Weight Loss Support - Does the word Morbidly Obese flip you out?




annie s
02-09-2009, 04:07 PM
Ok. I have been really good watching what I eat. I was just starting to come out of my winter funk when I got a copy of an insurance paper that my doctor sent to my orthopedic doctor and one of the diagnosis on the papers just jumped out at me... MORBIDLY OBESE it said which totally freaked me out then made me depressed. I was just starting to pull myself out of that hole you get into being cooped up and this made me want to just slither back down into it. I am suppose to be going to physical therapy 3 times a week and I work out there in their gym which I also have access too and have been doing good on the machines and the treadmill but lately I have just wanted to stop . This coming week is my last week of physical therapy but the hospital where I go to for it invites their patients to continue with exercize after rehab is finished for 20 dollars a month ( no problem) for as many times a month as you can get there.
Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.


mandalinn82
02-09-2009, 04:16 PM
I DID freak me out...in faact, that was one of my motivators for losing weight. I had to go to a specialist for PCOS issues, and had to take my chart from my gyn to that doctor. It said "abdominal exam normal, but difficult to palpate secondary to morbid obesity" Or, in plain English, "We can't tell if her abdomen is normal because all we feel is fat". That meant that the FAT was getting in the way of my getting a proper diagnosis. It was one of several very big pushes toward my new way of life.

You know what, though? Just because I -was- morbidly obese doesn't mean I was destined to be that way forever. As you said yourself, you are already ON YOUR WAY to not being that scary thing anymore. So you can either take that scared feeling and use it as an excuse to stop, or you can look at it, think to yourself "Feeling scared of my morbid obesity is EXACTLY why it is worth the work to lose weight", and use it to push yourself forward.

WarMaiden
02-09-2009, 04:27 PM
I'm really, really looking to being simply "obese" rather than "morbidly obese" in just 1.5 more pounds! :) The word itself doesn't really flip me out, though, except for the fact that the "morbid" part is related to "morbidity" which of course means...death :(


sws19
02-09-2009, 04:45 PM
I'm really, really looking to being simply "obese" rather than "morbidly obese" in just 1.5 more pounds! :) The word itself doesn't really flip me out, though, except for the fact that the "morbid" part is related to "morbidity" which of course means...death :(

that's actually a bit of a colloquial misnomer. in the medical field, "morbidity" refers to the state of having a disease or illness. so morbid obesity would be obesity as a disease in and of itself. "mortality" is the death one. i'm not sure why the lay meaning of morbid has come to be so associated with death because that's not actually what it really means.

JayEll
02-09-2009, 05:03 PM
Hey! Another word geek! :D :wave:

I think it's easy to confuse "morbid" with "moribund" because they're so similar. Moribund means near death.

The prefix "mor-" is probably the same root in all those words--and some others, like morgue.

Jay

JulieJ08
02-09-2009, 05:15 PM
Yep, that's why they will speak of morbidity and mortality (aka M & M), because they're not the same thing. But obviously, morbidity isn't good either.

For example, the CDC publishes the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/

bunny43
02-09-2009, 05:19 PM
What exactly is the sequencing in weights?

First you're chubby? then chunky? then fluffy? next comes fat? then overweight? then hefty? followed by obese?

what comes after morbidly obese?

I am 147 and I am still considered overweight according to many BMI calculators. Grrr....

mygritsconfessions
02-09-2009, 05:20 PM
It did shock me when I learned I was in that catagory - I remember thinking "holy crap!"

I don't like labeling anyway, so I simply don't like the word.

Sandy

blog - www.mygritsconfessions.com

Justwant2Bhealthy
02-09-2009, 05:31 PM
I agree that many people get the meaning of these labels mixed up; and I don't like it that we have all these labels: one is enuff really. I'm very, very overweight and I know it, thanks! ;)

I always thought people were saying that as an insult: as in "grossly" obese because I had never heard that term until I came here; but lately I'm hearing people call themselves and others this all the time. Maybe this is a new fad or something. :dunno:

MANDALINN ~ I agree with what you said; let's use this in a positive way to work towards getting healthier ...

Anyways, thanks for clearing this up for me; now, I'm more informed!

Slashnl
02-09-2009, 05:37 PM
that's actually a bit of a colloquial misnomer. in the medical field, "morbidity" refers to the state of having a disease or illness. so morbid obesity would be obesity as a disease in and of itself. "mortality" is the death one. i'm not sure why the lay meaning of morbid has come to be so associated with death because that's not actually what it really means.

I'm so glad you posted this! I had no idea about that and I, too, was really hung up on the word. It doesn't change what I need to do, but it makes me not so freaked out.

corazonas
02-09-2009, 05:40 PM
What exactly is the sequencing in weights?

First you're chubby? then chunky? then fluffy? next comes fat? then overweight? then hefty? followed by obese?

what comes after morbidly obese?

I am 147 and I am still considered overweight according to many BMI calculators. Grrr....

um, i think gabriel iglesias set the ruler as

the 5 levels of fat:

big

healthy

husky

fluffy

and

DAMN!!

:rofl:

corazonas
02-09-2009, 05:42 PM
ok ok, i realize this is a weight loss forum... and if anybody took offense to that 1. gabriel is one of my favorite stand up comedians and that was a funny and 2. um... chill? haha

kaplods
02-09-2009, 06:08 PM
At least I'm no longer super obese (once or sometimes called malignant obesity), the medical term for having a BMI of 60 or above. At least super obese sounds sort of cool like I should get a cape and shiny leotard, maybe a secret identity or a theme song. My husband does sometimes sing the batman theme song from the old 70's show and pretend to be "fatman" you know, nuh nuh, nuh nuh, nuh nuh nuh fatman!


As for fluffy, if anyone calls me fluffy, I will smack them! I prefer even the DAMN moniker to fluffy (it makes me feel like a big cartoon sheep). I'm not cuddly either. When my youngest sister was little, she called me squishy and it was said with such love, I couldn't feel bad about it - but no I don't wan't my husband calling me that (his favorite is "sexy hottie wife," which at my size has to disturb many of our friends, along with mine for him "lustmuffin").

I remember a sampler hanging in someone's kitchen when I was a little girl that had a picture of a very round sheep and it said "Ewe's not fat, ewe's fluffy." Blegh, sappy.

My father had many silly nicknames for me, from when I was little (he still uses them today) often included fat, almost like a prefix. Kaplods and Jammers were the two he used the most (thus my user name), and more often than not it was "Fatkaplods," and "Fatjammers," and I learned that fat wasn't always a "bad word," that it was just a description, and could be used lovingly as well as hatefully (though in middle school and high school, I was always terrified that he would slip and use the private nickname in front of my friends).

I am fat, actually very, very fat and I prefer the word fat to most terms including obese. Morbidly obese, not my favorite word, but I've been dealing with that terminology since I was 12, so the word has lost most of its power over me (for good or bad).

annie s
02-09-2009, 06:36 PM
WOW! Thanks for the posts and information in them. You all are making me feel right at home . I appreciate the time you took to answer my question and read my ost.

nelie
02-09-2009, 07:07 PM
I can't remember when I switched over to obese because well I'm no longer morbidly obese. I have to say that since I was morbidly obese from such a young age (8 or so), that I just had learned to accept it. Now if only I could get down to the overweight category, that'd be something.

thinpossible
02-09-2009, 07:36 PM
At least I'm no longer super obese (once or sometimes called malignant obesity), the medical term for having a BMI of 60 or above. At least super obese sounds sort of cool like I should get a cape and shiny leotard, maybe a secret identity or a theme song. My husband does sometimes sing the batman theme song from the old 70's show and pretend to be "fatman" you know, nuh nuh, nuh nuh, nuh nuh nuh fatman! :lol::lol::lol: That is too funny.

I think you're no longer classified as morbidly obese when you're less than 100 pounds overweight. Which means 11 pounds to go, and I'll just be obese

WarMaiden
02-09-2009, 07:59 PM
No, it's a BMI thing. If your BMI is 35-39.9, you are "morbidly obese." At 34.9 you're down into just "obese." At 29.9, just "overweight."

Lori Bell
02-09-2009, 08:05 PM
At least I'm no longer super obese (once or sometimes called malignant obesity), the medical term for having a BMI of 60 or above. At least super obese sounds sort of cool like I should get a cape and shiny leotard, maybe a secret identity or a theme song. My husband does sometimes sing the batman theme song from the old 70's show and pretend to be "fatman" you know, nuh nuh, nuh nuh, nuh nuh nuh fatman!...


Actually, my doctor told me that a BMI above 50 was super morbidly obese. 60 and above he said was Super-Super morbidly obese. My medical chart had 52 BMI and Super morbidly obese as a secondary diagnosis when I went to the ER for an anxiety attack at the beginning of my healthy diet. :(

The good news is now I'm only "overweight" Yipee...;)

sws19
02-09-2009, 08:45 PM
Hey! Another word geek! :D :wave:

I think it's easy to confuse "morbid" with "moribund" because they're so similar. Moribund means near death.

The prefix "mor-" is probably the same root in all those words--and some others, like morgue.

Jay

i am, in fact, a total word geek. however, the reason that i know the morbidity/mortality difference is because i actually work in the health field. i made it all the way to grad school before i finally figured out that i'd been using morbid/morbidity incorrectly my entire life. morbidity and mortality are some of the most frequently used measures in my field, so now i'll never be confused again. :dizzy:

as for the etymology bit, morbid comes from the latin morbus (disease) whereas the "mor-" prefix comes from the latin mori/morior (death/dying), which you are totally right in that it gives us morgue, mortal, moribund, murder, in english and words like morir/muerto in spanish and mourir/morte in french.
so, um, i'm sure that's waaaaaay more than anybody ever wanted to know, so i'll shut up now.

i have NEVER heard the fluffy term applied to a person. it reminds me of bunnies or something.

kaplods
02-09-2009, 09:07 PM
Actually, my doctor told me that a BMI above 50 was super morbidly obese. 60 and above he said was Super-Super morbidly obese.


Well, I guess that means I get to keep my cape for another 15 lbs or so. I did find the following chart below on a bariatric website (I was super super, who knew?)

Hmm, a bit more depressing than I would have expected (guess I'm not as bullet-proof as I thought).


• BMI 20-25 - ideal
• 25-30 - overweight
• 30-35 - obese
• 35-40 - morbid obesity
• 40-50 - severe obesity
• 50-60 - super-obesity
• >60 - super-super obesity


Colleen

rockinrobin
02-09-2009, 09:29 PM
Yes. I was freaked out by being morbidly obese. MORBIDLY obese. It's scary. And I was that way for a lot of years. And the fact that I was putting myself at added risk for many deadly diseases is what finally spurred me on to lose the weight. There are no guarantees in this life, at any weight. But I am confident that I am doing all that I can on my part to stave off many debilitating and deadly diseases. It is a HUGE weight off of my shoulders. I worry a LOT less now. And enjoy my life MUCH more now. I laugh a lot more too. I am thrilled to go through my life without the added worries that being overweight/obese/morbidly obese brings about.

You are taking matters into your own hands and taking control of the situation. You are well on your way to getting rid of that "title". The human body is amazing and so forgiving. You CAN change this. Heck you already ARE changing this. :hug:

Faith92208
02-09-2009, 11:13 PM
When I went to the doctor and got a print out summarizing my visit, it stung to read that I am currently "obese". The truth hurts lol. Don't let labels get you down though. As long as we are trying our best to eat right and exercise, we will become healthier as a result. I'm hoping eventually to be able to label myself as "healthy" in every sense of the word. :hug:

Kaethus
02-09-2009, 11:17 PM
At least super obese sounds sort of cool like I should get a cape and shiny leotard, maybe a secret identity or a theme song.

LMAO, I want a cape too. But one that goes down to my ankles, not the silly ones that only go down to the back of your knees...



BMI 20-25 - ideal
25-30 - overweight
30-35 - obese
35-40 - morbid obesity
40-50 - severe obesity
50-60 - super-obesity
>60 - super-super obesity


Colleen

And yes, I am currently flipping out. Because according to this BMI scale, I am in the morbidly obese category. It's funny but I don't really feel morbidly obese....

Nori71
02-09-2009, 11:29 PM
No, it's a BMI thing. If your BMI is 35-39.9, you are "morbidly obese." At 34.9 you're down into just "obese." At 29.9, just "overweight."I don't feel like having an "I'm Obese Now" party or anything, but I did have my body fat/BMI checked today and it came in at 34%. Down from 37% a couple months ago. I guess that's the main thing...that's it's moving down.

I've heard "fluffy" many times...usually gals using it to describe themselves though.

hpnodat
02-09-2009, 11:45 PM
I just realized that I would have to get down to 122 lbs in order to be in the Ideal range. Not sure how I feel about that right now. I'm thinking about it.

flatiron
02-10-2009, 12:31 AM
I DID freak me out...in faact, that was one of my motivators for losing weight.

I flipped out too the first time I saw "morbid obesity" on a medical paper from my doctor when I was at the VA Hospital.

It was like a SLAP in the face of reality when I saw that slip of paper I was supposed to bring to another doctor at the VA!

I remember thinking ME MORBIDLY OBESE??? That can't be! I mean I know I am a little fat BUT the morbidly obese are the poor souls that are SO fat they cannot get out of bed! Or wear a sheet because they cannot fit in clothes! The morbidly obese are in the Guinesses Book of Records! They weight 800lbs!

Like Amanda it was one of my motivators to say to myself "ENOUGH is enough! I AM going to do something about it!"

And I am....

flatiron
02-10-2009, 12:49 AM
you know its kinda funny... I TOO am one of those who will be happy when I am just considered obese or overweight! LOL!

rockinrobin
02-10-2009, 06:29 AM
I just realized that I would have to get down to 122 lbs in order to be in the Ideal range. Not sure how I feel about that right now. I'm thinking about it.


I'm the same height as you. Only I weighed even more then you. I was one of the SUPER morbidly obese. Lucky me ;). All right, LUCK, had nothing to do with it. It was MY doing. But since it was *my* doing, it was also then totally and completely up to me to undo it. And it CAN be undone. Let this spur you on. Get excited about the changes you can make to change your life. Break it down into increments. Perhaps 10 lbs at a time.

Despite what those BMI charts tell you, you will be feeling fabulous and fit and quite "ideal" waaay before you hit those 120's. :hug:

flatiron
02-10-2009, 07:57 AM
My father had many silly nicknames for me, from when I was little

wow you just made me remember that my Dad had a nickname for me when I was little he called me "Fats" like as in Minnesota Fats or Fats Domino.

I had forgotten all about that! LOL! Weird thing was that I was in no way, shape or form of FAT when I was a kid! I see pictures of me way back then and I sure didn't look fat at all.

But I guess I must have looked a little plump to my Dad for him to (affectionately because he never said it in a mean way) call me that.

I don't remember it ever bothering me when I was a kid.

sidhe
02-10-2009, 09:08 AM
Dude! I'm obese! :lol: :carrot: :lol: I don't watch BMI because it's stupid, but hey, I dropped into the next category...no more Morbidity for me! :lol:

nelie
02-10-2009, 09:58 AM
My highest BMI appears to have been 58.9 so I was almost at the point of super--super-obesity. As of today, my BMI is 33.7

healthytoad
02-10-2009, 10:09 AM
you have to get all the way to 29 to be over weight...they need more catagories so you can feel like you are making progress faster :P

Thighs Be Gone
02-10-2009, 10:12 AM
OMG--great post. I hadn't cross into "morbidly" yet but was classified as obese. My first wake up was getting on a WII fit for the first time at someone's home. I had no idea I was being weighed and all that stuff. Then it showed me the line and said OBESE. I was mortified--not to mention there were other people there. A few days later I attended a birthday party and got the pics in my email that afternoon. I actually thought I looked good that day--paying special attention to my hair and makeup and buying a new blouse. I looked like a big, pasty whale that was aging. I didn't even know who I was anymore.

So, that's when I started working.

I also had a fella tell me last year that I was a BBW--like it was a compliment or something. I could have slugged him but he is a guy that is like a brother to me and super close friend to the family. He didn't think he was saying anything out of line.

Thighs Be Gone
02-10-2009, 10:13 AM
nelie, excellent progress! that is incredible.

RN BSN 2009
02-10-2009, 10:27 AM
it's just a term. dont let it stop you from reaching towards your goals.

sacha
02-10-2009, 10:30 AM
When I hit "obese", it was the smack and wake-up call that I needed to make a lifestyle change. It certainly hurt but the thought of my health being endangered really shook me. That was four years ago and I don't ever want to go there again!

fatmad
02-10-2009, 11:01 AM
I had a lot of trouble accepting BMI as anything relevant.
I take care of many large women as a midwife, and I am a little blind to weight. I like them as people first, and weight and BMI are just numbers, and people are never just numbers to me as a care provider.

I also resented the BMI because I was classed as obese, and I didn't think I was obese. BUT, a big part of my weight loss journey was accepting that I was obese, I am fat. (hence the name fatmad) Once I accepted that I was fat, I could start thinking about losing weight.

I am now classed as overweight :D so I am please about that. I plan to get under that at least. Ironically, I was underweight for many years. I was quite skinny when younger, and didn't learn to eat properly as a result. As a care provider, I knew what to do right, but didn't, since I was in denial.

Now I am eating better, and I hope getting fitter, (still find exercise a challenge, I do NOT like it or enjoy it much at all).

I think you can use this label, and accept it, as part of working toward your better health. Good luck!

thinpossible
02-10-2009, 11:32 AM
I'm the same height as you. Only I weighed even more then you. I was one of the SUPER morbidly obese. Lucky me ;). All right, LUCK, had nothing to do with it. It was MY doing. But since it was *my* doing, it was also then totally and completely up to me to undo it. And it CAN be undone. Let this spur you on. Get excited about the changes you can make to change your life. Break it down into increments. Perhaps 10 lbs at a time.

Despite what those BMI charts tell you, you will be feeling fabulous and fit and quite "ideal" waaay before you hit those 120's. :hug: I hope you never leave 3FC. I always get so much out of your posts.

redreine
02-10-2009, 12:22 PM
I like to say it in a funny voice. I am MOOOOOOOOOORBIDLY OBEEEEEESE. lol

If only you all could here me saying it. I've been obese almost my entire life, so I really don't know much else. I'm bored with being obese. I think I'll find out what ideal feels like. Maybe I'll dig it. ;)

time2lose
02-10-2009, 01:58 PM
I too hate "morbidly obese". I will do a happy dance the day I am just "obese"!

rockinrobin
02-10-2009, 03:30 PM
I hope you never leave 3FC. I always get so much out of your posts.

Thank you. That's very kind of you to say. I appreciate it.

Rest assured. I'm not going anywhere. This place has been a vital piece to my success. It keeps me aware and intune to my weight, my health. I will never ever again leave it on the back burner. And 3FC helps me to keep it front and center. Very important. Mucho. Mucho. Mucho.