100 lb. Club - Am I eating too much, or not enough? Please help




xbubloox
01-15-2009, 10:14 PM
Hi Everybody, I just joined fit day, and have logged my eating for today! Can any of you tell me if I am eating well, or not good enough. Please, any advise will be helpful. Thanks all, and you rock!:carrot:
Please visit my fitday link on the left, and let me know you feedback on my eating for today.... please help


midwife
01-15-2009, 10:48 PM
Hi,
When I click on your link, I get the login page for fitday. Can you post your food for the day here?

gumboot
01-15-2009, 11:36 PM
I can't get it either :(

Can I ask you how tall you are?


RN BSN 2009
01-15-2009, 11:38 PM
yup. No luck here. Can you copy and paste what you ate for the day? Thanks!

valpal23
01-15-2009, 11:48 PM
yeah it didnt work when i clicked it either

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 12:30 AM
it will let you see, if you are a member i guess. but ok here is what ate today...

Breakfast: 1 cup stir fried mushrooms in olive oil - 3 scrambled eggs

Lunch: qty.1 foster farms turkey italian link = 84 grams, and 1 cup stir fried green beans.

Dinner: 2 cups stir fried bok choy in olive oil, and qty.1 foster farms turkey italian link = 84 grams

snack: 1 cup red seedless grapes

1,094 total calories

54.8 fat

75.7 carbs

86.5 protein



water, water, water all day long....

Now, let me know.. thanks gals!

Lovely
01-16-2009, 12:36 AM
I can tell you right off the bat that 1,100 calories a day will NOT be enough.

fatgirl nomore
01-16-2009, 12:40 AM
Girl aren't you starving, I would be miserable and probably have a headache if that's all I ate.

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 01:01 AM
But, I don't want to be fat anymore! Any tips on what else I should eat? and how many calories do you guys think I need? I am 5"11

mollymom
01-16-2009, 02:02 AM
I am a long time Fitday addict. I am 5.8 and I am losing pretty steadily on 1600 calories a day. I LOVE Fitday. I know it is work, but work on building your custom foods list. Mine has about 57 entries on it now. At 5'11 you can eat 1600 calories like me, and lose. Try to aim for NUTRITION. Fiber and protein, low sodium..blah blah blah. I eat steel cut oats, with raisins, walnuts and cinnaomn for breakfast. THAT alone will set you up for the day. Building your custom foods list takes a few minutes a day until you get your regular foods entered. Practise navigating the site until you learn how to use your recent and custom foods effectively. At your height and weight try...try...try to get used to the idea of eating more, on a regular basis, focusing on nutrion and be willing to take a slow and steady loss. This will encourage you to learn new and healthy eating habits which will lead to not only weight loss but a healthy energetic body.

Fitday's biggest drawback is its database. You have to be willing to work on your custom foods list, or become adept at making a best guess using Fit's database. Since most foods have a nutrition label on them now, your custom foods list can be built quickly..if you are willing to put in a few minutes a day.

www.nutritiondata.com is a good alternative to get nutrition data.

Best of luck..see you on FitDAy!:carrot:

cfmama
01-16-2009, 02:10 AM
I'll tell you that I started at 376 and ate 1800 calories a day for the last almost four months... and lost 63 lbs. SO I think you might want to start around that amount or MORE (maybe 1900-2000) and see how it goes!!!

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 02:11 AM
I am a long time Fitday addict. I am 5.8 and I am losing pretty steadily on 1600 calories a day. I LOVE Fitday. I know it is work, but work on building your custom foods list. Mine has about 57 entries on it now. At 5'11 you can eat 1600 calories like me, and lose. Try to aim for NUTRITION. Fiber and protein, low sodium..blah blah blah. I eat steel cut oats, with raisins, walnuts and cinnaomn for breakfast. THAT alone will set you up for the day. Building your custom foods list takes a few minutes a day until you get your regular foods entered. Practise navigating the site until you learn how to use your recent and custom foods effectively. At your height and weight try...try...try to get used to the idea of eating more, on a regular basis, focusing on nutrion and be willing to take a slow and steady loss. This will encourage you to learn new and healthy eating habits which will lead to not only weight loss but a healthy energetic body.

Fitday's biggest drawback is its database. You have to be willing to work on your custom foods list, or become adept at making a best guess using Fit's database. Since most foods have a nutrition label on them now, your custom foods list can be built quickly..if you are willing to put in a few minutes a day.

www.nutritiondata.com is a good alternative to get nutrition data.

Best of luck..see you on FitDAy!:carrot:

Can you tell me your whole menu?

rodeogirl
01-16-2009, 02:13 AM
If you don't want to be fat anymore you have to find a plan that you can do forever.

Don't make the common mistake of trying to get rid of it all right now. It's not going to happen. But with a good plan you will see steady weight loss and you won't quit because your plan will be so fun and easy that you won't WANT to quit.

Apples, bananas, and other fruit will add bulk and fiber for reasonable calories. Watch breads and rice they are calorie dense and not so much nutrition. But do eat. I use the Daily Plate but I think Fitday is similar. Plug your data in (height, weight, age, etc.) and choose 1-3 lbs/week weight loss and it will tell you how many calories you get. I bet for you it'll be right around 2000 a day.

I started in November pretty close to your weight and am down almost 25 pounds already. I started with a goal of 3lbs/week. That's on the high end but for those of us that started at over 300lbs I think it's a reasonable place to start. But even if you "only" do 2lbs/week you'll be down 100lbs a year from now.

Slow and steady wins this race.

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 02:19 AM
Yes, I understand what you are saying, it is just what I am eating, I am not hungry anymore. I mean, i get hunger pangs in the evening, but I just slug down a glass of water...

I have this one question though: Will I still lose weight with 1000-1200 calories per day? Will I still lose weight?

LandonsBaby
01-16-2009, 02:27 AM
I have this one question though: Will I still lose weight with 1000-1200 calories per day? Will I still lose weight?

Let's be honest here. Yeah, for a while. Then you'll start to feel deprived, hungry, irritable, tired, achy and overall like crap. You'll gain back what you lost PLUS some. Ask me how I know this??? :D It's very common for people to want to start out like gangbusters and eat very little to lose a lot of weight. It doesn't work. It isn't healthy.

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 02:33 AM
Let's be honest here. Yeah, for a while. Then you'll start to feel deprived, hungry, irritable, tired, achy and overall like crap. You'll gain back what you lost PLUS some. Ask me how I know this??? :D It's very common for people to want to start out like gangbusters and eat very little to lose a lot of weight. It doesn't work. It isn't healthy.

But it WILL work right? and I cannot gain it back if I don't eat junk. right?

rodeogirl
01-16-2009, 02:46 AM
If you really want to lose weight that fast you should do it under a doctor's care. Of course you will lose weight if you eat 1000 calories. You'll lose weight if you eat 100 calories. But will you be healthy? Will you be able to stick with it?

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 02:50 AM
I am so desparate though. I will try to eat more.... and I am not expecting to lose it all so fast... I give myself a maximum of 2 yrs to lose this 150 lbs., and I want it so bad, that I am so sad.

cfmama
01-16-2009, 02:57 AM
it will STOP working. It's UNHEALTHY. It's NOT GOOD for your body to eat so little calories!!! Please don't :(

Your body will eventually go into survival mode and hang on to EVERY SINGLE THING YOU EAT and the weight will creep back on and it will be impossible to lose any more. It's a recipe for disaster. We care about you and we don't want you to fail (((hugs)))

rodeogirl
01-16-2009, 02:59 AM
Yeah - I can understand that. And I bet if you took a poll you'd find that most of us (me for sure) have started out desperate to lose so we start on some super strict/restrictive diet vowing to "do it this time!" and then somewhere we fall flat on our face.

If a marathon runner takes off like a 100yard man can he finish the race? No. Eventually your body will win. It's like holding your breath. You can do it for quite a long time but you can't do it long term. Your body will win.

So think of going too low on calories as if your holding your breath. At first it's not bad at all, in fact it's no problem. Then it gets a little harder and you double your resolve. Then it gets painful but you hold out as long as possible. But it doesn't take THAT long before your body flat out takes over.

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 03:15 AM
Ok - 5"11 323 lbs - How many calories do I need? and what can I eat more of to make it up?

cfmama
01-16-2009, 03:20 AM
If you consume 2,970 calories per day, you should maintain your weight.
To lose one pound per week, you will need to eat approximately 2470 calories per day.
To lose two pounds per week, you will need to eat approximately 1970 calories per day.

(so says one calculator I found)
Eat lots of fresh fruits and veg
lots of good lean protein
healthy whole grain carbs
good fats (olive oil, almonds, peanut butter etc)

I try to pair carbs with protein and fruit/veg with almost everything.

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 03:30 AM
So for 3 lbs per week, i should eat 1470? I can do that....
that makes sense.

rodeogirl
01-16-2009, 03:30 AM
Hmmm the calculator I found had me eating over 2000 calories to lose 2lbs a week when I was 318 and I'm a lot shorter so I bet 1970 will get you closer to 3lbs/week.

Anyhow 1970 looks like a great number to start at from what I've learned so far.

1400ish will get you more than 3lbs/week I think. I'm eating around 1700 at 5'7 and 294 and losing about 3lbs a week. Everyone's body is different but I'd start with 1970 for a week or two and see what happens.

WormwoodDoll
01-16-2009, 03:39 AM
You'd be surprised but I learned eating MORE can help you loose MORE.

At one point and time I tried eating under 1,000 calories a day. I grew tired of it. I lost 16lbs the first two weeks, then things just stalled and I quickly gave up and gained it all back. When I first started again in September, I tried 1,200 calories a day. I lost 1-2lbs steadily. Then I upped my calorie intake to 1,600 calories and the first 2 weeks I lost about 3.5lbs. Now I eat up to 1,800 and I'm still losing 2.5lbs.

I'd advise you to start out at about 1,800 - 2,000 calories for your weight and exercise, of course. Give it about 2-3 weeks, if you don't lose, then either up or subtract 200 calories. It's all about experimenting and seeing what works for you. It won't be easy, but it will get there eventually.

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 03:58 AM
Ok, I just ate some more, I had a bannana... and 2 slice of provolone cheese..... now I am at 1398 cals

Pandora123a
01-16-2009, 10:30 AM
xbubloox,

One of the tricks to long term weight loss (and maintenance) is keeping your metabolism up. To do that you need to eat. If you start out so restricted, eventually you will have to drop your calories and have no where to go.

Think about what you used to eat. If you were to log a "typical" day in fitday how many calories would that be? Were you gaining or maintaining? If you were maintaining, then dropping those calories by a third should start some significant loss. (Based on my history I would be surprised if you were eating less than 3000 calories a day, so 2000 would definitely result in loss.)

Increasing your movement (calorie usage) also has a major impact.

The wonderful thing about weight loss is that unlike growing your hair out, every pound lost makes a difference! Right now you can only imagine the difference between your current weight and 179. Think about how much better you will look and feel at 300...at 275...at 250. Nothing you do will result in your being at 179 next month. (I'm not suggesting you think that.) Your goal is to get to 179 eventually, and then to stay there! Doing that requires major planning and changes in your life.

Oprah is a wonderful/horrible example. She's done every extreme diet. Presumably she had every possible support, a private chef and trainer, a team of folks dedicated to making her look good. All the crazy diets resulted in her damaging her body and gaining the weight back again...and again.

Be a long term winner. Don't be afraid of food, it is fuel and your body needs it. Look at making permanent changes. If you do you can achieve your goals. (Sorry for being so long-winded.)

Good luck

170starting
01-16-2009, 10:39 AM
I agree with the other girls. You have started entirely too low. Your body is going to go into a starvation mode and slow your metabolism down. It is best to start a little higher because at the calories you are eating now, if you hit a plateau, you have no where to go. I recommend adding some raw veggies into your diet and maybe a salad (use dressing very sparingly) with each meal, as the dressing will add so many calories to your day if you are not careful. Also, how much olive oil are you using a day? Make sure you measure that as well because you could be taking in far more calories than you think.

Glory87
01-16-2009, 11:42 AM
I have this one question though: Will I still lose weight with 1000-1200 calories per day? Will I still lose weight?

All my life, I was desperate to lose weight. I knew I could cut some calories and lose some weight, I figured if I cut MORE calories I would lose MORE weight. I would eat between 800-1000 calories a day. And it did work. For a little while. I lost weight but I NEVER kept it off.

The "eat a lot less, lose a lot more" plan was how I managed to "diet" myself from a 140 lb high school student to a 200 lb 35 year old woman. Your will can be strong for awhile, but your body is a very powerful thing. When it gets hungry enough, it will DRIVE you to eat. Binges after restrictions always made me feel out of control and powerless, I used to cry because I had no "will power." I should have hugged my body - I was treating it badly by starving it and it just wanted food. Be good to your body and it will be good to you.

Losing weight and regaining is very painful. Every time I regained weight, I regained MORE weight. When you lose weight by cutting calories so drastically, you lose a little muscle each time. That means, you wreck your metabolism since with less muscle, your body needs fewer calories to just live (because muscle is metabolically active and fat is not).

Since I have done this and it didn't work, and I was hungry and miserable and devastated when I regained, I would encourage you NOT to go this route. I would want to spare anyone the pain of my experiences.

I can tell you what DID work. Finding a lot of foods I liked to eat, eating 1400-1600 calories a day (but my initial weight was lower than yours and I am 4 inches shorter, you could eat more), eating whole foods and practicing volumetrics (lots of low calorie foods to stay full). I also food planned, counted calories and food journaled.

Good luck!!!

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 01:45 PM
I just added the small things I had with my food yesterday, like butter and olive oil. and I have had about 1,841 calories. is this better?

Lovely
01-16-2009, 02:00 PM
My honest suggestions are:

Begin by eating 2,000 calories a day.
Drink your water like you have been.
Start exercising slowly (by taking short walks or even just parking farther from a building).

Use mostly healthier foods to fill those 2,000 calories. (Because 2,000 calories of Doritos isn't gonna cut it, of course) Such as: Fruits and Vegetables, Whole Grain Breads and Pastas, Brown Rices, Reduced Fat Dairy Products, Lean Meats like Chicken. But, leave room for a few favorites that you can plan into your meals.

I know you realize that this might take at least 2 years, but that's why we all want this to be sustainable for you. These changes that we're making are helping all of us get to our goals, but honestly, after doing this for so long it's making me feel healthier and that in itself is a great reward.

Listen to the people who have "been there, done that, doesn't work".

If I may give you an example of some of the foods I ate yesterday:

B: 2% Cottage Cheese, Low-Fat Yogurt, Apple

Post work-out Snack: Luna Bar

Lunch: Salad w/Mixed Lettuce, Cabbage, tomatoes, alfalfa sprouts, Fat Free Feta (2 oz), Grilled chicken breast strips (3 oz), 1/2 an Avocado, Low Calorie Spray Dressing

Snack: Pear, Greek Yogurt w/Agave Nectar, Fiber One Bar

Dinner: Salsa Chicken w/Extra Tomatoes, Peppers, Onions, Garlic & topped with some parmesaen cheese.

Dessert: 2 dulce de leche jello pudding cups

So I can note three things on menu that weren't the most wholesome of wholesome things. But, I did get a lot of fruits & veggies in. Got some lean protein, and some fat from cheese & dairy. Not my worst day :) But you can see how you've got to make this live-able.

Lovely
01-16-2009, 02:01 PM
I just added the small things I had with my food yesterday, like butter and olive oil. and I have had about 1,841 calories. is this better?

Absolutely that's MUCH better. We can't forget to add in butter/olive oil/little slices of cheese.

It all adds up to daily calorie intake. So be cautious & be meticulous.

FB
01-16-2009, 02:06 PM
You know - I just wanted to offer a HUGE hug and my admiration. It's totally freaking awesome that you're taking everyone's great nutrition advice and doing this right. You rock!

Seriously, when I first started reading this post I was scared for you, by the end I had a huge smile on my face that you're so willing to experiment and find the right thing for you.

xox! You can do it! Keep trying, keep asking questions and keep experimenting!

xbubloox
01-16-2009, 10:25 PM
Yes, I am listening to what all of you are saying, and using your advise. I am adding every thing i use. butter, olive oil etc. I am keeping track in my fit day. I am about 1661 calories today. Thanks so much.

I was feeling like I was starving. not in my tummy, but my overall feeling. I felt so good eating a nice T-bone and eggs this morning. Thanks all so very much!

SuchAPrettyFace
01-17-2009, 05:13 PM
A few thoughts, from someone who is also sick of being fat & has tried many many MANY different plans.

It sounds like you are low-carbing it. Is this right? Having a serving of something carby/starchy in the morning will give you fuel. My trainer said not to eat carbs after 8pm, so I would suggest adding a serving of something healthy, high fiber, that has whole grains & very little sugar to give you some energy first thing in the morning.

Now I hate oatmeal as much as the Hatfields hated the McCoys. But I eat it 3 times a week. My cholesterol has come down 13 points. (dude seriously i hate oatmeal) If you are like me & can't choke it down, one of the best tips I've ever gotten from 3FC is to mix in a spoon of peanut butter. You want something non-hydrogenated in a peanut butter, otherwise you just made it unhealthy. So read the label before you buy it. I also sprinkle on Vietnamese cinnamon because as I have mentioned, I need to make it taste good or I won't eat it.

If you can't do oatmeal, I like Healthy Life bread, it's low in calories AND sodium & you can have 2 slices & it counts as a serving. Because who doesn't want toast with steak & eggs? :T They have a flaxseed one that you can do with a pb & j (spreadable fruit for me!) or you could make grilled cheese, or whatever floats your boat.

As far as the oil, canola is getting a bad rap. I'm Italian & we use olive oil for cold things only like salads. If you want to mix it up, canola is not that bad for you. Also, don't forget to measure your oils & butter. That helped me a LOT. Also nuts & fresh avocados are a good source of healthy fat, but these must be measured as well.

If you are lactose intolerant, please ignore this next piece of advice, but try adding some skim milk in there as well. If you're gonna do yogurt, get the Greek yogurt, it's got way more protein & to me, tastes like sour cream.

You might want to try a less fatty cut of meat than a turkey snausage. Boneless skinless chicken, lean beef, shrimp, unbreaded fish, etc. I know for me I would get bored of snausages pretty quickly, except my veggies ones. They also sell cartons of just egg whites, you could supplement your egg breakfasts with those. I've done it & no one even noticed.

If you're gonna add calories, I'm thinking cheese is not the way to go, for right now. You can eat so much more fresh veggies for next to no calories, and they really fill you up. Back in the day on the exchange program from one dietician I saw FRESH cucumbers, mushrooms & spinach were considered free foods that you could have up to 3 cups of each per day w/o having to count those calories, AS LONG AS YOU EAT THEM PLAIN!!! If you're a dip or dressing person, that's fine, just count it in there w/your fat servings. Have you ever tried to measure 3 cups of cucumber slices, let alone eat them? :lol: Oh, the things we do for thin thighs!!!

As far as you asking, "But will I still lose weight", yes, yes, you will. Your body needs those calories, so if you aren't getting them with food, it will start on your muscles first, not your fat. So keep that in mind when undereating. You WILL lose weight, but you will not lose fat.

And it goes without saying, but w/o exercise, even just a half hour walk to start out is better than nothing, you'll plateau after awhile on the new eating plan.

Welcome & congrats for deciding you want to do this for yourself. :hug: I know you can do it!!!

xbubloox
01-18-2009, 11:33 AM
snausages? lol I love that! - I love oatmeal, ill try that. My weight has not moved in 2 days, could it be because i got my period this morning?

Glory87
01-18-2009, 12:29 PM
I don't think you should expect to lose weight every day, or every 2 days. I just worry that you will let the scale set your motivation (yay, it's down, I'm doing great! Keep on! Boo, it didn't move, dieting sucks, I quit!). You can't control the scale, focus on the things you can control!

SuchAPrettyFace
01-18-2009, 11:13 PM
You should only be weighing yourself once a week & yes, during your TOM (time Of Month) the scale moves a little slower.

lottie63
01-18-2009, 11:53 PM
great advice for her everyone! I also have been there, done that, didn't work.

I 'dieted' my way to 299 lbs. I ALWAYS gained weight back after dieting. :(

it kind of makes me sad to see people so frustrated that they want to starve themselves. i mean, like I said, been there, done that, and it WAS sad. My heart would beat funny, sometimes i wouldn't eat for weeks at a time. I always lost fast, then stopped losing for a long time and trust me, it's hard to keep going when you aren't eating at all and not losing weight either. then you just BINGE.

Good luck girly! :)

xbubloox
01-19-2009, 01:38 AM
Yeah, i would never actually starve myself. I am eating alot better now. And i am not seeing it as a diet at all, but a lifestyle change. I now understand how wonderful veggies taste, and a nice juicy steak? Oh man, I am just focusing on all the good things i like about my veggies. I mean, i have always loved my veggies, but liked the sweets a little to much. So now that I am off the sugar, i feel great! and that scale is moving all of the sudden, my Ketosis sticks are dark purple, but i make sure i am getting all good veggies and meats. I am very happy. I even feel a warmth in my body, not a fever, but a warmth from the inside. Thanks all!