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LandonsBaby
01-12-2009, 04:57 PM
Would/Do you drink chocolate milk after a workout? I know some recommend it and I know some do NOT. What is your opinion?


midwife
01-12-2009, 05:02 PM
Sure. I read an article in Runners World about a study that indicated chocolate milk helps runners recover from a long run just as well if not better than sports drinks.

So, yes after a long run.
No after weight lifting. I have a chocolate protein shake though. :)

JulieJ08
01-12-2009, 05:09 PM
I just bought some chocolate soymilk to try for this very reason. Just an experiment, you know ;) Now, I just have to start a workout that warrants this treatment ...


Meg
01-12-2009, 05:12 PM
If anyone's interested, here's a link to the original study that compared chocolate milk to other sports drinks for post-workout recovery: Chocolate Milk As A Post-Workout Recovery Aid (http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&q=cache:TQJ5Ckej1HgJ:www.milknewsroom.com/downloads/stager_chocmilk_study.pdf+author:%22Karp%22+intitl e:%22Chocolate+Milk+as+a+Post-Exercise+Recovery+Aid%22+). Apparently chocolate milk contains a 3:1 ratio of simple carbs to protein that is considered ideal for post-exercise recovery. The sugar in it is a simple carb, which is recommended post-workout for fast glycogen resynthesis (getting glycogen back into depleted muscles).

Even though I understand the theory behind post-workout chocolate milk, I just don't think I could handle the sugar -- huge trigger! So my post-workout carb is oatmeal. :T

midwife
01-12-2009, 05:15 PM
Cool! Thanks, Meg! So it was for cyclists....and male ones at that! I shall still extrapolate the results to myself as a female runner. :lol:

LandonsBaby
01-12-2009, 05:21 PM
Sure. I read an article in Runners World about a study that indicated chocolate milk helps runners recover from a long run just as well if not better than sports drinks.

So, yes after a long run.
No after weight lifting. I have a chocolate protein shake though. :)

What if you were not a runner, just someone who walks a few times a week in order to lose weight? I was having this discussion with someone on a site where no one runs and the workouts that are done are minimal. But she was advocating chocolate milk to everyone. I personally disagree with having that sort of sugar after a workout. Carbs yes, definitely but not "table sugar" they put in chocolate milk. That should be a treat, not something you have on a regular basis. That is my thought anyway.

Meg
01-12-2009, 05:33 PM
Landon, I'd call that wistful thinking on the part of the occasional walker. :lol: The role of sugar is to replenish muscles that are depleted of glycogen and to act as a fast transport to get protein back into muscles. For most of us, walking isn't going to be the kind of workout that depletes glycogen and requires replenishment. A heavy weightlifting session or hard cardio, yes, but not the kind of exercise that you're describing.

Ah, but we all can dream ... :rofl:

LandonsBaby
01-12-2009, 05:35 PM
Yes, well, I know that but I find it hard to get my thoughts out to other people. I was told the woman I was debating with is "real runner". Whatever that is. I'm assuming it means she runs on a regular basis? But no one else she was talking to does. And I'm the only one who there who does any weight training. Well, I think the one woman used to do it but I don't think she is doing it anymore. I am so bad at giving my opinion. I always feel stupid afterward. :dizzy:

ennay
01-12-2009, 05:48 PM
Yes, but not for the reason you listed. Its the combination of sugar and the combo of whey and casein protein .

I buy organic chocolate milk so that I have sugar, not HFCS in my chocolate milk.

And I only use it after very long runs, there is simply no need for any kind of "recovery drink" for less than 90 minutes. I'll use it after a 2+ hour session though.

ennay
01-12-2009, 05:53 PM
But she was advocating chocolate milk to everyone. I personally disagree with having that sort of sugar after a workout. Carbs yes, definitely but not "table sugar" they put in chocolate milk. That should be a treat, not something you have on a regular basis. That is my thought anyway.

That woman was high. Chocolate milk is not miracle food and is very caloric. It's only needed after extreme sessions where your muscles are DEPLETED. Sugar to replace glycogen, protein to allow muscles to absorb glycogen, some fluid for hydration. You can do about the same with a good turkey sandwich except immediately after hard effort the body doesnt digest very quickly, and the milk absorbs faster.

Since the study many of the sports drink companies have boosted the protein to try to more closely mimic. But gee, would I rather chug some lemon flavored glop or chocolate milk...lemme think ;)

mazza
01-12-2009, 07:28 PM
Is there anything chocolate milk could do for replenishing depleted glycogen levels that another healthier snak with complex carbs and protein couldn't do better?

I understand the theory behind what you're saying, Landons baby. Of course it will work for giving you a boost after a workout - it's loaded with sugar (fat, too - and since its milk, also some protein), but there's healthier options that will be a lot more beneficial for your body.

Surely a cup of skim milk with a small handful of almonds or tuna with 1/2 a slice of wholegrain toast or an apple would provide what the body needs after a work out in a better way?

Plus, it'd be required after a high intensity work out. Most people that engage in that sort of thing know to have the right balance of carbs before and after a workout - before for fuel, and after for recovery.

But chocolate milk is far more marketableto the general population, and if someone can get you to believe you're doing the right thing by reaching for a cup of choco instead of a healthier alternative, who's gonna say no to that? ;)

JackieRn
01-12-2009, 08:21 PM
I just bought some chocolate soymilk to try for this very reason. Just an experiment, you know ;) Now, I just have to start a workout that warrants this treatment ...

Chocolate soymilk, what a concept. That sounds so good, I had forgotten that there was such a thing. I now have something to look forward to. Oh how I miss chocolate.

ennay
01-12-2009, 08:24 PM
mazza - well the point of the study was to refute the need to buy specialized products like gatorade.

In theory liquids will be absorbed faster than almonds, tuna , toast and an apple...and its a lot more portable. And simple carbs are DEFINITELY absorbed faster and more convertable to glycogen than complex carbs. There are certain situations where relying on complex carbs will not provide fuel at the speed the body would like to absorb it and simple carbs do the job better. The right fuel for the right job.

But it is being overhyped (as have ALL sports drinks) as being appropriate and even necessary for every workout.

Personally, I have found that if I drink about 10-12 oz of chocolate milk immediately after an 18-20 mile run - WAY before I could stomach anything that requires chewing. Or for that matter way faster than I could EAT 200 calories of solid food - I will be less hungry and eat SIGNIFICANTLY less during the remainder of the day than if I eat more complex slower digesting foods.

I used to come home from a run and eat oatmeal and eggs and veggies - or a sandwich etc...exactly what you would think would be more satiating. And then all freaking day long I was RAVENOUS and no amount of food would stop it.

Now I come back, drink my chocolate milk. and then return to my normal day. (which means breakfast immediately following the chocolate milk).

It saves me a net 600-700 calories over the course of the day to just take the 200 calorie hit when my body is screaming for it.

RN BSN 2009
01-12-2009, 08:30 PM
I think the chocolate milk would appeal to the workouts that Michael Phelps does, has anyone seen his power breakfasts?? lol

LandonsBaby
01-12-2009, 08:33 PM
I think the chocolate milk would appeal to the workouts that Michael Phelps does, has anyone seen his power breakfasts?? lol

Oh but he'd get to drink an entire gallon. I cant say I'm not a little envious. :D

mazza
01-12-2009, 08:44 PM
mazza - well the point of the study was to refute the need to buy specialized products like gatorade.

In theory liquids will be absorbed faster than almonds, tuna , toast and an apple...and its a lot more portable. And simple carbs are DEFINITELY absorbed faster and more convertable to glycogen than complex carbs. There are certain situations where relying on complex carbs will not provide fuel at the speed the body would like to absorb it and simple carbs do the job better. The right fuel for the right job.

I understand what you're saying. I was speaking from experience. I find that If I have enough CHOs before an intense workout (which is several times a week) then consuming complex CHOs afterwards works for me personally. Plus, when you eat them with protein it aids absorbtion, and milk that is high and sugar in fat (choco) is low in protein - that's why I mentioned the healthier alternative.


Personally, I have found that if I drink about 10-12 oz of chocolate milk immediately after an 18-20 mile run - WAY before I could stomach anything that requires chewing. Or for that matter way faster than I could EAT 200 calories of solid food - I will be less hungry and eat SIGNIFICANTLY less during the remainder of the day than if I eat more complex slower digesting foods.

Do you guys have Up & Go in the states? It's a milk type drink - 300 calories. 20gms protein, 37gms carbohydrates - this is what I meant by a better alternative to chocolate milk.

Don't get me wrong here - I'm just clearing up where I'm coming from. By all means, ennay if choco works for you, awesome. I might even have to give it a try after all this talk!:D

LandonsBaby
01-12-2009, 08:48 PM
I have never heard of Up & Go but that doesn't mean we don't have it. We might have something with a different name too. I personally LOVE chocolate milk. But I can't see myself drinking all that sugar after I workout. I have in the past but I quit. I don't think I do a workout worthy of sugar.

mazza
01-12-2009, 08:55 PM
Landon, Up & Go is awesome stuff. It's marketed here as the 'liquid breakfast'. You're right - I'm sure you have something similar in the states.

Found some linkage if anyone's interested in a browse:
http://www.upandgoenergize.com.au/energize/energize-mocha.html

http://www.upandgoenergize.com.au/energize/#mocha

ennay
01-12-2009, 09:51 PM
I think the chocolate milk would appeal to the workouts that Michael Phelps does, has anyone seen his power breakfasts?? lol

Chocolate milk would be a vast improvement on a lot of his breakfasts!

HMS
01-12-2009, 10:14 PM
I tend to have a banana and/or a protein shake .... and lots of water .... but am not opposed to the idea of chocolate milk ....

ennay
01-12-2009, 10:26 PM
Landon, Up & Go is awesome stuff. It's marketed here as the 'liquid breakfast'. You're right - I'm sure you have something similar in the states.

Found some linkage if anyone's interested in a browse:
http://www.upandgoenergize.com.au/energize/energize-mocha.html

http://www.upandgoenergize.com.au/energize/#mocha

heh...see I would see that as a step down. Too many ingredients, too many chemicals. :)

Shannon in ATL
01-12-2009, 10:35 PM
I often do fat free milk with 1/2 tsp (1/4 svg) of low sugar hershey's syrup and 1 scoop of protein powder after a workout, just did it because it was a convenient vehicle for the protein powder when I first started exercising and hated the taste. Doesn't really taste much like chocolate at all, actually, more like vanilla ice cream protein powder in milk. I don't find it makes me more hungry later though, it actually fills me up until time for my next meal.

JulieJ08
01-12-2009, 10:55 PM
Personally, I have found that if I drink about 10-12 oz of chocolate milk immediately after an 18-20 mile run - WAY before I could stomach anything that requires chewing. Or for that matter way faster than I could EAT 200 calories of solid food - I will be less hungry and eat SIGNIFICANTLY less during the remainder of the day than if I eat more complex slower digesting foods.

I used to come home from a run and eat oatmeal and eggs and veggies - or a sandwich etc...exactly what you would think would be more satiating. And then all freaking day long I was RAVENOUS and no amount of food would stop it.

Now I come back, drink my chocolate milk. and then return to my normal day. (which means breakfast immediately following the chocolate milk).

It saves me a net 600-700 calories over the course of the day to just take the 200 calorie hit when my body is screaming for it.

I find that so interesting. Hopefully I'll remember to try that if I EVER build up more mileage :)

MariaMaria
01-13-2009, 02:40 AM
If I'm not running long enough to hit the wall* (and I'm not running 20 miles at a time, ever, no way no how) I don't see any need to instantly replenish the glycogen in my muscles. Good overall nutrition will take care of that before my next run.

* Usually around 2000 calories burned

ImpalaHoarder
01-17-2009, 01:04 PM
This is one of those things that depends a lot on the situation and the person. I think the point here, though, is not so much weight loss as performance. I certainly wouldn't drink chocolate milk after workouts on a regular basis, and I regularly work out late in the day only having eaten about 600 calories all day. It's not optimal for the exercise, but it works for my purposes since I'm not that concerned about being in peak condition to be able to react quickly. But two weeks from now I have three whole-day tournaments in a row, and I really care about how I do in each, so I am planning to drink chocolate milk after each of the first two. A really serious athlete with a fast metabolism wouldn't even hesitate that much. So it depends, but I wouldn't totally throw out the idea.

LandonsBaby
01-17-2009, 03:34 PM
My point wasn't actually about weight loss at all. It's about sugar. Yes, if you are in a competition of some sort I can see using chocolate milk. I would. But on a regular basis, I would not consume table sugar like it's perfectly healthy.

Diva
01-17-2009, 04:18 PM
Heck, I drink Chocolate Milk even I haven't worked out. :P

ennay
01-17-2009, 04:53 PM
My point wasn't actually about weight loss at all. It's about sugar. Yes, if you are in a competition of some sort I can see using chocolate milk. I would. But on a regular basis, I would not consume table sugar like it's perfectly healthy.

aaaahhh so the poll was set with a bias ;). It is neither the most healthy nor the least healthy thing in the world.

In that case my answer is more direct

Yes, I think there are certain circumstances in which ingesting processed sugar will do no harm and may even do some good.

LandonsBaby
01-17-2009, 05:44 PM
Heck, I drink Chocolate Milk even I haven't worked out. :P
Well, I could drink it by the bucket full. I do LOVE LOVE LOVE it. :D

LandonsBaby
01-17-2009, 05:44 PM
aaaahhh so the poll was set with a bias ;).

Yeah. I thought I was being obvious about it. :lol:

BlueToBlue
01-17-2009, 09:05 PM
I wouldn't drink chocolate milk after a workout, but it has nothing to do with processed sugar. I just prefer to eat my calories, so I never ever ever drink beverages with more than 5 calories per serving unless they also include alcohol :hat: (and if anyone ever comes out with calorie-free wine, I am all over it). I'll eat foods with processed sugar, but no beverages.

But, then, I'm never running 18-20 miles at a time, like ennay, so I've never had the experience of being that famished after exercising. A bowl of oatmeal or oat bran is usually just what I want after my workouts.

chick_in_the_hat
01-17-2009, 09:16 PM
BlueToBlue beat me to it. I prefer not to waste calories on drinks.

I do like a smoothie made with ice, unsweetened chocolate almond milk, splenda and a banana. :T Had one today after my ride, as a matter of fact. :D

sunflowergirl68
01-17-2009, 09:36 PM
You shouldn't ever eat processed sugar, and when you do, in moderation and rarely.

I personally think chocolate milk is disgusting. I don't like it anyways.