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aaneri
04-12-2009, 12:46 AM
So, I have fallen off track for the past week...but I didnt really how bad it was.

I went back to WW this morning...knowing it wasnt gonna be good...but I need to see the numbers to scare me a bit.

COME TO FIND OUT...i gained 8 pounds in 2 weeks...I was ridiciulous with my eating and I admit that...but arrrghhh

I want to get back on track but I am realizing that I have some barries to weight loss...

1.) I DONT KNOW WHAT TO EAT... I know like WW way of planning, but I want to watch calories...not points...too tedious for me...I need to look how to count calories

2.) I cant get into an excercise routine..I just started living with my boyfriend in February and he is supportive and wants to lose weight...HOWEVER...we do not agree on the same places and times to walk. I like to work out in the morning...not after work...i am too tired...and he likes to walk up huge hills...and i hate it and i get shin splints and it ruins my walks...

I know I am being difficult...but I lost 50 pounds before and I know that I know how to do it...my own way...I just cant seem to find it anymore...and it's so difficult and its effecting my whole life now. I feel so bad about my self image...its bad and I hate living like this. Yuck.

OK, any advice and pity would be appreciated.


Glory87
04-12-2009, 01:19 AM
Easiest thing with food

1. Downsize your dinner plates, dinner plates used to be 9" most are now 12"

2. Imagine your plate is divided into 4 equal parts. Fill 1/2 with veggies, 1/4 with lean protein, 1/4 with healthy carb (brown rice, whole wheat pasta, sweet potato, ec)

3. Read the nutrition label on everything

Rosinante
04-12-2009, 03:07 AM
Last time I was in a slimming club, SW I think, I went away on holiday for 2 weeks and came back 11lbs heavier. The club leader was all How is that possible? In Two Weeks? If she couldn't understand it, she wasn't the leader for me!

I frequently eat off smaller plates, it really does deceive the eye, and I've lost 100+lbs before mostly through portion control. This time I'm calorie counting. It might help you to look at some of the calorie counting websites, they do make it very easy to track what you eat. fitday, sparkpeople, dailyplate.


dutchgirl
04-12-2009, 03:23 AM
Having a pity party?
I'm bringing the cake and balloons!
:balloons::hb::balloons::hb::balloons:
Go ahead and feel sorry for yourself - for a bit.
But remember, parties do end!
After that, it's time to get into your normal routine again and get back to exercising and eating wisely.
Check out sites like Sparkpeople or Fitday. Not only can they help you count calories and track your exercise, you can also find a lot of good advise (not that you're short on that here;)), Sparkpeople also has exercise videos in 10 minute chunks, which might help you get back into moving.
And come to 3FC a lot, it helps!

derrydaughter
04-12-2009, 04:49 AM
I've been doing the pity party thing myself. I didn't gain 8 pounds like you did, but I am struggling. It's like there are two of me. One of me wants to do all the right thing and can accomplish this, the other me doesn't care and wants to eat all the bad things and lots of it. The other me is very lazy as well and hates exercise.
Weather it's WW points or counting calories or just plain old common sense and portion control, you do need to find something that will work for you.
Also, if your boyfriend doesn't cooperate as far as walking goes, there is no rule that says you must go for a walk with him, is there? Maybe if you assert yourself and just go when you feel like it, he will eventually join you?
Good luck!

littlejojo
04-12-2009, 06:16 AM
I'll join your pity party. Putting weight back on got me to this site and I really appreciate all the advice & information here. We're allowed to feel down for a wee bit as long as we dust ourselves off & get back on track we'll be right.

Jeannette311
04-12-2009, 08:33 AM
Count me in! Luckily, my shins have been feeling better and I'm pulling myself slowly out of my funk.

aaneri
04-12-2009, 09:34 AM
Thanks for everyone's support...I did not reading on the Internet last night and it looks likes I should start out with 1800 calories...

One big issue I am havingis I have gotten into thie routine of eating a bowl of ceral at night around 7-8...It's about 200 calories...any feedback on this?

midwife
04-12-2009, 09:42 AM
Calorie counting means you can work in your bedtime bowl of cereal as long as your calories allow for it.

As for the exercise, you need to do it for you. Kill the excuses. If you want to do it, you will find a way. I do have a running partner and she is awesome. We run together 2 times a week. I run on my own another 3-4 times a week. I simply cannot wait on someone else for all of my exercise. DH is welcome to come along, but I do not depend on him or anyone else and neither should you. :drill:

As for the 8 lbs in 2 weeks, some of it is probably water retention or bulk in your intestines. Drink plenty, eat healthy, and you should see the scale move soon.

fatmad
04-12-2009, 09:55 AM
I'm in for your pity party, working to get out of my funk. I was there while my Dad was critically ill in hospital, I really fell off the map with food. I was near his bedside in a little quiet room, nearly 24 hours a day, I hardly left, and ate crap and didn't exercise except a bit of walking. Have got back down to my weight before this happened, but not back to fitness yet, haven't worked the exercise bit in much.
I am like you, and sometime allow someone else to dictate my exercise timing and that never works, I have to do it myself, and welcome DH or DD or a friend if they want to come.
Ok, party over, get rid of the hangover and lets go for a walk.

fatmad
04-12-2009, 09:57 AM
[QUOTE=derrydaughter;2694817 It's like there are two of me. One of me wants to do all the right thing and can accomplish this, the other me doesn't care and wants to eat all the bad things and lots of it. The other me is very lazy as well and hates exercise.

![/QUOTE]

LOL, I could have written it and definitely live it.

kaplods
04-12-2009, 09:57 AM
There's nothing wrong with a 200 calorie evening snack as long as you're budgeting it in.

If you can get on the scale without beating yourself up when you see a number you don't like, you might try weighing daily. It's not for everyone, but for me it really helped me understand normal fluctuations and nips backtracking in the bud. I might allow a pound or two to slip, but I catch backsliding before it becomes an avalanche.

Also, you're giving yourself a lot of conditions, that aren't necessary. Both points and calories can be found quite easily on line (whenever I want to know the calorie count I just google the food name and calories (apple, calories - for example). I tend to eat a rather unbalanced diet, so I follow an exchange plan. Because carbohydrates are also a problem food for me, I chose a lower carb exchange plan (I modified the 1500 calorie high protein plan I found on hillbillyhousewife.com - they had three different levels of carbohydrates and 4 or 5 different calorie levels, to choose from). I'm not saying that those are the plans for you, but you don't have to have a perfect plan to get started. I know people say find the plan you can do for life, but you don't have to find your lifeplan before you start - just before you decide to give up.
Exercise really is the same. I do understand your position, because my husband and I went through that too. We both need and want to lose weight and exercise, but we have different ideas on what that means and how to accomplish it. In some ways it's even more difficult trying to work together than alone - so that's what we've chosen to do. We basically prepare our own meals, and exercise alone also. Sometimes we come together on a meal or a walk - but it's a happy surprise, not a pre-requisite. I know it's all easier said than done, but it can be done. Making that first step is the hardest, but success builds on success.

Keep it as simple as you can, and if you can squelch worry and just take it one step at a time, you'll have a lot less stress - and I think stress is the number one killer of weight loss plans. It isn't lack of success that drives most of us away, it's the perceived lack of success - we assume we're going to fail anyway, so why bother keeping up the charade - that kind of thinking has to be kicked to the curb (that gets easier too, the more practice you get).

If any of my advice comes of preachy, I don't mean it that way. It's taken me over 3 decades to "get this right," and I'm pretty excited about it, but I don't underestimate how hard it is. I'm not one that will tell you this is easy, but I will say that there are ways to make it easier, but trial and error is the only way you can find your own tricks, since there doesn't seem to be any that work equally well for everybody. Just trust that you will find your way, and get started with the experimenting.

newleaf123
04-12-2009, 10:08 AM
The important thing about the 200 cal cereal is to use a measuring cup to make sure you are eating the portion size that goes with 200 cal. Oftentimes, the cereal portion size can be just 3/4 cup, which may be a lot less than you are used to eating.

So that's my one bit of advice to go with the calorie counting - portion measuring. Don't forget to measure the milk that you pour in, too.

Good luck!

aaneri
04-12-2009, 10:21 AM
Ok, here is a sample meal plan of what I will eat tomorrow...let me know what you think and what can be improved

Breakfast: cream of wheat (200 cals)
Snack: Banana (100) and snack bar 160
Lunch: P&J sanwich (210) toasted chips (130)
Snack: hard boiled eggs (140)
Dinner: 3turkey meatballs (190) and 1 cup of spagehetti (250) and sauce (100) Parm cheese (60)
Snack: bowl of cereal 160

This comes out to be 1300 calories...for my weight, I should be at around 1800...any advice??

midwife
04-12-2009, 10:27 AM
Looks like a good start, but where are your veggies? ;) How about some broccoli or spinach or zucchini with that spaghetti? You could add some almonds or walnuts with the banana, either in addition to or in lieu of the snack bar. Maybe have an apple or some raw veggies with hummus or peanut butter with those hard boiled eggs. You could even have some veggies or fruit with the sandwich.

Looks like a great start! Throw in some healthy fats to bump up the calories a bit....and veggies! :lol:

Windchime
04-12-2009, 10:30 AM
The important thing about the 200 cal cereal is to use a measuring cup to make sure you are eating the portion size that goes with 200 cal. Oftentimes, the cereal portion size can be just 3/4 cup, which may be a lot less than you are used to eating.

So that's my one bit of advice to go with the calorie counting - portion measuring. Don't forget to measure the milk that you pour in, too.

Good luck!

This was really important for me, so it bears repeating. I knew that 4 oz was a portion of chicken, but I didn't know how much 4 oz was! I was eyeballing, trying to guess, but really I had no clue at all. So I bought a food scale that someone here recommended (Biggest Loser scale at Bed, Bath and Beyond) for $20. And now I know how much 4 oz of chicken is--it's more than I thought! I also measure out cereal, and the milk that goes on it. I may not always have to do this but for now I do, until I learn what a cup of cheerios really looks like.

I use The Daily Plate for calorie counting. I log everything*; it's the only thing that keeps me on track. It's just too easy for me to forget that bite of chocolate or that glass of sugary iced tea otherwise, and those things all add up.

*I mentioned yesterday in a different thread that I didn't know how much a "pat" of butter was; turns out, it's just about a teaspoon. So now I'm measuring out even the butter on my toast and the sugar in my tea. Not estimating those at ALL like I was.

Good luck! You can do this; we can do this together. We are here for you!

aaneri
04-12-2009, 10:35 AM
What do you mean by healthy fat?

JayEll
04-12-2009, 11:53 AM
I added up what you put down and it came out to 1700 calories. You might want to check that.

Healthy fat is unsaturated or monosaturated fat. The body needs some fat in order to stay healthy. Avoid fried foods, saturated fats (which are most animal fats).

Jay

Glory87
04-12-2009, 12:27 PM
Examples of healthy fat:

Nuts, nut butters, olive oil, salmon, avocado

You need a little bit, every day. They are very very good for you!

choirgirlhotel
04-12-2009, 02:18 PM
Counting points isn't that hard, in fact, 1 weight watchers point is equal to about 60 calories. 23 points per day is about 1300 calories. 25 points per day is about 1500. Roughly.

Weight Watchers IS counting calories - they just assign a points value to everything and account for fiber/fat so you don't have to do so much math.

I agree with the measuring thing. That's a great thing that Weight Watchers taught me. Measure/weigh everything!

~Choirgirl~

dutchgirl
04-12-2009, 02:46 PM
You're way short on fruit and veg:cb::carrot::broc:

derrydaughter
04-12-2009, 03:18 PM
Aaneri, if you have a particular website that you found that tells you how many calories you need per day, I would love if you would post a link. I would like to kind of work calories into my Weight Watchers plan, if possible. I have had very little success with WW and maybe calories would give me more freedom? I don't know, but I am willing to give it a shot for a week or so to see if there is a change.

Fatmad. It's funny how you said you could have written what I wrote about there being two of me and all that. Then, I read what you had to say, here, about your dad:

"I was there while my Dad was critically ill in hospital, I really fell off the map with food. I was near his bedside in a little quiet room, nearly 24 hours a day, I hardly left, and ate crap and didn't exercise except a bit of walking. Have got back down to my weight before this happened, but not back to fitness yet, haven't worked the exercise bit in much."

I'm so sorry. :hug: But, I could have written exactly that. My dad died of bone cancer and I was so busy racing back and fourth from home to the hospital, taking care of everyone else except myself. I ate crap. When he was diagnosed with bone cancer and the realization sunk in that he was going to die, I was near goal. I was 148 pounds. I went up as far as 171 and now am 161, but still really high. I was miserable and ate my way through my grief. Them, mom died 4 months and 6 days after dad and my world fell apart. Food was and is my comfort. It's so hard to stay on track. I know what I should be doing, but I lose control so easily. So, I am right here with you.

Aaneri, I looked over your food for the day. What are you making your cream of wheat with and are you having milk with that cereal? You need calcium. I don't see enough of that in that one day's diet. It's funny, midwife noted that there wasn't enough veggies and I saw that too, but the calcium is so important.

Maybe I'll type in a journal for tomorrow here, if my mood strikes. It will be good.
One thing I try to do at the beginning of the day is to plan dessert (so important for me) and dinner and then figure out how many WW points I'll have left to use in the day. I plan the rest of my meals and snacks accordingly.