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migotokokoro
03-10-2009, 03:27 PM
Can a vitamin d deficiency cause weight gain? Or make it harder to lose weight? I just found out I had a count of 18 and for a normal person it's 30+. I tried looking it up, but it doesn't say anything except that vitamin d helps your body absorb calcium and that all unprocessed calcium is stored in fat cells... I'm just a little confused.


ronni62
03-10-2009, 03:35 PM
I haven't seen anything about vitamin D and weight related issues, but I do know that when we cut down on what we eat, it's easy to cut too much D out of our diet. My D levels are lower than yours right now, because I'm lactose-intolerant and never get enough dairy. My docs are worried as I also have MS and there may be some correlation between MS symptoms and D deficiency, so I really need to find a supplement I can swallow soon.

Of course, your doc should have info on how much D to take, but make sure you also take calcium and magnesium with it, as the 3 all work together to aid absorption of the nutrients. Also, try to get out in the sun for about 15 minutes a day without any sunscreen on. Sunscreen keeps our bodies from absorbing enough sunlight to manufacture our own vitamin D.

Best wishes!:)

migotokokoro
03-10-2009, 03:50 PM
It's hard to get sun here... It's always raining... I live in Washington... :(


Ruthxxx
03-10-2009, 04:02 PM
Then take a supplement. Those of us in the northern hemisphere don't get enough D, even if outdoors in winter. I take 1000 IU daily. Any vitamin or mineral deficiency can affect weightloss.

wendyland
03-10-2009, 04:46 PM
I haven't heard much in terms of weight issues and vitamin D deficiency. But, they are finding out more and more about vit D all the time. It has a big role in our immune system, too. I take a supplement of D-3.

If you have health insurance, your doctor could write a perscription for a light box. It may not pay for all of it, but some at least. You sit by the light box daily for exposure.

trekkiegirl
03-10-2009, 05:59 PM
My doctor just prescribed Vitamin D for me...Calcitriol at .25 mcg/day...which isn't that like 10 iu? I'm not sure why I'm paying $31 out of pocket (it's like $50 in total) for that small a dosage for 30 days for 6 months.

It's kind of ironic that the things they tell you to do to increase your Vitamin D (get sun without sunscreen, drink fortified milk, eat egg yolks) are things they tell you not to do for different reasons! :dizzy:

Coincidentally, I just got a free sample of a Vitamin D liquid with an online order I placed, so I'm trying that, too. This one says having 2 teaspoons is 1000 iu.

The doctor also mentioned that a lot of people have the deficiency, herself included. She said even buff, muscular guys who are all tanned may have it. She said if I had come in a year ago, she wouldn't even have checked for it, the checking for it being so new.

prinny
03-10-2009, 06:26 PM
I am allergic to the sun, but I do get a lot of dairy so I seem to be covered. I am probably deficient though. Supplements help and I have been told by Doctors I have to take one because of my sun intolerance.

kaplods
03-10-2009, 07:36 PM
I've read that vitamin D deficiency may play a role in insulin resistance (which can contribute to weight gain).

A little over a year ago, I had a vitamin D deficiency, and I've been taking supplements every since (I also invested in full-spectrum light bulbs, which from what I read, may or may not help). I don't know if the vitamin D helped me lose weight, but it may have (I've lost most of my weight in the last year, but it wasn't effort-free, so I don't know how much of a role the D could have played).

I am very interested in the vitamin D research though, because it's thought to play a role in immune function, and autoimmune disease, and fibromyalgia. I have autoimmune disease, was very prone to skin and respiratory infections (bacterial and viral) and have fibromyalgia.

I've also cut back on high carb and grain foods, because of their possible link to autoimmune disease (the research is interesting, and while not conclusive I think there was enough in the research to make me think a diet experiment was worth attempting).

I suspect there is something to both, because my immune/autoimmune and pain/fatigue issues have gotten a lot better since taking the vitamin D, and then when I cut out grains and cut back on carbs, the autoimmune disease appears to be in remission (from the lab results). Then around Christmas, I went off my diet and had a reoccurance of the (autoimmune) skin issues.

We also switched to full spectrum bulbs in my reading lamp, and that seems to help too.

kodama
03-18-2009, 09:51 PM
Like you my vitamin D was very low. The nurse said that most people are low, which makes me wonder why they don't test more often and have people take supplements. I have a history of foot fractures and my orthopedist had me checked. The two I had before did not. He said you cannot heal bones without it and wrote a prescription of 50,000 iu which I took once a week for three or four months. Now I take a calcium/Vit D supplement each day. I noticed right away that my bruises healed much faster. I also live in the Pacific Northwest and stay out of the sun because it aggravates my autoimmune disease.

QuilterInVA
03-19-2009, 11:45 AM
My level was 14 - normal is 33-100. I'm now on 50,000 IU once a week for 6 months. I do get in at least 3 dairy servings a day but I don't get out in the sun much because I am very fair and burn very easily. I haven't had any problems with weight from the Vitamin D shortage.

yoyoma
03-19-2009, 11:53 AM
I live in the Northeastrn US and I started taking a vit D supplement within the past year when I found out that it is basically necessary in order to get the new recommended amount for folks living here.

I am wondering that there might be a weight connection -- there was all that hoopla a while back about how eating dairy products increased weight loss. Calcium supplements alone weren't as effective. Maybe the missing ingrdient was vit D?

I can't say that I notice any difference, but maybe I didn't have a real deficiency before (I have always incorporated healthy servings of dairy).

Lizabeth2
03-20-2009, 07:40 AM
I hope no one minds if I jump right in here. I was taking the 1000 units of "d3' but it didn't get my levels up high enough so now I am on 50,000 units once a week for a month. I try to get in my calcium every day (pill form) but mostly forget and can't take until 4 hours after thyroid meds. Also have fibro and arthritis and it is hard to exercise with this. Water exercises are best. I don't think it has affected weight loss because I lost 7 lbs on WW and gained it back in short time. Info says that it is good for many illness and is a good preventive for a lot of diseases.

migotokokoro
03-22-2009, 02:59 PM
I have a question about fibromyalgia. I'm being tested for a lot of things. My knees have been hurting me, and sometimes other places like my elbows and back. Not the type of pain that's is an oww when you walk on it, but it's a dull pain that is more like an ache. Like a migraine, but in my knees. I have skin rashes too. The doctors have given me creams, I've tryed a lot of lotions, and the dry patches wont go away. They itch and then hurt when i itch, and they flake no matter what i put on them. Sometimes I feel like I have no energy at all, but I'll make myself get up because I hate laying in bed all day. I've been checked for arthritis, diabetes, and was checked for arthritis a second time. My mom got a postcard in the mail, and it showed the fibromyalgia symptoms. They seem similar to what I'm feeling.

pickdaisies
03-29-2009, 10:24 PM
Research has shown that Vitamin D defiency and weight gain are indeed related. A lot of people who have insulin resistance are also vitamin d deficient. There is an excellent article on pubmed discussing the role of vitamin d and beta cell dysfunction. It is really important that people who have insulin resistance, supplement with vitamins and minerals. Ironically, they tend to deplete them more readily than others. People with insulin resistance may also have problems with magnesium. This seems to be however a much bigger problem with people who are already diabetic. I am insulin resistant, and I have a hard time maintaining appropriate vitamin d levels. My physician assures me as insulin resistance abates, vitamin d homeostasis will return to normal. Hope this helps.

pickdaisies
03-29-2009, 10:36 PM
I forgot to mention that I am taking Vitamin D in large doses prescribed by my physician. This is so that my body has adequate stores to help with beta cell function and other physiological processes in the body. This is required for now until my body is better able to manage glucose. Naturally, once this occurs vitamin d homeostasis will return and large doses won't be necessary. If you have IR, you have to understand that you can never eat like a "normal" person. You will have to follow an insulin control diet so that you can appear to be like a normal person. Managing stress will be important, too. I have noticed that inadequate sleep will elevate my insulin levels. I have been managing the disorder now for ten years. Yeah!!! This is a chronic condition and you will have bad days and sometimes the IR will make you feel like you are going insane!!!!!

jusmine
04-05-2009, 02:54 AM
Can a vitamin d deficiency cause weight gain? Or make it harder to lose weight? I just found out I had a count of 18 and for a normal person it's 30+. I tried looking it up, but it doesn't say anything except that vitamin d helps your body absorb calcium and that all unprocessed calcium is stored in fat cells... I'm just a little confused.


Hi migotokokoro,

"Although vitamin D is now frequently measured in older adults, due to a higher level of awareness in this population, it is rarely measured in young people - especially healthy adolescents,":)

starfishkitty
04-20-2009, 11:16 AM
I actually just got diagnosed with very low Vitamin D and the doc put me on 50,000 IU twice a week for the next 3 months. I took the first one on Thursday... and already I'm feeling much better!!! A lot of my problems don't seem as bad (the body aches, etc). Even my period came exactly when it was supposed to do.... something it hasn't done on its own in years! :eek: Let's see if it impacts my weight loss in any way...

starfishkitty
04-20-2009, 11:19 AM
Also..... does anyone know what is a good recommended dose for Vitamin D supplements once I'm off my hardcore med? I've been looking around a lot online... and darned if it doesn't seem that there's 20 million different opinions on how much someone with Vitamin D problems should take to keep it up....

migotokokoro
04-25-2009, 10:32 PM
Well, last Thursday I was finally diagnosed... The vitamin D doses is at an end, and the pain is increasing rapidly. I was told by my doctor that I have Fibromyalgia. He's crossed off all other possibilities and it's finally come down to this. My dermatologist told me the next day that I have eczema, which isn't all around bad. It could be worse, and at least it can be kept under control. I have a gynecologist appt. in a month and it is possible that I have endometriosis... My mom told me she had a mild case of it around my age, but without being examined I'm not sure if it's the fibromyalgia or if it really is a case of endometriosis. All I know is that my periods have gotten severely worse since I started and have escalated to immense pain. I think I've found the reason I gained such a large amount of weight in such a short amount of time over the summer. Hopefully It'll come off as easy as it came on when they start me on medication and it doesn't do what a lot of people have problems with when they start medication. I don't think I could handle another 30+ lbs... :(

Windchime
04-25-2009, 10:53 PM
i'm really interested in this thread because my doctor asked me at my appointment last week if I was getting enough vitamin D. I have no clue whether or not I am. I had a bunch of lab work done and got the results in the mail today; my doc jotted on the paper "We are still awaiting the vitamin D result." So apparently she feels it's really important, too!

I also live in Washington, but I live on the sunny side of the state. It's not nearly as cloudy/rainy over here this time of year as it is on the west side of the state, but it's been a long, dark winter so I definitely could be low. It'll be interesting to find out!

migotokokoro
04-25-2009, 10:59 PM
Yea, doctors are really looking for that now. Apparently most Americans are low of vitamin D. It causes a LOT of problems... :(

kodama
04-26-2009, 03:17 AM
I think it is how far north that matters because in the winter the sun doesn't have enough strength to reach Washington. Not the rain.

DianaG
04-30-2009, 08:18 PM
Hi. I am interested in if you find out anything. I was tested 3 months ago and found to be deficient in vitamin D. My level was 14. I just had blood drawn yesterday for my diabetes appointment next week and will find out then if my daily over the counter suppliments helped. I did recently lose 35lbs, but I gained 10 back. It did not seem to hurt my losing once I was calorie counting and exercising.

I live in Florida and am out in the sun a lot, so I was surprised it was low. However, I never leave the house without at least an spf 15 on my face. The doctor told me go out without sunscreen for about 15 minutes each morning before the sun is too bad.

I wonder if it had to do with some of my diet changes. I stopped eating eggs and switched to egg beaters. My triglycerides went from 109 to 49 though, so I am not switching back to eggs. I do eat yogurt and milk, so I get dairy every day.

The doctor did say recent studies show Vitamin D being important in keeping healthy and could help prevent cancer, but the studies are still being done on that connection.

Windchime
04-30-2009, 09:25 PM
Well, my doctor called me today and said that my vitamin D levels are VERY low and that I'm to start taking 1,000 iu per day immediately, and to keep it up for 3 months and then she'll test me again. I did a little research, and the body aches and pains, foggy-headedness AND weight gain can all be linked to vitamin D. So I have my supplements and will start taking it tonight with my supper. I'll be interested to see if it makes a difference in how I feel.

migotokokoro
04-30-2009, 10:37 PM
That vitamin D was an issue for me, but I'm done with my treatment and the pains have only gotten worse... There aren't any other alternatives... besides the fact I MIGHT be able to lose weight better.

Windchime
04-30-2009, 10:53 PM
That vitamin D was an issue for me, but I'm done with my treatment and the pains have only gotten worse... There aren't any other alternatives... besides the fact I MIGHT be able to lose weight better.

I'm sorry that you're not feeling better. Hopefully they'll be able to figure out a solution. That sounds like a drag! Hang in there.

migotokokoro
04-30-2009, 11:07 PM
I'm sorry that you're not feeling better. Hopefully they'll be able to figure out a solution. That sounds like a drag! Hang in there.

Well I posted earlier in the forum that I'd finally been diagnosed, and they told me I have fibromyalgia... They still can't really do anything for me anyways...

walking2lose
04-30-2009, 11:19 PM
I just got my levels tested yesterday.

starfishkitty
05-12-2009, 11:21 AM
I read that living in North America for nearly half the year there's really no possible way to get as much Vitamin D as we technically need to feel healthy, happy, and fit as we should. And even when there is enough available (late spring, summer, early fall), we have to be outside, arms and face bare, for at least 20 minutes a day WITHOUT sunscreen.

So far I've been taking my doctor prescribed supplements for the past month and I've got say I feel more than fabulous compared to what I used to. I feel like I've literally become about 4 years younger. My bones have stopped hurting, even my spine problems don't seem as bad (scoliosis), my nails have become hard again, and my skin problems seem to be going away. I don't think that it's a be all end all for my medical problems, but I think it definitely was a place to start to make me feel better!!

I'm just concerned with exactly how much I should take AFTER I finish my prescribed doses... I'll be darned if I have to go back and pay $60 again for another doc visit PLUS the $300 for the blood tests!! Anyone have any ideas on how much we should take a day??

Thighs Be Gone
05-12-2009, 11:29 AM
I live in a sunny area (well, mostly) and I get out in the sun everyday. This is one reason I exercise out doors. I have two sisters with MS and supposedly lower Vit D levels increase your chances of being diagnosed.

Thighs Be Gone
05-12-2009, 11:30 AM
Hey, wanted to mention that lower Vitamin D levels also have been linked to depression. I think most of us will agree depression can definitely lead to weight gain--it did for me anyway.

starfishkitty
05-12-2009, 11:49 AM
Ugh, not cool. Seriously.... I feel like I'm becoming this paranoid health nut trying to figure out what's wrong with me, what I need to do, what I'm lacking, etc etc.

Can't they come up with a magical test that just tells you what the HECK is wrong with you?! Yeesh. :tantrum:

And yeah... I'd love to exercise outside.... BUUUT.... in Chicago... that's TOTALLY not available for at least half the year. :shrug:

starfishkitty
05-12-2009, 11:52 AM
Thighs be Gone....

I've struggled with mean depression since I was in my teens... even for a while being on a couple of meds for it (but took myself off, hated feeling like a zombie). I've noticed that since I've started the Vit D supplements... my depression is WAAAAAAAAAY easier to handle.

I cannot honestly believe how different I'm feeling in so many ways because of it.... I mean, who knew? It's not a cure, I'm not perfect... and I haven't seen any weight loss (well, I lost 2lbs, but that's because I started Nutrisystem) because of it... but like you said, depression and weight gain are quite often linked. Can't hurt, right?

walking2lose
05-18-2009, 06:33 PM
Like many of you here, my results came back showing that I'm deficient. I tested 17, and my doctor said she wanted me in the 50s, at least 54. So, I too am now on once a week 50,000 units prescription. Tomorrow will be my third dose.

I have had muscle and joint aches (severe) for years and also severe tingling in my feet and hands. About 7 years ago, I went through a very bad period of health - I was tested for Lupus, arthritis, MS, Lyme disease and several other things that I can't even remember. While I did have a borderline positive test for lupus (and my sister has it), a rheumatologist ruled it out. I never got any diagnosis and always felt a little crazy (or at least like other people thought I was a hyperchondriac).

My doctor said that every single one of my symptoms could be the result of the vit D deficiency. Wow!

How interesting and good to know. I am very much looking forward to feeling better!!

starfishkitty
05-21-2009, 12:16 PM
I know exactly how you feel Walking!! I went through the same type of stuff... and for some reason I could never figure out why I was always prone to weird infections (and nearly died from 3 random ones between the ages of 17 and 25)... and I'm starting to think that it might have had something to do with my Vit D deficiency! I seriously feel amazing... years younger... now that I'm on it. I can handle everything so much better... physically and mentally.

They really REALLY need to get crackin on more testing on this.... I honestly can't believe that they haven't!!

AnnRue
07-26-2009, 07:05 PM
Hi
I just saw this thread -- I would highly recommend everyone read "the vitamin D cure" also recently a study did come out that showed that Vitamin D does indeed make an major impact on dieting. It was a small Study and I feel like maybe it won't be as good as promised when fully fleshed out, but, at the moment, it says... if I am reading it correctly for each one level increase in vitamin D level, say from 30 to 40, you will burn 1/4th more a lb.

Think about that. You get your level up from 20 to 60. You should potentially burn one more lb a week.

I hope that is true. Here is the link. http://www.thatsfit.com/2009/07/20/vitamin-d-helps-with-weight-loss/

MissGiggles
08-01-2009, 11:33 AM
My levels were 14 or 17 a year or two ago. I am lactose intolerant and insulin resistant

My doctors did not put me on the mega doses, they just said to supplement and it will eventually come back up.

It is 28 now but I will go back during the winter to get it retested just to make sure.

Duchesssammi
08-03-2009, 04:21 AM
I also take high doses of Vitamin D, I have no idea if it helps with weight loss I guess we could google it and research it.

AnnRue
08-03-2009, 07:43 AM
I also take high doses of Vitamin D, I have no idea if it helps with weight loss I guess we could google it and research it.

I have done some research. So far it seems there is no definitive study (other than the June one). However, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence on the net. People reporting that they lost weight (not regarding diet) and people reporting their sugar level dropped.

I found a blog about diabetes and this woman reported that right after taking vitamin D she started to have trouble in the afternoon with too low a sugar level... that it seemed to make the insulin that she took like 10 times more powerful.

There is also tons of stuff on insulin sensitivity and how curing that can really increase weight loss if cured. Insulin keeps sugar in your blood and if you have high sugar your cells can't burn your fat.

So I think there is a lot of circumstantial evidence.