LA Weight Loss - Calorie Counting VS Weight Watchers Points




cathyw
12-26-2008, 01:09 AM
I would like some feed back to why some of you choose CC over WW
and vice versa. I have done WW points in the past, the old 123 Success program. I have all the material so I wouldn't need the meetings. But I'm wondering what the difference is in CC and WW?
I have about 10 pounds to loose, so I want the more aggressive program since the last 10 pounds are always the hardest. I will be exercising at home by doing a recumbent bike, and Walk Away The Pounds by Leslie Sansome. I try to eat "clean" foods.
Any help would be appreciated!!
Thanks
Cathy


Amarantha2
12-26-2008, 01:35 AM
I count calories but have also done WW and think it's a great program. It's just a personal decision.

For me, having counted calories for a long time, it's just easier as I know how many calories are in things and I have an extensive database and nutritional software in my hard drive, plus the wonderful Diet King book every year and the whole internet to look things up in if I'm in doubt, which is seldom.

To me points are just another way of counting calories like a device I have that clicks off calories in 50-cal increments for a quick approximation. I don't care about the fat and fiber calculation that WW makes (do care about fiber but not terribly worried about fat as I eat the good kind mostly). Just for my purposes, I feel calories are a more detailed and specific and accurate count.

But both systems are good, it's really just an individual choice. WW is great.

murphydoodle2
12-26-2008, 09:06 AM
I would have to agree with Janga that both are good choices. I personally prefer WW points because I can keep it in my head better. For example, 200 calories always seemed like a reasonable snack, but I would never spend 4 points on a snack. Crazy, I know! Another advantage of WW for me was that it pushed me toward healthier foods. Since you already eat clean this may not be as important to you.

Good luck with whichever you choose!


bargoo
12-26-2008, 10:04 AM
I think calorie counting works best for me. WW is a good program and I have done it . I just think Calorie counting is more reliable and something I can use long term for maintenance. And it is free!

the slim me
12-26-2008, 10:09 AM
I'm a CC too, but think that WW workes well. It's personal choice, which ever is easier for you. Just remember to choose healthy food, high fiber, good oils.

me4life
12-26-2008, 10:47 AM
right now i'm not doing it but seems for the most part i would keep track of calories but then convert to points...so if you looking for easier i find counting calories best especially if your using a site like fitday to track them

Lulu Belle
12-26-2008, 11:05 AM
I am new here and I was wondering the same thing. I think for now I am going to use WW because I have all of the materials and it is simple. I don't worry about the fats either but I do like the bonus of higher fiber foods being lower points. I do think it helps me to make better decisions.

Thighs Be Gone
12-26-2008, 11:18 AM
I like calorie counting. It's free! I do like WW recipes, however. Sometimes I Google WW 1 point recipes to get some ideas for low-calorie eating. I think WW probably has a good program but I don't totally understand the point of it. I find support here--thank you 3FC and members. I weigh myself. I am educating myself daily about food--and not JUST in regard to calories/fat.

QuilterInVA
12-26-2008, 12:38 PM
That is really and old WW program. It has changed a lot over the years. I've been a lifetime member since 1977 and highly recommend WW and attending meetings.

choirgirlhotel
12-26-2008, 02:11 PM
You could do both for a little bit. See what you like better. Since you are going to be keeping a food journal anyway, count your points and then put the calorie count beside it. Basically, WW is just counting calories anyway, just in an easier form.

~CGH~

rockinrobin
12-26-2008, 02:50 PM
I LOVE calorie counting.

It's much more logical to me then WW. Doesn't leave the door open for "free" foods. 1 point is a wide range of calories. Which would NOT work for me. When I purchase things with calorie contents on them (yogurt, veggie burgers, etc) , it gives me the calorie content, not the WW points value. For me, if I'm going to keep tally of something (foods that I eat), why not track them accurately ? It really just makes more sense to me.

rockinrobin
12-26-2008, 04:05 PM
I just wanted to add here, that I am by no means knocking WW. I know there are many people who are quite successful on their plan. But I believe that for me, calorie counting is more suitable.

cathyw
12-27-2008, 12:30 AM
Thank you everyone for your advice, and support!! This site is great!!
I think I will try writing down the calories and the points just to see how the points and calories compare. I think my problem is that I can get OCD with counting either one. Early in the day I am wanting to "save" my calories or points "Just in case" I may need them ;) Then by the end of the day I have a lot to make up for. I need to plan out my whole day before the day begins, that way I know what I will be eating and how many calories or points I will be eating during the day. It's just some days I may not feel like eating the foods I had "planned" for that day. I think it would help me to relax though.
Thanks again everyone!!!
Cathy

rockinrobin
12-27-2008, 08:01 AM
Yes, I believe planning out your day in advance is the way to go. That's what I do and have been doing for well over 2 years now.

It's just some days I may not feel like eating the foods I had "planned" for that day.

At this point, I have many different ideas/options for breakfast, lunch, dinners and snacks, all about equal calories. Easy to eat this one or that one, according to what I'm in the mood for. As you get further into the process, you will see what "works" for you and what doesn't. What foods you are satisfied with - and which ones that you aren't.

I think my problem is that I can get OCD with counting either one

As far as obsessing about calories, don't think of it in that manner. I like to think of it as that I am aware of my calories. I eat mindfully. And that I need to monitor them in order to keep to a healthy weight. Makes it seem a whole lot less "cuckoo" and downright necessary. Because I truly believe that keeping track, carefully monitoring ones food intake is essential to living a healthier and hopefully happier life. Doesn't seem so OCD when you balance your checkbook, does it? Our food intake is just as important, if not more so.

Give yourself some time for your food choices to evolve and for you to get more into the planning and healthy eating.

Ann2009
12-30-2008, 09:55 PM
Wow what good advice. I've done WW on and off (OK more off than on!!) since the 70's. It's a terrific program. I have all of the materials and am going to try this support group this time.

Life is hectic--I have trouble making it to a meeting--but weight watchers taught me portion size and how good I feel when I eat good food (I like the term "clean food").

I so glad to have found such a positive group online.

PhotoChick
12-30-2008, 10:02 PM
It's much more logical to me then WW. Doesn't leave the door open for "free" foods. 1 point is a wide range of calories. Which would NOT work for me. When I purchase things with calorie contents on them (yogurt, veggie burgers, etc) , it gives me the calorie content, not the WW points value. For me, if I'm going to keep tally of something (foods that I eat), why not track them accurately ? It really just makes more sense to me.This is exactly how I feel as well.

And at this point I've been calorie counting so long that I know what a lot of things are (or can get close). I know that my small apple is 80 cals. I know that my oatmeal in the morning is 150 cals. I know that my container of yogurt is 160 cals. Etc., etc.

I also plan my meals and snacks, but I know that if I'm not in the mood for one thing one day, I can swap it out with another day and keep track of the cals that way.

But, one thing I've found is that as my relationship with food changes, I'm less influenced by "I don't want that". Now to me food is fuel as much as anything else so there's less of "I don't want to eat what I planned to eat" because it's just about feeding my body. I just fix it and eat it because it's healthy and it does the job.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that I don't still enjoy my food - I still love food and love to cook and love to eat. And I still crave certain foods. But for me it's often less a case of "I'm not in the mood for that" as it is getting a craving for somthing and figuring out how to add it in. For example, tonight my planned dinner was around 450 cals and included some chicken that I'd already grilled and quinoa. But on the way home I realized i was craving avocado, so I made a salad with avocado and tomato and onion and cucumber instead of the quinoa and stayed w/in my 450 cal level.

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JulieJ08
12-30-2008, 10:52 PM
For example, tonight my planned dinner was around 450 cals and included some chicken that I'd already grilled and quinoa. But on the way home I realized i was craving avocado, so I made a salad with avocado and tomato and onion and cucumber instead of the quinoa and stayed w/in my 450 cal level.

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The power of suggestion ;)

PhotoChick
12-30-2008, 10:57 PM
Hahah. Totally!!!

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Billies Pottery
12-30-2008, 11:28 PM
But, one thing I've found is that as my relationship with food changes, I'm less influenced by "I don't want that". Now to me food is fuel as much as anything else so there's less of "I don't want to eat what I planned to eat" because it's just about feeding my body. I just fix it and eat it because it's healthy and it does the job.
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This is good advice.
It reminds me that i once thought of food that way. Food is for fuel. And once i got into that mindset i was able to not just conquer but stop having cravings.

Optical Goddess
12-30-2008, 11:38 PM
I've done WW on and off, and had originally lost 80 lbs with it.

I've done WW more or less for the last 5 years or so, so I have a lot of points memorized for things. It's just easier for me to keep track of...

I think both can work great, it's just a matter of what will work better in your life.

I don't per se plan out every day because it just doesn't work well, but since I eat a lot of the same foods, I can sub them like someone else said

With either cal counting or ww, I do have trouble spreading my points through out the day...I worry about running out pre-emptively.

tinypurplefishez
12-31-2008, 12:17 AM
I'm a big fan of weight watchers. I've found that having a food tracker where you write down what you eat and check off your required fruit/veggies, water, and milk throughout the day really helps me eat all of the right things. Plus, I cheat less on weight watchers because it seems like you have way less wiggle room. Eating something that knocks out a fourth of your points in one go is a huge deterrent, whereas with calorie counting, I could justify splurges because in my head I told myself I still had a thousand or so calories left.

Lori259
12-31-2008, 12:57 AM
Both is great but like as others have said calorie counting is free.
I am a calorie counter also. Weight watchers Is To me An expensive Similiar method.(I know many have success with ww ~So please do not be offended) I Just think that counting calories is personally the best way to go~For example~ what if you do not have there foods or Info with you one day? In calorie counting you learn the do's & dont's of most all foods you come in contact with Pretty promptly~And This helps not to slip up .Meaning That calorie counting better helps prepare us for everyday foods we come in contact with.I know weight watchers helps with food also but Most I know that lost weight with ww used there products also & was clueless when they was Not around there products.(PLEASE ww People do not get mad at me~I have friends who have lost great with it~it just is personally not for me.)I just think cc is best way to go but hey ww may work great for you so Like someone stated before maybe try both and see which works better for you..GOOD LUCK

sweetlovin
12-31-2008, 12:49 PM
I just think calorie counting is easier because most foods you buy in the grocer have calories on the back of the packaging. If you buy fruits and vegetables, you can go online and find the calories in it. They have a ton of websites based on counting calories in thousands of foods and restaurants. Even in New York, stores and restaurants are now required to list the amount of calories they have in there meals

It just seems to me that everywhere we go, things are geared towards people who count calories so it seems easier that you would use that tool because it's basically everywhere

The only thing I would like about weight watchers is the meetings and weigh-ins. I just think that is such a huge motivator. The program, in my opinion really isn't that big of a deal since it's so similar to counting calories. I wish there was a place like weight watchers but you could follow any plan you want. Just come in, get weighed, and get tips & support from everyone.