Weight Loss Surgery - Alcohol and Gastirc bypass...an experiment so you don't have to!




missangelaks
12-28-2008, 12:28 PM
Hi everyone,

Well, I share this in hopes of preventing anyone else trying this on New Years Eve! I'm glad I didn't do this experiment on New Years, that would have been a bummer, I want to remember the beginning of 2009 and enjoy the party! LOL

Last night I went to a dance club here in town where I love to go and just dance...it's great exercise and a enjoyable way to have fun on the weekend. Ok, I decided that I was going to drink to see what would happen to me post GBP. So, I had one drink and was feeling good, 15 minutes later I had another and was drunk as a skunk...I mean staggering, fall down drunk! 30 minutes later I had another and...passed out on the table...No kidding! Though I struggled to stay awake, I was out to the point of worrying the bouncers! They kept coming over to me "you ok, honey?" "Do you want me to call you a cab?" "Is there someone I can call?" I tried very hard to not pass out completely but after another half hour and 3 glasses of water my bed was sounding very, very warm, cuddly and comfortable! LOL So I called my SIL and he, laughing the whole way, came and got me.

So here's what I learned.

1) Drinking's a bad idea because I could, being the additive type, easily transfer my food addiction to alcohol.

2) The body's defense against alcohol poisoning is throwing up, which is difficult when the alcohol goes directly from the pouch, through the stoma, into the small intestine and straight to the liver. I don't think there would have been any throwing up even though my body might have wanted to last night.

3) Then there is the even more important down fall, who wants to buy drinks for the slobbering drunk lady? I bought my own! LOL There's $20 I wasted on being wasted! :dizzy:

So not worth it...just go and DANCE!! :carrot:

Angela


worthylady
12-28-2008, 09:01 PM
I hope that you made it home safely. I have heard these stories from other post op people. I hear the experience is very unpleasant. As much as I enjoy as glass of wine or two :tantrum: I am just to afraid to try to drink. I give myself at least six months.

RN BSN 2009
12-28-2008, 09:14 PM
wow what an experience


RN BSN 2009
12-28-2008, 09:15 PM
how were you able to handle your alcohol before this?

missangelaks
12-28-2008, 10:40 PM
yes. well, I never drank that much but I have had 3 drinks in the past and was tipsy but not like this! I think it's because I can't eat and drink at the same time...so it was on an empty stomach as well as having a direct line from the alcohol bottle to my liver! :lol: Like I said, NOT worth it! LOL

Leenie
12-29-2008, 09:31 AM
Yikes...... who'da thunk?


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nanj
12-29-2008, 02:16 PM
Ange Marie don't do that again!!!!!! Bet you won't either!!!!! LOL! I tried one of those drinks Mojita, something like that, one that had only about 10% alcohol at Halloween and couldn't feel my knees!!! <giggle> I was not a drinker before this gastric by-pass and certainly won't be now. Now if it was mushy bread in a bottle, might have to give that a try! LOL!

Hope all the oldies and the newbies are doing well. I'm working my brains out and giving my good old hernia work out! Ate a naked sugar cookies' head off yesterday and got the gassy scoots! Won't be doing that again either.

Where's to a thinner healthier New Year for us all. YAHOO

AAAA
12-29-2008, 05:17 PM
Many surgeons say 6-12 mos. before drinking due to the liver having to process the alcohol and the weightloss.

missangelaks
12-29-2008, 05:28 PM
I'm 11 months out and don't see how it could be different...the configuration of my pouch and small intestine won't change anytime soon. LOL It may be that I overloaded the liver with weight loss and alcohol or the fact that one can't really eat much while drinking...in any case, I really don't see how it could change that much with time...there will always be the intravenous line from the alcohol bottle through the pouch to the liver! :D

nanj
12-30-2008, 10:25 AM
Top Ten List For Not Drinking Alcohol After WLS

10. Drinks have HUGE useless drinkable calories, which we don't need.
9. If you vomit after drinking, you will probably slip in it and end up with a concussion or a broken leg. Besides why waste the protein!!!!
8. Alcohol makes you dehydrated.
7. No matter how much we all like everyone at Weightloss Surgery, we will not bail you out of jail for drunken and disorderly.
6. Alcohol doesn't mix with most prescription drugs.
5. Do you seriously think that you look good with a lampshade on your head
dancing around the room with a sloped drink down the front of your nice outfit.
4. As if we didn't already of enough problems, alcohol can increase our risk of heart disease, hypertension, breast cancer, stroke, good old obesity, diabetes and suicides. Oh did I mention, sudden cardiac death!
3. How many times have we seen on the new about a naked drunk driving their lawn tractor down the middle of a snow covered street singing at the top of their lungs being pursured by the police. Now if you are a WLS patient and you skin is all jiggly and saggy and your the one sitting on the tractor, I don't want to start to even imagine that.......Holy Macerol!
2. Alcohol is addictive and with our need to replace food with something else.....there is this thing called transferred addictions.
1. IT IS JUST PLAIN STUPID!!!!!!!!!!

Learn from Ange people. Don't go there! Now a personal note to Ange.....the more I think about it Missy......You are grounded, go to your room and no salsa for a week!!!! Don't make me come to Idaho!!! LOL!!!

annie175
12-30-2008, 10:39 AM
I waited till the 1 year anniversary for alcohol. I must say, I am almost 2 years out (feb 12) and I keep my intake of alcohol to one beverage, drinking slowly. That causes me to feel the tingle, but not get drunk. I don't drink every time I go out either.

anastasia
12-30-2008, 01:17 PM
well at least now you know not to drink! hmmm, hope you're recovering ok now though it could have been a lot worse.

missangelaks
12-30-2008, 01:55 PM
Nancy! ROFLMAO....grounded! You're too much!

Ophelia924
12-30-2008, 03:49 PM
I may have one drink every once and awhile when with friends. I find that yes I get hammered off that one drink but i.t also wears off faster.

KO
12-31-2008, 03:33 PM
1 drink sipped gingerly if i drink at a "normal speed" i'm hammered for a half hour then stone cold sober
also noooo mixed drinks they just make ou sick

worthylady
12-31-2008, 09:25 PM
OK now you all are scarring the newbies :eek: I am just getting over getting food stuck in my pouch :barf: I can"t take it any more!

SpookyXXL
12-31-2008, 10:12 PM
I can't post a link yet so please bare with me for pasting this story from my local paper this last month.

THE IDAHO STATESMAN 12/19/08

Tears flowed freely from many an eye Thursday as a much-admired former school teacher was sentenced for being drunk at the wheel when she struck and killed a beloved grandmother in a Boise crosswalk last November.

Mary Ellen Zahm was given six months in jail, 10 years probation and a suspended 10-year prison sentence.

Patricia Eisenman died Nov. 30, 2007, the night she was struck, and her 83rd birthday.

"If there's one word that can describe it, it's tragic," 4th District Court Judge Michael McLaughlin said.

Eisenman's daughter, Kathryn Marie, described the horror of going through her mother's bloody clothes and seeing her mom's swollen, disfigured face.

"I have never experienced shock like that in my life," Marie said. "I couldn't believe it was true."

Zahm, whose blood alcohol level that night was tested at .09, .01 over the legal limit, pleaded guilty to felony vehicular manslaughter.

"DUI is the most preventable crime," said Ada County Deputy Prosecutor Jill Longhurst. "It's not an accident. It's not a 'but for the grace of God go I.' It's a crime."

McLaughlin said Zahm faces another 30 days to six months in prison if her probation officer deems it necessary at the completion of her sentence.

She will pay restitution and a fine of $2,000, though $1,000 was suspended. Zahm's license is suspended for two years, with no option for limited privileges during that time.

Longhurst said restaurant receipts show that Zahm drank four glasses of chardonnay before she hit Eisenman on Hays Street, near 12th Street.

Zahm's attorney, Michael Bartlett, said Zahm had 2.5 drinks that night over a three-hour period. He said one reason she may not have recognized she was in danger of impairment was because she had gastric bypass surgery in 2005.

Zahm's surgeon testified that people who have the surgery metabolize alcohol differently, that perhaps more of the alcohol goes directly to the bloodstream.

Zahm took responsibility for her actions.

"I'm sorry I can't give your mom back. All I can do is change the here and now. I'm so sorry," said Zahm. "I hope one day her family can find resolve and find peace. If I could take it back, I would."

Bartlett asked McLaughlin for a withheld judgment, in part because Zahm has no prior arrests and she's been a responsible, caring, compassionate mother, teacher and community member.

But McLaughlin said the Nov. 30 crash, which was re-enacted during the investigation, wasn't a case of "ordinary negligence."

"This was a case in which you drank and drove," he said. "Your reaction time was impaired. Field sobriety tests clearly indicated you were impaired."

Bartlett told the judge Zahm is close to financial ruin. He asked that she be allowed to go home and get her affairs in order before going to jail. McLaughlin sent her to jail in handcuffs.

Eisenman's daughter, Becky McGavin, said she was satisfied with Zahm's sentence.

"It feels peaceful to me, in that justice was served," McGavin said. "Nothing is going to bring mom back, and that's difficult. But maybe it'll make someone think twice before they have three glasses of wine and drive."



It is easy enough to get drunk and do stupid stuff when you can drink like an average person but add to it something that makes you get drunk or sick faster and it is awful. For a long time I was on a med that kicked my tush everytime I drank, I was young and would tell myself "just one drink" and without fail I would end up drinking more and doing something dangerous but I was lucky that I did not have a car or get something in my stupidity.

I have learned as i get older to be able to drink a single drink if I go out, this does not mean I always do but I know I will try very hard after surgery to be careful.

I hope you all have (had) a safe NYE and that 2009 brings a Healthier you.

missangelaks
01-01-2009, 05:36 AM
Thank you for sharing that story, honey. That was moving and...sobering.

Angela

chunky1
01-01-2009, 07:38 PM
I enjoy a glass of wine every now and then. I haven't ever been a heavy drinker. I am not even a month out from the surgery but hope that someday I may be able to enjoy a small glass of wine now and then?!!