General chatter - Halloween Costumes - When Did This Happen?




mandalinn82
10-24-2008, 12:17 AM
I've never been much into Halloween, but sometimes I get invited out somewhere and need to dress up. This happened this year, so I went to the Halloween store to look for a costume.

When did the only options for adult female costumes become 3 inches below the butt? SERIOUSLY!

I found a grand total of 4 dresses that went to mid-thigh. Four. One of them was a very long (floor length) sack of a witch dress. Another was a strapless flapper dress that literally, barely came to mid-thigh (that's counting the fringe). Two more were pirate-ish/wench type costumes Every. Other. Female. Adult. Costume in the place stopped about 3 inches below indecent exposure or had a slit up even higher.

Now, I understand the appeal of Halloween for those who want to dress in a more provocative way than they might otherwise, and fully support building an industry of less-than-demure costumes for those who want them. But what about the industry for the rest of us, who'd like to dress, for example, as a regular policewoman, not a "Sexy policewoman" with a skirt just barely covering our underwear?

Don't even get me started on some of the costumes I saw for girls!

Am I just being a spoilsport? Or have other people noticed this too?

As for me, I have a short wool cape - combine with 60's style pumps, a black and white long plaid skirt, a stark bun with a pencil sticking out, and a book in my hand, and I'm a (not overtly, but still sexy) librarian.


mescelestus
10-24-2008, 12:50 AM
i've really noticed that, and it pisses me off. all the girls modeling the costumes are silicone enhanced porn stars. what's worse is that they don't have costumes big enough. as of now i am a size 14, and i can fit into more things than i used to...but i went to the holloween store with my friend who is a size 24/26....and she couldn't find anything! bettor off putting together your own costume.

CountingDown
10-24-2008, 12:57 AM
I've noticed the same thing. Several of our schools have banned dressing in costumes because they are too gory, too sexy, or just totally inappropriate for school (some are all 3).


lizziep
10-24-2008, 02:07 AM
walking through the mall the other day i saw the following costume options- and no other options- slutty nurse, slutty policewoman, slutty cave girl, slutty pirate, slutty maid, slutty bar wench, and slutty BEE?!?! how they ever though- you know what we haven't done before?! slutty bee girl. WHY?!

even Torrid just had slutty halloween constumes.


i'm wearing my regular clothes and if anyone asks i'm going to tell them I'm a witch. :D

mandalinn82
10-24-2008, 02:37 AM
I saw the slutty bee costume.

I also saw a slutty piece of candy corn (REALLY), and a "Slutty strawberry girl", which appeared to be just pink and lacy and short. Slutty firewoman (complete with hat) too. Slutty versions of every major fairy tale character (Snow White, Little Red Riding Hood, Dorothy). And nurse after nurse after mini-skirted nurse in thigh high vinyl boots.

I was there to spend money - to "throw money at the problem" of having a party to attend in costume tomorrow and no costume to wear...I ended up with a pair of fishnets. But come on! Before I used to think that I was unlucky and couldn't wear those costumes because I was heavy. Now I realizethat they just aren't my cup of tea.

I had been holding out hopes that it was only that way because I'm in a sorority-heavy college town. Sigh.

GatorgalstuckinGA
10-24-2008, 08:39 AM
it is getting pretty crazy. What i can tell you is try a nice high end costume shop. You end up paying more, but they have a wide range. We had one in savannah when i lived there...it was open year round and had costumes for every holiday. They had some awesome costumes...but most of the "cheep" and quick costumes are slutty.

cottagebythesea
10-24-2008, 09:02 AM
I've had some luck finding costume ideas at thriftshops and Goodwill. Several years ago my Red Hat group decided to all dress as old time saloon girls, and found some great dresses and hats at a local thrift shop.

zeffryn
10-24-2008, 10:18 AM
A slutty piece of candy corn? hahahaha...

Also, about it being because you're in a college town...nope...it is that way everywhere. I went with a friend of mine looking for Halloween costumes for our kids...I picked a giraffe for my DS...she picked a fairy for her 5 year old. We got home and put the costumes on and the fairy costume had ribbons for the skirt - RIBBONS! She mentioned something about getting a pair of leggings to go underneath it. I just couldn't believe they would sell a costume like that for young girls.

and we wonder why some people are tempted into child sexual deviance...

Hat Trick
10-24-2008, 10:23 AM
Is it really so surprising that Halloween costumes are like this? Look what is shown on tv. There is no 'family hour' anymore, shows allow cursing that 15 years ago would have not have been allowed, naked people pop up on tv all the time (NYPD Blue's obligitory 'butt' shot comes to mind). I'm not talking about the Pay channels like HBO either. Regular tv. I caught a bit of a movie callled 'Jeepers Creepers 2' on either TBS or USA. It was 2 oclock in the afternoon. The word 'a**hole' was used several times. Movies are not edited for tv like they used to be. All but the 'F' word and the 'S' word are allowed. Just channel surfing is a hazard if your kids are in the room. In doing this once the Sci-Fi channel came on just as the woman screamed 'Die you B***h'. The more that's allowed the further they will push the envelope.

Movies in theatres are worse. Alot of parents think 'PG-13' actually means it's ok for 13 year olds to see the movie. Um not in this house. Check out what is 'allowed' in a PG-13 movie. The 'F' word is allowed 2-3 times and still gets that coveted PG-13 rating. Several years ago it was only allowed once; when PG-13 first came into being it wasn't allowed at all. Little by little the bar is lowered.

I guess I'm just saying . . . that Halloween costumes have gone this route doesn't surprise me at all. How to change things? If people would get some backbone and stop buying into this crap maybe things would change for the better.

We wandered into the Halloween store the other weekend. We won't be back because of these provacative costumes. I was never one to buy costumes to begin with because of the price so I always ended up making them. They're usually much better and way more fun. Sure my kids grumble and think I'm awful. That's ok; just doing my job. :D

Sorry, didn't mean to go all 'soapbox' or pirate this thread or anything; it's just that with the downward turn so many things have taken,Halloween costumes are just one more . . . and it all just ticks me off.

Smiling_Sara
10-24-2008, 10:34 AM
I also loathe that they have "plus size" costumes and then say the model in the pic is 5'7 and 160 lbs.


I did find one that me though. It's a gothic madien witch costume.

FB
10-24-2008, 10:38 AM
and we wonder why some people are tempted into child sexual deviance...

Not picking on you - but really, my 4 year old should be able to wear whatever he wants without the danger of that. Or God forbid, if it would happen it wouldn't be my fault, the costume's fault or his little fault. The ribbon skirt doesn't sound that provocative, I've seen them on little girls at birthday parties and such. It's not the costume to blame - it's the sick person.

I think the kind of monsters who would be tempted into hurting a child would do so no matter what the kid was wearing.

zeffryn
10-24-2008, 11:53 AM
I'm not trying to say it is the parents fault, but honestly...why dress a young girl in provocative clothing? The point of wearing provocative clothing in the first place is to display the "goods"....young children don't have any "goods" to display. Is it really appropriate for young girls to be wearing low cut shirts, shorts with a 1-2" inseam and pants that have "Juicy" written on the butt? Why draw attention to those areas? Young children are not sex objects, why dress them as such? Today's culture sexualizes children at a young age...and most parents don't give a second thought to the repercussions of such actions.

The ribbon skirt was completely inappropriate for a 5 year old. It was about 2 inches below her butt and was sheer to the waist - without any underpinnings. When she twirled, her underwear showed easily. Maybe that doesn't sound inappropriate to you, but I have a really big problem with flaunting a little girl's assets.

Yes, sexual deviants are sick...but, why tempt them into doing something awful. In their minds, it is ok to have sex with children. When children are dressed like sexy adults, it sends the message to people with a proclivity towards sexual deviancy that it is ok. It encourages their behavior rather than clearly delineate the line between normalcy and deviancy.

mandalinn82
10-24-2008, 12:48 PM
Didn't meant to start WW3 over costumes for girls. While I saw some options for girls yesterday that I probably wouldn't put my kids in without leggings/bodysuit/whatever, there were a lot of modest options for girls.

Similarly, I think girls who want to dress with skirts two inches below their butt on Halloween, because its one of the only nights when it is acceptable to do so, should be able to find costumes to meet that need.

I just want to be able to find something NOT like that for myself, and was really bothered that there literally WEREN'T any.

Rather than sending the (already kind of dubious) message of "On Halloween, you can dress extremely provocatively without reproach", the message being sent is, "On Halloween, you HAVE to dress extremely provocatively to call it a costume"). I'm not entirely sure it is driven by consumer demand, either. I heard girl after girl call out from the dressing room "I can't wear this! It's so short! My butt is hanging out!"

Hat Trick
10-24-2008, 01:35 PM
I'm not entirely sure it is driven by consumer demand, either. I heard girl after girl call out from the dressing room "I can't wear this! It's so short! My butt is hanging out!"

But did she end up buying it anyway because there were no other options? Some people may not like the choices but buy them anyway because of the lack of suitable options so I think it is driven, in part, by consumer demand. If enough people stopped buying these types of costumes and gave the feedback to the companies making them, costumes would change. Same for everything else. :)

EsperanzaBella82
10-24-2008, 01:47 PM
Besides the higher end costume shops that Gatorgal mentioned, I would never buy a costume from a store. They're just too mass produced and not unique or of good enough quality for me.

When I was a child I went trick-or-treating every year and my Mom never bought any costumes for us. She made them when we were younger (Little Red Riding Hood, Raggedy Ann and Andy, Cowboy, Cowgirl, etc.) and then we had to use our own creativity and make our own when we were between the ages of 8-13 (I borrowed my brother's boy scout uniform one year...LOL). As an adult, I have never dressed up, but I have helped my younger siblings make their costumes. I dressed my sister up as a dead prom queen last year using a combo of items from the store and our house. I think that everybody should design and make their own Halloween costume at least once in their lifetimes.

Mandalinn, I think that your homemade costume sounds great! I have been looking online at costumes with my 21 yo sister who is going as a slutty policewoman...http://www.3wishes.com/images/kinkycop_s-l.jpg She is 5'7 and 130-something lbs. and loves to show off her legs and boobs on a regular basis, so this isn't really a stretch for her. Plus, she is going out on Halloween w/ her boyfriend to the clubs in Scottsdale and I don't know if anybody is familiar with Scottsdale, AZ night life, but the dress code is basically underwear on a regular night, so on Halloween people will be pretty much naked. The options for women online are just as bad as the options in the mall, tho!

zeffryn
10-24-2008, 06:00 PM
I heard girl after girl call out from the dressing room "I can't wear this! It's so short! My butt is hanging out!"

:lol:

While I was out today, I saw a "slutty pioneer woman" costume....think Little House on the Prairie with a 2 inch skirt. If that isn't a complete oxymoron, I don't know what is.

I seem to remember when I was younger, there were a lot of creative options for store-bought costumes...now, it's "slutty _______" or nothing.

Your homemade costume sounds better than anything you would have found in stores :)

ANOther
10-24-2008, 06:08 PM
I hope this isn't partisan, but you could always do-up your hair, put on a pair of specs and be Sarah Palin ... ::ducks and runs::

zeffryn
10-24-2008, 06:22 PM
I hope this isn't partisan, but you could always do-up your hair, put on a pair of specs and be Sarah Palin ... ::ducks and runs::

My husband and I had considered being Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and boyfriend, but figured it was a bit obscure for the masses of drunkards that will be out that night.

Operator265
10-24-2008, 07:23 PM
Guess I'm lucky to live in WY/UT. I've always been able to find the ankle length "Lady of the Manor" type dresses beside the "Slutty (insert everything)". It's not just that these are 2 of the most conservative states in the nation, but Halloween is traditionally the first blizzard of the year, so we don't want to freeze our butts off.:brr:

A few years ago I spent the extra money and got one of the nicer ones for like $30(it was $60 before Halloween). I can wear it over and over again since I just wear it, a cape and make up for handing out candy. Still gives out a good boob shot though.:s:

Oh yeah, this year I found a half mask with black feathers on one half and white feathers on the other half to save me time on wearing and cleaning off makeup.

mandalinn82
10-24-2008, 07:51 PM
I don't know how great mine is...clothes I already had, a pair of fishnets, and a ruler in my hair. But at least I'll be WARM!

Skinny Teen
10-24-2008, 07:56 PM
I make my own costumes, so everything's covered.
Well... It's kinda leggy, but the skirt stops just above the knee. (LOLITA CATGIRL YAY!)

oneupsteph
10-24-2008, 08:39 PM
even Torrid just had slutty halloween constumes.

I know! It's like, why would a size 24 girl wanna wear booty shorts?!

Shopaholic1204
10-24-2008, 09:26 PM
Where did you look for costumes at?? I've been finding nothing but awesome non slutty ones. Although, I do love the slutty ones..I even bought one (but it was from Fredricks of Hollywood..and I only plan on wearing it in the bedroom, lol). I did buy a really awesome costume this year though!!!

VermontMom
10-24-2008, 10:11 PM
I am still :rotfl over the thought of the slutty candy corn, slutty Little House on the Prairie :rotfl
but will be totally honest and admit that, now that I have more self-confidence (and husband's approval :D,) I made my own "Hot School Mistress" outfit for a costume party (adults only) with items from a thrift store.

JulieJ08
10-24-2008, 10:27 PM
HatTrick, all the channels you mentioned are pay channels in my area. Are they regular TV in some areas?

mandalinn82
10-24-2008, 10:27 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31y63vtbPQL._SL500_.jpg

There's the slutty corn. It was shorter on :o

jahjah1223
10-24-2008, 10:31 PM
I think it looks pretty cute!! Maybe it was shorter because that girl is much shorter.

Shopaholic1204
10-24-2008, 11:33 PM
LoL!!! That is kinda funny.

oneupsteph
10-25-2008, 12:13 AM
Has anyone seen this one (http://www.amazon.com/Ladies-Sexy-Naughty-Costume-8-14/dp/B000XK2VYK/ref=sr_1_110?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1224904255&sr=1-110)?!

zeffryn
10-25-2008, 12:47 AM
The slutty candycorn looks like a slutty retro candy corn....I would feel like such a reject wearing that geeky little hat.

Who the heck would want to take the candy corn home from the bar?

modcat44
10-25-2008, 01:58 AM
Haha Stephi--just right for that warped catholic-school boyfriend!! ;)

kelly315
10-25-2008, 02:12 AM
I actually had someone suggest to me that the best place to shop for costumes is The Garden, a local porn store. Yikes.

jellydisney
10-25-2008, 08:29 AM
Rather than sending the (already kind of dubious) message of "On Halloween, you can dress extremely provocatively without reproach", the message being sent is, "On Halloween, you HAVE to dress extremely provocatively to call it a costume"). I'm not entirely sure it is driven by consumer demand, either. I heard girl after girl call out from the dressing room "I can't wear this! It's so short! My butt is hanging out!"

I'm so glad you brought up this topic because it is something that has bothered me for a few years now. Did anyone see Mean Girls? Do you remember the part when she goes to the Halloween party dressed as a corpse bride, and all the other girls are dressed as playboy bunnies? That SO hit home for me.

The worst thing is, like Mandalinn said, I feel like I HAVE to dress slutty or I'll feel bad about myself and stick out like a sore thumb. I think it's a female competition thing. If I go dressed up as something extremely conservative, all of the OTHER women will be dressed in the slutty costumes and I'll feel bad about the way I look. On the other hand, if I dress in a slutty costume too, I'll be uncomfortable, cold, and constantly wondering if everybody can see where the sun don't shine.

Ugh. So this year I'm not dressing up. But next year maybe I'll make something. At least it'll be cheaper! (Those flimsy slutty costumes cost a lot of money!)

zeffryn
10-25-2008, 10:09 AM
I'm so glad you brought up this topic because it is something that has bothered me for a few years now. Did anyone see Mean Girls? Do you remember the part when she goes to the Halloween party dressed as a corpse bride, and all the other girls are dressed as playboy bunnies? That SO hit home for me.

The worst thing is, like Mandalinn said, I feel like I HAVE to dress slutty or I'll feel bad about myself and stick out like a sore thumb. I think it's a female competition thing. If I go dressed up as something extremely conservative, all of the OTHER women will be dressed in the slutty costumes and I'll feel bad about the way I look. On the other hand, if I dress in a slutty costume too, I'll be uncomfortable, cold, and constantly wondering if everybody can see where the sun don't shine.

Ugh. So this year I'm not dressing up. But next year maybe I'll make something. At least it'll be cheaper! (Those flimsy slutty costumes cost a lot of money!)

Agreed!

Hat Trick
10-25-2008, 10:50 AM
HatTrick, all the channels you mentioned are pay channels in my area. Are they regular TV in some areas?


TBS and USA are part of the Standard Cable package. Yes, we are paying for them because we are paying for cable but they are not 'extra' like HBO or Showtime, etc. They are part of the Standard line up. I remember about 15 yrs ago some of these channels we part of the Basic cable package. Then they changed it up so that Basic cable is just that . . . and anything else you need Standard.

Shopaholic1204
10-25-2008, 11:26 AM
Am I the only one who doesnt have a prob with the slutty looking costumes?? My friend and I looked at a ton of them and commented on how cute some of them were. If they came in my size, then I would totally wear them. OR if I slimmed down enough, then ya..I'd wear it too.

nelie
10-25-2008, 12:19 PM
My husband and I were in target and we were laughing at the skimpy costumes. The issue is that costumes USED to be smart in order to sell, now all they have to be is skimpy to sell.

EZMONEY
10-25-2008, 02:24 PM
Am I the only one who doesnt have a prob with the slutty looking costumes?? ......

Well....I could lie ;)

JulieJ08
10-25-2008, 02:34 PM
I think, as Mandalinn said, it's not the existence of sexy costumes that is the problem, but the sheer dominance (perhaps not the right word here :devil:) in the market. It's such a disturbing message to teens and young women, and such a sad and very clear comment on what the most appropriate role for women is considered to be. I think it's great to be confident in your sexuality and wear whatever you want. But a woman looking for a modest and smart costume shouldn't be a weird exception to the rule.

ANOther
10-25-2008, 05:49 PM
Maybe it's an eye-of-the-beholder thing but *I* don't think the candycorn costume looks all THAT slutty

LindseyLouWho
10-25-2008, 10:13 PM
Well, I went to buycostumes.com and some of the comments on the candy corn costume and the others like it said that the model must be really short because on them, the waist of the dress came right below the bust line and the skirt was MUCH shorter. At least it's not as obviously slutty as the other costumes, considering "the girls" appear to be well concealed... haha.

Wolf Goddess
10-26-2008, 12:23 AM
I went into a Halloween shop that the mall sets up every year, and I swear I felt like I had walked into a fetish shop. I saw nurses, french maids, prison wardens, police chicks, all with skirts just barely covering the inappropriate areas.

And the men's? One of them included a genie in a lamp, the spout of which stuck straight out from - well, I'll let you guess.

And it also said "rub me" on the side.

katieonaplan
10-26-2008, 07:42 PM
Well, I'm no prude, but if anyone wants an idea for an easy and cute costume to make:

Puppy

I used longjohns which I dyed light brown, sewed on dark brown felt patches in places for spots. I made a headband with two floppy ears out of the same dark brown felt and a tail, with a white tip, wore furry slippers and had one white and one brown mitten. I made up my face with a brown spot over one eye, "freckles" on my nose, wore a jeweled collar and carried a box of "People snacks" to the party. The best costume ever - that was a fun time.

The heck with paying money for what I've been seeing.

grasshoppermf
10-26-2008, 08:22 PM
There is an abundance of sluttyness in halloween costumes but this is nothing new. I did my share of wearing the sexy devil :devil: costume, cat, etc...when I was younger but everything was covered proper.

I am SO glad that my children are adults now because I often cringe when walking by the kids department in Macy's and the like. I can't believe some of the every day outfits that are on the racks that are meant for children. Ugh!

I would love to see pics posted of everyone in their costumes!

:cool:

EZMONEY
10-28-2008, 12:02 AM
MY FAVORITE ;) Saw this in the paper today....thought you may like to read it.http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-sexy27-2008oct27,0,919843.story

tamaralynn
10-28-2008, 09:18 AM
I agree - check a costume shop :) You'll find some nice things - the only drawback are the prices are a little higher than most shops.

I dressed as a pirate one time - and wore a pair tight black pants underneath (remember the leggings from the 80's).

It worked out well :)

ANOther
10-29-2008, 02:36 PM
There was something on the Today show this morning (10.29) about too-skimpy costumes for little girls. French maid yet: she-eez!

When I was a kid (mid 60s), I went up to the attic, got out an old dress of my mom's (c. 1947) and an old hat, took an umbrella and went as more or less Mary Poppins (not with the Disney imprimatur of course). What's wrong with getting out old clothes and going as a hobo or bag lady, or is that no longer PC?

JulieJ08
10-29-2008, 02:40 PM
When I was a kid (mid 60s), I went up to the attic, got out an old dress of my mom's (c. 1947) and an old hat, took an umbrella and went as more or less Mary Poppins (not with the Disney imprimatur of course). What's wrong with getting out old clothes and going as a hobo or bag lady, or is that no longer PC?

No longer cool.

EZMONEY
10-30-2008, 01:40 AM
I never had a store bought costume

But then I am 54

In my day we "stopped" trick or treating by 9th grade too

Over 20 and still Trick or Treating in my neighborhood...come on..

the little kids get a handful from me

the "adults" get 1 candy

Angie went shopping for costume accessories yesterday...said she noticed that the training bras now have under wire....

We have created a monster :yikes:

Tomato
10-30-2008, 08:17 AM
Not that I want to dismiss any of your concerns (I would not want to have the slutty option as the only option - nothing to do with body size, it simply would not be my choice), but I am not sure if we have this problem up North. This week, the temperature dropped to the freezing point and we had first snow yesterday. It will warm up a tad today and tomorrow but in this type of weather (usual for us, I have to say) there won't be too many slutty creatures running around (unless they put a thick thermal bodysuit underneath).
Having said that, I actually don't know what costumes are available for adults here. I saw a lot of cute kiddie costumes at Walmart, but were all too light for the current temperature.

tikanique
10-30-2008, 05:03 PM
Underwire in the smaller bras doesn't bother me so much as all the friggin padding. I have a hard time finding my daughter bras that aren't giving her a boost. Regarding costumes for kids, Party City had quite a few cute options for teens, like teen witch, teen fairy, etc. that weren't too low cut. Some of them also came with striped tights for even more coverage so the girl and I both left the store pleased with our purchase.

nelie
10-30-2008, 05:36 PM
Tika - Its hard finding ANY bras without padding. I actually gave up bras about a year ago. Instead I went with inexpensive sports bras (camisole like) and camisoles with built in bras.

ANOther
10-31-2008, 05:18 PM
Its hard finding ANY bras without padding. I actually gave up bras about a year ago. Instead I went with inexpensive sports bras (camisole like) and camisoles with built in bras.

Are you talking about adult bras? Where do you shop? Nowadays I get all my bras from decentexposures.com (which are more like sports bras), but Woman Within, Roaman's and Just My Size all have nice soft-cup bras (as well as the underwire stuff which I avoid like ye plague). Of course I like my bras functional not frilly, but YMMV

Operator265
10-31-2008, 05:38 PM
Well, just got back from the Halloween Store and they did have some plus size outfits. Guess what. Every one of them was a Slutty Whatever.:rolleyes: