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cadilynnro
11-22-2008, 05:21 PM
I am 235lbs. I want to lose 80 lbs. I see some people have lost great amounts of weight. How the **** did they do it? Please tell me your working diets. I don't want to waste my money on fad diets. I am 20 years old & 5'6, if they helps somehow. I don't want to try a failing diet. I want to be on the diet all you successful people are on. :)

List them please!!


PhotoChick
11-22-2008, 05:40 PM
I don't diet.

Not only that - I don't believe in "diets". I hate the very idea of diets. I hate the concept that you can "start" eating some way and lose weight and then "stop" eating that way and expect it to all be magically ok. I hate the idea that you have to restrict yourself to be on a "diet" and that you have to suffer. I hate the idea that if you eat something you want you've "cheated" or you've "failed" or you've "fallen off the wagon".

A diet is something that ends and then you go back to your old way of life and gain weight again.

I'm also of the belief that if you deprive yourself of the things you want and the things you love, then you're setting yourself up for failure. Because eventually you're going to FEEL deprived, and then you're going to give up and say "to **** with it".

The only thing that really works, long term, is to make a permanent change in your life - to the way you eat, the way you exercise, and your entire mindset/outlook on your health. Anything else is just, IMO, a temporary fix and will collapse as soon as you go "off" your diet.

For me that means calorie counting, eating whole foods and avoiding processed foods as much as possible, and exercise. I try to stay within a range of calories (1500 +/-). I eat whole foods and natural foods. I avoid packaged and processed foods as much as possible. I try to exercise every day - although only maybe 4-5 days a week is actually going to the gym and exercising. Other days I try to exercise at home or by getting out and being active.

Even more: I am not forbidden to eat anything. I eat for life. And in my life there are going to be french fries. There are going to be dinners at the Mexican restaurant with chips and queso. There are going to be birthday cakes. There are going to be office events with bagels and donuts and muffins. That's life.

That means that I look at the calories I've consumed for the day and I see if I can have a brownie. If I can, I do. Or even 1/2 a brownie. And I enjoy it. If I can't have one tonight, I make room in my calories for one tomorrow - maybe for a morning snack. And then I have something to look forward to. Really, one brownie? One brownie is about 180 calories. Most people can fit that in as a snack if they really really really want it.

I honestly and truly believe that diets don't work. What works is creating a lifestyle that's conducive to being healthy and active. I have made significant changes in my life over the last 2 years; in what I eat, in the way I eat, in the amount of exercise I get. And there is nothing in my mind that says "I'm on a diet" ... because I'm not. I'm just eating what I eat.

And doing so has allowed me to lose 75 pounds and keep it off for nearly 2 years now.

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CountingDown
11-22-2008, 05:47 PM
Well, I didn't "diet". I changed my lifestyle.
First, I started logging everything I ate in Fitday.
Then, I set some calorie goals and began calorie counting.
Then, I set some nutritional goals, started eating cleaner (more whole foods, less processed stuff - balanced my carbs/protein/fat - which was way less carbs - more protein and fats)
Then I added some exercise.
I tweaked the plan along the way - found out that I do better eating 6 small meals a day - rather than 3 big ones. I added in more water and gave up diet soda.

All the chickies that seem to do well, have all tweaked a plan to work for them. Each one is doing things that fit their body and lifestyle.

You can do this! But, it will probably take some adjustments along the way.

I do vouch for calorie counting! It is something that you can do forever (maintenance just as important as losing).

:)


CountingDown
11-22-2008, 05:48 PM
LOL - I was posting while photochick was. As you can see, we are both avid calorie counters!
Great post PC!!!

PhotoChick
11-22-2008, 05:49 PM
Hee hee! We seem to be sharing a brain today! :)

I think I've posted the same thing about dozen times this week. I finally pulled all my old posts saying the same thing and I'm going to put them on my blog this week.

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cadilynnro
11-22-2008, 05:55 PM
How do you make these changes though? Is everyone capable of losing weight or are some people born to be fat? I started the calorie counter thing. I just can't see myself quit eating mcdonalds and eat healthy things instead...It's going to be a huge change...I'm just worried about not going through with it. I doubt myself.

Also, anyone reconmend a good scale?

thinkerbell
11-22-2008, 05:55 PM
Dear Photochick,

Thank you, thank U, Thank you! I love what you wrote and I am going to copy and paste your words...priceless! I want to be able to write those words in two years, including the 75 lb part! You expressed so clearly and succintly what I desire for myself!

Beautiful....Be-You-To-Full!

I am so grateful I found this forum and all the people here walking their talk!


Best wishes,
thinkerbell

CountingDown
11-22-2008, 06:10 PM
cadilynnro - no one can make the changes except you. How do you change your diet?
One step at a time.
First, start logging everything you eat. That alone is a biggie. If fast food is a trigger for you, set a small goal. Something you can do. Then, improve upon that goal once you meet it.

I do not think anyone was meant to be fat. If you read my goal story (linked in my signature), you will see that my father died at 400+ lbs. For many years, I used my genetic pre-disposition to "fatness" as an excuse. Truth be told - no one made me fat, but me. I put each and every bite of food into my mouth. No one else. I chose to veg on my computer instead of exercise. I at the wrong foods - and I knew what I was doing, I just didn't care enough to change.

You have to want to change. Then you have to develop a plan, and stick to it. It WILL require you to give up some things that you do now. It WILL require you to do some things you probably aren't thrilled about doing.

The question is - how much do you want to change? If you want to be thinner and healthier - you can. It is totally up to you.

Start small - right now - make a change or two. Build on that change. Set a goal, and hold yourself accountable.

You can do this! Really!

PhotoChick
11-22-2008, 06:12 PM
Thinkerbell - Thank you! :) You really put a smile on my face this evening.

Cadilynn - How do you make these changes? The honest truth is that you just DO. You make the commitment to change.

I don't believe that anyone is "born to be fat". Yes, there are people who have gained weight because of medical reasons, because of treatments, because their bodies are just out of whack in that way, but I truly believe that those people are the extreme minority. I truly think that for 99% of the people out there, being "born to be fat" is an excuse that they make to themselves to avoid making changes to their lives that they're not ready to make.

can't see myself quit eating mcdonalds and eat healthy things insteadHow about eating healthy things AND eating McDonalds? How about making a commitment to eating healthy 5 days a week and allowing yourself McDonald's on the weekend? Can you do that?

But you know what - truth is that after I started eating healthy and watching my calories and working out, I realized that I don't really WANT McDonald's any more. Maybe you'll get to that point and maybe you won't. But you won't know until you try.

I'll tell you another thing that I say on here a lot: You have got to change your vocabulary.

I can't.
I won't.
It's too hard.
I doubt.

Already you're giving yourself an excuse to fail. Because in 2 or 3 weeks you can go back to these words and tell yourself "I knew it would be too hard. I knew I couldn't do it. I'm right. I'm just a failure and I'll always be fat." You've got a built in excuse to fail.

Stop saying those things.

Until you can say:
I can do this.
I'm capable of eating healthy foods in reasonable quantities.
I'm capable of learning what's healthy and what's not.
I will do this.
It might be hard at first, but I'll learn and it'll become easier.

Then you're not going to succeed. It's all about YOU and your commitment. Be committed. You can do it. We all have here. We've all move from "It's too hard." to "I'm going to do this!"

You can too.

.

cfmama
11-22-2008, 06:13 PM
I`m with Photochick.

I don`t diet.

I count calories, eat clean, move my body and drink my water. I eat only good healthy fats and if I REALLY want something I either make room for it today or make room for it tomorrow (at which time I usually find out I didn`t really want it anyways.)

Good luck!

PhotoChick
11-22-2008, 06:16 PM
make room for it tomorrow (at which time I usually find out I didn`t really want it anyways.)Ain't that the truth! :)

Sometimes I think I want something ... and I promise myself that if I still want it after I eat an apple, I can have it. Funny enough, after the apple, I don't really want it any more. :)

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cadilynnro
11-22-2008, 06:23 PM
Thanks guys. I work at Wendys and everything is so tempting. Lol. I'm gonna visit my boyfriend's house less (where all the snacks are).

How many pounds have you guys lost where people see the difference? I lost 10 pounds before by not eating, and I thought I saw a difference, but no one else did.

I'll give this a shot. Once I have money, I'm gonna go to the gym. I have to go to work now. Thanks guys for your input, tips, and encouragement.
Ain't that the truth! :)

Sometimes I think I want something ... and I promise myself that if I still want it after I eat an apple, I can have it. Funny enough, after the apple, I don't really want it any more. :)

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That's a good idea. :)

rockinrobin
11-22-2008, 07:09 PM
Hey there. I just finished answering your post on the Goal section. Take a look.

Anyway, count me in as another one who's not on a "diet". Yup, diets begin and then end. You stop them and then go back to your normal and then pile back on all the weight that you've lost. What I'm "on" is going to continue - forever and ever. Because that's how long I'd like to stay at a healthy weight for. I've made sustainable changes that will G-d willing last me a lifetime.

I no longer am a person who eats whatever she wants when she wants. I no longer WANT TO BE that person. Eating what I wanted to and when I wanted to made me morbidly obese. And really eating all that food never ever made me happy anyway. NEVER.

And I too am a calorie counter. It's the only thing that sets limits for me. It hold me accountable. Intuitive eating or listening to my body never, ever works. My body tells me to eat - and eat - and eat some more. Which is why "watching myself" never worked either. I need FORCED limits and boundaries and that's what calorie counting does for me.

I didn't believe it was possible to live without high calorie/high quantity food either. Until the day when I got fed up enough and so sick and tired of being fat and realized that I didn't have to be fat if I didn't want to be. That it was indeed something I have control over. Granted though, the control will never fall in your lap. YOU MUST TAKE CONTROL. And it did mean giving up some things. Very strict in the beginning. Sure I loved ice cream, cake, fried foods and the such, but I didn't LOVE what it did for me. And I finally realized that I could not have it both ways. Those "things" are meant to be eaten once in a while. A rarity.

As for the deprived feeling. Never happened to me. What I was doing when I was eating all those things and became morbidly obese. THAT was depriving myself. Of the best me that I could possibly be. Of the life that I was intended to have. I knew each and every time I said "no" to one of "those" foods, I was saying YES to me. And I would be one step closer to fufilling my dreams of being a fit, healthy and trim person. My desire to be thin and trim OUTWEIGHED the desire for the food.

And then, lo and behold - your tastes change. And you barely want the junk anymore. You actually CRAVE the "good stuff". Who knew?

I urge you to make a plan, as eating healthy does not happen by chance. It most definitely has to be planned out in advance, BEFOREHAND. This way you're not hungry and faced with a decision to make that could thwart your goals. Do some shopping, buy some healthy foods. Rid your home of the junk. Do some web searching and find healthy, nutritious DELICIOUS foods to make.

And by the way, til you get to the gym. Start walking. Take a walk. Even 15 minutes to start and slowly build up. Buy yourself an inexpensive resistance band for strength training.

And it may take time for people or yourself to notice the difference. But so what. STICK to your plan. Time moves rather quickly. STICK with that plan and before you know it the weight will come off. It won't come off overnight. But it most definitely WILL come off. Losing weight is a doable thing and anyone and everyone can indeed do it. Be persistent and be consistient.

CountingDown
11-22-2008, 07:42 PM
Robin is right. Your tastes do change!
I used to abhor veggies -went months without eating them. Now, I crave them - yup - the way I used to crave sweets. I am more likely to "HAVE" to go to the grocery store for fresh veggies than for any other food. They are something I feel deprived if I can't have.
Who woullda thunk it - ME - a veggie lover?

cfmama
11-23-2008, 01:13 AM
Which is why "watching myself" never worked either. I need FORCED limits and boundaries and that's what calorie counting does for me.

I didn't believe it was possible to live without high calorie/high quantity food either. Until the day when I got fed up enough and so sick and tired of being fat and realized that I didn't have to be fat if I didn't want to be. That it was indeed something I have control over. Granted though, the control will never fall in your lap. YOU MUST TAKE CONTROL. And it did mean giving up some things. Very strict in the beginning. Sure I loved ice cream, cake, fried foods and the such, but I didn't LOVE what it did for me. And I finally realized that I could not have it both ways. Those "things" are meant to be eaten once in a while. A rarity.

As for the deprived feeling. Never happened to me. What I was doing when I was eating all those things and became morbidly obese. THAT was depriving myself. Of the best me that I could possibly be. Of the life that I was intended to have. I knew each and every time I said "no" to one of "those" foods, I was saying YES to me. And I would be one step closer to fufilling my dreams of being a fit, healthy and trim person. My desire to be thin and trim OUTWEIGHED the desire for the food.



I could have written ALL of the above. I still am very strict with my foods. I plan my 1800 calorie menu the night before, I stick to it ALL the next day. I never feel deprived. I encorporate my very favorite (now) foods into my plan. Salmon, cheese, nuts, mandarin oranges. THESE are my candy. THESE are my sinful delights.

I like to say that my desire to be thin, healthy and ALIVE outweighs (lol) my desire to eat chips, candy, McDonalds.

cadilynnro
11-23-2008, 02:35 AM
Thanks guys for your support. Right after I joined this message board, I started to eat healthier. I do feel hungry & have cravings, but I'm at my house and there are no snack foods. lol Today I had lemonade instead of root beer at work. I shall count my calories. I like that website, it really helps me.

rockinrobin
11-23-2008, 06:35 AM
Thanks guys for your support. Right after I joined this message board, I started to eat healthier. I do feel hungry & have cravings, but I'm at my house and there are no snack foods. lol Today I had lemonade instead of root beer at work. I shall count my calories. I like that website, it really helps me.

I'm so glad you haven't wasted another momemt and got right to the healthy eating!!!

I will tell you the first two weeks for me were very, VERY difficult. Actually, it wasn't even a full 2 weeks if I recall correctly. It was more like 10 days. I was craving big time. But like any "addict" there is a drying out period. But once that period is over, it gets much easier. MUCH. Though those 10 days were difficult, it didn't matter any more. I had made the decision to lose the weight and that was that. Enough already. I HAD MADE A COMMITMENT. I knew it would pass and I knew it would be worth it. And besides they were no more difficult then being overweight. Not even close. And I knew this difficult would actually benefit me and get me somewhere.

Not to be a killjoy, but depending on which website you go by, lemonade has between 100 - 130 calories for 8 ozs. Unless of course it was sugar free.

You really, really have to be careful of EVERY thing that goes in your mouth. It may seem a pain at first, but it's just in the beginning til you get used to it and get everything down pat. And remember, even if it's a bit of a pain to start with, it's waaaaay less of a pain then being overweight. And there's no way around it. Our bodies are keeping an accurate journal and counting everything, even if we're not, so we might as well.

I'm excited for you as you begin on this incredible journey. I had a fabulous, fabulous time losing the weight and I knew you will too. :hug:

Bobbolink
11-23-2008, 07:58 AM
Hi 5 foot nuthin' Robin, long time no see! YOU MUST TAKE CONTROL. And it did mean giving up some things. Very strict in the beginning. Sure I loved ice cream, cake, fried foods and the such, but I didn't LOVE what it did for me. And I finally realized that I could not have it both ways. Those "things" are meant to be eaten once in a while. A rarity.
I 100% agree with you about those "things" are meant to be eaten once in a while. That's what got all of us here in the first place, high calorie foods. Cadilynn... I don't/didn't keep tempting foods in my home and I haven't been to a fast food place in eons. Logic always wins, why go to all the trouble of counting calories (very, very important), exercising, etc. and then blow it on McDonald's french fries? One thing I have to add to all the excellent advice from our 3ff friends is FIBER. Keep your fiber grams up, it's the main reason I lost 30 lbs. I am still keeping my fiber up, it keeps me full and the plumbing running smoothly:rofl:
Good luck on your new journey!

rockinrobin
11-23-2008, 08:21 AM
Bobbolink!!!! Hi there friend. How've you been? Judging from your avatar - quite well. You look beautiful.

And how could I have forgotten - FIBER. Weight - loss - power - house. ! ! ! That's why those veggies are SO important - so nutritious, so low calorie, so delicious when you learn how and what to do with them and oh so FILLING. Oh and oh so regulating too. ;)

cadilynnro
11-23-2008, 11:08 PM
Ugh. I got the flu today, so I can't even keep anything down, not even water. :(
The lemonade I was drinking had 5 calories per 8oz. :) But today it doesnt matter what I ate, even though I ate good, cause it all came up. lol Hopefully this is only the 24hr flu. :(

rockinrobin
11-24-2008, 06:17 AM
All right-y then about the lemonade! And nevermind the whole drawn out speech. ;)

So sorry to hear that you are sick. I hope you recover quickly. Doesn't sound like fun. Make sure to drink lots of fluids and rest up. All the best. :hug:

bonniethegreenbuilde
11-24-2008, 11:36 AM
I absolutely agree with everyone in here, even though I'm not quite there yet. And if you are looking for a plan that is going to help you get the point where you feel the same way as the rest of the posters in this thread, weight watchers is a great way to go. It's the same concept as "fitting" a brownie into your calorie intake for the day. You count points and if you have enought points missing in the day to fit a brownie in, then you're more than welcome too. Plus you go to meetings everyweek where people just like you, trying to not only lose weight but change their lives for good this time, help and encourage you to achieve your goals. I hope that actually answered your original question, lol.

cadilynnro
11-24-2008, 03:48 PM
I went to the WW website, that is too expensive for me. lol

rodeogirl
11-26-2008, 12:48 AM
You can put me down as a calorie counter too. What everyone said above pretty much covers anything I would have said.

I started one thing at a time. First I started eating only when I was hungry and only about 1 cup of food at a time. (Which isn't a lot of volume, when you're used to restaurant portions, heh!) After a couple weeks of retraining myself what a reasonable portion size was I started trying to eat more whole foods and less pre-packaged/processed stuff. After a week or so of that I found 3FC and started using The Daily Plate to track what I ate - which pretty much instantly led me to plug my height/weight/goals in and get a recommended calorie count for the day and I've been calorie counting ever since.

I love it!

Shannon in ATL
11-26-2008, 11:10 AM
Hi cadilynnro -
I've been sick this week myself, so I just read this thread. I noticed in one of your earlier posts that you work at Wendy's and wanted to comment on that, as I worked for a Burger King franchisee for 13 years and now work at another quick service restaurant...

When I was earlier in my career I was in the restaurant every single day, on my feet pretty much all the time. I never had time for breaks, so I often kept a sandwich or some fries or hash browns or something open on the counter in the office and would run by and grab a bite here and there all day long. In looking back, I ate constantly. I wasn't calorie counting at the time so I have no idea how much I ate that way. A likely conservative estimate done this morning shows that I probably ate in the neighborhood of 3500 calories on some longer work days. The only reason I didn't gain significantly more weight than I did was the fact that I was active on my feet all day. As I started going between stores I did the same thing, just ate in my car instead of on the fly, and I sat down more. Gained more weight then because my activity level dropped. I tried to make some changes then, andl ooking back on then from today's perspective I have even more survival in the fast food world thoughts. (I still work in the restaurants biz, my office is upstairs now. That makes it a lot easier.)

1.) Buy a big plastic drinking bottle, like the Nalgene maybe, and keep it filled up all day with that great filtered water you can get off the noncarbonated drinks on the drink station. The lemonade you drank was the Diet Minute Maid, right? Not too bad, but water would be better for you, even if it was only half the time. And like you have already said, don't give in to the soda temptation! :)

2) Wendy's has a lot of build items for great salads - if you get a break to eat customize your own salad instead of the standard builds and leave out some of the higher cal items like the noodles and stuff. I see on the website that the ancillary items are what drive the calorie count on your salads. I don't love the dressing choices from Wendy's at this point, I often buy the salad and put my own dressing on it at home. Don't be afraid to bring a bottle of dressing and put it in the crew food section of the walk-in, if they allow you to do that in your location.

3) I used to make up baggies with snack items (carrots, sliced pepper, almonds) in the restaurants and I would label them with the daypart I wanted to consume them in. When I wanted to grab a handful of fries and run out the back door for a minute I could grab a baggie of nuts or something. Make sure you keep track of the calorie counts on those, I realize now I ate way too many nuts and not enough carrots! :)

4) Yogurt cups used to work really well for me in the restaurant - I would get the chocolate flavored ones for when I desperately wanted a milkshake after a crazy day. Small portion, easy to eat fast.

4) Calorie counting is easier for you at work than for most people, because you have total control over what you consume and a website with nutritional data to look it. I used to eat burger patties and grilled chicken patties with no bread a lot - I didn't eat salad at the time. If I could go back and do it again I would eat more chicken salad, less everything else.

5) Vitamins vitamins vitamins. :) Take a good multivitamin. You have a pretty physically demanding job, so make sure you get all of your nutrients in.


Good luck!:hug: