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03-27-2009, 08:58 PM
There have been a couple of threads so far about gardening and such, but it seems like a good time to get the Official Garden Thread going for 2009. So, I guess I'll start.


I got my veggies started indoors. I've been wanting to get a Veggie Garden going for the past couple years and I think this year I should have more time for taking care of it. I'm going with the Square Foot Garden since it is above ground and uses clean soil. That way it should be easier to deal with. I'm planning for 2-8x4 beds and 4-2x2 boxes for berries since they like to spread.

I got the longer harvest veggies started now and in about a month I'll start the others. The ladies at Albertson's gave me three large cake boxes for $.99. Way better than having to eat my way to the cheap greenhouses. ;) (Any comments concerning the butt-ugly, burnt orange countertops will result in :boxing:)

I'm also doing a 3 Sister's Garden, so I started the corn. Once it reaches 4 in. tall, I'll get the beans and squash going. There are Tomatoes, Peppers, Arugula, Spinach, Broccoli, Carrots and Cucumbers in there also.


Hyacinths and Crocus have been blooming. Tulips and Daffodils have sprouted. Roses are beginning to bud. I do have some major work to do to my lawn. It has almost completely been takin' over by weeds and Morning Glory.

CAVEAT to ALL GARDENERS: Watch out what you plant. Some really pretty "flowers" are actually weeds and once they get a foothold, it is he!! trying to get rid of them.


03-27-2009, 11:02 PM
Why don't you move somewhere where you can grow stuff outside?

03-27-2009, 11:49 PM
If I wanted to grow nuts I could move to Southern California. There's all kinds of 'em thare.:p

03-28-2009, 03:24 AM
you two crack me up.
no wonder you're so sassy operator- 10 days no cigs!! :)

i have a yard for the first time and i have no idea what to do. i am thinking i'll just plant some dahlias and zinnias they are my favorite. i don't want to do a lot because well i'm lazy and i won't do upkeep and this place is a rental anyway. won't be here next spring.
what are some good low maintenance garden items?

03-28-2009, 03:29 AM
Check out that Square Foot Garden site. Heck, you could even take it with you when you get a home of your own. Just do 4x4 gardens, unscrew them and off you go.

03-28-2009, 03:31 AM
Oooh, oooh, me me me!

I'm another Square Foot Gardener, in CA so I have plants in the ground and going strong already. The Amish Snap Peas, particularly, are coming up so nicely.

So far, I have in the ground and germinated (in 2 3'x8' beds):
Scarlet Nantes Carrots
5 Color Silverbeet Chard
Leaf Lettuces
Amish Snap Peas
Early Scarlet Globe Radishes
Green Beans (Kentucky Wonder Bush)
Purple Green Beans (Red Swan Beans) (both beans are the first of 3 successive every 2 I get a continual harvest throughout the season)
Yellow Crookneck Squash

Planned to grow, but not yet in the ground:
4 kinds of tomato (Early Girl, Green Zebra, Gold Medal, and a cherry variety called Mexico Midget
2 sweet bell peppers (2 purple pepper plants, 1 red pepper plant)
1 jalapeno
2 eggplant varieties (one Japanese, 1 additional variety)
Genovese Basil
Lemon Cucumber
Small-size watermelons (Shining Light)
Waltham Butternut Squash

Herbs, on my patio, are:

03-28-2009, 04:58 AM
uuh duh! I checked that site out and that is freaking awesome. i love it.

03-28-2009, 03:06 PM
We were gardening today too. Dh made be four boxes 4x10 and I covered the bottoms with cardboard we've been collecting this winter. Over that goes all our yard waste, compost, shredded paper, old straw ... and some purchased soil.
I've done that for a couple of years in a heap but DH likes the tidy box idea better.

We will have potatoes, onions, tomatos, peppers, herbs, beets, carrots, salad greens ... and I always come up with something last minute.
I have started two kinds of parsley and basil.

I ordered seeds from a heritage seed company this year.

I'm going to try peas that will climb on a trellis up against the house. And I always grow little squashes and zucchini in the flower beds.

03-28-2009, 03:54 PM
i'm building a garden in my yard...going to be a raised bed using a combo of topsoil, decomposed horse manure, and peat moss. Just placed some of my veggies in the indoor growing to get them started. I'm planning to plant cukes, squash, kentucky bush beans, cherry and regular tomatoes, basil, swiss chard, spring mix lettuce, and large leaf lettuce...i can't wait until fresh veggies arrive. I did start my indoor planting about 1 - 2 wks late but i was waiting for a growing mat. Oh well..they'll be out there end of april or beginning march. can't wait

03-28-2009, 03:55 PM
and come fall i think i'm going to plant some asparagus root crowns so we can enjoy that in a few years. we'll see (:

03-29-2009, 12:58 PM
Oh really? :nono:

Well, I do have a lot of stuff in my winter garden right now -- radishes, green onions, cilantro, spinach, parsely, mint and broccoli.

My baby stuff for summer is mostly in the ground -- tomatoes, peppers, eggplant and seeds for basil, dill, "ronde de nice" zucchini. Doing the cucumbers and zinnia seeds today. We don't do that starting-in-the-house thing here. I start everything where it's going to end up!

If I wanted to grow nuts I could move to Southern California. There's all kinds of 'em thare.:p

03-29-2009, 01:03 PM
I have to say my square foot garden is by far the easiest gardening I inground stuff constantly needs attention for some crisis or another!

I really recommend the sq. ft. gardening to people with limited time. Here in L.A. we can keep it going all year -- it's like a live salad bar in the winter!

03-29-2009, 03:23 PM
Operator 265, thanks for that link!
I have a tiny garden, but for Amsterdam even tiny is sheer luxury, and I really want to grow some veg. This is going to work for me, I think.

03-29-2009, 09:04 PM
it gets too cold here to grow veggies year round....but i have been thinking of doing some year round container growing next winter...the cold is why i do start the seeds indoor. We get so very hot in the summer, it helps to get the seedlings to a certain point then in the ground and started prior to the heat of the summer. i wish i lived some place where we could grow plants year round.

03-30-2009, 10:34 AM
Oh, oh, oh!!! My Arugula has sprouted and I can just see a little teeny tiny corn sprout about to come out. I'm so excited I could pee my pants!:o :carrot: (too bad they don't have a dancing ear of corn. Anyone else think the carrot might be a perv?)

03-30-2009, 03:54 PM
I did wonder about the carrot.
But i'm sure the banana and the broccoli are no innocents either.

04-02-2009, 07:51 PM
OK, so everything has sprouted except the 3 types Peppers and Spinach. So we have Corn, 5 types Tomatoes, Arugula, Broccoli, Cucumber and Carrots.:carrot: I also made some gift starters of the Tomatoes and Peppers for my neighbors. I got a big 4 lb. box of strawberries that makes a great green house for the portable stuff. COOL!!! I love finding cheap ways to be charitable.:D

I will start the Beans(3 types) and Squash(Medley, I get what I get) that goes with the Corn in the 3 Sisters Garden in another week or so. Pretty appropriate garden, I think, since this is my FAVORITE forum.:love:

I was going to plant blue, black, rasp and strawberries, buuut, after looking into it I've decided to just go with rasp and strawberries. Ain't waitin' no 3 years for blueberries.:nono: I don't even want to be in UT that long.:snooty: Also, going to try some watermelons and, maybe, cantaloupe. I'm still going to get some Lettuce, Potatoes, Celery and Garlic. I have my herb seeds, but I'll plant those outside when I start the main garden and I'll plant Marigolds in the empty spaces to keep the bugs and cats away. Wanna go as organic as is possible. Square Foot is supposed to be really good for that.:yes:

I just wish the weather would decide WTH it is gonna do. For Pete's Sake, I've gone from Summer to Winter 10 times this week. Seriously, it has gone from one extreme to another up to 3 times in a day.:rolleyes: It is making me nuts. I know I can't plant outside until late May, but, I would at least like to get a good start at tearing out the grass and getting a compost pile started. I'm not good with patience, can you tell?:dizzy:

So, what's going on for everyone else. Even you brats in nice areas where you can plant year 'round.:p

04-02-2009, 08:27 PM
my seedlings are doing great and growing like crazy...except for the peppers??? but they are quite happy..should take a pic of my happy newbies. Need to actually move my cukes to a bit large pots..they've started to outgrow their initial pot. I can't wait until i get some planting done outdoors in a few weeks.

04-02-2009, 09:07 PM
Would it be wrong to show pictures?

Bed 1: Eggplant, tomato, radish, and jalapeno are the immediately visible plants. There also is swiss chard, some bush beans, and seeds started in the back to grow trellised squash and cucumber. Pepper transplants will go in this bed once they get here.

Bed 2: Basil and Amish Snap Peas are the most visible. Bed also contains lettuce, nantes carrots, Red Swan beans, lettuces, and more trellised squash in the back. The tomato transplants will be going in here, when they arrive.

Herbs - Mint, Thyme, Cilantro, and Chives. I know the mint should be in it's own pot but am keeping it really well trimmed to prevent takeover. Using the leaves in tea...yum!

Since I took the pictures, the beans have really come up FAST.

04-02-2009, 10:04 PM
looks great mandalinn...jealous. But soon my plants will be in the ground too.

04-02-2009, 10:44 PM
Pictures are most welcome and completely necessary in this thread. Looks Fantabulous Mand!!!:cp: Your beds are the same size I'm going for, 'cept I'm gonna add a 2x4' "bridge" at the back to form a "U" shape.

Gee Gator, I guess there is just something slow about the peppers. I saw one of the seeds near the surface on mine. It had a teeny tiny little root, maybe a 1/4". Hopefully before to much longer.......:goodluck:

Just got back from the store with more seeds-Scallions, Lettuce(3 types), Orange Peppers, Watermelon, Cantaloupe, Red Onions and Garlic. Also got some Marigold seeds. I couldn't be overdoing it, could I.:hyper:

04-07-2009, 09:00 AM
well my peppers FINALLY sprouted (about a week behind everything else). All my seedlings did so well i think i'll actually have to find homes for a few of the baby plants...i won't have enough space to plant everything...but i'm glad my seedlings did well. I'm going to finish getting my garden ready next week and then plant the seedling at the end of the month (considering it was 70 on sunday and today it is 30F...burr). By then the plants should be nice and trained (taking them out for "outdoor visits" LOL) and be good and strong to get planted in the ground. I can't wait to have fresh tasty veggies.

04-07-2009, 11:08 AM
2 of my peppers are barely, kinda, sorta, maybe trying to sprout. Heck, the Marigold's and lettuce I planted on 4/2 are sprouting already, buuuut, the peppers are trying to make me insane.

04-07-2009, 08:59 PM
i know operator..i'm starting to think peppers are a bit on the shy side and don't want to sprout LOL. I'm glad i still have my seedlings inside since we got snow flurries today. Man squash are so insane right now..i need warm weather so I can get them out side soon before they outgrown their pots. I think next year i'll plant my peppers about 2 wk before everything else LOL.

04-07-2009, 09:02 PM
A little word to the wise if your peppers DON'T sprout (mine failed entirely) and you're hoping for heirloom varieties....Seed Saver's Exchange sells and ships heirloom pepper and tomato transplants in packs of 6 plants.

04-09-2009, 03:19 AM
Thanks for the link Mandalinn. The peppers are finally sprouting, but I may try some of those too.

Just got my Squash and Beans started for the 3 Sister's Garden. Also, I am getting some Tomatoes, Peppers, Beans, Cukes and Marigolds going for a friend at work. He says since I'm sharing the planting, they'll share in the harvest. IDK though, looking at my counter, I may already be in trouble.:o

The roses are really starting to take off out front. Guess I better get the lawn fertilized and put some weed kill on it these days off. We also need to dig out the grass in the back for the veggies and build the frame at least. 'Course I have until the middle of May at the earliest, but, I wanna get it ready and in place early.

04-10-2009, 06:30 AM
I'm a newbie at gardening, but I'm really getting into the green thumb thing this year. Here are some things I'm growing:
Moonflowers (I have the seeds starting indoors)
Catnip (also starting seeds indoors)
Night Blooming Cereus - I recently received two clippings in the mail. They're staying inside as houseplants.
Banana trees- one super dwarf, the other a commercial Chiquita variety
Plants I intend on growing:
Night Blooming Jessamine
White Gardenia
Morning Glories
Evening Primrose
My mother is also planting all kinds of things as she does every year (herbs, tomatoes, and countless flowers among them), but my only job in those will be watering them.

04-16-2009, 08:19 PM
So i know a few of you were talking aobut doing container gardens instead of in ground gardens. I was originally planning to plant a garden in the ground, however, due to house construction...the garden wouldn't survive (right in the way of the job). So i've decided to do container gardening...and found a few books one talking about self watering plant boxes. So I looked on line and found out how expensive they were and then found out how to build some on your if anyone else is's a website.
just make sure if you do use this don't use moisture control soil (it will suck up all the water and become water logged).

04-17-2009, 09:47 AM
Life has been busy but i do have seedling growing on my dinning room table.I have issue with my peppers. They have not sprouted and everything else is getting real leaves already. Guess they are just slower starters.
I still have to get my garden tilled but its been so wet here and cool. Maybe in a week or so we can get it tilled and these little babies will be ready to go in the ground. We are doing big boy tomatoes, cherry tomatoes, bell peppers, jalapono, cucumbers, zuch, yellow crooked neck squash, sweet banana peppers and i am tempted to try eggplant. I am also doing a few rows of flower in my garden to help keep bugs away and bring on the bees.

04-20-2009, 10:34 AM
We were able to get the garden tilled right before major rain fall on sat evening.My arms are sore from all the raking and shoveling i did. Great exercise though!!
I am thinking of checking out plants in a few days at the greenhouse and see what they have to offer.I am planning on getting onions in the ground this week. Still have to wait till closer to mothers day in our area to plant anything else.

04-20-2009, 04:46 PM
I pulled my first radishes today...delicious on my salad for lunch!

04-25-2009, 10:41 PM
Wow madalin I bet it was great!! Wish it hadnt been so wet here this spring I was really wanting to do radishes and lettuce. OH well we will have to buy those but hopefully everything else will produce great! After checking the long range weather forcast we decided to go ahead and plant. Spent hours planting and raking and using the ho. It feels so good to play in the dirt again. We are suppost to get lots of rain next week and it should help those little babies grow.

04-26-2009, 10:52 AM
going to get my baby plants in containers today and i'll get my lettuce started today. Its a gorgeous day...great for planting. The seedling plants are getting so big they are almost outgrown their peat pots. Can't wait for fresh veggies.

04-26-2009, 08:43 PM
well i spent about half the day making 3 self watering containers then planting many different things. Got seeds laid for lettuce, planted all my seedling plants. Feeling good, now just waiting for my plants to work their magic.

05-06-2009, 08:56 AM
I saw blooms on my cherry tomato plants.I also am seeing the buds for my big boy tomatoes starting. Black birds are pulling up my seedlings as fast as I plant them. Any idea how to keep them away?? I have planted some of my squash plants 3 times.
I forgot how much work in involved when you expand the size of a garden.I cant keep the grass out.Its a daily battle when its dry enough to get in the garden. We have gotten so much rain!

05-06-2009, 06:51 PM can always put some netting/mesh over the area until the seedlings take place..that would help keep the birds away.

My plants are doing well...they are growing...but no buds/flowers yet...i keep an eye on them every day. My basil is doing awesome..growing like a weed. We too have had lots of rain lately. I had to move some of the containers under cover to give them time to dry out some.

05-06-2009, 07:04 PM
I have my first early girl tomato...less than a centimeter across for now, but it set nicely and is growing every day. I have bell peppers that definitely are about to flower, but haven't quite done so yet, and then smaller transplants still just focusing on growing leaves. The chard is getting bigger and bigger, and so are the non-early tomato varieties (We have 4 total varieties in this year). And my amish snap peas are flowering away, so it looks like I will get a crop out of them after all (wasn't sure, as we got a bit of a heat wave and the plants got a bit sad for a few days, but they've come back swinging).

05-11-2009, 07:36 PM
Too many photos today to post here - I uploaded them to a Picasa album:

05-12-2009, 12:32 AM
Those are looking nice! way to go on keeping that stuff going, I know what a Davis heatwave feels like!
By the way, have you ever tried eating the baby leafs on the beets? they are rather yummy in a salad.

05-13-2009, 08:44 AM
my mater plants are getting big but no flowers yet. The squash have little buds so hopefully they will bloom soon. The lettuce has about 3 more weeks before its ready...but its looking good. I watch my garden every day in wait and anticipation of fresh veggies LOL

05-29-2009, 02:11 AM
OK folks, it ain't all about the veggies ya know. Wanted to take this chance to show off my favorite roses.

This is Rainbow's End. It blooms then fades to a different color. Then, the next time it blooms, it's a whole new ball game. Just never know what you're gonna get as you can tell by the new one that's kinda peeking out from behind my butt. :o

This is Fire and Ice. Kinda matches my personality, eh.

05-30-2009, 05:39 AM
I love gardening pictures! You all should post more!! ;)

The strawberries I planted last year & starting to produce fruit, as is my raspberry bush that has spread out quite a bit!!

I plan to plant my vegetables on Sunday! I bought entirely too many, so I'm still deciding which ones I must have!

06-02-2009, 05:17 PM
Well i enjoyed my first salad made with my wonderful muscin lettuce (mixed field greens). It was's some pics of garden. Our house is under construction, so i'm doing container gardening this year. The tomatoes have blooms and i've noted a very small cuke and squash starting. The sweater boxes were DYI to created to make a self watering containers which is working awesome since you see how happy my greens seem to be so far. I have planted some beans on the backside of the tomatoes to help place nitrogen back in the soil (w/o use of fertilizer). I also have marigolds planted alongside to help encourge good bugs that eat the bad bugs and haven't used pesiticides yet. The lettuce (sorry pic is sideway) is in various stages so i can have lettuce at differnt times.