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Loriann7
08-27-2008, 12:39 PM
OK, something happened to me a few weeks ago, not sure exactly what..

I used to be the kind that could get up in the morning and eat! And I'd want to eat all day!

But a few weeks ago I found myself not hungry... Yesterday I really didn't eat much..

But this morning I wanted to get myself back on track, eating at regular intervals to try to get through this weight barrier.

Well, I woke up late (for me anyway) at 9:30... I couldn't eat, my stomach is hard as a rock! (I woke up during hte night with sharp pains)... And couldn't eat..

But here it is 12:30 and I just fixed a nice salad with a side of milk...

I'm determined to eat today, during reg. intervals...

Am I the only one that is having a hard time eating now? How are you getting over this? This is something totally new to me! Not being hungry all the time... and the mere thought of food .. well...


uscarchie
08-27-2008, 01:03 PM
Sharp pains as in you need to go to the bathroom? Or sharp pains like someone's stabbing you in the stomach?

If you press hard on your stomach, does it hurt?

If it persists, maybe go to a doctor and get checked out.

Schmoodle
08-27-2008, 01:08 PM
Loriann, appetite suppression is common during and after Ph1, but what you describe sounds like it might be something more - sharp pains, and the thought of food turning your stomach do not sound normal to me. I think you probably want to get it checked out.


Loriann7
08-27-2008, 01:16 PM
Like someone stabbing me.. no, it didn't hurt when I pressed on it...

My stomach is still hard.. feels uncomfortable.

I did manage to eat the salad...

But four weeks of not eating much, My question is ... is it really healthy to eat when your not hungry? I mean, I"m truly over four weeks have had a hard time of getting myself to eat something. Is this normal with this diet?

If it persists into tomorrow I'll call my dr. Even though I have no insurance (being unemployed)... sometimes they work with me and lower the fees. (at least 10 years ago they did when I wasn't insured.

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 01:22 PM
Most cash patients can get out the door with lower fees.

While it isn't healthy to stuff your face when you aren't hungry, you should still be getting enough daily calories. Your body giving signs of hunger actually means that it is too late and your metabolism is slowing....don't wait for a growly tummy to have some food!

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 01:27 PM
Zeff, I haven't been hungry for four weeks! I'm not waiting for the growlies, I'm truly not hungry! And I have been eating, just because I know I need too... Yesterday around noon I had something for lunch, can't recall what that was, and for dinner a can of garbanzo beans (was headed to the store). but that was my entire meals for the day, and I really wasn't hungry when I ate that!

A day or two is alright I suppose, but four weeks? Thats why I'm asking!

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 01:39 PM
Zeff, I haven't been hungry for four weeks! I'm not waiting for the growlies, I'm truly not hungry! And I have been eating, just because I know I need too... Yesterday around noon I had something for lunch, can't recall what that was, and for dinner a can of garbanzo beans (was headed to the store). but that was my entire meals for the day, and I really wasn't hungry when I ate that!

A day or two is alright I suppose, but four weeks? Thats why I'm asking!

I'm doing some checking around.....I don't mean to be invasive, but do you have diarrhea?

mrs dorson
08-27-2008, 01:41 PM
i dont know the answer to the not hungry question.

but i do know from hiding about and lurking but reading....you have had significant stress over the past few weeks.:hug:


stress does weird stuff to us.:?:

and hard, clenched stomach with no hunger sounds like me when i am really scared or worried.:mad:

did you check on webmd or discoveryhealth?

i love those sites for "what is this" questions.

i just hope thing get easier for you!

SOON!:hug:

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 01:42 PM
Nope, no diarrhea! :(... if I had I know I'd be alright! I had a nice bowel last night through the cramps.. and it was nice and hard, but not so hard I couldn't bear it! IE, it was healthy... ok, thats just tmi!!!!!!!


Mrs. Dorson... Nice to make your acquaintance... I thought of the stress factor and was hoping that'd be it... But I'm not so sure. I used to eat during stressful times! Not suppress it!

uscarchie
08-27-2008, 01:46 PM
Also might be depression, causing the low hunger.

But yeah, I'm concerned about your health, so continue to eat as much as you can, and if the doc will make a deal, get yourself checked out.

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 01:47 PM
Have you ever had an issue with your gallbladder or gallstones?

what about a colonoscopy?

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 01:49 PM
NO, I've not had those problems.

The sharp pains aren't there so much right now, but my stomach does feel hard!

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 02:00 PM
You may want to mention gallbladder issues to your GP....I talked to my neighbor (a GP) and searched online and most issues point to something concerning the gallbladder.

my neighbor said that you might want to have a hepatobiliary test. I would assume that it has something to do with the gallbladder...but don't hold me to it ;)

ladybugnessa
08-27-2008, 02:00 PM
i really really really would like you to see a doctor.

just a gut feeling (NO PUN intended)

FOUR WEEKS is a long time...

murphmitch
08-27-2008, 02:04 PM
Women who have even vague symptoms of bloating, abdominal pain, bowel changes, trouble with urination need to be seen by a Dr. A pelvic exam & ultrasound need to be done to rule out stuff. See your Dr.

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 02:05 PM
I've not been in pain for four weeks, the pain started last night!!!!!!!

the not eating has been four weeks! (maybe more?) when your unemployed, one day rolls into the next, and before you know it you have to check the calendar to see what day it is!

ladybugnessa
08-27-2008, 02:08 PM
the lack of appetite for an extended period of time concerns me.

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 02:12 PM
Lori, maybe I'm reading your posts wrong...but we're just trying to help...

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 02:15 PM
Zeff... I wasn't offended and sorry if my post sounded offensive! I only thought Nessa thought I had let abdominal pain go from four weeks! I was only clarifying, that is all.

So sorry all...

And yes, I know you were/are helping,and I'm considering calling the dr. Right now I'm so tired I just want to sleep!!!!!!! but can't.

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 02:25 PM
I was just researching, and sometimes a rupture can cause pains.. the pain has subsided from sharp to like a cramp... you don't suppose the pain could be caused from the fall I took last night do you?

Or perhaps it's something I ate yesterday?

Fat Melanie
08-27-2008, 02:48 PM
Okay, reading your post Loriann, I too thought of gallbladder, and I see how others mentioned it as I continued reading.

For unknown reasons, when I was a healthy 15, I started having sharp pains and then it became progressively worse. I had horrible gallbladder attacks, which of course at the time we did not know were gallbladder attacks. The last attack had me writhing on the floor in absolute pain, so my grandmother took me to the emergency room where I was x-rayed and etc etc, and the doctors determined it was gallstones. I had to have my gallbladder removed. The doctors did not know why a healthy 15 year old had gallbladder stones, but I guess it shows that anyone can have them.

Anyhow, get to a doctor ASAP, whatever it is. It can be quite dangerous if you keep on having those attacks (if it is in fact a gallbladder attack.)

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 02:50 PM
Lori - where is the pain exactly....in your ribs, below the ribs, left or right side, by the ovaries....

uscarchie
08-27-2008, 02:52 PM
It could be your appendix, depending on where it is. Sometimes it ruptures or gets inflamed and it may not be too terribly painful.

Can you call a nurse and ask him/her?

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 02:54 PM
Lower abdomen, just right of the center, in the front.

murphmitch
08-27-2008, 02:54 PM
Many hospitals have nurse help lines that handle these kind of questions. Maybe you have one in your area.

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 02:57 PM
Lower abdomen, just right of the center, in the front.

trying to think of organs in those areas....appendix, intestines (GI problem), female organs....

If it persists much longer or gets more intense....definitely get yourself to the ER....my uncle was in a coma for a month about a year ago because he ignored some piercing pains (MEN!) and it turned out to be a ruptured appendix.

Not to be an alarmist or anything....please don't freak out.

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 02:57 PM
So you all think the lack of appetite has something to do with the pain?

the pain started last night, middle of the night.

The loss of appetite four weeks ago or so.

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 03:01 PM
So you all think the lack of appetite has something to do with the pain?

the pain started last night, middle of the night.

The loss of appetite four weeks ago or so.

It's a symptom of a problem with the gallbladder....

Ruthxxx
08-27-2008, 03:05 PM
I have no idea if the appetite problem has anything to do with the pain but PLEASE call the doctor today.

murphmitch
08-27-2008, 03:06 PM
Most people with GB disease have pain in the right upper quadrant sometimes radiating to the back, have nausea/vomiting or indigestion related to eating fatty foods and have episodes where the pain is intense. It is definitely not something to fool around with because a stone can move out of the GB and into one of the important ducts around the pancreas. There are so many things that abdominal pain could be, it's best not to guess at it and to call your doctor.

ladybugnessa
08-27-2008, 03:14 PM
pain is too low for gb

if it's below belly button could be appendix

if it's around belly button could be ovarian

it might not have anything to do with the lack of appetite.... (anorexia)

Lori,

clearly we all love you and are all insanely worried about you.

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 03:19 PM
nessa, Ovarian makes sense, I had some tumors pulled from there several years ago, and was on the right side! And felt much like this one. But the dr took the tubes where they were attached!

I was gonna see if the pains subsided... sometimes I get these, though it's been months, year?

murphmitch
08-27-2008, 03:22 PM
If your tubes were removed but not your ovaries, you still can have cysts, tumors. I would go to my doctor, especially with your history.

ladybugnessa
08-27-2008, 03:28 PM
could be endometriosis then....

Jenskihere
08-27-2008, 03:29 PM
Sounds EXACTLY like the pain I get from my endometriosis!! While you are on the phone with your doctor, put a heating pad on the area that hurts. That typically helps me!

yoyonomoreinvegas
08-27-2008, 03:40 PM
So you all think the lack of appetite has something to do with the pain?

the pain started last night, middle of the night.

The loss of appetite four weeks ago or so.

If something was starting to go wrong but just wasn't bad enough to cause pain yet it could certainly have effected your appetite. If it's been building up for 4 weeks and is now painful, you need to get looked at as soon as possible. Also, you said you took a fall? Internal bleeding can cause the abdomin to get hard like you are describing. I think you really need to be seen right away - you don't want to wait until it gets to a point where it's critical. (you think a dr. bill is big, you should see what a ride in an ambulance costs ;) )

I sure hope it turns out to be just bad gas or something but you really shouldn't take chances.

Fat Melanie
08-27-2008, 03:55 PM
Most people with GB disease have pain in the right upper quadrant sometimes radiating to the back, have nausea/vomiting or indigestion related to eating fatty foods and have episodes where the pain is intense. It is definitely not something to fool around with because a stone can move out of the GB and into one of the important ducts around the pancreas. There are so many things that abdominal pain could be, it's best not to guess at it and to call your doctor.

Yep, I remember everytime my grandmother would make something fattening, such as ribs for example, I would be violently sick and in horrific pain, when I still had a gallbladder.

Though I did notice however, that while Loriann said she was in pain, she didn't say it was the most horrific pain ever... For me, the gallbladder attacks were the worst pain I've ever felt in my life, (until I went into labor and then I found out what pain was really about). How bad is the pain, Loriann? Does it strike you all at once and hurt for awhile, and then later dissipate and go away, only to return later on? Or is it hurting constantly?

With gallbladder attacks, well in my personal experience anyway, it hurts like crazy for awhile, then it dissipates only to hit you again a few days later or so.

ladybugnessa
08-27-2008, 03:59 PM
FWIW I had a diseased gall bladder and i had pain but my IBS cramps are much worse. everyone is diffeent.

Fat Melanie
08-27-2008, 04:20 PM
I still don't know much about gallbladder stuff, I admit. I don't even know why we have a gallbladder or what it's for (doesn't it store bile or ... something? I don't remember). Mine may have been removed, but I still don't understand why I had stones or why I had such horrible attacks. I didn't know that some people have gallbladder disease and still have their gallbladder. (Doctors don't tell you anything when you're just a kid!) Just thought I would clarify, that was my own personal experience, not everyones. It was unbearable for me, but like Lady Nessa pointed out, everyone is different. (I just assumed.)

So it could still be your gallbladder, or anything, Loriann. Hope you get to a doctor ASAP and tell us what's going on. :) And hopefully everything is fine.

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 04:44 PM
the gallbladder is a little sac underneath the liver that stores and secretes bile (used in digestion). Bile is produced by the liver, so it is ok to not have one...but not having one will cause digestive tract complications.

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 05:01 PM
I called the Dr. and am going to wait it out over night, if the pain gets worse, or I start vomiting of fever develops, I'm going in. My mouth has been getting that watery feeling since she asked that, so I think (or am hoping) thats just suggestive rather than about to vomit!

I REALLY don't think I can eat tonight though.. Will venture in to try to figure something out.

murphmitch
08-27-2008, 05:04 PM
the gallbladder is a little sac underneath the liver that stores and secretes bile (used in digestion). Bile is produced by the liver, so it is ok to not have one...but not having one will cause digestive tract complications.

And the textbook patient is female, fat & forty! Sorry, but that's what they teach you in school. Stones actually get worse with rapid weight loss. It also runs in families.

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 06:23 PM
Thought I'd let you know... I am Headed too doctors, they are working tonight. will update on return. Feeling light headed, and stomach is still in knots.

zeffryn
08-27-2008, 06:27 PM
And the textbook patient is female, fat & forty! Sorry, but that's what they teach you in school. Stones actually get worse with rapid weight loss. It also runs in families.

um....ok? I was simply explaining to Mel what a gallbladder was...

Loriann7
08-27-2008, 07:42 PM
Back from the Drs for a second to let dog out. They sent me to the ER, she's afraid it MAY (not sure) be my appendix.

that, and she's not impressed with Blood pressure! 164/104 which for me is low! NOt sure what her deal is today!

I'll update you when I know more

murphmitch
08-27-2008, 09:37 PM
Best wishes that you're feeling better soon! :getwell:

ladybugnessa
08-27-2008, 09:47 PM
oh wow good wishes thoughts and vibes... keep us posted

CyndiM
08-27-2008, 10:04 PM
:crossed: that things look up right away! :hug:

Fat Melanie
08-27-2008, 11:34 PM
the gallbladder is a little sac underneath the liver that stores and secretes bile (used in digestion). Bile is produced by the liver, so it is ok to not have one...but not having one will cause digestive tract complications.

That's messed up, they didn't tell me that. Now I feel like making a doctor's appointment to see if I'm being internally screwed up from digestive tract complications.

Doctors don't tell people s***. :rolleyes:

And the textbook patient is female, fat & forty! Sorry, but that's what they teach you in school. Stones actually get worse with rapid weight loss. It also runs in families.

Yep, the doctor did say that usually the patients were a lot older than I was and also a lot fatter. I was 15 and thin. Still to this day do not know how I managed to get gallstones.

Anyway, enough of my rambling about my gallbladder or lack of one!
LORIANN, I am hoping everything turns out fine and that you will post ASAP to let us know if you are okay. Wish you the best. :D

Loriann7
08-28-2008, 02:23 AM
So after spending over six hours in the ER, I came home non the wiser as to the cause of pain. They did a CT scan, and anyone familiar with those can vouch for the uncomfortableness of it. That ruled out appendicitis. So for six hours I was deprived of water! I didn't mind not eating, stil not hungry and all I ate all day was a salad at 1230...

There was a lot of blood in the urine, so the dr thinks either I burst a cist in the fall, or there might be some bruising internally, or a kidney stone.

Anyway, I'll tell ya more sometime tomorrow, I'm tired.

pamatga
08-28-2008, 08:22 AM
I too was one of those that went on a quick weight lose program, got gallstones from the rapid weight lose and then ended up having horrific (and anyone who has had one knows what I mean) gall bladder attacks for a year before my doctor took me seriously enough to do an ultrasound. I had my gall bladder removed. I will say that I rarely get hearburn or indigestion any more but I was also told you can still get stones even if it is removed! Yikes!

I don't think I am going to have to worry about losing weight too fast---lol--so I think I am safe there.

So sorry to hear what you went through but I (and others) have been there.

Take care.:hug:

beachgal
08-28-2008, 10:09 AM
:hug: Hope you're feeling much better soon, Loriann, and learn more about what's wrong! :(

uscarchie
08-28-2008, 10:26 AM
Hope you're feeling better too! The cist thing makes sense, esp. with the blood in the urine.

Take care of yourself, and give Jade a pat.

Fat Melanie
08-28-2008, 05:19 PM
Hope everything is okay Loriann, keep us posted. :D :balloons:

murphmitch
08-28-2008, 05:24 PM
So relieved that it's not something more serious and hoping you feel better soon!

Loriann7
08-29-2008, 04:14 PM
OK, I thought I should of waited overnight before going in the other night, I only went due to the blood in urine and feeling light headed, and sick.

Two weeks ago I had all the symptoms of period (except bleeding) which is normal for PCOS and thats why I didn't think it was my TOM... cause it's not.

When I took the fall the night before the pain, I burst open a cyst! Thats why the sharp pain! The cramps didn't feel, don't feel, like pms cramps, but today I'm menstruating!

So, I racked up a HUGE er bill, for them to tell me "don't know"... to find out I was right in a burst cyst!

:(.

zeffryn
08-29-2008, 04:31 PM
Mel - one can also have gallbladder issues due to a poor diet, not drinking enough water, etc.

A friend of ours is 27 and has HORRIBLE gallstones all the time because of his poor diet. Otherwise, he's thin and in rather good shape.

Also, a patient's responsibility should be to be informed about whatever procedure they have done. Google provides a wealth of information.

"Complications" might be something as minor as gas, bloating and minor cramping as well. It doesn't always signal something severe.

zeffryn
08-29-2008, 04:32 PM
Geez, Lori. I hope you feel better..... :)

Loriann7
08-29-2008, 07:25 PM
ok, back to the topic, not eating! (thanks for advice on pain and med attention)

OK, so I did my best today, how's this look (remember, still not hungry)

Breakfast... egg "muffin" with bacon, onion, grn pepper, and topped with cheese, v8

Snack, 1/4 string cheese (if that) wasn't hungry so was using to train Jade! :)

Lunch, small piece of meatloaf (mama w's), small side of string beans, milk

dinner small salad with tomato, handful of chick peas, mushrooms tomatoes, and a handful of cheese, with milk