Life/Solution – May 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach

Welcome to the discussion group, support group, diet coach group, diet buddy group relating to the two books by Dr. Judith S. Beck:The Complete Beck Diet for Life (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/084873274X/3fatchionadie)and the first bookThe Beck DIET solution: train your brain to think like a thin person. (http://astore.amazon.com/3fatchionadie/detail/0848731735/104-4216363-1799918)

The Beck Diet Solution is a psychological program, not a food plan. It provides a step-by-step program to learn specific techniques to stay on our diet, lose weight, and maintain our weight loss for life. The program is based on Dr. Beck's clinical research in Cognitive Therapy (CT).

The Complete Beck Diet for Life expands the earlier work and includes a food plan with suggested menus. From the cover:With The Complete Beck Diet for Life you'll discover the 5 stages of successful deiting and maintenance. You'll learn how to motivate yourself, give yourself credit for every change you make, create time and energy for dieting, and handle hunger and cravings. Dr. Beck easues you into changing one step at a time. You'll master one task before monving on to the next. And you'll learn tehcniques to deal with challenging situations, such as sticking with ou plan at celebrations and dealing with "food pushers." With Dr. Beck's skills, you'll acheive a lifetime of healthful eating and lifelong motivation.

This is a place to discuss the Beck strategies and our daily efforts, to receive and provide support, and, for some of us, is where we serve as on-line diet buddy (coach) to each other.

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Previous Beck threads on 3fatchicks.com:

Beck Diet For Life/Solution – April 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=168219)
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – March 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165708)
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – February 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=163267)
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – January 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159846)
The Beck Diet Solution – December 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2475240)
The Beck Diet Solution – November 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155386)
The Beck Diet Solution – October 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152905)
The Beck Diet Solution – September 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150552)
The Beck Diet Solution – August 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147919)
The Beck Diet Solution – July 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145225)
The Beck Diet Solution – June 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143194)
The Beck Diet Solution – May 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141254)
The Beck Diet Solution – April 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138609)
The Beck Diet Solution – March 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135814)
The Beck Diet Solution – February 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133223)
The Beck Diet Solution – January 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129810)
The Beck Diet Solution – December 2007 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128075)
The Beck Diet Solution - November 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126374)
The Beck Diet Solution - October 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124433)
The Beck Diet Solution - September 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121790)
The Beck Diet Solution - August 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119430)
The Beck Diet Solution - July 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116556)
The Beck Diet Solution - May/June 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112274)

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Completed the fourth and final day of training with the snack foods left on the table. CREDIT moi for the fourth time. That's a nice feeling, and a good memory for my memory box.

The Elliptical arrives TODAY. I made space last night using <blush> davidette's technique "Pile it somewhere else!" Oh Well. But, space is ready, CREDIT moi. Most likely I won't be here when the "technicians" arrive to set it up and explain its maintenance. DW gets that pleasure.


maryblu - LOL at "$85.00 per eye." Great trip to Trader Jo's. Gotta try that spinach sauce. But the "Raspberry Walnut Gorgonzola Vinaigrette" sounds like stuff I could drink straight from the bottle. Maybe for company.

onebyone - Ouch for second helping following the huge emotions of the surprise meeting with your sister. Kudos for stopping at two and Kudos for keeping the perspective that you have to move on. And for being able to see that a family member had reached out to you.

Thanks for the old OA slogan, "You can either face your stuff or stuff your face." Hadn't heard that before.


Robin (RobinW) - Yep, "Big Honkin' Kudos" for that 7am gym and continuing to chase down this opportunity with your trainer. And congrats for winning a drawing with yours the only ticket; I like those odds, LOL.

Thanks for the reminder that food can appeal as "sexy" to me. It it slips under my radar to my inner-fourteen-year-old, resistance will be very hard. That 14 Y.O. only thinks with the lower male brain which doesn't think of consequences, LOL.


Anne (wndranne) - That Roadrunner is just so cool. I'm jealous; still haven't seen one. When last in Texas there had always been a Roadrunner "just five minutes ago" wherever we went.

Crossing my fingers for your Rosemary bush today; I love that smell.


Tera (twilit tera) - E-mailing an Alaskan fresh salmon steak to Scampers to help the GI track. My Aussie loved salmon more than anything.

Re Kessler: On the maintenance thread they're discussing craving for peanut butter and mention that the stuff processed with sugar is MUCH more addictive. Interesting data point.

Would love to hear the conversation when you called to tell your minister why he couldn't visit, LOL.


ChinaMaine - Yay for "No sign of fatigue or soreness." And Kudos for continuing with your exercise.

Trish (pattygirl63) - Kudos for starting up on the exercises. Yep, smart to be careful. I identify with eating just because other people are eating, hunger or not. That seems to be the social norm all right.

Readers - resistance technique 2
Say to yourself, Oh Well.

You can add the following idea too:Besides, although I may not like restricting my eating right now, I will definitely like all of the benefits of losing weight.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 97

WI: +1 (salt & water)
Pain: 1/8/3
Activity: 3

Credits: vacuuming :yay:, getting the kitchen "mostly" clean :yay:, counting calories :yay:, keeping chiropractor's appointment on top of an otherwise busy schedule :yay:, vitamins :yay:

Maybe an explanation of the levels I use is ... overdue.

The pain scale is on 0-10, with 10 being the most excrutiating experience I've ever had (burning my hand with black powder several years back) The first number is the lowest point I was in that day, the second number is the average pain level for the day, and the third is the level of pain I spiked to at some point that day.

I started tracking my activity level when I realized that the relationship between my pain levels and how active I am doesn't really become apparent unless I track both. So I'm using a 0-5 scale:

0: hospitalized
1: getting up only to get food or use the bathroom, laying down otherwise
2: some light housework or a single errand
3: light housework much of the day and/or multiple errands
4: Chores and errands back to back all day
5: heavy chores, moving furniture, running marathons (as unlikely as that last one is right now)

So we had to take the cat back to the vet. He came back a different shape! He's a much more relaxed kitty now.

I still managed to get the apartment somewhat presentable for Rev. H. But by the time we got to the Chiro's office, I was hurtin'! That made getting x-rays SO much fun.

C said that she was confident that I would benefit from rehab and wouldn't need surgery. With a combination of physical therapy, better inflammation and pain management and chiropractics, she felt my body would recover. My next appointment is on Tuesday.

This has really been a learning experience for me. I still plan to go to the Methodist clinic and see what they can do, but I figure at the very least, they'll have better information from C's office than Dr. G's.

So I dropped off to sleep really quickly at 9:30-10pm, then woke at midnight and couldn't go back to sleep for 4 hours! Woke up in some discomfort this morning. I'm looking forward to a relaxing weekend.

I need to try to rest up, but I still have things on my to-do list that require being up and about. I think I'll do what I did earlier this week, and just make it a point to get one thing done every time I get up for personal reasons.

Robin: Simply being outside the house before 7am deserves a HUGE :yay: in my book.

Interesting information about speed networking. I imagine the technique is more useful in business than romance. I wouldn't be so sure that it doesn't involve hormones. From what I've heard, testosterone figures prominently in aiming for success in business. ;) Congratulations on winning the necklace! I just love mother-of-pearl!

Trish: Again, you demonstrate your receptiveness and determination, hopping on the cycle for 5 minutes, knowing every bit counts! :yay: Housework certainly feels like exercise to me. Not as much as it did when my hip wasn't hurting... back then I would dance around with my broom and dishrag. It felt so good!

You are making some excellent excercise decisions, choosing to build up gradually and start with minimum stress. :yay: I'm so happy for the way you're taking off! :D

ChinaMaine: :woohoo: new low! :crossed: that your fatigue stays low as you continue to build on your exercise program.

onebyone: :hug: Yes, this is one of the reasons we make memory cards, to remind us later of the consequences of poor choices, only then, I think they're called "cheat sheets" or whatever name makes the most sense to us. We also make memory cards for the times we do succeed in using our strategies, so we are reminded of our successes and that we CAN succeed.

Good work, analyzing the events that led to your extra helping.

It sounds like you need to retrain your thinking a bit. But hey, isn't that why we started using CBT to begin with? :)

This isn't about "should" and "ought to," it's just about what actions lead to what outcomes. I sense that you're judging yourself rather harshly when you say things like, "I didn't do what I ought to have done."

Maybe try "next time, if I do this instead, I will have a better outcome." and see how that makes you feel. Work on building good strategies without playing judge and jury.

(Please forgive me if I'm reading more into your post than there is. I might be supersensitive to self-judgment because for years, I was hypercritical of myself.)

:yay: for counting your calories and staying on plan, as well as recognizing that there's more to healthy eating and living than counting calories!!

I'm very sorry you had that stressful confrontation (?) with your sister in front of a complete stranger. Maybe it was a wake-up call to her that shutting you out is plain silly? My thoughts are with you as you choose the time to call her.

Maryblu: What happened in '76?

Anne: :yay: for your run and hooray for getting back to normal. :yay: for going for a walk to work out work issues (hope it all gets ironed out).

Wow! Fast work getting the Kessler book! Keep us posted on it, yes?

Bill: :woohoo: for successfully resisting all that FREE food during training!

:lol: on calling the minister to postpone. I didn't exactly tell him the precise nature of the cat's ailment though. He understood, especially when he finally did arrive and Scampers was at the vet again. I go to a very liberal church, and most of us are of the opinion that all life forms in the family are valuable.

Good Morning :D

Bill~ "Pile it somewhere else!" :lol3: we do that too often! Did I tell you I got the christmas tree out of the trunk of the car...then into the kitchen (in the catch all area)...the we had the furbaby, and we moved it to the living room (tucked in the corner) because the furbaby needed her sleeping spot in the kitchen. I'll get that tree put away yet! Im so not into holiday decorating....I managed to get it all up, but I still need to put it all away *sigh*

Tera~ Kitty came back a different shape!??!!!! :lol: poor kitty, but I bet she feels soooooo much better!! That...waking in the middle of the night, and not getting back to sleep has to be one of those MOST annoying things! I hope you got a bit of rest tho.

Not much new here...planning to get my workout in sometime today. I didnt go early because I had to take dh to the eye dr to get stuff done. He's home sleeping now.

Have a great day everyone!

Just a quick one here today just to check in and say :wave:
I'm very sore from a 1 hour work out. The program I'm doing is so easy that you don't realize the workout you are getting and I'd forgotten that. I felt so bad last night that I'm sorry to say I had a cheat sheet entry. I'm starting Stage 2 today and figured the calories I should be able to eat and lose and I was a little over max calories I could have. So I guess it wasn't too bad, just wish I hadn't done it. I also realize from reading the book that IE is probably to much of spontaneous eating so doing Stage 2 will be strictly calorie counting and learning to have set times to eat as much as possible. Also, I've decided to start fresh Monday with my 30 min exercises Mon - Sat. I'll do 5 or 10 maybe even 15 min on stationary bike.

BBE & davidette - I am really good at move it somewhere else especially if company is coming. Reminds me of one time when I was a teenager. We had just moved into a new house and someone had popped into town and wanted come visit and see the house. Mama had us fly to pick up and she transfered things to a big closet. You can imagine how embarrassed my Mother was when our guest opened the closet as she toured the new house. Till the day she died Mama still couldn't believe someone would just come in and open someone's closet like that.:dizzy:

BBE - Great job worth a Memory Card for resisting all that food. You inspire me.

Tera - So glad you can get help without surgery.

RobinW and everyone else - :wave:

Y'all have a great day!

Hello,I was hoping I may rejoin the group.I saw my last sign in was 8/08,can't belive it was so long ago.I had completed th Beck book and workbook in 2008.Just recently I was injured at work and have a tear in my tendon in my calf.I have been out of work 1 1/2 wks and have my next appt 5/7.I have been catching up on my reading and currently I am going through the Beck Diet For Life book,both books are great.I have the first book on cd also to listen to in the car[havent been able to go in the car though].Anyway I like the diet plan she outlines in the back of the new book although the formula gives me 2000 calories which seems like alot.
I like in the new book also how she talks about getting prepared to diet and collecting all kind or measuring cups spoons ect...I sell some antique and older glass items on ebay and I user her suggestion and collected some of these dishes to put in my cupboard to use.For example I found pretty glasses that fit only 4 oz or juice,custard cups that measure 3/4 cup and some soup cereal bowls that measure 1 cup and 1 1/2 cups.Alot of older glass is both very pretty and fit smaller amounts which are just right for measuring and eating out of
.I also have 5 very shallow bowls that can be used as a plate as well and I put my dinner on these,they are 8 1/2" wide so I will eat less.Well thanks,Wendy

Beck – WI-up .5 lbs. Read my cards and made a food plan. I was op for food and exercise. :df: Fatigue: 2.2 (1=Feel great, 5=Extreme fatigue) I was tired today, and a bit undermotivated – but it is Friday, right? ;) I’ve been home alone this week (well with Moose, but he’s not a good conversationalist.) I get to pick my hubbie up at the airport at 11:45 PM :hat: – but won’t be home until almost 1:30 AM. :faint: Oh well... His layover is in JFK, IMHO the worst airport for delays. So, I’m just hoping he gets home tonight at all... :crossed: I'm watching All the President's Men to while away the hours until I leave...

one by one It sounds like you had a nice talk with the lady you encountered in the hall. But, ouch, family issues are so hard. I wish you best and am glad you brought it to the group. It is definitely better than just letting it fester… Congrats for staying within calories. That means you used your resistance muscles right? CREDIT!

Anne :crossed: for hitting that mini-goal today! Credit for op, especially since work was stressful. And it’s nice to hear that you’re physically getting back to normal. It’s funny how different things are between Arizona and Maine. I find 90 degree heat to be just intolerable, but it sounds like you enjoy it – at least under some circumstances. :D

Bill There’s no shame in piling the stuff somewhere else – we’ve all done it.:shrug: Now if it stays were you put it too long, there might be some shame in that… ;) Credit for resisting the platters of goodies one final time.

Tera The news from the chiropractor is GREAT! Only time will tell, but I really do hope she is right. But I do agree it’s also wise to follow through on the ‘traditional’ medical path at Methodist. Congrats on getting so much done in addition to being op and all the usual beck-stuff. :yay: Thanks for the explanation of your scales. But the pain one says 1/8/3. Based on your description, I don’t understand why the middle number is 8 (‘the second number is the average pain level for the day’) and the last number is 3 (‘third is the level of pain I spiked to at some point that day’). I guess I don’t really need to understand, but it seems like the number you spiked to should be higher than the average for the day. In any case I’m sorry there’s an 8 in there, whether it’s the level you spiked to or the average for the day. :)

Robin Good luck getting that workout in! Perhaps the tree should become part of your year-round decorating? It’s too late to put Easter eggs on your tree – but how about lilac branches? You could put flags in for Memorial Day, Veterans Day and the 4th of July. You could put Canadian flags in for Canada Day (I think I have that right…). And for Arbor Day, the tree needs no further decoration! Okay, I’m just slap-happy today I think… :)

Trish (pattygirl63) Credit for having a good plan for Stage 2; it sounds like you’re doing all the right things. And Credit for doing a cheat sheet for being a bit off plan yesterday – this really helps you to build the skills you need. But I also hope you give yourself lots of credit for eating well the rest of the day yesterday. Good luck!

Wendylan Welcome back!! I joined in January so our paths haven’t actually crossed before... Love all your bowls and cups! I’m sorry you’ve been injured.

Hi Coaches

I have had a good food day today. OP. No urges to go off track or anything. I guess it really was the emotional stress yesterday. As for that topic. I haven't called my sister yet but I will. I decided "this is not an emergency and I DO NOT need to stress over it. I am allowed to call when I am ready to call. " In essence, I took the pressure off. Who's pressure? My own pressure.

I went into the school this morning. I wanted to go back to bed but I didn't. I got the kiln cooking and then I went to the printroom and did the finishing silk screen printing to my two prints and I brought the three I need to show at Monday's critique back home with me to complete. I haven't done anything with the lino block carvings so that's the top priority for the weekend to get more of them done. I have a No Choice deadline of Thursday afternoon to print my big print so it's do (:lol3: I just typed "due" - seems equally correct eh?) or die.

It was easier to get myself into the school this morning because I realized that I really will be done a week from now. Last class finished. Apprenticeship completed (big bus strike print) and that made it feel like I could give things this one last push.

BTW coaches I've been reading The Structure House Weight Loss Plan... which of our coaches recommended that book I wonder? Well thanks anonymous coach. It's good. Very Beckian. I had some kind of super-profound insight that moved me to my core, but right now I can't remember what it was. I'm sure it'll come to me and then I'll share it with you guys :lol3:

wendylan I remember you from here last year. Glad to see you again. I hope your injury is healing well and fast.

kuhljeanie :wave: hope you're lurking and things are coming together...

angelmomma210 :wave: just wondering how and your DH you are doing?

And thanks to all my coaches for your comments re: my sister and re: my offplan eating. Your friendly thoughtful supportive responses are why I continue to come back her. Thanks.

Hope you enjoyed your Friday.

Coaches/Buddies A good day! I had a wonderful workout this morning, biked 6 miles to the pool, swam 1200 yds, and then biked 11 miles home over a couple of substantial hills. It was wonderful, because I'm really feeling more fit and didn't have to push myself over the edge to do it, but did get a really good workout in. Two hours, so I alloted 300 extra calories for myself. Eating was good. I was on plan except for two legitimate changes, and I was pretty much where I wanted to be foodwise, or at least within a hundred calories. I'm tired tonight. I did sleep better last night than I have been, but the sleep disturbance and long workout are catching up. Need to post, plan, update the spreadsheet, and then hit the hay.

I did meet my 5 lb goal this morning, so tomorrow I'm taking DD to pick out a rosemary bush (plant?). I made my old goal card a memory card, and made a new 5 lb goal and card. My next 5 lb goal puts me back at my pre-preggo weight, which was my longer term goal for my DS's first birthday. I have a reasonable shot at making it.

My tester pants are now fitting, so it is time to go "shopping" in the pre-preggo bin again. I don't think everything will fit, but several more things should.

Bill Thanks for starting the May thread! I'm reminded each month how much this little group owes you for its success.

If I ever have a four day meeting/training and avoid the food, I'm going to do a Memory Card in ALL CAPS. Nice work indeed!

How is the elliptical? Did you play with it? Does DW like it? Does it have new car smell?

Tera I long for a mostly clean kitchen. Nice job getting there, and also on your long list of credits. Sorry bout the pain spike.

Sounds like you are getting some progress on getting some ideas for dealing with your hip pain. I'm glad to hear that. I'll be turning cartwheels when it gets completely dealt with.

Amazon can beam a book to the Kindle in something like a minute. FAST delivery. So far the Kessler book is interesting. Got through the neurochemistry bit, and starting on the food industry section.

RobinW LOL on the Christmas tree movement. Hope you got your workout in.

Trish Sorry to hear that you are sore, but nice job getting your workout in. Seems like I've had about 100 Cheat Sheet entries myself. It happens. The important thing is to learn what you can from it, and keep moving forward. Sounds like that is exactly what you did.

Wendy Welcome back. Hope your injury heals quickly. Glad you are taking some time to catch up on the Beck reading. Your dinnerware sounds cool!

ChinaMaine I think everyone is entitled to feel unmotivated from time to time. Hope your hubby gets home in a timely fashion.

This time of year, we do in fact have a dry heat, so 90 deg isn't bad. But dry heat or not, 100 deg is just hot. 110, typical June, makes the eyelids sweat.

onebyone Glad you found a rational way to deal with your issues with your sister. Sounds like a very wise plan to me.

ONE WEEK LEFT!! :carrot:

Nightie night everyone!

Anne

A quick flyby to say Hello :wave: Had a great day back OP. Still can't believe I can eat this much food. Of course, this is starting Stage 2 so we'll see how it works. Getting things ready for tomorrow. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Diet Coaches/Buddies - She's here, installed, and operational - my new Sole E25 Elliptical. CREDIT moi for choosing an installer; reading the assembly instructions made me grateful that I paid to have an experienced person do it. 90% of their service calls are due to improper assembly, LOL. Looks smaller in the room than I had feared. But this model comes with a stern warning not to watch TV while using - you might fall off, LOL. DW is ecstatic. For getting this done, CREDIT moi.

Dinner was OP because we had to dip into my stash of lunches due to a time squeeze getting out last evening. DW really liked my lentil stew with the never-too-much cumin. CREDIT moi for having a stash.


onebyone - Kudos for OP while busy with the final days of school. would seem to me that your art teaching gig will have work without the intense feeling of pressure. LOL at "super-profound insight" that won't come into brain-view. BTDT. Maybe you've already absorbed it into your karma - don't need to recall it anymore.

Robin (RobinW) - LOL at the saga of the Christmas tree. Around here, it's become common for some folks to leave their strings of white outside lights up all year.

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats on your 5 pound goal and the trip with DD to pick a Rosemary bush. Just love the thought of teaching a three year old the smell of Rosemary. And Yay for the shopping in the pre-preggos bin. Be alert, LOL, Martha Stewart would note that fashion colors have changed!!!

Yep, DW is thrilled with the new elliptical. It does have a "new car" smell, LOL, at least in my brain. I saw a very small mark on it and immediately set about to remove it just as I would have with a new car. And thank you for the kind words.


Tera (twilit tera) - Good news that your chiropractor sees the possibility of improvement without surgery - a ray of hope at last. Continued Kudos for continued plugging away.

Yay for Scampers back "in shape." Yay for the purrr of a happy kitty.


ChinaMaine - Ouch for the increment in fatigue; Kudos for being OP in food and exercise anyway. Perhaps it's time to learn dog-speak; no doubt that Moose has a lot to teach you.

Wendy (Wendylan) - Ouch for your torn tendon; what do you do to make that heal? Hope that gets better so you can get back on your activities track.

Neat that you collect old glassware from eBay. Those special sizes can be real handy. I'm on the lookout for some 1/4 cup scoops to put in various containers from which I scoop out a measured amount - like my granola. But, so far, I've only found them in full sets. So it stays on my amuse-myself-at-yard-sales list to find them individually.


Trish (pattygirl63) - Kudos for pressing forward to Stage 2. Hope you find the right level of calories for yourself. LOL at your mother's closet story - that is a mind boggler.

Readers - resistance technique 2
Say to yourself, Oh Well.

The technique of saying Oh, well can be applied to all sorts of situations. When you find that the line at the supermarket is slow, you can get frustrated - or say, Oh, well. You can get angry at the inconsiderate driver in front of you - or you can say, Oh, well. You can get upset when you have to move an event inside because it has started to rain - or say, Oh, well.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 97

Good Morning :sunny:

Well, yesterday turned out to be a whirlwind of a day! I spent "ALL" day trapsing across God's green acres picking up and delivering orders. I get back to the shop, and one of our very very good customers shows up to pick up her order. She felt really bad and way out of her comfort zone when she had to tell us that we did her website wrong on the back of her van. I felt bad for her, then I felt bad that we made (more or less) her have to confront the issue so she could get it fixed. I forgot the "The" in the web address :rolleyes: Those are the kinds of mistakes that really tick me off! I looked at the order, and my fingers didnt type what was written on the paper to get it cut out properly :rolleyes: Ok....so this is one of those customers that is extremely busy!!! She's all over the place, and needs to manage her time to get everything done that she needs to get done. I asked her if she had a few minutes, we'd fix it RIGHT NOW! I run in get the razor blade to get it off the windows, and the cleaner to get all the guk off left behind, hubby loads up the cutter, and gets the new stuff cut/weeded/masked and within 20min we had the old off, and the new on! :whoo:

Alright......now because I was dangerously hungry during all this, I was scooping up spoonfuls of my soup inbetween all this action.

....no sitting and mindful eating. It was eating to make the aching in my tummy stop!

Big Kudos tho...we went for supper to the greek place just down the street. I asked for a take-away box as soon as my souvlaki was served. Dumped half of it in the box before I put any dressing on it. TaDa! I have todays lunch!

Then....its off to bed bath and beyond to pick up a few "tools" for the kitchen. Dragging hubs off with me. (and a few other places he didnt want to go to) :lol:

Home by 8:30, did some posting in the blog, and then crashed :D No, no workout yesterday, but Im ok with that. It wasnt a missed workout because of laziness. Which is usually my issue. No, I couldnt have gone yesterday morning, because hubs had his eye appt...the kind where they dilate his eyes, so I had to drive. Im really ok with missing yesterday's workout.

Today however!!! Im off. Its a pamper me day...and my workout is planned. I really dont see any reason to miss it :D

Bill~ Kudos for hiring the installer!! hmmm...you might not want dw to know you are a pretty good cook! She just might put you to work. Oh but maybe if she see's you are a good cook, she wont mind any new kitchen "tools" you may want to cook with. Hmmm its a catch 22 :lol:

Chinamaine~ You're too funny! I can do the Canada Day tree thing, because Im Canadian :lol: sure you can too....no reason why not. The tree is actually in its 3 pieces laying in wait to be put away :rolleyes:
So what time did hubby end up getting in. Its nice when they get home isnt it :)

onebyone~ Big Kudos for taking the pressure off yourself!! When Bill started this new thread, I forgot all about that post the other day. It might be a little late, but when I read it....my first thought was, call her when you "know" she will not be home. Leave a message, put the onus on her to call you. During your conversation that is what I would have done. Told her to call me rather than the other way around. She seems to be the one with the issues, not you. This way, there is no pressure at all. She can't come back and say you didnt call!

Pattygirl~ Trish~ :wave:

Anne~ good luck in that pre-preggie box!!! I always love finding stuff that fits again. Its like shopping only on the cheap!

wendylan~ Welcome back!! :hug:

Im off have a great day everyone!!

WI: -.5
Pain: 1/3/7
Activity: 1

Credits: stopping with 1 bite of 3 musketeers :yay:, counting calories and declining cookies when calorie allowance was reached :yay:, recognizing my emotional vulnerability and staying away from opiat painkillers :yay:, making a stand when B wanted to go out today :yay:

It's our anniversary. 10 years, a big one. I'd like to be able to go out an celebrate. B thought we could celebrate by going to home depot and picking up the parts for the desk I want, because that would be less strain on my joints than say, going to a restaurant where I'd have to sit. Unfortunately, I'm still recovering from the week. What I really need is some time off of it. So I told him about the pain and we're staying home this weekend. *sigh* Days like today, I wonder if I will ever have a "normal" life again.

Robin: :wave:

Trish: Loved the story of your mama's houseguest!

Wendy: Welcome back! :welcome2: How did you tear your tendon? What treatment are you receiving for rehabilitation? I hope it goes quickly and insurance/doctors/work all operate cooperatively to help your recovery.

Good work finding portion-control sized dishes for your cupboard. It really helps!

ChinaMaine: Sorry to hear about the fatigue level. Hope your hubby touched down safe and sound and I wish you both a relaxing weekend!

And... well... there's no wonder you were confused about my pain scale yesterday. I messed up and put the pain spike number 2nd. :p I do that sometimes.

onebyone: :yay: for giving yourself permission to decide you just weren't ready yet to call! :lol: for the profound insight you can't recall. It'll come back to you - hopefully just when you need it.

Anne: :yay: for another goal met! I'd forgot you were "Kindling" the Kessler.

Bill: :yay: on your new arrival!

Good Morning Coaches

I have made Saturday my official weigh-in and as of today I have shed 6lbs.
Lots of water whooshed away. My jeans have loosened up a bit after getting dangerously tight.
*phew*
I look forward to entering the 250's.

NOTE: I am fighting the urge to beat myself up for being here, again, about to fight through the 250's. Seems over the past year I have been right here, on the cusp of the 250's, wondering why I am still here at the cusp of the 250's... well, it take what it takes. Maybe this time I am done with it? I will behave as if I am done with it nad move forward. I'm just acknowledging these seeds of doubt and obvious self-sabotage...:wizard: BE GONE!

Credit moi for: sticking to my plan - for my weightloss this week - for doing 30min on the wii fit this morning when I woke up when I only intended to do 5 min (guess this is extra credit here).

I'm having a good day today...hope you are too.

RobinW DH mentioned to me yesterday that we had our little xmas tree still up. It fits on a sidetable. So I picked it up and moved it onto the floor behind the couch against the wall. I have no idea where to put it away an this is my major problem. I keep calling to mind Flylady who says "You can't organize clutter. You have to get rid of it." That's my next project, and my taxes, once school officially ends next week. We have DH's sister and her DH coming to visit mid July. I need to give them somewhere to sleep! BTW I loved your suggestions to call my sibling when she's not home. I wish I really knew when that was. I too was miffed that, again, it is up to me to call. *sigh* Whatever. I am trying to stay positive and there is a lot to be positive about until there isn't... :?:

twilit tera Credit indeed for cutting calorie creep off at the knees! (re: cookies/chocolatebar). So sorry to hear your pain is up but glad to hear you will take care of it as best you know how. Big kudos on your 10th anniversary. It's a special day no matter whether you go out or not. :hug:

Billblueeyes How fantastic to have a "stash of lunches" to offer your beloved. Methinks this could be better than flowers! And kudos to you for getting the guy to install the elliptical. Many a man would say "no! A waste of money! I can do it!" and then..well..ladies we know don't we?... it's not done, it's unfinished, it's not done right, you decide to do it... cliches? yes. But so glad you had it done and now DW can just use it! My art teaching gig may be postponed to the fall term now. All the Stretch' n' Sketch classes got cancelled due to low enrollment. I have one more offering a Sat morning kids sculpture. It may go but we still had 3 students and we need 10. I'd be happy to postpone to the fall truth be told.

pattygirl63 Happy to hear you getting through the book, following the plan, giving Dr. beck the benefit of the doubt! Kudos to you for taking these actions. Enjoy your weekend.

wndranne So it took you 6 miles to get to the pool and 11 to get home.
And this was after swimming. I'm giving you one of these :congrat: for doing all that. In the Arizona sun. You inspire me.:hug: Oh and congrats on the 5lb goal being met. Enjoy the rosemary bush. They're hardy!

ChinaMaine I hope your hubby is home by the time you read this and that you're getting all caught up! Enjoy your weekend.

It's nice out there. I think I'll go check out the clothes over at the mall. I need some spring/summer tops. I've been wearing that black oversized hoodie for too long now... I want something girly.

Enjoy this fine day coaches.

I'll be back tonight, but a quick thought for onebyone. Since the 250s are tough, can you track your weight in kilograms for a bit? Do you have digital scale with a setting you can toggle? Same weight, no baggage, less trauma.

Anne

Hello today,it is Saturday,I had to say what day it was because they are all running together for me.Thanks everyone for the hopeful thoughts about my leg.I work in a psychiatric hospital and a violent patient was attacking a coworker and I ran to help,during the scuffle my leg got twisted and popped.I was unable to stand on it,had MRI and the tendon is ruptured.The therapy so far is to stay off it and keep it elevated and on heating pad.The osteo doctor says I won't need surgery but can perhaps start physical therapy next week.The employee health/workemans comp nurse is starting some funny buisness and we had some words.The other girl had her nose broken and fared worse than me.Ihave been doing psychiatric nursing 20 years and have never been hurt more than a slap or scratch,sign of the times,less staffing,sicker patients and little cooperation.
Anyway,it is good that it has given me time to focus on Beck and work through the new book.Had a good food day yesterday and so far today.Reading my cards before I get out of bed.I have a computer chair in the kitchen I can wheel around and I can cook some easy recipes.I have been trying some from the new Hungry Girl 200 cal or less book.I like both her cookbooks and she has a website.

wndranne-Wow what a work out,do you regularly work out like that? You probably enjoy it alot!

onebyone-6 pound weight loss,that is great!We will get there slow and steady.

twilit tera-Great job with declining the unplanned for cookies.I can understand being disappointed about staying home the weekend.I'm at home too on the couch surrounded by a mess my family is unconcerned about.It is very frustrating and the weather has been beautiful and I can't go anywhere!Were you injured or do you have Fibromyalgia?

RobinW-Sounds like you had a busy day but you were still able to use the skills you have learned to not overeat,great job!

BillBlueEyes-It is nice that you are still going strong supporting everyone here!Nice too that you let them put your DW elliptical where it would be best for her even if it could be a little in the way otherwise.

pattygirl63-When you said you were suprised how much you can eat on the plan I was thinking you must be using the Beck for LIfe book diet plan,I was suprised by this also.I get 2000 calories,that is quite a bit.I have just started the phase 2 also.

ChinaMaine-Great job staying on plan even after seeing a slight increase on scale,that always gets to me and throws me off so easy.

I'll be back tonight, but a quick thought for onebyone. Since the 250s are tough, can you track your weight in kilograms for a bit? Do you have digital scale with a setting you can toggle? Same weight, no baggage, less trauma.

Anne

Hi. I can't switch over to kg on the scale. I can deal with it. I am thinking it's 2 x 5lbs and looking at it that way. Not "258 or 255" but "I have 5lbs to lose, then 3 lbs to goal" etc. So as of today I have 5lbs to goal. I'm just getting rid of the 250 completely. Thanks for the suggestion :)

Can someone on a different eating plan (like South Beach or Atkins) be part of the Beck group? I haven't read the book yet, but it sounds intriguing and helpful based on your thread. I understand the most recent book has an eating plan? Thanks! CJ

CJZee,welcome.Yes The beck Diet Solution can be used with any diet plan.It teaches cognitive and behavioral skills to help you follow any diet.The first book was Beck Diet Solution,then a workbook by the same same,the book on cd and the newest is Beck Diet For Life, which goes over the same concepts and a few extras and then gives a diet plan but the program works with any nutritional diet.

Coaches/Buddies Weight was up about a pound today, but with the extra (planned) food to support yesterday's workout, and being a little sore today, it is to be expected. I also haven't been sleeping well, and I'm absolutely wiped tonight.

I had no plan today, and I never know what makes me think that is a good idea. I had a fasting blood draw this morning for standard bloodwork for my physical Friday and that seemed to set the day. I skipped supper because I'm just not hungry. I'm too tired to eat. Calories came out on the high side of all right. I think I had one vegetable serving in the form of a V8, so not so great on the nutrition side of the house.

I have a plan for tomorrow, so I'm ahead of the game.

Trish Glad you had a great on-plan day and are happy with the amount of food you are allotted!

Bill LOL on your fashion sense. Navy and khaki never go out of style don't you know, in the sense that they are never in style.

Mmm, lentil soup. Too late for another batch of that here, so I'll have to live vicariously through you until about October.

Robin Busy day. I think always eating mindfully is a great goal, but sometimes you just gotta get unhungry and life intervenes. At least that is what I tell myself as I chase children. There are days if I waited to sit to eat, it wouldn't happen. I do pay attention though. No need to rush through lunch and not really be aware that I ate.

Tera Happy anniversary. Hope you found a nice pain-free way to celebrate such a big milestone.

I'm finding the Kessler book fascinating. I'll try to do a review sometime when life settles a bit. The Kindle is also great for making notes. I think the take away for me so far, is that a program like Beck's CBT based approach is essential for undoing all the brain rewiring that "conditioned hypereating" does. I think that is the term...too tired now to remember exactly.

onebyone Nicely done on 6 lbs gone. The 250s ain't nothin' but a number or 10. LOL on noticing my mileage discrepancy on the out and back. I took a different route home, for the record. I have not learned to bend time and space, although that would be real handy...

Wendy Your injury sounds very traumatic. Good that you are using this time to refocus.

I do triathlon as a hobby so I train a lot when I can. I do love it.

CJZee Welcome to our little group! The original BDS had us pick any reasonable diet we liked, and that is still a fine way to go about it. The strengths of the Beck method, CBT techniques, are in the psychological tools that help you stick to the diet (and if you want to know all the gory details of why that works, read the new Kessler book. Wow.)

Night everybody. It's 7:05 here, and I'm going to bed.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - DW asked me to help plant some stuff, so my exercise yesterday was digging and digging and digging. CREDIT moi. Unfortunately, that meant no time for my first test drive on Gerbilina. Oh Well. Move on. Let it go. Get over it. Never mind. [Foreshadowing, he is.]

Will make white bean and tomato salad with Rosemary vinaigrette for lunches next week. Hoping that will made it feel like Spring even if the temperature isn't that warm. Bought all the ingredients when shopping yesterday; CREDIT moi.


onebyone - Congrats on the six pound "shed." Kudos for recognizing your negative and sabotaging thoughts so you can meet them head on. Do you think it would help to review the Thinking Errors chapter in Beck? You might find some I don't deserve this type of thing. Good luck facing this.

Ouch for the lost classes; hope the remainder get resolved to your liking.


Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for whirlwind busy but Kudos for such dedication to immediate customer satisfaction. Mindful eating is like culture - a privilege for after the harvest.

You got me drooling with your "souvlaki." We have a Greek truck that shows up nearby around lunch time. Haven't had one in a while partially because it's so big wrapped in its large pita bread; might have to try your two meals technique.


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for skipping supper and feeling "absolutely wiped." Hope you have a more comfortable day today.

Your post reminds me that Arizona alone, of the 50 states doesn't do Daylight Savings Time. If must feel weird remaining sane as the rest of us flip about each Spring and Fall, LOL.


Tera (twilit tera) - Congratulations on your tenth Wedding Anniversary; may you have many more. That means you're past the seven year itch, LOL.

Kudos for one bite of a 3 Musketeers bar; I'm impressed. That would work for me only if it were being held by a hungry pit bull.


Wendy (Wendylan) - Kudos for spending your down time usefully, like catching up on Beck. Ouch for that story of how you tore your tendon; hope you can keep on top of the relationship with the comp nurse to get yourself healed.

CJ (CJZee) - Yep, using South Beach or Atkins is just fine while pursuing the strategies of Beck. In her first book, there is no eating plan and you are required to choose two - a primary and a backup plan. Do you plan to read the current book or the first one?

Readers - resistance technique 2
Say to yourself, Oh Well.

If these two words don't grab you, here are some alternate phrases dieters I have counseled have used: Move on. Let it go. Get over it. Never mind. Create a Response Card with the saying you like best.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 97

WI: +1.5
Pain: 1/4/7
Activity: 1

I've been pretty depressed lately. Yesterday I experienced the way foods alter my mood... truly only while I was actually eating.

I was able to find a website about tendonosis (http://www.tendinosis.org)with a link to a medical journal website, with free access. I've printed up a couple of study briefs on tendinopathy and lateral hip pain. I'll take them with me to the chiropractor's on Tuesday and to the Golden Cross clinic.

I think I need to make a depression strategy to complement my diet strategies. I'm sure the lack of pool activity is contributing. :cry:

onebyone: For both of us... :dust:

Wendy: Yes, the days do run together. Sorry that your job has gotten so exciting. :eek:

As to whether I was injured, I guess that depends on who you ask. When the orthopedic doctor spoke to me, one of the first things he asked me was whether I'd had a fall. When I told him no, he apologized for the mistake and said that my records said that I was injured. What happened was that I was pushing myself out of a car... I felt this sudden stabbing pain, and I haven't been the same since. That sounds like an injury to me, but what do I know?

Dr. G diagnosed the hip with bursitis, but my reading keeps leading me back to tendonopathy - maybe from repetitive stress (?)

All of my medical bills have been paid for out of pocket, since I'm uninsured, mostly by my family. I don't think I'll have the whole picture without soft tissue imaging, but first I have to find both a doctor who will listen to me and the means to pay for treatment on our limited income. It takes a lot of work to keep me from feeling really sorry for myself.

(My apologies to everyone else who's heard the story already.)

CJZee: I read the Beck Diet Solution, and am counting calories. :welcome: to the thread!

Bill: :yay: for planting stuff. Exercise plus changing your yard from one state to another - You must feel very accomplished. :)

A great morning greeting to all, dear Beckies.

Wendylan, welcome back. I am just floored that it has been since August for your last communication with us. When I saw your post, I just thought, "Oh, there's Wendylan." It just floors me the way time flies. I am also floored by your experience. I can't imagine being in such a situation, let alone being injured as a result. God bless you for what you do. I mean that sincerely. Mental illness is the worst illness of all in mho.

Does anyone else say "It floors me?". My mom used it a lot. I am wondering if it is a regional or a generational phrase. Am also wondering what the pundits are going to do analyzing "I'm like" and "like"...they are going to have to come up with a new part of speech for "like". The closest you can come is to call it an adverb, but it ain't no adverb in mho.;)

Tera, you asked what happened in '76. Well, see, it's like.....

That was the first Swine Flu scare. The gov't. said we all needed to be vaccinated for Swine Flu. So we all lined up like Lemmings plunging into the sea for a free and highly recommended vaccination. I was pretty much a Counter Culture Hippie Chick at the time; looking back, I can't believe I got the shot. Have wondered a lot in years past, though, what was really in that. Some kind of "stupid" serum, judging by the way we have behaved since! Well, maybe stupid is harsh; perhaps it was just "go to sleep and let the gov't. do the thinking for you. Just take the sound bites we feed you and let us take care of everything."

I was so Martha yesterday. Looking forward to a repeat performance. We got some major gardening done yesterday. Great joy. One day down, God willing another 180 (give or take a few) days to go.

Made my trademark Whole Wheat Banana bread with fresh strawberries. No- brainer, all. Take your favorite Banana Bread recipe, substitute WW flour, no need for any white flour at all. I cut down the sugar, but use the amount of oil called for. The 2/3 or so cup of fresh strawberries adds enough moisture to really keep the bread soft and moist for as long as it lasts. I use the strawberries that you always get in the carton that are not ripe enough to eat out of hand. Also baked Sweet Potatoes along with it, so have them smashed up with Clementine zest and fresh ginger ready to go for Sweet Potato Pancakes this morning.

Clarification, BillBE. The TJ's dressing is Cranberry Walnut with Gorgonzola. Only 70 cals. per 2 TBS..4.5 gms. of fat..so flavorful that is enough for a huge Spinach Salad with toasted walnuts, dried cranberries, a Clementine, fresh strawberries. See, I zested the Clementines for the sweet potatoes and then used them in the salad.

I was on a Martha roll for sure.

Now if someone could help us with the dawg training. *sigh. We installed the electric fence with the shocker collars for the two dawgs..they have both gotten off the leash and into the shock zone......while we are trying to train them to the flag signal..the warning signal. It is ugly. We have tried to follow the directions for training, but both these irrationally exuberant dawgs are big and fast, and both have shrugged out of their collars. Now damage done.

With spring here and the summer neighbors coming back, we have to contain them. Any suggestions, I am all ears.

Hello :wave:

Anne made this comment but sometimes you just gotta get unhungry and I thought it rang so true. In the past however, I would have taken that opportunity to head over to the market and pick up something unhealthy to fix the hunger problem. Even when I had healthy planned food packed. Im glad I stuck to the plan, even if it just meant getting "unhungry" Thanks Anne!

Im off to home depot with hubby.....exciting eh?! :lol:

Hi Coaches

Well DH and I had a spirited discussion about finances.
He's feeling burdened having shouldered the load while I did my school thing but now I really have to start contributing. I know I have to. I planned to, but the knowing that I really have to is throwing me off. I don't have a good history of making money. Not really. I have a great history of making things that are great but don't bring in lots of money.

Wonder if I can change this?

Anyway I was a ball of volatile emotions, trying to keep it calm and all that. DH loathes to talk about this stuff and I think it's been eating him alive.
But I kept talking about going to Nova Scotia to the Folk Art Festival and he just had to come right out and say "No we can't go unless you can pay for it."

Realistically, I want to go somewhere over the summer. I need to. I don't care where or how far I just need some kind of a trip. I'll have to save for it.
Also, realistically speaking, I have more than enough to keep me busy cleaning out our place and getting rid of stuff and making things for the market and working at the school. I have to make myself do my 10 hrs a week at the school and really I have to focus on $. I also can't forget I am working on a "body of work" for gallery showing and that takes time.

Pressure. I responded by eating chocolate. And then stopping. And then putting it away and then later finishing it. I tried but didn't throw it away. I didn't gorge myself though and I am done eating for the day.

Credit moi? I am sure there are some credits. I just feel worried. This evening I am not sure I can measure up to anything but somehow I have to.
I, my coaches, am just saying this so I don't eat over it.

Second last class is over tomorrow. I still have to work on what I am presenting. On the plus side I have only 11 more linos to carve and I am done that part!

Coaches/Buddies I've been in a really bad mood all day. Just unbelievably irritable. I had a lousy run this morning, and it felt like I've been eating a bunch of garbage all day. In reality, my eating wasn't that bad at all, and I worked my Beck strategies pretty hard. It was just an atypical day, so it felt way off, when it was mostly OK. The food journal almost never works that way for me, giving me good news, but I'll take it. Got lots of spontaneous exercise chasing children.

I did get some sleep last night finally. I took a couple of Benedryl and that seemed to do the trick. I'm doing it again tonight and hopefully that will get a new, good pattern set up for me.

Swim in planned for tomorrow morning. I may try to get to my triathlon club meeting tomorrow night, if DH is up for kid watching alone.

Have I mentioned that DS is walking?

Bill Gerbilina?! LOVE IT!

Hope your big salad turned out yummy.

I love the lack of DST. I have to keep track of calling long distance so we don't wake people up, but we basically just go to sleep. Much more civilized, IMHO. I've heard some recent arrival rant about how stupid it is not to do it, but I basically think they are crazy.

Tera :hug: I'm always so impressed by how strong you are in dealing with all this. I think a depression strategy is a good plan.

maryblu I do occasionally say "I was just floored." Well, at least when something more colorful is inappropriate, LOL.

I once hired a dog behavioralist. Seriously. DH's dog and my dog fought, and it was fix it, or find a new home for one of them. It fixed it. Pricey, but worth it. Hoping this is better way to squander money than a Coach bag. Similar pricing come to think of it.

Robin Good on you for getting unhungry with healthy food.

onebyone Sorry about the discussion with your DH. Finances are always so stressful. FWIW, I think you did a really good job handling your stressors and eating. What would you have done in the past? You are making progress, like the rest of us, and when any of us get to perfection, we'll let you know.

I'm going to go plan and pack up for tomorrow, and probably grump at DH a bit before bed. Haven't figured out exactly what for yet.

Anne

Hi Everyone,

I recently bought the Beck Life/Solution book (older copy) and the workbook. I still need to finish reading the book. It is not that it is not interesting, it is that I am finishing up a semester at college and have been swamped. I will be out in about 10 days though, and then it will be better, that is until summer semester starts. :(

I really want to give this plan a try because it just makes sense. I have already been on my eating plan for almost two months and I exercise an hour a day. My eating plan is using the Richard Simmons Foodmover. It is mainly portion control using the food groups. I like it.

Well it is late and I had better call it a day. I look forward to getting to know everyone.

Candy

:welcome: CJ (CJZee) :welcome:

And, in case you didn't get one of these when you joined 3FC exactly nine months ago, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about the Beck books?

And how did you find out about the Beck thread on 3FC?

:welcome: Candy (CandaceG) :welcome:

And, in case you didn't get one of these when you joined 3FC some ten months ago, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about the Beck Diet Solution?

And how did you find out about the Beck thread on 3FC?

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Took Gerbilina for a walk during a half hour window while DW was preparing dinner. CREDIT moi. She's quiet enough that DW only knew what I was doing because she heard music coming from the spare room. Have to figure out the heart rate monitor - perhaps the extra battery is in fact the only battery. DW is using her regularly.

Got diverted when clam fritters showed up at a quick event where I didn't intend to eat anything. Good grief they were tempting, and yummy. Haven't had fired clams in ages. Was a good diversion - I substituted it for lunch - but sure was surprised to see myself popping fried food. Oh Well.


maryblu - Like, it floors me that you aren't sure that we all talk this way. Of course we do, LOL.

LOL at "stupid" serum; yep that explains everything. Let's put flowers in our ears and go back to the good days. Thanks for the correct name for the T.J.'s dressing; hoping to get there this week.


onebyone - Ouch for spirited discussion. Those do seem to happen just when a transition is in place that is part of the solution. Good luck with the completion of your classes and getting on with your next thing. I hope the crowds are what you need at the art festivals this summer.

Robin (RobinW) - Waving back. Kudos for the exercise you'll get at Home Depot walking to whatever you're shopping for - even if you know where it is.

Anne (wndranne) - Yay for sleeping. Ouch for the irritables. Double Ouch that DS is walking and, with an adventurous big sister, capable of getting into real mischief. A rough period ahead for you until a little wisdom seeps into that brain sponge of his.

Speaking of the great isolated bubble of Arizona (in its own time world), a friend just returned after seeing a male Elegant Trogon. It blew his mind. You keep them all to yourself down there. That's one good looking bird. Of course he saw a zillion humming birds also, but wouldn't talk about them, just the Trogon. Have you ever seen one?


Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for your persistence chasing down information about your hip; thanks for the link to the tendinosis site - an educational read for me.

Developing a depression strategy seems wise, since its first effect would be to install the I don't care thought so that it can remain. Beck's quote today may be applicable.


CJ (CJZee) - Ooops ... my post welcoming you yesterday seems to have been consumed by the ever hungry post monster. So I tried it again.

Candy (CandaceG) - Kudos for getting started with the Beck strategies to supplement your food plan and exercise plan even while you're a bit busy with college courses. You fit right in; as you can read, there are several posters here juggling courses and a healthy lifestyle.

Readers - resistance technique 3
Dispute your I don't care voice.

The tricky part about this sabotaging thought is that it is probably true - in the moment. Fixating on food crowds out you voice of reason. Reread this Response Card from page 21:Is is true that I don't care a this very moment. But if I eat this unplanned food, I am going to care quite a lot in just a few minutes. I know I well feel really bad if I give in, but I well feel terrific if I resist. I need to go do something else.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 98

Good Morning :sunny:

Bill~ Kudos for getting on gerbilna!

Anne~ I hope you are feeling better today. I always hate those "irritated" days. They always feel like such a waste.

onebyone~ :hug: you've done so well so far! I suspect if you find a job doing what you love you won't have trouble at all feeling confident.

:wave: to our new folks!!

Yesterday I was reading in one of my inspirational eater's guides...to close my mouth! Ha! Pretty simple eh? :lol3: The point is tho, keep your mouth closed for food. Kind of the way I consider the kitchen "closed" after 8pm. No eating after 8. Do the same thing with my mouth. Its closed except for specified meal times. That is the only time I can put food into it. Any other times, my mouth is closed for food.

This seemed to work pretty well for me yesterday. Yesterday seemed to be one of those peckish days. I was fighting the urge to have a little of this and a little of that.

I managed to keep the weekend 100% all the way.

Today I meet with my PT. Ive decided to not work my legs in any way that involves lifting them using the muscles in the hip area. I dont want to mess up my hip again before I even get started with her. But she is good enough to be able to work around that kind of thing.

Im off to get ready.....have a great day everyone!

Hey all..I am here. I had a-fib last wednesday just before my stress tests so that when it was time for the test I had taken my pills after I called the dr..so my heart rate would not go up during the test. They had to give me chemicals to do my test. They are now done and am waiting for the restuls. Hopefully it will be a little later this week and the results will be that I will be able to go back to work. Right now the surgery is on hold and we are trying new meds and they seem to be helping me.
As with dh...still waiting to hear anything. Thanks for thinking about me.

WI: +.5
Pain: 0/4/7
Activity: 3

Credits: outline for website done :yay: paypal registration done :yay:

Went to my earth centered spirituality's small group yesterday. It felt good to be among my people again, but probably not the best thing for my hip. It was decided that next meeting, if I couldn't attend in person, we'd teleconference me in.

Didn't fall asleep til after 2:30am this morning. Not good. I need all my energy and brainpower to get through this day.

Maryblu: Thanks for the history lesson and the banana bread recipe. I'd have asked if you hadn't volunteered.

I don't know much about dawgs, or the tethering laws in your state, but when I was a kid, my neighbors had Norwegian Elkhounds. Those dogs loved to run! During the day, they tethered them to something like a clothes line that ran the entire length of their unfenced yard. The dogs had access to every square inch of the property, and never seemed interested in getting loose.

Onebyone: Ouch for the financial pressure. I'm sure that getting your career off the ground is going to take research and planning, just like getting healthy.

Definitely credit vou. You brought your anxiety here instead of the kitchen.

Anne: If I have as much trouble tonight as I had last, I might try Benadryl too.

Congrats and sympathies for your son reaching this milestone. Now you get to enjoy watching things from the top shelf of your bookcase magically appear in his hands. ;)

Candy: :welcome: and congrats on getting through this semester. What year are you in and what's your major?

Bill: :yay: for breaking in Gerbilina! Nice that she's such a smooth, quiet machine!

Robin: :yay: for the new strategy!

Chris: :wave: and :hug: Thank you for the update.

Hello,had a bad painful day yesterday and rested alot.Today was able to get out to lunch with my husband and around the grocery store.Now I am on the heating pad,less pain today,I may get better yet!Has anyone tried the diet plan in the new book for any length of time? I am trying it but it seems a little complicated.It gives me alot of food 2000 cal but some of the exchanges are a little confusing.Like some of the fruit exchanges,2 1/2 tangerines or 2/3 of a mango.What do I do with the other 1/2 and 1/3?Odd,I understant the idea that they are going by 100 calories but it makes it complicated.Also some things are excessive for me anyway,1 1/2 cups of eggplant or 1 2/3 cups cooked zucchini or 2 cups cottage cheese.Who eats 2 cups of cottage cheese?Any suggestions appreciated.

twilit tera-That is terrible abour your hip and that you are still in so much pain and can't get it resolved.How long has this been going on?Can you sign up for some medical assistance?Sorry if that is too personal or something you have already discussed.I know this whole tendon thing has me on edge and sort of depressed at the things I can't get done.If they told me they don't know what was wrong or learn to live with it I would have to smack someone!

RobinW-Great job on 100% for the entire weekend!

BillBlueEyes-1/2 hr on the eliptical is a very good workout I used to only do a few minutes on it at tth Y.

Welcome CJZee and CandaceG!!!!!

wndranne-Kudos for keeping with your Beck plan even if your mood was not cooperating,I get that way too and tend to compensate with sugary treats.

onebyone-Sounds like you have alot going on at once but you deserve credit for sticking with the program.What are you studying at school?

maryblu-You are right about time flying! Your salad sounds delicious and the bannanna bread.I have been trying some things out using the whole wheat flour.I was surprised on the bag 1/4 cup has 4g fiber and 4g of protein. I am trying to boost my protein.

I forgot to mention in my previous note.
BillBlueEyes-I love to get to the yard sales too,I find most of my glass I sell on ebay at yard sales,church rummage sales and thrift stores.Yard sales are just starting around here as it gets warmer,it was killing me sitting here on the couch while those sales are going on.
one-by-one-an you sell some of your projects on ebay for extra money?It sounds like you are busy the way it is but you can make a few bucks.I remember those lovely pins you made.I sell mostly vintage glass and vintage jewelry.Also extra craft supplies sell well if you have some you are not going to use.The selling season is best for me anyway once school gets back in until just after New Years with a surge during tax refunds.Summer for me has been very slow.

Coaches/Buddies I'm calling it an almost on plan day. I forgot to take in my prepacked lunch, so I had to wing it, but made some good choices. I also got my swim in, and feel good about that. I had a migraine today, but it wasn't too bad and passed pretty quickly.

So plan for tomorrow is done and lunch is packed. I have to lay out my running clothes for the morning, but then I'm set. I'm going to watch the Tudors on my DVR and then hit the hay. I have a late meeting tomorrow, so I'm staying home with the kids in the morning and DH is picking them up in the afternoon.

Candy I think getting started when life settles a bit is a good idea. BDS takes some time, especially at first. Welcome to our group.

Bill I take it you enjoyed your clam fritters. Give yourself credit for that, and then do it again in a year!

I looked up the Elegant Trogon and have not seen it. Beautiful bird though. I'll look for it, but guessing suburban Tucson isn't its favorite habitat.

Robin :high: on a 100% weekend! Nothing like getting some momentum going.

Chris Hoping your test comes out OK, and you can get back to work.

Tera Glad you got to your group yesterday. It must feel good to get connected again. Love that you can telecon into it if you need to!

Wendy Sorry for your painful day. I seem to recall thinking the same sorts of things about the Beck plan on 7/8 cup of yogurt. But because I'm on a "sensible" plan, and not trying to Beck the grapefruit diet or something, I used it as data, and just continued on.

DS is not happy. Will talk to you tomorrow.

Anne

Hi,

Thank you everyone for the lovely welcomes. I feel so special. :thanks:

Bill, I heard of the Beck Solution right here from you on 3FC. I joined 3FC many months back but never really posted much, kind of just thought about getting on a weight loss plan, but didn't take any action. About a month ago I was reading through some post and saw this thread and decided to see what the Beck Solution was about. Read up about it online and then bought the book and workbook used. (living on a student's budget ;)) So, thank you for being here so that I could discover it.

twilit tera- I am in my second year working toward a degree in education. Two more years to go. But I will say that the last two years have flown by so maybe two more years is not so bad. My two daughters are also taking classes. Josey is at the end of her 3rd year toward a bachelors in nursing and Tobey, like me, is finishing up her 2nd year in education. We all take online classes through a college about 45 minutes from here. We can go in if we need to but mainly it is all online. I can graduate all the way with online classes, isn't that cool. Saves a fortune in driving expenses plus saves time.

I also have two boys, 18 and 20. They too live her with me and for now they are taking care of the "farm". We have a few acres, one acre in garden, and we have a couple milk goats, a milk cow, bees, and lots of poultry. The boys are keeping everything running till the girls and I are out of school and then the girls and I are going to help the boys start a woodworking business. We have plans. :)

So far so good on my eating plan and exercise. I do not think I have messed up or missed on either since I began two months ago. Something is different this time. It is not even hard, it is just coming together. Sounds dumb I guess.

I am glad that everyone is doing well. I am dying to get out in the garden. My boys have it started and the greenhouse they built is filled with adorable plants waiting to see real dirt. If I had my choice in life I would be a gardener. Too bad it does not pay better and come with health insurance! ;)

Take care everyone and keep up the good work.
That elliptical sounds pretty cool Bill. I use to use one years ago at the Y but it was a bit different. They are a good workout. Put some music on and it can be a fun time.

Candy

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Nothing special. Didn't overeat last night at a meeting with food on the table. CREDIT moi. But that's a slightly muted credit because there wasn't much tempting bad-for-me food, LOL.

The pad arrived that's to go under the elliptical. By someone's screw up, likely mine, it didn't arrive with the installer. Now all I gotta do is lift it and slide it under. That will be my weight lifting exercise for the day for sure.


Robin (RobinW) - Good plan to favor your hip til you get it calmed. Kudos for a whole weekend OP - what a way to start the week. I also like the simplicity of " ... to close my mouth!"

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for the swimming and clothes laid out for running. I do like the cadence of your regular exercising.

If you do spot an Elegant Trogon in suburban Tuscon, call the Arizona Audubon society IMMEDIATELY - you'll see a stampede of birders with spotting scopes that, itself, will be a show.


Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for getting back to your earth centered spirituality group. Ouch for the tension between the spirit and the hip. Good luck finding your path there.

Chris (angelmomma210) - Yay for the new meds working. Sending supportive thoughts to your DH for his saga and to you for the results of the test.

Wendy (Wendylan) - Ouch for yesterday's pain, but great that you got out anyway. LOL at your observation the Beck recipes require parts of a fruit. Yep, for me, it's like Yoda would say, "There is mango or not mango; there is no half."

Candy (CandaceG) - Kudos for two months (!!!) of on-plan eating and exercise - sound really good.

Neat that your boys did a greenhouse; feeling a twinge of envy since I'm stepping over our tomato plants on the kitchen floor as they come inside each evening the past couple of days. DW won't let them sleep over outside when it drops below 50 degrees. Only two weeks until they can go in the ground.


Readers - resistance technique 4
Quell your "adolescent rebellion."

That's what Erica calls the voice that says, I'm going to do what I want ... I'm going to eat this unplanned food. It's wonderful to have a childlike part that is lighthearted and free. It's terrible if it keeps you - the adult - from achieving a very important goal or deprives you of the benefits of losing weight.
. . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 98

Hi coaches,

I've been missing you guys but you've been with me in spirit in that I'm still managing to read my response cards and so many of them are quotes from your posts! Issues with work have me swamped for the time being. I can't realistically see getting back to my routine here for a few more weeks, although I'll keep trying to pop in when I can find a minute.

I'm proud to report I have been on plan with my calorie counting diet plan, although with a lot more substitutions due to less time. I usually stay nutritionally equivalent (no cookies instead of brown rice!). Haven't been to the gym in almost 2 weeks but I'm determined to get there tomorrow and yesterday I did ab crunches at home. I can just feel my core / abdominal muscles going away :yikes: Weight is about right, slowly decreasing. Still no diet cokes! :yay:

Not reading and posting has me feeling like a pillar of my program is missing and I'm a little wobbly; I know your encouragement and motivation has been a big part of my success. I hate not having the time to read your posts and reply individually but I'm putting aside my "all or nothing" thinking and CREDIT moi for accepting this is all I can do today and it's better than nothing!

:wave: Hope everyone is doing well!

CJ (CJZee) - Yep, using South Beach or Atkins is just fine while pursuing the strategies of Beck. In her first book, there is no eating plan and you are required to choose two - a primary and a backup plan. Do you plan to read the current book or the first one?


Thank you to Bill and everyone for the kind welcome. Would you recommend the first book or the second?

Also, to your questions re the book and forum -- I have been active on 3FC for the past 2 months and enjoy reading your positive thread. I see it often when I search for "new posts". Then I read some reviews online of Judith Beck's book, which is what has brought me to this place and time.

You are all most appreciated. CJ

Good Morning!

CJ~ Id recommend the first one (first) Get that one under your belt, work it, then go on to the second one.

davidette~ Big Kudos for acknowledging the "all or nothing" mentality. Sometimes thats just so tough. Another Big Kudos for making it here to post :hug:

Bill~ be careful lifting that thing! Kudos for passing on the food, even if it wasnt all that appetizing. More Kudos for not eating it just because it was there :)

Anne~ have a great op day today! :cheers:

Candy :wave:

wendylan~ I dont use the diet in Dr. Beck's 2nd book. I prefer choosing my own plan which was in the first book. If you are looking for interesting cottage cheese recipes go here. http://www.stumptuous.com/the-cottage-cheese-page this is where I learned to like cottage cheese :lol:

Workout went great yesterday with my PT. She is going to send me my weeks worth of workouts, and check up on me during the week. She is also going to be involved in my blog. I even got the comments fixed!! :cb: :cb: So that's pretty cool!

I have an event on friday...a dessert and wine baby shower. I wont have any issues passing on the wine, since I am driving I wont touch it. But I could use some strategies on passing on the desserts. (lets hope they are filled with nuts!) That makes it all simple :lol: (Im allergic)

Im op all the way!

Have a great day everyone!

Doh! passing on the desserts...

"That's just not about me anymore."

sometimes I get brain freeze :lol:

WI: -.5
Pain: 0/3/6
Activity: 2

Credits: Much needed rest :yay:, Calling C to get in to see her earlier :yay:, drinking much water :yay:

Rested all day, then went to the Chiropractor. I got to see my x-rays. I plan to email and ask if she can send the images to me so I can show my family. My spine was curved to the right and one hip was clearly higher than the other.

One thing that definitely seems clear is that there isn't just one problem. It's a whole system that has been gradually getting more and more out of whack. The event in November was merely the final straw. So maybe there's tendon damage, but there's also a lot of work to do to get my skeletal system back in shape so I don't continue getting injured.

She gave me another adjustment, then hooked my hip up to something like a tens unit. I spent some time on that, then she massaged my upper leg very deeply. When I got off the table there was a significant reduction in my pain level and all the muscle spasms in my hip and thigh were gone!

Today I feel better than I have in a while. My thigh is pretty sore where she massaged it, but this isn't unexpected. The hip pain is lower. I was able to walk in the pool 10 minutes before changing to backstroke.

C said she wants me to move it as I can, not to stress it too much, but to do gentle stretches and get up and move around a bit throughout the day. My next appointment with her is Thursday night.

I'm going to be so very on plan today! :cheer:

Wendy: Sorry to hear about the rise in pain levels, and bummer about missing those yard sales, but I'm glad you're taking it easy now.

I've applied for assistance for one hospital, and I have an appointment for prescreening at another. I should be able to get some discount from them, but it remains to be seen how much, and since we're just getting by on B's income, I'll need to find a way to earn cash even though I can't work. (my application for SSDI is in process.)

I guess the only thing to do is keep working at it.

Candy: Way cool about your completely online Education degree! I don't think it sounds dumb at all, that things are clicking for you this time and you're finding it easy to stay on plan. I think that for most of us, it's just a matter of finding the right plan!

Bill: :D good for you not eating food in front of you. Tempting or not, it would have been a simple thing to just reach out and nibble.

Davidette: :yay: for staying OP during your hiatus. :yay::yay: for doing as much as you can here, and accepting it.

CJ: I haven't read the second, but from what I've heard, I'd say it depends. If you already have a diet and exercise plan that you're happy with, I'd recommend the first book, which contains lots of useful strategies to help you stay on that plan. If you're still searching for a plan that works for you, you might want to use the second, with its built-in plan.

Or... just listen to Robin. :) She's well worth listening to!

Robin: :yay: for all the blog progress! :dust: and :crossed: for that baby shower.

EEO took dh's case. Now they are investigation. Still waiting on the results..it may take a few day.

Coaches/Buddies On plan today. I had a bad day at work, and didn't really want to eat. Got my run in today, and did a nice 3 mile run with no walks. I'm happy about that; I was starting to worry that I had lost the recipe.

I'm planned, packed and ready for tomorrow. Mountain biking tomorrow morning. Also have a special situation with a colleague's retirement lunch. I'm guessing we're doing Mexican, so I've planned fajitas, which are a reasonable option.

Candy I hope you got to play in your garden. Glad to see you with us.

Bill Hope your weightlifting went OK, with no back problems.

Grinning at the thought of a flock of birdwatchers descending upon my little neighborhood, giant lenses in tow.

davidette I was wondering where you went. Good to see you back, and staying on plan, even with substitutions.

CJ I liked the second book a lot, but find myself going back to the first book more often, since I don't used the CBDL food plan.

Robin I think your desserts will have nuts. You'd better stay away just to be safe.

Tera I'm so happy to hear about your good experience with the chiropractor. Waiting to hear about your being on plan!

Chris So glad to hear the EEO people took DH's case.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - A ho-hum day. Took a moment to CREDIT moi while eating my lunch at my desk; I really like my white bean salad. And I was gloating a bit that I had served myself the portion I wanted even though that left about a quarter serving in the Glad container I was scooping from. My old self would have just dumped it all in. So CREDIT moi for that.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for the good workout with your personal trainer; you're on such a roll there.

Just love it that Designated Driver so completely solves the wine issue at your upcoming event. There needs to be a similar Designated Healthy Person for skipping the sugar/lard dessert tables.


Anne (wndranne) - Congrats for having the mind that responds to a bad day at work by not wanting to eat. That's rare. 3FC is inundated with posts about converting a bad day at work into a junk food binge.

Tera (twilit tera) - That's a pretty exciting result from your chiropractor. It seems useful that you're seeing a whole system view of your hip/spine/body and the need to get it all aligned. Hope this continues for you.

Kudos for calling to get to see her earlier.


Chris (angelmomma210) - Yay that the EEO is on the job. Hope they get back to you soon and with good news.

davidette - Yep, BIG Kudos for seeing past that "all or nothing" thinking that if you can't post perfect personals, you can't post at all. Methinks that all or nothing thinking is about the easiest path to the slippery slope.

Ouch that work interferes with real life. BTDT. But Kudos for staying OP with your eating plan and staying away from diet Cokes.

Keep the faith; it's only a few more weeks.


CJ (CJZee) - Re: Would you recommend the first book or the second? hmmmmmm.... not so obvious to me. I truly appreciated the first book because I methodically traveled the 42 Program Days reporting my progress on this thread. This helped me to work the strategies that I would tend to just skip over, such as, eat slowly and mindfully. I discovered that I didn't eat slowly or mindfully, that I ate standing up on my way to the table, and that sometimes I couldn't recall what I had just eaten because I was just shoveling food in. The first two weeks of the 42 days are golden.

However, the five stages of the second book make more sense. It's a good progression. And the key strategies of the first two weeks of the first book are well covered. I especially like the Cheat Sheet idea (pages 103-105); you can get a good feel for how they can be used well by reading some old Anne (wndranne) posts.

So, either one is a good choice. If I had to make the choice for you, I'd suggest the second book. In a year, I'd then suggest getting the original book for a review of strategies that you might be skipping over lightly.


Readers - resistance technique 4
Quell your "adolescent rebellion."
. . .
When you think, I'm not going to follow my plan becasue I don't want to, read the following Response Card:"I don't want to" is just my adolescent rebellion talking. I'm not going to pay attention to it.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 98

WI: -1.5
pain: 0/2/6
Activity: 2

Credits: making chicken soup & crustless quiche :yay:, :swim: :yay:, counting calories :yay:

It was an uneventful day, apart from the pain levels being low. :) A little schoolwork, a little housework.

Small insight: If I start out each day with the exclamation: "I'm going to be SO on plan today" what do you bet I'll be on plan more?

And is it weird to say I saw an inspiring South Park ep yesterday? I have a new slogan to keep me on track: "True disceprine comes for rithin." I know, very un-PC to make fun of someone's accent, but I still giggle. And it applies so well to answer that adolescent rebellion in the quote of Bill's post today.

Chris: :yay: for some progress in your hubby's case! It's about time for some good news!

Anne: :yay: biking and :yay: fajitas!

Bill: :yay: for bean salad and for leaving some un-et.

Small insight: If I start out each day with the exclamation: "I'm going to be SO on plan today" what do you bet I'll be on plan more?


Head slap. I'm doing this RIGHT NOW.

Thank you, Tera!

Anne

:wave: everyone! :sunny:

Its a gorgeous day here in buffalo!! Ive gotten, signed up permanently with the gym, gotten 2 orders of shirts printed off, & some samples for signs done. Now I can get to the more fun stuff! :lol:

Im op all the way, except for the creamer that I put in my coffee last night. It was that coffeemate flavour stuff. Loaded with corn syrup solids. Oh well. I am going to go looking for those flavoured splenda packets for this particular meeting that I will be attending every tuesday night.

Kudos to me for NOT eating the pizza at the meeting last night. It smelled sooooooooooooooooooooooo good! :drool:

Anne~ I think you're right....they will most likely all have nuts, and the ones that don't will be next to the ones with nuts! :D

Tera~ uneventful with little pain and other odds and sods getting done sounds like a great day!

Bill~ Kudos for eating what you wanted instead of what you "thought" you might have wanted.

Ive got about 2 hours freed up this afternoon to work in my blog. My PT has sent my workout for the week to me. I'll be posting that (with her permission)

Ive also been thinking about my food addiction and how Ive hidden it. Lies we tell......something else I want to write about.

Ok, Im off I hope everyone is having a fabulous day!!

Good Afternoon Coaches.

First the bad news; those 6lbs lost are back. Back to 266.6 this morning. Oh well :mad: & :cry: both at the same time.
I may be retaining water for TOM; I may be retaining water from food choices. It may be a little of both. I may be retaining from plain old stress too. Oh but coaches we're really in the final stretch now. I just, about a minute ago, completed the last of my 52 small bus strike-themed linoblock carvings for my linoblock print to be made tomorrow. This is it, my magnum opus for my year at school and my final apprenticeship project. I have to bring all my work to the grad review meeting next Tues so my work can be selected for the grad show. My bus strike print will be pretty big. Rob, my teacher, suggested we may print it full width so it'll be 48" wide by 60" long. This is ENORMOUS for a handprinted print. Crazy. I'll believe it only when it's done and that will be tomorrow afternoon. And yesterday I was on the bus going to the grad meeting and my sister got on the bus at an odd stop. I haven't run into my sister for 1.5 years and then twice in one week. What's that about. So I hopped up and sat beside and we talked like nothing had happened between us. I sure hope that's real. We're getting together on friday afternoon for coffee/lunch and I called her, left a message (haha RobinW! This is really what happened no planning on my part either!) and then she called back and we made plans. At the very end of the conversation she said "I have lots of news." "I'll bet you have," I said. So... my family enters my life again.

And then I found myself harbouring extra stress from the "how do I make money" feelings heaped on me by my DH a few days ago. Once I get to worrying sometimes it just continues before I calm down and find my way again. I can't say I haven't mis-used food these last few days. I have. I haven't gone hog wild but I am not on track. I do have a fresh start every day and I do know I can do it. I'm keeping the faith.

Just a quick check in today,had to get our elderly poodle to vet and decided to schedule her for surgery in the morning,other choice was to put her to sleep.Kids are crying,alot of stress today and I see the doctor Thur to see about physical therapy and when I can return to work.That awful employee health nurse wanted me back in light duty 1 week after my tendon tore,luckily the doctor is taking it slow and wanted another week of rest heat and elevation before starting physical therapy and perhaps light duty.Anyway food plan flew out the window and I didn't eat alot just not what I had planned and I had some real deep fried french fries and steak for dinner,my trigger foods are more sweets though.I will check back in Thursday.

I’ve been hiding. We had a friend over for dinner on Saturday. Not surprisingly, since my major challenge seems to be drinking socially, I drank too much. It’s inexplicable to me that I didn’t even think about making a plan ahead of time. :doh: I know drinking socally trips me up. I know I do fairly well when I make a plan. Not perfect, but very well. I have no explanation for my lack of forethought… :shrug: After much cajoling, I made myself do a mistake analysis (aka cheat sheet) yesterday. The 3 cheat sheets I’ve done for these kinds of evenings are almost identical. So I need to make sure I make a plan every single time I will be drinking socially. Do I need to write this 100 hundred times on a chalk board, a la a 1950s classroom?? (I hope not.)

I’ve been slowly getting back into the Beck routine. Although I drank too much on Sat. my overall calorie intake was only about 300 calories above the typical. Otherwise, I’ve been at or below my usual goals. I’ve started making a daily plan again starting yesterday, but not as thoroughly as I normally do. I’m hoping by getting back into the posting routine, I’ll get myself fully on track for tomorrow.

WI-I have weighed myself everyday. I was up 3.5 lbs on Mon, but have lost all of it by this AM. I’ve been fully op with exercise every day. I had some pretty strong fatigue from starting to use 2 lb weights in my upper body workout 2x/week. Fatigue ranged from 2.0 -3.7 Fri-Tues. Today was a bright spot at 1.5. I think my body is adjusting to the weights. :yay:

I’m going to start my personals with davidette’s post yesterday AM.

davidette Sorry work has got you so busy! :yay: for no diet cokes. Good luck getting the exercise in, but credit for saying op in calories. I totally hear you on feeling wobbly. I do need this group to keep me on track. No man is an island… :)

CJZee :welcome: I’ve only read the 2nd book, but it is great!

angelmomma Great news on dh. :)

Anne It sounds like you had a great day! You exercise routine always amazes me… :) Yum fajitas – my top choice for Mexican - reasonable for calories / fat, and naturally gluten free.

Bill :woohoo: leaving white beans in your Glad container! How’s the Sole treating you?

Tera Wow the chiro sounds marvelous! :D lower pain levels – how great! And your weight is down 1.5 lbs! hooray for swimming!

Robin The world is a better place when your sun is shining. :sunny: Kudos for joining the gym, and credit for being op, accounting for your extra creamer, and, especially, for not eating the great smelling pizza!

one by one Wow – how cool you saw your sister again so soon. Almost sounds like some movie, rather than real life. But I’m glad it’s happening – it’s a good thing. :) Credit for Not going wild on food, credit for knowing every day is a fresh start. Keeping the faith is at the core of it all I guess.

Wendylan I’m terribly sorry about your poodle – it’s so hard… I’m glad the doctor is taking it slow with your tendon. I hope tomorrow is a better day.

Did I mention I’m really happy to be among friends again? :wave:

Coaches/Buddies On plan today, even with my special lunch event. Feels good. I got in my mountain bike ride. I continue to make progress and am approaching a beginner level, up from the "OMG I'M FREAKING OUT" level I started at. Good to face fears once in a while. Especially the primal ones, like falling on big sharp rocks and pointy cactus.

Things at work are now being handled. I'm having to do a lot of political damage control. I hate that kind of thing, although I'm reasonably competent at it (usually), and I prefer to just do some math. Do good work, build honest relationships and the rest takes care of itself. Except when it doesn't. Sigh. I think it will work out, but probably have to wait months to see. At least I have a plan, and am reasonably confident in it. Still don't feel a drive to eat from this--clearly not my issue, thank goodness.

Tomorrow's plan is a run. 3 miles with a couple pick ups for some speed work. I need to do the usual post-post chores tonight, read RCs, make food plan, update spreadsheets. I got all green on my Beck list a couple days ago. Proud of that. I usually don't get something.

Bill Nice work on leaving a bit of your salad, and for taking the time to give yourself credit. Hurray for ho hum.

Tera Glad your pain levels were low. Do you think it is the chiropractic treatment? Sounds promising to me.

RobinW Since non-dairy creamer isn't real food, do you have to count it, LOL? Nice work on avoiding the pizza!

onebyone :hug: You're ALMOST there. Inches. You've got this.

I think your encounter with your sister sounded very healthy. Fingers crossed it continues to go well.

Wendy Hope all goes well with your poodle. Sounds like your doc has you covered on your injury. And I think you did well with all the stresses in your life right now. Take credit for whatever you can. No need to wait for perfection--we'd all still be waiting.

ChinaMaine Drinking is tough. Not so much the drink itself, for me anyway, but the bad food decisions that come along with it. I have to be very careful and controlled, or just prepared for a blow-out, which occasionally is OK. I'm glad you are back on track and back with us.

Take care, everyone!

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did gym including lunges forward and lunges backward. CREDIT moi. I need to find a way to stay centered when working alone at the gym. The thought keeps popping into my mind, You're a bit tired, you could stop now. When I'm taking a class or with a trainer, I don't have that thought. I then to think, Oh, you're tired, it's working. Seems like the Beck-like solution is to, duh, go with the trainer. But I'm resistant to pay the steep price three times a week. Gotta work this one to be sure that I stay the course.

Eating was on plan. CREDIT moi. It's a bit easy when all food is under my control and nothing appears unexpectedly.


onebyone - That is certainly going to be an ENORMOUS print; can't wait to hear how it turns out.

Yay for the coincidence of bumping into your sister again; sounds like it broke the barrier to allow a natural chat.

Sending supportive thoughts for the final push.


Robin (RobinW) - Yep, BIG Kudos for not eating pizza when you can smell it, see it, and your brain can already taste it. (Not to mention that it's FREE.)

And Kudos for joining your gym; now you're committed.


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for office politics; Kudos for being aware that you have to work them like it or not. Good news for smooth sailing through the office lunch; Kudos for carefully planning ahead.

Tera (twilit tera) - Yay for getting inspiration wherever it's to be found, including South Park. Gotta love, "True disceprine comes for rithin." That'll go on my Response Cards.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for doing a Cheat Sheet; you're winning when you're aware.

The Sole is serving us well. I do like that it's quiet; I can't hear DW from the adjacent room when she's on it. Not yet part of my regular routine. Maybe that'll change, maybe not; it would replace my walks which I value.


Wendy (Wendylan) - Good luck to both you and your elderly poodle at your respective doctors today.

Yep, beware of that light duty. In your line of work it might be hard to work light when chaos reigns.


Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.

If I'm not supposed to eat something, I will remind myself, Just because I feel like eating doesn't mean I should ... There's no emergency ... I'll be so glad in a few minutes if I don't give in. ...

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 99

This is attempt #3 to post!!! :mad: Pushing the wrong button on this keyboard will cause me to lose a page I'm on! Sorry folks, but this is going to have to be quick now. I may come back to do personals after I've gotten some work done.

WI: +1
Pain: 0/3/7
Activity: 4

Credits: counted calories :yay:; vitamins :yay: (been doing it all along, just forgot to give myself credit); sold off old bikes for therapy money :yay:

Some other accomplishments I forgot to mention yesterday - I got B & me a state sales tax ID#, and a business account on USPS.com. I'm going to build the "personal healthcare crisis" website (linking the national issue with a personal story) this summer. After completing my degree, B & I are going to launch the online comic production!

Hopefully I'll be back in a few hours to address everyone else's posts.

Good Morning :lifter:

What a good girl I am...I was up at the crack-of-stupid working out in the gym! Dont you think everyone there should turn when you walk in and yell "ROBIN" like they used to greet Norm on cheers? :lol3: Might make having to go not quite so bad :rofl:

Bill~ "when you can smell it, see it, and your brain can already taste it. (Not to mention that it's FREE.)" Oh yes!! I agree!!! My brain certainly could taste it! Strange eh?! Do you have an mp3 player? Listening to music might help. I cant listen to music when Im doing weights, because I loose count when I sing along in my head :lol: But it might work for you. Another idea, have the trainer print out the workout you are doing for the week, then focus on each step on the paper? Just a thought.


Anne~ creamer not being real food might work :lol: I just wish it wasnt so full of sugar. I dont get why they dont make that stuff with a sweetener.
Good luck getting thru the political stuff at work. Its good that you are good at it.....Im not. I hate that stuff!

ChinaMaine~ Kudos for making your cheat sheet and recognizing that social drinking is an issue for you. The social stuff isnt my issue, its when Im home watching desperate housewives :lol3: The bottle usually empties before the show is over! :dunno:

wendylan~ :hug: I hope your poodle makes it thru the surgery ok, and its what he needs. Sick pets are just so hard to deal with arent they :(

onebyone~ yah for you!! She called you back! Im glad, I hope things have settled down with what ever issues "she" was having.

Im op all the way. My weight has been fluctuating a little bit 1/2 lb up 1/2 lb down etc. Its been doing that all week. Im glad I started getting on the scale a while ago....seeing the changes doesnt hurt so bad.

I have noticed tho, when I dont drink my water the scale goes up or stays still. Note to self: Drink you water!

Im off to get a new haircut! Have a great day everyone!

WI-unchanged. Beck – Read my cards, made a plan. It was a much more complete than it has been lately. Although I didn’t verify that my sat fat and fiber levels were okay, the calories are. Food – op, Exercise – op (today I used handweights). Fatigue: 3.2 (1=Feels great, 5=Extreme Fatigue) I have real brain fog today – my least favorite symptom of fatigue. It’s like having marshmallows for brains…

Anne Yes, political damage control gets in the way of doing 'real' work doesn't it? Kudos for doing it anyway -- too bad you'll need to wait months to see if it works out. Credit for all the green smilies, being op, etc. :)

Bill Credit for being op and for fighting those sabotaging thoughts about being tired. It is hard to figure out how to add in new exercise isn’t it? Time is finite. Oh well...

Tera Just a thought, but I write all my posts in a word doc, and then paste them into the reply box. That way, I still have the message even if the 3fc site barfs… Sorry the pain level is higher – but congrats on the higher activity level! Kudos on counting calories and selling the bikes. :)

Robin I absolutely think everyone should turn and yell ‘Robin’ when you arrive at the gym. :D Credit for taking the typical ups and downs on the scale in stride!

Hi coaches

I did it. My final print is done. It's not perfect, in a couple of places it ripped but it can be repaired. It took 4 hours from start to finish. And I want to do another one! Now that we did the one I know how to go about it and I hope the second print turns out better=no rips.

So. A few more things to do before I am "free" but technically I have now satisfied all the criteria for my 3 year program and I am done and art school diploma bound:bravo: to me for seeing this through.

I've seen a lot of sabotage going on around me in these last few weeks. Either spouses or students themselves but everyone seems to have had a struggle so I am in good company.

Anyway I've attached a jpg of my print. This is the fruit of my labour for this past semester. I'll be trimming the edges of my print a bit but the width will stay the same. In this image the print measures 96" wide x 48" tall. It's big and I love it.

Credit moi for seeing this through.
Thanks for being here coaches.

Coaches/Buddies On plan again today. Now if only my weight would get with the program. Geeze. Kind of a lousy run this morning, but I was feeling lousy, tired and sore, so I'll call it a victory and move on. Sore. Ah, that's it. Swollen muscles retain water. Duh. Other than that, ho hum. Yes!

Tomorrow is nonstop. Riding with a friend at 6 a.m. Back by 8 to shower, then off to take DD for her haircut, then to daycare for a "Mommy spa" thing where she puts cucumbers on my eyes :D, maybe a coffee, off to the doc for my physical, meeting another friend for lunch, shopping for teacher appreciation gifts, back to daycare to pick up, and then home for toddler fun. I'm already tired. I've got to figure out some kind of food plan that fits this.

Bill I'm willing to harass you (virtually of course) if you slack on your gym workouts. A bit tired?! Wa ha ha ha ha!

Tera Sorry bout the post monster. Glad to hear about the business accounts and the website.

RobinW Welcome to the crack-of-stupid! Did you know that Bill's posts show up for me at about 2-3 am, and I'm often awake to read them. Sigh. Crack-of-stupid indeed. (This means you are doing an awesome job with your commitment, BTW. I'm impressed!)

ChinaMaine Ouch for the fatigue and brain fog. Sounds like you are getting back on track just fine. Steps in the right direction.

onebyone WONDERFUL! onebywonderful! A big congrats for getting from there to here!

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Iffy weather made my after work walk seem less appealing. No problem, I took Gerbilina for a walk instead. Nice. CREDIT moi. There is the advantage that I'm not tempted to walk past Whole Foods and their FREE samples. Put Neil Diamond in the old boom box sitting right there. Wondered if Cherry Cherry was about food. Had never had that thought in the zillion years since I first heard that song, LOL.

Eating was on plan, ho-hum, CREDIT moi.


onebyone - Kudos for finishing the work of the three year program. And you're still standing, LOL.

Love the SIZE of your print; would be fun to walk down it seeing the story of the transportation strike unfold.


Robin (RobinW) - Big Kudos for gym at "crack-of-stupid", LOL.

You're right, it would be a great motivator to be greeted by everyone when entering the gym. It continues to amaze me that, after three and a half years at the gym, there's only a handful of people I exchange greetings with. And most of those I know from outside gym. My gym is not a people kind of place.


Anne (wndranne) - That "Mommy Spa" might require extra effort to keep a straight face. You need to bring your camera to the teacher to get pictures with cucumber eyes, LOL.

Thanks for the offer to harass me if I succumb to the vapors instead of doing my gym. Your total non-sympathy is just what I need. I'll think of you at 9am my time, me at the office starting a two hour tele-conference, you out for a two hour bike ride. You win, LOL.


Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for moving forward with your business plan; an online comic production sounds like a gas.

My response to the old post monster is to paste my post into a dot txt file before I hit [Submit Reply]. This also protects me against a Firefox crash or a MS Windows crash. But I also lost one earlier this year when I was in a hurry and didn't take that precaution.


ChinaMaine - Ouch for the increased fatigue. And Kudos for ho-hum OP and OP despite it.

Great motivator for me to remember when I'm entertaining the Sabotaging Thought, "I'm tired" when I'm really not; just suffering from the vapors, LOL.


Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.
...
Successful dieters and maintainers stay successful becasuse they don't eat whatever they want, whenever they want it. They stick to their plans. ...

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 99

:( I didn't get to come back and do personals. oh, well.

WI: -1
Pain: 0/1/6
Activity: 1

Credits: counting calories :yay:, taking vitamins :yay:, making a decent substitution on the sandwich I didn't get for dinner :yay:, NOT eating out of frustration :yay:, seeing C :yay:

C wants to see 5 days of my food tracking, including water. She also gave me a heel lift for the left foot. One of my feet appears to come down further from my torso than the other, but she doesn't know if i that's caused by the tilt in my hips brought on by the curve in my spine, or if the curve in my spine is caused by the tilt in my hips brought on by a difference in my leg lengths. She said we'll try the lift and see if there's any improvement.

Robin: about "might make having to go not so bad" Is there anything you can think of that you liked about going to the gym? I think that as you become a regular there, you'll find a certain sense of cameraderie with the others. It just takes time. At least, I know that's been my experience. Now there are a few different folks who will stop to chat with me, though people aren't yet shouting "Tera!" at my entrance. ;)

ChinaMaine: My sympathies for your brain fog. I can just imagine what a struggle that makes everything else. :yay: for being OP in spite of it!

Yeah, using a word doc (or text file a la Bill) would make all kinds of sense. I can't think of a single reason not to, but my weird brain pouts at the thought and says, "I don' wanna." Does that make any sense? I usually copy posts before hitting the submit button (which is where glitches usually occur).

onebyone: :yay: for competing your print and :woohoo: for completing college! You deserve a HUGE round of applause:
:cp::cp::cp::cp::cp:

I would love to be able to see your print in person!

Anne: :yay: for figuring out where your extra weight was coming from and pushing through!

Bill: :yay: for using Gerbilina both to get your exercise and to keep out of temptation's way! :lol: about Cherry, Cherry. I'm reasonably certain that if it were about food, you'd have wondered that a long time ago.

Thanks for the tip. Of course the one time you don't take the precaution, you will have wished you had. Murphy warned us, after all. :lol:

Tera~ Is there anything you can think of that you liked about going to the gym? there are lots and lots of nice things to look at ;) (but Id still rather be sleeping) :lol3:

I just popped in to say a quick hello, we hit the floor running this morning!

Everything is op all the way, I plan to succedd tonight at the baby shower! :cb:

Catch you all tomorrow....have a wonderful friday afternoon!

Im home and I did it :cb: :carrot: :broc: they even had baked brie! :drool:

Im having my tea and Im off to bed :D

Coaches/Buddies I had an awesome bike today. 1h50m and 20 miles, which is an awful average speed, until you figure I did some BIG hills. Got up one I've only managed once before with very little trouble. WOO HOO! Sort of on plan today. Legitimate substitutions, but enough of them that it kind of feels off. Calories are working out, and I'm going to have the last snack of a small handful of salty stuff (probably goldfish crackers) and a beer soon.

Tomorrow is a rest day, which I need. I need to figure out a food plan. I'll pull something together, since I always do better if I have a plan at all, but expecting deviations due to the chaos of the weekend.

Oh yeah, went to the doc today for my physical, and I'm all good. Going for part 2 with the doc #2 next week, and probably part 3 after that as I enter a new demographic, and therefore am eligible for more diagnostic fun.

Bill I was thinking of starting a pool on how long it'll take Gerbilina to lose it's novelty. Hoping it's a long time!! Love that ho hum!

Personally, I think it is probably harder to sit through a 2 hr telecon than to pedal up a 10% grade hill, but different strokes, eh? :)

Tera I'm liking the way your pain numbers are moving. I'm reading it right I hope.

Robin :high: on your shower success!

And since we're personals lite tonight, :wave: to Chris, Jeanie, davidette, ChinaMaine, Kim, onebyone, Trish, Wendy, Candy, CJ and maryblu tonight.


Anne

After almost 2 months I get to go back to work on monday which is my birthday. I am so glad. I have waited for this for 2 months. Yeah. Still no work on dh.

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did gym; CREDIT moi. Ate OP; CREDIT moi.

Dinner included Garlic Mustard - the invasive weed - which we only have once a year when it's small and tender. They are one step more biting than Mustard Greens. Clearly an acquired taste, but one I've grown to like.

Fun thing was to walk to Trader Jo's during lunch - a big deal because I've been putting it off for a while and needed the nuts and raisins. Always a treat walking through that store. Their California Golden Raisins are my fav.


Robin (RobinW) - kudos for planning for the shower and then following your plan, even past the "baked brie!" I have noted that baked brie is showing up a bunch recently, enough that I can't put it in the rare and unusual category to justify snarfing a bit.

Anne (wndranne) - Good grief, a 1h50m bike ride is some great exercise. Kudos. Yep, a two hour telecon is a pain, except for the joy of modern communications I do it on my computer while I work on something that matters.

I'll join the pool about Gerbilina losing her novelty, LOL. I'm there - she's just an OK substitute for a nice walk.


Tera (twilit tera) - Good news about the heal lift; good because every small step seems like moving forward, even if just an experiment.

Kudos for "NOT eating out of frustration." That's a big one. Beck has been useful to me for making me aware of the feelings that go along with eating. When I feel frustration, it does work to take a break and come back with a clearer head. In the past, that break always included food. Now it works to just do something else.


Chris (angelmomma210) - Yay for going back to work - hope your kids remember you.

Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.
...
Every time I resist eating something I'm not supposed to have, I strengthen my resistance muscle - which will make it easier and easier and easier to resist in the future. ...

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 99

Hello Coaches

This is my first Saturday truly off. I have NO CLASSES next week. I am really done. Wow. Everything I make from here on in is gravy, or commercial work. What a weird feeling.

I am heading in to the school today though. I want to take my big print down, repair the 4 small tears and put it away for my grad review meeting on Tuesday. We're selecting from my work and from another classmates as to what piece or two go into the grad show in the school's main gallery. My big print is already wider than any other piece and wider than the space I am allotted. But there's give and take so it's possible.

The farmers' markets start this weekend. I am heading out to the Ottawa Market tomorrow, if it's a sunny day that is, and I am going to begin my next Big Project: painting portraits of the local growers. I'm going to start with this great image of the market manager, Linda, I took last year. I need to build a body of work and eventually, when I am eligible, I want to apply for a city grant and I need work to back it up. And so, what's really happening is I am shifting into another phase. I need to see if I can make my schoolin' pay off.

well, 266.6 today. I think the other thing I'll do this weekend is consume my Structure House book. I was trying to follow this foodplan and I've decided it's not for me. It smacks of being too extreme. well, I think it is too extreme and it triggers me to stay the same somehow. The plan is starve one day (calories below 500) and then the next day eat what you want up to "your" upper limit (there's a calculator to use) 2300-2600 sort of but if you go way over, like I was doing 3300-3600 "it's okay". So you undereat one day overeat the next. It got rid of the water weight like crazy but did nothing else for me really. I'm still wishing:genie: for the magical quick weight loss genie to just take it away. I still want to lose 40lbs for grad. I still want to be a muscle-y hard body. I still want this big tummy to go away.

I think I feel like "I have an extreme weight problem therefore I need to take extreme measures." I have some thinking errors precipitated by a panic to lsoe weight already and a fear that I am simply incapable. I need to work on these attitudes and I need to cultivate some acceptance of what it really takes to do this. Can anyone recommend any books I could read about people who have lost weight and kept it off? I need stories of those who have been there-done that. I need lots of those stories.

And if you've read this far (thanks) two other things are going on. The landlords came and replaced our front door (it didn't need replacing aesthetically speaking, but energy-wise the new one fits way better-landlords pay the heat here) and we were told all the windows will be replaced this year. They've been slowly at it all over the neighbourhood, mostly replacing the windows after tenants move out but now I guess they are just doing it. we had 24hrs notice about the door. I had to shift 3 rubbermaid bins and a shelf out of the work area. This will give you a clue as to what I will have to do in other rooms. So, de-cluttering is now a major priority. I've never been successful at doing it either, just like permanent weight loss. I just sort of shift it all around and it ends up back. I need a real solution here.

And I had a lunch visit with my sister yesterday. Two things: my other sister is selling her house and moving to Key West ASAP as soon as her house is sold and so she wants to relocate my mother ASAP to here, to Ottawa in a high end care facility that has independent living-my mother wants a reg apartment-but there is really no conflict amongst my siblings, or me, with these plans. What they, my brother and sister, want me to do is meet with everyone, all the siblings should get together to be in on the discussions about our mother's future and to let the controlling sibling, the one who's moving, know that there are other's involved here.

I'll tell you coaches, I am NOT interested in being part of a showdown or a "lets put her in her place" type of scenario. I don't see what the problem is here. My mother wants to move. That's usually the problem... and it isn't. There is money to cover the costs of a seniors residence, even a high end one, and my Key West sister has power of attorney to do anything she wants and the means to get it done if we rebel and don't help. After being left out of the loop for over a year is this the way I want to return? Uh, I don't think so. I, sadly, suspect the only reason there would be continuing contact between my local sister and brother is to have me add emotional weight to try to get my Key West sister to... what? Change? Be more inclusive? Hello? Do they not know who she is? Supposedly my brother is calling this meeting and he's going to have to talk to me on the phone. I won't respond to an email. I'm :mad: and hurt. I don't want to make it worse. I was just coming to peace with it all.:( OTOH I am happy my mother is coming to town. It'll be good to have her in my life again. I look forward to it.

Thanks for reading. I had to get it out... Have a great Saturday.

onebyone Check out Thin For Life by Anne Fletcher. Lots of stories of weight loss masters, who lost and kept it off and the types of things they did.

Also, go hang out in the Maintainer's section of this forum. Lots of success stories there, available interactively no less.

Also, check out CNN's Fit Nation special at http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2008/fit.nation/

See you tonight.

Anne

WI-up .5 lbs Beck – Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op for calories, did drink an extra half glass of wine than planned. Exercise – op (no hand weights today). In the Core Workout I’m doing on MFC (wii game), they’ve added in a new exercise that has been really tough for me to get used to. They call it a Lunge-Squat Combination. Every time it comes up on the screen, I get all whine-y. I do 16 of each (both lunge and squat!) for each leg. By the last set of 8, my thighs are burning! But for two weeks in a row my hip and thigh measurements have dropped, probably due to that one exercise. I found I don’t hate it as much now! :lol:

Fatigue: 1.2 (1=Feels great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). Last week I was having fatigue the day I used the hand weights, and the day after. This week (both Wed and today), I only had the fatigue the same day. The day after I feel great. :yay: I have to travel on business next week, so I probably will not use the hand weights, after Monday. But, I’m hoping fatigue is non-existent. :crossed:

one by one You’ve finished the print - :yay: It’s huge! :bravo: for being done with school – what a good feeling that must be! Well now that schools over, I guess it’s not surprising that other issues are going to seem more pressing. Would it make sense to take a deep breath over the next couple of weeks and really think about what your priorities are (not your brother’s, your landlord’s or your sister’s)? I’m a fan of lists, because it helps me think through things rather than just reacting. But I think the process of thinking and prioritizing is more important than the method… If you think and prioritize, it’ll all be more manageable for you.

Anne Credit for running Thursday when you were tired! Mommy spa – how cute! :woohoo: for the great Friday bike ride. And credit for reasonable substitutions. Thanks for the book recommendation. I have to drive to NJ and back next week on business and I wanted to get a couple of audio books for the ride. I think I’ll get Fit for Life, and a David Sedaris book. I’m sure I’ll get verklempt hearing Fit for Life, and Sedaris will be a good antidote. :)

Bill So the Gerbilina is a rainy day substitute for walking – brilliant! And food op both Thurs and Fri – credit for ho hum! And you got a nice walk in Friday – wasn’t it gorgeous yesterday? How did you make yourself walk back to work, once you had escaped for lunch?

Tera :yay: for weight being down and pain being a bit down too! Credit for doing all the things that make you healthy – counting calories, vitamins, etc! It’s hard to believe that no one else noticed the spinal curve and tilt of your hips. You have hip pain, you think any doctor would look for alignment issues. Grrrrr… At least you have someone paying attention now! :woohoo:

Robin Credit for being op especially when confronted with baked brie! Just as I was typing your personal a loon started calling – loudly. I think they want me to tell you ‘congrats’. :lol:

angelmomma :woohoo: for going back to work Monday! :crossed: for dh.

Just a quick check in...

WI: -1 NEW LOW
Pain: 0/1/4 (OMG)
Activity: 2

Credits: :swim: :yay:, calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, choosing 2 healthier dessert options (the first was unavailable and the second I made from scratch) :yay::yay:

Just saying hello,my doggie died after the surgery was over and I am just feeling very sad.They are forcing me to go to work on Monday to a stupid desk/sedentary job.I get an MRI Wed of my knee and it still hurts.Eating is all over the place,from eating nothing until I start to get dizzy and shaky to just eating pure sugar.Wendy

Exercise – way off plan. I’d planned to do 2+ hours of yard work, but after 20 mins I went to bed for the rest of the day. It felt like I’d eaten gluten, digestion unsettled, no option but to sleep. We reviewed everything I’d eaten and no gluten. I did take a garlic pill for the first time this AM to ward off ticks while doing yard work. Almost immediately after taking a pill I started feeling queezy, got a headache, runny nose, etc. I went out and did 20 mins of yard work and had to go right to bed for the rest of the day. I just googled ‘reaction to garlic pill’ and it turns out some folks do have allergic reactions to garlic. Plus it lowers thyroid levels. So, not a good idea for me to take garlic, lesson learned. Oh well…

Fatigue: 3.7 (1=Feels great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

Didn’t weigh in today. Beck – Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op. I replaced my snack with a dish of white rice to settle my stomach. Our dinner is a digestion-friendly chicken, rice and green beans.

Tera :yay: new low! And your pain is so low [relative to what it’s been for as long as I can remember]. You went swimming – counted calories – making dessert – credit!! I hope you are really enjoying what sounds like a great day!

Wendylan I’m terribly sorry for the loss of your dog. :hug: My thoughts are with you and your family… I’m also sorry about the job, knee pain and your eating. Take care.

:wave: had a good day, made it to the gym and got a good workout in.

100% all the way.

Didnt get anything except deviled eggs done today. I should be able to sneak in a pot of soup in tomorrow after the festivities.

Have a nice evening everyone.

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Happy Mother's Day to all you guy with kids, including furbabies.

Took my first bike ride of the season - a good start; CREDIT moi. Rode over to a park having an open house affair where they were giving out small FREE apples. Now that's the sort of FREE I need to encounter more often.

Exercise was helping DW plant a tree - a liftable tree; CREDIT moi. Fortunately, I've worked up my patience setting up the Christmas tree over the years so I was ready for, "needs to tilt back some more," "no, I think it should go six inches this way," and "you're right, it does tilt left, maybe rotate 90 degrees." All's well that ends well.


onebyone - You've got several big things to tackle at once; of course it can feel overwhelming.

First, Congrats again for finishing your three year Arts program. It's a big deal to plan and execute that, despite the normal Sabotaging Thoughts to just chuck it all when it became impossibly tough. Now, it's inspiring to hear you casually state that you're off to make your "commercial" stuff to sell at the farmers' markets. Yep, it's not just commercial, it's professional stuff.

And Kudos for jumping through the hoops to meet up with your sister. Sending you support to continue doing that, despite the hurt and other deep feelings. I've known that sort of stuff in my family's history, and the only solution with family is to just keep going forward. There isn't a good way for other family to make up for pain they've caused in the past - in fact, little likelihood they will ever recognize that the actions they took in their pain were hurtful to you. There's gain for you to talk it out as much as necessary with sympathetic friends, including here, and going to the family meeting to be a stabilizing force. You demonstrate that you are part of the family and that you are bigger than their actions.

The suggestion by Anne (wndranne) to mine the stories over in the Maintenance corner is a good one. Here's the link to the Sticky thread with introductions: Sticky: Welcome / Please Introduce Yourself! (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=168)

You've got what it takes to pull yourself forward; you've done so in the past. I wish for you that you can feel your own worth as you find your path.


Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for gym and "100% all the way." Deviled eggs lure me to want more deviled eggs; I gotta serve myself and make the platter scarce for rational eating.

Anne (wndranne) - Speaking of books, are you tempted by the bigger Kindle just released by Amazon?

Tera (twilit tera) - Congrats on the new low; love that loss by dribble, dribble, dribble.

Kudos for the dessert choices. And Kudos for, presumably, wearing your new heal lift and new shoes.


Chris (angelmomma210) - Waving. Sending special thoughts on Mother's Day.

ChinaMaine - Ouch for the fatigue; Double Ouch that it came from an attempt to do good for yourself with a garlic pill. Who'd have thunk.

Kudos for doing those core exercises. Yay for "thighs are burning." Methinks improvement in my core is essential for that overall feeling of healthy.

Good luck on your travels next week.


Wendy (Wendylan) - Sending supportive thoughts for the loss of your dog, especially as you feel the loss today on Mother's Day.

Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.
. . .Every time I eat something I'm not supposed to eat, I strengthen my giving in muscle - which makes it more likely that I'll give in the next time ... and the next ... and the next. . . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 99

WI: none (mom’s still asleep where the scale is)
Pain: 0/2/6
Activity: 3

Credits: counting calories :yay:, taking vitamins :yay:, splitting small order of onion rings after looking at the nutrition table, even though it was technically within my budget :yay:

Today is mother’s day and sure to be fraught with temptation. First, I’m making breakfast for her, then I’m cooking up a spaghetti dinner, and finally, my aunt asked if she could bring dessert and remembering that Mom’s favorite was spice cake with coffee frosting, that’s what I asked her for.

I’m going to track everything vigorously and use lots of portion control. I am going to be SO on plan today!

Wendy: I am sorry to hear about your loss.

ChinaMaine: Yikes about your reaction to garlic!

Robin: :yay: for 100% all the way!

Bill: Hooray for FREE apples!

And yes, I am wearing the new shoes still. I hardly think about it these days.

Good Morning

Happy Mother's Day to All our Beautiful Moms!

I was thinking during my shower, that we (our family) needs to shift the mothers day celebrations away from food. So we are going to skip the lunch, go for a walk at the park, then off to see the "Wolverine" movie :lol:

Bill~ Big Kudos for being the good hubby and not rolling your eyes or huffing when the Mrs wants it moved 2 inches to the left. :lol:

onebyone~ I dont think I can say it any better than Bill did. " You demonstrate that you are part of the family and that you are bigger than their actions." :hug:

Tera~ spice cake with coffee flavoured frosting :eek: That just sounds sooooooooooooooooooooo good :drool: Sending you positive thoughts to get thru the day on plan!

ChinaMaine~ Give yourself credit for attempting to get some exercise. I had no idea folks would get reactions like that to a garlic pill.

Anne~ Yeah for an awesome bike ride! And tackling that hill!

Have an awesome day everyone!

Coaches/Buddies Sorry I didn't make it back last night. DH and I went out for our first date in a couple years. Dinner and a movie. A planned indulgence, and I had fun and enjoyed myself. Up only 0.4 pounds this morning. Looking good.

I ran this morning, and it was very nice. I planned 3.5 miles, but a dog came to chase me at 3.25, so I just called it a day. It's getting hot here! DH has taken the kids to the Desert Museum for the morning so I can enjoy a peaceful Mother's day.

I had a small unplanned indulgence as a result, dipping into DH's Pop Tart stash, but I'm all done with that. I think I'm going to go grocery shopping, alone (happy dance), and then see if I can get my aerobars put on my bike for my race in a couple weeks. But first, coffee. Now done....mmm :coffee2:

Chris I'm so glad to hear you get to get back to work. Must be such a relief to you.

Bill Garlic mustard. Sounds a bit pungent. Glad you enjoyed it!

Biking for apples. I like that. Sounds like you made DW's day on the tree thing. I like that, too!

I'm actually happy with the smaller Kindle, since one of my main reasons for getting it was portability. If it got much bigger, it'd be a thing to deal with on its own, instead of a doodad that fits into a midsize purse or carry on.

Do you find Trader Joe's a danger zone? I almost never go because I have real issues in the chocolate isle. Healthy chocolate is good, right??

onebyone :celebrate: your huge accomplishment! Good job on identifying your sabotaging thoughts about extreme measures. It really, no kidding, is one small, sometimes tough, step at a time. Good luck with decluttering. Also one small step at a time. Sorry about the family drama, while at the same time, I'm happy you are talking to them again.

ChinaMaine Nice work on the lunge-squat combo. Those sound extra extra tough, to quote Tasha from the Backyardigans. Sounds great that you found a trigger/cause for your fatigue and can make some modifications. Hope your NJ trip goes well.

So sorry about the incident with the Garlic pill. Perhaps it used gluten as a stabilizer as well? Another lesson learned the hard way. :hug:

Tera Serious :high: on that Saturday pain report! Something's working...

You are going to be SO on plan today. And so am I. At least post-Pop Tarts. :cool:

Wendy I'm so sorry about your dog. We lost one last year too, and I'm still sad about it. Do the best you can to take care of yourself, and then you'll pull it together when you are ready.

Robin Cheers for your good day. Deviled eggs are well-named in my opinion. Enjoy your movie today!

Thanks everyone for the Mother's Day wishes! I'll swing by tonight to keep myself accountable, although I'm feeling that this morning's food diversion was just enough, and not the beginning of the fall. A good feeling.

Anne

Wendy...sorry about your dog...prayer are on the way for you.

Excited about tomorrow..waiting to see my kids. Wish me luck.

Coaches/Buddies It's been a good day so far today. I'm hungry and will probably eat something else before bed, which puts me a bit over, but as long as I don't go crazy, it's all good. So I won't be going crazy tonight. 100 to 200 calories.

Chris Good luck tomorrow!

Anne

Bill, I was reading one of my inspirational books tonight. Something struck me and I thought I would share it with you, because you and I seem to have the same view on free food.

Free food isnt free.
We pay for it in extra fat and calories.

...was one of those lightbulb moments :lol:

wendylan So sorry to hear about your dog. I know he had a good life and will be really missed. It's the best we can do for our animal friends is to really love them. You and your dog were lucky to have found each other. Big :hug: to you and your family.

angelmomma210 Very glad to read you are off to work in the morning and also that DH's case is being investigated. Boy the wheels turn slowly eh?
I hope you have a great day.

wndranne You sound like you had a great start to your day... I hope it's continued to be great. Thanks for the tip about the maintainers' threads here on 3FC. I found one specifically about Thin For Life including detailed posts about the 12 keys. Very interesting and lots and lots to read. I'm trying to re-program this brain of mine. Speaking of which, what was the name of the book about the brain again? Is it Brain Rules? Thanks for your help.

RobinW Glad to hear about all your recent success and all the shifts and changes you are making in your life. I feel I am traveling backwards these days, but I know it's temporary. You help me realize I can change direction when I put my mind to it. thanks.

twilit tera :yay: for being so on-plan! Hope you had a pleasant day today!

BillBlueEyes Thanks so much for the solid comments. Very thoughtful and helpful. I must admit I was totally unaware of how much good stuff there is over in the maintainers section of this board. Very helpful and much to think about with that stuff. And yes you are right commercial=professional. Interesting shift in tone from one word to the next. Kudos for getting the bike out.

ChinaMaine Sorry to hear of your reaction to the garlic capsule and the ensuing fatigue. I hope you had a better day today.:hug:

I spent most of the day on the couch. I did get a bit of walk to the mall in and checked out some spring tops but that was the most exciting thing today. My eating was not great. And DH and I both bought too much crap to the cash at the mall and therefore brought it home. Seems I am in the " I'm going to be on a diet soon so I want to have X and X and X before I do that" mood. Oh oh. I think I need to start the Beck book again but I don't feel ready for it. I have been reading The Structure House book and it stresses being ready. I think I'll be ready soon because I can't really tolerate this behaviour in me very long anymore AND the scale is climbing and I can't tolerate it to go up too much more. My body and my jeans are feeling it.

Tomorrow I have a decision to give about working in a summer position as a children's classroom technician at the school. 5 days a week/ 8-5 / $10.50 an hr. I am not keen to do it but the sure thing money part is enticing me. the trade off is I won't be making my own art work those weeks and I won't be selling my own work at the markets. My way, the market way, is an unknown amt of $ coming in. It continues my direction of being a self supporting artist. the other, the tech job, takes me away from that. I'm really not interested in doing that job either. I'd be doing it solely for the money. I think I'll turn it down. I need to stay focused on my own work no matter what. I need to have faith. Ugh.:goodluck: to me with that.
Have a good night folks.

onebyoneThe three books I've read recently about cognitive functioning are :

How We Decide (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0618620117), by Jonah Lehrer (http://www.jonahlehrer.com/books)

Brain Rules (http://www.amazon.com/Brain-Rules-Principles-Surviving-Thriving/dp/0979777747/ref=ed_oe_p) by John Medina (http://www.brainrules.net/).

The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetite (http://www.amazon.com/End-Overeating-Insatiable-American-Appetite/dp/1605297852/ref=ed_oe_h) by David Kessler. This one is specific to eating issues, and I think it pretty much screams for us to use something like BDS. I'll get to a review eventually, but I really liked it.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Kept eating on plan even with both kids and their SO's here for Mother's Day dinner. The kids and I went to Whole Foods to select dinner: herbed chicken, butternut squash with cranberries, green beans with red peppers, broccoli with smoked bacon, and eggplant in tomatoes. Plus a platter of pickled onions, mushrooms, and whatevers. I prepared ahead of time (CREDIT moi) the fresh fruit I'd bought on Saturday (CREDIT moi): pineapple, strawberries, and kiwi. It's a victory to steer the kids away from a traditional gloppy dessert that would be hard for DW to turn down on Mother's Day.

Made my curried zucchini for lunches this week, CREDIT moi. Was tickled when DD asked to take a pint home with her - she was here last time I made it, took some, and made a couple of dinners by adding brown rice. There's just something special about snarfing food from mon and dad's.


onebyone - Ouch for that "I'm going to be on a diet soon" mood. Kudos for recognizing it and its accompanying feelings so you can shift back into on-plan.

Good luck making your decision on the classroom job for the summer - it's easy to see the dilemma.


Robin (RobinW) - Amazing isn't it that all our celebrations focus on food; Kudos for moving Mother's Day away from that.

Thanks for, "Free food isnt free. We pay for it in extra fat and calories." I'll chant that next trip through Whole Foods.


Anne (wndranne) - Yeah for dinner and a movie away from the kids. Once you remember that you know how to do that, perhaps it can happen on a regular basis.

Yep, "Healthy chocolate is good." And Yep, that was my mantra when I'd eat a third of the monster size dark chocolate bars, but I suspect you meant in moderation, LOL.

Trader Jo's isn't a danger zone for me for some reason; I pretty much stick to nuts and dried fruits. Except for their d*rn lunch time FREE sample, which I've long ago accepted into my plan on my infrequent one hour (round trip) walks to get there. It's always new or unusual. Last time was frozen strawberry shortcake - a pretty good bang for the buck in sample size. Once I get over my FREE food issue at Whole Foods, I may choose to tackle this one just to free the mind.


Tera (twilit tera) - Yay for "I am going to be SO on plan today!"

And Kudos for splitting the small onion rings. I used to think those were a vegetable, LOL. Spice cake is my favorite also.


Chris (angelmomma210) - Bus driving day!! Have good trips.

Wendy (Wendylan) - Waving. Thinking about your dog. Sending supportive thoughts. Hope all goes well with your light duty shift at work today.

Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.
. . .If I eat this unplanned food, I'll get momentary pleasure, but then I'll definitely feel bad afterward. It's not worth it! . . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 99

WI-down .5 lbs to New Low! Beck – Read my cards, made a plan. Food – op, sort-of. Since I wasn’t feeling well on Sat, I moved my extra 300 calories I usually use then to Sunday. We went to see Star Trek – what fun! I had buttered popcorn (half a small bag). I enjoyed it in the moment, made sure it was op, but had second thoughts later when both DH and I felt a bit off afterwards. Oh well… Exercise – off-plan. I was still very tired from the garlic fiasco. I had no mental symptoms, just was physically tired. So my fatigue rating is fairly low. Fatigue: 2.2 (1=Feels great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

Robin :bravo: for 100% op! Deviled eggs, yum – do you make those for snacks during the week? And I take it you faced down the baked brie, and emerged triumphant?

Bill :lol: at planting tree with the ‘helpful’ comments of DW. I blush knowing I’d probably do exactly the same thing. :) Sounds like you had a wonderful (and healthy) Mother’s Day. Hooray!

Tera Sorry your pain was back up yesterday. But credit for calorie counting, and for being able to enjoy onion rings op!

Anne Credit for running! Grrr for dog owners who leave their dogs off-leash... Ouch for pop tarts, but kudos for a graceful recovery. Sounds like your hitting on all cylinders this week. I wasn’t able to get Thin for Life on audio book – darn! I need to get back on track mentally. I’m going through the motions, but just am not as motivated as I had been. Since I couldn’t get Thin for Life, I’ve gotten a different one, so :crossed: No the pills are completely gluten-free, I checked. Something else about the pill really hit me hard. Oh well…

angelmomma Hope your first day back to work was fun!

WI: steady
Pain: 0/2/4
Activity: 3

Credits: counting calories :yay:, LOTS of water :yay:, hiding mom’s gumdrops in the pantry :yay:, limiting portions at breakfast :yay:, going heavy on the salad and light on the pasta and bread :yay:

Mother’s day was a smashing success. French toast breakfast, followed by romance films, followed by family films when my aunt and uncle came over, with spaghetti dinner and, as mentioned before, cake.

I was totally on plan. :angel:

I hope everyone had a wonderful mother’s day!

Robin: :yay: for changing your family’s mother’s day focus. My mom says that when she was a child, the day was spent pampering mom in various ways, cleaning the house top to bottom for her, waiting on her hand and foot. That sounds like a lot more trouble than brunch. Maybe food is a shortcut for a lot of us?

Anne: Fantastic that you got both some “me” time and some “us” time for Mother’s day. Just what every mom needs, right?

:yay: for bouncing back from poptarts!

Onebyone: :yay: for the clarity of vision about the hourly wage vs. mystery $ amount moving you toward your ultimate goal. I was thinking about the financial pressure between you and hubby this morning and was planning to come on here today to say that I think you should avoid the pressure of making more cash now at the expense of cash potential of being a self-supported artist. Reaching that goal is going to take more than you producing your own work; it will take research and a business plan. But it will surely never happen if you are not working on your own art.

Bill: :yay: for celebrating Mother’s Day OP.

ChinaMaine: Glad to hear that you’re recovering from the garlic pill. :yay: for adjusting your calorie budget to stay OP on Mother’s Day. (IMO, redistributing calorie allowances is perfectly legit.)

Thanks for the pain sympathies. I’m thinking about what was happening yesterday that my pain levels rose briefly. It was mainly the chair I was sitting in at Mom’s. Bruce and I went back home to fetch the dinner ingredients I’d forgotten, and picked up a couple of our big soft sofa pillows. Using them over the same reclining lounger, I felt much better.

I am going to be so on plan today!

Hi all! :wave:

Im struggling with some hidden issues that flared up the other day.
All sabotaging thoughts, but kinda cuts to the core...kwim?

A whole lot of ...why am I doing this? Whats the point? etc etc etc.

Ultimately I am doing this for "me".
I just need to focus on that. Hubby and I had our first sabotaging event yesterday. Its spilling over to today as well. He has been so supportive! So helpful! Yesterday brought out ...Im not sure? He wants me to succeed, and helps at every turn. Then yesterday we had a showdown over something he thought he was doing "for me". Taking me to a restaurant that doesnt have a lick of healthy choices isn't doing something for me.

I dont know...Im in a bit of a funk today. I'll snap out of it.

Thanks for being here chickies and rooster :D

I drove from Maine to NJ today – 7.5 hours. I’m not a huge fan of long drives and I really don’t like driving in NJ, but overall was a very good day. No weigh-in today. Beck – Read my cards, made a mental plan and did pretty well. Food – 200 calories below a typical weekday, so I count that as a huge success. I packed cold chicken, and raw green beans for lunch, plus apple plus peanut butter for my snack. That just left me with small fries as my fast food indulgence as well as a Starbucks latte mid-day. I had planned to exercise this AM as I would normally, but I woke really tired again, so just did a slow 20 min walk. Fatigue: 2.0 (1=Feels great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

I’ve been de-motivated since I went off-plan about 9 days ago. It’s amazing how exercising the giving-in muscle really throws me off my game. I’m also getting to that dangerous 3 – 4 month anniversary when I frequently lose motivation when dieting. I decided to use my long drive to try and re-motivate myself. I hoped to get Thin for Life that Anne recommended, but they don’t have that on audible.com.

Instead I got this book called ‘Rethinking Thin’ by Gina Kolata. It’s definitely not motivating. But it is thought-provoking. It’s basically one person’s literature review of diet research over the last 50-60 years. The first half of the book goes over the history of ideal body image and diet fads from the mid-1800s until now. I found this section of the book fascinating, essentially that ‘everything old is new again’. The same diets we hear about now: calorie counting, low protein, low carb and crazy diets like all-grapefruit, all-liquid etc. have all been around for over 100 years. They surface, become a fad, get replaced by another diet, re-surface, become a fad, and so on through the centuries. Another interesting historical tidbit is that society and the medical profession has felt (for just as long) that people are obese because of mental health issues and/or their lack of will power. Among other things, Kolata argues based on diet research that the diet fads, and the professionals view of the obese, are just plain wrong. Kolata goes into excrutiating detail describing study after study, with name after name of authors and co-authors. I love experimental research and the circuitous path it can take you down. So I'm finding the book fascinating even when I don’t agree with her conclusions. But I’ll need to listen to the research chapters again in order to really internalize it. But she seems to be claiming that the data indicates that long-term weight loss may be out of reach of most dieters. (BTW: I have another chapter to listen to, so the final conclusion may be different.) As I said, not intrinsically motivating. But I’ve really enjoyed it so far anyway.

Anne - I know you follow the research on folks who've lost a lot of weight, and maintained their losses long-term. I don't believe Kolata discusses this research at all. Do you know of any books that cover this research?

one by one You should take the time you need – getting done with school is a big deal. I wish you well in making reasonable choices while you decompress and get ready for your next steps.

Tera :yay: for your lower pain level! Totally op and making your Mom’s Mom’s Day wonderful. :woohoo: I agree, I adjust calories pretty flexibly now. If I’m bad, then I adjust my planned maximum down in following days. Conversely, if I use less calories than I'd planned, then I’ll consider adjusting the planned max up on a following day if I have a real desire to do something good or fun. And I really enjoyed having popcorn at the movies like a ‘real’ person. :D Glad the pillow helped you in your Mom’s chair.

Robin Yikes – it’s so hard to know how to be ‘supportive’ isn’t it? :hug: I understand how you each feel… :crossed: that you get out of your funk soon.

Coaches/Buddies I'm exhausted. The lack of sleeping is catching up with me. I sat down for a minute after DH took the kids away this morning and woke up 2.5 hrs later, pool closed and seriously late for work. Sigh. Other than that, I've been on plan today. I'm hoping to get to bed by 8:30 tonight. I've got 1h20m to do that in.

Run tomorrow and trying to make up a little time/work that I missed out on today.

RobinW Free food is sure expensive isn't it!

Sorry to hear about your sabotaging thoughts and the dinner thing with your hubby. I'm glad you identified it though, so you can work on the issues. Do you have an ARC? Or perhaps the "why are you doing this" thinking could prompt you to revisit and make a new list or add to the old one.

onebyone I think you made the right decision. I love the work you do, and it seems good to put your talents to work for you. The uncertain money is very tough right now, but you'll get there. Make sure you post (or PM) a link to anything you're doing on-line.

Maybe you aren't ready for the whole Beck plan, but can you do one thing? Then when you are comfortable with that do one more. No need to do everything in a day, and small steps will get you there.

Bill I got zucchini at the store Sunday. I may have to curry it. Mmmm.

Sounds like Mother's Day was a big hit all around!

ChinaMaine Hurray for the new low! Love those. DH & I saw Star Trek too, and we also enjoyed it.

What did you pick up instead of TfL? Let us know if it is good.

Tera I'm still so happy your pain levels look good. Glad you identified a trigger for that and could fix it. Wishing you continued success with that! Sounds like you had a great Mother's Day as well with your mom.

Catch you all tomorrow. Send sleepy vibes. Well, if you are reading this tonight--send :coffee2: tomorrow.

Anne

ChinaMaine Cross post! Congratulations. You hit one of my triggers, so you score a :soap:.

The Maintainers had a lot to say about the Kolata book. Look here (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=220). Bear in mind their perspective is that of people who are doing what Kolata says can't "realistically" be done. I did not read the book.

Statistics on maintenance are tough, and the 5% number gets thrown around a lot. Almost weight loss gospel. But the studies I've read, recent ones, don't support it. When you look at a medical definition of maintenance, losing 10% of your weight and keeping it off, the stats are still not great, but are much better. I don't have a reference for you on that anymore, unfortunately, but I did grab the original peer-reviewed paper from the scientific literature at one point because I was intrigued. Again, not the fantasy going from fat to thin, sweats to bikini body or anything, but people who have made a real, measurable difference in their health and their life. I want to say it was like 30%, but memory fails.

So if you accept that people are losing weight and keeping it off, you can choose to take the attitude that, since people are doing it, what can I learn about the successful ones? This is opposed to the attitude that most people don't maintain weight loss, so why bother--the Kolata way? There are things you can do to improve your odds. Look up the National Weight Control Registry. What do the successful Maintainers do? They exercise regularly, they manage what they eat, they weigh themselves regularly, they are committed to a true lifestyle change and not a short-term diet. Thin for Life summarizes what these NWCR people do (and I am one) and another group of "Masters". They do the same things as the NWCR group. They use positive self-talk, like the kinds of things we learn from Beck, and they don't kid themselves about what they are doing, or let sabotaging thoughts derail everything.

So that's my take. Yes, it's hard. Yes, most people don't "succeed" long term. It's not fair. Too bad. I'm going to. I've been to morbid obesity. I am NOT going back. I have NO CHOICE. I am willing to do what is necessary. The alternative is unthinkable.

My short list of must-reads:

Thin for Life by Anne Fletcher (for successful maintainer's strategies). This is the book you are looking for.

Volumetrics by Barbara Roll (for how to eat to stay physically satiated)
Mindless Eating by Brian Wansink (for what your environment is doing to you)
Break Through Your Set Point by George Blackburn (for a general plan to get your diet/lifestyle together)
Beck Diet Solution (or Complete Beck Diet for Life) by Judith Beck (for a plan to get your head together)
The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetite by David Kessler (for insights into why your head is telling you to do stupid eating behavior).

This list doesn't include a reference for exercise, but I like New Rules of Lifting for Women by Lou Schuler (more rigorous) or Strong Women Stay Slim by Miriam Nelson (more basic) for strength training. Other than Volumetrics (for simply staying full) I think different ways of eating work for different people, low carb, low fat, low cal, vegetarianism, gluten free and on and on. I personally believe that the style in Eat, Drink and Be Healthy by Walter Willett is a really good way to go for most people. I think the research backs it up for overall health, although I'd never tell anybody to stop doing what works for them.

Good luck with it.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - At gym I tried to concentrate on the execution of my exercises to preempt the thoughts of feeling the vapors and wishing to quit. That helped. CREDIT moi.

Incremented the number of months on my journey and months in maintenance. CREDIT moi. Since tracking the scale numbers no longer gives that highly motivating feedback of watching the loses, I try to get my feedback from watching those numbers grow. One goal is to make it to five years - the number the Weight Loss Registry seems to use a standard for those who are long term maintainers. Another goal is ten years from a study that showed no difference in mortality rates between forever exercisers and ten year exercisers. It's a reassuring thought that if I make it past ten years that I've recuperated from the years of couch potato-ing. My rational thinking doesn't really believe that, but it's a motivator for me anyway.


Robin (RobinW) - Good morning, er, Cock-a-doodle-do, LOL.

Ouch for the Sabotaging Thoughts; Kudos for recognizing them to bring on the strategies to fight back. And Kudos for remaining sane while helping DH to see which restaurants work for you. It's hard to get it if you're not formerly obese.


Anne (wndranne) - Yay for sleep, however inconveniently it arrives.

Thanks for your soapbox including short list of must reads. It's useful for me to be reminded that the 5% number isn't gospel. Even though it feels special to be in such a small group, it serves as a built in excuse for any drift from the goal. I have Thin for Life by Anne Fletcher on my stack; maybe it needs to be shuffled toward the top.


Tera (twilit tera) - Neat that your pain level was moderate on Mother's Day; Kudos for pulling off such a nice day for your mom. (I'd be suspicious of her memories of the old mother's day, LOL.)

Can't go wrong with these solid strategies, "limiting portions at breakfast, going heavy on the salad and light on the pasta and bread."


Chris (angelmomma210) - Waving. Thought of you driving yesterday.

ChinaMaine - Congrats for surviving the 7.5 hour drive to NJ. Gotta love driving by the Newark airport where the jumbo jets look like they almost hit the car.

Kudos for bringing a head tweaking audio book for the drive and for staying OP in a situation that calls for recreational eating. Thanks for the mini review of ‘Rethinking Thin’ by Gina Kolata; perhaps I don't need to read that one right away.


Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.
. . .If I eat this unplanned food, I'll get momentary pleasure, but then I'll definitely feel bad afterward. It's not worth it! . . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 100

WI: -1 NEW LOW
Pain: 0/1/5
Activity Level: 3

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, C appointment :yay:, :swim: :yay:, water drinking :yay:

I have completed all work in 3 out of 4 classes. All that remains is my biology finals (comprehensive "book" test and lab practical). Both have to be taken in the testing center on campus by Thursday.

I am going to be so on plan today!

Robin: Sad to hear that hidden issues resulted in a confrontation with hubby. :( I hate those. They really do just want to be helpful. He probably had no idea how bad their menu would be!

Oo! I've an idea for next time he wants to take you out, if you're interested! You could make a list of local restaurants where you know you can find diet-wise selections. Give it to him for future reference. As long as he picks one of the restaurants on that list he'll be safe and the location will still come as a surprise!

Anne: Ouch at dozing off unexpectedly.

I am totallly bookmarking your appendice to ChinaMaine. I don't know if I'll read every book on your list, but I can definitely see the value in doing so. In fact, I'm going to email that list to my aunt. She could benefit from it too!

Bill: :yay: for pushing through your exercises! :yay: for counting up the days, since you're no longer counting down the pounds!

I've heard the same statistics, and also the statistics on how long it takes to recover from being a smoker. The body is truly amazing. Scientists now estimate that it takes 7-10 years to completely replace most of the cells in your body. (The possible exception being neurons.) Whatever the precise time frame, it is certainly true that we are constantly regenerating ourselves.

So 10 years from now, the body you have will have never been obese!

Good Morning

Tera~ Thanks for the idea! I should do that....just so we know where we can go. At least until things are under control

.....just a quickie this morning.

Did my workout at 7am this morning :eek: I feel better for it, but getting up at 6 for this night owl is rough! Thankfully the sun was shining ...I dont know how its going to work in the winter when its cold and dark.

Food yesterday was "ok" did a controlled binge if you want to call it that. 2 donuts, and peanuts. Then I was full all night, came home from an event, and had a toasted cheese sandwich. All off plan.

But Im ok today. Talking to my PT this morning helped quite a bit. Working out in the morning seems to help with eating as well. "I just spent an hour working my butt off, Im not going to screw it up with this" kwim?

Ok, Im off. Busy day ahead of me.

Have a great day everyone, I'll try to get back later tonight.

Hi Coaches

I had a good day today. We finally got to the movies. Our movie day has been postponed for two weeks due to final projects but now that I am free :carrot: we made it to see Star Trek. I loved it. They got it right. Phew.

I also had my review of all my artwork today at grad review. My big bus strike print will be in the grad show and my big handmade book will be in it too. So I am very happy with that. And my ceramic work and my jester prints may make it into the other city gallery where we show simultaneously and everything's for sale. It's all just happening and it's good.

DH and I are now starting to plan the next phase of our life which includes a move out of town. It is very expensive here and our priority is to cut expenses, pay off credit card debt and save for a place of our own. Our rent is $1200. It's a lot. Way too much. I saw an apartment online in this tiny town on the shore of Lake Superior where I have cousins (pop 900) whose rent is $350 for a two bedroom apartment and $300 for a 1 bedroom. For half of what we are paying we could live in the 2 bedroom and I could rent the 1 bedroom for a study/classroom. The drawback to going there are the bears and the cold long winter. An alternate, where the economy has really hit hard is southern Ontario, in the (yum) fruit belt. I saw some 2 bedrooms for $500/month. DH is keener on a warmer town. We're going to head down to that area this weekend and take a look around. we haven't ever really explored there so I am excited. We'll drive to Toronto and stay overnight at his mom's and head out from there in the morning. These areas of interest are 1-3 hours from Toronto. we should be able to visit a few. I am VERY excited. I am VERY happy to be wrapping up school.

Oh and I decided to take the kids tech job. It turns out to be 8 weeks only: July and August and the $ is just so important right now. I can make $3500 in that time and that's a fortune to me right now and it's the right thing to support DH emotionally too. It won't kill me and it won't stop me from making things. Nothing does.

Gotta go. Have a great night!

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Took Gerbilina, my Sole Elliptical, for a walk. CREDIT moi. I do better cardio using the elliptical than I do walking, so it's a good choice even when the weather is OK.

Wandered out to get dinner last night; chose a place that DW is unlikely to want to join me, where you make cafeteria style choices from a steam table. I chose a pork roast and had to choose two sides so I choose two servings of Hubbard Squash. Then, using a technique posted by others here, I immediately put half in a take-out Styrofoam clam, and enjoyed my half. CREDIT moi. Wasn't stellar dining, wasn't stellar calories, but enough of both to be OK. And the walk there and back was pleasant in the cool evening.

Cool enough last night that the tomato plants spent the night on the kitchen floor again. I am so ready for them to go in the ground where they belong.


onebyone - Congrats on the selection of your bus strike for the grad show!!! What a grand finish for your studies.

Kudos for making the decision to teach this summer. And Kudos for planning the next phase of your life with your DH. Hope you find just the right apartment for you guys - near a good bike trail so you can get that bike going again, with good sunlight for your art, a little bit of warmth, and, LOL, few bears in your bird feeders.


Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for that 7am workout; that's impressive for a known "night owl." Oprah's trainer, Bob Green, insists that workouts in the morning are imperative because they raise the body's metabolism for the rest of the day. hmmmmm ... Even though I'm a morning person, I don't buy his argument, and, in his book, he admits there is no research evidence to support his claim, only his own anecdotal observations.

Ouch for your eating diversion. But I do like your Response Card, ""I just spent an hour working my butt off, Im not going to screw it up with this."


Tera (twilit tera) - Congrats on the new low; seems to be happening a lot lately.

Good luck on your biology finals tomorrow. Seems amazing that you've already completed three courses. What's up for you this summer?

Interesting comment connecting the 7-10 year cell replacement with a body that "will have never been obese!" Meg, over in the Maintenance forum, Happy Anniversary Dear Meg (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2739546#post2739546) says that a blood test would always identify her as formerly obese. I would prefer to believe your thought, but I suspect that our bodies retain a preferred ability to store large amounts of fat, and that our normal eating during our maintenance years will be different than if we'd never been obese. Oh Well.


Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.
. . .Either I deprive myself of eating this food today or it's highly likely that I will deprive myself forever of all of the advantages of losing weight. . . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 100

Good Morning

onebyone~ sounds like you'll be closer to me!! I used to live in st. catharines. Didnt like it there, but loved the area. If I could have afforded it I would have lived in Font Hill or Stoney Creek or Niagara on the Lake. Good luck in your apt search! Congratulations on your summer job too!!

Bill~ Kudos for putting 1/2 your dinner away in a take away box right away! Im thinking about buying one of those topsy turvy planters for tomatoes. We have such limited space ....I'll keep you posted.

...I ordered an anti pasto salad from the deli next door that has awesome subs! Wow, was it good! Filled with lots of goodies! Next time tho, I'll have them double the artichoke hearts and skip the olives. Lighten up on the cheese too. But wow, it was good!.

I am very sore this morning! :D Remember my issues last christmas over the massage gift cert. that was given to me? Im actually considering using them! :lol: I hurt that much! :lol: ....maybe :D

Managed to get hubby to come for a walk with me last night. With quite a bit of help from my pt...she knows his twitter username, and nattered at him to get out walking with me :lol3: Now if I could just get him to the gym with me :rolleyes:

Im op, 85%(ish) I should have boxed half that salad yesterday afternoon. Ate my planned snack cheese that I skipped mid afternoon. I ate it late evening when I wasnt hungry (hmmm) Bit of old habits there. I need to pay more atttention to it. But ....a pretty good day otherwise.

Have a great day everyone!

WI: +1 (certainly water retention due to medication)
Pain: 0/0-3/8
Activity: 3

Credits: counting calories :yay:, vitamins :yay:, steering surprise lunch treat toward healthier options :yay:, :running: with buddy and his daughters :yay:

Late in the afternoon something in my hip went pop. This was followed by a lot of pain, and elevated pain levels which continue into today. Fnu. I've got another appointment with C tonight, which I am definitely looking forward to.

Today I must study. a lot.

I'm going to be so on plan today!

Robin: :yay: for getting up so early to take care of yourself! Hopefully it'll be habit before the days get shorter. At your lattitude winter is dark a lot. I remember in Portland, OR, the sun rising after I'd gotten to work and setting long before getting off. To be honest, I kind of miss that. Winter hardly seems to happen down here.

onebyone: How exciting to be seeing your work on display professionally! I really loved that book too. Good luck on the new job and the home hunt.

Bill: :yay: for ellipticling. (like bicycling, only on an elliptical, right?) Sending warm weather wishes your way for the tomatoes. WTG also on the portion control at the restaurant.

This summer I plan to focus on making progress on my mobility issues. I'm going to create the personal healthcare crisis website that I mentioned before, and do some of the prep work on the online comic (character concept sketches, etc.) Lots of physical therapy and exercise to be sure.

I have 5 classes left to complete my Associates. I plan to knock them all out this fall (one of them is PE). After that, it's committment to launching the comic.

I didn't know there was a blood test for "former obesity". It does figure, since the cells we had when we got fat to begin with are replicating themselves and not some skinny person's cells. But I think that the biological disposition towards obesity is there in some of us, whether we actually get fat or not. My cells might not have been fat, but my genes will always be, in a sense.

Roasted Chick Pea recipe (http://www.foodandsugaraddiction.com/recipes/) I tried tonight. Awesome!!!!!!!!

Coaches/Buddies My browser somehow got the downtime stuck in its craw, so I thought the server was still down. Missed you guys yesterday.

Eating has been pretty great the last couple days. Work has been NONSTOP and I actually find that helps. I haven't been sleeping well at all and that interferes with exercise. Plus my riding partner was sick today.

Bill Glad to hear you've conquered the vapors, LOL! I'm sure your gym-mates appreciate that as well. ;) Nice to see your 3y8m there.

Tera Good to see your new low, and relatively good pain numbers again. Good luck on your bio final (assuming you haven't already aced it as I type).

RobinW Nice work on the morning workout. That was quite a switch for me when I went from a night to a morning person.

onebyone Sounds like you made a good decision regarding the temp job. Good luck with the relocation. That sounds huge!

:wave: to everyone else.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - A new Milestone: Finally finished the 2 pound jar of whey protein and opened the new 5 pound jar. CREDIT moi. That matters to me because it was going slow since I stopped eating it when I stopped doing weight stuff a few months back with golf elbow. Was entertaining the Sabotaging Thoughts of "not moving forward" with my weights. And all negative thinking threatens my journey.

Particularly good eating for lunch at work: curried zucchini with leftover Hubbard Squash, herbed chicken leg, and Chinese Kale (Gai Lan) - in addition to my standard 1.9 quart of finger salad. That's seriously better stuff than the pastrami sub with potato chips that was one of my favorites before my journey. CREDIT moi.


Robin (RobinW) - Yay for your "anti pasto salad." And Yay for doubling the artichoke hearts (along with doubling the olives too, LOL.).

Hope you use those massage gift certificates; I remember your angst at the time. But sore muscles top angst in anyone's game.

And thanks for the roasted chick pea recipe; I gotta do those.


Anne (wndranne) - Yay for that good feeling of having earned the paycheck, even at the price of "NONSTOP."

Ouch for not sleeping well. Would seem that interfering with exercise would just exacerbate the sleeping issue; good luck in breaking into those two.


Tera (twilit tera) - Ouch on that hip pop; hope your session with the chiropractor helped it.

Sounds like a busy and productive summer. Do you move this summer also?

Here's Meg's statement:A test for leptin levels. Apparently we reduced obese have permanently lowered leptin levels. There are clinical trials underway to see if injections of leptin can reverse the effects of lowered leptin on metabolism. Unfortunately, I'm too old to qualify -- the ones I checked at Columbia wanted people under the age of 50. :(

Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.
. . .If I want to lose excess weight forever, I need to stick to my plan - no ifs, ands, or buts. . . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 100

My business trip in NJ went well work-wise, pretty good diet-wise. Being celiac lets me say ‘no choice’ to awful corporate lunch and breakfast food. If I wasn’t celiac, I’d have been sorely tempted to eat foods I really don’t need, or want. But when you see a glistening donut, it certainly looks appetizing. I made my own breakfast in the hotel, and brought GF frozen entrees for lunches. So, :bravo: for being celiac. :D My fatigue level the last two days has been good. But since I lead the meetings both Tues and Wed, I’m feeling just a bit of fatigue today… Fatigue: 1.7 (1=Feels great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

They had a treadmill at the hotel, so I did 42 minutes on it Tuesday AM. But Wed, I had to prepare for the meeting in the AM, so didn’t have time. Last night I drove to a friends to stay overnight. So no exercise yesterday, but I’ll try to walk my friend’s puppy over lunch (as long as it doesn’t rain).

Strangely enough, this trip is re-motivating me. So I hope to be back in the groove when I get home for the weekend. I don’t have time for personals now, but will try to catch up later tonight or tomorrow AM. Gotta get to work!

:wave:

Good Morning

Bill~ enjoy the roasted chick peas! Kudos for the great lunch....but I have to ask what a finger salad is?

Anne~ Im still struggling with this switch. I was planning on going this morning, until hubby told me he wasnt going to his meeting. I bailed out...and reasoned with myself that he isnt going, so I dont have to go either. Good excuse right?! No :( So now Im ticked that I didnt go...because I know after Im done with my day today, I will not want to go after supper. Oh well....Meg's quote has been sticking with me all day. "If you want it, you'll find a way. If you don't, you'll find an excuse." Along with guilt. Talk about self sabotage....Im a work in progress :lol:

Tera~ I hope that appointment you were looking forward to helps with your hip pain :( ....I dont miss the dark winters at all. I get a little annoyed when the time comes. But I have issues in the long winter months.

ChinaMaine~ Kudos for feeling like you are remotivated!! Sometimes a getaway will do that. I dont know if Ive mentioned to you before...we have a customer who wrote a cookbook The Super Allergy Cookbook (http://www.thesuperallergycookbook.com) you might find it useful. Its gluten free, nut free, etc.

Today will be a day of sitting hunched over large pieces of vinyl picking little pieces of vinyl off of it :rolleyes: Why? Because I didnt make the customer give me at least 2 weeks notice. Oh well.

Thats my day in a nutshell....so the wind and rain arent even going to be noticed my me today.

Have a great day everyone!

WI: -1 (See? Told you it was water retention.) ;)
Pain: 0/2/7
Activity: 2

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, water :yay:, seeing C :yay:

Pain increase from the day before continued all through yesterday. C told me that my pain is coming from something different, and that's good, because my body is no longer feeling the same strains and it's settling into a new position. I do feel some relief after the adjustment and PT last night.

C had looked over my FitDay printout and said that I should eat less fast food and no artificial sweeteners, not even Sucralose. I agree that fast food should be kept to a minimum, but I'm not giving up my single diet rite with dinner. It sounded to me like a knee-jerk reaction to artificial sweeteners, and after reading on the tests done on it, I'm not convinced that it's a danger to me.

It's a beautiful day outside. Heavy with clouds, cracking with thunder, wind whooshing through trees. Someone somewhere is going to see a tornado I bet.

My biology tests are done. I got a pretty solid B. So low, in fact, that even including extra credit points, I'm in the B range for the semester. I'm good with this. I reflected on the exams and am certain I could have not done better no matter how I had studied. I would like to hold on to my 4.0 but Oh, well.

I feel that there must be celebration. Yes.

I'm still going to be so on plan today!

Robin: Those beans sound yummy! Sorry for the drag of a day you've got set up. I hope you find something that keeps you singing through the vinyl picking.

Anne: Sorry to hear that you're having trouble sleeping. Lack of rest throws everything off. I'm not surprised to find that a busy work schedule helps you stay on plan. No time to think of being naughty! :D

Bill: :yay: for seeing the signs of fresh progress in your journey! Fantastic lunch choices too!

Yes, we have the new larger apartment to look forward to. Scheduled date is tentatively June 12th, though it may change depending on the condition in which the current tenants leave it. Their exit date is the 6th.

I'll also be writing some Helium articles, having discovered the addictiveness of having my essays rated publicly. :p

Let's see... leptin is the hormone that makes us feel sated, right? Yikes. That explains a lot. Can't we stimulate leptin production naturally? I'm going to have to go back and read that chapter of YOU: On a Diet.

ChinaMaine: Welcome back! :yay: for having such a great attitude toward your condition (being celiac) and making it work for you instead of fighting it!

Coaches/Buddies Four hours sleep last night. Lousy run this morning, but "run" did happen. Eating on plan. All good.

My head is swimming. Gotta try to sleep.

:wave: Bill, Tera, Robin, and ChinaMaine. I'll try to do proper personals tomorrow.

Anne

The rest of today was good. I was op for food. We had a great dinner at a local Italian restaurant with a full GF menu. I had Shrimp Fra Diavolo with GF pasta – for me this is almost heaven! I honestly don’t care if my calories were 200 calories over or 200 calories under. :shrug: I was off-plan for exercise. But I did take a long, rather slow, walk with my BFF’s DH. So, I’m happy with my exercise today.

Anne Mon: Ouch for the lack of sleep! Thanks for the list of books – I’m saving off to a Word doc and I’m going to try and work through them. :) I haven’t had a lot of time for the Kolata book, but I’ve listened to another 1.5 chapters and I know I fundamentally disagree with her screed. No, I don’t want 6 pack abs and a bikini. I want a healthy life, a healthy body and a healthy weight. I believe it is possible, although it’s possible my body (leptin?) and even my genetics may make it more difficult. Like Kirk, I don’t believe in the ‘no-win’ scenario. I’ve saved off your link to the Maintainers discussion of the book – I’m just too tired to delve into it tonight. But thanks! Wed: Interesting that non-stop works helps you, has the opposite effect on me I think. :D I’m glad today was better for exercise and I hope tonight was better for sleep.

Bill Tues: lol at feeling the vapors. Credit for another month of maintaining! No, the more I read Kolata, the less I’d recommend it… :) Wed: dinner sounded great! Thursday: Congrats for ‘moving forward’ and for all the progress you’ve made on ‘your journey’.

Tera :yay: new low on Tues! Wed: Ouch for the elevated pain levels, and for the pop! Congrats for all the hard work in spite of it, and for studying. You have such a positive, proactive way of approaching the future – bravo! Thurs: I’m glad C was upbeat, but I agree that the reaction to 1 diet soda a day may have been over the top. Moderation in all things, right? I’m glad school is over – so with 1 B, you still have better than a 3.8, right? That’s a fantastic GPA! Re-leptin. I agree with Bill that leptin may be something to look at. But research on leptin is still pretty ‘young’ in experimental terms – less than 20 years I believe. I have to admit the Kolata book I'm reading has me a bit gunshy on the conclusions made based on the leptin research. But it seems very clear that leptin plays a very important role indeed.

Robin Tues: ouch for the cheese sandwich and donuts. Credit for the workout! Wed: Kudos for the walk with you DH! Thurs: Yikes for the vinyl-day! I looked the book up on Amazon, it looks great – thanks!

one by one Tues: they did get Star Trek right – I want to see it again this weekend! (geek alert!) I can’t wait to see what you think of Southern Ontario. I used to camp on the shores of Lake Erie in Ontario. North of Toronto is beautiful, sort of extreme, but southwest of Toronto is very nice too… I agree with Robin Niagara on the Lake is my favorite. My Mom and I plan to visit there over Memorial Day weekend (5/25). I have fond memories of taking my son there every 2 weeks when I was a very poor student.

:wave: I drive back to Maine tomorrow evening, so I won’t post before Saturday… Stay well!

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Worked through a two hour meeting at the office with a large bag of roasted peanuts passed around. I had none. CREDIT moi. The good news is that it wasn't torture. I didn't have to fight it. I wasn't particularly tempted. I had had my normal morning snack of soy nuts before the meeting and lunch was going to happen afterward. Just like Beck says it was going to happen. Yay Beck.

Worked late enough that going out for a walk before dinner wasn't appealing even if the weather wasn't threatening. No problem; took Gerbilina for a quick walk in place. CREDIT moi.


Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for picking vinyl; Yay for taking care of your customer.

Thanks for reminding me of Meg's quote, "If you want it, you'll find a way. If you don't, you'll find an excuse." Yep.

A finger salad (a term I pickup up from someone on 3FC) is a salad meant to be eaten by hand without dressing. For example, I keep the Romaine lettuce in full leaves which are such a pleasure to eat by hand.


Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for running after only four hours of sleep. Emailing hot chicken soup to calm your system and help it get some rest.

Tera (twilit tera) - Congrats on your solid B in biology, and Kudos for your acceptance that you won't have a perfect 4.0 grade average.

Love your description of thunder, lightning, and strong winds as "a beautiful day outside." We just don't get the serious thunder storms of Texas.


ChinaMaine - Yay for being re-motivated and for Shrimp Fra Diavolo. Making good use of NJ there. And Kudos for using your hotel's treadmill.

Thanks for reading the Kolata book so that maybe I don't have to. Not sure what I can do with the information about leptin even if it's accurate.


Readers - resistance technique 5
Read all of your Response Cards - including these additional cards.
. . .I can always plan to eat this food tomorrow.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 100

WI: -1 NEW LOW
Pain: 0/1/5
Activity: 2

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:

I forgot to mention yesterday, a minor miracle, so much more exciting than the grade I got on those tests - the fact that after an hour of sitting in an office chair, my pain level hadn't gone above 3 and quickly subsided to a 1 once I was walking again!

Going to be a quiet day. I'm not going to put my nose to any grindstones today. A little housework, some research online, and lots of goofing off (that's how I'm celebrating.)

...On Plan!

Anne: :hug: :hug: :hug: hope you get some of that rest! I'm amazed that you went out and RAN after such a sleepless night!

ChinaMaine: :yay: for GF pasta! Do they make it with rice or what?

Thanks for the kind words. And gosh I want to see Star Trek! The moment I saw the trailer, I knew at least the casting was on target! I'm afraid I'll have to wait til it's released on DVD or VOD. (I hope you don't mind me geeking out with you.) ;)

Bill: :yay: for beck-described reduction in the struggle against unplanned eating! :yay: for exercise!

I find that most days in Texas are beautiful, in one sense or another. We have truly ripping storms which are a sensual and sometimes frightening experience. We have bright days perfect for unheated swimming pools. We have pale blue days with little puffy clouds racing across the sky. I distract myself from the lack of 300 ft. pines, snow tipped mountains and cascading waterfalls by looking up. :)

This AM I got a link to a Huffington Post article in my Inbox that talks about Leptin Resistance and possible treatments for it. Since leptin has been mentioned a few times in the last couple of days, so I thought some folks might be interested.

A couple caveats before I go describe what I’ve found.

I did some research this AM and it appears that although there's been some rat and phase II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_trial#Phase_II) trials with these treatments, there's been no phase III trials published yet.
And although the drugs mentioned have all been approved by the FDA, research is still being done to determine their effectiveness and dosage recommendations for new ways to use these drugs for treatment.
For example, while there are known recommended dosages for Symlin with the treatment of Diabetes, the research has not been published that indicates whether it’s effective to treat Leptin Resistance in humans, and if it is, what the appropriate dosage.
And while there is some very interesting research being done, it’s my opinion that such treatments will work best in conjunction with the kinds of things we’re all doing via Beck: eating better, exercising more, and using CBT.

The Huffington Post article I got in my email this AM set me off on a internet search to find other information on treatments for Leptin Resistance, so I’ve got links to the HP article as well as 1 other.

Huffington Post article (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf/long-term-weight-loss---m_b_192933.html) -- It’s a very interesting article; it describes
Leptin, the Hypothalamus and their role in obesity.

Leptin Resistance, how to test for it, and some treatments using FDA approved drugs for Diabetes. As I mentioned above -- as far as I can tell these treatments haven’t been fully tested on humans. While rat research is indicative of what might happen in humans, there can be significant differences once the same kind of research is done on humans.
The role of high fructose corn syrup in the development of Leptin Resistance.
A quick one sentence blurb about the beneficial role diet and exercise plays in reducing Leptin Resistance.


Reverse T3, Hypoythyroidism and their role in low metabolism. I don’t think anyone else in the group is diagnosed with Hypothyroidism, but I found this section very interesting and plan to talk to my endocrinologist about it at my next appointment.

The thyroid and the various hormones associated with the thyroid.
The thyroid can sometimes convert T4 to Reverse T3 rather than T3. Since Reverse T3 has an opposite, undesirable effect, from T3 *and* most Hypothyroid patients are treated with T4 only drugs, treatment can non-productive.
Stress and yo-yo dieting can cause the thyroid to create Reverse T3 rather than T3.
Suggests testing and treatment for high levels of Reverse T3.



And here's an article on the Children's Hospital of Boston website (http://www.childrenshospital.org/newsroom/Site1339/mainpageS1339P1sublevel493.html) - This appears to be different from the research mentioned in the HP article.

Leptin and the failures over the last couple of decades to find a treatment for obesity that addresses Leptin’s role.
New published data on rat research on treatment for Leptin Resistance trial that is currently underway by the company that owns the rights to leptin.
It also refers to a second rat study on leptin resistance.


So my reading of all this is that there are potential treatments for leptin resistance that appear to produce weight loss in rats, and perhaps even in humans. But the research isn't far enough along to allow one to say it definitively will work in humans. Or even if it's safe... So while I think the info above is interesting, I think it warrants some caution. I think the path I’m on now is the right one, but I will discuss this info with my endocrinologist the next time I see him.

:wave: Gotta get on the road to Maine. Later!

:wave: couldnt get in here this morning, nothing would load from this site for some reason.

I have numb fingers, but I finished the last t-shirt 5 min ago!! :cb:

Food is good, exercise has been lacking (my fault) I'll get to the gym tomorrow.

Im off....more stuff to get done so I can take tomorrow off.

Have a great day everyone!

Coaches/Buddies Another on plan day here. Still having sleeping issues. I'm starting to feel really off. I'm feeling physically hungry today, but am just not that interested in eating. This almost never happens. If the insomnia doesn't break soon, I'm going to have to go see a doctor about it.

I had a really nice hike through the desert this morning. Wasn't my planned exercise, but it was good exercise, and beautiful. I'm just not doing well working up to any intensity without sleep. Tomorrow is a planned pre-ride of the race course for my race on Memorial day with some of my club mates. We'll see how that goes.

ChinaMaine I think it is important to budget in a splurge once in a while. Glad you enjoyed your GF pasta.

Thanks for the links to the articles. I'll peruse them some time when I'm more functional. I'm guessing leptin isn't my issue though. I'm a head case. Hunger doesn't really play in. I was really struck with the Kessler book, and how it described my issues. Someday I do plan to do a review. When I'm more functional.

Bill Wow! Peanuts are such a weakness for me. I've come to be able to eat other nuts in moderation, and even peanut butter, but I keep peanuts far away. Good job on "walking" with Gerbilina.

Thanks for the virtual chicken soup.

Tera :high: on the new low. I'm hitting a few of those myself these days and it feels great, doesn't it!

Robin Congrats on getting the Tshirts done. Now off to the gym with you. I'll be expecting your report tomorrow.

Anne

Hello~! Do you mind if I jump in from this point onward? I'm new to 3FC forum and suchness, so I hope you don't mind my awkwardness until I get used to posting here. n_n;;

I'm on Day 11, but I'm working my way through the book... 3 days at a time. (Though, I'm thinking of slowing it down a bit) I'm using the Beck Diet Solution in coordination with calorie counting & P90x. Hopefully this will be a permenant thing. -fingers crossed- I've never felt so relaxed and positive about my dieting experience before. Cognitive therapy really is somethin'.

I've never been so aware of my habits before, so it feels like I'm doing somethings wrong (like eating standing up, or fitting in junk into my calories sponentanously "because I can") but I'm just doing things I've always been doing! o_O Wowa. Now that I'm aware of these things, I think I can finally make changes to my habits! Hurray. I'm so glad I got this book!!

Right-o. I hope to get to know you all! :hug:

:welcome: bucketwithapurpose :welcome:

And, in honor of your very first post on 3FC today, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about the Beck Diet Solution?

And how did you find out about the Beck thread on 3FC?

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did gym including squats and lunges; CREDIT moi.

Went out to dinner and left some of the rice on my plate - still a big deal for me to leave food; CREDIT moi.

Talked to a guy who walks 50 miles a week which reminded me that I used to do that (and more) regularly, but have slacked off. Gotta get back in gear. Busy isn't a valid excuse, it's just a choice.


Robin (RobinW) - Yay for numb fingers from hard work; now to get some numb muscles from an early morning trip to the gym. Perhaps your PT needs to Twit you as well as your DH, LOL.

Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for this sleeping deprivation. You're way too active to tolerate that. Hope you find a solution. Maybe even a short vacation with your DH sans kiddos to shock your system.

I can still visualize your desert from the pictures you posted earlier; sounds like a neat walk.


Tera (twilit tera) - Just WOW on your "minor miracle" sitting in an office chair for an hour. Gotta believe that your chiropractor is the miracle worker. Keeping fingers crossed for more of those for you.

Congrats on the continued, ho-hum, new low scale reading.

Thanks for the neat description of Texas weather. Does the arrival of warm weather mean that you can swim in your mom's pool now? Or has that been completely replaced by your gym?


ChinaMaine - That's interesting info on Leptin, Leptin Resistance, and Reverse T3. I remember that it blew my mind when I first found out that our fat is an organ that produces a hormone that's part of the hunger regulation system. Now this new stuff that formerly obese tend to Leptin Resistance is another mind boggler. Never get over admiring the complexity of our bodies.

I have mixed feelings about "discovering" that overweight/obesity is hormonally caused. Even though that would fit the anecdotal evidence of the whole of 3FC, I'm leery of a diagnosis for which a daily-pill-for-life is the magic solution. Perhaps I'm over enamored with Beck Cognitive Therapy solution, which works for me and for many of us hanging around this thread. When a whole society has a problem it seems that a whole-society solution should be possible.

Hope your long drive from NJ back to Maine went well.


bucketwithapurpose - Yep, jump right in. Kudos for barreling along in the Program days in Beck.

Kinda shocking isn't it to discover eating standing up. I never knew I did this until I went through the Beck exercise of specifically looking for that and found that I nibbled from my plate as I walked to the table. Beck says that those first couple of weeks are the most important part of her book.

Are you doing the P90x exercises from the DVD's? They sound super from a quick read.


Readers - resistance technique 6
Drink water or a low-calorie beverage if you're thirsty.

Water doesn't have any magical weight loss power, but it you are thirsty and not hungry, it can ward off an urge to eat unplanned food.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 100

No weigh in (at Mom's house)
Pain: 0/2/6
Activity: 2

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, wearing my veryspecialshoes :yay: (it was a slow day!)

I'm afraid I went about 300 calories over budget, but lately I've been coming in under budget repeatedly, and it was definitely a controled excess.

B and I have come to Mom's so he can work in her garden, assuming the rain lets up and lets him to it. Tonight we're going to have a special dinner together and tomorrow either go creek walking or mall walking, depending on weather and hip.

Anne: Congrats on your new lows! It's a very good feeling indeed. In fact, whenever a temptation is put in front of me lately, my response is usually, "I just don't want to break my momentum."

Why wait to see the doctor about the sleep? What I mean is that I can't think of any reason, considering the amount of exercise you get and schedule you keep, for you to not be falling asleep at night. What happens when you lay down? What home remedies have you tried? (This is getting to be a bit worrisome.)

bucketwithapurpose: :welcome2: to 3FC and the Beck thread. I'm glad you found us (and Beck, of course). I'm very glad you just jumped in with both feet! Just what you should have done. :D

Yes, CBT is a very powerful tool. I first started using it to build self-esteem, but when I saw The Beck Diet Solution, that was when I realized that it could be applied to other things. :idea:

Good luck with P90x. It looks intense, or maybe that's just the art on the box. (?)

Bill: :yay: for leaving food on your plate and exercise. Big :yay: for busy is a choice.

The warm season means that now I get to swim at mom's and at the athletic club! (The athletic club is a lot closer and easier to fit into our schedule, but I go to mom's just to spend time with her, so there's an opportunity there as well.)

I follow you on being hesitant about the "medical" solution. It seems that as a societal issue, obesity is merely a symptom (hormonally induced or not). What if, instead of selling us yet another pill, they reverse the trends that got our hormones so out of whack in the first place? I'm talking, of course, about all the factors that contribute to a high sugar, low activity lifestyle. But of course, that would make the food and medical communities less money, I'm sure.

And a burning question...

Greetings, Beckies. I have been trying to keep up with y'all. I am following your progress and challenges, and you are really an amazing bunch. Just am not coherent enough to post. Stuff in my life is nuts right now, on all fronts. Am trying to reflect on how much of this is of my own doing. Some, to be sure, and that is more frustrating than the stuff that happens and it out of my own control. Credit, moi, for that realization. Also credit for prioritizing and saying no to the less important stuff in my work.

Here is the burning question: After a great big welcome, Bucketwithapurpose, I have to say that is the greatest id EVER. First question: will you elaborate a little bit on your choice? Second question, what can we call you for short?

Can't help but speculate. As the great philosopher Gallager says, "Everywhere you leak, the world hangs a bucket."

As promised, the sodium rant. Chinese food. Always read on the maintainers thread about how much water wt. one Chinese dinner puts on. This was half a Chinese dinner at most, at 2:00 p.m. and then no dinner, just some trail mix, granted some more sodium, no alcohol. Awakened to the bloated eyes, puffy, bleh. Ugly. I think if we wimmen can't bring ourselves to consider sodium the silent killer it is, then we can just call it the Ugly Additive.

Now for the epiphany:

You all probably know this already. Certainly Beck addresses it, though she does it from the forward thinking perspective. I had to realize it in afterthought. OK, so for me, sometimes when I stay up all night, it dawns on me.

Long story short...traveling, in hotel room, great restaurant planned. Plans derailed and my two companions went without me. The next day reported the food was a good as the hype, and it was even cheap! A Juicy Lucy with a mountain of fries, jumbo Margarita, and two Cornonas for $20.00. Sans the fries, that is exactly what I would have had. The next day, after I found out all about their being pleased with their whole experience, I found myself so pleased that I had not gone. That much food and liquor that late at night would have had several bad effects on me..sleeping, for sure. Now, here's the biggie:

I realized that had I had exactly that meal, looking back the next day would have given me no pleasure, none whatsoever. I would have been feeling the effects of poor sleep, etc. but there would have been nothing on which to draw from that indulgent, highly anticipated meal. I did, however, feel really good about not having had it.

As busy as life is right now, I have to dig through BDS and find out exactly what Beck says about this. I need to be able to use this realization in the moment, not as an afterthought. Look forward to your insights or experiences with this.

just a quick hello........got to the gym today :cb:

:wave:

Thanks for the warm welcome, you guys. :D You can call me bucket for short. It derived from my famous bucket jokes as follows:
"What's red and looks like a bucket?"
"...?"
"A red bucket."
"...."
"What's blue and looks like a bucket?"
"..A blue bucket?"
"No a red bucket in disguise!"**
**cue me laughing hysterically at my joke and getting the I-want-to-dropkick-you-in-the-face stare in return.

Bill - I stumbled upon the Beck Solution via looking for books in the general cognitive therapy genre. I had a break down and a total binge a couple of days before I checked the book out, and most of it was relating to my happiness levels, my self-esteem, and wanting to lose weight but always falling into bad habits (like binging). I ended up checking out The Beck Solution for the issues I have with weight loss, and two other books for everything else to kind of wrap it all up.

Needless to say, so far, pleasantly surprised. I wish I had purchased a cognitive therapy book sooner, haha. Yay for eventually finding it, though. :)

I actually had joined another Beck group for support/coach/buddy system, but it.. kind of.. sucked? So I googled more groups, found this one, thought "heeeyy, this one is active! I'm joining" and vuala~! XD

On the topic of P90x (yes, the workouts are big challenges, but anyone can do them, really.. it's just a matter of modifying to your needs), I just got done with plyo today. Hurray. An hour of jumping somehow always takes me an extra half hour to complete since I always horse around during the workout. I'm so freakin' proud of myself that I got through it because midway during the warm-up I was thinking "I really don't want to do this. I already worked so hard during the week. My calves hurt. C'mon, it's a saturday" etc etc. Stuck through it, made it work, and I'm all endorphin hyped and better then before. Woot. The hardest part is getting through the first 15 minutes, and after that, it's smoooth sailin'. Credit to me for getting through it. Yay.

Being all endorphin rushed and extreme (I'm in such a mood where you find yourself tearing a phone book in half with your bare hands and making loud animal noises while thumping your chest rapidly), kudos RobinW for going to the gym. Well.. If you could.. raise one of your hands for a high five from me to you, that'd be good enough.. right? I kind of miss the gym. The YMCA had some really nice quiet treadmills. I envy the quiet treadmill. Only treadmill I got gives this loud THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP that you can hear outside if you're running fast enough. Blegh.

twilit tera - You're in Texas too?! Fun weather, aye? It's been an awefully rainy April and May. I'm just waiting for it to hit the 100's again. XD

And now I shower.
Wheeee~.

Coaches/Buddies I'm not sure if today was on plan or not. I suppose so. I had a huge workout this morning, the last big one before the race next week, and I ate about 1000 calories more than normal. I also burned off about 1000 calories more than normal, so it works out. I do expect my weight to be off tomorrow, just due to electrolyte reshuffling. We'll see.

My mental energy is still low, so not much going on in the way of CT stuff, except the usual running self talk. I guess that part is good. I seem to have had a breakthrough with sleep last night, and fully expect to sleep again tonight. I'm not overtired, but also not wide awake, and that is just about perfect.

It's time to admit that I'm under a lot of stress. There are major issues at work, career-altering issues, and addressing them is a lot of work. I'm also turning 40 next week, so I feel like I'm at a crossroads anyway.

On the plus side, I went "shopping" in the pre-baby bin again today, and got about half the remaining stuff out. I've dropped a size, easily. I'm not even so far from the stuff that remains in there. It really feels good. The last 10 pounds or so have made a huge difference in my self-esteem and the way I carry myself, and I'm feeling like I'm stepping back into my pre-baby body. Not that I'm done, but have definitely turned a corner.

Bucket :welcome: I think CT is a really important cornerstone of my weight management plan, and hope you find it to be the same. Beck does it really well.

Nice work on the plyo!

Bill Thanks for this: Busy isn't a valid excuse, it's just a choice. Sounds like a great Response Card! Hope you find balance with your walking, gym and Gerbilina. Your dance card is pretty full, and sometimes switching out one activity for another is a good thing to do to shake up the body.

I'm kind of with you on the leptin issue in your message to ChinaMaine. For me, my food issues are head issues. It isn't hunger. Just the reward centers in my brain firing off when I get certain foods or certain quantities of foods. I think that is an issue of bad training of the dopamine systems rather than a leptin-driven one. Which reminds me, I still have to do that book review some time. Perhaps when I'm 40. Wahahaha.

Tera Controlled splurges are just that. We all need them once in a while. Good for you.

As far as seeing the doctor. Hmmm. Two factors going on here. The first: I've actually been a lifelong insomniac, and this is not new to me. Hasn't happened since I've had the kids, I'm guessing because my general fatigue levels haven't allowed it, but the pattern is familiar. My experience has been that by the time I get to the doctor for some help, usually in the form of appropriate medication since I already practice the sleep hygiene stuff, the current cycle has ended, and at that point I'm talking about preventative care for the next cycle. But, second factor: I'm in the process of firing my current primary care provider and replacing her with someone else. So I haven't gone through all the get-acquainted visit and settling in. So as long as the current cycle ends soon, I'm going to wait to discuss that with the new doctor as part of that visit. Whenever that happens--within the next month or two.

maryblu Sorry about the sodium bloat!

You're looking for thoughts on how to keep the good feeling of passing up an unsatisfying and diet breaking meal foremost in your mind. Yes? This is a perfect opportunity to write a Memory Card, which is described in CBDL and not BDS. Just write down your experience on a card, just like you'd write a Response Card. Then read it before you go out to eat. Or on travel, or anywhere you think you'll be tempted. Make more than one copy if that is helpful. The cards actually remind me of school--studying from flash cards. Repeat, repeat, repeat, until it sticks in the head. And then repeat some more, maybe infrequently, to keep it there.

BTW: a really, really profound insight. Thanks for sharing. And fattening food is NEVER cheap.

Robin :wave: Hope you had a happy gym. Hope you have another tomorrow.

:wave: to onebyone, angelmomma210, and missing you kuhljeanie and davidette. Hope you're lurking.

Anne

I drove home from NJ yesterday. It was a long day – 8.5 hours of driving and I got in at 10 PM. Food was good yesterday though. I had breakfast and lunch at my friend’s so that was all op. I got dinner at Boston Market – it’s the best tasting GF fast food. I had a rotisserie chicken breast, dill potatoes and green beans. It was actually pretty tasty. :) Sunday night I did a search on GF fast food to get the latest info. I found out that McDonalds chicken breast is no longer GF :( but that Starbucks now carries a GF orange cake. :woohoo: So, I bought a latte and cake after dinner. I drank the latte right away, and saved the cake for when I was tired. At 300 calories, it’s really not too bad. I ate ½ the cake on the road, and the other half after I got home last night. It was sooooo good to get home.

WI- down 0.5 lbs to New Low. I also hit my mini-goal, and am just 1.1 lbs from getting to the 170s. :woohoo: I haven’t definitely decided what my reward is for this mini-goal, so it’s something I need to figure out soon. :) Food – op (I budgeted an extra 200 calories of food since burned almost 800 calories today), Exercise – did 2 hours of yard work. I was really tired so it wasn’t as fun as it usually is. But the yard is really starting to look better, so that’s rewarding. Fatigue: 3.3 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue) By this evening I was a very cranky girl. Luckily my DH is a certified saint. ;)

Anne I’m really sorry about the insomnia – it really makes everything so much harder. I hope you sleep well tonight. It’s probably best to keep the intensity down when you are so tired, don’t you think? It’d just be another stressor on your immune system… I’m positive leptin isn’t my issue either. I think metabolism, sabotaging thoughts and bad habits are my enemies. I finished the Kolata book yesterday, and found most of the logic to be poor, and it seemed she was selective in the research she discussed. The one argument that really seemed reasonable to me was that those who have issues with leptin really do face difficult biological issues. And our society’s insistence that obesity is fundamentally a matter of will power is doing those folks a real disservice. I’m not saying weight loss is impossible for them; I don’t think there’s enough research yet to say. Rather that they may face challenges that will power may not allow them to overcome.

bucket (with a purpose) :welcome: and nice to meet you too! :hug:

Bill Left rice on your plate – credit! And credits and lunges – kudos! You exercise a lot – doesn’t it make sense that you’d exercise a bit less now that you’re maintaining? I agree – I still find it so odd that our fat produces a hormone. I do feel for those who have Leptin Resistance. Doesn’t it mean that they’d be hungry all the time? Wouldn’t they tend toward binging? And our society holds people who binge in greater contempt than they do the ‘regular’ obese. It seems that if the Leptin Resistant are always hungry, then it’s a challenge that the rest of us can’t really imagine. It’s possible I’m not really understanding things – but if they do feel insatiably hungry, then taking a drug to help them respond to Leptin makes a lot of sense to me. To me it wouldn’t be a diet pill anymore than my thyroid pills are a diet bill. My thyroid doesn’t function properly. My metabolic issues are caused by my thyroid disease and, probably, also by a lack of exercise and poor diet. For the leptin resistant, they may have a mediating symptom of ever-present, insatiable hunger. While their weight issues are partially a symptom of their disease, there are also other possible sources of their weight problems. We might benefit from having to walk a mile in their shoes... At least that’s how I’ve been processing the info. But the research in this area is still very new, I honestly don't think anyone knows for sure yet...

In fact, the folks on this thread may self-select for Beck because it can be effective for them. It’s possible, that the Leptin Resistant might not experience the same benefits from CBT since their issues are fundamentally biological and not cognitive…

I don’t want it to seem I’m interested in any possible leptin based treatment, because I don’t think it would help me. My issues are cognitive and metabolic, I believe.

Tera Credit for the calorie counting, vitamins and very special shoes ! :D It sounds like you have a nice day planned with your Mom. Sorry your pain level was up quite a bit. :yay: for the new low yesterday! Yes most GF pasta is made with rice, although some is made with corn. This tasted like it was made of rice… I’ll happily geek out with you over Star Trek, anytime. :D I don’t want to over-hype it, but if you like the original ST, I think you’ll like this movie…

maryblu I had edamame with salt for my before dinner ‘salad’. It was delicious but your post today kept coming to mind. ;) What a fantastic realization about your missed restaurant meal.

Robin Yay for the gym! :wave:

It seems that Anne and I cross-posted: :yay: for a great exercise day! And kudos for fitting into most of your pre-baby clothes. It's got to feel wonderful. :D I'm really glad you slept well last night -- is it because you didn't have to work today? It's good you've identified the multiple sources of stress in your life right now... I hope identifying them helps make your daily life better... :)

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Put the tomato plants into the ground; CREDIT moi. I'm psyched. I chose the variety of seed from the catalog; buried the little guy 1/2 inch under in the little pot; wrote his name on the tongue depressor stuck in the pot; transferred him into the larger pot; watered him on the patio waiting for the date of no frost; and, now, put him in the garden. Such fun.

And, in all those steps, one of the plants clearly wasn't that kind of tomato, LOL. Somewhere, someone (presumably me) got the wrong seed growing. DW wasn't phased a bit, "That happens, that's why we plant more than we need." Oh Well.

Headed to a 50th birthday party today. Will be a major eating opportunity, likely good choices and certainly ample ones. Hoping to do something rational.


maryblu - Ouch for "nuts right now, on all fronts." Sending supportive thoughts that you move through the perfect storm of stuff happening. Kudos for making choices by "saying no to the less important stuff ."

Ouch for the sodium bloat from Chinese food. Kudos for one of the best phrases ever - the "Ugly Additive." You need to get that into the standard sodium rants by our sodium guy (Dan I think).

Amazing insight to realize that the "indulgent, highly anticipated meal" would have been a negative experience the next day, and that having skipped it you did "feel really good." You're right on that that's a key Beck insight; we'll feel good for exercising our Resistant Muscle, bad for the Giving In Muscle. I do like your story, particularly that the grand meal "was even cheap!"


Robin (RobinW) - Waving back. Kudos for gym even when busy, busy, busy. Hope you got out a bit into yesterday's sunshine.

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for the 1000 calorie workout; that's some moving about.

Ouch for the "career-altering issues at work." Good luck in making choices and finding the way to execute them. Sometimes it's just luck to be on the team that comes to be in favor. Wish you well in that.

Congrats on the progress in size that allowed the successful shopping in the pre-baby bin. Neat that you feel that you've "definitely turned a corner."


Tera (twilit tera) - Yay that your activities for the day include choosing which type of walking you do - creek or mall. Soooooo much better than being bed-ridden all day. Sure seems like you're making progress. Kudos for your determination and perseverance.

I like the phrase, "controlled excess." That reflects my current attitue that it isn't a little excess that worries me, but uncontrolled eating of any volume that's the concern.


ChinaMaine - Welcome home road warrior; that's a long drive. Kudos for staying on plan during the trip. (I know Boston Market; fed my family many a meal from there back when they were called Boston Chicken and were about the only option for take out besides Chinese or pizza.)

That's a key insight that it's self selecting to be here; those of us who find Beck useful probably are less likely to be suffering from Leptin Resistance. Your reminder is useful to me that I don't know what other obese/overweight folks are going through.


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Simultaneously wincing and LOL at the "famous bucket jokes." Can understand the stares, LOL.

Kudos for knowing to go shopping in the "general cognitive therapy genre", with special Kudos for finding Beck and recognizing that she'd be useful to you.

I recognize those Sabotaging Thoughts to quit the plyo exercise. BTDT. Kudos for plowing ahead. Is plyo your key exercise or do you use different ones from the P90x set?


Readers - resistance technique 7
Meditate, pray, or relax.

Try one of the following breathing techniques:

• Take 10 deep, s-l-o-w breaths in through your nose and out through your mouth. Concentrate on your breathing. If you start to think about food, gently bring your attention back to your breathing.

• Change your breathing, inhaling very shallowly through your nose (so that your chest does not rise) and s-l-o-w-l-y count to four. Then exhale shallowly as you s-l-o-w-l-y count to four. Do this for two to five minutes. If you start to think about food, gently bring your attention back to counting and breathing.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 100

Quick, joyous shout out to all. Hope to come back late this evening for my version of personals...you know, the abridged kind.

The lake is like glass, it is so still and quiet. Chinamaine, you can appreciate for sure. A balmy 34 degrees, granted, but hey, it didn't freeze. My cool season stuff is up, but would have survived nonetheless. I just don't want another apple-free summer due to late spring frost.

Dug back into TBDS last night. It was rather dusty. Too much insight, too many tools being ignored. Then dug into my Exotic Plant Manual to answer a question for a friend. Happened onto the front part of the manual and all the knowledge contained there. Granted, 35- year- old- knowledge, but basic horticulture is pretty much basic horticulture, and another book that should not have dust on it. Better to store some of that knowledge in my brain. The thinking is that if I have the information here in the house somewhere, I have it. Never mind if I can find it or not; it is here in the clutter somewhere. Hmmm...I need to get some of that Beck knowledge back in my brain, not amid the clutter. Thank goodness the jacket cover is pink!

Coaches/Buddies: I've been struggling lately (which I think is obvious from my lack of posting), but I am determined to turn things around. So, here I am.

So far today I have:

Weighed (even though I've been struggling emotionally and habit-wise, etc. I've managed to maintain my weight loss-- 125) :broc:
Done 30 minutes of the elliptical in the basement :broc:
Done some strength training in the basement to help with my hips which will help me be able to start running again soon :broc:
Threw in some ab exercises too :broc:
Logged my breakfast in the Senswear software :broc:
Ate my breakfast mindfully and slowly :broc:
Came here to post :broc:
Given myself credit :broc:
Looked up the date of the Detroit 1/2 Marathon to make sure that I will be able to do it :broc:

I'm going to an art fair with my sister and kids. I'm a little bit nervous about the fair food that will be available. I'm going to bring some protein bars to have available and do my best to make good/mindful decisions. Coming here and discussing my apprehension is a HUGE step and knowing that I will be coming back here to report later is also a big motivator.

I will read my Advantages Deck and Response Cards before I go.

I miss you all and again look forward to being back in touch and hopefully will get to some personals very soon.

WI: steady
Pain: 0/2/5
Activity: 1

Credits: wearing my very special shoes :yay:, saving calories to use at dinner (we did Ghengis Grill) :yay:, drinking water :yay:

I am less than a pound away from my goal of breaking 220. Then I'll be less than 20 pounds away from Onederland! My 219-and-change reward is a fresh haircut. My Onederland reward is retaking the photo in my avatar and posting before/after style progress pics.

I definitely want to put these two reward close together, so I am going to be so on plan today!

maryblu: What a great epiphany! I can tell you that I've lately not really been tempted to go out and do food/beverages that I'll really regret later. Even last night, when B and I were planning a special evening, we were considering Dave and Busters, but I was considerably less interested after seeing their menu online, how few their healthy options were, and how impossible it was to find nutritional info. But I think the reasons I didn't like those things are parallel to your epiphany - I really enjoy being able to say that I made the best decision I could have.

:yay: for digging back into BDS in response to your insights. I love the way that jacket cover works like a neon sign too!

Robin: :wave: :yay: for gym!

Bucket: Howdy neighbor! :wave: I've been remarking to anyone who'll sit still that this is the coolest May I can remember in the 12 years I've been here. I'm in Addison. What part of DFW do you call home?

Fantastic job getting through a saturday workout! :yay:

Anne: Getting the self-talk down to the part where you habitually are using it productively, even when mentally strained, is excellent. :yay:

I understand now about the insomnia. Yes, this sounds like a good thing to include when you give your new PCP your medical history. If it's cyclical, you may be able to anticipate the low-sleep part of the cycle and circumvent it. Good luck!

ChinaMaine: Boston Market has GF stuff on the menu? Hmm. Has the rest of their food improved? I stopped going there when my uncle's blood sugar shot up after eating turkey of all things.

Anyway, sounds like you've had some really great food lately. :) :yay: for hitting minigoal!

Regarding your input on the leptin/endorphin/appetite vs. metabolism/willpower thing. I just keep coming back to the concept that obesity is a symptom. Now if I'm sneezing, I might have an allergy, or a cold. I might have more than one contributing cause. But the sneeze isn't the problem - whatever is causing me to sneeze is. There is just no one-size-fits-all solution to this problem.

I grew up on TOS, but never had a great fondness for Kirk. I was always more invested in the subordinate characters, particularly Scotty. :)

Bill: Hooray for "grounded" tomatoes! :crossed: for choosing "something rational" sounds like a good opportunity to use response cards. :)

Kim: So happy to see your dancing broccoli once again! :yay: for preparing yourself to confront fair food. My thoughts are with you.

Whoa, scale went down two pounds from 158 to 156. o____O I think it's just flunctuation, but it's still exciting to see it move DOWN for once instead of going UP. This is like the first week I've had in a loooong time where I got on a the scale and the numbers have gone down. :dancer: I hope it continues like this!

Chest, back, and ab work today. Not my favorite workout in the bunch as I'm not very good at push-ups... which Chest&Back requires. But I'll do my best anyway!

Kudos to me for reading my cards, making sure I sit down before I put anything in my mouth, not eating past dinnertime last night (which was a struggle, but I made it! Woohoo!), making time to workout today, and giving myself credit for all of the above. Yay.

Bill - I thought you usually hung up the tomato plants. o.o Hm. Kudos for transfering the little plant to a new pot! My dad hates that part the most! XD

Well, there's 12 DVDs in the P90x set, with rotation every 30 days or so, plyo is probably the most intense and best workout in the entire series, but I'm so thankful I don't have to do it everyday. If I did, I'd probably become a zombie because I'd be so tired.

twilit tera - Haha! My Dad has been commenting on how nice the cool weather has been lately. I'm in the North Richland Hills area. Just moved here again. I was here when I was little, but I spent most of my time in Keller and Saginaw. My parents like doing this thing where we move every 2 years or so. Blegh. I don't think I've ever been in Addison, but I gotta admit, NRH has some wicked biking trails.

I'm rooting for you to get past that 220 barrier! :D It must feel awesome to be so close to your goal!!

bennyhannahmama - Wow, you've done so much already! Lol. Major kudos for planning ahead and being prepared in all generality! That's really awesome. :cp:

maryblu - Huzzah for digging back into TBDS. I think the pink cover is a blessing and a curse. On the brightside, you can probably notice it from a mile away. On the downside, it's very feminine and you can see it from a mile away. (Or maybe it's just me? I get a little embaressed about feminine books. Haha.)

wndranne - Dang! 1000 calorie burn? You gotta' fill me in on what you've been doing for exercise because that's one hellouva' burn. Kudos for breaking even with your calories. I sympathize with the stress thing, and I hope everything settles down a bit soon! Deffo, congrats on shopping in the pre-baby bin, though. :yay:

Hi Coaches

I don't know where I'm at mentally/emotionally with this food business. After reading half of The Eater's Manifesto by Michael Pollan, it dawns on me that I should be eating food.
:doh:
It strikes me as utterly ridiculous that I need a book to tell me to eat food but what he's really saying is eat real food, not fake stuff. I *know* this. I want this. I'm just not doing this very consistently. Though, credit moi, I am still off the fake sugars so for me this is a credit to be proud of.

I'm feeling utterly exhausted too. Yesterday my body gave me the "I give" sign: the start of a coldsore. When I've really gone beyond my limits and refuse to stop (or more likely don't even know I should stop) I get a coldsore. if I don't heed it, I risk getting sick so I went to bed early, drank a lot of orange juice, woke up this morning still tired and really foggy-brained. We were supposed to go grocery shopping today. DH hasn't brought it up and I don't know if I want to except everything is closed tomorrow (Victoria Day here) so I feel like I have to as my week starts again come Tuesday. But it's cold out there and I'm sleepy and the day is going by... I am happy just to let it go.

So nothing to report on the food front or the weightloss front or even the decision making front. I am at a utter standstill. I'm sad there's no easy answer. can you believe it? You'd think I would have dropped that rock ages ago.

And :wave: Hello bucketwithapurpose welcome!

:wave:
op about 75% got to the gym, but Ive added bread and I need to get that back out of my diet. Its just gunkie!

Did some yard work....and Im inspired to get some flowers in the garden, and some tomato plants planted!! Deciding what to do with the backyard. Its tiny....and needs plenty of thought when you have 3 stepgrandkids next door and 12 yr old dd.

K....Im off to get some more cooking done for next week.

Have a great sunday evening!

Coaches/Buddies Some days I wonder. wndranne for sure.

Today I lifted DS up and my back burst into excruciating pain. I'm hoping it is just kind of tweaked (this has been known to happen) and isn't really damaged in any way. I'm guessing tweaked, since it feels kinda tweaky, and like one good pop would set things right, but I can't walk right now and DH kicked me out of the family room so he could deal with the kids alone. I'm not amused. This was not on my training plan for sure.

I was MASSIVELY hungry today after yesterday's pre-race workout on the course. My weight is up about 4 pounds and my fingers are swollen so much I can't get my rings off. Electrolyte imbalance. Normal after an intense effort. So I ate to hunger, but fortunately my appetite is drifting back to normal now. I suppose I'm officially off-plan, but wasn't really expecting today to be on plan, so am I on my off plan or off my on plan. Don't really know. Not really concerned about the behavior pattern, which is the important thing for me. Resistance muscles and all that. Fluid should flush out after a day or two as my body returns to balance. Planning begins tomorrow again, for sure, as things are back to normal.

Sleep went better last night, and I caught another nap today, so I'm not struggling to stay awake right now. Napping seems pretty counterproductive, but once I have to fight to stay awake I have a hard time shutting that down at night.

Bill LOL on nursing your faux tomato along.

Thanks for the career thoughts. I'm not in danger of getting fired or anything. Just shunted into a path I'm not happy about. I may change departments or something. It'll work out--the process is just unpleasant.

maryblu You're right about the pink cover on BDS. I can see mine from here. A very nice technique, yes?

Kim Glad to see you here. Sorry to hear that you are struggling. Glad to see the dancing broccoli again. Struggling happens to all of us, and it just means we need to work harder, or regroup, and then try again. You're doing a fine job with that.

I was going to sign up for my half on Nov 1, but guess I'll wait until I figure out the deal with my back first. When is yours?

Tera I can't wait to see the new pic of you with the new do! You are going to be so on plan today!

Thanks for your concern about the insomnia. Your prodding got me to accelerate the process by getting the contact info for the doc I'm planning to check out.

bucket Gotta love those downward fluctuations.

My 1000 calorie burn yesterday was a triathlon preparation workout on the race course at nearly race pace. 16 miles on the bike, including a big hill, in one hour, and a 3.3 mile run in 40 min. Not something I do every day. The race itself is 25 May, Memorial Day, and also my 40th birthday.

onebyone We all miss the obvious stuff from time to time. You've had so much going on, that maybe it is a good idea to regroup a bit and breathe deeply before rushing out to the next big thing. I think you're right that your body is giving you a sign.

RobinW Have fun with your back yard!

See you all tomorrow. I'm thinking positively about my back.

Anne

WI- up 0.25 lbs. Read my cards and made a plan. We wanted to get our first lobster of the season today, but the weather didn’t cooperate. So we made fish tacos instead. Credit moi! I also made GF Tabbouleh (with quinoa instead of bulgar) for my snacks this week. Food – op, Exercise – off-plan. I was just too tired to do any exercise today – I barely got off the sofa. But that gave me time to try and get caught up on my monthy budget stuff. Unfortunately, my bank’s website only works on Internet Explorer and IE seems to have gotten corrupted on my laptop. My attempts to re-install IE failed miserably. So, nothing much got done today. Oh well… Fatigue: 4.2 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue)

Bill Credit for planting your tomatoes! I’d planned to do mine this weekend too, but it looks like we’ll have 2 nights this week with likely frost, so planting tomatoes will have to wait until I return from visiting my Mom. Oh well… I hope you had fun at your party – and did ‘something rational’ – :lol: This whole Leptin Resistant thing has been an enlightening for me too – it’s forced me to see some of my preconceptions are probably wrong.

maryblu It’s down to at or near freezing a couple nights this week for us too. Can I blame you for sending this weather my way? :lol: It’s keeping me from planting tomatoes and basil on schedule. It’s been really windy here, but I’m still enjoying mid-spring immensely.

Kim Good to see you back and I hope you do, in fact, turn things around. You’ve done a lot of exercise; eating mindfully is the core of all our work with food I think… Here’s to hoping you could make some reasonable choices at the art fair!

Tera So close to breaking through your next milestone weight – 219ish. I’m getting excited with anticipation. :D Your excitement is catching, I think! Personally I don’t mind Boston Market food. I had chicken breast with the skin off, and as far as I’m concerned it’s the best fast food GF chicken available. That, unfortunately, isn’t saying much since most GF fast food chicken (without coating, bun and special sauce) is pretty gross in my book. :) I don’t eat fast food burgers in general, because there is too big of a chance that crumbs from the buns will fall on the grill when the burgers cook. (Sorry I don’t want to bore you with weird GF concerns…) In any case, there’s very little available for lunch / dinner, and most of what is available isn’t very tasty. I have to agree with you totally that obesity should not be treated with a pill. I don’t believe it would work if we tried…

bucket (with a purpose) Enjoy your two pounds gone. :yay: If you are eating reasonably, exercising, and starting to learn the Beck skills, then this weight loss may very well be more than ‘fluctuation’. Even if it goes up for a day or two, it’ll probably go back down even further than it has so far. Impressive exercise routine – credit! Congrats for not eating unplanned food last night – ‘Hunger is not an emergency’ is one of my favorite sayings. I know I had to rely on it several times myself today! :D

one by one :hug: I’m sorry you are feeling exhausted and a bit adrift today. Credit for reading good, thought-provoking books rather than just watching the tube. Eating ‘real’ food takes some practice, just like doing CBT does... But knowing you want to is step 1. Congrats!

Robin Credit for going to the gym again, and for being mostly op and cooking food for the week. A small yard is more challenging in many ways, especially if you want to be sure it’s kid-friendly.

Anne Ouch for the back pain -- :hug: You have a good attitude about your calorie needs, water retention / electrolyte imbalance, etc. All of that will wash out and staying ‘on-plan’ today would probably have been counterproductive in the long-term. I’m glad sleep was better again, and napping is probably what you needed today to catch up for all the sleep you lost last week. Here’s to hoping that all systems are go in the next day or two. :crossed:

Coaches/Buddies:

I ate a protein bar in the car on the way to the fair (that's the one place I forget to eat mindfully, but I do know I'm capable of it!) My kids got ice cream and I did NOT! I also did NOT get the chocolate covered banana I considered for a minute. I did have a few spoonfuls of each of their ice creams, but I also accounted for that in my food log. At dinner, my sister and I split a cheeseburger (we went to a pub), some fries and a yummy salad. I did take a couple of bites of my son's mac and cheese too. I accounted for everything I ate. Because of working out this morning, all the walking we did at the fair and skipping my morning, afternoon and late night snacks, I will end up with a calorie deficit. All in all, I'm very happy with how the day turned out. Oh I also did read my Advantages Deck x2 today and my Response Cards right before I got out of the car to go to the fair.
I was thinking about what my choices might have been had I not posted here before I left and if I had not read my cards, etc. I truly think things would have been very different. Oops, just remembered that I did not eat dinner or the ice cream mindfully at all! I'm really glad to know I'm headed in the right direction.

I did glance quickly at people's replies to me and I want to thank you all for welcoming me back with open arms and all the encouragement.

Anne- I was supposed to do my 1st 1/2 on May 31st, but between aching hips/knees I took a break from running and am now going to train for the Detroit 1/2 on October 16th. I hope your back is just "tweaked" and feeling better very soon.

Hope to catch up with everyone more soon.

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Survived the 50th Birthday Party; CREDIT moi. Did the old trick of dividing my plate into quarters. One quarter of small bits from the grill, one quarter an ear of unbuttered corn, one half of grilled veggies. Skipped the table of pasta salads and choice breads. Skipped the gloppy desserts in favor of a serving of fresh fruit that I had brought to be sure that I had a dessert option. CREDIT moi for that.

Continuing to think of Leptin resistance: at the supermarket, I saw the largest woman I've ever seen out and about. She had her whole upper body draped over the cart, barely pushing herself along. I felt warm sympathy for her, instead of the negative thoughts I'm capable of and have had in the past. Interesting, her clothes were impeccable; no rumpled house dress type of thing. I felt hope for her. If a Leptin Resistance pill exists, I hope she finds it.


maryblu - LOL at flipping between The Beck Diet Solution and Exotic Plant Manual for wisdom; now that's eclectic reading.

Has your loon returned to your lake yet?


onebyone - Yay for "Eat food; not too much; mostly vegetables." Best seven word summary of a book there is, and printed on the jacket no less.

Ouch for exhausted and foggy-brained. Hope the holiday today gives you some rest time to gather your energy. Sounds like you're having a postpartum downer after your three years of tension. Glad that you're staying with posting here while you work your way out.


Robin (RobinW) - Happy Victoria Day. No doubt your DH expects you to take the day off, LOL. (And, no doubt, your DD will demand her birthright to do the same.)

Grandkids could be a challenge to both tomatoes and flowers; good luck with those. We don't mind the neighborhood kids who swipe a tomato or so to eat; we are rather indignant when the teenage boys swipe them and to throw!!!

Unplanned bread is evil.


Anne (wndranne) - Excruciating Ouch for a tweaked back. Nope, that doesn't sound right for a triathlon in a week. Perhaps you can celebrate Victoria day to give it a rest; no doubt you have a Canadian ancestor somewhere along the line. Hope you're walking by this morning.

Massive Kudos for fighting off the hunger - an unplanned and unwelcome visitor. What a reminder that your two hour exercise is one massive thwart to your body.

You need more than virtual chicken soup; emailing Tera's chiropractor to try to snap you back in shape.


Tera (twilit tera) - Neat that you have your next two goals. I, too, look forward to your new avatar. It is kinda odd to read someone's progress losing weight and thinking that I can't see it yet, LOL.

Like the name Genghis Grill. Think I'd like to eat there. Do you sit at long rough tables, on the backs of your captives, eating with your bare hands?


ChinaMaine - Ouch for the return of the fatigue; hope it's just a response to that marathon driving back from NJ, or the revenge of the Devil's Brother, LOL.

Drooling over the first lobster of the season. Your weren't going to catch it yourself were you?


Kim (bennyhannamama) - Kudos for starting the day so well with exercises and then skipping the chocolate covered banana at the fair to top things off.

Ouch that it's been "struggling." In the parlance of the new Beck book, The Complete Beck Diet for Life, you could write a memory card of your success at the fair for future encouragement.


Bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Yep, that scale dip sounds like a fluctuation all right, but I, too, always like my downward fluctuations for the adrenalin shot.

Yay for Chest, back, and ab work; that ab work makes everything else easier. I saw a young woman at my gym doing push ups last week; noted at the time that it was a rare sight. Kudos for doing stuff that isn't the easiest for you. That 30 days per rotation seems like a really good plan to beat getting bored.

Tomatoes are often hung, particularly on a patio or small back yard. In a garden, it's common to let them grow up in a cage or on a stake. We'll do the wire cage when they get some height.


Readers - resistance technique 8
Read your Advantages Deck.

After you read each card, ask yourself the following questions:• How important is this advantage to me?

• How important is eating this food to me?

• Which would I rather have: this advantage or this food?

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 101

Happy Monday, Beckies. Enjoy Victoria Day, my friends.

Yesterday was Syttende Mai, the 17th of May, Norwegian Constitutional Day. I had to look that up. I always knew Syttende Mai and that it was a Norwegian holiday, just not what it was. I am a Norwegian, but not a very good one.

Welcome back, Kim. Isn't it interesting that if we are not "doing well", we don't post. It's as if we deliberately step away from the lifeline that can help us. Even if no one can post that magic phrase or impart that perfect wisdom, just the act of posting brings us back into the fold and gets us "thinking like a thin person"..or closer, at least.

Still spring here......lol.........well, ya never know. This is Minnesoda, after all. And yes, BillBE, the loons were back on the lack the same day as ice off. Never fails. Great joy.

WI: +1
Pain: 0/2/4
Activity: 4 :D

Credits: Picking something active to do in celebration of 10 years marriage and the end of another semester :yay:, staying in control even during spurges :yay:, fulfilling desire for banana pudding by inventing my own home-made recipe :yay:, using "disciprine" to get out of bed and get to the athletic club this morning :yay: (even though the pool was closed and we ended up coming home)

Yesterday was absolutely gorgeous - simply could not have been a more perfect day for a trip to the nature preserve in Carrollton. We tromped around in the stream there, looking at the patterns of sediment in the bank, the dragonflies dancing, the fishies and skippers darting - it was almost like being a kid again.

Then in the distance we saw something that, on further reading was probably not a water mocassin and even if it were would probably not have bit us if we gave it a wide berth. But we didn't know either of these things at the time, so got out and walked a little bit more on the path (my hip was starting to bother me by this time).

Sushi for dinner. Not the good stuff, but anything's tasty with ginger or wasabi on it. :p

The scale is teasing me... that's okay. Drawing out the anticipation of my next goal will make it even more satisfying. Right? Right? That's why I'm going to be so on plan today!

Bucket: Congrats on the scale drop. What I find is that the progress is always two steps forward, one back. The scale will plunge, then resettle a little bit higher, but not as high as before, then plunge again. :) As long as the overall trend is the right direction, that's what counts.

:yay: for doing exercises your not particularly fond of. That requires quite a lot of disciprine.

That's awesome about the biking trails. I'd like to see some more bike paths all over, not that I get much opportunity for biking these days. I grew up in the pacific northwest, and in most towns there, you can bike almost anywhere you can drive, and a whole mess of places you can't drive.

I also moved around a lot when I was a kid. Continued the trend into adulthood too. I think it's gotten fairly typical.

onebyone: :yay: for scaling back, resting, getting yourself together. I'm sorry that it's taking physical symptoms to move you into that mode, but very glad you're taking steps now, before you do get ill. Let yourself catch your breath.

Robin: :yay: for exercise and gardening. About bread ... is it filling some role in your diet that something else could do? I find that bread usually makes a support for other things.

:yay: for cooking ahead!!

Anne: gentle :hug: and :crossed: for a quick recovery on your back! :(

The new do will probably look a lot like the old do... which has grown out to the point where I'm starting to get annoyed with it. :p I might dye my hair purple again though. :D

I look forward to hearing how things progress on the insomnia/back/health front. You've come so far post-partum - you deserve to be pain free.

ChinaMaine: :yay: for persevering on the Beck techniques. I'm sorry fatigue is so high!

I checked out the Boston Market menu, and they seem to have made some improvements since last time my family ate there. I should tell my aunt that there's no longer sugar in their turkey. :D

I don't find your concerns at all boring. It's actually kind of interesting the differences in sensitivities we all have. You probably have no problem at all with artificial colors, for example, where they reak havoc on my seratonin function.

I once thought that peoples needs were very similar, at least dietarily, but that's about as far from the truth as one can get. How is it that all of us with relatively similar bodies can have such different needs? Mindboggling.

Kim: :yay: for staying in control in the face of fair food! :yay: for continuing your Beck strategies!

Bill: :yay: for victory at the birthday party! :lol: at emailing my chiropractor to Anne. I'm sure she could help!

Genghis Grill is a treat! No captives to sit on, but I think they raid their menu from the local neighborhoods. :lol:

:wave: Maryblu!

Another quickie today ...sorry :(

I just realized its almost 3, and I still need to get tonnes done!

Worked out this morning with Michelle (Im gonna really hurt tomorrow)

100% op all the way! :cb: It feels so good to type that!

Going to get hubby to push my lazy butt out of bed in the mornings so I can get to the gym. There just isnt any way I'll get workouts like I did today, done in the evenings.

K....gotta run

Have an awesome day everyone!!

WI- unchanged. Read my cards and made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op.

Today is the first time in many weeks that I had to talk myself into exercise. A big part was that I was still pretty fatigued this AM; it got better as the day went by. But there was also a lack of resolve that I don’t like very much. I think traveling allowed me to strengthen my giving in muscle when it comes to exercise. At home, as long as I can get out of bed on time, I just do my exercise (no second thoughts…). On the road, I don’t have the same structure. I’m not sure if I need to be more rigid when traveling, or just anticipate that I’ll need to rebuild my habits when I get home.

Fatigue: 1.5 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue)

Kim It sounds like you made some really good choices at the fair - :bravo: I agree that posting and reading cards are fundamentally important. Reading my cards, making food and exercise plans and then posting here are the reasons I’m being successful both at losing weight and living a more healthy lifestyle. Without any one of those three things, I’m sure I’d be much less successful. Reading my cards while I drink my first cup of coffee, sets the tone for the day. Making plans gives me a game plan I’ve committed to that’ll make my day a success. Finally, posting allows me to remain accountable for both my successes and failures. In addition, I think helping others and reading about the good and bad in everyone’s day helps to put my efforts in a realistic context.

Bill You made stellar choices at the 50th b-day party yesterday. Kudos!! No I’m not a weekend lobster-man. :lol: Have you ever been to 5 Islands Lobster (http://www.fiveislandslobster.com/web/photos_scenic.html) in Georgetown? To me it is the quintessential Maine experience. And yes, I think the fatigue is probably due to the drive.

maryblu Happy spring!

Tera Seems like a low pain, high activity day. :woohoo: Who cares about being up by a pound when you’re having such a good day, right?

Sounds like you had a great place to be outdoors and celebrate your anniversary and end-of-semester – credit for not using food to celebrate! (and me likes wasabi!)

BTW: Simon Pegg is a brilliant Scotty. His part was pretty small though, so I think we’ll need the next movie to really show-case him. I thought Chekov was very good too…

Sugar in turkey?? – blech! You’re right artificial coloring isn’t bad for me, so long as there’s no gluten in it. Serotonin controls just about everything in the brain that dopamine doesn’t already have a lock on- so messing with Serotonin is pretty serious. Sorry you have to avoid something that’s in so many foods…

Robin :sunny: It’s so nice when you are happy.

Coaches/Buddies Eating was on plan today. I haven't been feeling my usual fixation with food lately. Don't know why, but I'm trying to soak it up while I can. History shows it won't last.

I dragged myself to a chiropractor today. I came out better. Not completely right, but I could at least stand up straight. Follow up on Wednesday. Thanks Tera for paving the way. Anyway, my race isn't completely out of the question yet. Back to work tomorrow.

ChinaMaine Mmmm, fish tacos sound wonderful. But here's hoping you get your first lobster soon. That's what I call good, healthy food!

Kim Sounds like you did a great job at the fair. Our halves are close enough together that we should be virtual training buddies. Well, once I can walk again.

Bill I think I'd try just about any clinically proven pill that doesn't mess with seratonin levels, even if I think I'm just a head case. Overweight/obesity is such a complex problem. It boggles my mind because the answer really is that simple, eat less and move more, but it is so DIFFICULT to do these two simple things.

Nice work at the party. You've had a lot of success with that lately. I feel compelled to warn you about the dangers of complacency. Not that you'll need it, but it bites us all sooner or later.

maryblu Happy Spring! Long time coming for you, and I hope it was worth the wait.

Tera Glad you got outdoors. Everything but the snake sounded fun. I'm just not a big snake fan.

I love purple hair!

RobinW To borrow Tera's phrase, you are going to be so on your exercise plan tomorrow morning!

Catch you all tomorrow.

Anne

ChinaMaine Always a crosspost, eh? :)

I think you should give yourself credit that you talked yourself into exercise. It does happen to us all, and you got it done! Good to see your fatigue levels are back down to manageable levels.

Anne

Well, I feel like crap having to admit all this to you guys, but I think one of the ways I'll be getting "back on track" is admitting to.. well, my support group that I've messed up.

:( I binged today. It wasn't a super duper zomg horrible binge that I've been through, and I can still walk without feeling sick but I know I just intook a lot of sugar and calories that will defiantly put me back a little. I had lots and lots of cake, a little bit of chips, a slice of cinnamon bread, and pizza. It all started with the pizza yesterday, because I knew that I'd be going "off the plan" of my goal of eating clean by allowing myself to eat pizza, but I figured that it would be okay since I could fit it in with my calories, and today I deliberatly "allowed" myself to eat extra pizza since I had the extra calories to spend, but I guess that somehow translated into "free-for-all" considering I didn't get an intense workout today to balance it out.

It feels like I acted too quickly on my impulses and didn't even listen to any negative thoughts while I was having them, I felt like I wasn't even thinking while I was doing it. Auto-pilot, as they would call it. I'm not giving up, but the general shame of having to admit this to a bunch of people I don't know very well will defiantly keep me on track for awhile.

I gotta try harder for me! I don't have a choice, my health isn't an option and binging takes a toll on my physical and mental health. XP I will defiantly be back on track tomorrow. Guh I feel gross. I'm just glad I learned something from this small set-back, though.

A little question for you guys though: I know there's a section in the book for Food-pushers, and my dad is kind of a food pusher. Being a minor, I live under his rule right now. I'm afraid to reject any food from him because he accuses me of having bulimia or anorexia since I don't really eat with the family (the way they eat drives me nuts!!) and I generally eat smaller, frequent meals then he does. Which is mostly why I decided to try to budget in the pizza. However, "pizza" does not fit within my goals of clean eating at all. The book doesn't really give me much advice to deal with people who can really make your life **** if you don't accept food... Any advice or tips on this one?

I hope you all are doing better then I am. <3

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Lunch was served at a noontime meeting - sandwiches wrapped in huge flour tortillas. Off the top of my head, I remembered that those contain a zillion more calories than one would think. Not a problem, I just took a fork and ate the insides, including some good salad stuff. CREDIT moi. (I still missed the lunch I'd have made for myself; Oh Well.)

maryblu - Happy Syttende Mai (a day late).

hmmmm... You sorta take pride in your accuracy in predicting ice out, but it seems the loons are pretty good at it also. So, you're smart like a loon, LOL.


Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for "I still need to get tonnes done!"

I think I see the problem. It's the "tonnes." You take so much time typing all those unnecessary letters that your day is shorter, LOL. Think of how much time you'd have if you put the color back in colour and only had a ton of work to do.

Hope this helps.


Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for getting yourself straight to a chiropractor; no grass grows under your feet. Wish you speedy healing.

Yay for the lack of interest in eating; you gotta convert that into a pound or two before it returns, LOL.

Thanks for the reminder about complacency. I've experienced that even in little ways. For example, I noticed that the jar of granola that lasts me two weeks was empty two days early - meaning that I've let my portion grow ever so slightly. Not a big deal, but just a reminder that I'm capable of pushing my boundaries in every possible opportunity.


Tera (twilit tera) - Congrats on your 10th Anniversary!! May you have many more.

Kudos for tromping about in the stream letting the inner kid out. Water is sooooo meant to be played in.

Guarding my garden from your Genghis Grill raiders, LOL.


ChinaMaine - Yay for coming down from that fatigue peak. Ouch for the wavering resolve with exercise. I, too, have that problem with any period of skipped exercise; getting back on plan is like starting from scratch. Know you'll be able to do it.

Thanks for the link to 5 Islands Lobster. Going to a Maine lobster shack on the pier is indeed a quintessential Maine experience. I just love sitting next to a local family who bring a basket with their tablecloth, silverware, salad, milk and wine, and dessert.


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - BIG Ouch for the extra food, particularly for losing the feeling of staying on plan. Kudos for coming right back here to make yourself accountable. You've got such a clear understanding that that's behind you and today you're just on plan.

Beck does have a section on food pushers in The Beck Diet Solution - don't have my copy right here, but her index is pretty good. That's a hard one when it's your father and you live at home, particularly for parents who still feel they are trying to help. Only suggestion from here is to make your eating plan visible; explain why you know it to be healthy and show that you're on it. That should go a long way, but it's still likely go be difficult. Good luck with that.


Readers - resistance technique 9
Do a negative fast-forward.
Imagine, in datail, how you will feel 10 minutes after eating the unplanned food. Visualize the situation: Will you feel weak and out of control? Disappointed with yourself? Nervous about getting back in control? Hopeless about ever losing weight? Discouraged that you have undermined your hard work? Remind yourself how many times you've given in before and how you felt afterward. Ask yourself, Will eating this unplanned food really be worth a few moments of pleasure?

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 101

WI: -1
Pain: 0/1/5
Activity: 4

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, building our new mattress :yay:, :swim: :yay:, staying focused on my to-do list :yay:, vitamins :yay:, shoes :yay:, C appointment :yay:

I've been doing so well lately that we've decided to cut my appointments with C down to 1/week. We're still doing frequent myofascial work at home, since she showed us how.

I spent the better part of yesterday afternoon putting all the layers together in our new mattress. It's got a layer of stiff foam at the bottom and around the sides, an air mattress in the center, and memory foam over the top. We saved a bundle getting one with some assembly required and the comfort level is unbelievable! I was able to sleep comfortably no matter which way I rolled! Even onto the painful hip! Now the only thing waking me is my cat!

Robin: Varoooom! :wave: :yay: for pushing through the desire to sleep in and enlisting hubby's aid to get you exercising! Super :yay: for 100% OP!

ChinaMaine: :yay: for your OP day! :yay: for pushing through YOUR desire to skip exercise! Either approach is valid. There've been weekends at Mom's where I've eaten something I normally wouldn't, fully appreciating that there will be some work to get back to a more automated healthy response. Then when I start working my way back to "autopilot on plan" I find it's easier because I've already accepted the reality of having to do it.

OTOH, why work your way back to a strong resistance muscle if you can maintain it while away? Which approach would be easier for you?

Happy for you that fatigue is subsiding!

Anne: Hooray that you weren't struggling with food yesterday. Maybe it's the preoccupation with your back causing it? :yay: for getting to the chiropractor and I'm glad it did you some good. C will be tickled pink when I tell her that my account of our work inspired someone else to get help.

I've never had the automatic aversion to snakes that a lot of folks have. My mother has explained hers very well - she still remembers her mother taking a garden hoe to rattlesnakes in the back yard when she was a child.

I grew up in a nice cool zone, where nothing is all that poisonous or aggressive. I used to walk around barefoot and carry garter snakes around. They liked to wrap around my fingers for warmth.

Bucket: :yay: for admitting your binge to us. You only just got here, and you're already trusting your diet buddies with the whole truth - that's huge. It sounds to me like there were some triggers... something to do with either the situation, or the pizza, that signaled the binge. Where were you? What were you doing when this started? Now that you're back on track, perhaps it's a good time to write down a plan for coping with that situation, so that you have something already in place before facing it again. Most importantly, give yourself credit for getting right back on track!

Dealing with parents is difficult. And it's even more difficult for people who don't know your parents to give you advice for dealing with them. I was raised by my relatively sane mother, so I know Bill's plan would work with her. If your dad is relatively sane, it should work on him too.

Basically, involve him in your diet/exercise plan as much as possible. Show him what it is you're eating, how much and how often. Show him the materials you're using that support your current plan. Assure him that you are not going to become a rail, that you just want to get your body to a healthy weight range and stay there. Ask him to hold you accountable for getting in shape. The more information he has about your plans, the less worried for you I'm sure he'll be.

You say that your Dad could make life **** for you if you don't accept his food, but that means he could also become a really powerful ally, if you involve him in your plan.

Bill: :yay: for eating around the huge refined flour tortilla! :lol: through your responses to Robin and me. I just love the laughter I get out of your posts! You're so mirthy!

Beckies,

Continue to be soooooooo pumped about spring and so over being complacent about this extra fat. thanks for the reminders about complacency BillBE and Anne.

Bucket, we are going to get along fine. Your bucket joke is my kinda funny. My favorite of all time joke, well, at least my favorite joke suitable for all audiences is the one about the atoms walking out of the bar. You know it? I will bet you do. You're the same kinda crazy as me. I think BillBE had a great idea about showing your food plan to your family. Not only does it help you defend from food pushing, but it forces you to plan, write it down, etc..all the Beck steps that guarentee success. Plus..........you get a new set of diet coaches, accountability folk. Yes? Yes!! BillBE, I think that was one of your best!

I think controlling/stopping that autopilot see-food-eat-food mindless eating is one of the most important aspects of TBDS. "the thought comes first."
That is true enough; recognizing the thought and buying yourself enough time to make a conscious decision is the key to success. It is covered in Chapter 2, page 26. Just realized I need some kind of quick reference guide to the book.

As for the loon/ice out thang, BillBE, well......yes, the loons are infallible, and that's why I follow the loons......yassee, I am a "Loonie" as well as a Beckie. And anyone who knows me will second that emotion. :)

I can't believe no one's posted in 12.5 hours. I hope everyone is okay out there!!

WI- down .75 lbs. Read my cards and made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. :df: ho-hum…

Today was just a lovely day. It was 65 and sunny. We had orioles, rose breasted grosbeaks, hummingbirds, goldfinches, and nuthatches. Of course we also had a variety of squirrels horning in on the bird’s rightful food… ;) At lunchtime I walked out to fill the feeders and waved to a couple of fisherman working our cove. This is why I feel blessed working from home. :D

Fatigue: 1 :woohoo: (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue)

NSV: I seem to forget my NSVs all the time, but they really as rewarding as the Scale Victories… I was able to buy ‘real’ size 16 pants before I went on my business trip. :yay: It gives me a huge feeling of success to be able to buy clothes that aren’t plus-sized. Yesterday, I noticed that the new jeans are quite loose, after only 10 days. (Well loose in the butt, my waist is always the last to loosen up in clothes.) If I have time before I leave for my Mom’s on Thursday, I want to try on some size 14s so I can see how much further I need to go… I didn’t think I’d be in 14s before fall, so this is quite nice to even think about.

Anne We do seem to be cross-posting quite a bit the last week or so. :) I’m glad the C helped your back and that you’re feeling better. I hope you can still do your race. Glad to hear you don’t have food fixation yesterday – do you usually? I hadn’t really caught that before. And Thanks, I do give myself credit for getting upstairs for the last 10 mins of exercise. It’s just a slippery slope once my giving-in muscle senses my weakness…

bucket (with a purpose) :hug: Give yourself tons of credit for posting. I know when I’ve been off-plan and I feel shame, I really don’t want to post. But until I do, I don’t get back op again. Of course, posting is one of the best ways I know to get back on plan, so I know it’s important to just do it. Maybe practice will make it easier, I haven’t been doing Beck long enough to know for sure.

It feels like I acted too quickly on my impulses and didn't even listen to any negative thoughts while I was having them, I felt like I wasn't even thinking while I was doing it. Auto-pilot, as they would call it.
This is the toughest situation for me. So far I can only stop it when I realize ahead of time I’m going to be in a situation that’s problematic. If I make a specific plan for that kind of situation, it usually helps. I may not be exactly op, but for now I’m happy to just do better. 

Bill Kudos for skipping the tortilla. BTW - that family with the basket, tablecloth, margaritas, their own plates and real silverware, salt and pepper, just might be my hubbie and me. (If there’s dessert then it’s definitely not us!) If I see a van Gogh facsimile, I’ll wave and say ‘hi’. :D

Tera :yay: for being down weight-wise. Sorry your pain level is up a bit, but your activity level is still good – credit! I can see from your accomplishments that you are doing well, I’m so glad it means you can see the C a bit less. Wow – building a mattress – kudos!

Yeah – I’m not sure which approach is best for me. If I had wii everywhere, then it’d be a no brainer. But when I’m without the wii it seems more difficult to get in 45+ minutes a day. I don’t know if it’s ‘excuses’ on my part or valid shifts in priority. That said, I can just go into each trip saying I pay each day by finding 45 minutes for exercise or I pay when I get home in getting back into the groove…

:wave: blah! busy day!

op all the way!

Well, almost. Chinamaine, your bird report prompted me to recall mine. On my travels today, which included a detour due to high water, yielded mostly white feathered friends.

Two Trumpeter Swans in a pond.......then, a flock of Pelicans swimming and zooming around on a lake, then, an Egret sitting at the edge of a pond. I was thinking all that was missing was a Sea Gull......and sure enough, Jonathan Livingston appeared. Life got a little more colorful once I got home with the appearance of several male American Redstarts and the wonderful, melodic, amazing Orioles.

Great evening gardening, balling the dawgs, and assessing winter kill damage. Apple trees OK, Creeping Phlox, not so much. Oh, well.

Thanks guys for your support. :3 Sure enough, I'm back on track again and feeling a lot better. I weighed myself today (which I usually don't do after binges because it used to really set a totally bad mood for the entire day) and... I'm 157. It's still under 158, where I was starting! Woohoo! This is a surprise, I was expecting my weight to go WABOOOM up to 160 due to water retention from all the sodium I inhaled.

In regards to my dad, we once had a fight about it earlier this year, and I gave him a list of how many calories I'm eating, links and resources to calculating the healthy amount of calories for a teenager, and what foods I would like to eat. I haven't heard any direct "your starving yourself!!" since then, BUT I do get passive-agressive remarks, and continued attempts to try and sabotage me the best he can with treats like chips, cookies, cakes, pizzas. If I tell him to stop buying it, he'll accuse me of being too extreme with my diet. :( I can avoid pizza by not making it in the first place, and emptying it into the trash or giving it to my brother when I'm done. That was my fault not my Dad's, but I feel he's a big part in my pressure/excuse to eat things I know I don't really want in my body. I can defiantly talk to my mom about this though, and I know she's really good at talking my dad into leaving me alone about this sort of thing.

:yay:
Credit to me today for: getting back on track, doing a little extra cardio today with the extra energy I had stored, not freaking out and being irrational about my slip-up (rare for me!!)

ChinaMaine - Woohoo for new pant size!! Major kudos for that! The weather sounds awesome. Maybe you'll be slipping into size 14 shorts sometime before the summer is up? Either way, being able to fit into size 16 pants is a huge accomplishent!!

maryblu - Oh lord. I laughed at that joke once. Once! The second best joke ever is the tree joke. Have you heard it?
"Hey ask me if I'm a tree!"
"..... Are you a tree?"
"No."
"...."
You might burst into giggles after a minute of the "whatthecrapdidthatmean" stare. I did go back to the Beck book and review it all after the auto-pilot binging. I made response cards, and I think I need to start reading my Advantages card BEFORE dinner instead of after. ^__^ I freakin' love this book. I can probably read it 5 times and not at all find it boring or dull.

twilit tera - Careful! lol. The comfier the matress the easier it is to throw the alarm clock across the room and go back to bed in the morning! Kudos for sticking to your to-do list!! That's a toughie to do.

bill - I *love* doing that to burritos and wraps. The tortillas never taste as good as you'd think, and the inside is where the flavor is at (which the tortilla takes away.) Kudos for thinking to do that!

Coaches/Buddies Another on plan day. I seem to be doing mental planning this week, but as long as it's working, and I'm willing to start writing it down again if things get off track, I suppose that is OK. Some back pain today, but as of a couple of hours ago, I noticed it felt completely OK. Maybe something popped back? Still being careful, but hey, cool! Follow up with the chiro tomorrow.

Bucket I eat pizza about once a week. I eat a piece or two and try to pair it up with a big salad. It is also possible to do a healthier pizza. Many places will do whole wheat crust, extra sauce, easy on the cheese, and a mound of veggie toppings. Don't know if that would satisfy your dad, or you, but there is more than one way to do these things. Some work, and some don't.

Bill Nice work on skipping the tortilla. That is probably the least interesting part of the lunch anyway, right?

Tera Lots of dancing purple today. Good to see. Your new mattress sounds cool.

We grew up with lots of snakes, including lots of copperheads and water moccasins. Never much liked them, although I mostly just try to avoid them these days. At least the rattlers around here let you know, instead of the water moccasins, which would just come visit. Yikes.

maryblu Controlling the autopilot is a fantastic description of what I do CT for. If I can just get the stupids out of the decision making process I do fine, but if I don't work it, I'm always asking "Why did I do that?"

Sounds like your spring is shaping up!!

ChinaMaine Nice work on the 16s and hope the 14s work out for you too!

Yeah, food gets a lot of my attention. Trying to undo some old habits. They seem to last something like forever, and I'm wondering if my brain will ever get rewired. I'm always grateful that I don't seem to have normal caloric needs instead of those typical of the "reduced obese" (see the recent leptin discussion), but always shake my head in wonder as people say their cravings for junk subside. If only. Didn't work that way for me, but I did develop, and redevelop recently with BDS/CBDL strategies that help me deal with them.

Robin :high: for on plan.

Getting tired suddenly! See you all tomorrow.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Ploughing through a crunch at the office that's throwing me off. The good news is that I don't think of the vending machines as a quick fix. CREDIT moi for that. Need to work a bit at catching up on sleep that's taking the hit, as is walking. I did walk after work when all I wanted to do was veg out - CREDIT moi, although the walk was a tad brief - Oh Well.

Have been enjoying my NSV of being able to put my socks on standing up; CREDIT moi. (OK, it's not that hard since I do it one foot at a time.) But I had no chance of doing that before I started my journey.


Loonie (maryblu) - You wrote, "my favorite joke suitable for all audiences is the one about the atoms walking out of the bar." So are you going to tell us the joke or what?

Thanks for the reminder that "the thought comes first." I do carry the fear that I'll just walk up to a pizza and wolf down the whole thing before I think. Not so; I will think about eating it and will have the opportunity to work some Beck resistance techniques.

So jealous of your Trumpeter Swans - we only have the d*rn Mute Swans around here. As well as your white pelicans - a flock of those would make the Boston Globe. We did have "wonderful, melodic, amazing Orioles" this weekend - both Baltimore and Orchard. Can't believe that someone other than me (who has two copies) remembers Jonathan Livingston Seagull.


Robin (RobinW) - Waving back. Can't do better than "op all the way!"

Sorry that you guys had to relive the trauma of your airplane crash with three days of hearings. I, for one, wish that cockpit conversations were not replayed in public. The families don't need that.


Anne (wndranne) - That's an amazing recovery on your back; keeping fingers crossed that it stays that good while it heals.

Kudos for being on plan. Again. Ho-hum.


Tera (twilit tera) - That's a lot of happy purple!! Congrats on the lower average pain level. Would seem like your chiropractor is doing magic there. Kudos for taking over doing some of it yourselves at home.

That mattress sounds fantastic. Neat that you assembled it yourself - not bad for a person who could barely get out of bed just a few weeks ago.


ChinaMaine - Yep, MONSTER WOOHOO for fatigue level 1 all day. That's great news.

Amazing that you have multiple Rose-breasted Grosbeaks. A single is a good spotting around here. Last week we saw two Bobolinks in a tree near here - a first; we usually only see them in a big meadow on Plum Island (a NWR an hour north of Boston). Don't know what was up with them.


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Congrats that the scale treated you kindly. Sounds like you've done the best thing by giving your father all that info and have a good plan in place to enlist your mom to help you out. It's a big step to get the difficult food out of our face. LOL at feeding the pizza to your brother - now that's a convenience.

Thanks for the reminder that I don't need to eat the flour tortilla on my burrito. I just wolf that down since I think it belongs there.


Readers - resistance technique 10
Do a positive fast-forward.
Imagine, in detail, how you will feel 10 minutes after resisting the unplanned food. Visualize how you will feel: Strong and in control? Proud of yourself? Hopeful that you will get to your goal? Delighted that you exercised your resistance muscle? See yourself tomorrow morning when you get on the scale. Think about how good you will feel that you didn't give in. Once you see the entire picture, ask yourself, Which seems better: eating or not eating unplanned food?

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 101

Ah, BillBE,

"You wrote, "my favorite joke suitable for all audiences is the one about the atoms walking out of the bar." So are you going to tell us the joke or what?"


I am sooo glad you asked. I figured everyone knew it. It is soooooo old. Well, then, that may explain it. You and I are the ones of the "ripe" vintage. Btw, I, too, have 2 copies of JLS!! Couldn't find my original copy, thought I had given it to someone, so bought another for a song, then found the first one. In my hippie days I gave that as a graduation present. These days I give Victor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, hoping that it will get read someday..hopefully sooner rather than later. But I digress. This is for Bucket:

2 atoms are walking out of a bar and the first 1 says, "Oh, no, I left one of my electrons back in the bar!"

The second one asks, "Are you sure?"

The first one nods, "Yes. I'm positive."

Enjoy your day, Beckies!

Coaches/Buddies: Aggh, how did I miss a day posting already??!! Yesterday was crazy busy and because it was beautiful (yeah!) my kids were outside all day, which makes it very difficult for me to get on the computer. In addition, my sister is here visiting and my father arrives on Friday. I always find it very hard to stay in my routine when there are visitors here. Anyway, I finally tried running for the first time yesterday (after a long hiatus to let my hips/knees heal and recover) and it went very well! I'm going to take things very slowly, but I want to make sure that I'm consistent too.

I've been doing everything kind of 1/2 assed, but at least I haven't thrown it all away. I'm still dealing with the death of my brother (it's been 8 months now and is first just beginning to feel real) and I'm still completely enmeshed in all this divorce stuff. I think I'm putting this out there to remind myself that given the circumstances, I'm really not doing badly at all. I have to realize that things are tough and I'm doing the best I can. It's definitely not an excuse to give up or not try, but it is a reason to give myself a break and realize that there's only so much I can handle at once! Okay, so thanks for listening to my little pep-talk to myself :)

Things I have been doing well:

Weighing in :broc:
Keeping track of the calories I'm consuming :broc:
Exercising :broc:
Counting my "mini" binges and not letting them get too out of control (can't quite give myself a broc for that)

Posting here :broc:
Reading my Advantages Deck x 1 :broc:

Things to work on:

Reading my Response Cards regularly
Reading my Advantages Deck 2 x per day
Eating consciously and slowly
Posting here more consistently

Hope to see everyone again soon.

BTW, I want to say that again I looked at the replies to me and again found it very helpful. (Which of course makes me feel badly that I haven't responded with personals to others-- but I'm going to try to let go of that and know I will when I am capable.)


Anne, great idea about the virtual training buddies and I hope you're feeling better really soon. Please don't push yourself, it's not worth it. Remember, we want to run for life, not just for this one race, so make sure you take care of your body and heal completely. I started yesterday with 5 min walk/ 5 min run x2 and then 5 min. walk cool down. It killed me to walk (so boring to me!), but I'm going to do that for 2 more days (as suggested by my running coach) and then increase slowly from there. So if, it makes you feel any better about being sidelined, I'm kind of starting from scratch. Feel free to PM me or email me klgreenstein (at) gmail.com to discuss running and virtual training together.

Good Morning :sunny:

Its a beautiful day here in Buffalo, and its suppose to get up to 25C today! :cb: I may even get out of here early so I can go home and work on the yard!! :broc:

Bill~ you're too funny....you sounded just like my husband, wasting time adding all those extra letters in my words :lol:
...about those recordings from the flight crash. I have such strong feelings about how those were presented!! I truly believe with all that I am, that those should have been kept for ONLY the people that wanted to hear them. Yes let them be accessable to who ever wants to hear them, but I do not think they should have been played on the news the way they were!
Yah for your NSV!! :cb: :cb:

Anne~ Yah for something popping back!!

Kim~ Yah for all the :broc: !!! You are doing great!

Tera~ Awesome for the new bed!! I hadnt even thought about that, but I bet it makes a huge difference. A better nights sleep would help alot in dealing with the daily pain. Good for you!

ChinaMaine~ "I was able to buy ‘real’ size 16 pants before I went on my business trip" That is just awesome!! :cb: :cheer:

bucket~ Big Kudos for getting back on track!! "doing a little extra cardio today with the extra energy I had stored," This is great too!! I always find it amazing how much energy I have stored up when I think I should be really tired! Good going!

Got my workout in this morning....but I did it on the treadmill at home. I figured it was a good time saving plan for today since I have meetings this afternoon. Going to the gym would have gotten me back to the shop a little later than I wanted. The only thing with walking at home, its too friggin hot!!! Hubs still has the heat on :rolleyes:

Tomorrow dh goes to his networking meeting, so he'll drop me off at the gym on the way....this gives me lots of time. Plus he pushes me out of the bed! :lol: (well, he actually bribes me with coffee) :lol3:

Ive been getting on the scale like a good girl. The last 2 weeks havent showed any loss. Just lots of up and downs...all within a 6 lb range. I was starting to get discouraged. But I had Michelle do my measurements this week, and Im 2inches less than I was when I started. But the weight is the same. Ok......I'll take that :D This takes some getting used to.

Im off........have a wonderful day everyone!

WI: -2.5 NEW LOW MINIGOAL
Pain: 0/1/5
Activity: 3

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, water :yay:, :swim: :yay:, vitamins :yay:, shoes :yay:

Had a peculiar attack of insomnia last night. My head was just too busy when I went to bed last night. I finally nodded off around midnight thirty.

The book I was reading didn't help. "Driven to Distraction" by Dr.s Hallowell and Ratey. My aunt gave me this book because she believes she has ADD. From their description I'd say about 1/4 of the adult world does as well. I really think we've gone overboard with diagnoses in this country. So what if some of us think better in motion, prefer working multiple projects at once, or need a lot of structure to complete tasks? Why does this have to be a "disorder?" This describes me to a T but I don't think of it as something wrong with me, it's just the way I operate! It's just another case of 'experts' telling us how we 'should' be and then trying to 'treat' us, instead of letting us be who we are!

Ack. soapbox. off-topic at that.

I checked my grades just a moment ago (the Internet is truly amazing) and discovered that my 4.0 is intact! Biology did not trip me up after all!

I'm going to reward myself by being totally on plan today!

Maryblu: I didn't know the atom joke. Thank you for sharing it! :lol: The only joke I can ever remember is one my dad told me about the strings in a bar (hence that's the one I tell every chance I get)... I'm sure you must know that one!

ChinaMaine: :lol: It was quiet in here for a while! Must have been a busy day for everyone (not just Robin ;))

:yay: for another ho-hum-completely-on-plan-day! Hooray for working from home! It's been gorgeous down here too! Huzzah for your pants!! NSV's are rewarding, and the warm fuzzy feeling I get from them last longer than the numbers being good to me. Hope this one sticks with you til you're in your size 14s!

About the exercise while away from home... I know the Wii isn't the most portable device, but... could you carry it with you? Probably not if you're flying... just a thought.

Robin: Varoooom! :wave: :yay: for OP. :woo: for the inches lost - a sure sign that you're doing the right thing for your body!

Bucket: :yay: for jumping right back on track. Sorry it's so difficult with your dad, but at least Mom's an ally. Who knows, maybe as your Dad gets more used to your healthier lifestyle, he'll see the benefits and hop on the bandwagon?

No dangers of throwing my alarm clock... I quit the alarm clock months ago! ;) I'm taking college classes online, and hubby has a flexible schedule at work. We try to get to bed relatively early (around 9:30 and no later than 10) and wake up whenever we do. Best decision we've made in a long time, as our combined stress level has gone down quite a bit since.

Anne: Hooray for the back pain being gone and :yay: that you've been able to stick to your mental plans.

Bill: :yay: that you have overcome the power of the vending machines! :yay: for your socks!

Kim: :yay: for a good run! :yay: for giving yourself permission to be human and take time to recover from the losses you've experienced. Thank you for pep-talking yourself here, and giving us the opportunity to agree with you!

:grouphug: to my beckbuddies!

Tera, yes, of course I know the string joke. Second favorite joke suitable for all audiences.

You guys never wanna get me started on the other kind!;)

Hi coaches

I have good news and I have bad news, one connected to the other.

Good news: I've talked to all family members. Bad news: I've talked to them because my aunt died on Monday. Really suddenly. I haven't been feeling it much yet though. I am really good at taking painful feelings and sliding them away from view. Old family survival skill. In fact I was getting a bit worried as I hadn't shed a tear. Very strange. And then I got an email from a cousin who wondered if there was an online obit. I went looking and there it was, with her picture and that rattled me to my bones. My aunt's picture + obituary do not go together.

I don't like this dying business.

My aunt though was ill for about 2 hours. She was living in nursing home and had some dementia, but not too bad, she would wander and then she had trouble breathing. She went to the hospital, her sons visited, she felt better, they left for lunch and she died while they were gone. Luckily my mother visted with her the night before. I am VERY grateful for that.

There is visitation tomorrow night which we won't make it to, but we'll be there for the bulk of Friday, from 9:30 in the afternoon. That, my friends, will be when I am sad. Very sad. Can't let go until then it seems...

I am still reading the Pollan book and thinking of stenciling on my bright yellow kitchen wall his words: Eat food. Mostly plants. But not too much. Simple as this seems it may be the toughest way for me to eat. And yet if I could only do those three things it'd be enough I suspect.

I guess that's where I am at. I'm kind of neglecting the ceramic room. I'm sort of worried of being really disconbobulated after the funeral. I am worried I am going to f*** up the new connections with my siblings. But I have to say, hearing all about my sister's Key West move and her adventures is very entertaining. I can't hear enough about it.

Good and bad. Good and bad.

I'll keep in touch.

Oh and robinw I wanted to ask you, since you mentioned living in St. Catherines do you know, is this area smoggy? I was looking up smog statistics for Windsor and it's worse than Toronto... what's your experience of the niagara area? I want to avoid smog.

:wave: have a good evening. be well.

Hi onebyone! I found st. catherines extremely humid. More so than it is here in Buffalo. I honestly cant tell you about the smog. I pretty much worked 50-60 hours a week indoors. Any and ALL time off was spent OUT of st. catherines. Usually over in brantford. Its pretty over there. My parents are in waterloo, and I love it there too when I visit. But its alot more expensive to live there than in brantford or st. catherines.

But I can tell you if you are sensitive to atmospheric (sp?) changes, st. catherines/niagara is really bad for that. The pressure in my head some days was just brutal. I didnt really know what it was...I was thinking it was stress from the job. But it turned out it had to do with the mountain, and the air that hits it and rolls right back. My asst. told me to take tylenol head cold stuff and I was surprised how well it relieved it.

So that is something to think about. It didnt bother many ppl, but it seemed to affect those of us who had allergies.

I hope that helps a bit.

So sorry for the loss of your aunt, Onebyone. :hug:

So sorry for the loss of your aunt, Onebyone. :hug:

Thanks maryblu.

Busy day. On track and doing very well over here. Kudos to me for getting through a workout despite feeling lazy and having to bring down my intensity from my usual bounciness to.. less bouncy. My upper foot area on my right side and both my calves/shins aren't too happy with me. ~0~ I'm hoping some good Yoga this Friday or Saturday will work it out. Aside from that, nothing out of the ordinary. I'll probably have something more to say tomorrow. But for now: Stephen King here I come!


onebyone - My heart goes out to you for your loss of your aunt. :hug: I absolutely must give you kudos for seeing some positive in your current situation. A lot of people can't do that. I just hope that everything settles and you get more good news from this point on! :)

Coaches/Buddies I've got to be quick tonight. Wore pre-DS pants to work today. Size 14s. Getting there. Eating was on plan, until dinner, where I thought I made reasonable choices at the restaurant but apparently not. Lesson: look at the nutrition info before and not after. Oh Well. It was good.

Back is still better. May try to get out and walk tomorrow.

:wave: to everyone. I'll do real personals tomorrow.

onebyone I'm very sorry about your aunt.

Kim You are indeed doing a great job under difficult circumstances.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Eating OP. Went to the gym but did a reduced session when I felt a twang in my back. Don't like backing off for a good reason because I excel in making up reasons for backing off. Oh Well.

Was delightful out walking after work without a jacket; gotta love the warm weather. What we need locally is some rain; my tomato plants are thirsty.


maryblu - Good grief! You actually told the electron joke. In a public forum. I'm afraid that the string joke can't be far behind, LOL. But, encouraged by you and your colleague bucket (bucketwithapurpose) here's my humility joke from the sixties:

An electron walks into a bar. Now the bartender, who's got a PhD from MIT in high energy physics, is ecstatic. Big chance to learn the truth.

"So, Mr. electron, do you really obey Dirac's equation?"

"Who's Dirac?"


onebyone - Sending warm condolences for the loss of your aunt. Yep, this "dying business" stirs up all our emotions. I wish you well dealing with the "painful feelings."

Congrats for talking with all your family; Kudos for seeing this as an opportunity, despite the pain.

Like your idea of stenciling the Pollan quote on your kitchen wall.


Robin (RobinW) - Presumably you won't see this this morning because you're on the way to the gym; Kudos for planning that.

Congrats for losing inches; that's some good NSV there all right.


Anne (wndranne) - Congrats on wearing your pre-pregnancy pants to work. Yay for NSV's.

Ouch for late recognition of restaurant evil; it's amazing to me that food with normal sounding names and descriptions can hold so many calories.


Tera (twilit tera) - Congrats on the new low scale reading (although down 2.5 in one reading does sound like there's a little scale jitter in there). Do you have a reward in mind for the new MINIGOAL?

hmmmmm ... I'm a fan of Hallowell and Ratey's Driven to Distraction. When I was trying to come to grips with my own kids performance, I read a bunch of similar books. Theirs was one of the best. I liked that simply recognizing ADD like behavior is part of the strategy for finding behaviors to move forward in life anyway. If I remember correctly, they have a bunch of strategies to help focus, some of them remind me of CBT.


Kim (bennyhannamama) - Sending supportive thoughts for dealing with the loss of your brother. With all the stuff in your life, it would be easy to find an excuse to wander off plan; Kudos for recognizing that and giving "little pep-talk to myself."


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Kudos for sticking with your exercise despite the "lazy" feelings.

Feel free to gloat that you've started something with your bucket joke, LOL.


Readers - resistance technique 11
Distract yourself.
This will help you wait out the urge to eat. Get out the Distractions Box you created in Chapter 3. First, start the activity that you think will be most distracting. If you finish it and the urge to eat has not gone away, try a second activity and so on. Remember that watching TV and reading are often not distracting enough (especially if you are used to eating while engaging in these activities); listening to music helps some people but not others.

When you contact your Diet Buddy from now on, report on which techniques helped the most.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 102

I wrote my report last night and the personals this AM. I’m on vacation until next Wednesday, so I’ll be posting when I can… My Mom likes to get up around 9 AM so I’m hoping to exercise and post in the mornings…

WI- down .25 lbs. to New Low! Read my cards and made a plan. Food – op, Exercise – op. :df:

Today was a good day. I was busy at work and was not fatigued, so I could rise to the challenge. It was overcast here, but not dreary. So it was really lovely in a soft way.

Fatigue: 1.2 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue)

NSV: I did 2 balance tests on the wii. I had done them 6 months ago when I first got the wii and scored abysmally – 40% and 55%. For 3.5 months, I’ve been doing yoga every day to improve my balance. Like Bill, I’ve been thrilled in the last 2 weeks that I can put my socks on standing up. It sounds so silly, I know. But every day I preen like a peacock because I can put my socks on standing up. :D 2 months ago, I couldn’t do it at all. And I scored 70% on both my wii balance tests. I still shake and wobble as some yoga exercises; can’t do some at all. But, I’ll conquer them all eventually!

maryblu For all that I live on a lake, I don’t see many water birds. I do see loons almost every day. And cormorants and herons are around. But egrets are a treat, and I never have seen a swan or pelican here. I have bird-envy!

Atom joke - :lol:

bucket (with a purpose) It sounds like giving your Dad some specific info on what you eat and why has helped in the past. (I’m sorry it hasn’t stopped the passive aggressive comments…) So Bill’s idea may help now. I give you a lot of credit for persevering in the face of such challenges.

Credit for working out when you were feeling lazy!

Anne I’m glad the back is feeling even better. I find that I can do mental planning for a few days at a time, and then I start slipping. Having something off-plan here and there. But I’m a believer in doing what works, so if this works, why not?

It’s really too bad that your cravings for ‘junk’ haven’t subsided in the face of being on Beck. Most of mine have, until I slip. Having such cravings must make every day a real challenge…

Size 14 :woohoo: You always seem to be right ahead of me. Thanks for the draft! ;)

:lol: for looking at nutritional info after dinner – I’ve had the shock many times myself.

Bill I try to think of exercise as ‘no choice’ and do it before work. Credit! for doing it after work when you were worn down -- getting up and walking showed commitment.

I think it’s so funny that you wrote your sock NSV when I’ve been meaning to write about the same issue for about a week now. :lol: But it is incredibly rewarding isn’t it? I hope the ability to enjoy small triumphs so thoroughly is not indicative of a small mind. ;)

I’m doing my personals in the AM today. I’m watching the sunrise and have seen multiple rose breasted grosbeaks already. This is the first year we’ve had so many, and I don’t know why. We don’t have anything special in the feeder. I’m going to have to look up bobolinks – I’m not even sure what they look like… What’s an NWR?

Kim It’s so nice to hear your stories about time with your kids. It gives you an opportunity for spontaneous exercise, and they really put the rest of life’s craziness in perspective. And it sounds like you do have a lot going on. Credit! For realizing that and adjusting your expectations of yourself.

In spite of all that, you are in a groove it seems – credit!

Robin I’m flying to Buffalo today and it seems like it’ll be a really nice weekend. I can’t wait! Would you mind if I stopped in? If not, what’s the name of your shop again? I don’t know what Mom has planned, but I’m planning to lobby for a visit to the Darwin Martin house and visit to the shops on Elmwood. Or did you say the shops had moved to Hertel… I can’t remember! :)

Tera :woohoo: new low and mini-goal!! So are you below 220 now, or is that more of a milestone rather than a mini-goal?

I agree the ADHD thing is way overblown. Some people are really challenged by it, especially when children/teenagers. I know it’s been a real challenge for several of the teenagers in my family.

I’d begun asking myself the same question about taking the wii with me. My hubbie is tech support in our house, so I’ll ask him if setting up the wii at my Mom’s would be difficult. If not, I’ll see if I can pack it today. I was planning to do only carry-on today…

one by one It’s nice to hear from you. I’m very sorry about your aunt. :( This dying stuff is total crap as far as I’m concerned. :hug: But I’m glad it’s giving you an opportunity to see your siblings (I love Key West…). In any case, my thoughts are with you...

Chinamaine and BillBE, I have balance envy and Yoga envy.

Something so simple we take for granted..balance. Once we can walk upright, it is assumed we have balance.

Yoga is one of those nuanced, blend-of-skills-kind-of-thing. Never could master anything that takes me beyond just mechanical-do-this-then-that kinda talent. Not a drum roll, not meditation, and certainly not Yoga. I did do Pilates for a while, and that was as close as I got. So, my coaches, feel free to ask me what I have done about getting some Yoga, meditation, balance (in more ways than one!) into my life.

WI: +1
Pain: 0/3/5
Activity: 1

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay: ...

It was a bleh sort of day, though I did manage to get the wolf face design done. I like it even better than the cat face.

Today: Truly finish the housework (til it gets messy again), focus on informative pages in the healthcare reform website. At least I'm better rested. Oh yeah, and I'm going to be so on plan. It's nice to know of at least one thing that's going well. :)

onebyone: :hug: I'm sorry that you're having to experience this. Losing someone is always a shock.

Bucket: :yay: for the exercise and staying on track.

Anne: Huzzah for the pre-preg pants! :woo:

Sorry to hear about restaurant trouble. They can be awfully sneaky.

Bill: Oh, I knew all along that a 2.5 pound drop would be followed by a minor gain. I also knew that the minor gain would still put me below where I'd been before the plunge, and within my minigoal. :D Sure enough, I still weigh less than 220. :p I'm going to get a haircut this weekend. :D

I'm glad that the book helped you when you needed it. It's not that I don't think that we should do all we can for people who are experiencing functional problems... but all kids need to get up and run around - it's part of the experience of being a kid. Studies are now being done linking exercise and school performance - how much of apparent ADD has been due to a lack of adequate exercise? We have them sitting at desks all day long and then often they go home to video games and television. And with adults (like my aunt) some people are high intensity/low focus and others are high focus/low intensity - what makes one type better than the other that we label the first one a disorder? How much of our seeing "disorders" is simply expecting people to act according to unrealistic standards?

:lol: at the eletron humility joke. Oh, and I think I saw an invitation to tell the string joke...

ChinaMaine: :yay: for having a vacation plan. I do hope you enjoy your time.

Under 220 is both a milestone and a minigoal. It became a minigoal when I realized it was taking me longer than expected to reach my non-scale minigoals and needed something along the way to reach for.

Maryblu:
So, my coaches, feel free to ask me what I have done about getting some Yoga, meditation, balance (in more ways than one!) into my life.

Okay. What have you done about it? ;)

Good Morning everyone!

Did my workout this morning... I think I over did it tho. My hip gave a ping at one point. So I immediately stopped what I was doing, and didnt finish any of the other leg exercises. I switched it to upper stuff instead. Hopefully it was just a warning. So far I can feel it, but there isnt any pain. I'll keep my fingers :crossed:

Im already at 6000 steps for today! :cb:

ChinaMaine~ I'll send you a pm with all my contact info! This is exciting!

onebyone~ Im so sorry about your aunt :hug:

Im sorry I dont have more time for personals...the corporate challenge t-shirts are waiting.

Have a great day everyone!

Weight: -1 lb.
Credit: Exermocisin' through my laziness, Not eating after dinner last night, Remembering to read all my cards, spontanous dance breaks, staying within my food plan

Woohoo! I just discovered I don't have to take the SAT/ACTs to get into the college I'm enrolling in next spring. Downside: I have to take the GED, *but* Texas won't let anyone under the age of 17 take it. GAHHH. I'm hoping I can figure out a way around it so I can take it this year and be enrolled by next spring. I don't know what I'll do with myself if I have to wait until I'm 17. Defiantly does take a whole lot of stress off me.

I swear I felt more energized once I discovered that I didn't have to take the SAT/ACTs within the next 6 months. XD As Mr. Mackey would say: Stress is bad, mmm'kay~.

RobinW - Kudos for stopping when you started to feel pain instead of working through it! Rumor has it, it reeeally sucks when you can't exercise because of an injury caused by pushing yourself too much.

Bill - Also kudos to YOU for backing off when you felt pain too. :3 That phase between spring and summer is always awkward, yet it has the prettiest weather, doesn't it? It gives autumn a run for it's money, I think!

Also: I unforantely did not get your joke. :( This makes me want to go study physics again, but I'm already working towards calculus just so I can get all the funny calculus jokes. Hmmm.

Hi Coaches:

I'm about ready to turn in for the night. We leave for my aunt's funeral at 8 am or so. It'll be a long sad day. I don't know how my mother is holding up. I'll see her tomorrow. Of course my long lost TOM showed so I am feeling crummy with that right now and usually it's worse the second day and, of course, that's tomorrow. I did buy my sister a gift, her own copy of In Defense of Food. If it's right, I'll give it to her. If it's wrong, I'll do it another time.

Foodwise I'm still reading said-same Pollan book. Getting to the end of it. I'm feeling like it's got all the info I need but not feeling like I will be able to implement any of it. I need the behavioural aspect at the same time. Even if I found the perfect diet for me, it'll mean nothing if I can't stick to it, if I continue to eat when I'm not hungry, eat crap, eat when sad or eat to hurt myself.

Oh I sense some despair here. Better to talk to me after the funeral is over I think. I'm kind of a downer right now. And I'm feeling really puffy.

Thanks for listening.

Coaches/Buddies I'm exhausted after the second straight night of being awakened by coyotes. I'm so distracted right now, between turning 40, which shouldn't be that big a deal but somehow is, and stupid work stuff. Weight is at a new low, and I'm more or less on plan.

Anyway, I'm always telling you all it is ok to drive by post, so I'm giving myself permission to do that tonight. I need to tally up the food log and then I think I'm going to hit the hay.

Tomorrow doing some house clean up, badly needed after my injury earlier this week, and getting a long massage.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Food OP; CREDIT moi. Long walk; CREDIT moi. The walk went past Whole Foods and I didn't go in; CREDIT moi for avoiding samples by the CBT strategy of staying away rather than working my Resistance Muscle while I can smell them.

My favorite food pusher at work arrived at our meeting with top shelf chocolates again. Interesting that the largest person in the room took the most (3), three others took one each, and I took none. CREDIT moi of course, but the big deal is that it wasn't difficult. Just wasn't about me. The meeting was less boring when the food pusher used a pair of reading glasses to focus a laser pointer onto one of the chocolate wrappers to see it he could start a fire, LOL. Talk of Driven to Distraction.


maryblu - LOL at "balance envy and Yoga envy." Speaking of which, what have you "done about getting some Yoga, meditation, balance (in more ways than one!) into my life?" I feel a twinge of balance envy just thinking about the areas in my life that could use some adjustments.

onebyone - Sending you supportive thoughts for your long day at your aunt's funeral today. Funerals are a time for healing; I hope that includes your relationships with your mom and siblings.

Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for a hip ping; emailing you Tera's chiropractor just in case, LOL. Kudos for switching to upper body stuff instead of quitting.

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats on a new low scale reading. Hope your massage is a healing one.

Tera (twilit tera) - I like your idea, Exercise Deficiency Disorder (EDD). The world needs a disorder that has a non-pill remedy. I'm a big fan of the phrase Nature-Deficit Disorder to describe the kids who have no connection with the natural world, from Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children From Nature-Deficit Disorder by Richard Louv. Haven't read the book; got what I needed from the title, LOL.

ChinaMaine - Kudos for the balance exercises on the wii. And Double Kudos (one for each foot) for putting on your socks while standing. Isn't it the greatest that the natural loss of balance with age can be countered with exercise. (Now, there are some other natural losses that seem a tad resistant, LOL.) Methinks savoring small triumphs is indicative of solid Beckian CBT.

The Parker River NRW (National Wildlife Refuge) is one of my favorite birding spots on the planet. It's only a few minutes south of Maine. (Suffering Rose-breasted Grosbeaks envy here, LOL.)

Have a relaxing vacation visiting your mom. Yay for planning a Buffalo Beck Meet. Can't wait to hear.


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Kudos for "Exermocisin' through my laziness." Anything to avoid the dreaded EDD, LOL.

Yay for no SAT/ACTs. Is the GED required because you've home schooled yourself? Would love to hear how that's worked for you.

Alas, Dr. Paul Dirac was a revered physicist back when I first met college physics - referred to with awe; his electron equation was the latest and greatest. My attraction to the humility joke was because it contributed to my gut understanding that all our science is an analogy to the real world; the electrons don't care. Of course, the second half of the humility is the PhD bartender, which isn't as shocking an idea now as when I first heard the joke.


Readers - tip: Do not use chewing gum as a resistance technique. Some dieters tell me, "I can resist tempting foods, but only if I chew a piece of gum." To effectively exercise your resistance muscle, you need to get accustomed to eating three meals and three snacks with nothing else in between. It's okay to enjoy an occasional piece of gum, but don't pop it in your mouth because you think, I need it. Once you learn to tolerate the sensation of having an empty mouth, you will be truly free.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 102

WI- up .25 lbs. Read my cards but didn’t make a plan. When flying/driving en route to a new place I rarely make a plan. There’s just too many unkowns for me to do it. Generally I try to meet typical calorie limits I have for weekdays and weekends. But I'll still consider it op if I go up to 300 calories over my typical. So, yesterday I thought through the kinds of choices I was likely have and work from there. I have to say I love the ubiquitous-ness of Chicken Ceasar Salad in almost every airport emporium. They are tasty, low calorie, ok on fiber, and easy to carry and eat on a plane.

For dinner, my Mom took me to a nice GF restaurant in Lackawanna for dinner. I had a black bean soup followed by grilled halibut with rice and roasted beets. I love roasted beets! The grilled fish was supposted to have Pistachio butter on it and I requested putting that on the side. I used about 5% of the butter they gave me. Credit moi for good food choices yesterday. I entered all the foods into MFD and I was only 120 calories over a typical weekday. Food – op. :df:

Fatigue: 1.2 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue) Exercise – op. Yesterday was an upper body workout day. I felt so good yesterday AM I was tempted to move use handweights on 75% of my sets, but I resisted. I was afraid that I would pay the price today in fatigue. I’m so glad I didn’t do that since I’ve woken up moderately fatigued – probably due to traveling…

maryblu Yoga isn’t as touchy-feely as it looks (no meditation required ;)). The hardest part at first is learning all the basic stretches and moves, and the names. After that it’s really just a slow paced core+stretch exercise routine. I find it both very invigorating and very relaxing. It’s better than having a cup of coffee in the AM. :D Maybe just give yoga a probationary period? (e.g. ‘I’ll do it for a month and then decide…’) I understand Pilates is probably better for both core and balance, so maybe that’s best for you.

Tera Ouch for a bleh day. But :bravo: that being ‘so on plan’ was your bright spot! And sorry your pain level was up a bit. And, I’m really glad to hear you’ve broken below 220, it is quite an accomplishment. :yay:

Robin I just sent you a PM – can’t wait to meet you too! Kudos for exercising! I know I have to watch for my knees. I can’t bounce, do jumping jacks, or even do squats/lunges too quickly. As soon as my knee complains I do the same as you. I switch over to something else or just stop for a while. It’s the price of no longer being a spring chicken, I believe… ;)

bucket (with a purpose) Kudos for exercising when your heart wasn’t in it, and for not eating after dinner. :yay: for not having to take the ACT/SAT. BTW – I didn’t get Bill’s joke either. But it does NOT make me want to study Physics again. In this case, ignorance is bliss… ;)

one by one I’m sure by the time you read this, you’ll have already been to the funeral. My thoughts are with you in the meantime.

Re TOM, when I first read it I thought TOM was some evil boyfriend. :lol: Then I finally figured it out. It is evil, to be sure…

Re Pollan. You may not want to follow his plan, but what you’ve read could affect the choices you make. But I’m sure you are right, the core of what you need is in Beck. Credit for realizing that!

Anne Coyotes waking you up – no wonder you are tired and frazzled! Their howls are a bit freaky in addition to missing sleep.

40 didn’t bother me for some reason. I felt that 40s were the decade I’d throw away childish worries about pleasing others and just do what I thought was best. It worked well for me: I quit my job, moved to Maine, got a new job. Now 50 – that drove me crazy. I wouldn’t even let people say the ‘fifty’ around me. So the family joke was to whisper ‘mifty’ when I was around. :D

On the drive to Logan yesterday I started listening to 'How We Decide' - thanks for recommending it. I love it!! I have a PhD in Cognitive Psych, gotten back in the days when the metaphor for cognition was all parallel distributed processing. I've gone into industry so I've made no effort to keep on current cog psy research. The role of emotion in desicion making is fascinating to me. I can't wait to get to the part where he describes the neuro-psychology processes at work. And makes me think that ST was prescient...

Bill Kudos for avoiding Whole Foods and the silly food pusher. I need to learn ‘it’s just not about me’…

I agree, about how nice it is that exercise can literally bring back what you’ve lost due to aging. I hope it’s one of the intrinsic rewards that keeps me exercising daily for the rest of my life.

NRW – way cool! The book sounds cool too – but it does seem the title says it all… :D

WI: -1.5 NEW LOW
Pain: 0/3/5
Activity: 2

Credits: counting calories :yay:, vitamins :yay:, shoes :yay:, website about 50% done :yay:

There is a blue jay hopping around in front of my patio door. I wonder if he realizes how crazy he's making my cat?

Today we go to Golden Cross Clinic, just the prescreening thingie, no doctor today. Any fingers crossed, prayers said, would be very appreciated.

At least I'll be on plan today!

Robin: :yay: for stopping at the first sign of pain in your workout. Good luck with those t-shirts!

Bucket: I just love spontaneous dance breaks :yay: for sticking with your program!

:yay: also for taking charge of your education - being an active participant instead of just counting off days to graduation!

onebyone: sending lots of :hug: :hug: :hug: through this tough time. Try not to tackle too much all at once, hon.

Anne: Coyotes! Fun stuff. I love listening to them on nights I'm not trying to sleep. Good luck resting up and I hope you're feeling much getter soon.

Bill: Very :yay: for a free-sample-free long walk! :lol: at the food-pusher with the laser pointer! Nature Deficit Disorder sure is an interesting sounding title. One of the reasons I chose something outdoorsy as a celibration this year is that, spending most of my time indoors, I can sometimes feel like I'm living in a thermos - you know, all insulated from the real world by walls, a/c, electronics. Nature used to be something that was right outside my back door, but lately it seems so far away.

ChinaMaine: The description of dinner with your Mom made me :drool:! :yay: for staying OP during a trip.

No changes in weight. Today is a rest day! Which means.. I pretty much do nothin'. My body really needs a bit of "nothing" today. These are my risky days, though. With no planned exercise I tend to fall into my "all or nothing" mindset, so I'm on my toes today! Defiantly not going to fall into it this time around. Nope. Not with my handy new skills.

I guess today would be a great day to do all the things I don't have time to do for myself usually. Bath, some nail painting, a chick-flick, and some linguistic book reading might be in store. Ohh this will be a relaxing day, I hope! At the very least, if I feel extremely triggered, I know I can pop by here before I do anything stupid. Yay. :3

Bill - Kudos for resisting Whole Foods and the food pusher. I've never been into Whole Foods, but rumor has it they have almond butter. And I really want to try almond butter. Hrm. I should go to whole foods one of these days.

Actually neither the GED or the SAT/ACTs are really "required". I could just go apply to colleges with my merits, providing only extracurricular activities and my homemade transcript, but that's just too risky and most colleges won't take it unless you're exceptionally amazing. GED and SAT/ACTs make getting into college ~so~ much easier. Well. GED easier. The people who make the SAT, are known as the ETS. I'm assuming ETS stands for Evil Testing Serpent. They're not human, I swear. What kind of person want's to cruelly challenge highschool students to get panic attacks, cram all night long, and kill their social lives to pass this test and be assured they have a "future"? ETS, that's who. :(

ChinaMaine - Kudos for staying on track during your trip!!

twilit tera - Congrats for hitting your new low!! :yay: I'm sending good luck in your general direction. :)

wow what a day its been :whoo:
We opened up at 10 and while we were still putting out the signs folks were coming in.

Ive finally gotten a bit caught up!

ChinaMaine~ I pm'ed my business email....I keep that open all day, and it goes to my phone as well. I tend to get here spuratically during the day.

Tera~ a new low = virgin fatloss! :cheer: :cheer: Awesome job!

Bill~ Great job on ignoring the food that was being pushed!!

Anne~ :wave:

Bucket~ great job recoginizing that you are an all or nothing person. I think that is one of the hardest things to change about ourselves. Just taking it as it comes...and stay the course. Good for you!

As for me, Im op all the way! :cb: I feel great, and Im happy! Amazing what good clean food and a bit of exercise can do for a person!

Im off to the gym tonight for cardio...bribery didnt work this morning :lol: But I'll get there tonight!

Have an awesome weekend everyone!

Today I woke up tired. I hoped it was traveling yesterday, but I had some pretty serious DOMS yesterday from a core workout on Monday. So, I was hesitant to do another core workout today, since it was very afraid it would cause significant fatigue. Instead, I decided to do 30 mins of yoga instead of 15 mins (and skip the core workout). I don't like to give in and skip exercise totally, because I'd exercise a heck of a lot less if I skipped it everytime I was afraid I'd get fatigued. Besides, I've done yoga 15 mins a day, 5 days a week for months. It never occured to me that 30 mins of yoga would be a problem. It was clear pretty quickly after I was done that any workout was a mistake. I was quite fatigued and ended up being tired for the rest of the day, and sleeping from 3-5 PM. This meant leaving my Mom to get ready for a family bbq on her own. I feel terrible, almost despicable.
Fatigue: 3.2 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue) Exercise – op.

I'll log my food, do the full report and personals in the AM. G'night everyone. (sigh)

Diet Coaches/Buddies - OP food; did gym; CREDIT moi.

Need some re-dedication here. I've crept up to the top of my scale cycling range and am sitting there like a new set point. Think I've become lax with portion size in a couple of places, particularly fruit. When the strawberries were at a good price I bought the two pound boxes and have consumed HUGE portions with my granola at breakfast. And I've just incorporated some large seedless black grapes as an addition to my evening snack of a fruit. So instead of, say, an orange, it's been an orange plus a wad of grapes. A big wad. So, in the spirit of a Beck maintainer, I started last evening to sharpen my portions and try to get back to slowly moving up and down within my range.


onebyone - Waving. Thinking of you with your family at your aunt's funeral. Again sending supportive thoughts for a period of healing.

Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for OP food and for exercise. And Yay for too much business. This country needs to find out whatever it is that you're doing and do it everywhere. Would you mind networking with a few Detroit CEO's?

Anne (wndranne) - Waving. Hope your back is healing.

Tera (twilit tera) - Congrats on the "NEW LOW" - seems like we've heard this before. This Beckie is on a roll.

LOL at the Blue Jay making your cat crazy. That's one trusting bird believing that the patio door won't open.

Hope the prescreening thingie at the Golden Cross Clinic went well today.


ChinaMaine - Yay for roasted beets at a gluten free restaurant where you don't have to worry about cross contamination. And Yay for Lackawanna just because it's a neat name that I'd never heard before.

Ouch for the serious fatigue today and its impact on your visit. Interesting that Wiki gives two competing explanations for DOMS (Delayed onset muscle soreness) but both are from muscle growth. Hope yours has such a positive cause.


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Yay for a day of rest - hope you relaxed well and didn't accidentally do something, for crying out loud.

Yep, almond butter is pretty amazing - as is cashew butter, pecan butter, and walnut butter. But I think almond butter is about the best. Be warned though, while almond butter is only about twice the price of peanut butter, the others get very pricey. I try it periodically and am blown away, but always go back to peanut butter because that's the taste I've always known. I suspect that peanut butter sticking to the roof of my mouth brings back many happy memories of childhood so I'm just confusing eating with happy emotions, LOL.

LOL at "Evil Testing Serpent" - yep, demonic they are.


Readers - Success Skill 9
Get Back on Track - Right Away
You may not ralize that all long-time maintainers, and even people who have never had weight problems, overeat from time to tome. Why don't they gain weight? Because they don't think about it catastrophically. Instead, they just use their skills to get back on track immediately. They don't get down on themselves. They don't get hopeless. They tell themselves, Okay, I wish I hadn't done that. ... Oh, well, I'll eat a bit less the rest of today.
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The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 102

Bill~ business has been good, but I thought of you the other day when one of our customers came into the shop with awesome news. I thought, about the comment you made a while ago about telling President Obama how well some folks are doing and hiring staff!!

This fella started this business in the dead of winter, at the height of the economical mess! He has doubled his membership since my husband and I joined, and he's hired a full time event planner and has one intern from one of the colleges working for him. He's still working his "day job" too! I was so happy for him when he came in to introduce us to his new staff members!!

I just love seeing these little businessese thrive!! He even had a big write up in one of our local publications. It hasnt even been a year for him! How cool is that!?!!

:wave: Im doing a fly-by....I need my coffee before I get to the gym and I want to be done with all that, so I can hopefully hook up with ChinaMaine today!

Wait, I want to pick your Beck Brains about something.

Im eating op, keeping to what works for me. Here is the thing. Im fighting with myself over eating when Im not hungry.

I eat 3 meals a day, usually a snack at 3pm with my coffee. Well lately that snack is left, and lunches are very late. Because Ive been busy, but also not hungry.

Last night I was NOT hungry at all! I really didnt want to eat supper, and fought with the logic. Its supper time, I need to eat. Otherwise I'll be hungry later.

So I went to the gym and did my workout, thinking I'll be hungry by the time I get home.

Nope...I wasnt.

So I tested myself. Lets just leave it until I AM hungry. Because I need to eat to fuel my body, otherwise it's just overeating.

Ok...by 9pm I could feel a slight nagging headache coming on. I still wasnt hungry. But I took that headache as a sign that I should eat. At 9:30 I had 2 little chicken thighs. I still wasnt hungry...you know sometimes you eat and it seems to stimulate your appetite, and you are suddenly famished? No, none of that this time.

What are your thoughts? Im fighting with "habits" and "shoulds" when Ive been doing alot of reading about "fueling" the body when you need it rather than following past habits.

Have a great day everyone!

WI: steady
Pain: 1/3/6
Activity: 3

Credits: (I did awesome yesterday.) sharing a regular sized single scoop of sweet cream with raspberry mixin at Marble Slab (a treat we'd been planning all week) :yay:, putting in extra time in the pool after discovering that beer was going to be offered at movie night this time :yay: Limiting those beers to 2, even though I'm such a heavyweight. :yay: Not cleaning my plate at dinner! :yay: Over all, even with the extra goodies, I kept a calorie deficit! :yay:

I qualify for a 30% discount at Golden Cross, so that's something at least. If I need to go to the hospital and can't pay, I have to apply for charity separately.

I see a doctor next friday. I'm coming prepared.

Today, B and I are hanging around the home. Mostly to play video games, although I want to work on the next window vinyl design and virtually arrange furniture in the apartment we'll be moving to next month. Staying home and eating things we make here will ensure that I'll be on plan today.

Bucket: :yay: for all the ideas you had yesterday to help you fight temptation! I think doing self-care is a fantastic way to stay on track, sending yourself clear messages that you care about yourself will have a positive effect for certain!

Robin: :lol: at virgin fat loss! I'm glad that business is hoppin'. It may be stressful but it keeps you going. :D :yay: for OP all the way

I'm a proponent of the "eat when you're hungry" school of thought. Unless there is clear evidence that something has messed up your hunger signals, I think how you feel is the best indication of whether you should eat. The flip side is that one should stop eating when one no longer feels hungry, which I think is the biggest problem for a lot of us.

ChinaMaine: Yikes at the fatigue levels! :yay: for trying to choose an exercise appropriate to the situation instead of either plowing through something that would do a lot more harm giving up the notion of exercise altogether. Even though it didn't work out, you made the best decision you could at the time, and learned from the experience. Ain't nuthin' despicable about that.

Bill: :yay: for recognizing where you've been slipping and taking steps to control it.

Wake up late? Check. Have nothing to do today? Check. Watch TV when you first get up? Check. Not regret doing anything on Friday? Check. Well, it looks like Saturday is on track. -yawn-

Credit for me for eating a treat responsibly last night, defeating the cravings to go back for seconds on my treat, aaand staying within my calorie range. Hurrah!

Bill - Feel free to throw some fruit my way. Gosh, my parents don't buy enough of fruit or veggies. XD Always a bag of potato chips laying around, but not a whole lot of bananas, strawberries, grapes, brocolli... you get the drift. -le sigh-

One day I want to try all the nut butters out there. It'd be a lot cheaper to make it, wouldn't it? Turns out it's pretty easy to make any nut butter, just patience to stand infront of your loud food processor as it grinds up the nuts into buttery goodness. No oil needed or anything! Maybe I 'aughta invest in a variety of nuts and see what I can come up with.

RobinW - Maybe you could eat smaller meals with less dense foods? If I eat a lunch of beans, oatmeal, and peanut butter, I'm not hungry for the rest of the day. But if I have a small lunch of a salad with a variety of different veggies, and maybe some nuts on the side, I'll defiantly be hungry for the afternoon snack I had planned. But if you are doing that, I'd just go with the flow and stick to listening to your body. -shrug- Just my point of view.

twilit tera - Wowza you did a lot yesterday. lol. Kudos!! :)

Coaches/Buddies My birthday party is today, and we are to have a house full of people shortly. This conveniently coincides with my planned feeding frenzy, aka carbo loading, plan to prepare me for the race on Monday.

I'm still feeling really distracted. Crises at work happening at milestone birthdays give one reason to reconsider a lot of big things in life. Career change? Anyway. I have a lot on my mind now, and for once it is crowding out thoughts of food.

Lousy personals again today, friends. Sorry. I'm glad you all are here, and I'm guessing I'll get it together again soon.

But RobinW since you asked. I've noticed lately, and this is a relatively new experience for me, I'm getting preoccupied and stressed out, and not really noticing I'm hungry until I'm HUNGRY! And then I eat more than I normally would have planned (which is offset for me right now by the fact that I'm, get this, forgetting to eat!!). Anyway, the point is hunger cues can get messed up, and you may be hungry at a low level even if you aren't registering it. I'm a big fan of "If it ain't broke don't fix it" but it is something worth watching for.

Back tomorrow, probably another quickie. Looking to get in a longer post on Monday after I race.

Anne

Hello Coaches

The funeral for my aunt went off easily yesterday. I cried, especially when we were in the church. I am not of any faith but I love churches and they always move me as sacred spaces. The prayers that are offered and have been offered up in those spaces always move me. And, in this case, as they were for my aunt and her eternal soul, I was especially moved. I saw her in her casket. I needed that. I regret I didn't touch her. Odd that. I thanked her for being good to me as she was. I can't say I have processed this yet. I really don't think so. I feel kind of like there's a sheet of glass or something over my feelings. I keep waiting for the big eruption of emotion but perhaps there is none to be had. I find this odd.

We siblings are all made up again. Were we ever at odds I wonder? Seems not :?: I'll go with this. This time I won't make the mistake of thinking of my brother and sisters as "family". That totally messes me up. Better to treat them as "friends", then I know how to be/what to do. These are all complications of having spent my childhood away from them. It still don't come natural.

Foodwise my weight is up once more. Could be hormonal influences and I am sure some of it is, but nevertheless I am on the threshold of 270 and coaches I am having two weird symptoms. I am scared to even type them out but will.
1) when lying in bed for the night and trying to get to sleep my upper/outer thigh on the right side only, was going numb and now, it doesn't feel numb anymore but more like supersensitive and "on fire". It's very strange. It also gets that "cold/cool" sensation like when your foot goes to sleep and it's coming back to life you know? This morning it took a bit for the sensation to go away. It's gone now and there's no weakness or anything but I'm concerned. I purposely set out to work that thigh muscle today, mostly to test it and see if it's up to snuff. It is. Could this be a pinched nerve somewhere? A bad mattress? Some odd combo?

2) My 4th toe of my right foot (same side as the thigh business) "twinges". Every once in a while it just hurts. I can't describe the pain: not sharp, kind of "jagged"? Tingly but to the X degree. Is this gout I wonder... I have certainly ingested my fair share of "rich food" in my life.

All signs point to a change of direction coaches. All signs.

I'm scared and I've been avoiding going to the Dr. My gut tells me I am too heavy for my frame. Once before I felt like this and I had strange pains then too that went away once I shed weight. My worry, of course, is that no matter what I won't shed the weight and that even if I do I have permanently damaged myself by eating recklessly, without concern for life, or, literally, limb.

I think I need to go back to Overeaters Anonymous. I need the support of a group.

And I need to face my EDD disorder (good abrev. here gang) and coaches, here's the happy part of my post for the day... brace yourself for my new BIKE! (see attached jpg). There's a huge community garage sale once a year and this morning was the day. I held it in my mind to find a sturdy bike I would not fear riding. I have a 10 speed racer built for lightweights with skinny little racing tires. I love that bike but am worried over flattening the tires. I am hefty. I need a hefty bike and big fat tires. Anyway I found the bike on the second street we went down for $15. The tires are flat but the rubber isn't old. It's got some rust and I think the front brakes aren't working, the back is though. The kickstand won't kick up and out of the way, but otherwise it is great! I went to Canadian Tire and got WD40 and some rust remover/sealer, some sponges to wash it and I'm going to get the pump and see if the tires hold air. You know, before we left I said to myself "I just want a Supercycle like I had as a kid" and I couldn't believe it but this bike is a Supercycle brand!

So we got in about 3 hours of walking (credit moi) and on our travels I only saw 2 other bikes, one way more expensive at $60 and another super rusty but I would have bought it had I not found this one. And also, just cause we were on the street, I saw a flyer for the local art store that they were having their warehouse sale today (I didn't even know they had a warehouse!) so we went there and I got some art supplies. I got a great idea for a series of paintings last night so this is all just so good. And tomorrow I get to start my garden at my friend's house. I now have all my seeds and 3 bags of compost in our rental car waiting to be delivered to my garden site: 2 organic compost and one an exotic shrimp (!), compost, peatmoss mix. So decadent. That bag will be for my melon crops. They always get the most babying in my garden. I :val1: melons.

I am almost done In Defense of Food and have started The New Rules of Lifting for Women. Whoa! That book's loaded with good stuff! I am willing to take the time to do the research to find what will work for me. I do know I do have to begin again. And really if I just ate food, mostly plants, and not too much, I'd be just fine.

Sorry for the marathon post. There's more but I've taken enough of your time.
:hug: everyone for your kind thoughts and wishes for me and my family. It feels good to come here and get it out and down on "paper". Thank you.

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Took a walk in gorgeous sunshine - although cool enough to need an over-shirt; CREDIT moi. Walked past a new hole-in-the-wall frozen yogurt place with tiny FREE samples. That's ideal - a good-for-me food in a tiny volume. Wolfed both the plain and the blueberry with joy. Thought of a dozen reasons to buy a pint to bring home. Didn't; CREDIT moi.

Stuck to my new goal of sharpening my portions all day. CREDIT moi. Sorta unfortunately, the scale showed a three pound dip this morning. Ouch - too much reward for a one day effort. The scale reading gods are teasing me to relax my vigilance. No way; I have a potluck event today so I declare here to do one plate of Food, not too much, mostly vegetables.


onebyone - Wonderful news that you used the occasion of mourning for your aunt into a re-connection with your family. What an amazing final gift from her to all of you.

Ouch for your two symptoms and Double Ouch for feeling scared. I'd encourage getting yourself to a doctor pretty quickly; the scared feeling is capable of eating at you whether the pain is a big problem or a little problem.

Kudos for buying a bike; what a find. And Kudos for so promptly going to (the amazing, ubiquitous, won't come to the US) Canadian tire to get what you need to put it on the road. That's smartly taking care of yourself and countering your EDD.

Sending supportive thoughts for you to find your way back to a food plan. No good suggestions on which way to go; just reminding you that we've seen you on plan for many months around here so know that you can do it.


Robin (RobinW) - Great news about your friend's thriving business. And even better news that he brings his new staff members to introduce them to your business - riding the wave you are.

Kudos for heading to the gym after work. You can count me with the group who sticks to my three meals and three snacks. I buy into the argument that it's good for my head to know that, when facing unplanned food, I can tell myself that I'm only a couple of hours max away from a planned eat. I'm concerned that if I allow legitimate hunger to accumulate, I'll eat trying to chase satiety; and I can quickly chomp down a whole lot of food before full kick ins. YMMV. Good luck making your choice there.


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for the work crisis doubling up with your birthday stress. Ouch for feeling forced to consider a career change on someone else's schedule. You didn't mention your back, so I hope it's under control for your race on Memorial Day.

Kudos for having a party for your carbo-loading. Now that's good planning.


Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for working in all those goodies while still maintaining a calorie deficit. And monster Kudos for "Not cleaning my plate at dinner!" - for that's I'm openly jealous since that skill is not a regular with me at all.

Sending supportive thoughts to the doctor who has to face you "prepared" next Friday. Hope he's got the moxie to serve you well.


ChinaMaine - Waving. If memory serves me, we last heard from you wandering the streets of Buffalo looking for a sign shop, LOL.

bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Congrats for sticking to plan all day, LOL. When a day of decompression is called for, so let it be. And Kudos for staving off the cravings for seconds on the treat. Did you use a specific Beck strategy for fighting that?

Like you idea of making your own nut butters. Perhaps the best money saving part is that you can make a small amount to try it out instead of having to buy a whole jar. And, you can control what goes in. Kinda amazing, but even at Whole Foods, which sells peanut and almond butters with absolutely no other ingredients, the more exotic nut butters sometimes contain soybean oil or salt.

You got me drooling with your comments about almond butter. By the time I had my regular weekend peanut butter on toasted whole wheat bread ends with toasted pecans and banana sandwich, I was craving. Soooooo good.


Readers - Success Skill 9
Get Back on Track - Right Away
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Unsuccessful dieters do just the opposite. Instead of immediately getting problem-solving oriented, they lose perspective and then make poor decisions. When they eat something they shouldn't, they often tell themselves, This is terrible! I'm so weak! I lost control! I can't believe I did that! I might as well give up and eat whatever I want for the rest of the day because, starting tomorrow, I'll have to cut my calories way back and deprive myself.
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The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 102

Good Morning Coaches

I'm off to the farmer's market this morning and not as a vendor but as a customer. I don't have enough work ready to go out to the market yet. I'm hoping to get some fresh eggs mostly and some good hearty bread.

After the market I am off to Ravenswing a craft/music festival in the same city park that I will be having my event in in about 7 weeks. I am curious to see how they set it up and what theya re doing there. the info for their event is very similar to what we have been proposing, but I suspect our events are very different. I'll take the info of those I am keen on and contact them with the details about our July event. I guess I am head hunting!

I had a good night the leg wasn't a bother. I wonder if the focus on getting exercise helped? YES of COURSE. SHeesh. DH promised to join me in a bike ride today (!) so I am looking forward to that this afternoon and the further working of my greater thigh muscles.

I'm off. It's a beautiful day out there. Enjoy your Sunday.

WI: -2 NEW LOW
Pain: 0/1/5
Activity:1

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, water :yay:, vitamins :yay:, dragonfly sketch :yay:

Should I be concerned about the quick drop? It's almost 5 pounds this week. Even if I'm up one tomorrow it'll be 4. I'm not hungry, though. I don't feel deprived. I'm just on plan more consistently than I was last month. (And will be today too!)

Bucket: :yay: for a controled indulgence!

Anne: Hooray for the party/carb loading syncronicity! As for personals, well, we all go through those times. It just happens to be your turn. :hug:

onebyone: :hug: Glad the funeral was good. Happy news about being reunited with your sibs. Hooray for new bike!

Those are scary symptoms. Both sound like a circulation problem, and could be linked to diabetes. Get thee to a doctor right away!!

Bill: :yay: for enjoying a healthy FREE sample without bringing home unnecessary calories.

The doctor I see will be an intern, the clinic is for med students completing their residency. They're supervised, of course. That arrangement worked well for me at Parker, where I met C. I'm hoping that, as a med student he won't be prone to the attitude I've seen in many doctors, assuming that the doctor has all the answers and the patient oughta just shut up and listen.

So I met Robin yesterday. As you might imagine she is very sunny, just like her favorite icon. :sunny: I also met her DH; they both showed us around their shop. It’s a really cool business. It was fascinating to hear how they make t-shirts, signs, coasters, etc. The prices are fantastic! Her DH did point out they FedEx. :D It is nice to put a face to a 3fc poster and I really enjoyed meeting them.

I’ve been having a lot of fun with my Mom as well. Today we go to Niagara on the Lake, we’re hoping the morning showers will keep all the Americans off the bridges to Canada for today. :crossed:

WI- I was up 3 lbs Fri, down 2 lbs yesterday. I feel bloated today, so I’m guessing I’m up again, but didn’t get a chance to weigh myself.

Food – My Mom very kindly went shopping for GF food before I arrived. I don’t know why it didn’t occur to me that she would do this. I assumed we’d go to Wegman’s after I arrived (they have a good GF section). But you know what you do when you ***-ume. (grrr at me) So my Mom bought me GF bread, bagels, cookies, granola bars, GF beer, etc. For the most part all the things I try to avoid. Or to have once in a great while, not all in one weekend. (sigh) So I asked her to stop at Wegmans anyway and bought fresh fruit and veggies and have tried to balance eating a barely polite amount of the food she bought and eating the foods I know are healthy for me. I know from Beck that I’m supposed to just say no. But she spent a lot of money on that food and she wouldn’t have if I had just called her ahead of time and explained my situation. Hopefully I’ve learned this lesson. Anyway, my sister is also a celiac, will be here in 3 weeks, so what I don’t eat, she may…

Friday I was 600 calories over a typical weekend, and yesterday I was about 300 calories over.

Exercise – yesterday and today I woke up late (8 AM) so there was no time to do the wii before we went out galavanting. But we have been touristing, so I’m doing a fair amount of really slow walking.

Fatigue - yesterday: 1.5 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

I'll try to make a stab at personals tomorrow. We plan to stay home, but I want to try and get some planting done for Mom, etc., so we'll see...

Good Morning :sunny:

Bill~ Kudos for 2 small samples! Even bigger kudos for not bringing a pint home. Dh and I did that last night, he taste tested the cranberry/blueberry bread with lemon creme fraishe on it. We decided the bread would be all gone by today :lol: But we did buy the lemon creme fraishe for the strawberries today.
"If memory serves me, we last heard from you wandering the streets of Buffalo looking for a sign shop, LOL." She found it!! :) ChinaMaine popped over to the shop yesterday afternoon and we had a lovely visit. My husband and I gave her the grand tour! She is such a lovely bright person!!

ChinaMaine~ Thank you so much for making time in your busy weekend to stop over to meet us!! Did you get over to the peanut place today?

Tera~ Good luck with the interns. I understand how you feel about the Dr's who dont like to listen and just want you to do what they tell you. I'll keep my fingers :crossed: that these young "whipper snappers" will be a bit more open minded.

onebyone~ Bill's thought process always inspires me...he mentioned that your aunt gave you a parting gift of your having your family back. A lovely positive thought. :hug: Congratulations on your new bike!!

Anne~ "if it ain't broke, dont fix it" I agree, I think maybe I'll just let it all go with the flow, and see what happens. I hope you had a good birthday despite stuff at work!

Today is our smoke-out. Hubs has everything marinating. Greens are all planned, and dessert is fresh strawberries and whipcream or creme fraishe.

:cheers: Here is to a sane planned eating day! Have a great day everyone!

Hello, All.

I just bought the Beck book, the first one as that was all the bookstore had. I figured, and was correct, that 3fatchicks would have a thread / support group for the book. I'm thrilled to find you!

I skimmed through the whole book and then went back and did the first three days kind of together. I'm starting day 4 tomorrow. I thought, I'd post my days here.

I hope to get to know all of you. By the way, the atom joke was a hoot. It made me laugh out loud.

All best,

Beth :)

Dear coaches/buddies..

I have fallen down. :( Saturday was aweful. I binged from evening until 5AM. Woke up this morning, okay. Binged from 3PM until 12:33AM.

So much food. I feel so guilty, not only because I really messed up my progress for the week (or two) but also because food costs money and I just consumed a lot of food I didn't need.

I feel a lot of depression from missing my boyfriend, which I don't really have anyone to talk to about. There's not a whole lot to talk about anyway, but I got to reading old messages we sent to each other, and it just really put me in an emotional state. I've also become aware that many of my friends think of my two best friends as being better then me, and don't really see me as a close friend like I see them, which added to that. Combine that with my all-or-nothing attitude and my auto-pilot decision to have a piece of pizza since I had a TON of extra calories to spend that day anyway (and pizza is excellent for getting extra calories in)...

I didn't even realize that one "not on plan" food could honestly send me spiralling like this. The thought in my head when I made that decision made so much sense. My response cards to overeating don't seem to stop me very much. Perhaps I need to place more importance on them...

I feel like I'm going to be lectured for this, or recieve pity. I don't need either, but if you have any sympathy, something that can give me a little strength at this time, or a point in the right direction, that'd be well. I think there's a lot that TBDS can't really "fix" but I know there's some methods that I'm not using when I need to the most.

I feel terrible. :( You guys do so well on this! I'm sure you have your slip-ups, but I feel so abnormal amongst this group, haha.

Tomorrow is a new day. I'm NOT giving up! I will work through this tough spot.

-exhale-

Rough weekend. Super rough weekend. Guh.

:welcome: Beth (beth_on_the_beach) :welcome:

And, in case you didn't get one of these when you joined 3FC over five!! years ago, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about The Beck Diet Solution?

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Followed my plan for the potluck: One plate, sparsely loaded, mostly vegetables. Skipped every single cookie, including homemade oatmeal raisin, and top-shelf oatmeal cranberry, cake-like breads with walnuts, and more. CREDIT moi. Interesting: I wanted to make my curried zucchini for next weeks lunches so I just prepared double to bring the extra to the pot luck. Well, the potluck consumed 4.5 pounds of zucchini (with two 29-ounce cans of diced tomatoes and four onions) and I had none left over for lunches. The lesson for me is that if you bring a vegetable to a potluck, folks will jump on it, LOL.

Was perfect weather for my afternoon walk; made the goal my favorite store that doesn't give samples to pick up bananas. CREDIT moi. Whole Foods also sells bananas, of course, but I chose to walk elsewhere just to avoid the samples. I wish I would develop the ability to just ignore the FREE samples. But at least I get to work the Beck-like strategy of choosing a different place to be.

Needed to get rid of an overripe banana, so for my afternoon snack I make a banana smoothie adding skim milk, a few strawberries, and a scoop of whey protein. CREDIT moi. It was tasty and a cool treat after a long walk, but not particularly filling even though about 300 calories. Good reminder to me that liquid calories don't register in my brain as consumed food.


onebyone - Yay that you leg didn't bother you at night; hope that continues. If those two pains return, that would seem to justify bringing it to a doctor.

Kudos for covert "head hunting!" Whatever it takes to make your thing a success. What veggies are your farmers selling at this early date?


Robin (RobinW) - Yay for "lemon creme fraiche for the strawberries" without buying the "cranberry/blueberry bread." I just love reading of tasty foods when I don't have to make the decision not to pop them into my mouth, LOL.

Neato that you hosted ChinaMaine - love it that these Internet connections evolve into face-to-face meetings.


Anne (wndranne) - Waving. HAPPY 40th BIRTHDAY today. May you have 40 more and 40 more after that - all healthy, and, in your final years, teaching your grandkids how to enjoy winning a triathlon. Hope your race goes well today.

Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos that you have such a positive attitude about your upcoming visit with your intern; neat thinking that their youth will open them to seeing all of you and not just their accumulated prejudices.

RE the quick drop: Nope, no need for concern with your pattern of healthy eating, sleep, and exercise. Just rejoice that this is the period when your body decided to make its move; write a memory card to have handy for when your body decides to plateau for a spell just when you think you've got the downward ramp going.


ChinaMaine - Yay for meeting Robin (RobinW) and family; the tour of the shop sounds fun. We'll have to think of a design for Beck T-shirts - perhaps NO CHOICE to wear to eating events where the food pushers dwell, LOL.

Great that you're having a good and active visit with your mom. Ouch for the missed clues on the gluten free food purchases. For some reason your tale reminded me of Reduced fat Spam, which has a few percentages less of fat, but remains, duh, Spam.


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - BIg Ouch for the off plan eating. Kudos for getting right back on track today, starting with posting here.

You might want to do a Cheat Sheet on that, particularly since it happened so soon after those awful emotional feelings both missing your boy friend and getting vibes that your friends aren't seeing you as you had thought. Beck is big on the notion that before we eat there is a thought. For me, that thought is often an emotion, justified or not, but real for sure and a worthy platform on which to stand and reach for food.

Kudos for turning to your Response Cards; sorry they weren't sufficient. Good opportunity to work on more strategies. You might want to give yourself credit, even in your posts here, for the stuff that you are doing on plan. Giving myself credit was one of the hardest strategies to accept and work.


Beth (beth_on_the_beach) - Kudos for charging into The Beck Diet for Life. Beck says that those first 14 Program Days are the most important. Posting your progress here, along with your thoughts on each Day as you complete it is great for all of us as well. It's always helpful for me to review if I'm really sticking to the early strategies.

Glad you found us here on 3FC.


Readers - Success Skill 9
Get Back on Track - Right Away
. . .
It is interesting that dieters can be so rational and reasonable in other areas of their lives. But when they go off their diet, they somehow think it is okay to compound one mistake with another. In fact, it doesn't make sense to eat one unplanned food and then go on to eat much more. Think about it this way: If you got a ticket for running a red light, would you continue to run red lights for the rest of the day? Would you say, I might as well run as many as I want and start again tomorrow? or course not! You would stop at the very next red light you encountered.
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The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 102

We went to Niagara-on-the-Lake Ontario. It’s a pretty tourist-oriented town at the point where the Buffalo River hits Lake Ontario. The river kind of flattens out there, so almost looks like a narrow part of the lake. Across the river is an American fort called ‘Old Fort Niagara’. I have such fond memories of both Niagara on the Lake and Old Fort Niagara. I’m a country girl at heart and when I lived in Buffalo, it would wear on me – all the people, noise, etc. So, I’d drive my young son up to Niagara-on-the-Lake every couple of weeks for a picnic dinner after we both got out of school. I’d soak up the view and silence, he’d play on the tiny rocky beach. I never really spent time in the town, which is mostly frou-frou restaurants and shopping. Anyway, it was nostalgic / fun day.

WI- up .5 lbs. Based on how I’ve been eating, and my relative lack of exercise, I figure I’ll be at least 1 lb up at the end of this trip. I’m going to make a real effort to be op today and tomorrow.

Food – Yesterday I was 500 calories over a typical weekend day at home, but felt I did reasonably well. We found an Irish café in Niagara-on-the-Lake that serves GF food and desserts. We had our afternoon snack there (banana toffee pie for me). I saved half for my after dinner dessert. I would have been op yesterday if I hadn’t had the dessert, but I have to admit I don’t feel guilty… We got take-out from there for dinner though, it was quiche made with a rice crust. It was really good, so am going to figure out how to make that at home. With brown rice it should be tasty and high fiber.

Exercise – my only exercise was really slow walking. :)

Fatigue - yesterday: 1.8 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue)

NSV: My aunt has commented on how much weight I’ve lost. I guess the rest of my family doesn’t like to comment on such things, because she's been the only person to mention it. That made her comments especially uplifting.

Happy Memorial Day everyone! Now that I've finished my food logging for the last 2 days, I'm going to try and do some personals before it gets warm enough to do some gardening with my Mom.

Tera A new low on Friday! :woohoo: and Sunday! :woohoo: I don’t think you should be concerned. I have these kinds of drops every month or so. I have come to assume that my body has been retaining water while I should have been showing more steady weight loss. Then all of a sudden my body seems willing to let me see the weight benefits of all my hard work – and the water weight drops all in a couple of days. For me, I then tend to go up a pound or two, and bounce around at a higher weight until I lose 5 lbs in a few days again. But that may not be your pattern…

Golden Cross – 30% discount sounds good. That along with a reasonable payment plan might work (or so I hope). More importantly I hope you and the doctor can negotiate a good plan for you. I’m glad you are coming prepared!!

bucket (with a purpose) I too have a tendency towards ‘all or none thinking’. One of the best things about CBT is learning to recognize it, because it can be a hindrance in many parts of your life, not just in dieting/exercise. Credit for being on the watch!

Robin Thanks again to you and DH for showing us around. It was really neat meeting you, and your business is fascinating…

Friday – Kudos for being op for food and exercise when you were so busy!

Eating at planned times or when hungry? I do a hybrid approach. I always eat 3 squares a day. The timing can shift based on schedule or hunger. But even if I’m not hungry, I eat a meal, even a light one. I’ve found if I don’t do this that I can WAY overeat when I finally do get hungry. By eating 3 meals a day, I am able to keep that voracious hunger at bay most of the time. If I’m hungry I always eat a snack. I have something planned, so I don’t get in the habit of skipping. But if I’m really not hungry, then I don’t bother. That said, I keep a sharp eye out for cues like headache, light headedness, sugar cravings to indicate that I need a snack even if I don’t feel hungry. But I don’t know that one solution fits all people, so you may need to try out a couple of solutions to find the one that works best for you.

Bill Ouch for hitting the top of you ‘scale cycling range’ (I imagine your scale on a recumbent bike :D) I guess when maintaining even small changes in food intake can have a long-term impact. You recently mentioned walking a lot less than you used to, could that be a factor too? I see from Sunday’s report you lost 3 lbs already, that sounds like water loss, don’t you think? Credit for sticking to your new plan in spite of it. Wow – your curried zucchini must be fantastic. But I think you are right – people love a good veggie!

DOMS – yes I’m sure it’s due to muscle growth. But I’m trying to learn to adjust my exercise up extremely gradually so that I get less intense DOMS. I hate being laid low like that…

Kudos for finding an op way to indulge your love of free food! Sounded so tasty too!

I love the idea of the NO CHOICE t-shirt. What do you think Robin?

no weigh in
Pain: 0/3/6
Activity: 3

Credits: water :yay:, shoes :yay:

Off plan, I'm afraid. I'm just going to have to admit that pizza is a trigger food and avoid it whenever possible. :( I was eating it all day long!

Today is better already. I will definitely be on plan.

Not much time for personals this time, I'm afraid.

:welcome: Beth! Congrats for starting your Beck journey and thank you for sharing it with us!

Bucket: Okay, look up to the top of my post. Clearly, you are no abnormality here. :hug:

The thing about CBT is that it takes practice. The longer you do it, the better you get at it and the easier it gets. Part of that is learning new strategies as you encounter new triggers. Time to focus on making plans for the next time you feel lonely or blue. You can do this!

Hi Everybody,

I haven't been around much lately. I can't keep up with all you guys so I mainly am a lurker here.

I just had to check in and tell The Beck cognitive therapy is working for me. You know I basically do IE. However, I came across a book about eating for the digestive system. I bought it because my chiropractor had told me that I don't digest my food a problem I think I had all my life. I've been doing all my Cognitive therapy things... cards, deck, credit, and memory cards etc all during this time. I the woman who didn't want to count anything any more used the digestive book and learned to count my calories, fiber and protein to get my food balance for me and it works. I've lost some weight since I starting Beck on May 1st and have actually lost 3.5 lbs so far this month. Not sure I'll make my goal loss for the month but I have lost.

I just had to share this with you because my metabolism was so messed up when I started this, but so was my "thinking". The Cognitive therapy of Beck has helped me get my thinking straight and to keep trying. So if there is anyone out there who wonders if this will work? I want them to know that it most surely does. Even if it doesn't look like or feel like it is working DO NOT give up. Keep working the Cognitive therapy as it is key to finding your way to healthy eating.

Thanks everybody for all you share.

A lurker friend

Thanks for the welcome, Bill and Tera.

The truth of the matter is that I've been losing and gaining the same 20 lbs since last fall. I'll lose ten and then sabotage myself and gain most if not all of it back and then lose again. Up and down and getting no where. So, I saw someone on another forum talking about "The Beck Diet Solution," and ran out and bought it.

I've found it interesting so far. In the first chapters I wasn't really seeing myself in the examples she gave in the "self-talk" of sabotaging. That is until she got to the, "I don't care," line. I say that to myself all the time when I want to go off plan. I guess, I don't need the other lines because this one covers anything!

I tend to want to rush through things, such as reading the book in one night, but I'm forcing myself to actually do it day by day. I know, it takes time to make changes, so I need to give myself the time.

I did find Day Three interesting. It was about sitting down while you're eating. I realized that I never stand up and eat...ever. I'd never thought about it before, but I always sit down to eat. I think it is due to my childhood. My folks were rather formal and we always sat at the table to eat. Also, even if we wanted a snack say for example, cheese and crackers, we were required to slice the cheese and put it on a plate with the crackers and sit at the table to eat it. I guess, that's one habit that did me some good!

As I said before, today is Day 4 - Give yourself credit. I'm going to read the chapter now and I'll report this evening on how the day went.

Happy Memorial Day!

Beth :)
276/236/? First goal: 231

Hello Coaches

Credit to me for eating 1/2 the amount of food I would have normally had (lately) for dinner last night and for sticking to whole foods. I ate some green thigns yesterday and will have green things tonight. I will have a vegetable every day this week. I am eating more plants and real food, still a bit too much but credit moi for evolving a plan slowly. We'll just keep to that for now.

Today I opened the mail and we got our rent renewal lease. They want to raise our rent above the provincial guidelines so it would increase $51 and the rent on our place would be over $1200.00
I donlt know what the psychological difference is between 1100something and 1200 but I have a psychological line that says NO! I WILL NOT PAY $1200 a month for any place, let alone a place I DO NOT love.
And what does this mean?
We're moving.
Before September.
We'll have to give notice at the end of June. This means June will be my month to get the bulk of this place cleaned out. I'd say 80% of what we have will go bye-bye. Luckily it's garage sale season.

And then there's the decision of where to move. We have three choices uppermost in our mind: 1) stay in town but go somewhere cheaper. Trouble is, cheaper will be maybe 200 or 300 cheaper. It's better but not significant enough to make a real dent in either saving money or paying off debt or relieving the financial pressure off of me so I can work minimally and make things maximally...

2) go north, really north where it is very cheap but we're north, really north. I don't, honestly, want to do that. It'd be temporary and my DH says he really wants to go somewhere where we'd stay for 5 years or so. he hates to move.

3) so this brings me to going to Nova Scotia. I visited twice. I liked it both times. it has cheap rent $600, 1/2 of what we pay now. It has farmers' markets, it has lots of art and tourism, it has a fantastic art school where I can pursue, maybe, a Masters degree or at least take more classes and contine to develop my art. And that's what we're going to do.
It's scary.
And so what eh?

Anyway I found myself consuming one too many cherries after DH took pen and paper in hand and called me upstairs to ask me what I wanted to keep in each room.
Yikes.
DH is serious. Now I feel nervous. Is this the right thing? Should I do it? Will I regret it? Will DH and I break up over it? (irrational fear here I know)

To be continued...

billblueeyes There was a surprising array of veggies out at the market. I bought spinach. It was pretty much full sized. Some potatoes, probaby last year's crop, some blue oyster mushrooms and some white ones too, some first crop onions so adorable! Little tiny tender round things. Nice. I saw cucumbers, a good size and tomatoes too. Some local growers are wizards with greenhouses around here.

beth_on_the_beach :welcome3: I too have been gaining and losing the same 20 for about 2 years. I am at the top end of that cycle right now. I'm looking for a new way out and taking the time to figure out what that may be. Glad you're here with us!

pattygirl63Thanks for reporting in with your success! I am happy to hear it and it makes me want to get my book and begin again.

twilit tera Ah pizza. I haven't had much luck controlling portions of the stuff ever. Glad you're back on track. No reason not to be!

ChinaMaine Thanks for sharing your memories of Niagra-on-the-Lake. It sounds like you had a good visit. Nice that you met RobinW! I find that making a real person connection to an internet friend always makes me feel more connected to the group as a whole. Good job with your foodplan too btw. Kudos!

bucketwithapurpose So sorry you had a tough day. I've had my share and can't seem to get out of it but I keep trying as do you. We have no choice to stay down now do we? No. That is NOT how we want to live. So what can we do? Start again. Try again. Make a plan. If it doesn't work try another one. Just keep going until we get it. We are ALL the same, that's why you fit with us! :hug:

Kinda an emotional one at that. Lots of loved ones to be remembered, and troops to be honored.

Welcome Beth on the beach. It is always such an energy boost to get new members to our team.

Happy to hear mostly success in the team's news. Bucket, you have been doing so well, I know this episode will not derail you. I think BillBE had some good insight for you...for all of us, for that matter.

I saw a shirt -tail relative this weekend; she is one of the "naturally thin". She had been to some food fair "Taste of Minnesota", where you buy a bracelet for $5.00 and get to go around the fair and sample whatever you want. I asked her what she sampled, she said "nothing." She had gone around the booths first and decided there was nothing there she wanted to spend the money for. Wow. That's how naturally thin people do it. I would have paid the 5 bucks, ate a bunch of stuff that may not have been worth it, but it would never have occurred to me to scope it out first. Hmm. What a concept.

I am traveling for business for a cuppla days, so will probably be monitoring without posting. Will have to check in to get Anne's report on the race.

Carry on, all.

Coaches/Buddies Triathlon went great today. No back pain to speak of and my time was not awful. And I had a great time. Once again I am doing a flyby post because my brain is going to shut down really soon now, and I have to get DD tucked in after DH finishes up the usual routine.

Back tomorrow, as normalcy returns. Hopefully.

Anne

Beth on the Beach :welcome2: I agree with mary blu that newbies are an energy boost.

I too find ‘I don’t care’ to be my Achilles heel. When my inner adolescent fat chick pulls out the ‘I don’t care’ attitude, I’m all too often led astray. So far I’ve been most successful when I’ve planned ahead of time to avoid her ‘I don’t care’ attitude. The skills on hunger (I think it’s skill 6) had the most power for me. But there’s so much to learn in all of it I think…

bucket (with a purpose) :hug: I’m just catching up on the posts from the weekend. So sorry Saturday was a blowout!

CREDIT for posting after being off plan. I know I’ve skipped posting after a bad evening (my blowouts are always in the evening…) When I skip posting I have a much harder time getting back on plan. So your instincts to come back here, when I imagine you thought of skipping, were good ones.

Tera’s right, a lot of the skills take time to really internalize. You’ve been practicing them for just a couple of weeks (maybe less?), so with practice it will get easier. I’ve found there are situations that cause me to go way off plan. And I don’t know how to completely avoid them yet. But I’ll figure it out eventually, and so will you…

One thought – perhaps you aren’t quite ready for completely ‘free’ days. Laying around, watching tube, reading old emails, etc. Perhaps you might consider structuring your time a bit more until you have more practice on the Beck skills.

Oh and just one more :hug:

Tera Ouch for the pizza! :hug:

Anne :hug: wow you are having such a tumultuous week. Kind of reminds me of one-by-one. You both seem to be at a pivot point, where your lives may change a great deal, but they might just change a little. Times like these can be exhilarating and terrifying at the same time.

I really hope you have control over the changes coming your way, rather than having them thrust upon you. I find the former is much easier to deal with… (Not surprising or particularly insightful I guess. ;))

:woohoo: the triatholon went well! Can’t wait to hear more…

one by one :hug: Friday’s funeral for your aunt sounds as if it was really moving. Thoughts and hugs coming your way…

Your family life growing up sounds difficult – I like your way of dealing with it – ‘friends’.

Yikes - your symptoms do sound a bit alarming. Going to a doctor is wise – I hope you do it. Of course weight could be a factor in what you’ve experienced. I think most of us on this thread are too big for our frames. I believe every 10 lbs of weight loss can significantly affect our frame (positively). Yes going to a ‘real’ group is probably the right thing to do. We can be here every day, but you’ll get something different from a support group.

Bike- what a way to turn around your post into something happy and positive. It’s this ability that’s going to get you through the many changes ahead of you! Kudos! Bravo!

Sunday at a farmer’s market, exploring future options at a festival, and a bike ride. Perfect! Credit! (and glad your leg wasn’t bothering you…)

Monday (let me just say you’ve had quite a roller coaster of a weekend. DOUBLE CREDITS for keeping a positive, constructive attitude in the face of it. IMHO it can be quite positive in the long run to be in a situation where a major life decision isn’t required, but might be best. It could be that 18 months from now you may be much, much happier with your life, and your future.

Kudos for choosing green things. :yay:

Trish (pattygirl63) It’s good to hear from you. :wave: Especially since Beck is working for you… Don’t be such a stranger! :)

:wave: davidette, angelmomma, Jeanie and anyone lurking.

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Completed a gentle weekend - just what I needed. Food OP, including dinner on the patio in perfect weather, Gym with lunges forward and back; CREDIT moi.

Put the cages around the tomato plants growing with such expectations. Harvested and ate my first lettuce from my garden; lettuce that started as tiny tiny seeds in my own fingers. It was yummy. CREDIT moi.

Alas, still a slow learner. Just recently mentioned that I must be consuming more granola per serving since my batch didn't last two full weeks. Well, when my adult DS was visiting - he stops by the house frequently - I happened upon him in the pantry wolfing a large handful of granola straight from the jar. That so reminds me of his teen days when a bowl of cereal ten minutes before dinner would "tide him over." And reminded me that since my children were born that my life is full of stuff I can't explain, contributing to my spiritual growth to let go the expectation that I'll be able to explain everything if I just looked hard enough for the evidence.


maryblu - Amazing story of your "shirt -tail relative" at the food fair "Taste of Minnesota" not eating anything just because there was nothing there she wanted. After paying her $5. It's outside of my consideration to make such a decision. So reminds me of the Danny Devito line, "Since when do you have to be hungry to eat a donut?"

Good luck on your business travels. Remember to bring your Beck thinking with you.

onebyone - Kudos for the vegetables, whole foods, and cutting dinner by half. Such good steps all.

Ouch for the five percent rent increase, and Double Ouch that it triggered your threshold. You've been talking about moving for a while now; this seems to have found you ready. Is Nova Scotia a real option? I loved visiting there. It seems to have resisted the bursting growth of everywhere else. And they do have a swarm of tourists in need of buying art work from the locals. Good luck in thinking this through.

So, blue oyster mushrooms and other delectables at your farmers' market. Sounds good; the farmers' markets around here start this week; I'm psyched

You didn't mention the pain; hope that means it's passed. Keeping my fingers crossed for you there.


Robin (RobinW) - Waving. Just noticed that you were the tenth poster on the first Beck thread on 3FC some two years ago. Happy Second Anniversary. You've been here longer than anyone else recently posting. Congratulations for spotting something good and sticking with it.

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for finishing another triathlon, and for being satisfied with your time.

And congrats for maintaining your belief that "normalcy returns" is an option with two kids, LOL.


Tera (twilit tera) - Ouch for pizza as a trigger food. Ouch for "all day long." Kudos for posting here even when busy.

ChinaMaine - Your "banana toffee pie" at an Irish cafe in Niagara-on-the-Lake Ontario sounds like perfect food porn straight from Gourmet magazine; understand, gotta have that. Kudos for only eating half. Sounds like you continue to make a good visit with your mom.

LOL at "I imagine your scale on a recumbent bike." Now that's an image that explains scale jitter. Yep, I think you're right - it's reasonable for my reduced walking to convert into a higher set point; I just need to get over it, or, duh, go back to longer walks.


Trish (pattygirl63) - Congrats on down 3.5 pounds on the scale this month. And Big Kudos for making the Beck Cognitive therapy work for you.

And Kudos for working the digestive system book to start counting calories. What's the name of the book? Do you recommend it?


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Waving. Hope all is going well with you for the remainder of the Memorial Day weekend. Methinks Tera (twilit tera) made a good point that cognitive therapy strategies take practice. Sending you supportive thoughts.

Beth (beth_on_the_beach) - Kudos to your folks for teaching you to sit down to eat. Wish I had learned that; I'm one of those who was shocked to discover that I nibbled from my plate between the stove and the table. And I now remember that I nibbled from my kids plates when clearing the table - that one is kinda embarrassing.

Neat to identify the "I don't care" Sabotaging Thought as a key one for you. That's a big step. Are you going to make a Response Card for that? Sounds like it could use a daily reminder that you do care and have a list of reasons to want to make changes in your life.


Readers - Success Skill 9
Get Back on Track - Right Away
. . .
To lose weight successfully, you need to learn how to stop yourself at the first mistake, put it in perspective, and recommit yourself right away. Because that's just what it is, a mistake. We are all human and, therefore, not perfect, so mistakes are an inevitable part of life. I don't know a single dieter who followed a plan perfectly, day in and day out for the rest of his/her life. I still make mistakes from time to time. But I limit them and get back on track right away. Expect to make mistakes from time to time and expect to use all of your skills so you can get back on track right away, too.
. . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 103

Coaches/Buddies: Ack!! Why didn't I press Control+Alt A/C? So, my original post just disappeared into cyberspace. Luckily it wasn't too long. I spoke about (once again) my lack of consistency with checking in here. I am accepting it for what it is -- a form of sabotage (or at the very least, resistance to success). I'm hoping that perspective will help me overcome it. I'm even thinking I should make a Response Card to combat all the excuses that pop-up in my mind when I'm thinking about posting. I'm not looking for perfection (i.e. posting every single day, always doing personals, etc. ehem--Bill Blue Eyes!), just consistency.

Today I have:

Weighed In (126) :broc:
Posted here :broc:
Wrote in my journal :broc:


My sister and father have been here (overlapping) for the past 10 days, but are gone now (just took my dad to the airport at 4am today!) Hopefully, I will now better be able to focus on myself. Oh and my new toy (Blackberry) should make posting even easier!

BillBlueEyes:
I want to let you know how much I admire and appreciate your dedication to posting here. It is such a comforting feeling knowing that your post will always be here to greet me, no matter how many days I've been MIA. Just out of curiosity, how much time do you allot each morning to post?

So glad to hear about your "gentle" weekend (love that adjective) and kudos to your for eating OP (the dinner on the patio sounds lovely) and the gym workout including forward and backward lunges!
I love the story about your discovery on the missing granola and the larger life lesson and spiritual growth that has ensued since having kids.

We stayed home for most of the day, although we did out to buy a zucchini and tomato plant to put in hanging-upside-down pots.

Food – op, Exercise – op. Fatigue - yesterday: 1.8 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). I’ve got pretty significant brain fog this AM and I’ve been feeling more and more fatigued since I got here and couldn’t figure out why. I just realized that I’d forgotten to take my thyroid medicine for the entire week I’ve been here. It makes me so frustrated :tantrum: to completely blank on something that’s going to affect how I feel for several days at a minimum, possibly a full week. I am in the middle of a big crunch at work. So they’ll be expecting me to be back and working long days starting tomorrow. I hope I can pull it off…

Bill ‘… a gentle weekend’ :) Credit for eating lettuce that you’ve grown yourself. Lol at the granola story.

Kim Nice to see you! Posting more consistently probably would be helpful to you. Hope the new response cards work. Sounds like you are having a good day today.

Today I fly home, so need to get packing!

WI: +1
Pain: 0/3/6
Activity: 3

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, ignoring the pizza in mom's fridge :yay:, saving calories for the steak dinner we had with friends in the evening :yay:, water :yay:, shoes :yay:

Mom and Aunt D commented on the weight loss. It's gotten really obvious lately, now that my clothes have gotten so baggy. :) Mostly, I think they were impressed with the attitude I have towards the plan and how I seem to have embraced the necessity of staying on plan. I suggested to mom that I could lend her TBDS so she could find out for herself how/why. :)

Motivation level is pretty low today, but I can't really relax - too much to get done.

Trish: Thanks for the testimony. I have more confidence in the Beck techniques than just about anything. I'm glad it's been helping you too!

Beth: :yay: for forcing yourself to not rush through the book.

onebyone: :yay: for reducing your food yesterday! Big :yay: for I will have 1 green vegetable every day.

Your life is full of so many big choices and changes lately! You've already weighed the pros and cons of all your options, and it sounds like you've made a rational decision that matches what your heart tells me. That's amazing! All that is left is for you to accept that you've made the best decision you possibly can, and enjoy the ride. ;)

Maryblu: Great report on your "naturally thin" relative's trip to the Taste of Minnesota. Something to add to my getting-thin toolbox. Thanks!

Anne: Normalcy :scoff: I'll believe it when I see it. ;)

Bill: Awesome dinner on the patio! A change in setting can be such a treat!

Kim: Hooray for the blackberry. :D I hear you saying that posting here regularly is a serious part of your success strategy, but one that you seem to be resisting. Is it possible to choose a specific time of day for posting? Mine is first thing before breakfast. I treat it like a daily appointment, something that is absolutely going to happen, and happen when it's scheduled to. Sometimes I don't have time for personals because there's a busy day ahead, but I just automatically turn to the Beck thread after I've done my weigh in.

ChinaMaine: :wave: hanging upside-down plants? Sounds nifty! Ouch for forgetting your medication! Good luck at work!

Heh, normal is a relative term!

My tri race report is here (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2756242&postcount=123). I'll be back tonight.

Anne

Heh, normal is a relative term!

My tri race report is here (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2756242&postcount=123). I'll be back tonight.

Anne

What an amazing way to turn 40!! Really! Think about it! You turned 40 in the middle of a triathalon! We are woman, here us Roar! Good for you!

Im waiting for a shipment to arrive, which will bring me a weeks worth of work. So Im posting while I have a minute to think.

The weekend was really good! Eating was really good. Im pleased with myself. Again, I have to remember to relax the all or nothing attitude. Eating something off plan, but still within calories is "ok". That's a tough one sometimes. Its also "ok" to scrub the back deck for an hour or so instead of going to the gym to work out.

Worked out with Michelle this morning, Im down 7.5 lbs from last week. Nothing for 3 weeks, then Woosh, its gone. Go figure! No matter, Im pleased...and she's pleased with my progress! :carrot:

Bill~Wow, I didnt know I had been coming to this thread for 2 yrs now. Lettuce from your own garden!! How cool is that!

Tera~ :cheer: that folks are noticing and commenting your weightloss. It always helps you feel good.

ChinaMaine~ You are probably just boarding the plane as Im typing this! Get some rest before you get back to work....I'll have a phone number for you for buffalo meat probably later tonight.

onebyone~ how far north are you thinking? There are several small towns Id move to, and some Id stay far away from just because of the crime level. Have you considered Thunder Bay? Its gem all in its own! Rents start at about $700 for a 1 bedroom. But there are universitys, colleges and jobs there. I lived there for about 2 yrs.....a few other places in northern ontario too if you want any insight into some of those places.

:wave: to all the new folks!! I'll get to know you soon!

Have an awesome day everyone!! :sunny:

I forgot to mention....I discussed eating with Michelle this morning.

I agree with most everyone here who chimed in on my question. But here is what she had to say. Remember she understands my issues and tends to go against the grain when it comes to mainstream "knowledge".

Her thoughts for me were, if I am not hungry, then don't eat. However! If I have worked out and didnt eat after, she wants me to eat at least my protein shake. What I had done last week; I wasnt hungry so I thought Id go to the gym and Id be hungry when I got back. I wasnt. So even tho I wasnt hungry for a full meal, she does want me to have my protein within 45 min of working out. She also mentioned listening to my body clues (like the headache I mentioned). But my body will adjust to things as we go along. (which I am noticing already)

.........Im off! My stuff arrived :eek:

Bill Thanks for the kind words. There is no way that I can explain to anyone the way I feel. I had felt so hopeless because I just couldn't get it together... nothing seemed to work. Beck's Cognitive therapy techniques are the key that has changed me, my life and given me what I needed to keep going and to keep trying. I made my Response Cards and then gradually changed them to fit the way I eat and made them very personal. Now I feel good about me and I have the confidence that I can and will make it this time. I am so grateful that I found out about this. I want it to work for me so that maybe I can help others who are going through what I did. I hope that when they see me do it that they will want to know how I did it and I can help them find their way to succeed as well by using these techniques. The name of the book on digestive system is The Complete Guide to Digestive Health by the Editors of FC&A Publishing. It is an excellent book that really gives a great explanation of how the digestive system works in a way that I could understand it. It helped me learn about how much protein fiber and protein I should be eating and the changes I needed to make so that my body works more efficiently. I just check Amazon.com to see if they carry it as I got mine through a mail offer. I could have bought it cheaper through Amazon. I highly recommend it as I believe it solved a lot of problems and answered a lot of questions for me.

Tera I have a whole new attitude about myself and the way I'm eating this time. It is the Cognitive techniques that are the big difference for me. For the first time in my life, I actually feel I have a good chance of losing the weight and actually making it all the way to goal and then keeping it off this time. There is no way I can put into words how wonderful that makes me feel.

Migraine today. Full up headache. Back tomorrow. I keep saying that don't I?

Anne

Hi, Everyone. Yikes what a couple of days. All I did was try to change my email address on here and messed myself up completely. I have just finally been able to get back in and post, but it took a whole new account with a new user name. So, just to make sure it isn't completely confusing, Beth_on_the_Beach is now Greenville Beth. It makes more sense. I don't live on the beach anymore!

I didn't get to check back in to write about Day 4 - Give yourself credit. It went well. I put a post-it-note next to my laptop that says, "Credit". I have been working on giving myself credit.

So...credit me for...being OP, dealing with a bunch of stupid stuff today without eating, cleaning the bathtub (hate that), and writing in my diet journal as I promised myself.

On to Day 5 - Eat Slowly - This is a good one for me. I may sit while I eat, but I eat like packs of rabid dogs are chasing me and my life depends on getting to the bottom of the plate. I have no idea why I eat so quickly. I always have even when I was thin. I did work on it today and will continue to do so. I put my fork down after each bite, drank my water, looked around, looked at my food. I felt a little foolish, but it slowed me down. It is something I will have to work at.

What does concern me is that I find I don't want to stop eating. Tonight at dinner, I did eat a lot slower, and I did find that I became full faster infact before I finished dinner, but I didn't want to not eat the rest of my meal. This concerns me. I'm not sure what to do about it.

OnebyOne - Good luck on the move. I have no idea if you're anything like me, but cold and dark tend to depress me. It might be something to keep in mind when you think about moving North or South. For me, my enviroment plays a huge part on whether I'm happy or not.

Maryblue - That was an interesting story about your relative not eating at the fair. I will watch what my father eats. He is as thin as a rail. The portions are tiny. I've also noticed that thin people eat soup before dinner. It's a shame, I really don't like soup.

Wndranna - Congrats on the triathlon! I've always wanted to do one if it wasn't for the swimming and running parts. :D

ChinaMaine - Try not to push yourself too hard at work! The thing about work...it's always there.

BillBlueEyes - Thanks for the great idea about the Response Card for the "I don't care." That was a great idea. I wrote one up that says, "Actually, I do care. Being overweight is painful, in many ways: physical, emotional, mental. I care very much." I think that will help.

Twilit Tera - Great job on ignoring the pizza. Not sure I could have!

RobinW - Fantastic on the 7.5 lbs!

Pattygirl63 - Thanks for checking in and talking about how the Beck book has helped you. It's great to hear. Starting out, like I am, it is always nice to know it is working for someone else. It gives me hope.

Beth - Down 1.8 lbs today First goal 231

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Didn't eat my second ear of corn at dinner; CREDIT moi. Put it away for my lunch today. I accept the argument by (I believe) Michael Pollen that it's the first bite that carries most of the taste; after that it's just repetition. That's a Response Card like thought for me anyway to use when I can limit my eating.

Felt that my lunch was insufficient, so decided to supplement it with a can of sardines that I keep stashed in my office for emergencies. Then pondered what it would be like to just have a lighter lunch. Certainly I'd get over it. Besides, my monster finger salad would be considered a full lunch by many. So I didn't have them, and promptly forgot about it until now. CREDIT moi. A useful reminder to me that I don't have to a slave to any stray feeling of hunger. Or, as the good Dr. Beck says, Hunger is not an Emergency.


Robin (RobinW) - Congrats on the 7.5 pound scale loss. Kudos for working "the all or nothing attitude." That's one of the Thinking Errors that often trips me; it's encouraging to me that you fight back.

Good sign that Michelle is pleased with your gym progress. Interesting thought to get your protein even if not feeling hungry.


Anne (wndranne) - Thanks for the link to your race report. Again, Kudos for your dedication to your athletics. Ouch for the migraine. Emailing nine hours of sleep to work that.

Tera (twilit tera) - Kudos for ignoring that pizza and extra Kudos for ignoring it as part of your plan for a choice steak for dinner.

Congrats for gathering up some compliments. My experience was that my loss was especially noticed the first day I shifted into clothes that fit my smaller self. When my clothes were too big, I just looked frumpy, not thinner, LOL.


ChinaMaine - Yay for leaving your mom with hanging zucchini and tomato plants. (Sounds like the kind that bucket (bucketwithapurpose) was referring to earlier.)

Ouch for the creeping fatigue. And Ouch again for forgetting your medicine. Good luck today facing your full day at work after a relaxed Buffalo visit.


Kim (bennyhannamama) - Kudos for posting when you have to retype after the posting monster consumed your original. BTDT. Yep, I do the [CNTL] A/C trick, as well as a [PASTE] into a conveniently open text file for double safety. BTDT and been royally peeved.

Your words are kind and I thank you for them. My morning routine includes an hour to savor my coffee and respond to this thread. Sometimes a little more when I get long winded. Takes longer when I go off googling references I don't know, LOL. This is the backbone of my Beck cognitive therapy; it pushes me through a bunch of Beck thinking each day, and forces me to read enough of her new book to select and type a reading.


Trish (pattygirl63) - Kudos for tailoring your Response Cards to personalize them. Good Becking there. Thanks for the pointer to Digestive Health; I've added that to my Amazon shopping list - the great place to put books to review along with the other hundred books in the queue before hitting .


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Waving. Sending supportive thoughts your way.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Kudos for giving yourself credit. LOL at eating "like packs of rabid dogs are chasing me." Yep, wolfing down food sure helps to get an overload in before we can notice.

I like your " ... I care very much" Response Card.


Readers - [B]Mistakes are not the end of the world, and they are not the end of your diet - as long as you know how to respond to them. Successful maintainers make mistakes, but they recover from them right away.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 103

Another quickie for me today....the whiteboard is loaded up!!

Bill, she mentioned that if Im not hungry and I didnt work out, then dont eat. But if I did workout and Im not hungry to have my protein shake after my workout....and not to worry about a traditional meal if Im not hungry.

I woke up this morning (barely) feeling like I had a food hangover. Remember those? Blah! Only thing is there isnt any reason for it. Everything was op yesterday!

Today I feel like Im working thru mud...not good when there is a boatload of stuff that needs to get done!

Ok...Im off have a great day everyone!

WI: steady
Pain: 0/2/6
Activity: 1

Credits: counting calories :yay:, vitamins :yay:, visit with C :yay:

Got nothing done yesterday. oh, well. today is a brand new day. I figure that part of my lethargy is reaction to the arthritis pain in my hands (it rained last night) and the bursitisorwhateveritis in my hip. I'm giving myself permission to rest yesterday and looking for strategies to get moving today. One thing is certain:

I'm going to be so on plan today!

Anne: Awesome job on the tri race! :D Thanks for the description. Sorry for the headache though.

Robin: :yay: for scrubbing to get your activity in! Now, that's multi-tasking, far better than okay.

What Michelle said about getting in a protein shake after exercise makes a lot of sense. She's telling you to protect your muscle by feeding it whenever you put the stress on it. I do the same with an amino acid supplement when I go to the pool.

Beth: Sounds like you're making great progress on your Beck days. You're identifying things that you weren't even aware of before!

:yay: for distinguishing between hunger and the desire to eat. I forget which day it is, but I know that Dr. Beck goes into that in some detail.

:yay: also for the new response card!

Hi Coaches

Well I gathered up a box of books and a bag of clothes and sheets and blankets we don't like, plus a vacuum cleaner I never use and they are on the porch waiting to be picked up by the local Cerebral Palsy people who will come to your house and take things away. They called two weeks ago and mentioned they'd be in the area so I told them I'd have something for them.

And this time I actually do.

Of course there is no real dent in the amount of stuff I have but I did it more to see myself do it than anything else. I have started to clean out my place. Credit moi.

My goal is to do the least amount of work outside the home I can get away with this month. I don't think I'll be at the farmer's markets very much in June. I am primarily getting the house ready for us to move out. June is the month to do this. July is when tourists really come to Ottawa and therefore is the month to actually begin selling at the markets. And August is when I do the children's technician job all month and make a good amount of money so I really won't be cleaning much that month and I'd be CRAZY:dizzy: to be trying to get this place cleaned out then. So that brings me back to June.

June: get house and us ready for our move
July: make things/sell things at the local markets
August: work for the school

Foodwise I am continuing to make choices of real food, I am drinking my water and I am getting extra exercise in everyday. The scale has shrunk back from the 270 brink to 268 this morning. I'll take it.

twilit tera Credit for your credits!

RobinW I think that's good advice you got from your trainer. Since you are trying to build muscle you need the protein for sure and trust me, eventually, you will get hungry again! So you know about Northern Ontario! I grew up in Sudbury and have family in Schreiber about 2hrs from Thunder Bay. DH is not keen on going north.

BillBlueEyes It's funny how much we automate our lives even in terms of food and what's enough or too much and how quickly we decide what that amount is. I was thinking this after you mentioned a light lunch vs what you are "used to"... We really do eat with our eyes, or rather, I sure do!
And yes, Nova Scotia is a definite possibility for our move. I am, of course, wavering on everything. It means leaving all my friends and all my connections and everything behind. But people do this all the time. I'll keep you posted.

Greenville Beth I too am affected by the sun and the lack of it. Being in Canada, there's only so much sun I can get! If I was in the US I'd be in the desert. No question about it. And I too eat fast, like a vacuum cleaner! I do slow down, mostly in the presence of others, but with DH and alone I am an eating machine.

wndranne Big congrats on your successful tri:running:ath:swim:alon:bike2:
I hope your migraine is gone by the time you read this.:hug: And happy belated birthday!

pattygirl63 Thanks again for your story of encouragement. It's helpful to read it.

ChinaMaine It sounds like you've had a great trip. I hope your plane ride home is uneventful.

bennyhannahmama Always good to read your posts :) Everytime you post you show yourself you are NOT sabotaging yourself and building, instead, a resistance muscle toward sabotage. :hug:

maryblu We have a food fair thingy here too in the summer. I cannot imagine paying and not sampling. For me it'd be more like I get to pay only $5.00 and I get to have all this :drool: I wouldn't even go to the event if I didn't plan on eating. Very interesting. Thanks for that.

Hello everyone, my name is Mary Beth and I'm new to the Beck idea.

I just bought the workbook last night but the other two books won't come in for 2 weeks.

My question is, is there anyting I can do in those two weeks to get ready tille the book comes in and I can start reading. I really want to get started, I'm afraid by the time two weeks rolls around I won't be as excited.

Oh and should I have posted this in another section, and introduction thread perhaps?

I'm looking forward to getting started and making some new friends here.

Mary Beth

I am starting with Beck again--did it a couple years ago. I think the difference then was a belief that I had to do it perfectly or be a worthless failure, and since I couldn't do it perfectly, I stopped. I know this is ironic, considering its designed to combat distortions in thinking! But those old beliefs are very powerful. I'm starting again though, from a better place, though the beliefs about food are more entrenched than any of the other stuff I've dealt with. I look forward to checking in here.

Coaches/Buddies: Seriously, I can't believe I did it again. I posted a whole long post (personals and all!) and then as I finished responding to BillBlueEyes post, I started trying to remember the last part of what he had written, but couldn't remember. As I hit, "submit reply" I remembered and it was too late! I had forgotten to save my post and sure enough-- poof-- it was gone :(

So, here is my best attempt at replicating the missing post.
I was feeling very blah (although a bit better now that I've had some coffee :D) I realized though, that there has been so much going on the past week or so. As much as I loved having my dad visit, it was still difficult because I'm worried about his health both physically (he's gained a lot of weight since my brother died and he's not healthy to begin with) and emotionally. There was also the whole dynamic of him spending time with Ross (my ex) and the kids-- because my dad is more of a father to Ross than his own dad ever was. I also had a number of serious talks with my dad about the divorce agreement, etc. I haven't gotten much sleep in days and oh yeah, I'm trying to purchase a house. So, I'm stressed. And typing it out has helped me realize that I have a very legitimate reason to feel stressed and not "on top of things."

All that being said, I'm still not doing too badly.

Yesterday, I logged everything I ate :broc: and ended the day with about a 400 calorie deficit :broc:

I went to my sibling loss support group :broc:

So far today I have weighed in (-1) :broc:, checked in here (x2 since I lost my original post) :broc: and spit out some pasta I found myself unconsciously putting in my mouth while preparing some for my daughter :broc:
Ate my breakfast slowly and mindfully :broc:

ChinaMaine: Ugh, I know the feeling of missing meds, sorry to hear you are dealing with that. I'm thinking about you today and hoping the transition back to work goes smoothly.

I haven't actually made the Response Card yet (:D), but I did think about it- lol!

twilit tera: I continue to be impressed and motivated by your persistence with the program! Congratulations on all that you've accomplished so far. How are you doing with people noticing the weight loss? The reason I ask because it's been a difficult issue for me in the past. Especially when it's other people who need to work on their health and weight-- I have this feeling like I'm abandoning them. I'm doing much better with that this time around though.

Thanks for the suggestion about picking a specific time of day to post. I am going to try first thing in the morning (although of course after doing that this morning and losing my whole post, I didn't have to re-do it then!)

wndranne: Wow! Just wow! How incredibly inspiring you are. I've contemplated doing a tri at some point in my life, but I'm not a strong swimmer and your description of the guys trying to swim over you was a bit much for me to think about right now :) What an incredible way to celebrate your 40th.
:bday2you:

Hope your migraine goes away quickly!

RobinW: I so hear you on the all/nothing thing. Congrats on your loss and yeah for the end of a plateau.

GreenvilleBeth: Congrats on giving yourself credit. I always seem to struggle with that one, but posting here forces me to do it-- another great reason to come here daily!
I know what you mean about not wanting to stop eating (I personally struggle a lot with that because I've already "counted" those calories) even though you're no longer hungry. I'm thinking this too will get better with practice (I certainly hope so!) Maybe making a Response Card to read in those situations would be helpful.


BillBlueEyes: Kudos to you for not eating the 2nd ear of corn! Also, I really like that point about the first bite-- I think I'll try to remember that one. Nice job also on not supplementing your lunch and realizing that it's okay to be a little hungry.

I have been saving this post in another file AND I will be doing the [CONTROL] A/C thing this time too! (AGH!)

I really appreciate you sharing your routine and thought process behind it. It's also really good to know how much time you put aside for it, because I think that's part of my problem; I think, "oh, I'll just take a few minutes and post." I will continue to work on my own routine.

I love being home! Don’t get me wrong, I love to visit my Mom too, but there’s no place like home…

Food – op, Exercise – i exercised 32 minutes today which isn’t quite op, but it’s cool with me. Credit!

Fatigue - 1.2 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue). I’m happy to say that I feel fine today, and I worked 10 hrs today. At my Mom’s we were active all day every day. There was no cardio involved, but we didn’t stay still very long. In my usual workday, I stay still all day long. So my fatigue may just have been due to that change in activity level.

Anne :bday2: It’s fantastic you did the triathalon on your b’day. You are amazing!

Tera Folks noticed your ever-shrinking-frame! :woohoo: And ignoring the pizza in your Mom’s fridge is what got you to this skinnier place, Credit!

Hmmm – your peak pain level is hanging in at 6 pretty steadily (if memory serves). I hope you aren’t feeling too badly. I’m glad you rested. My poor Mom’s arthritis is really acting up recently. And she has some other hip pain, that may or may not be arthritis. Based on your success, I suggested a chiro for her hip issues. We’ll see if she goes for it. She never got in the habit of going to doctors, I’m not sure she’ll do it…

Robin Congrats on relaxing the all or none thinking! WOW down 7.5 lbs!! re eating when hungry – I’m a big fan of doing what works for you. I think there’s rarely a one-size-fits-all solution. :)

Re working through mud – uggh. I hope the day got better…

Trish (pattygirl63) I’m glad that Beck has changed you, worked for you.

Greenville Beth Down 1.8 lbs :yay: Kudos for taking your time through the skills. They are the core of the program. Re wanting to eat when you are not hungry, I think the exercises in skill 6 will help. Hope I’m right!

You are so right about work always being there. It took me decades to learn that. But I do like to push through and work the 9-10 hour days a few times a year, when there really is a good reason to do so.

Bill Credit! – using an unopened can of sardines to prove that ‘Hunger is not an emergency.’ That’s doing Beck old school!

one by one decluttering – credit! A reasonable plan to move in 3 months – credit! It’s great you’re choosing real food and getting exercise every day. There will be more to follow the 2 lbs you just lost. :)

It’s funny – I used to love potato skins. Yesterday the only GF option I had at an airport was potato skins, and they just sounded too disgusting for words… :D After choosing real foods for a few months, the fattier, processed foods will become less appealing. (Not that I don’t eat pizza every 2 weeks – I’m not a saint!)

McBeth :welcome2: Can you get a Beck book at your local library, just until your own books come in?

Nuxmaga all-or-none-thinking is so common, and so seductive. It’s something I have to confront almost every day – and I’ve been using CBT for about 4 years now. I’m glad you’re back and I think this time will be different. :welcome:

Kim lost post :cry: i always write my posts in a word or text doc and I never have to worry about losing it all to the 3fc gods – just a thought… :)

It’s good you take stock occasionally and recognize you are going through an awful lot. I hope the sibling support group was helpful.

It’s great you logged all your food, and had a 400 calorie deficit. And dropping a lb is great.

bucket (with a purpose) :wave:

:welcome: Mary Beth (mcbeth) :welcome:

And, in honor of your first post on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you learn about Beck?

And how did you learn about this thread on 3FatChicks?

:welcome: Nuxmaga :welcome:

And, in honor of your first post on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you learn about Beck two year ago (when she first published)?

And how did you learn about this thread on 3FatChicks?

Hi BillBlueEyes--
I learned of Beck in 2007 when the first book came out, and she did an interview on the radio. I came across this thread while checking out all the possibilities on 3FC, and was pleased that there was one for Beck.
Thank you for the warm welcome!

Todays weight: 235.0 up .4

Hello, All. Today was Day Six on the program - Select a Diet Coach.

I don't really have anyone in my personal life that I feel comfortable with asking to fill that role at this time, so I am going to use this board, for now, to fill the void.

Today was an interesting day. For some reason, I really wanted to go off plan and eat a bunch of junk. I don't know why. I'm coming to think the "why" isn't as important as having ways to cope with the urge. I simply didn't care. I know, I really do care, but it is amazing how strongly I can convince myself, without any real effort on my part, that I don't care.

I was at the store, so finally, I told myself that if I stuck with my plan I would buy myself some non-food treat. I think a big part of why I over eat and eat junk is because I feel like I have nothing else to look forward to and eating "fun stuff" gives me something to look forward to. I figured that if I could buy myself something non-food to look forward to this evening, that might work. It seemed to this time. I just got myself some drawing paper that I needed.

The odd thing is that I really do have things to look forward to. I paint and I've had several shows since the start of this year, and I just won a juried art show a couple of weeks ago, and I have a show starting a week from Friday. I am even starting a new job next week. The perfect job for me, actually. I'm going to be the new Business Manager for a professional theatre in town. I have a degree in accounting, but I also have a BA in Creative Writing and I went to grad school to get a MFA in Playwriting. It's not every day a person can run into a job that needs accounting and theatre skills!

The point is, I do have things to look forward to, so I don't know why I feel like I don't. The truth is, for a long time I didn't. All of these good things have come about because I've forced myself out the door to get involved in the Arts community here. Perhaps, my brain hasn't caught up to my new reality.

Credit me for: sticking to plan, reading my ARC, telling myself several times today that hunger is not an emergency.

I am also going to start to put my daily weight on my posts and the up / down of the scale. I'm doing that because I find it uncomfortable to do so. I think it will help me be accountable.

Nuxmaga - :welcome: I'm new here as well.

MaryBeth - :welcome: as well!

ChinaMaine - I'm glad the day went well for you and that you're feeling okay. I know what you mean about being home. I love to travel, but there is no feeling like returning home. Credit for the exercise!

Bennyhannamama - It sounds like you've had a great Beck day! Credit on the 1 lb down! :carrot:

Onebyone - A start is all you need. Sounds like you got one with getting rid of the books and such...credit! :cheer:

Twilit Tera - Sometimes we need a day of rest for whatever reason. I hope you enjoyed it. Credit for realizing it was needed and taken. :cheer3:

RobinW - I hope you have that great day and worked through the mud. :comp:

BillBlueEyes - Major credit on the not eating more just because you could. It is certainly something I continue to struggle with. It is so helpful to see someone else do it! :flow1: It gives me hope that one day I will get there.

All best, Beth

Coaches/Buddies My weight is still up from the weekend's festivities and the usual electrolyte rebalancing after a race. The headache is now, finally, completely gone after about 24 hours. Today I went mountain biking in the morning, and did an aquathlon (swim/run race) this evening. Tomorrow is a rest day.

Things still feel nuts around here. We are going to the mountains for the weekend, so I have to do all of that tomorrow since I've been too busy to deal with it at all yet.

After the weekend, I'm going to stop running around like a crazy person and get some more focus back on my weight management. I sort of feel like a pinball right now.

Beth Welcome back! Glad to see you with any username. Sounds like you did a great job with eating slowly. Later you tackle leaving food and stopping before it's gone. One thing at a time.

Bill Mmm, corn. Nice work on getting to eat it twice. A bonus for leaving some food on your plate! Thanks for the sleep wishes. I did get some nice sleep, at the cost of lost work time. Oh Well.

RobinW Sorry about your food hangover for no reason. Weird. You might see if it is tied to any specific thing if it happens again.

Tera Hurray for giving yourself permission to rest when you need it. That is a tough lesson to learn.

onebyone Congrats on a solid plan for the summer and small but concrete steps to get your place cleaned out for your move.

Mary Beth :welcome: My input is to come hang out with us for a couple weeks until your book comes. You'll find you need Coaches and/or Buddies. We can do that.

Nuxmanga I know exactly what you mean about feeling like you need to do the Beck system perfectly or not at all. I have to remind myself that some is better than nothing. I think I have it on a response card somewhere. I should read that. Tomorrow.

Kim Sorry about your lost post, but glad you did a do-over. :hug: for your complicated family situation.

ChinaMaine Welcome home.

Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes. I feel like I'm past my little snit, whatever it was. Turning 40, stressing about the tri. All good now. Just need to get work all settled (making progress) and it'll be back to whatever passes for normal around here. Once again, I may be scarce this weekend, but I'll be around Monday.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Rushed to the gym after work even though heading out to a book group; CREDIT moi. Watched a guy doing chest presses with 100 pound dumbbells as I was using 35 pounders. Thank goodness I don't compare, doesn't cross my mind, no, not me. Or not very much. Or too often. Oh Well.

Planned to have those sardines from yesterday with lunch, but forgot until about half way done. Then, for the second time, chose not to have them; CREDIT moi. Seem a bit much to take credit two days in a row for the same can of sardines. And it remains in my bookcase at the office so I might just get another opportunity.

Passed up the opportunity for dense, chocolaty brownie like things and chose fruit salad instead; CREDIT moi. Had golden beets, perhaps for the first time ever - tasty, like red beets, not sure that I could tell the difference if blindfolded.


onebyone - Kudos for ridding yourself of excess stuff and giving yourself credit for it. Sounds like a solid plan for the summer.

Thanks for the insight, "We really do eat with our eyes." Neat thought.


Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for the food hangover without the joy of first getting stuffed. Scolds to me for carrying the thought that getting stuffed is a joy. Oh Well. Congrats for having a loaded whiteboard of business to do even if working through mud is the price you have to pay.

Anne (wndranne) - Yay for bursting out of your stress/BIGbirthday/triathlon/migraine fog into a double athletic event in one day. You da Energizer Bunny all right.

Good news that some progress is happening at work; hope you find a path there.


Tera (twilit tera) - Yay for so on plan. Kudos for giving yourself permission to rest when needed and for searching for strategies to get moving.

ChinaMaine - Congrats that your fatigue level is down. Kudos for doing your exercise on top of a ten hour work day.

Love the thought, "That’s doing Beck old school!" in reference to a two year old program, LOL.


Kim (bennyhannamama) - Ouch for the lack of sleep on top of the stresses associated with your father's visit. Kudos for taking care of yourself with your sibling loss support group.

Yep, I concur, you're not only "still not doing too badly," from here it looks like you're doing well.


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Waving. Continuing to send supportive thoughts.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - I accept your request to be one of your Diet Coaches and ask you to be one of mine also.

Kudos for wrestling with the "I don't care" Sabotaging Thought, and for such a creative strategy to bring it to the mat. That devilishly clever Sabotaging Thought, "I have nothing to look forward to" reminds me of onebyone's statement that anything worth fighting for fight back.


Mary Beth (mcbeth) - This is just the right place to post for introduction.

You can start the Beck diet for Life using the workbook; at least one person posting regularly only uses the workbook - doesn't even own the book. Just start marching through the Program days. It's neat that you'll be marching along at about the same place as Nuxmaga.


Nuxmaga - Kudos for identifying Distorted Thinking; it's such a big thing to be able to step outside ourselves to make observations.

And Kudos for starting in the second time.


Readers - Success Skill 9
Get Back on Track - Right Away
. . .
To help yourself respond quickly to mistakes, I'd like you to use a Cheat sheet (page 104) every time you eat unplanned food. It will help you view mistakes as learning experiences rather than catastrophes. Instead of feeling guilty and bad about yourself when you make a mistake, you will be able to benefit from the experience. The Cheat Sheet will help you evolve from thinking, I've blown it ... I might as well start over tomorrow, to thinking, Big deal, I made one mistake ... I deserve a lot of credit for stopping now ... This is a good sign that I'll be successful in the future.
. . .

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 103

WI: -2
Pain: 0/1/4
Activity: 2

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, shoes :yay:, vitamins :yay:, :swim: :yay:

Yesterday was slightly more productive than the day before, using the "do something whenever I get up" strategy, which I intend to continue. I seem to have caught a mild cold from B. (isn't it wonderful to have someone to share EVERYTHING with?)

Even still, I will be on plan today.

onebyone: :yay: for taking decluttering steps. every bit counts. :yay: for staying on track with food, water and exercise!

Mary Beth: :welcome: Congrats on ordering the books! You've found the Beck thread. While there's no "right" way to introduce yourself to the forum, making an introduction here is a good way to get started sharing Beck insights.

I understand wanting to get started while your motivation level is high. For what it's worth, you've already gotten started, just by reaching out to folks here.

Nuxmaga: :welcome2: Most of us have to admit needing to combat the all or nothing attitude. That kind of perfectionist thinking held me back in many areas. Congrats on identifying it and working on a more productive framework.

Kim: You don't have a legitimate reason to feel stressed -- you have SEVERAL! :yay: for being gentle with yourself through this trying period. I wish you tons of luck with getting a house. It's a bit of a dilemma... with all the other stressors, emotionally this might not be the best time for making such a major purchase, but this is such a great market to be buying in. I hope that you find just what you're looking for, at just the right price.

:yay: for all the broccoli! Especially spitting out unplanned food you'd automatically put in your mouth!

I feel pretty good about people noticing the weight loss. Of course, with people who need to do the same, I'm always hoping that my success will inspire them. my thinking is that:


I'm responsible first and foremost for my own health and wellbeing. Others are responsible for theirs.

If I'm successful, others may follow the example. If I don't try, they'll have no example to follow.


That approach seems to be working with my Aunt! She wrote me yesterday to say that she was recommitting herself to the BDS. She's made a start before, but I get the impression that this time is different. I think it's because, at last, she's emailing me mostly about her insights and breakthroughs rather than her trials and setbacks. I've invited her to join us, but she's never been much for online community.

ChinaMaine: :yay: for the OP-ness, and hoorah that your fatigue level is down again! Sorry to hear about your mom's pain. Good luck with encouraging her to seek help. When dealing with chronic pain, it's easy to get into the mindstate that the pain is a permanent feature - that this is just the way it is.

I seem to need adjusting fairly frequently. C stopped doing the myofascial therapy, since teaching B how to do it seems to have worked for that, but the longer I go between adjustments the higher my pain gets.

I'm looking forward to finding out what I can from the Methodist health system.

Beth: Very interesting insights over your temptation and I just don't care. (Congratulations on your career success by the way!)

It sounds to me, like perhaps (and forgive me if I'm reading too much into it) you are not in the habit of doing nice things for yourself "just because". I think getting yourself the art supplies was a fantastic idea. So maybe, to prepare in advance, you can think of a list of caring things you can do for yourself, then do them regularly, before the desire to eat kicks in?

Bill: It may have been the same can of sardines, but it was a different occasion. So yeah, :yay: you x2!

:wave:

...got into the wine and potato chips last night (oh well)

Crazy busy around here.......can I have a wife now pls?!???

I'm working on my Advantages Response Card. I had a long list, but I realized it's stuff I think I "should" make a priority rather than what really motivates me.
So now it's down to:
1. Choosing what I want to eat rather than what my old beliefs, thoughts and history tell me. It's ok to take of myself, and have a sense of peace.
2. Keeping my cholesterol down so I don't have to be on a statin drug.
3. Fitting into my clothes better. That feels good.

Beth Congrats on your job with your unique skill set! I have an MFA in Creative Writing/Poetry, although now I am doing visual art. It does take awhile for my mind to catch up with positive changes in my life--it feels unfamiliar and at times scary, but ultimately good.

Margaret

Coaches/Buddies: Yesterday was a rough day and I made it worse by getting to bed way too late again :( I was dealing with trying to purchase the house all day and my daughter came home from school sick. The stress of trying to buy a house on my own, reading contracts, etc. dealing with a Realtor I don't really like, etc.

Logged everything I ate :broc:
Ended with about a 300 calorie deficit :broc:
Read my Advantages Decks x1 :broc:

Today I have:
Weighed in (-1) :broc:
Eaten on program :broc:

Need to get back to work.

WI-down 1.25 lbs. Made a plan, but I still haven’t gotten my cards back by my coffee machine, so they didn’t get read again today. Food – op, Exercise – op. Credit! :df:

Fatigue - 1.0 (1=Felt Great, 5=Extreme Fatigue).

I got some bad news today – my hubbie lost his job. I’m a bit blue even though I know with some significant belt tightening we can make it work for 6 or more months.

Greenville Beth I use this group as my diet coach – it has worked well for me. And we’re glad to help! It’s an interesting insight that you reward yourself with food. It was a great idea to proactively reward yourself with non-food. Credit!

Anne Sounds like you are getting back to normal – for a day or so… :D Credit for the aquathon, and enjoy your rest day.

Bill Credit for good food choices, and for squeezing exercise into a busy day.

Tera :yay: for the lowered pain level, and for losing 2 lbs. Credit for calorie counting and swimming. When is that Methodist appt again?

Robin ouch for wine and chips. (although I’ve been there, done that…) I hope work calms down soon.

Nuxmaga Credit for creating an advantages list that really will motivate you.

Kim Sounds like a great op day – credit!

Today's weight: 233.0 down 2.0 lbs First goal: 231

I'm down two pounds today which is great, but I expect my weight to go up in the morning. My sister and I go out on Thursday nights and even when I am on plan, as I was tonight, the scale always goes up the next day. I'm assuming it is water weight due to the sodium in the food.

Today was Day 7 - Arrange Your Enviroment - I didn't actually have anything I needed to arrange. I live alone and don't have any junk food in the house as I've been dieting for awhile. Besides, when I bring junk food into the house it ususally ends up in my stomach soon afterwards! I had also already gotten a smaller plate to eat off of.

I do start my new job next week, so I have no idea what the food situation is there. Since I have been teaching college part-time, I haven't had to worry about it. I go teach my classes and then come home. I'm hoping food won't be an issue at my new job.

First off, I just wanted to give everyone a "great job". Everyone seems to be doing so well. Credit All ! :carrot: I feel like I know all of you better than you know me, because before I joined the group I read all the posts for May.

ChinaMaine - Yeah on the 1.25 lbs. That's great considering you've been at your mothers. It's always harder to stay on plan when you're not at home. At least for me! Credit :) I'm sorry to hear about your husband's job. Hopefully, that will turn around quickly.

Bennyhannamama - Buying a home is always difficult. It is quite the emotional process for the buyer and seller. Credit on doing so well under all the stress. :) I hope the little one is better soon.

Nuxmaga (Margaret) - My mother's name is Margaret. Do people call you Peggy as well? It seems to be a nickname for Margaret. Don't ask me why! She goes by both. Credit on the MFA in Poetry. I'm actually, currently working on a MFA in Fiction - I must have a death wish. :?: Also, credit on the ARC. Mine has a list of 20 things...I tend to be long winded!

RobinW - It happens to everyone. Here's to the rest of your evening / day going well!:)

Twilit Tera - Sorry to hear about the cold. That's never fun! You seem to be doing really well on your program. I've noticed that you've really been losing at a steady rate. Credit :carrot: Thanks for the good words about the job. It truly fell into my lap.

BillBlueEyes - Major credit on going to the gym even with other plans. :) It is so easy to find reasons not to go. Passing up a brownie thing...I'm beginning to think you're Superman! :D Super credit!

I find it interesting that you don't enjoy lifting weights. For me, I hate cardio. I find it so boring that I can barely get through it. I've always enjoyed, however; lifting weights, not that I ever do mind you.

Also, thank-you for the support as a diet coach. I'd be honored to be one of yours as well.

Anne - Turning 40 isn't so bad. 30 almost killed me, but 40 wasn't to bad. Major credit on the mountain biking and all the exercise! :carrot: I love to bike. When I lived in Florida, I rode about 30 miles a day. Here in SC there is no where to ride that I feel I can ride without getting run over. I've never been into the mountain biking. I like a nice flat surface! It was great in Florida as I lived on the beach. I do miss the bike riding! Again, great job!

All best,

Beth

Coaches/Buddies Off plan tonight. Feeling lousy and entitled. I could continue but it is stopping here. I am on track as of right now.

The work thing turned a major corner today. I'm feeling a lot better about it, which is cool because it is one less stressor to deal with. Spent about 1 1/2 hour folding laundry in prep for the trip tomorrow. Going to the mountains for the weekend. Haven't decided if I'm going unplugged or not. How could I bear it? But I feel like I "should".

Catch up with you guys on Monday.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Took Gerbilina for a walk after work while the weather outside threatened; CREDIT moi. Grateful to have an elliptical at home with no waiting. And with Patti Smith Horses (1975) blasting loudly on real speakers.

Facing a working lunch which last quarter consisted only of BIG sandwiches, chips, and desserts, I called the organizer and asked for salad in addition. Well, there was a big bowl of mixed greens and a platter of grilled veggies. ("We knew that the kind of people who want salad like grilled veggies.") I was in heaven. CREDIT moi for eating well and CREDIT moi for taking the step to get what I wanted. The salad and veggies were snarfed by all. One more reminder that if real food is provided, people will go for it. I skipped the croutons in the greens and skipped the cookies and brownies. A separate CREDIT moi just for those.


Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for the wine and potato chips. Can you find out who's bringing those chips into the house and smack their little hands?

Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for falling into "entitled." That seems out of the blue. Kudos for "on track as of right now." Thanks for the good demo for us all on dong Success Skill 9: Get Back on Track - Right Away.

Yay for work turning a corner great burden off your mind. Have a neat weekend in the mountains.


Tera (twilit tera) - Yay for the low (1) average pain level for the day. And congrats on the continued (-2) drops in your scale readings.

Kudos for using the "do something whenever I get up" strategy. Gotta nibble around the edges when you can't dive in.


ChinaMaine - Big OUCH on your DH's job. Sending supportive thoughts his way for dealing with the trauma as well as success in his search.

Yay for the fatigue level 1.0 day, especially since it comes so soon after the stress of the Buffalo trip.


Kim (bennyhannamama) - Kudos for eating on plan (deficit even) on a stressful day. Ouch for a sick DD; hope she gets well before she passes it on to you.

Just noticed that the dancing broccoli looks a bit like a green banana on a bad hair day, LOL. But Kudos for having five of them; sure livens up the page.


bucket (bucketwithapurpose) - Waving. Continue to send supportive thoughts.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Kudos for being ahead on Day 7 - Arrange Your Environment. With a smaller plate even. Good work.

We're on the same page about lifting weights. I love my weights. They have BIG cast iron numbers on them. Makes me happy just picking them up. I just suffer a bit of pec envy when the buff guys lift the heavy stuff.


Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for sorting the "should" out of your Advantages List. Gotta love it that "sense of peace" is in item #1.


Readers - what to do . . .
To make your Cheat Sheet, get a 3x5 card. On it, write the following questions:• What was the situation, and what were my sabotaging thoughts?
• Did I eat this food slowly, while sitting down and enjoying every bite?
• How do I feel now that I’ve given in?
• Had I read my Response Cards and Advantages Deck today?
• Did I try any other Resistance Techniques?
• How can I avoid this situation in the future?
• What can I say to myself next time?Carry this card with you. Take it to an office supply store and have it laminated. Whenever you eat unplanned food, pull it out and think about your answers to these questions.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 104

WI: steady
Pain: 0/1/3
Activity: 1

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, water :yay:, resting :yay:

cold is well set in. did not sleep much or well last night. Dr. appointment today.

It will be tough, but I will be on plan.

brain fuzzy. no personals for now. mebbe later when i report on the doctor.

:wave:

Not having a good day. The lack of sleep is out of control which makes the rest of my life feel out of control. Going to bed with the kiddos at 8pm tonight. Tomorrow is a new day. (Oh and credit for posting, even though I feel like such crap!) :broc: Oh and while I'm at it, credit for riding my bike everywhere I went today :broc: and credit for giving myself credit :broc:!

Coaches/Buddies An OK day today. Travel to mountains. Eating was different than usual, but OK. Kids are melting down and not letting each other sleep. I'm not digging this family hotel room stuff, but there's no other way with a 3 and 1 year old. Yes, he's 1 next week. Eek.

Bill The veggies for lunch sounds inspired.

Tera Sorry for your fuzzy brain. Hope tomorrow/today is/was better.

RobinW :wave:

Kim BIG kudos for posting on a bad day!

Anne

Today's weight: 234.6 Up 1.6 lbs. First goal: 231.0

Today is day eight - Create time and engery.

I have lots of time and little responsibility. Crazy but true. That being said, creating time and engery is one area I won't have to struggle with. Thank-goodness as I do and will struggle with many more!

I knew my weight would be up, water weight, due to eating out last night even on plan. Hopefully, it will go back down some tomorrow.

I have been working to be quite mindful while eating and eating much slower. Credit me. :carrot:

I have a busy weekend ahead of me. As I said before, I'm in a show at a gallery that opens a week from today. I need to get my paintings there Monday so they can hang them. I need 10 to 12 and only have 7 done. Of those, I only like 2! I have a lot of painting ahead of me and I'm so not in the mood!

Anne - The mountains sound wonderful. Hopefully the little ones will let you get some rest.

Bennyhannamama - Hope you get some sleep. I've had sleeping problems all of my life, so I know how taxing it can be without sleep.

Tera - Hope you feel better soon.

BillBlueEyes - Major credit on the lunch and way to speak up for yourself. It just goes to show how others are willing to help us on this journey if we simply ask for help.

I go nuts with the weights when I do lift. I like to push myself as far as possible. If I can still walk to the locker room after lifting...I haven't worked hard enough. :D

RobinW :D

It seems a lot of people are having a tough day one way or another. Here's to a better tomorrow!

All best,

Beth

Diet Coaches/Buddies - OP eating included blueberries on my granola for the first time of the US season (North Carolina); CREDIT moi. Did gym; CREDIT moi, noting with pleasure that I'm using good form doing my squats, after a couple of years of telling myself that I shouldn't do squats because of my knees.

Curses on the varmints that ate my sugar snaps and snow peas plants. Oh Well. Perhaps next year I'll put up netting to protect them from the birds. I believe it's the English House Sparrows, which I don't like. Wonder if I'd feel equally annoyed if it were Rose-breasted Grosbeaks? Perhaps some of you experienced gardeners can give me tips on how to keep my equanimity when the joy of gardening become battling mother nature.


Robin (RobinW) - Waving back. Stay busy kick starting the US economy.

Anne (wndranne) - Good grief!! Isn't that one year old the kid you just had a few months ago and just quit nursing? Ouch for one room family intimacy; BTDT. The only silver lining I can remember is that DW and I had to go to sleep with the kids since the light kept them awake.

Tera (twilit tera) - Yay for another low (1) average pain day. Ouch for not sleeping well even on your brand new bed.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Yep, Kudos for giving yourself credit, especially when feeling off. Hope you made it to bed early.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Day 8 - Create Time and Energy seems just the right area to work for a person who needs three to five paintings completed this weekend. You need some of onebyone's work-under-pressure magic, LOL.

Congrats for really pushing yourself with weights; some days I feel that I didn't do enough just for the reason you stated, it's too easy to walk home.


Readers - The One Situation in Which You
Shouldn't Eat When You Planned To . . .

It's actually very important to refrain from eating if you are feeling upset, stressed, or rushed - even it it's time to eat. It's important to wait because you can't possibly enjoy your food when you're feeling this way, and you are likely to feel unsatisfied and overeat.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 103

WI: -0.5
Pain: 0/3/5
Activity: 3

Credits: calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, shoes :yay:, rest :yay:, Dr. visit :yay:, passing up goodies at grocery store :yay:, looking up at the IHOP billboard of one of those stuffed pastries and going "yuck" :yay:

I like Dr. R. I told her the whole story, brought in the patient history report from Dr. G, and one of the journal articles I found linking trochanteric pain to tendinopathy.

She had me cross my legs and bend over, which hurt, and lift my right knee, which didn't. She then said that she agreed with Dr. G that it sounded like bursitis, but that she agreed with me that bursitis does not usually last six months. What's more, it usually strikes in cold weather, so for me to be in pain in the summer is strange.

She's going to investigate every possibility I can imagine. She's ordered blood tests for arthritis. She's going to look at my x-rays and decide then about ordering an MRI to investigate tendinopathy. She saw my lumbar x-ray and suggested the possibility of referred pain from a pinched nerve.

Oh, and being on plan was not so hard as I expected, even tired and sick and going to the grocery store to fill a prescription and planning a dessert, which turned out to be bananas with a little chocolate syrup and whipped cream. :)

Sinus infection. Nothing smells very appetizing. :) I'm still drippy but my throat isn't as sore. Should have no trouble being on plan today!

Kim: Progress! :yay: You came and posted after a lousey day! Big fat credit!

Anne: Wishing you luck and sanity traveling with the youngsters.

Beth: :yay: for progress on mindful eating!

Bill: Sorry to hear about the garden getting munched. I do like house sparrows - they give me something to look at out the window when the ducks are absent. But they are tiny.... I don't know if my grandparents strategy would work. They used to keep blueberries that were favorites with the local wildlife, and they put up a net shelter to keep things out.

Was about to go to bed now, still feeling overwhelmed with life, but a little bit better after some sleep last night. Thought, I'll just start posting on the BDS board once I'm back in the swing of things again... BUT I realized that is NOT a good idea :)

Too tired to write much, but I do want to just say that I took the kids for ice cream today and ordered myself a (baby size) frozen yogurt with sprinkles (I've been in the habit of doing this for several weeks now. I got it to go because I didn't really feel like eating it then. Figured I would eat it tonight, but haven't really been dying for it. (Surprising since ice cream, etc. is one of my favorite things.) So, I'm going to bed without eating it- yipppee! :broc:

Thanks for the kudos on posting on a crappy day :)

Today's weight: 234.4 Down: .2 First goal: 231

Today was day nine - Select an exercise plan. This is a tough one. Like many people, I don't like to exercise. As Beck says, that's besides the point! Starting a new job next week, it will take a bit to figure out when the best time to exercise is. I am not a morning person and will not get up early to work out, so there is no point in setting myself up to fail. I'll figure it out. Tomorrow, I will be pushing a mower for a couple of hours, so that will be my exercise.

Credit me for eating mindfully, staying on-plan, and mowing my yard. Tomorrow is my folks yard.

I have a hard time with hunger at night. I try to leave enough calories so I can eat later in the evening. I'm out of calories, so I think, I will go to bed early to keep my hands out of the cookie jar...so to speak!

Tera - Great job with sticking on plan today even with being sick and the Dr.'s appointment. Credit! :carrot: It sounds like you've found a good doctor. That's great! It's not always easy to find someone that you're comfortable with and truly listens to you.

Bill - Great job on going to the gym. Squats are killers, but they do the job. I can't help you with your garden problem, but I feel your pain. I have to pecan trees in my backyard. Last year they were full of pecans. The squirrels knocked every single one of them off the trees before they were ready. At least they enjoyed them.

All best,

Beth

Coaches/Buddies What a day. My best of bad choices included things like donuts and Coca Cola. Finished it off with a McSalad since I had to have some vegetables. Yikes. Race staff got hit with food poisoning so we were scrambling to help out on little notice. I got to babysit the race director's kids along with my own. Calories not so terrible in the end, believe it or not. Yes, I do love junk food, but not ONLY junk food. Bleck. Credit me.

Not much time for personals, but Tera sounds like an awesome doc's appointment. Hurray!

See you all tomorrow or Monday.

Anne

Diet Coaches/Buddies - Made great food choices for dinner; CREDIT moi. Agreed to make dinner if DW would go shopping with me. (When I go shopping alone, I never buy anything; I HATE shopping.) Walked about and collected a rotisserie chicken, a wad of broccoli-raab very lightly sauteed with Parmesan cheese, and a wild rice mixture with cranberries and cashews. Made a salad with, ahem, my lettuce picked the night before. Ate on the patio at 8pm still light out and warm. The good life for sure.

Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for life among "best of bad choices." And Ouch for food poisoning - glad you and family avoided it. Hope the mountains are otherwise living up to your expectations.

Tera (twilit tera) - Dr. R sounds like a winner - carefully listening to the info you bring to the investigation. Hope that continues.

Ouch that sinus infection means "Nothing smells very appetizing." And, of course, Yay for the respite from wanting to eat all the good smelling foods, LOL.


Kim (bennyhannamama) - A string of goodies here: Kudos for choosing a small frozen yogurt; Kudos for not woofing it down immediately; and Kudos for posting here. Not a bad day at all.

Beth (Greenville Beth) - Yep, Kudos for giving yourself credit. Smart to step gingerly choosing an exercise schedule to fit your new work schedule, but it sounds like some weights will be part of it.

Ouch for those squirrels getting to your pecans. I love southern pecan trees; don't think I could have a productive tree in my yard and not eat a zillion pounds of each crop.


Readers - In choosing to follow this program - in order and as described - you are choosing not only to lose weight, but also to lose weight for life.

The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 105

What a great Sunday morning. Nippy in Minnesoda this morning, but forecast to reach a high of 80.

BillBE, what an incredible evening meal you enjoyed with DW last night. Outdoor dining is simply the best.

Read a post this a.m. from one of our fellow 3fc-ers with a lot of struggles in her life right now. I found myself giving her advice about exercise. Methinks I need to take some of my own medicine.

Yesterday was a whirlwind of gardening morning and evening with some serious family obligation stress taking up the day's middle. Woke up this morning over-joyed with the day's prospects, so I guess that exercise thing really is true. Of course it doesn't hurt that it was all gardening. I have always insisted there are only a few good reasons to work up a sweat. ;);)

My best to all.

WI: +1 :?:
Pain: 0/1/3
Activity: 1

Credits: rest :yay:, calorie counting :yay:, vitamins :yay:, water :yay:

It was a very lazy day, but still coughing, sneezing, etc. Getting lots of water helps. I will be on plan today.

Kim: :yay: for ordering really small yogurt and :yay: for not eating it!

Beth: :yay: for not making plans you know you won't follow through on. I firmly believe that there is exercise for everyone, and that it isn't the same exercise for all of us. I thought I hated exercise until I started working out in the pool.

Anne: Yikes is right! Glad that the calories didn't go off the chart. :yay: for getting through a tough day.

Bill: Your meals always sound great!

Maryblu: The mood lift is the #1 reason I keep going back to the pool. Burning calories is a fringe benefit. :yay: for your exercise insight.

Can't believe it's almost June. See y'all on the next thread!

Getting ready for company at dinner. Slowing down my eating could make a big difference, if I remember!

I haven't been feeling well this weekend and my laptop is DOA. I'm on DHs right now. I feel at such a loss not to have a working computer...

Food: I was off plan yesterday but don't know how many calories since I don't have a computer... I was definitely op Friday and have been doing well today too.

Exercise: op Friday but offplan Sat and Sun, I keep going to bed to sleep instead of doing anything useful. I've gotten my TOM three times in four weeks. No wonder I'm tired and feeling blech, right? I take a ton of iron everyday, so I don't think it's iron defiiciency...

I feel huge and bloated, so didn't even weigh myself today.

Take care all!

Made it home. I'm wiped. Back tomorrow! :wave:

Anne

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