WW Clubs and Groups - Night Owls #41

Hi Everyone,

The last thread was getting soooooooooo long. I have been missing in action. I just rejoined ww last week so we will see how it goes. I am so close I can taste it but I can't seem to get on track. Will try to catch up on the posts when I can but I just wanted to say hi.

Bren

Hi Everyone!!!!

I haven't been here in years!!! I've missed you guys. I got on and saw your picture Brenda...you look great...you're blonde. ME TOO!!!

I can't remember what my screen name was or password so I re-registered...I am Gale from Ellsworth Maine. Lots on new things in my life. One of them was a move to Turner Maine.

Things are going well...just not with my weight. Brenda..you are almost there..way to go!!! I rejoined WW about 2 months ago and was doing well..then I don't know what happened. I need to get back..at an all time high...170! Hit the 40's two years ago and it's been really hard.

I am going to try to catch up on everyone...I've missed you all...you were all sooo helpful before.

talk later...Gale:sheep: I just love these new little icons!!!!:)

Hi everyone,

I tried to go back and read the last thread to see what's been happening around here. I hope I don't miss anyone.

Oh my Gosh Gale,

It is soooooooooo good to hear from you. I am in Massachusetts now, I moved from Gouldsboro, ME to Machias Me for awhile and then I came home to be around my family. You went blonde too huh? How cool. I can't wait to catch up. I am not here much, not handling being a single mom, working full-time. I have not held a real job in 17 years or so and I am not an organized person but it is going as well as can be expected. Anyway, I get here when I can because I know I can count on my owl buddies.

Setina, how's things going with the house? It looks real nice.

Judygal, thanks for sharing that signature sight with us, I plan to check it out. How's it going?

PJ, so glad to see you all hooked up and ready to surf again. I have missed you.

Candie, I missed your birthday, sooo sorry! Well a great big belated

Happy Birthday to you. I hope you are doing well.

Emmy, I think I saw a post from you, welcome back we have missed you.

Tara, as always it is so nice to see you posting. You have really been the backbone of this forum on many occasions.

Meshell, how are you and the kids doing? Do you still homeschool?

Hello to anyone I have missed. So good to see you all still here. It is so nice to know that even after missing in action for so long I can come back here and see that my friends are still around.

Brenda

We have had a terrible ladybug problem in the house! Now it is spider time, I hate them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got another flowerbed ready for planting but the weather is not good enough to put anything in yet, had a hail storm tonight!

Got to the doc Thursday and my biopsie was negative, always a relief but I have to try the new Nexium pills for my esohpagus the protonix was causing bloating. I just hate any kind of meds, nothing seems to be without side effects!

Sounds like you all are keeping busy.....I'm still op but got into the m&m almonds!

Dh got oil all over his good clothes (and coat) and I have been washing them over and over again..I think I finnally got it out!

I got some new Birkensotcks, really ugly shoes ( a black tie) and I think something is wrong with the footbed in the right shoe cause it feels like something is in the shoe..like a high spot..so I need to take them back I guess( they are so expensive if I'm not gonna wear them). They don't have anything else I can wear right now..spent 2 hours there deciding on these! I have a lot of foot pain so I can't wear just any old shoe!

Candice, I've been on the nexium for 4 months and there is no weight gain so far. I'm glad the biopsy came back fine.

I'm courting a nasty sinus infection and wish I had sick days left but I don't, so I'll go to school tomorrow, although I shouldn't. I'm crashing this weekend. Hi everyone.

Hi there,

Judygal,
Hope you feel better soon.

Candice, so glad the biopsy was negative, you must be so releived, that is so scary. I absolutely hate spiders, they are right up there with ticks, Yuck. speaking of which, I found a tick on my kitchen floor yesterday, Yikes!!

cool it worked.

Thanks for directing me to that delphi site.

Bren

Hi, Brenda! Yes, I am still homeschooling. The children are just finishing up 4th and 6th grades. They are pretty much done for the year since we didn't take a summer break last year. In fact, this will be the first year we have a summer vacation. They haven't wanted to take any time away from school, but with Amanda going into 7th grade (and much harder work), I am insisting on a summer break this year....I need a little extra time to prepare lesson plans for the upcoming year. We will re-start in August.

My doctor is sending me to a pain management specialist for my fibro. My first appointment is May 6th. My husband will have to get off work early to take me to the appointment. The pain management specialist is about 2 hours away, and I can't drive that far without severe panic attacks. I didn't have trouble with panic attacks until about a year after I was diagnosed with fibro. I am really nervous about seeing a new doctor, too.

Well, we are in the middle of a major storm here....I think I heard on TV that there is a tornado warning, so I am going to sign off for now.

Meshell

Thanks Judy..took my first nexium today..so far so good! I have not made it delphi yet but I did some in my Paint shop pro;)

HI Bren..Yuck is right I hate ticks too!

Meshell..Ididn't know you had panic attacks..my anxiety is bad but never has cause one of those. But some days I cannot get the anxiety undercontrol..keeping busy (getting my mind off it) is the only thing that I can do breathing does not help me! Storms make me terribly anxious! :( :mad: :(

Do you all wear Birkenstocks?????????? That is the only shoe I can wear most days and that is as dressy as it gets! I cannot wear dress shoes at all. I have my New Balance cross training shoes and some SAS Freetime walking shoes (that I wear my orthotics in from the foot doc) but I like the Birks best. I'm sitting here now with the new Birks on trying to decide if I need to take them back. I have so much foot pain that I have to be very selective with my choices and just trying them on in the store is not enough time to tell. I know you cannot wear them outside and return them but he said I could wear them around the house but it takes time to break them in! They are called Princeton and black leather and very ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They fit my narrow foot well except for the left big toe barely touching the tip and the right footbed feeling like it is too high in one spot. I keep thinking they will break in and I will not notice these things. I just don't want to cause more foot pain by wearing the wrong shoes! They were 150.00 on sale for 120.00............I have two pair of Birk clogs (navy and green suede) that are too big right now due to my weight loss so need to take those in and see if they can do anything and I have a white sandel with a wrap around strap and a black slip on sandel and my favorite a tan suede Arizona sandel. ( I wear these all the time and they still look good) over ten years old! Dh thinks these are ulgly and I should get one with a strap but they didn't have that in my size and the guy told me they would not fit my narrow foot anyway. Ya think he was just trying to sell me this pair?????????????????

I know too much yacking.......I'm trying to reason this out!

This is for PJ.................

Meshell,
You seem to be your usually busy self:p wow, I homeschooled for a year and it almost did me in, LOL Give yourself a big pat on the back, you are awesome. I definitely think you should take the summer off, everyone needs to just relax and enjoy life a bit.

Candice, I don't even know what Birkenstocks are, LOL! I am sorry you have so much foot pain. Yikes, our feet are alway in use so I just can't imagine having to go through what you go through.

Where is everyone else? Come out and play.

Brenda

I haven't bought any Birkenstocks yet because of the price. A lot of people with fibro say that they are the only type of shoes they can wear. Around the house, I just wear socks or bedroom shoes. I have a pair of black flats that I can wear most of the time when I go out in public. However, when the foot pain is just too much, I am not ashamed to show up at church in my bedroom shoes. People who know me understand my condition, and I am just thankful to be able to walk again....about a year ago, I was in a wheelchair most of the time. Candice, let me know if the shoes make a big difference....I am afraid to spend that much on shoes I may not be able to wear.

Meshell

Meshell..my foot doc recomened them cause I was having shots in my feet all the time for the pain and wearing Nike all the time. I wanted something a little dressier with support and these give me that. Some people just cannot wear them, they are not designed for their foot but if they feel good to you at first they will get more comfy as your foot embeds its own print in them. They are the only shoes besides tennis shoes that I can wear and I cannot go bare foot due to the pain on the hard surface so I wear these all the time. Do you have a wide foot or a narrow foot cause they are great for wide feet! I am narrow and have to ahve the strapes tightened. They are also good for feet that swell..which my do! You do however need to get fitted at a store that knows something for your first good fit! Then you can buy wherever. Hope this helps some. I know Tara ordered a pair off the net I think and didn't like them, she was not sure if they fit right I think????????????

Well I called the shoe store and my son will take them back tomorrow and we will see if they can be fixed or they said they would order new ones or issue a credit. Curious as to how it will play out. They just did not feel right and I gave them plenty of time.

Got a tad bit of yard work done and pansies potted before the big rain>>>>>>>>>>>>>but my left leg hurts all the way from my hip to the bottom of my foot when I do alot of bending or sitting and leaning forward.

Did you all watch that movie "Living with the dead" James Van Prague story.........my son says that is talking to evil spirits they are the opnly ones who can communicate........I'm not sure about that one!

Hi Everyone,

I did it...went back to WW tonight. Here I go AGAIN!!! The leader was very good and really inspired me!!! I need to do this...I just hate the way I look. :s:

Meshell, you said you were having storms..where do you live? My daughter lives in Maryland and told me they had a terrible storm there just the other day. They make me anxious too!!!

Brenda, how do you do the wonderful attachments? Brenda..there is so much to catch up on!! Anyone special in your life?? How old are your kids now? I'm so glad you're near your family...I am sure they are a help. My kids have left the nest..Jill in Maryland and Andy in college at U. ME at orono. I miss them and I can honestly say the weight gain has been the stress from empty nest. I have had such a struggle with it. It is just starting to get better. (Jill moved to Maryland the same year that Andy went off to college and we moved to Turner and my hubby and I both started new jobs...wheewww!!)

Well everyone ...wish me luck. I can lose this weight!!!

Good night all..Gale:D

Hi Everyone,

I just got back from my first town meeting. They just built a new highschool for 25 million dollars with an atrium and everything. Now we are considered a small town of 12,000 residents and now they want another 15 million for the highschool, can you believe it? I mean who needs an atrium in a highschool? And ofcourse all this to be paid for by raising taxes. The old highschool is fine and will now be the junior highschool. I was just flabbergasted by the ammount of money then want.

Candice, actually I missed the movie but wanted to see it. How was it? Hope your leg feels better.

Meshell, I am so happy for you, you have come so far. I hope your health will continue to improve.

Where is everyone?
? PJ, Tara, Setina, Judygal, Emmy and everyone else? Come out and say hi.

Wow, we must have been posting at the same time, LOL!! Yes, I am dating a man named Steve for about 4 months now. We went to NYC a couple weeks ago and had fun. We went snowboarding many times this winter and had a blast, he is teaching me. He is a supervisor in the machine shop in my company, which is www.davidclark.com if you want to check it out. Big layoffs expected on Fri though, so I hope I still have a job next week. I have worked there since Sept 23, 2000. The people I work with are very nice. I started out as an accounting clerk then moved up to administrative assistant in the executive offices.

Brianna is 9 now, Kayleen will be 8 July 14th and Janessa is 18.5 and living in Va with her dad. Oh yeah she is about 5 months pregnant, can you picture me a grammy, LOL??

I have done well with ww and am down to 158 but presently on the gain. I got down to about 154, I just can't seem to get back on it.

to get a sig go to www.delphiforums.com and register, then find the creative forums and just ask for someone to do one for you, it is free and everyone there is very helpful. I can't remember who directed us there but I am thinking Candice.

Anyway, I have talked your ear off long enough. Talk to you more soon.

Bren

Hi there girls! Wow, you've all been busy and Candice and Meshell.....I'm right there with you as for the Fibro pain. Hey! Let's just take it one day at a time and leave the rest up to the big guy upstairs. "God only knows" why we have this "thing" called Fibro but I also know that things could be much worse....although there are those days when I truly believe it couldn't possibley be any more painful! :(
I spent the entire day in the ER yesterday. Had an ingrown toenail that if anyone so much as BREATHED on it.....it hurt. I should never have let it go so long. I had an appt. with my podiatrist next week but just could not wait that long. I'm talking INFLAMED, SWOLLEN AND RED! I don't know how many of you have ever had "the shot" they give you in your toe to numb it up but let me tell you......."it's a DOOOOSY"!!!!!! AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!! I must have terrified everyone in the ER with my screaming. It's a 30 second (atleast!) long shot and THEN.....as he was cutting off the toenail....I could still feel it so he had to keep giving me more shots as he kept cutting down. (are any of you nautious yet???? Heh-heh):p I couldn't believe how SHARP the stupid thing was. The doctor put it in a test tube for me to save.....eeeewwwwwww, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? LOL.....anyway, I thought it was a pretty good idea since my daughter, Jackie...cuts her toenails too short and I wanted her to see what happens. So, here I am....with the keyboard on my lap and my feet up on the computer desk as usual........only my BIG TOE on my left foot it staring back at me.......<grin>

Candice - Thanks so much for the beautiful Pamela Jo Siggy. I went to the sight but haven't asked them yet for a signature. I have Photo shop and think I might try doing something on there. I LOOOVE what you did though, thanks a bunch.

Brenda - Hey Granny!!!!!! Heh-heh:D Is she finally taking care of herself? and is she under a doctors supervision? I sure hope so. I know it's hard for you to deal with her but I also know (as I'm sure you must as well) that she's going to be knocking on your door/calling you on the phone...night and day. She's going to need your help and who else but Mom to do it. Who knows, maybe this will make her more responsible and hopefully bring the two of you a little bit close. It's amazing what a baby can do to people. Let's hope this child is a "good thing" for your daughter. No matter how you look at it, this baby is a blessing and I hope she realizes it when she finally gives birth. Remember when you look at your baby for the first time....right after they're born? It's the most amazing feeling.....as though they've been right there with you forever and yet......they're brand new! I really wish you ALL much happiness and nothing but wonderful moments with this baby. Aaaaaand, you KNOW I'm going to crucify you with the "Granny" jokes. :lol:

Judy - Summer's almost here darlin!!!!!!! Hang in there. And when can I come for a visit? <grin> Hope to "hear" from you soon.

O.K. guys, I've got to get some sleep.....or atleast take a shower and climb under the covers for some "rest". We've been in the 90's the past couple of days and I've been doing my "stable work" at night or early morning. Oh yes......by the way! I'm the snake slayer again. Found a CORAL SNAKE in my pool today. The good news is ....it's was only a baby. The BAD news is that......this means MAMA is somewhere with alot of other little ones nearby! Time to get the mothballs out and spread them all around the base of the house outside. That seems to be the ONLY thing that keeps them away. We'll see. Ewwwww, spiders and snakes.....I don't like 'em!

Sweet dreams everyone......
~Pamela~

PJ, how am I supposed to sleep after reading that post? LOL! It is 2am here, and I am suffering my usual fibro-induced insomnia. I knew I should have taken my sleep meds! How will I ever get to sleep with thoughts of needles and snakes running through my mind?

Our dog had 5 gorgeous puppies yesterday. We had planned to keep one puppy and give away the rest. Well, after my husband saw the puppies, he decided we are keeping ALL of them! We already had 3 dogs, 2 cats, and a bird!!!! All I can say is that he had better put up a really big fence really quickly if he wants all those dogs around here! (But they are REALLY cute. They were born under my bed and I have to keep going in there to get them out of corners, etc. that the mommy can't reach before the cries wake up my husband, who has to get up for work in an hour.)

Gale, I live in SC. We have been having thunderstorms and even a tornado or two.

Meshell

Hi gals,

Well we were scheduled to have our first softball game this morning at 10am. The other team didn' t show up and we found out there was a scheduling screw up so we just practiced and we really had a blast. Our team are 8 & 9 year olds, with one 7yo(Kayleen) I am assistant coach and think it will be fun. Then I dropped the girls off at my sister's house for my niece's b-day party and went to Sears to buy some new suits. My old ones are just hanging on me and make me look sloppy. My old ones were size 12 and the new ones are size 8, Yippee! I got a real cute pair of shoes too.

Well, I survived the lay-off Friday and still have a job. I am very lucky because I handle all the trade shows for our product managers and I am the only one who does it so my job is fairly safe. I have only been there 19 months and friday they laid off 20 people, one who was there for 53 years, and they hit upper management too, big surprise. So anyway, I feel lucky for now but I don't believe our company is gonna make it. Sept 11th killed us because we deal with government and fire dept's, communications but mostly aviation and things just arn't doing well in the category.

Meshell, wow you are so lucky, puppies are so adorable. I wish I could come over there and just cuddle them up. Hope you got some sleep last night.

PJ, so good to hear from you. No Janessa is really not doing well and it is really stressing me out. No doctor yet and she went to oklahoma city with her boyfriend to meet his family and her and his mother had a war. we got a call 2 nights ago, in the middle of the night. Jeff's mother smashed J's face into the car door and may have broken her nose. The police came and helped her, they wanted her to stay and press charges but she just wanted to go back to Virginia (good move) They police paid to get her bus ticket changed over and put her right on the bus to Virginia, thank god they helped her. so basically she got on the bus covered in blood and didn't go back to the house for her things. So no money, no clothes to change into etc.... We wired her $50 and we know she picked it up enroute so atleast she can eat. So anyway, just another chapter in the saga. I am worried sick and hope she is allright. I called the police in oklahoma and thanked them for helping her and tried to press assault charges on the lady but they said I couldn't because I wasn't there and J was over 18. Yes I do know the feeling when you first look at your baby, it is out of this world. Unfortunately, I may never be a part on this one's life. J is talking about adoption and unfortunately I feel it might be a good move. There is just no way she can take care of a child. I am not sure how I feel about adoption but it is not my choice. All I can do is be there for her. My mom is adopted and had a very wonderful experience so atleast J has someone who knows a bit about it.

Well gotta go, hello to everyone.

Brenda

That would be Judy who directed us to Delphi! :)


The shoe store is giving me problems..I knew they would..My son is going to pick them up Monday to see if what they did to the sole made a difference. They do not make the style anymore so antoher pair cannot be ordered and they will only give me credit in the store no money back and right now there is nothing there I can where. If they had told me in the biginning I could not get a refund I would have never bought them! :mad: I was to unsure of them and he talked me into buying them(the salesman).

Worked in the yard today.........still alot of hip and leg pain...but so much to do outside now!

PJ..snakes and spiders......I hate them both!

Meshell..puppies..........how fun!

Bren..glad you still have a job!

Hi Gale............

Where is everyone??????????????????

Hi Everyone,

Candice, I am still around. I have just had a few very busy days. I am sure everyone else will be back soon too, probably just having a busy time theirselves. How are things going with you? I am at work so have to boogie but I am home tonight and should be able to check in.

See Ya
Bren

Brenda - SIZE EIGHT!!????? Wow!!!!!!!! I'll bet you feel and look like a million bucks! Now THAT'S called workin your butt off. And Congrats on your job.

When you said "mostly aviation and things just arn't doing well in the category"......I just wanted to let you know that I don't think you have anything to worry about. Bill has been with Northrop/Grumman for 28 years and besides the stocks going up, up, up......they just got another contract. The government IS going to fund many more $$$$$ for aviation companies so you should be O.K. Bill is the first to find out these things and I can keep you as current as possible. He even finds out before the N.Y. Stock Exchange does. <Grin> .....so I should be pretty accurate. Let's hope so.:D

Yesterday, I fell asleep on the raft in the pool.:( I was so hot after working in the barn that when I walked back to the house....I just jumped into the pool.....then I took my shirt off and since it was a sports bra....I figured I could hang out in my shorts and that......so I did. Heh-heh.......Debbie drove by and said she didn't want to disturb me........she said I was so sprawled out on the thing and by my position....she could tell I was out like a light. AAAhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! Let's just say.....I got burned. :mad: I never lie out in the sun without protection and my shades. :cool:
Now I'm even more wrinkled than before.....Phooey!!!!!!!!! Today we've got a nice breeze so BRING ON THE SUN!!!!!!!! I have FINALLY started to stick with the program again. I wasn't tracking for a little while and I think I speak for all of us when I say IT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. So today is another day and I'm going to be OP and do my exercise. Kind of hard not to around here. If you don't walk it off......you sweat it off. EEEEwwwwwwwww.

I'll be back on tonight. If any of you have IM......MY name is resler41.

See you all later.
Hugs,
Pamela

Hi Everyone,

I weighed in tonight...lost 2.6. I was happy with that. I had an excellent week..drank my water, journaled....did everything right. I need start my excercise program now.

Brenda, you have your hands full!!! I am so happy that your job is safe for now. I wish I had an answer for you with your daughter. Sounds like she is wise ..adoption is a good thing. they provide open adoptions now ..if that is something she is interested in. There must be an organization that can help her through her pregnancy and delivery!!! I don't know of any but maybe someone does?? Keep smiling Brenda...everything will work out fine. You are in my prayers!!
PS..size 8! that is awesome.

Hi PJ
Hi Candice
Hi Meshell
Hi Judy

Have a good week everyone!!!

:wave:
Gale

OK.......I tracked and was right on the nose at my high range, had alot of water and am now FINALLY tired and going to bed. I've had alot of trouble sleeping lately. :dz: Hope you all had a good day and night. "See" you in the morning.

Hi There,

Sorry it has been a bit since I posted. I will inform you of Janessa's latest saga. Now keep in mind that she is somewhere betwwen 5 & 6 months pregneant but I can't get her to go to the doctor. Okay, here we go, 3 nights ago we got a call from the jail in virginia beach, she was arrested for grand larceny and she is now an adult, she will be 19 in Sept. she tried to steal a couple business suite, what for I don't know!!!! The value was 202.00, grand larceny is 200.00 and above. Now it gets worse, she is still on probation for a grand larceny charge when she was a juvenile, that time her and a couple friends stole a video camera out of someone's car. So she broke probation too. Now, I gotta tell you that I didn't not bring her up this way at all. I don't steal and Bree and Kayleen never have stolen anything in their life. She is in with a real bad crowd down in Virginia. So she could be and probably will be in jail when she gives birth. She has asked me to take temporary custody of the baby if she is in jail. No believe me the last thing in the world that I want is to have a baby 24-7. I am telling you, I am ready to give up. I told her, let's see what happens in court on June 20 first. Then I would have to think about it alot. I don't think I could turn my back on her but my gosh, a baby???? I'm gonna try not to think about it until we know what the sentence will be. In the meantime she has promised me to go to a doctor, yeah right!!!

Sorry for the downer, but thanks a bunch for letting me vent, I really needed it.

Gale, hello there again. congratulations on your loss, that is a real good one, you must have worked very hard. Yes a size 8 feels pretty cool but I still have a ways to go. As you can see my life is turned upside down right now and I am an emotional eater so I have to be very careful or I will be in big trouble.

PJ, hey girlfriend, how is that sunburn?? gosh I have had a few of those in my life, Yikes. Thanks for the info on aviation. Actually Northrop/Grumman is one of our customers who buy from us. There are a few branches in Fla who have accounts with us.

Well gotta boogie, out with Steve tomorrow after work and a game Saturday morning. I will try to check in Sat night.

Everyone have a wonderful evening.

Bren

Oh man, Bren.... {{{{{hug}}}} to you, sweetie.
PJ, you come visit any time.
Hi Gale, Candice, and Hi everyone! 20 days left of school. Life is busy and rough right now.
Love yas.

ok......that's it......I'm out of here for the night!!!!!! I just wrote the most heart felt, emotional post I've ever writen on here and it went blank. AAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!! I'll "see" you all tomorrow and Bren hang in there.
Judy ....get ready......'cause here I come...................my kids get out in 11 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeeeeeeeee-haaaaaaaaaaaaaa. :p

I just cannot believe my entire post went ka-put! Grrrrrrrrrrr, can you all say P.I.S.S.E.D. O.F.F. ??????!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good night..............

Bren so sorry to hear of your problems.....that would be a tough one to decide on..........we will be waiting to hear how it turns out! Size 8..I can't even get into an 8, never could no matter how much I weigh...just the way I am built I guess! You are doing great...and even with some stress! (a whole lot of stress!):o

PJ..sounds like you need to move your bed to the pool!:lol: I hate sunburns but always get one the first few times out in the yard..but it has to be alot warmer than it is now!

Judy...are the kids wild???.......I used to sub the last few weeks of school and they were out of control! So I don't do that any more!

Gale..you are doing great....I am just going on my 2nd year and have not missed a day writing my food and exercise down...can't imagine not doing it..if I don't jot it down I forget I ate it! (that is nmot a good thing!):smug:

Bbd storms here last night but all is ok here......glad they got that rual mailbox guy too! We were afraid to get our mail here!

Here is my little angle food cake my son got for my BD.....I love angelfood and it had that new whipped icing but I didn't care for it. Didn't have a taste to the icing..but it was pretty!

Hi Owls!!

I've been "lurking" but not taking time to post..so much going on and not much time...BUT I need to do better by my owl buddies.I'm in a hurry as usual but I HAD to say....

BREN My thoughts and prayers are with you and Janessa that the right thing will be done. I know that you are a wonderful person and a great Mother. There are times that our children do things that are totally opposite of what we have taught them and it is hard to watch and know the best way to help. I am here off and on and you can "vent" to me at any time.

:wave: to you ALL !!

emmy

Hey Brenda: Good to see Punky again. I am visiting my son in Califfornia and have to stand in line with his children to use the computer. I am not familiar with his computer so have much trouble. Will try to get on this site when I get back to Virginia. I can remember when one of your daughters lived at the military base near me but that was years ago. Better quit before I lose what I have typed already. Love, Freddie, FNB, Effenbee, and one of the original nightowls.