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JudyMH
04-17-2002, 12:15 PM
As I have said right now I am into walking, yoga, weights and taebo. I am considering taking up running. My problem is, I haven't seriously pursued it in alot of years. Any suggestions in getting started? I got a book on the subject, and the author suggested alternating between walking and running. Is this a good idea, or would it be better to slow it down and just try to run? Probably the most important thing is warm up and cool down. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (((In Health))) Judy


Rupertsmom
04-17-2002, 07:01 PM
Check out: http://kicksports.com/new/ for great advice for the new runner. The "Couch to 5K" link is very helpful in getting a new runner up to a 3 mile pace without injury.

Best advice: go slower than you think you should. Running well has positive psychological impact, and running poorly has just the opposite. If you start out too fast (meaning too fast a pace where you're sucking wind or too much distance where you injure yourself), you can totally defeat your attempts to become a runner. Work up slowly, and when you reach your milestones of 1, 2, 3, etc miles feel very proud of your accomplishment.

Good luck!

JudyMH
04-18-2002, 12:40 AM
Thanks for the advice, it makes sense. I will also check out the website you suggested. I did go for a run today and it went pretty good, but I still had to run then walk. One of these days I'll make it just running. It all takes time to condition a persons body to do that. (((In Health))) Judy


t-girl
04-18-2002, 01:46 AM
Hey, what I can tell you, is when I was in the military we did alot of running . For those who first started, they paced us out. You time yourself and see how intense it is for you cardiovascularly, yet eventually i had to drop from it because i found out I had asthma:( well you start slow, walk if you have to, and build up each time.
Take care,
Latisia

IndyLauri
04-18-2002, 09:09 PM
I recently started running too. I am 42 and still need to lose about 10 lbs. 15 would be better, but I'll settle for 10 right now ;-)
I am training for a 5k race that is not until august, and having never run before, I guess this is plenty of time.
I found a training program for beginning runners at www.runningtimes.com
hope this helps
hi t-girl! :)
Lauri

JudyMH
04-19-2002, 01:00 AM
Thankyou everyone for your great advice. I'm writing down the websites suggested and will look at them. I went to the High school track and alternated walking and running for 6 laps which is about a mile and a half. The grand kids played in the middle and I pushed a jogging stroller with my 2 year old, and 16 month old. Otherwise they would have been crying. It went pretty well though, I think the weights and Tae Bo made me strong enough to be able to push them. I must have been a sight, hope nobody took any pictures. Can't you just see the headlines now ( Deranged Grandma Making a Fool of herself at South Kitsap High) Well as long as it makes me stronger that's all I care (((LOL))). In Health Judy

IndyLauri
04-19-2002, 10:21 AM
Rupertsmom: I have also been to the kicksports web site and I love that one too. The training journal alone is wonderful. I think it keeps me motivated. I also do like the couch to 5k page. And the running club message boards.
Take it easy!
lauri

JudyMH
04-19-2002, 03:02 PM
Hi IndyLauri, Thankyou for the great websites. Did I understand you are training for 5k race? Good luck with that. It will be awhile before I can think of racing. Thankyou for your words of encouragement, I need all the help I can get. Good Luck to you keep me posted as to your progress, have a great weekend, Judy

IndyLauri
04-19-2002, 04:05 PM
Judy, My goal for the 5k is just to finish at this point. As I said, I have never run before. My husband used to run regulary, about 3 miles, 4-5 times a week. He injured his back a few years ago, and had surgery this past January. He goes with me to the track now, and he STILL runs circles around me LOL!!
When I first started, my lungs would just kill me after about 1/8 of a mile. Now my lungs seem ok, but my legs will go first after about 1/4 mile or so. I am determined to do this though, and my husband is very supportive of me.
lauri

JudyMH
04-20-2002, 09:48 PM
Hi Lauri, Sorry it has taken me so long to respond to you. I hear you about your lungs burning, mine still do, and the running isn't the only thing I do. If you keep training you should meet your goal of finishing the 5k race. I'm glad your husband supports you, that makes it easier. I think I pulled a muscle today in my leg. I don't know if the Tae Bo did it, or the 6 laps I did at the High School track, but I'm going to have to stretch out the muscle gently. Bob doesn't mean to be negative, he just thinks this should come as easily to me as it does for him. Oh well I like having someone to discuss the issues with, so thanks for your encouraging messages. Keep up the good work, Judy

IndyLauri
04-21-2002, 09:38 AM
Judy, I have learned from runners message boards, etc, ice, ice,ice
and rest rest rest. I know... the last thing you want to do when you are on a roll is have to rest LOL! Also, if you can stomach ibuprofen that will help with the swelling. I did read never take ibuprofen right before you run. I guess it can mask pain and injuries etc.
Geez, who am I, Marcus Welby? :lol:
Seriously though, I really think you should check out this link called Couch to 5k. It should have you (us) running 3 miles in 2 months. I did the Week one workout yesterday using the time option, and it was quite manageable.

http://kicksports.com/new/couch.shtml
Good luck!
Lauri

JudyMH
04-23-2002, 11:37 AM
Hi IndiLauri, I have been checking out the running websites. I found another interesting one and subscribed to the news letter they offered. I ended up with more newsletters then I wanted though, so I will pick the ones to unsubscribe from. After answering my mail this morning I plan on looking at the couch to 5k website you have spoken of. My leg is much better, I didn't do anything on Sunday, and I'm sure it was psychological but I could feel myself getting out of shape. Of course that is not how it works, but it is amazing how your mind can play with your emotions. Bob and I took our morning walk, both today and yesterday. I did Tae Bo yesterday and today is a running day, if I can talk myself into it. The day is still young though. Hope to talk to you soon, Judy

IndyLauri
04-24-2002, 08:59 AM
today is my running day, too. I have to work late tonight because we're moving our offices to another building and I have to pack up my junk. So since I usually run at night I am trying to decide: do I want to haul my cookies around the track at 6:30AM or go at lunch. Decisions, decisions.... if I go at 6:30 I could be mugged (in cheyenne? LOL) but I can come back home and shower and get ready for work... If I wait until NOON then I have to take my clothes to the gym and change and then shower and change back... but it would cut into my eating time, so that might be good :) :)
Sometimes if I am not motivated but I start anyway, I am really glad. I can almost feel the inches dropping from my butt and thighs LOL!!
Good luck!!
Lauri

JudyMH
04-24-2002, 06:15 PM
Hi Lauri, my oldest daughter's name is Laurie. She has a birhday coming up in 5 days. I can't believe she is going to be 29. I can still remember the pain of childbirth. It took me 20 hours to give birth to her, now she has children of her own. I did talk myself into a run yesterday, I went to the Ymca and ran the treadmill. It tells you how many calories you have expended, not very many, but it was a bit more cousiony, (is that even a word,it's terribly misspelled.) I was glad I kept my membership going even though I haven't been using it. Is Cheyenne have alot of crime? Port Orchard doesn't. We only have just under 8000 peole that live here. 3 years ago Bob and I drove back from Michigan and we went thru your state. Stopped at McDonalds in I forget what town, you guys still had quite a bit of snow. Did you figure out when a good time to run was? Personally even though it's a pain to haul myself out of bed, I like doing that stuff in the morning. I did check out the website that both of you guys suggested
and thought the couch to 5 k was interesting. The Runners.com was mostly about racing. Unless I get a huge attitude adjustment I doubt that I will race for quite awhile. I am thinking of putting an ad in the paper and getting a group of running enthusiasts together so we can run maybe on Saturdays. I'll have to see if I get a response, otherwise it will be me and perhaps my daughter. Today was a Tae Bo day, tomorrow is a running day. Keep up the good work Hey Rupertsmom, haven't heard from you in a while. Thanks for the advice on running slower then you have an inclination to do. It seems to be working but I still do the walking then running. I'm not worried about it though I figure one of these days I'll be able to really take off. Do you run marathons? If so I think that's great, my daughter Laurie does. Just thought I would touch base with you take care. (((In Health))) Judy

Rupertsmom
04-24-2002, 06:35 PM
And another thought for those with doubts about this running-thing...If I can do it, anybody can. I am so completely NOT the athletic type, if you get my drift. lol. But I'm glad I gave it a try, because it's honestly one form of exercise I go back to over and over again without having to talk myself into it too much.

Judy - Hi! I'm still laughing at the thought of me running a marathon. I suppose it's possible that I would commit myself to that amount of training, but so far I just haven't been bitten by the bug. I seem to run exclusively for fitness and how it makes me feel, and going out and running 3 miles a couple of times a week is what I enjoy. I don't seem to have a strong desire to keep pushing myself to go further. I have run a couple of 10k races, an 8k and a few 5ks. Out of all of those, I like the 10k the most. It's kind of a fitness hurdle for me, where I figure if I can do anything high intensity for an hour then I'm not in too bad a shape. I'm currently debating training for a 20k on July 4th, but I just don't know if I'm up for it to be honest. I've got kind of a nice routine going with my weight lifting and other cardio that I get at the gym that adding more running to my schedule would limit the other things I do. I'm probably just going to stick to the 10k. Good for your daughter, though, in running marathons! Hey, maybe she and mom will do one together? :)

JudyMH
04-28-2002, 12:16 AM
Hi Rupertsmom, I'm sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you.I can understand you not being interested in competition, I was just curious. That is exactly what I am doing, just running for the heck of it, and to see if it really gets to be an addiction. So far it hasn't. Today I got an hours worth of walking in and not much else, tomorrow is my day off. I really like that it seems to be giving me more stamina, but then I alternate that with Tae Bo. I also do alot with weights. So far I haven't run any races, and haven't had the interest in competing. Keep up the good work, we can accomplish our goals one day at a time. Keep me posted on your progress. (((In Health))) Judy

JudyMH
04-28-2002, 12:28 AM
Hi Lauri, Have you got your office packed up yet? Hope everything is going ok on the move. I didn't get in anything but walking today, but I figure I'll be ready by Monday. Hope you are having a good weekend, today has been really busy for me. How many days a week do you run? I usually run about 3 days, I don't have any ambition at this time to compete. Just wondering if it will ever become an addiction, so far not. My daughter says it is as necessary as her morning cup of coffee, we'll see if it ever gets that way for me. Keep me posted on your progress, we can accomplish anything we put our minds to. ((In Health)) Judy

Venus Envy
04-28-2002, 08:17 AM
I loved the Couch to 5k link! I'm 41, a marathon walker who'd love to run. I also have a LOT of poundage to lose before I become a runner. But yesterday's endurance training session was 19 miles, and after reading the Couch to 5K info, I did modified intervals for 13 of those miles (walk 10 minutes, jog 1). I pared almost 45 seconds off my mile that way -- which adds up over the course of a marathon.

I was crazy proud when I finished.

Thanks for this thread!

JudyMH
04-29-2002, 11:12 AM
Hi Kim, Congratulations, 19 miles is quite a distance and you have every reason to be proud. I have looked at the couch to 5k website too, it is really good and so is the front runner website. Today I modified my running and enjoyed the experience this morning. I guess I was going at it the wrong way and making it harder then it had to be. You are probably wise in easing in to your running program, I want to make my running a lifetime habit, so jumping in and going faster then I should wasn't helping my cause. I'm older then you, so you are wise getting in the habit at a much younger age. Keep up the good work, you'll notice that your weight will start dropping. We're all going to see some great results, and accomplish our goals. Again congratulations on your accomplishment, keep me posted as to your progress. (((In Health))) Judy

JudyMH
04-30-2002, 09:07 PM
Hi is anybody out there? Tomorrow is my running day and I am looking forward to it. I think I'm going to try and run a little farther so that I go for 2 miles instead of 1.5. I don't see a lot of runners anymore like I used to. They either got discouraged and quit or changed their running time.last time I ran I took the advice of the folks at kick couch to 5 k website and it went alot smoother. Will let you know how tomorrow goes (((In Health))) Judy

Venus Envy
05-01-2002, 01:59 PM
How'd your run go, Judy?

JudyMH
05-02-2002, 12:35 AM
Hi Kim, my run went very well. I felt so invigorated afterwards. I increased my mileage by 1/2 a mile and did 2 miles. I want to eventually kick that up again, but I'll stay at 2 miles for awhile. I want to congratulate you on your weight loss. 82 pounds is very impressive. i hope everything is going well for Lauri and Ruperts mom. Haven't heard from you in a while. It's kind of strange running in the morning since I'm not usually a morning person. But it seems to make the rest of my day better, go figure. Have a great rest of the evening, and keep me posted on how you are doing. Judy

Venus Envy
05-02-2002, 10:09 AM
(( (( whoo hoo! )) )) Way to go, Judy! A 25% increase in running distance is spectacular.

When do you usually run or tackle one of your other fitness activities?

I had surgery Monday (O the joys of having a middle-aged womb!) and have been taking it easy this week. Started back with an easy 4.5 miles this morning (15.1 mins/mile), very little jogging. I'm still bloated from the anesthesia and IV stuff, and running just wasn't in me. I expect that by Saturday I'll be back to my 10 min. walking/1 min. jogging intervals.

Wearing new shoes today -- my marathon shoes, I hope. *fingers crossed* Finding the right shoes can be tricky for anybody, but I think it's a particularly mystical quest for larger people. I like Saucony Grid Webs (of COURSE the model's been discontinued this year), which are nice and cushiony, even for large frames.

IndyLauri
05-02-2002, 10:42 AM
Gosh... I feel like such a slug compared to you all. I have never been a runner, but I am really trying this time. I won't tell *My*
mileage, but I am following the couch to 5k plan, week 2. Today is work out day. On tuesday I went to the gym during lunch and that worked out well. Since my office moved I am alot closer to the Air Force base and since my husband is active duty I can use their gym for free.
Well, talk at ya later
lauri

JudyMH
05-02-2002, 06:45 PM
Hi Kim and Lauri, Well Kim I admire your dedication, I'm not sure I'd be that dedicated after surgery. We both have middle age itis. I think eveything goes to pot all at once. Tomorrow is a running day, today was weights and Tae Bo. I do my running in the morning, and my Tae Bo in the afternoon when my grandchildren are asleep.At least you are out doing something Lauri and that counts for everything. It doesn't really matter about the miles ony that you are willing to go out there and do it despite your schedule. Keep up the good work both of you, and keep me posted on your progress. The couch to 5 k website is good thankyou for putting me on to it. ((In Health)) Judy

Venus Envy
05-03-2002, 03:42 PM
Hey there, IndyLaurie! Sounds like you've got a lot going for you -- two weeks toward the 5k goal and a new physical environment that makes your motivation count twice. Isn't it nice when things fall into place like that?

You're right, Judy -- it's a middle-age thing. Well, that and a postdivorce thing! I don't think I would ever have been assertively selfish enough to devote this much time to an activity until I decided to call the marriage quits.

Like you with your running, I do my walking in the morning. But I slept barely two hours last night, so I haven't done my workout yet today. I'm hoping I'll have enough oomph after work to head right to the gym for a little time on the bike and some work on back and biceps. Friday's usually a light walking day anyway, because Saturday is endurance training day. We did 19 miles last weekend, so just 12-13 tomorrow. (*tee hee* I love saying that -- "just" 12 miles!)

Have a luscious weekend, all y'all!

JudyMH
05-04-2002, 02:25 PM
Hi all, I agree with Kim, Lauri you have alot to be proud of. That you are motivated enough to go and do this despite your schedule says alot. I only got about 3 hours sleep last night but got up my usual time and ran. I had a hard time getting into it this morning, but just ran with less enthusiasm.Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a fitness pill you could take on the days you just don't want to. I think walking 12 or 13 miles this weekend is great Kim, I have a long ways to go before I can match you. I think exercising will help you thru your post divorce emotions and everything else you have to go thru. Well keep up the good work everybody and I'll try and do the same, ((In Health)) Judy

Venus Envy
05-06-2002, 10:05 AM
Oh, hon ... I have just ONE post-divorce emotion: Can you say "B-L-I-S-S"? *grin*

My Team in Training group was going to run/walk in the rain Saturday, but we chickened out for fear of injuries this close to the race date. So I spent a great couple hours at the gym instead, and then a few of us met Sunday for our long run/walk. Everyone was whiny, though (Sunday is supposed to be REST DAY, DAGNABBIT!), and nobody else wanted to get the full mileage in. So we did 8 as a looseknit group (three of us walking, five people running), then I went on and did another 5.5 on my own. Did the whole thing in 3 hours, 18 minutes -- not bad for a hilly trail, and 6 minutes faster than my half-marathon time in December on a fairly easy course.

I'd love to shave another 30 seconds off my mile by June 2. That should be doable, right? Hopefully the Couch to 5k plan will help me ramp up my jogging intervals.

JudyMH
05-06-2002, 12:18 PM
Hi Kim, It sounds like you guys worked around your problem nicely. I think you will be able to shave off more time if you try and increase it gradually. Just don't tax your body more then it is rady to be taxed, or you'll end up with an injury. Well I got a prime example this morning as to why you should never take an aspirin before running. I woke up at 3:00 in pain, so I took a couple of aspirins. Got up at my usual 4:15 and ran my usual 2 miles, but I almost lost my cookies going up the hill, it was the aspirin I took earlier. So I guess from now on no aspirin before running. I was relieved to get rid of my ex also, some days I feel the same way about my present husband. But I guess I'll keep him(ha ha). Keep up the good work, and you will meet your goals. Judy

Venus Envy
05-07-2002, 11:55 AM
We've got our 22 miler this Saturday, so training's at a relatively low pace this week. My hamstrings are still a little achy from Sunday's hills, so I did a pretty leisurely 5 miles this morning (2 miles of easy walking, then 3 miles with a little interval jogging tossed in).

When I first started, my body was telling me GO SLOW, GO SLOW ... but my brain, my guilt!, were telling me I absolutely could NOT allow myself to slack off. It was a struggle to keep those first two miles slow and trust my body to set the pace most comfortable for it. And lo and behold! -- after those first couple of miles, the most comfortable pace turned out to be the pace I wanted to begin with.

How cool!!! See? I CAN trust my body on occasion! LOL

JudyMH
05-07-2002, 07:50 PM
Hi Kim, Good for you 22 miles is impressive. I know what you mean about trying to pace yourself. I constantly have to slow myself down. I've talked a couple of people in to at least trying to run a little. But I always tell them listen to your body, don't over extend yourself if you don't want an injury. Especially true for beginners like myself. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks if you are walking and jog a little then walk again. Though I've had guys come up to me and try and give advice. Anyway it looks like you know what works for you, so keep up the good work.Will you be doing alot of miles again this weekend? Today was a Tae Bo day for me and tomorrow is a running day,I've actually gotten to the point where I look forward to my running days. Please keep me informed, and we can keep our motivation high. ((In Health)) Judy

Venus Envy
05-09-2002, 09:37 AM
Guess what guess what guess what?!??! I ran 1.5 of my 4 miles this morning!! (( (( whoo hoo! )) ))

*laughing* The funny thing is, though, that I walk faster than I jog! LOL But it felt great to jog (it feels too weird to call it "running") three half-mile pieces in the last two miles of my workout. Now that I know I can do it without dying or breaking something vital, maybe I can pick up the pace a bit.

Last weekend was only 13.5 miles -- this weekend is 22. So I have to lay off training tomorrow, which will be tough because I feel like such a low-life slacker on the days I don't work out. But I guess that's the point, right? Letting the body get a little anxious adds motivation to the big run the next day.

Do you do tae-bo at home or at the gym? How long have you been doing all this activity?

JudyMH
05-10-2002, 12:08 PM
Hi, congratulations on running 1.5 of your 4 miles!!! That is awesome. I don't run very fast either. Everyone has to start somewhere though. I wish you luck on your walking marathon this weekend. Yesterday was my Tae Bo day and today was my running day. I did my 2 miles even though I feel myself coming down with a chest cold. I started doing yoga on my 50th birthday in December, because my flexibility was going to heck. Then in February I started doing tae Bo and weights. Then the running thing I started a few weeks ago. I love how it makes me feel, so I will keep doing it. I tell you though it is harder to lose any weight when you get older, it gets discouraging after awhile. You are wise to lay off training even though it's not easy, take care,and tell me how you do this weekend, Judy

Venus Envy
05-12-2002, 08:21 AM
Judy, you are such an inspiration! The work you're doing with yourself makes me feel strong, too.

You know, last April, it was my friend Debi who got me into marathon walking when she confided that she wanted to walk a marathon for her 50th birthday and asked if I would train with her a little bit. So there's something magical about 50 that is not only a cause for celebration but for inspiration as well.

Our Team in Training coaches have a rule about training while sick: If it's a head cold, run; if it's below the neck, rest. Your body can't pump enough oxygen if your lungs or bronchia are compromised, and that can mean increased risk of injury to oxygen-starved muscles. I know you pay attention to what your body's telling you. Just take care, ok? I depend on good stuff from you!

I did my 22-mile walk yesterday and ran about 4 miles of it. Did the whole thing in 5 hours, 24 minutes. We walkers started an hour before the runners, and I was thrilled to come in around the same time as some of the slower runners. Even though EVERYTHING hurt (!), it was a great feeling to know that my body would have gladly gone another 4 miles for marathon distance. And three weeks from today, it'll have to!!

We won't train any higher than 22 miles before the race. From here until June 2, we'll just lengthen our daily walks and keep doing cross-training. So I've got three weeks to work on the stuff that hurts most from yesterday -- strengthen the hamstring muscles (owwie! they were REALLY screaming yesterday) and do more exercises to prevent shin burn at the beginning of the race.

JudyMH
05-13-2002, 11:15 AM
Hi Kim, I hope you had a good weekend. I finally have my voice back, but still have quite a cold. Yesterday I did nothing, and I swear it's psychological but I could feel the weight start piling on again. Today I did my usual running, just not as strenuously as usual. I think it's great you trained with your friend Debi. Most of my friends think I'm crazy. They are sporting a stomach, and they seem to accept it as normal. I still think 22 miles is impressive. How long did it take you to work up to being able to walk that distance? I'm thinking of taking the kds to the gym with me, so I can use the weight room. I'm not sure yet. Well keep me posted as to your progress,and we'll keep each other motivated. You are a great inspiration and motivator for me. Keep up the good work Judy

JudyMH
05-16-2002, 12:42 AM
Hi Kim, well yesterday was a bust. all I got in was my 35 minute walk. Today I did better I also got in my 2 mile run and feel alot better. My 6 grandchildrn came to spend the day with me, so the house was full, they all left about an hour ago. I hope you are having a great week, let me know how your training for the big marathon is coming along, I'll be cheering you on. You won't be doing 22 miles this weekend will you? You are doing great. physical fitness and weight loss is a journey, we just have to enjoy the process and keep at it. Judy

Venus Envy
05-21-2002, 09:51 AM
Six grandchildren visiting?!??!? No WONDER you leapt at the chance to go out for a run!

I've eased off on running until after the marathon June 2. I jog a little here and there in my walks (6 miles today in 1:26 -- ran less than 1 mile of that), but I don't want to risk any injuries or too much stress on the knees. I've made a commitment to do only half-marathons for July - January so I can concentrate on a walk-to-run strategy and weight loss. I can't wait!

We do the 22-mile training only once in our 5-month sessions. We start out each session at about 6 miles on Saturdays and work our way up to the 22 ... up a couple miles one week, then back down a little ... spend a lot of time at around 12-16 miles. I've really picked up my speed this session -- my Disney marathon was 16.3 minutes a mile, and I'm down to an easy 15-minute mile (over 16 miles or less, anyway; things slow down a bit after mile 16).

Was yoga tough to get into? I know what you mean when you talked about the flexibility issues of middle age ... . Did you start off on your own with yoga, or did you take a class?

JudyMH
05-22-2002, 12:45 AM
Hi kim, They can be a handful sometimes, but I really love taking care of them. Sometimes a friend comes and watches them so I can run, other times I have to drag them to the track with me, a crazy lady running with 3 babies in a double jogging stroller, while the other 3 play in the middle. It's good you vary your miles each time. Your marathon is coming up soon then. You'll know when and if you are ready to run, you are right not to risk injury. I am reading an interesting book about no need for speed. The author suggests just going out and doing it and not to worry about how fast you are running, its nice to know someday my speed will increase,right now I'm slow. I am always glad to hear from you, and I want to know how well your marathon comes out. As far as my yoga is concerned I got me a couple tapes, I never did take a formal class It's not too bad. Well Have a great week, talk to you soon, Judy