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fat fairy
03-17-2009, 01:47 PM
Perhaps I'm blind, but I don't see a forum for this low-carb plan. I think there ought to be one, personally it's saving my life! :D

Am I in the right place?


JerseyGyrl
03-17-2009, 01:58 PM
Nope, you're not blind...there isn't a specific forum for CAD, it would fall under the catagory of "Other Reduced Carb Diets"
Sounds like its working beautifully for you! KUTGW!!:carrot:

Leenie
03-17-2009, 03:04 PM
Or you could post in the general low carb forum, I think more gets noticed there. I'm glad CAD works for you, thats great to hear :hug:

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MrsEvilGenius
03-18-2009, 01:38 PM
yay on the weight loss! you're welcomed to post here with us "others". :D

One of us! One of us!

fat fairy
03-22-2009, 09:10 PM
Wow, I'm in good company! You guys sure have made strides with your goals. :bravo:

I guess I was hoping for a thread because the food plan, like Atkins or any other diet, is so specific. I'd love to be able to share my experiences and get pointers from others who use CAD or CALP. If you are out there, helloooo... would love to talk!!!
:gossip:

pattygirl63
04-16-2009, 04:05 PM
I just started back on the old form of CAD today. It worked so beautifully for me about 6 years ago. I lost 80 lbs doing it and suddenly realized that I should be doing what works for me. I used to have all the books but only have the original and hear there is a new one for getting back on track, but I haven't seen it. I know it isn't considered low carb, but I always thought that the only meal that wasn't low carb is the 1 Reward meal each day. I would love to hear how it is working for you.

However after reading a lot of things here at this thread I am reconsidering trying Atkins again. I obviously did a lot of things wrong when I did it before and I read the book. Maybe that is why it didn't work for me. Worth giving it another shot.

DCHound
04-20-2009, 10:36 AM
My hat's off to anyone who can stick to CAD. I think it's a brilliant idea but I could never limit my carbs to just one period of the day. I think I lasted on it 3 days before total failure. I'm just too addicted to carbs. I have to totally avoid them. :)

AnnRue
05-29-2009, 07:37 AM
I am giving this a shot. So far in one week I have lost 5 lbs. I think mostly water but on non low carb plans I just wasn't losing at all, even water. I find this works best for me. I don't actually have the addict problem. I strongly prefer carbs (and usually trend that way) but can hold out on them for two meals. What really is a problem for me though is finding 3 low carb meals - (say if I was doing Atkins or South beach) with work and travel to and from work it is just extremely hard. This works well for me if I get stuck at work I can grab a sandwich at McDonalds or if my parents want to go out for lunch I can fully participate in that meal and make up for it with the other two meals.

Does anyone truly understand why this plan does not up your insulin levels? I admit I lost the book and although I have looked on line I haven't found a good explanation.

jazzmegirl
06-08-2009, 02:30 PM
Hi. I'm prediabetic, and interested in trying this plan. I'm waiting to get the book. Can anyone jut lay out the basics for me, what you eat, and how it differs from Atkins G.I. etc? How many net carbs are you supposed to have? My diabetes educator said I needed a low carb diet. I've always eaten tons of bread and cereal pasta, which, she said was part of the problem. As well as long term use of anti depressants. I've decided to start a walking program with my friend, and I all ready work out 3 times a week with a trainer, so, I was confused about why I was hanging on to 20 extra pounds. The CDE said it was insulin. Thanks.
Amie

urbanra5cal
07-03-2009, 10:47 PM
I love carbs, and I tend to eat compulsively. Reason why I am no longer overweight is I manage my carbs. If I'm fiending for something sweet I'll dump a ton of Splenda in yogurt, in my coffee, eat lots of sugar free jello, sugar free ice cream, sometimes I'll eat oat bran mixed wth wheat germ and boil that in milk, and then dump a ton of Splenda in that. I'll also eat wild rice. Drink diet soda. Beans. Nuts. Apples. Cantaloupe. The not-so-bad carbs. Milk with unsweetened cocoa & (again) tons of Splenda.

But I never ever take sugar, honey, molasses, white flour, pasta, potatoes (boy do I miss potato chips & french fries & curly fries), white rice, breakfast cereal, stuff I totally used to gorge on. Fruit juice is a no-no (though I'll drink light beer or wine once in a while). Bananas I do rarely.

This carb management works. A long time ago I did the low-fat, high carb thing when it was popular and I did lose a lot of weight, but gained it back even faster.

JerseyGyrl
07-04-2009, 08:01 AM
"Tons of Splenda":shrug::shrug::shrug:

Ruthxxx
07-04-2009, 08:09 AM
I am vewy afwaid!

shutterbug123
08-30-2009, 10:21 AM
I only have 12 lbs to lose, but my doctor told me it's very important to shed those pounds because my bad cholesterol (LDL) is up almost 50% from a year ago.

I think I've become more sensitive to carbohydrates than I used to be as I've gotten older, but I don't think I'm as carb-addicted as the core target audience of the book. So I am trying a greatly self-modified version of the Carbohydrates Addict Diet.

I do not limit my healthy fruits or "high carb" healthy vegetables. Honestly I think that's a mistake unless you have very serious issues with blood sugar. So I eat berries when I want, but consider bananas to be a carb to limit.

I do not limit healthy whole-grain carbs to once a day, but make sure not to eat them alone. I still have healthy whole-grain, low-sugar cereal for breakfast, but not every day anymore, make sure to have it with fruit and nuts when I do.

The key point I'm taking from CAD is to only eat refined carbs a maximum of once a day, and not alone without other foods. I am also experimenting and then weighing myself each morning to see what adjustments seem to be working for me and which food adjustments go too far.

In 3 weeks I've lost close to 5 lbs, which may not sound like a lot but I am thrilled, considering how much trouble I was having with other plans losing anything at all.

I also just feel better. I'm paying attention to how I feel after consuming various foods now. I love bagels, but the last time I had one for breakfast followed by snacking on bagel pieces, I found I felt lousy by the afternoon. That's what got me to go dig up my old copy of the Carbohydrate Addict's Healthy Heart diet book -- which I'd recommend more than the original, because they advise against artificial sweeteners and other chemicals like glutamates.

Another thing I'm trying to live by is: unprocessed foods whenever possible. I think Michael Pollen and his "In Defense of Food" book is on to something - if a food label contains an ingredient that your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize it as food, don't have it.

I don't think the CAD concept is for everyone, and it's not intended to be. But if you find you have trouble stopping once you start eating refined carbs, and I do, I would recommend giving this a try.

liss
09-11-2009, 04:22 PM
I've been reading up about this diet and I'm seriously considering giving it a go but I'm a little apprehensive that I'll somehow end up putting more weight on with it :halfempty

sarahte
09-12-2009, 03:30 AM
so with this diet you can have a "bad carbohydrate" once a day? like a bagel or something? or is it more like a piece of fruit?

Ruthxxx
09-12-2009, 10:02 AM
You can have a bagel once a day or other refined carbohydrate. A fruit would be a better choice but it's up to you.

Havisham
10-19-2009, 11:22 AM
Hi, there,
I'm a fan of the old CAD, and lost weight on it a few years ago. I'm now giving it another shot, as I think it's the most realistic for me.

There was a question before about how the insulin thing works, and it's basically that your brain releases insulin based on two things: what carbs you ate at your last meal, and what carbs you've eaten in your current meal. So if you ate no carbs at your last meal, then your brain releases very little insulin, which is what stores carbs as fat. Therefore, what you're currently eating is not stored as fat. When you eat your Reward Meal, your body releases based on your previous meal - no carbs, so low insulin, low storage of fat. There's also the thing about eating in one hour, which has to do with the second release of insulin, but I'm not totally clear on that. At least that's what I've taken from this diet - hope it helps!

This works for me as I have low blood sugar and if I follow a standard diet, with low fat, high fibre etc., then I need to eat all the time to avoid the low sugar. I find that CAD regulates my sugar excellently.

The second reason is the reward meal. I know the new plan emphasises having a 'balanced, healthy meal', where the old one was less concerned with what you ate, as long as you ate carbs. I lost weight and was eating, frankly, junk, in my RM. This time around I'm a little more sensible (not to mention that if I make loads of veggies, there's left overs for lunch - less the carbs). However, this works for me in that if my kids want pizza, I can do that, with no guilt. If once a week or so we have a burger, no big deal. While I know that a sensible healthy meal is best, the option to have something 'yummy and disgustingly unhealthy' is something that I need. It stops me feeling deprived and like I'm in some kind of prison, as well as making cooking for the family much easier. It also means if I want to have ice cream or chocolate, I can do that. A little freedom to be less than sensible is important to me.

Lastly, this diet suggests weighing yourself daily, at the same time etc., and then making a weekly average. You then watch the weekly average drop rather than obsess over a pound or two, here and there.

Anyone else doing this, and would like to chat, drop me a line. :)

Leenie
10-19-2009, 02:19 PM
:wave: Havisham

I am so excited to see it is working for you :bravo:

I did it years ago but did not have much success with the reward meal. I do think its an awesome plan and would like to give it another whirl one of these days.

:hug:

Havisham
10-19-2009, 03:48 PM
:wave: Havisham

I am so excited to see it is working for you :bravo:

I did it years ago but did not have much success with the reward meal. I do think its an awesome plan and would like to give it another whirl one of these days.

:hug:

Thanks, Leenie! :)
At this point it's baby steps, but I'm cautiously optimistic. I really have to thank all the folks on here for giving me the motivation to get back on this and really do something about it. I'm trying to be honest with myself and find a plan that I can live with, and I know that 'depriving' myself of everything delicious (i.e. less than healthy) just won't work for me. I'm still working on balance, but to know that if I want an ice cream or a cookie, or something, then I can, that's a big deal to me.

It's all psychological, and maybe it's cheating, but I'll go with it till it stops working!

shutterbug123
10-20-2009, 09:49 AM
...if you occasionally have a treat. The problem I as a carb addict seem to have is that once I start nibbling on sweets, I have a lot of trouble stopping. One of the most important things I've taken from this plan is to try not to have sweets alone. That makes sense if you think about the rush of glucose into your bloodstream and resulting flood of insulin, compared to if you have a small dessert after a healthy balanced meal.

I've done the "cut out every fattening food, period" thing, and it does work for awhile but it's not sustainable. Occasionally saving a piece of fabulous homemade cake someone brings into the office for after lunch is much more manageable. I can still enjoy it, but in a way that's better for my body. And then that's it for the day, which is fine since if I make sure to eat it slowly and mindfully and savor every bite, it's extremely satisfying. However, I know I can't go back to munching on candy corn or M&Ms every afternoon at work if I'm tired or stressed. And I do generally want to limit (not eliminate!) my weekly intake of refined carbs for health reasons.

I'm now down 8 of the 12 lbs I needed to lose. I'm sure that sounds like painfully slow weight loss to a lot of people, but I continue to be very happy. My weight had been creeping up for the last couple of years and I was having huge trouble trying to lose anything until I started this modified CAD plan. I still occasionally have pizza and cake and Chinese food and artisan bread, but in reasonable amounts with most of my meals healthier - but still very tasty! - options.

Havisham
10-20-2009, 10:28 AM
...if you occasionally have a treat. The problem I as a carb addict seem to have is that once I start nibbling on sweets, I have a lot of trouble stopping. One of the most important things I've taken from this plan is to try not to have sweets alone. That makes sense if you think about the rush of glucose into your bloodstream and resulting flood of insulin, compared to if you have a small dessert after a healthy balanced meal.

I've done the "cut out every fattening food, period" thing, and it does work for awhile but it's not sustainable. Occasionally saving a piece of fabulous homemade cake someone brings into the office for after lunch is much more manageable. I can still enjoy it, but in a way that's better for my body. And then that's it for the day, which is fine since if I make sure to eat it slowly and mindfully and savor every bite, it's extremely satisfying. However, I know I can't go back to munching on candy corn or M&Ms every afternoon at work if I'm tired or stressed. And I do generally want to limit (not eliminate!) my weekly intake of refined carbs for health reasons.

I'm now down 8 of the 12 lbs I needed to lose. I'm sure that sounds like painfully slow weight loss to a lot of people, but I continue to be very happy. My weight had been creeping up for the last couple of years and I was having huge trouble trying to lose anything until I started this modified CAD plan. I still occasionally have pizza and cake and Chinese food and artisan bread, but in reasonable amounts with most of my meals healthier - but still very tasty! - options.

That's exactly how I am: if I cut everything it's not going to work for me. I'm also trying to make balanced meals at night....the other night I did chicken with veggies and rice - all healthy (and gives me chicken and veggies for lunch the next day) - and then I had a small bowl of ice cream. After my hour I'm full and feel satisfied and don't feel the craving for sweet stuff. But I know if I could only eat the healthy stuff the sweet cravings would kill me.

Like you, I'm still going to have pizza and Chinese and such, in moderation, and having that option is definitely the best for me.

It's good to know I'm not the only one out there who's not perfect. :)

syster57
11-17-2009, 08:19 PM
Hiya!;) I haven't picked up the book yet, but after a lot of research, this looks like the way to go for me. The posts on here have helped as well. I'm definitely a carb addict! Ciao, divas!!:comp:

slimtobe
01-16-2011, 02:24 PM
please help

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I just recently stumbled onto the 1991 Cad book and I think I am doing something wrong since I am not losing. I scored SUPER high so I know I am a carb adict. I am eating totally low carb for lunch. The old version did not say that low fat was needed. Is it? I really hate fat free cheese. I think the problem I am having at supper is eating too much? Is there any rules in the newer addition on the reward meal. The old addition does not give any rules except 1 hour. However, I do feel I have definitely been eating past full. I love the fact that I am not at all hungry! Amazing! But I also need some results! I have ordered the new edition, but need help till it gets here.

Monkeysocks
01-30-2011, 04:41 PM
Hi, I don't know if you got your copy of the book yet, but they did refine the old reward meal to be balanced in terms of equal amounts of carbs to healthy proteins and veggies.

I followed the old book before the holidays, but got derailed. Found the Lifespan book at a garage sale and ordered a copy of the 7 day plan also to get back into it. I am currently on day five of the 7 day plan, and finding it an easy way to get back on track.

The lifespan book, (I haven't read all of it yet) does clear up a lot of things, especially that the reward meal isn't a carbfest, but the one time a day that you can include carbs. This by itself should make a huge difference in weightloss, and there is more info on nutrition etc. that I need to read.

I would love to see a regular forum of folks following this plan, I think it is a lifestyle that could actually stick for me. I only lose weight well on low carb diets, but I know I can never have a lifetime plan that says no more bread or potatoes EVER. I can deal with a small portion at one meal, but never will just send me on a carb binge after a few days.

elross
04-06-2011, 01:42 PM
Hello all! My husband just started this diet. He is only on day 4 but he is doing pretty good. I'm thinking about starting as well. I was looking for some more lunch ideas for him. He is already getting bored with salad! Thanks!

madismomma
05-14-2011, 01:01 PM
I am on day 9 of MM and I am loving it! No slip ups. I have followed it 100% and I am feeling great. No cravings after the first 3 days.

MaryOjo
05-16-2011, 06:04 AM
I started the CAD plan last year and it's been great, the only time i stopped losing weight was when i derailed. The challenge sometimes is getting a healthy meal especially when on vacation. I'm back on plan but my weight loss has really slowed down, does anybody know if there anything i need to do to get back to losing weight weekly lke i was doing before?

40mom3
03-12-2014, 01:37 PM
I can't believe I had never heard of this carbohydrate addict diet before. I read the book. And I honestly think it will change my life. Have a huge problem with carbs but can't stay on Atkins long term. Not going to happen for me. I feel too deprived. Only on Day 3. But so far, so very good. Anyone else doing this diet?

Girl4him
03-13-2014, 12:36 AM
I'm just doing low carb. No really reward days. carbs are my down fall. keeping the carbs to under 30 grams a day is my goal. It really has made a difference since I'm diabetic. Keeps my blood sugar count low, and having lost 55 pounds has really helped. The first few days of doing low carb were the most difficult for me as I started off doing no carbs for 4 days, only proteins. This plan works for me. some day I hope to be able to add a few more carbs into diet but not until I real my goal.

classykaren
07-17-2014, 04:21 PM
I am on this plan too. Love it. I think it's like comparing the old Atkins with the new the old works better.