Support Groups - "Every-Day" 21-Day Challenge -- Simple addition spells success!!

08-23-2008, 11:01 PM
Okay, everyone, as is the tradition, I start a new thread when I personally start a new challenge.

Below is a short explanation of how this challenge works so all you newcomers can take a look and decide if you're game or not! I hope you are! Hop aboard and enjoy the ride. We've got a great bunch of supportive people, so I hope you'll give us a try. A lot of people try for a while and then disappear.. I hope some of you will keep trying. There is NO shame in starting over. Remember, it's not over till you give up. And our motto around here is:

NEVER GIVE UP!!...Just start OVER!!


It works like this: you decide you'll do something for 21 days straight, every single day, so keep it doable. Then you count through 21.....and if you flub it, you MUST go back to zero and start over again. Everyone will be on different days. You can start anytime. At the beginning of the challenge you declare what level it is -- Level 1, 2, or 3. Level 1 means you feel it's a relatively easy challenge for you and means you only give yourself ONE pause day (see explanation of pause days below). Level 2 would give you two pause days and so on...
And taking NO pause days is what I'm going to call "aceing a challenge," as in "I'm aiming on aceing this one!" Yowzah!! :cb:

With a pause day you pause in your counting and continue the next day with the number you left off with. Pause days are NOT substitutes for days, i.e. Day 12 -- Day 13 -- Pause Day -- Day 14..... I suggest taking a pause day late in the game (better to go back to Day 1 early on) if you need a break or screw up when you're well into the challenge, meaning, when you're on Day 15 or something like that.

In any case, the trick is to keep going. The momentum builds and it's great incentive to stick to your guns, cause if you don't.........back to START you go. :( And the really great thing about this challenge is that you are forming new habits that will wipe out the old! AND, you get to do it with a great bunch of really supportive people to whom you are accountable! :grouphug:


In the interest of maintaining structure, a sense of solidarity and facilitating support I ask anyone who wishes to join this thread to please strive to follow the following guidelines while participating in this challenge and in posting.

1. Although this is a fabulous support group, the focus is to be on your CHALLENGE/S and/or other people's challenge/s AND weight loss, whether your challenge is about it or not. Please keep the challenge a priority, although we welcome chattiness! :lol: This means tell us what day you're on when you post and it's a good idea to make regular mention of just what your challenge is. This an action-based thread. Our members are ON a challenge, RESTARTING a challenge, or just in between and looking to start up again REAL SOON. ;) We also welcome posts from admirers, encouragers, and old friends!

2. Please refrain from posting food logs or recipes, except where you are really looking for help and advice on your eating. If journaling is your challenge, please keep the journaling off the thread and in a notebook or blog and just tell us if you've done what you set out to do. We have ALL types of dieters here, low-carb, high-carb, low-fat, high-fat, vegetarians, meat-lovers...please use simple mentions if you have something you want to share and then links and/or private messages to do so.

3. Please do NOT go into glowing accounts of any slipups, food indulgences or binges, what we here call "food porn." Simple mentions are fine, but use of smilies :censored: :tape: etc. as substitutes where possible is encouraged.

4. Please keep this a secular thread. Of course, passing references to your beliefs, a bit of introduction about your beliefs, brief faith-related words of encouragement are fine. :angel:

5. Please show support, support, support! This is key. :grouphug: You can waffle on about yourself but please, at least occasionally,come up and look around at others and what they are doing and MENTION it with words of encouragement and/or praise or sympathy. We understand "busy," poor computer connections, and bouts of self-pity and life problems where the focus turns to "me" and dealing with those problems, but these should be temporary, not a habit! ('cept in the computer case.)

In conclusion, let me say, the above are just that, GUIDELINES. Please realize that these guidelines have been added in an attempt to keep this a supportive and beneficial thread, at the LEAST, to those who need it MOST, those for whom weight loss is the hardest and, more often than not, the most crucial as well as for those who still, perhaps despite great success, know all too well that the road they walk will always be a slippery one. :^:

The guidelines are also meant to cultivate an atmosphere of consideration and concern for ALL, not individually, but AS A GROUP.

Well, all's said. Please join us!! :wave:

08-23-2008, 11:06 PM
Heh there. I just realized I hadn't started a new thread when I finished my no sugar challenge! ((((cheer))). So here you are!!!
Let's make it work!!! :dancer: :dancer: :dancer:

mountain mama
08-23-2008, 11:18 PM
oh fun! I like starting new things :)
And congrats again on your no sugar Challenge!

I'm going to think about a new challenge to start and jump on on it tomorrow :)

08-24-2008, 01:18 AM
Good to see you, faux! And thanks for the congrats! I'm going to just ignore my two-day binge. I mean, heck, it was kinda fun and as long as I get right back on track (and then some!!) my body should just take it! Yeah!

By the way, were you in between challenges? I think so, right?

Anyhow, for anyone who wants a quick look back at recent posts, here's the last thread. You'll have to click on the last page.

08-24-2008, 01:36 AM
Red - congrats on finishing your challenge!

Hi All

I'm totally nuts. I went away for the weekend to a friend's house to avoid hosting my in-laws (my DH is away - remember? he wanted my in-laws to come WHILE HE WAS AWAY- AARGH) The only way I could get out of it was by not being here. Sheesh - I need to learn to be more assertive.

On Friday I was totally stressed - I don't usually work on Fridays and it's my day to sleep, but I had to go to work and then get home and deal with all the kids and go to my friend's house (no CAR!!) and I was sooooo stressed out that I ate 3 chocolate bars!!! Okay - they were mini ones - but I haven't touched that kind of stuff for 12 weeks! And it was all downhill from there.. Overate Friday night, had junk this morning, Heck - I need some support. I'm so frustrated. I thought while my DH was away -I'd have some time to get the house together and maybe even a day or 2 to myself in the morning - to just laze around. I need a break so badly. And when he's here - he's unemployed and always in the house and makes me nuts. But my schedule at work is so hectic for these days while he's gone that there's no chance for anything of the sort.
Sorry for the vent - hope today is better......

1 - talk to each of the kids every day (not just orders...) - 3 pauses
2 - do 1 nice thing a day for me - 3 pauses
3 - eat in control - 3 pauses

let's see how is goes.

08-24-2008, 02:32 AM
miriam -- From where I stand (dangerously close to the edge of the train platform) your little binge looks harmless. Three mini bars is but a tiny fraction of what I vacuumed into my mouth over the past two days.
Still, I feel for you!! Things, as you surely know, RARELY go to plan. It sounds like you are very upset about that and turning to junk to compensate. Sounds VERY familiar! :yes: My advice in these situations is to figuratively cut the ties between expectations and reality. Just tune out the frustrating thoughts of "not fair!" like you would the cry of a baby (on a good day) and take deep breaths and kind of pleasantly zombie out. Is there any chance you can take off work and GO somewhere and just zone out? I would try to, to help you get some distance. Your home situation does not sound too good. Is there anything you can do to get your husband's help? You say it's hard for you to be assertive but maybe you can sit down and discuss how you feel. Or write a letter to your husband in which you suggest some ways to alleviate what you're feeling. Well, I don't know. All I can say is I wish you some breathing space!

Just bringing this over from the old thread....

Where I stand on Sunday (not including Sunday)


Stay tuned....


No booze 4 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 4 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 5 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 0 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 4 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-24-2008, 10:08 AM
Heh all. I hope more people find us over here! :wave: I had an excellent day today. That was easy though, relatively, as I stayed home all day. BUT, I then decided to go to the gym and that involves a 50-min walk. I got over halfway and decided to turn away and go home. I turned around, walked a few steps and stopped to read some sign (and contemplate...) THEN, I turned back direction gym and got there!! Did some weights and ab work. Hurrah!! It was weird. I had felt REALLY bad, thus the intention to turn around and go home, but after I pushed on I got this second wind. It was truly bizarre. Walking home was harder but I listened to my Cantonese language tapes and learned how to say things like, "I want something to eat," and "Where do you want to go eat?" Time passed quickly!
Well, back to the uncertainly and anxiety of the office tomorrow...... :eek:

And voila! Below are yet more new challenges!!! Call me megared! :dance:

Where I stand on Sunday (including Sunday)


No sugar 1 day completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 1 day completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 0 days complete/no pauses


No booze 5 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 5 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 6 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 1 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 5 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 1 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-24-2008, 11:48 AM
I just thought I'd like to pop in and introduce myself, list my goals. I'm starting South Beach tomorrow, so I thought I'd use the 21-Day thing to support it (and vice-versa).

I'm 53, struggling with weight off and on from the time I was about 12. Not always overweight, even if I thought I was. I joined 3FC in 2000, I think, as Babette, at 231. In that time, I've gotten down to about 195 and bounced up as high as 256. I've reached the point where I'm ready to shed my fat cocoon and live life large, if in a smaller body.

I'm going to call this a Level 2. Hope to ace it but ... stuff happens. But, as Fearless Leader RB points out, when it does, we just start over. Or pause, if we've got that option.

Here's my plan of attack:

At least 10,000 steps a day (I've been doing about that many for a couple months)

South Beach

3L water a day

Either yoga or tai chi daily (ideally, both)

Daily meditation

Daily weigh-in

Daily report

8-10 servings fruit/veggies

Redballoon, I think I know you from some long-ago thread, don't I? Were you in Germany then?

K, Challengers, let's take this day and ace it!

mountain mama
08-24-2008, 12:04 PM
I want to use this challenge to start something new. I just can't think of something new that I'm ready to do... hehe

I will have a plan by tonite. I need tos tart fresh because I had too many challenges last time and I had to throw this one out. I will have it figured out by tonite!! hehe

08-24-2008, 12:26 PM
Hi Red! Welcome Mirabella!

Miriam: I've been having that kinda of couple of days as well. Stressed again all of a sudden, wanting to eat everything bad for me, not feeling like exercising. My DH is having a very stressful time of it with a business deal gone bad and possible lawsuit on his (our) head, and I just want to forget about this "silly" project of mine and go stuff my face.

But, I won't. What is my saving grace, truly, is my trainer. If I didn't have a standing appointment with her, I'd probably fall off the wagon. I met with her Friday, but did nothing Saturday. I wanted a burger and fries and thick shake at this local drive-in so badly it was very hard to resist, But I convinced DH to go to a local vegetarian restaurant and I had a BocaBurger and organic potatoes wedges which I shared with DH and just an iced tea, and I felt satisfied!!

It didn't stop me from coming home and making scones and inhaling 3 of them. This was after I had yogurt and fruit in an attempt to stop me doing that.

Anyway, I ate a little more off plan yesterday, but actually feel better today and more committed to this. I won't give up!


Exercise everyday, even just a walk: 3 pauses (I'm just starting over on this one)
No alcohol: Day 4 (3 pauses--leaving for Vegas in 3 days!)

Food journal not a challenge, so I will substitute:

No processed food: 3 pauses----for me, this means nothing out of a package that sits on a shelf, with preservatives. No granola bars, sugar free mints, 100 calorie packs, reduced fat Wheat Thins, even no rice cakes. And no frozen treats. This does not include the yogurt, or the whole grain organic bread I buy, or cans of stuff I use to make dinners, etc. I will know what I mean. Basically junk food. I am trying to wean myself off of all of that. I need to eat fruit or baby carrots if I want to snack.

This one could be a tough one

mountain mama
08-24-2008, 10:37 PM
OK, I have finally figured out my challenges:

1) No snacks after dinner (i've been doing okay with that but wanna make it be written down so i'm totally accountable) 2 pauses

2) Work everyday on the 100 pushup challenge 3 pauses

3) Drink 2 cups of water before, during and after every meal and snack. 2 pauses

08-25-2008, 09:04 AM
fauxtini -- Your challenges sound great! I like the "work every day" pushup one. Putting in the effort and working toward a goal is what it's all about. Good luck! :goodluck:

Mod -- Hope your day was a little less stressed. Ooh, sounds tough, but NO, your project is far from "silly!!!!" :nono: My gosh, it's about YOU!!! Stuffing solves NOTHING. Remember it!! What a good idea to have a trainer. And your eating save is incredible. Be careful not to tempt us with too much description. :censored: That is, on the stuff you resisted. :lol: Yes, I think your challenges are tough and a LOT like mine! ;) You can do it. Power to you! :strong:

Arabella -- Welcome back!! :welcome3: Yes, of course you know me. We used to do this thread together back when YOU were starting them and before you Amarantha (sp?) You got tired of it and I took over or something like that. No, I've been in Tokyo the whole time, but used to live in Munich. Good memory. Well, though you "bounced back up" you're looking good, still far under your high and not that far from your low. Good work and it looks like you're determined again. Best of luck!! :yes:

Others?! :listen: How are we? Apple, Fish, miriam, ilani, CB, marti?? Come on down!!


08-25-2008, 12:51 PM
Haha can't even start day 1 yet - I'm a mess
I odn't know how things are going to change, I really don't.
I'm going away tomorrow for 3 days to my sister's house with my kids and parents, DH and stepkids are back on Friday - school starts on Monday, If I can make it to Monday - believe me - I've won every challenge in the book

Apple Blossom
08-25-2008, 03:29 PM
Well, with out going too deep into it, I'm restarting today. :shrug:
Good thing we have a new thread and a fresh start.
30 min exercise
No beer
still looking for one more diet related challenge.....
Hi everyone!

mountain mama
08-25-2008, 03:59 PM
I'm updating and finalizing my challenges:

OK, I have finally figured out my challenges:

1) No snacks after dinner (i've been doing okay with that but wanna make it be written down so i'm totally accountable) 2 pauses

2) Work everyday on either the 100 pushup challenge or the couch to 5k challenge or both! 3 pauses

3) Drink 2 cups of water before, during and after every meal and snack. 2 pauses

SO far so good! I have completed both of my workout challenges and drank the right amount of water with each meal. so far so good!!

08-25-2008, 05:17 PM
Where I stand on Tuesday (not including Tuesday)


No sugar 2 day completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 2 day completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 1 day complete/no pauses


No booze 6 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 6 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 7 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 2 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 6 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 2 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-26-2008, 08:39 AM
Wow. I thought i had posted on the new thread. Guess not, huh?

Hi everyone. Well, insanity has officially started. Orientation for Law School began last night. Will take me a little while to get in the swing of things, so I apologize if I am not on here regular for a bit.

This morning the scale said 200. 200 :fr: I couldn't believe it. :cb: Woo hoo. This is amazing. I just need to keep going, and not sidetrack myself due to busy and overtired. The cool thing is that even though I was having cravings yesterday due to lack of sleep etc, I was listening to the voice saying "No, you need water not soda. No, you need to munch on some veggies, not McD's" And the new pants I bought last week, that I felt really uncomfortable about because I thought there was some "camel toe" issues? The slipped on like a dream this morning.

Good luck with all ongoing and new challenges. Will try to read and catch up with each of you soon, but have patience :D Have a great day! :wave:

mountain mama
08-26-2008, 11:26 AM
Not related to health But in other news.. I got the CALL! I am headed to montreal TOMORROW for my marriage visa interview! I will get to marry my Fiance ( on paper) before he is deployed! Miracles do happen! I will be busy for the next few weeks but hope to be online as much as I can. I want to stay on plan while im going through all of this of course.

In the next few weeks I will be traveling to montreal, New York, kansas and kentucky, finding apartments, GETTING MARRIED, changing my name, and spending every momemnt with my hubby to be before he is deployed! WOW. Once im settled I will have AMPLE 3FC time tho until I get a visa to work. Crazyness lies ahead.. but im excited/nervous. Who would have thought id have to have an interview with the govt to be allowed to marry an american?!

08-26-2008, 11:54 AM
Fly-by report:

Day 2. Met all challenges yesterday, despite :devil: that said "Why not have a glass of wine and redo Day 1 tomorrow?" I did tai chi, meditated instead.

Nevertheless, 213.2 this a.m. for no good reason. :rolleyes:

08-26-2008, 12:42 PM
Sorry Red about the food descriptions--I got carried away there for a minute!
Well today back on track, motivated after a spotty week-end. Going to spin class now. Will catch up with everyone in more detail later.....

WTG Faux! Congrats! (I posted more elsewhere)

Congrats also to Jolly--madness sometimes helps things, huh? Now push through that barrier like I recently did--no looking back.....

Yay! Arabella, such discipline! It will show effects later, I'm sure.

Hang in there miriam--you will find new motivation soon, I'm sure.

Good attitude Apple! Here's joining ya......

08-26-2008, 09:59 PM
Where I stand on Wednesday (not including Wednesday)


No sugar 3 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 3 days completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 2 days complete/no pauses


No booze 7 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 7 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 8 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 3 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 7 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 3 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

No time to write now. Will write later! :wave: fauxtini, great news!!! :dance:

08-26-2008, 11:11 PM
Evening All!!
I haven't been on here since the end of last year. I was doing so well, but then life took a turn and my efforts got put on the back burner.
But I'm back in full force now!!

Personal Challenges:
Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
Gym 6 Days a week - no pauses

Good Luck to you all!!!

08-27-2008, 09:28 AM
Well, I'm plugging along, feeling really sorry for myself and depressed and yet somewhat hopeful...I wonder why being healthy, eating really well and not putting junk into our bodies is SO hard in the Western world. I mean, the garbage is EVERYWHERE and people think it's so weird to be trying not to reach for it. Sigh. Even if I were to become a real health nut and in wondeful shape, I don't want to get satisfaction from comparing myself to others though and thinking stuff like..."Oh, wow, she looks old for her age," or "wow, bad skin" or "get a load of that beer gut" ... all things people could say or could have said about me at various points in my life. Sigh. I guess I will just have to embrace this lifestyle and the commitment to it and try to take part in it as much as possible without compromising that commitment. Tough stuff, but I have made tremendous progress with the no drinking...the idea of going to a bar with a buddy who drinks pints with burgeoning gusto and me sitting there drinking hot oolong that borders on the obscene!!! :rofl:


beachluvr -- Welcome back! :welcome: Hope to see you in here a lot! :yes: Gym challenge doesn't fit the parameters, so just take a pause a week and you got it! But, my oh my, no smoking and a diet challenge. Those are tough! Best of luck to you! :strong:

Arabella -- Good work! :sunny:

modcat -- Heh, no worries on the food porn! :lol: Oh, AND by the way...I wandered over to the mini-goal section to find some inspiration and did I find some!! You, looking utterly fantastic! Wow! :eek: Major congratulations to you. :congrat: And where are you expecting to find 45 lbs to lose still?! :?: I sure wish I could get as good-looking as you so I could post some photos. Right now, all I ever dare to show people are face shots because my face has always been thin(nish). I have some photos that I dare not look at (I peeked once and that was enough) of me on my horse and I will use that as my before shots when I get down to my lean, sleek self. Again though, you look fab, years younger and majorily happy! So....tell us about the cabana boy.... :lol3:

faux -- So, you must be so excited!! :dance: Does having an interview mean pretty sure you'll get the visa? I sure hope so. Well, you sound like you're going to be super busy but I do hope you'll keep up with us. I'd miss you if you didn't! :(

jolly -- There you are! Insanity starting?! Oh, my!! :eek: BUT, 200 on the scale!!! Hurrah!!! :bravo: Great stuff, great stuff!! And what a bunch of saves, water over soda and veggies over Mac's!! Kudos to you! :cheer2:

Apple, miriam, do we have liftoff yet? :listen:

08-27-2008, 12:37 PM
Well, just checking in before leaving to that den of inequity some call Las Vegas. I have some new mini-challenges for the next 5 days to get through without completely falling off the wagon. As I am on my 7th day straight without any alcohol BUT gave myself 3 pauses, and will be there 4 nights, I hope to go at least one night with NO alcohol so I don't have to restart. I can resist during the day, it's the evenings out that will be tough.


I hope to go to the gym to exercise every morning, and eat sparingly and healthfully for breakfast and lunch so I can enjoy my dinners at some good restaurants.

Where I stand:

No booze: completed 6 days (3 pauses left)
No processed junk food snacks: completed 3 days (2 pauses left)
exercise/walk everyday: completed 3 days (2 pauses left)

Red: aw, thanks for your compliments, and your kind words.:thanks:
Yep. I'm still considered obese and still hovering between 30 and 31 BMI. (or is it body fat index?) Notice I show no pics of my lower self in shorts, and try to hide my fat arms as best as possible. I have always had heavier hips/thighs, and more bottom heavy. Now what boobs I have are rapidly shrinking, :( oh well. I'd much rather be able to wear shorts and feel like I can go into any store and buy cute stuff than have boobs (maybe my hubby doesn't agree, lol!) At least my face is beginning to find it's neck again, in a good way, I mean!

beachluvr: welcome (I guess welcome back--but I wasn't here then!) You sound like you have good challenges to shoot for. Glad to hear your life is more back to normal?

BTW Red, I'm sure you are a lot harder on yourself and the way you look than you need to be. Most of us are. But then again, that is what is great about the internet--you can be fairly anonymous and it doesn't matter.

I think you gotta do whatever you feel comfortable with. I resisted putting up pics for only a few weeks, and did it b/c I needed to own up to myself how bad I'd gotten, and also, needed a selfish feel-good that day, b/c I knew my weight loss was beginning to show and I needed someone to notice and some nice comments. (I received a lot more than I expected--it was so nice, and needed!) As I am fairly new to California, I don't know many people and haven't seen any old friends or family in a long while to notice. My brother and his wife are coming in a week--can you believe these are the first visitors from my side in the nearly two years I've been here? (Although I have visited family about three times in the last two years, but I was fatter than I am now).

Anyway, gotta run and finish packing, leaving in 4 hours--hope to check in on the 31st, if not before.......

08-27-2008, 02:31 PM
HI all. I had to pop in quick on lunch, and post. i had a close shave here. Been feeling like i was doing really good. Making progress. Not losing my mind :fr: Well, today cravings struck. I know it is triggered by lack of sleep - that still is my worst trigger. I had two forms of :censored: And then I was all prepped to "blow" the rest of the day. despite the fact I run tonight, and the scale this morning was BELOW 200. Actually, that might have been a subconscious part of the trigger. I am almost able to officially announce that I am out of the 200's for the first time in 15 years. . .

Good news is that I was able to pop some gum, get busy with work stuff (and let me tell you, with everything going on and a vacation coming up, there is tons of work stuff), and then sat down to my healthy lunch. I had about 700 calories I didn't need, but it could have been worse.

Have a good day all.

08-27-2008, 07:26 PM
Feeling so bummed. My weight is way up again and I've been so good. It's always like this. I just can't seem to lose weight. Something has got to be wrong with me. It all adds to the stress. If I could say, well, I'm doing this so that's the reason for my not losing weight or something, anything I could lay the blame on, then fine, but I really can't see it and I'm so sick of it. The other day I kept running to the loo and thought I'd see a weight loss but barely and then today my weight is way up again and I didn't even eat salty stuff and of course I'm on no sugar and no booze so it's not easy. Sigh. Will I ever be able to break out of these chains?

Where I stand on Thursday (not including Thursday)


No sugar 4 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 4 days completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 3 days complete/no pauses


No booze 8 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 8 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 9 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 4 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 8 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 4 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)


jolly -- It sounds like you are having a "good anxiety" attack. I do this too, though not recently because I haven't had the weight loss recently.. ;) Whenever things start to look up or I have something good happen, I get all excited inside and that has the same effect as something bad happening. I turn to food. I don't think it's fear of success or fear of looking good. No, it's nothing so eclectic. It's simply...things like this don't happen too often, so when they do, they send me for a loop. Your getting under 200 for the first time in 15 years!!! Wow!!! is huge and surely getting you all churned up inside, even if it's a good thing. So, please be careful. Deep breaths. Calm. Try to sit quietly, meditate a can do that don't have to sit cross-legged in yoga tights with incense burning...and just say, "I'm going to get through this quietly and calmly and with an inner peaceful joy" .....or something like that! Good luck! :goodluck:

mod -- Have a great time in Vegas! Yes, you can do without the alcohol for a night. You can. You can! Just focus on something else. Just order drinks without alcohol so you don't feel left out. People don't care. Or order a cocktail without the alcohol and don't worry if the bartender thinks you're nuts. You can do it on the sly if the people you're with want you to drink. I find that so often people don't like to drink alone. I am like that. Fortunately, I have drinking buddies who don't care if I'm drinking or not as long as they can! :lol: And, you are NOT obese! So please stop with the put-downs. You are so cute and really look good. As for photos of me, it's not that I hate how I am now. I mean, it's not that bad, well, maybe it's just because I've been like this for sooo long that I've gotten used to it. The thing is, I haven't lost enough weight to feel good enough about the difference. It's not really visible to people I think and I want to wow people with some super pics like yours!! Hope to hear from you soon!

Shy Moment
08-27-2008, 09:36 PM
Just wanted to stop in and say hi and give encouragement to everyone. I have been eating right but not getting much exercise because of the knee.

08-27-2008, 10:23 PM
Evening Everyone!

Thanks for the info red. That does make more sense.

Have fun in Vegas Mod!

I had a great day, completed all three challenges. Hope everyone is doing well.

Personal Challenges: Day 1 Complete :cp:
Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

I've also signed up for the Miracle Mile Walk October 18th. It's a 3 mile walk to benefit breast cancer! :running: As of today I'm only walking 2.2 miles, so I have a bit to go. I just need some fund raising ideas.

08-28-2008, 07:02 AM
210.6. Doing well with food and exercise but didn't meditate yesterday and didn't report in, so... here I am. Scale's budging a bit but I was 207 a few weeks ago and thought that these pounds up were temporary and would go in a whoosh. Still waiting on the whoosh fairy...

Beachluvr, fundraising is the hard part, isn't it! I'd rather just make a donation and do my walk or run. :rolleyes: In Canada, the big Breast Cancer fundraising run/walk is so aggressive about it that I just don't even want to do it. It makes you feel like if you're not personally responsible for thousands of dollars your effort isn't appreciated. I prefer the "every bit counts" approach.

Shymoment, hope the knee gets better soon!

RB, hang in there! Days like that come and go. As long as we put in the effort, it will work. Sometimes just seems to take a while. Plus, off booze and cigs at the same time? :eek: That's gotta be hard. You're doing great! :encore:

Jollygirl, wow, under 200! :woohoo: I'm with you on the fatigue thing (no wonder it contains the word "fat"). If I was always well rested, I don't think I ever would have gained so much. So here's to sleep! :yawn:

modcat, have fun in Vegas -- and BEHAVE! :lol:

Let's get out there and make this a good one!

08-28-2008, 01:12 PM
Hey all. Quick fly by. I am such a geek, but I had to get my space organized how I wanted it, before i could start studying. I spent way too long with that. Good news is that I finally got my router to work. I called tech support, and the guy was GREAT walking me through it. I guess they get non techies like me all the time. :lol:

Not official until Saturday, but the scale was at 198 today. The run last night, and moving furniture like crazy burned off the oops I guess. I can't even wrap my mind around that. 198 :fr:

So, sorry so quick. Hello to everyone. Keep up the great, but hard, work. i have to finish going through orientation materials, then STUDY

08-28-2008, 08:52 PM
What I find hard to believe is looking at this tally, it has only been FIVE friggin' days since I was off sugar, yet it feels like months. Every day I resist sweets sitting in front of me and wonder just what for...ah well, I wish I knew really...I wish I knew.

Where I stand on Friday (not including Friday)


No sugar 5 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 5 days completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 4 days complete/no pauses


No booze 9 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 9 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 10 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 5 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 9 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 5 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-28-2008, 11:08 PM
Arabella, you're right. I think I may go that route. I don't feel comfortable asking strangers for money, and I hate for my friends and family to feel obligated.

Jolly, such wonderful news! I can only imagine how exciting it is to get down to the 100's again. Hopefully I'll be there with you in a couple of months. What are you going to school for?

Hi red, congrats on the no smoking! I so understand how hard it is. I'm basically having to come home every night and go to bed. I'm even kinda of avoiding a good friend at the moment cause she smokes. It's just too tempting! Sad, I know.

Today was tough. And It's only day 2!!! I have a pain in the ball of my foot when I'm on the treadmill. Most likely from shoes I wear at work. But I pushed through.

Hope all you girls are doing well!

Personal Challenges: Day 2 Complete
Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

08-29-2008, 10:51 PM
Hi ladies!!!
Hope everyone one had a good day.
Tomorrow is going to be a tuffy. Football season is here which means lots of munchies and drinks. I figure if I can make it through this weekend, I can take over the world!!! :jig:

Hope everyone has a great weekend!

Personal Challenges: Day 3 Complete
Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

08-30-2008, 10:25 AM
Where I stand on Saturday (not including Saturday)


No sugar 6 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 6 days completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 5 days complete/no pauses


No booze 10 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 10 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 11 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 6 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 10 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 6 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-30-2008, 06:05 PM
Where I stand on Sunday (not including Sunday)


No sugar 7 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 7 days completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 6 days complete/no pauses


No booze 11 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 11 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 12 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 7 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 11 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 7 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-30-2008, 10:10 PM
Hey all. Beachlover, I started law school last week. Need to get back in the study habit, as I got my undergrad 15 years ago.

Well, I did my 1/2 marathon today. Tough. But I got 'r' done! I did not meet my goal of 192 by the race, but 198 is still pretty good. I need to set a new goal for myself. . .

Well, I need to get some sleep here. I will try to type more tomorrow. Good luck to all.

08-31-2008, 08:33 AM
Hi all. Plugging along here.
Reading "Confessions of a Carb Queen" by Susan Blech and I'm finding it captivating.
It's dredging up a lot of bad memories though, things from my teen years, when eating got out of control big time. Sigh.
On the other hand, now that I'm on the part where she's losing weight, I'm finding it inspiring. So much so, that I actually did a bit of cleaning in my room, which to put it mildly. I've been soooo depressed, nothing gets done. I come home and sit there trying to forget my life. Not good. Got to make changes. Blech's book may help
By the way, for any of you others looking for a bit of inspiration. Here is a good interview with Blech. It's not about the book, but about her life now.

This site itself looks great, all sorts of inspiring people. Just click back to the main page.

Shy -- How are you doing? I hope your knee is better. Thanks for stopping in and saying heh.

jolly -- Congrats on the marathon!! :encore: But what is "r?" And, heh, major kudos for breaking into onederland!! 72 lbs! :cp: WOW!! :bravo:

beach -- How's the football weekend turning out? Tell me when the Steelers are nearing the Super Bowl. :lol: You can stay away from the munchies! Remember, it's not you out there playing! ;) Heh, and good going on your challenges. I didn't realize you were doing no smoking too. Keep it up! :yes:

Arabella -- Thanks for the support. How are you doing?That woosh fairy should be around any time now! :sunny:

08-31-2008, 11:41 AM
Half marathon, Red, half - but thanks! 'r', well Git 'r' done is cowboy speak out here. For get her done, or to steal from Nike, just do it. i am glad the book is helping. Sometimes it is all a matter of finding the right resources at the right time.

I overdid it this morning, and feel sick now. The whole idea of a "free" day has to go.
Have a good day all.

08-31-2008, 01:51 PM
Hi everyone,

I've been totally, utterly, unforgivably off the wagon and I can't seem to get my sorry fat a$$ back on. I went totally sugar and garbage crazy while my husband and stepkids were away from STRESS STRESS STRESS and now they're back and it's more STRESS STRESS STRESS.. While they were away I spent 2 days with my sister's family and parents at my sister's house and I'm so proud of myself - I was supposed to be there for another day and I came down the night before and siad that I wanted to go home. <y kids were miserbale, I was miserable, and I wanted a good hour or 2 in my house before my husband came home. What a pathetic monologue here...

I woke up on tuesday (sister-going day) with a sore throat. Okay. Wedmesday - we went to anoutdoor airforce museum in over 100 degree weather and I came home with a migraine and a rash. thought it was heat rash. Well - heat rash didn't go awayually spread all over my body and sore throat got so bad I went to the doctor today - she told me i probably have mono (AGAIN...) and I had to do a billion blood tests. what worries me is not mono, but that she asked me who my primary doctor is for my diabetes. and I said - I don't have diabetes, and she said - yes you do.. So I went out of ther feeling sick and miserable and that's where I am right now. Sick and miserable.

But I didn't eat any junk today.


08-31-2008, 04:11 PM
Jolly, congrats on the 1/2 marathon and going back to school!! I know how tuff it is. I've been in school for 20 years. I guess I'm making a career out of it. :)

red, i did really well Sat. Ate soo much veggies and good stuff that I wasn't hungry. Didn't smoke either! I've been chewing Nicorette for the last couple of days, but it's starting to make my stomach turn, so I guess I'm giving it all up completely. And the Dawgs won!! Congrats on your progress as well.

miriam, I'm sorry to hear you are having such a hard time. I'll be praying for you.

As of Saturday:

Personal Challenges: Day 4Complete
Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

08-31-2008, 05:57 PM
Not too much action around here these days, is there? :?: Where is everyone? Well, I guess mod is in Vegas, but others? Anyhow, we have our ups and downs. I just hope we see a bit more action soon. :(
Well, I continue along, not feeling good at all. Just wanting to sleep, just wanting to have some good feelings in my life again and somehow even the thought of losing weight isn't giving me a lift. Twelve days off booze again may be the reason. I guess the high of being lit does have its moments. Still, it's high time I went out and tried to create those moments by working on a life that is more fulfilling. Isn't instant gratification nice those? ;) I guess you could have instant gratification though by looking at something you've worked a long time time on and finally accomplished, like a body you're proud of, or a clean room, things I CAN do NOW. Sigh.
When I think of that, heck, losing weight and getting in shape IS something I can do right now, so there is no reason to get bummed. Hmmm.


beachluvr -- Good going on the veggies and no smoking. You're doing well!! :yes:

miriam -- Oh my gosh. That is awful news. Undiagnosed diabetes. Gets me thinking. But what a ridiculously crude way to break it to you. Who ARE these doctors? I certainly hope you can get things under control, go to some decent doctors and find out the specifics. Diabetes is easily controllable these days, so you needn't worry. Perhaps, if this is the case, you can get to the root of a lot of problems that you didn't realize were coming from this and be much better off overall. And miriam, you are hardly fat, you weigh less than I do! So, stop beating yourself up.

jolly -- Ok, clear on the "r." As for the marathon, it's kind of like saying a single scoop cone isn't ice cream. Single or double, half or full, it's still a marathon!!! Stop belittling the things you do! :nono: I understand the problem of free days. Maybe you need to change the name and your idea of what is allowable. As a rider...liken it to a relaxed walk on a long rein. Just because you're taking a break doesn't mean you have to take off the bridle and allow the horse to do what she wants with you still in the saddle. :lol:


Where I stand on Monday (not including Monday)


No sugar 8 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 8 days completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 7 days complete/no pauses


No booze 12 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 12 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 13 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 8 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 12 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 8 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-31-2008, 10:58 PM
Miriam, I am very sorry to hear about your troubles, and hope they get things diagnosed and under control soon.

Beachlvr, way to go on giving up cigarettes. That is a huge thing to do. Keep up the great work.

Red, first, I love the long rein analogy. That certainly puts it into perspective :lol: and you are very right. I need to keep that in mind, and get the bridle back on the horse. Also, you are right, you need to work on things now. With family ailing, and stories of friends of friends - life is too darn short to be miserable. What can you do today to change your situation, and be the heroine of your life story, instead of the victim???

I am trying to wrap up some things before getting to studying. I did power shopping today for the cruise, and spent an obscene amount of money. But it was SUCH a treat, not having to shop in the plus department. Woo hoo.

I was also motivated to come up with a new short term goal, to reach by my birthday. Hopefully I will get some new challenges going here soon.

Take care all :wave:

09-01-2008, 01:02 PM
Well crap! I smoked last night. And I'm so dissapointed now and it wasn't worth it at all! But a new day. On a happier note, official weigh in today and I've lost 3.4 lbs. I worked out yesterday and really pushed myself. I even jogged a little. The treadmills at the gym are in the front, and I think everyone behind me can see my big butt jiggling. A man must have designed that layout.

red - Don't be bummed. Wish I had some words of wisdom for you. One thing I do know is happiness is where you find it. I'm sitting here drinking coffe and watching the hummingbirds come to the feeder. Couldn't be happier. Simple, I know, but I think finding joy in the little things is what life is all about. Course, I color when I'm really sad too, so I might just be a little bit crazy. :D

jolly - when/where is your cruise? A friend and I are going to be booking one very soon. I've never been on one before so I'm very excited!

Personal Challenges: As of Sunday
5 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
4 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
5 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

09-01-2008, 05:33 PM
All I can say is that things seem worse and worse and I am exhausted beyond measure. That is my mental outlook and a lot of it is physical as I push and push myself. The heat and humidity aggravate my skin something horrible and that doesn't help. Despite all I do, my skin is worse. The only solace is that with my new futon dryer I am sleeping a bit better at night. Unfortunately, there are simply not enough hours till I have to be up again. Seeing my skin so bad makes me feel worse too. It all seems hopeless and I think that my only resort is to go for the steroids, which I so don't want. Anyhow, I shall kick on. Maybe I will have a breakthrough if the weather would cool off.I sit here drenched in sweat all the time and that is the worst thing for my skin.

Let's hope the not drinking, not smoking and not eating sugar will eventually help me. In a way now, I feel it's the only thing I have, to keep holding on to this.

Hate sounding so down but that's the way things are. Your words of support do help. :(


jolly -- Glad you liked the long rein analogy. I do the same thing myself (or did) with my pauses. So, it spoke to me as well. Power shopping! Wow! Good to have such fun. You truly deserve it and what a present for getting under 200. :sunny:

beach -- Oh, bummer on the smoking. As long as you can remember that feeling of it not being worth it then you're making progress. It's when you have enough of those feelings that the whole "NOT doing" something becomes second nature that you won't do the thing you don't really want to and then you're free of it. I was that way with drinking. I had to drink over and over and feel afterward that it wasn't worth it and only then was I able not to do it in the first place. Now, what I need, is to feel that it is WORTH it not to be doing these things and I will feel sooo much better.


Where I stand on Tuesday (not including Tuesday)


No sugar 9 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 9 days completed/3 pauses
Food and exercise journal 8 days complete/no pauses


No booze 13 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 13 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 14 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 9 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 12 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 9 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

Shy Moment
09-01-2008, 08:14 PM
I am doing better. The knee is still a pain and makes everything I do take forever but it is getting better. It is very important for me to come in here and read what is going on with everyone. I am doing well on the eating. It is the one thing I can control and I am being very careful what I put into my body. The meads are still packing on a few pounds so I sure don't want to add to it. I am so sorry you are having such a rough time. You have so much going on and I am sure there aren't enough hours in the day. All you can really do right now is make sure you are very organized. That is the only way you are going to have any time for yourself. Oh my gosh, I do understand about the skin thing. I have eczema and when it flairs up I feel so bad about how I look. Keep in mind, it might be the same for you as it is for me. It bothers me far more than anyone else even notices it. How we look really does effect all other aspects of how we feel about our selfs. You are working on some really hard goals and it might take time to meet each of those goals. Be proud of yourself each and every day you meet even one of them.

You are doing terrific. Nice going on that loss and getting into the 100's. Hope school is going well.

Stopping smoking can be very hard for some people. Each day you don't smoke is a huge accomplishment.

Oh my you have really had a lot going on haven't you. You get a good physical and all the blood work that goes with it. Better to know what is wrong with us so we can do something about it. Stress, no matter what we do there seems to be stress from something and getting off the wagon does happen. You sit and remember how proud you were of yourself each and everyday you did what you needed to do to make yourself a more healthy thinner person. Get all the crap out of the house no matter who wants it there. They should care more about you than about getting to eat things they don't need anyway and get back on that wagon. You will feel so good about yourself.

09-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Alright, I'm in on this one. My personal challenge is to get at least 30 minutes of exercise everyday, for all 21 days, with two pause days (just due to craziness of schedule and time constraints).

Wish me luck! I'll start tomorrow.

09-02-2008, 03:09 AM
Shy -- Thank you SO much for your very sweet post. I am at work now so can't write but just wanted to say thanks. I got all teary and am having to fight them back. You're just so understanding and sweet. :hug:

Viatre -- Welcome to our humble thread! :welcome: Best of luck!!!! :goodluck:

09-02-2008, 08:06 AM
Morning Everyone,

red - ohh I can't wait to get to that point! Thanks for the support.

Thank you too Shy!

Well, I didn't gym it yesterday, I knew I would take one day off a week, so I'm not dissapointed. I did, however, go to the antique mall with my mom and we walked for like 2 hours! I'm still taking a pause, but I'm glad I got some sort of movement in.

Hope everyone has a good day!

Personal Challenges: As of Monday
6 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
5 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
6 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 2 Pauses

09-02-2008, 09:15 AM
I don't know what it is -- the stars? -- but I often find there's a sort-of general mood that hits a lot of people at the same time. A lot of people seem to be struggling. I'm starting to feel better but had a bit of a blow-out (diet-wise) last night. I don't think I'm up to SB at this point so I'm going back to CORE (so I can have the occasional treat and just count the points.)

I'm going for no pauses. And I guess this is going to have to start tomorrow, because today I had baclava for breakfast :dz:

Recommitting to:

At least 10,000 steps a day (I've been doing about that many for a couple months.)


3L water a day

Either yoga or tai chi daily (ideally, both)

Daily meditation

Daily weigh-in

Daily report

8-10 servings fruit/veggies

:hug: for all the struggling challengers! Good for us for coming in here anyway. We'll make it!

09-02-2008, 08:46 PM
Well, people. I'm really tired of coming in here with such depressing tones all the time, but work continues to make me so angry. It's not just me. The place is toxic, absolutely horrible to be in. BUT, I don't have an alternative. And people around me, because I speak Japanese think I can just go out and find another job. Jeez. I wish. In any case, it's a horrible feeling, to be in a place that is pathetic and yet not know how to get out. It makes me feel like such an incredible loser, really, that is where most of the anger comes from, from the fact that I can't find a way to better my situation, that I am seemingly at the mercy of a bunch of losers.
And to top that, I am doing so well on my challenges and yet see absolutely no encouraging signs there. My skin is just as bad. My weight stays high. It's like I am stuck in quicksand and going under, slowly but surely. What goes!?!?!?!


Took a pause on the juice yesterday. I had time to make it, but didn't, which is not a good thing to do (or not do), but I was just sick of it. :^:

Where I stand on Wednesday (not including Wednesday)


No sugar 10 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 9 days completed/2 of 3 pauses left
Food and exercise journal 9 days complete/no pauses


No booze 14 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 14 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 15 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 10 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 13 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 10 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

Well, sorry about my situation. I am usually an optimistic person but I can't find it anywhere these days. My optimism has fled. I am angry all the time, except when I'm with my horse and far from the work and the people there. Please, please, please, I need to find an alternative (a dazzling one!! :sunny: )

Well, hi to all. Just ignore me. Good luck to everyone else! :wave:

Shy Moment
09-02-2008, 09:05 PM
I am not sure if this will help but here it goes. I have been looking for work for 3 years, since my last job. I keep hearing I am over qualified and will leave as soon as I get a better job so I don't get hired. I keep hearing if I finish my degree ( I only have a two year degree ) they would hire me in a heart beat because of my experience come back when I finish my degree ( how can you do that without a job ). I am 45 and no one wants me. I did what I thought was right and stayed home and raised my children. My choice I understand but house wifes get no respect out in the work force no matter how much experience they have at organization and finance and so forth.

At least you have a job. I feel worthless and stupid most of the time. I know I am very very good at what I do if I could just get someone to give me a chance and give me a job. My old job loved me. To bad they had to cut back workers after I was there for a year and a half I was one of the people that was gotten rid of. AND I was only a temp ( yes I was there over a year and still a temp ( no respect at all since I made HALF what the other people made doing the same job I did ) and they don't give references to any temps.

When we think we have things very bad we have to remember there are people who have it worse. We have things cut to the bone because prices are so high. Things are tight and that causes stress. My son was suppose to go to college this year but he doesn't qualify for stanford loans and I sure can't afford to sigh for plus loans. He doesn't get to go to college, what kind of future is he going to have. This lays on my heart like a ton of bricks. BUT there are people living in card board boxes. I have to remember to be thank full for what I have sometimes.

I had to be by the docs office today so I did my weigh in today instead of tomorrow. Well, I knew the amount put back on was going to be bad and it was lol. 18 pounds. I only say 18 because while I was down lower than that I was maintaining at about 144. That's ok, I am off the meads for the time being and I can get this weight off. If I could do it once I can sure do it again. The good Lord is right there beside me.

09-02-2008, 09:16 PM
Yeah, Shy, you're right, and I do think of others with less. But, I also think of others with more, like you said, doing the same work and making more money and my situation was like yours for years and years. It's only been the past two where I was a little bit better taken care of, but still, the injustices are there. This is why I want to find a way out of the place I'm in. I guess you could say that I am blessed to be able to understand the WAY THINGS ARE. Many people go through their entire lives not seeing how they are being used and on top of that feeling grateful for their exploiters. In any case, this all has so little to do with my challenges. If I could see a bright spot there it would help. But I don't. My weight stays incredibly high. I really, really don't understand it because I am logging my food and it's not high and I am NOT drinking nor eating any sugar, which always sends my calories over the moon and bloats me. So, what goes?
But, I am going to keep doing it. This must be yet another test, to make me even stronger and able to get past more and more. But for what, for what, for what????? This has been my question for years. What good does all the "strength" do me? If I could use it to help others, then good, but I don't see anything helping others. If I could use it to help myself, then good, but you see where things stand...
Oh, sigh, sigh, sigh, I will, I will, I will push on. I must. It's all I have. Giving up is NOT an option.

Shy Moment
09-02-2008, 09:46 PM
Do you know how many calories, fat and carbs you take in a day? Are you eating the required amounts of the four basic food groups? I do know if I am not eating enough ( it is amazing how much you need to get to get those requirements in. I don't lose weight or I might even gain weight if I am not eating enough.

It is terrible to not be appreciated. It seems most jobs are that way these days. Those that do the most work and this is sure the case for manual labor. Don't get paid what they should. Those that don't do physical labor and have easy jobs get paid far more. Doesn't make sense does it. Think about it, there are office workers that make three times what your local police person does. There are ditch diggers ( I can't think of a harder job ) that get paid far less than what an accounts payable clerk makes in many cases. Not to say everyone shouldn't be paid what they are worth but that just isn't how it is. Doesn't seem like anyone gets any respect anymore.

I am not sure what it is you do but I can sure tell the stress level is very very high. I do remember many moons ago having to work to keep a roof over my children head. I worked my bum off and was paid min wage and was treated like the lowest dog at the kennel. It does get to you. You start to feel horrible about yourself. The brain goes dead if you happen to be in a job that is more manual than mental.

09-03-2008, 01:01 AM
Hey All! Well, I'm back and didn't do too badly at all. I worked out at gym pretty much every day, HARD! for a good hour, and ate very healthily and not too much for dinner--yaay! A modicum of alcohol, but I did use up all my pauses--oh well, thats what they are there for! Sometimes, just had a lemonade or a virgin Bloody.

Although I ate a bit more than normal, just up 1.5 pounds this morning. SO--back on track for this week!

No alcohol--9 days, no pauses left.
No processed junk food--9 days, no pauses
Exercise/walk every day minimum 30 minutes--9 days, 2 pauses left.

Miriam--so sorry to hear about your health problems--do the docs have any idea how long you've had undiagnosed diabetes? Hopefully a recent thing. My aunt--who hated to go to the doctor, in fact hadn't gone in over 20 years, had to go for something, and had them diagnose diabetes she must have had for many years, due to damage/changes that were evident, in eye as well as heart. Its a wonder she had no episodes with it. I guess it's better to find out sooner rather than later.......

Jolly--Good luck in school and way to go for the 190's! Yeah I know that feeling of liking to shop again when you finally drop a few sizes and can fit into some stylish clothes! Just ask my hub about my Macy's blowout I had a couple of weeks ago (lol).

Shy--it's tough out there for any job seekers--my b-i-l was in the tech industry (software engineer) and due to the crash in the computer industry, lost his job and was basically out of work for 4 YEARS! Just recently a few months ago found a permanent full-time employee job again. For 4 years, just short-term projects occasionally as a independent contractor--6 weeks here, 3 months there, with long unemployed breaks in between. Hopefully you will find something to fit you soon and it will be so sweet!

It is so bad they have had to cut out a lot of student funding--I would never have gotten where I am today without the availability of student loans. Maybe a different college--a community college where he can commute and take a few hours and work part-time to pay for it? Just to get started?

beach--way to go getting back on the horse, so to speak (red will appreciate that one). Smoking (quitting) is tough--good luck!

Arabella--wow! No pauses at all! Maybe you should build in one--b/c life makes it so difficult to be perfect. Still, a good high bar you have set. Don't feel bad if you miss a day, though.....

Good Luck Viatre!

Red-- how can I help you feel better? I have been in crappy situations and felt like no way out. And eventually one presented itself. If it is intolerable, think outside the box. Possibly a move? I think you've been there for like 20 years? But just b/c you speak Japanese, doesn't mean you have to work in Japan. Even if you have to move your horse. A family just moved here (California) from Australia and I don't think they were rich, but they did move their horse--I don't know how! Maybe time to dust off that resume--look in international publications, talk to head hunters? There's got to be plenty of companies that may desperately need a Jap/Eng bi-lingual professional. A change in locale could be what you need. Or a vacation? (lol).

Know this--even if you choose to stay, nothing stays the same forever. Somehow, the situation will change and maybe with a few more personnel turnovers, or management turnovers, your problems will be less....

09-03-2008, 02:05 PM
Hey Ladies,

Red - How can you say you don't help others?! From the short time I've been on here you have always been sooo supportive of everyone! I so look forward to your posts of encouragement and advice. I know that you are probably talking more about your professional life, but don't think for a second you aren't helping others.

modcat - Good work on all your achievements!!

Keep up all your hard work everyone!!

Personal Challenges: As of Tuesday
7 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
6 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
7 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 2 Pauses

09-03-2008, 05:18 PM
I've been here before and then went away and now I want to quickly post a big :congrat: to Jolly. You go, girlfriend! You've lost a tremendous amount of weight and you must be SO pleased and proud. Plus, running a 1/2 marathon! That's amazing! You rock! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: I just recently discovered the joy of shopping in the misses section, rather than the plus sizes. On the good side though, my blood sugar is back to normal....doc says I'm not borderline diabetic anymore. Of course, I aggravated my back injury and am limited on the amount I can exercise until next week.

Anyway, Jolly, I am so happy for you and all the success you've achieved thus far! :woohoo:

09-03-2008, 05:32 PM
Shy, mod, beach, thank you so much for your words of support. Another night of but a bit of sleep and I am up now at 4:30 and must get out. If I could get some good nights of sleep I would be so much better, but alas.... :(
I had a good talk with my ex-boss last night about the situation at work and I'm hoping my advances in a spirit of goodwill and cooperation can help work me out of this mire. But, I am really too tired to do it. If only the itching would stop so I could get some relief....
Well, thanks again. I will try to write more later.
As for the challenges, I was out talking in the bar last night and I almost gave in to a pint. I thought, why not, I have no idea what is causing my skin to be so bad and nothing I do seems to help, so why not have a pint? In fact, I don't think it would have mattered a bit if I had, but I didn't and I didn't smoke either, both of which were very tempting as I was out with someone with whom I have always absolutely loved to drink. Sigh. I really just want to be able to relax and feel good about myself. I am at least not gaining weight but I am too exhausted to go to the gym so am turning to fat and NO muscle tone. Oh well, it's still something and I have to think that the challenges were for my mother and not for weight loss or skin improvement. Discipline. That's all I can say it's for. That if I say I'm going to do something, I will and this is certainly not a bad thing to do, even if it's not a great thing. Break my old streak of 36 days off booze. I can do that. Can't I?


Where I stand on Thursday (not including Thursday)


No sugar 11 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 10 days completed/2 of 3 pauses left
Food and exercise journal 10 days complete/no pauses


No booze 15 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 15 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 16 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 11 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 13 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 11 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

Shy Moment
09-04-2008, 12:47 AM
Usually I am pretty cool with still trying to find work. It has just gotten to me a bit lately. Had another of those you will leave when you find another good job interviews lol. We never needed me to work, well we don't NEED me to work now but if I went to work we could live the way we use to instead of having to cut everything out and my son could go to college because my pay could help him a bit. It is mostly I could help him go to college that really makes me want to work even part steady time would help.

hello hello again lol. You take care of that back. We know what back injury's can do and being laid up isn't something you want. Good going on not being borderline anymore. Oh isn't it great to get out of the large ladies section and be able to have more choices of what we wear. I found this great store Katherins that sells larger Ladies clothes. They aren't real real expensive but not cheap either. I was looking forward to getting an outfit. I now where 12's and medium shirts lol I didn't even get to shop there. They don't sell anything under an 18. I am pretty happy with myself even thou the meads put on a bunch of weight. I am wearing REAL 12's not todays size 12's lol. This pair of pants I have on have to be 8 years old lol.

You are doing terrific. What does the dermatologist say is going on with her skin?

I have a question hope one of you can help me. I had to go back to the doc for this knee again today. Darn thing is really bothering me and swelling again. I refuse to take the meads again. Didn't help for nothing and all the darn weight makes the knee worse. I was told no walking/aerobic videos for a month but I could join curves if I wanted because the machines are low impact on the knee except for the squat machine. I checked out a couple here in the area and one seems ok. 99 dollars to sign up and 34 a month. In laws said they would pay for it for my christmas and birthday for this year and next lol. Is it worth the money does anyone know. Seems it is a 30 min workout you can do 6 days a week. Circuit training on the machines twice thru the routine and then you do the stretch machine. The machines also have a computer attached so it tells you if you are using the machines right and keep track of your pulse which is good because i am always dead I guess since I can't find my pulse lol.

09-04-2008, 08:07 AM
Morning All,

Shy, I did curves years ago. I think it was well worth it. Unfortunately I didn't stick with it. They didn't have the computers when I was there. The people were very friendly, loved that it was just females. The machines were easy to use. The only disadvantage I saw at all was you can't listen to your ipod. You have to listen to their music so you'll know when to "switch". My local curves usually runs a special every month or so, bring in a couple of canned goods and they waive the initial fee. Sounds like a great gift to me!

Well, I wasn't all that good yesterday. A co-worker brought in a banana split cake in celebration of my graduation. She went to a lot of work not to mention the money she spent on it. There's no way I could have turned it down. But i didnt' gorge. I also skipped the gym. A friend of mine came by and we booked a cruise together in March!! :carrot: By the time she left the gym was closed. SO, I have to workout Sunday in order to stay on track. Which isn't the end of the world. I just HATE going on sundays. The gym doesn't open until 1:30 - dang those freakin blue laws!!!

Hope everyone has a good day!

Personal Challenges: As of Wednesday
8 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
7 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
6 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

Shy Moment
09-04-2008, 11:09 AM
You should be proud of yourself that you didn't just eat and eat. Nothing wrong with having something special from time to time. Think I am going to hold off on curves until they have a special running. That is a lot of money and there are so many things that kind of money can be spent on even if I don't have to pay for it lol.

09-04-2008, 08:56 PM
Hey all. Sorry I haven't been able to write. I still can't. Just can't make the time. Suffice to say, things are the same. Skin is worse than ever and no, no one knows what the problem is, I've been to three doctors. I really don't know what's going on except that I feel so unhappy all that time that that is certainly not helping and part of that, probably, is due to the fact that I have less and less good times, now that I've given up sugar and booze. Is that pathetic or what? Anyhow, gotta run! :wave:
Oh, and I'm giving up the journal again. I'm just not committed to it.
Still can't believe it's only 12 days off sugar. 17 off booze is starting to sound right. Maybe it's the numbers under 20 that just don't seem like a big deal to me anymore, the numbers that is. The time off seems like a huge deal! Just goes to show how addicted I am. :(
And, I will not discuss my weight. It only serves to infuriate me that I can't lose....

Where I stand on Friday (not including


No sugar 12 days completed/undecided on pauses
Vegetable juice 11 days completed/2 of 3 pauses left
Food and exercise journal (canning this for now)

No booze 16 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 16 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 17 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 12 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 14 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 12 days/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

09-05-2008, 08:06 AM
Have a question for ya'll...
The weight is not coming off as fast as I thought it would. I know that muscle weighs more than fat, but I've only been doing weights for 2 weeks. Is it too soon to assume that I'm gaining muscle? I thought that would take months.

Personal Challenges: As of Thursday
9 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
8 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
7 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

09-05-2008, 09:22 AM
Hey all. So many of you seem to be going through such a rough time. i wish I knew what to say. I don't.

I can remind that "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a DIFFERENT result." That applies to weight loss, work, personal life. At some point you have to assess where you are falling into that trap. If something is not working in your life, you have to do some serious soul searching and figure out why. And, look at all the things that are working in your life and figure out why for that too. And then make some choices. There is only so much you can do to control other people, other circumstances, but you can control your response to it. Think about whether or not you want to be the heroine in your own life story, or the victim. Because if you passively sit back and let life happen, you are playing the victim. And that isn't right, because none of you strike me as weak. You are all strong women with a lot to offer. But you have to own that greatness.

I wish all of you the best, and brighter days ahead.

09-06-2008, 07:34 AM
I didn't mean to upset anyone or be harsh with what I said. I am a firm believer in the power of a good wallow now and then. i just think, after you have that time to wallow, you all deserve better long term, and hope you go out and get it. :grouphug:

Shy Moment
09-06-2008, 10:11 AM
It is going to take time to gain muscle. Muscle really doesn't weigh so much more than fat that you are really going to see a difference on the scale pound per pound that is what they both are a pound. When weight isn't coming off at 1 or 2 pounds per week we have to look at what we are doing. Are we close to goal? That could be a reason weight loss has slowed down. Are we really watching what we are putting into our mouths. Most think they are watching but unless you measure and write everything down you really aren't watching you are guessing and guessing doesn't work well for weight loss. For some, exercise including weights doesn't really effect weight loss. As we lose fat we gain muscle and it is about equal. From everything I have read the first thing that happens is we lose fat around the muscle so the muscle shows more. As we tone that muscle it shows even more and we start to get bigger firmer toned muscles. No, it doesn't take months for this to happen, I don't know about two weeks but for myself I could see great toning going on in my muscles in a couple of weeks. You keep good eating habits and exercise and you are going to see the weight coming off and the muscles toning. Now of course lol, I could be totally wrong. I have gotten all of this from all the reading I have done and a husband that knows more about exercise and working out that many of us ( myself included ) will ever know lol. Woman also don't gain muscle like men do. We don't generally bulk up. Ok, woman body builders do lol. The rest of us tone those muscles and lose weight. As we lose weight those toned muscles show more and are nice and firm.

I feel bad for everyone when they are having such a hard time. I generally roll with the punches of life. Maybe that is because of how I grew up. I think it is important to let our selfs have a small amount of time to complain about the injustices of this or that ( for me it is putting 18 pounds back on thanks to having to be back on meads again no matter that I watched what I ate like a hawk and even lower my intakes a bit to try to make up for what I knew the meads were going to do ). After we have our complain time we have to accept how things are and then just move on. When there is nothing we can do about a situation we have to make the best of it and sometimes that is very very hard. When things are going horribly wrong in our life's we need to look at what isn't going wrong. This can be hard I know but we all have so much to be thankful for. We can walk and talk. We can watch what goes into our body's we have a brain that works. We have the ability to do something about most of the things in our life that we don't like. Maybe we need to be thankful that our children are healthy even if they do have problems. Maybe we should be thankful we have a job even if it is a crappy job, there are people living in cardboard boxes. Maybe, we should just be thankful when we wake up in the morning that we have a brand new day to try to do something about the things we don't like in our life.

God grant me the serenity

To accept the things I can not change
Courage to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference

09-06-2008, 10:45 AM
Thanks for the info helps. I guess I'm expecting a little too much in 2 weeks. :D I'll keep truckin' a long. Even if the lbs aren't coming off, I feel so much better.

Hope everyone has a good day!

Personal Challenges: As of Friday
10 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
9 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
8 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

Shy Moment
09-06-2008, 10:58 AM
I am one of those people that exercise does little to help me lose weight. I lose at 1 pound a week with or without exercise. But, the toning that is going on is well worth the effort and I feel better everyday ( except for these darn knees at the moment )

09-06-2008, 09:26 PM
That's exactly how I'll think of it then, may not help with the actual weight loss, but will certainly help with the toning. But OMG, I could knock someone out with these flabby arms!!! :)

Shy Moment
09-07-2008, 11:43 AM
Come on over and we can compare our bat arms over a cup of tea lol. I will make you feel better about those arms. I was doing one of my Leslie Sansone videos the other day. She is the same age I am. Now that woman is in good shape and you know what, she has a bit of the bat arm going on there too. Must be something that happens with age.

09-07-2008, 01:27 PM
Hey all--sorry to not be posting--my bro and sil are here--sightseeing and busy, all day, every day. They are leaving Wednesday. Then back to gym! :eek:

Just a quick note to show support. BTW, my sil who has lost 95 lbs and I who has lost 35 lbs were comparing our "bat" arms--seems to be universally hated. But, also a part of aging, aggravated by weight loss. We are both committed to exercise to help with that, and otherwise, shrug our shoulders b/c we neither one want the surgery, and both MUCH prefer being thinner and healthier. (She MAY get a tummy tuck later--way too much excess skin making a roll/pouch hanging over her waist, but that's it.)

Quick note on challenges--May have to start over this week--oh well! Still feeling good and happy and I know I haven't backslid much on my weight--just up 1.5 lbs so far for the last 10 days. Just not able to really keep on my disciplined approach as well now. But in three more days--back to "normal".

09-07-2008, 05:20 PM
Well, I'm a little bummed (again). I had a cigarette last night. So back to day one with that challenge. I'm trying to remember the big picture though. 2 cigs in 2 weeks isn't that bad, compared to the 5-6 pack a week habit before. And I'm still determined to quit.
I did reach my 3 mile mark today!

I'm not so sure bout surgery either. When I hit my goal weight I may have to re-evaluate that. But my stomach can't be any worse than the mom on Jon & Kate plus 8 after having 6 babies!! See... there's always someone who has it worse.

Personal Challenges: As of Saturday
11 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
0 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
9 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

09-08-2008, 08:55 AM
Sure is quite around here. Everyone ok?:(

Personal Challenges: As of Sunday
12 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
1 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
10 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

09-08-2008, 09:22 AM
210. Feeling good again, have enough energy to do stuff. Huzzah!

I've got to get to work but wanted to get in and post my new challenges. I'll put in two pauses, just in case. It occurred to me last night that it might be easier to get back on track after a "pause" if I could pick up where I left off the next day. Not planning to pause but... you know. Stuff happens. :o

Here's my plan:

At least 10000 steps a day
Either yoga or tai chi
At least 2L water
WW CORE program
Report in

Hope everyone's feeling good. Here's to a great week for all challengers! :cheers:

Apple Blossom
09-08-2008, 04:16 PM
So...what's the naked scary Halloween challenge??:fr:

Hi everyone. I'm back. Again. Queen of the restart.
So Here I go again.
No Beer, Day 0, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 0, 3 pauses left
South Beach phase 1, Day 0, 3 pauses left
I usually don't allow so many pauses, but I need to give myself a fighting chance.;)

Red, I hope things are going better for you....:hug:
Jolly! Congrats on the 1/2 marathon, and for reaching the 100's!! That's fantastic!!!:congrat::celebrate:
Hi Arabella, how are you approaching your meditation? I would love to try that...
Hi beach! Get back on track with that smoking thing. Addictions are tough, and even though you only had two in a week, you did crack open a window...You can do it!! Sorry for the :kickbutt:, but I really want to see you succeed!!!
Bat arms.. Don't even go there......:bat::rofl:
So, I DO want to set some crazy goals for myself, even though I never seem to meet them.
September..... 7 lbs
October..... 5 lbs
November..... 5 lbs
December.... 3 lbs

09-08-2008, 05:26 PM
Heh, people. I'm taking a break from it all. Will see how things go and try to be back in the near future. Hold the fort for me, will ya? :^:

Shy Moment
09-08-2008, 11:38 PM
Please keep in touch with us while you take your rest. We will miss you and you might not know it but you are an inspiration for all of us.

09-09-2008, 07:23 AM
210.4. This is my fourth day of being back on track. Official Day 2. I find the first three days are the hardest making a change like only eating at the table. Next challenge I'll work on putting fork down between bites.

:bat: Batwings? Let us not speak of this. :eek: I like to dream that it'll all tighten up when I lose the weight -- it did when I got in goal territory, um, about 20 years ago. Sheesh. I hadn't realized how long ago that was. So, yeah, thinking maybe the ups and downs and aging might not help me realize that dream. I lift weights 3X a week, though, and I'm hoping that does some good.

modcat, I'm shrugging my shoulders too. :rolleyes: Aw, even that wiggles my batwings!

Red, just look after yourself while you're on walkabout! Hope to see you back soon. :hug:

Apple Blossom, I try different approaches. Sometimes I just sit and focus on my breath. Sometimes I use a guided meditation. There's a good 10-minute one here ( And I feel like I've got no excuse for not fitting in 10 minutes. Last night I took a walk down to the harbour and sat and watched the sun set.

Beachluvr, when I start any new intensive exercise regime, my weight loss is slow at the first. I think that the muscles often tend to hold water when you're doing something like that. I've seen it happen every time I start something new. I see changes in my body but it takes a while to translate to the scale.

Jollygirl & Shy, I agree -- our attitude is what makes us happy or unhappy. Not our circumstances but how we react to them. Of course, it seems a lot easier sometimes than others but it's worth the effort. After all, this is our lives.

I can get pretty negative, myself. And it only makes everything worse, attracts more negativity. Working on it, always working on it.

:wave: all! (aw, there go the :bat:s again).

Let's take this day and make it work for us!

09-09-2008, 01:28 PM
Just another quick note--company still here thru tomorrow--whew! Will write more later.

naked scary halloween challenge--enygirl started it, you set a goal to reach by halloween--she put us into teams--kinda like TBL. I'm in team BAT--not doing anything to help my team at the moment--hehe! :^:

Stick with it girls! Hang in there Red! TTYL.....

09-09-2008, 02:30 PM
Welcome back Apple :welcome3: Thanks for the kick, I need it once in a while.

Red, you'll continue to be in my thoughts. Look forward to hearing from you soon.

Arabella, your post gives me hope!! :hyper: I've never done the weights before, and I've never not lost a lb or two (when I'm truly honest with my eating). So I'm going to stay off the scale for a good week and see what happens.

Hope you're having fun with your company, mod.

Personal Challenges: As of Monday
13 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
2 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
11 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

Apple Blossom
09-09-2008, 06:22 PM
Well, I did not get started on those challenges yesterday, but today is shaping up well.
No Beer, Day 0, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 0, 3 pauses left
South Beach phase 1, Day 0, 3 pauses left
Start Over!
I also joined the Scary Naked Halloween Challenge. Don't know what team I'm on yet....
Red, Hope you are having success with your "walk about" , as Arabella has named it. (Funny!) We are missing you!:goodluck:
Hi Beach & Mod, hope things are going well!
Arabella, thanks for the link! I can't wait to try it, late at night when it's quiet and no kids or animals are bugging me! I also followed links from that site and found some cool web sites. Thanks!

Apple Blossom
09-09-2008, 06:28 PM
Ughh, I just weighed in to start the Halloween Challenge and changed my ticker. Even though I don't usually weigh myself this time of day, WOW! I have really poofed up. I really need to get going on this weight loss. I'm just making it harder and harder for myself. Stop the madness!!

09-09-2008, 08:32 PM
Hi people. I'm not walking anywhere, I'm just doing what I've always done more or less without having to critique everything or put it up for review. I need the time to just cruise along in anonymity on my harder challenges, and they have been extremely tough. I'm well aware of that and the only reason I'm bummed about the lack of weight loss is because I can't find it in myself to do that as well.

I'm well aware of what I'm NOT doing, just wish things weren't so tough that I would feel like making something not really so important to me a priority, or perhaps realizing that it is more important to me than I want to admit. The thing with me is that I do a lot of the things largely because I am so driven, but don't have anyone appreciating them (it's usually the opposite). I have to learn to appreciate myself more and not look for accolades from others. Or come to think about it, realize that it's NOT recognition from others that I want but from MYSELF. In fact, when I am actually doing something, I find the recognition (as opposed to support) somewhat annoying because I understand all the work that went into it. Not talking about you all here. What I like about here is that you all DO understand the hard work that goes into things and thus know that support, not recognition per se, feels good. That's pretty rare. Most people are often thinly veiling jealousy with comments of recognition and all too ready to bring on a bit of sabotage...."that's great that you haven't had a drink in two weeks...wanna go out tonight, just for one or so?"

So, I have to decide whether getting a great body is or isn't going to be a goal for now, a true goal, If it is, I have to do it. I certainly know how. If it isn't then I have to shut up.

Thanks for your support. I'll be back soon with an answer. Either I come in here to record the progress toward a new goal, a weight-loss goal, since that's what this site is for, or I leave totally.

I wish everyone the best with their challenges. :wave:

Apple, stop "poofing up!" :lol3:

09-10-2008, 08:39 AM
Hi all! Just posting for Tuesday. :wave:

Personal Challenges: As of Tuesday
14 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
3 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
12 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

09-10-2008, 04:44 PM
Just got time to pop in and report that Day 2 was all it should have been. And I'm coming up on the end of Day 3 in fine form.

Let this be our motto and our mantra: Stop poofing!

Apple Blossom
09-10-2008, 06:27 PM
Good news! I weighed myself this morning at my usual time and I lost 5 pounds! So I adjusted my ticker again. I don't think I REALLY lost 5 pounds in one day, but that sure would be nice, wouldn't it?! I feel like I'd be cheating if I started that high. I'm not as poofy as I thought.;)
No Beer, Day 1, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 1, 3 pauses left
South Beach phase 1, Day 1, 3 pauses left
We have lift off! I'm doing well today too. I took a long walk/jog. 4 miles! I finally had a day where I had the time and didn't feel guilty to take an hour to exercise. I might only be able to do that once a week, but that will do.
Hi to everyone! Thanks for checking in Red, we are all thinking of you!:hug:

September..... 7 lbs
October..... 5 lbs
November..... 5 lbs
December.... 3 lbs

09-11-2008, 02:04 AM
Great news, Apple!! :sunny:

09-11-2008, 08:01 AM
Good Job Arabella and Apple!!

Personal Challenges: As of Wednesday
15 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
4 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
13 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

09-11-2008, 10:01 AM
I'd love to have no pauses - but I hope if I do it's from something like a few steps under 10k or forgetting to meditate.

I'm down one more pound of the recent regain. :rolleyes: Gotta remember that journaling and only eating at the table when I'm by myself are essential elements of staying on track.

:chin: Actually, though, special dispensation allowing me to eat watching a movie by myself tomorrow evening might account for a pause. But I'll write up a contract with myself about what and how much I'm going to eat and will not allow it to turn to a "Whoopee!" meal... aka binge.

I might write the occasional judicious dispensation into my next challenge.

Huzzah to all -- let's make this a good one!

09-11-2008, 02:15 PM
Wow Arabella, I just realized you are about to leave the 200's!! That is awesome. Right behind you girl!

09-11-2008, 04:35 PM
Yeah, if you don't get in front of me, considering the rate I'm moving at!

Apple Blossom
09-12-2008, 12:18 AM
No Beer, Day 2, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 2, 3 pauses left
Modified South Beach phase 1, Restart
While I had a really GOOD day eating, I did eat some:nono:And there is no way I can fake my way out of it. I've decided to add "modified" to the SB Phase 1 because I do need to occasionally eat fruit or drink fruit juice, mostly because I hate wasting food and my kids don't always help out in that category. But other wise I can stick pretty close to it. Weigh-in tomorrow!
Arabella and Beach, I hope you BOTH make it to One-derland soon!!
September..... 7 lbs
October..... 5 lbs
November..... 5 lbs
December.... 3 lbs

09-12-2008, 09:32 AM
208.8. Day 4 down, Day 5 happening! No pauses yet. :D

Here's my list:

At least 10,000 steps a day (I've been doing about that many for a couple months.)


3L water a day

Either yoga or tai chi daily (ideally, both)

Daily meditation

Daily weigh-in

Daily report

8-10 servings fruit/veggies

Let's make this a good one!

Shy Moment
09-12-2008, 12:26 PM
Looks like everyone is doing pretty well. I think all of you are wonderful and I get excited for each and everyone of you as you make your way down the path we all walk to a more healthy thinner body.

I don't know a great deal about the plan you are using but if you think you need to modify it a bit that might be the thing to do. Staying on a plan we choose for ourself is important. We need to have a plan that is right for us.

09-12-2008, 01:16 PM
OK people--I'm back on track! Just started over yesterday, after everyone left on Wednesday.

OK: Exercise everyday: Day 2 (3 pauses left)
No booze: Day 2 (3 pauses left)
No junk food: Day 2 (3 pauses left)

Only gained about 1.3 lbs in last crazy busy 2 weeks--and that will come off this week-end--I'm sure of it! Hit spin class yesterday followed by ab lab and man, today I am sore!! Last actual workout about 9 days prior!!!

Although I did a lot of walking with my company, sightseeing, San Francisco etc.

WTG Arabella!

Apple--I think the mods will be ok. I am not doing any "specific" diet, just overall healthy coupled with a lot (for me) of exercise and it's been working the last few months. It's important to tailor wisely to fit your life. You'll be more likely to stick with it forever.

Beach--wow! You are doing awesome in your challenges! Gym every day is a tough one!! (Smoking is of course the hardest one, I hear) WTG!

Hi Shy, Red, everyone else!

Well, gotta run now--our lemon tree fell over! Just fell over :shrug: We had the gardener look at it and we need about 4 guys to lift it back up before he can stake/tie it down securely. They are coming by soon so we can do that this morning! On the plus side, I picked all the ripe and semi-ripe lemons and have been thinking of some yummy lemon recipes. I will try to find the healthier ones, from Cooking Light and such. Seems I will be freezing a lot of lemon juice this week-end as well!!

09-12-2008, 01:28 PM
Thanks Apple, I do too!

I know how you feel Arabella, I've been sooo good and working out sooo hard, but it's a slow process for me. Although I've noticed a few little changes the weight isn't coming off as fast as I had hoped. But I have such a wonderful support system here, at work, and my family, it's hard NOT to stay motivated. I'm very lucky.

After work yesterday it was raining pretty hard and I almost talked myself out of not going to the gym, but the BF told me to get my A#$ in gear. I'm so glad I went. I'll have to remember that feeling next time I try to talk myself out of it. I did get next to the "grunter" on the treadmill though. I believe the poor man may fall out one of these days. :woops:

Red, Mod, Shy :wave:

Personal Challenges: As of Thursday
16 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
5 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 1 Pause
14 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

Apple Blossom
09-12-2008, 05:24 PM
No Beer, Day 3, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 3, 3 pauses left
Modified South Beach phase 1, Day 1, 3 pauses left

Not time to post, but good news! I'm down 5 pounds! That would have been 7 if I counted that extra poof. Hurray. I always start diets with a quick drop off. I think it will be slower from now on.
Hello to everyone! Enjoy your week end!
September..... 7 lbs:hat::hat::hat::hat::hat:
October..... 5 lbs
November..... 5 lbs
December.... 3 lbs

09-12-2008, 10:55 PM
Hi, people. I'm still here but feeling so depressed and just can't seem to make a decision on anything because I feel I won't have the resolve to carry through on my challenges. Maybe I should just come back with something easy and build my confidence from there.....sigh.

09-13-2008, 12:07 PM
Good morning all. Got back from my cruise. i gained 2 pounds while gone. I have some serious work to do :( My stress is up though, as I have to get back to reality (work) for one, and my computer seems to be having major malfunctions for another. I hate that :fr:

Red, do something to build your confidence. Something you know you can and will accomplish, to allow yourself to feel your own success. You CAN do this!

everyone else :wave: I will be on as much as ailing 'puter allows. Take care!

Shy Moment
09-13-2008, 12:24 PM
You will have that 2 pounds off in no time at all. Hope you enjoyed yourself.

Sometimes I think we need to look at life differently. If you are a person that has a job outside of the home that is how it is ( heavens I wish I could find one around here, it would make it so my son could go to college ). If you have to bake tons of bread a week and not eat any of it lol that is what you have to do. Sometimes I think stress is caused because we just don't accept how things are. We always want to change things. We change what we can and accept what we can't. If we live day to day how it is instead of how we want it to be, when there is nothing we can do about it. Sure makes things a little easier. Find something in the day to look forward to. Getting off work is a nice one. A favorite show, a bubble bath or a good book. WE have to be glad we have a life at all. Look at the alternative lol.

I think that is a great idea. Challenges don't have to be all or nothing. Start with something small like, I am not going to eat out. Or, I can only have one treat today. How about, know the distance to a certain place and walk there and back from your house everyday. Little changes turn into big changes. Sometimes if we have to many things we want to do at once we just don't have the energy to do any of them.

Looks like you are doing great.

You keep in mind we didn't put the weight on in a day. We aren't going to take it off in a day. Sure glad you have lots of motivation.

How on earth does a lemon tree fall over and how can you tie it up after it falls over. Don't the roots and such come out of the ground when it falls over lol.

09-13-2008, 01:21 PM
Oy, so many posts so little time. I had a pause last night -- back to day 5 today. One pause left.

I probably could have avoided the pause pretty easily and indulgently if I'd just planned better. Maybe next time. It was nothing disasterous, didn't even use that many of my available points. But a rule is a rule.

Back at it!

09-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Jolly! Welcome back! I had an off two weeks also, but managed to get back on track a couple of days ago and that 1.5 or so lbs I gained have already come back off with three days of exercise and eating right. Not to worry!

Shy: You are so right--these problems we have in our lives--maybe we just need to view our daily life a bit differently for many of them, and yes--it IS much better than the alternative! Things we cannot change we have to work on accepting. Otherwise--work towards change. I know it sounds over-simplified, but you know what I mean.

And, yes, I guess nothing broke with our tree, it just fell over and mostly pulled out of ground. A combination of too heavy with too much fruit and wet ground the is relatively poor here, i.e., sandy soil. We pulled off tons of fruit and uprighted it and secured with wires to the fence. I wish now I'd taken a picture of it fallen over--darn!

Well, off for a long walk today--tomorrow I will go to swim class. Still sore today from last days at gym!

09-13-2008, 03:58 PM
:bravo: Yay Apple!!! :cp: I'm so excited for ya!! Keep up the good work!

Red, not making a decision IS a decision. I agree with Jolly and Shy, pick something small, maybe even something you've already accomplished. We all believe you can do what you set your mind to! You just have to find that within yourself.

Jolly, which cruise did you go on? I just booked one in March and I'm soo excited. I want to leave tomorrow!

I know Shy, I keep telling myself that very same thing. Although, all my life I've been one of those "when I want something I want it now", kinda people. And I usualy find a way to get it. Not in a spoiled rotten kind of way, but a work my butt off kind of way. So it is soooo against my nature. :)

I had a planned night out last night with some friends, so I didn't get my work out. Using my last pause. And I'm taking my smoking pause out. It keeps staring me in the face, almost like a "freebie" and I don't like it. Technically I'm a non-smoker now, so there is no reason for me to use it.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend!

Personal Challenges: As of Friday
17 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 1 Pause
6 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
14 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 0 Pauses

09-14-2008, 11:59 AM
208.6. I love the 21-Day challenges. But I have to say that Red's inclusion of pause days is genius. I think it really helps.

Also, for me, my plan is totally livable. Meditation is the hardest, for some odd reason. :rolleyes: If it wasn't for the challenge I'd be having a lot of trouble getting it in.

Beach, good for you taking the smoke pauses out! You're right, you're a nonsmoker now. Having license to puff is just asking for trouble. And you managed a night out without smoking? WTG!

Modcat, 1.5 for two off weeks? I can gain 5 or 6 in that time, NP. And off again already? High fiiiiive! Swimming sounds really good to me. I'll have to get to a pool soon.

Shy :yes: -- absolutely, a lot of our stress is caused by not accepting the way things are. I know I've wasted a lot of time and energy fretting about this or that. And what's the use? So silly. Things are the way they are. I'm trying, every day, to reaffirm that I fully accept everything as it is.

Not to say that we don't want to change things -- we wouldn't be here otherwise -- but I feel like you can't really move on until you accept whatever your present circumstance is.

Likewise good advice about the small challenges. Or dogged persistence can get you far too. On a similar challenge thread, when I was trying to get going I'd sometimes come in and post Day 1 five or six times in a row before I ever made it through.

Jolly, where did you cruise to?

Red, I know it's hard to fight depression but that's the only way to beat it. What I always find -- and I do tend to feel depressed occasionally -- is that every positive action I make, taking charge of one tiny little area of my life, frees up a lot of energy and makes me feel less "stuck." :hug:

Apple, congrats on the five fluffies gone where the bad fluffies go! I'm curious about the variation in your goals in different months -- is that holiday-related?

I've got just about all my steps in, done a set of qi qong. I've got a date this afternoon for an interview, which will give me another several thousand steps. All on track. Tomorrow will see me at Day 7, huzzah.

Let's make this a good one!

09-14-2008, 12:53 PM
Well Red, I don't know what you're going through at present, but it doesn't seem to great.

Whenever my father has to make a list of things to do (which isn't often, because my mother usually does that ) he always starts with :wake up.
It's really something we take for granted, but I think that's about where I'm holding right now for my challenge: just wake up. If ANY other positive things get done - well, that's a bonus....

09-14-2008, 05:05 PM
hey all :wave: I just got back from a cruise to the Bahamas - Freeport and Nassau. Totally recommend it - it is a great way to treat yourself.

I have two new challenges, that I will start tomorrow, that will hopefully get me off my arse and back on track to lose the rest of what I need to.

1) Follow daily workout plan - level 2

2) No unauthorized sweets - level 2

Have a better day all.

Shy Moment
09-14-2008, 11:22 PM
Well, I think I am ready to start a new challenge. The knees are a bit better and I am going to have to take it easy on them but I am ready. I have got to get this weight back off so I can be back to where I was so I can go forward.

1. Record everything I eat or drink on fit day

2. Stay within 1200 to 1400 calories, 180 to 210 grams carbs and 30 to 35 grams fat.

3. Eat the required amounts of the four basic food groups

4. Have a snack everyday

My daughter will be 18 on the 4th. I told her I am going to be stuck with her forever. She is going to be an old maid and I am never going to get her married off. She only has a few more days until she is in the old maid category lol.

5. Exercise every weekday

Apple Blossom
09-15-2008, 03:20 AM
No Beer, Day 5, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 4, 2 pauses left
Modified South Beach phase 1, restart

Hey everyone. Not such a great week-end, but I think I can recover quickly. Didn't get the exercise in on Sat, and today I didn't do a run or a gym visit or anything, but I vigorously gardened for 4 (FOUR!!) hours and that should cover it! I can't believe I have only been on no beer for 5 days. Well, really 6 since today is almost over. There have been at least 3 days where I normally would of popped a cold one. Today is one of those days...:devil:But I didn't, so:p!Even though there is a whole case of the stuff sitting in my living room right now.....I'm almost at the point of no return, I've gone far enough that I won't do it because of all of the previous days I haven't. That's kind of the point of the challenge, isn't it?

Shy, good luck on your new challenges, they look good! I wish my daughter will stay with me forever. Of course, she's only 8. She's still cute to have around.
Jolly, welcome back from your cruise! I had forgotten you were vacationing and was worried law school was keeping you too busy for us. A 2 pound gain is nothing! You will be back on track in no time. What and when are you planning for your next race??
Arabella, sounds like you are doing great! Yes, the variations in goals has a lot to do with Thanksgiving and the usual mess December can be. But also because the last 3 pounds are going to be way harder to lose than the first 7.
Hello to beach, mod, RED (howzit going chica?!!) & miriam!
September..... 7 lbs
October..... 5 lbs
November..... 5 lbs
December.... 3 lbs

09-15-2008, 06:44 AM
209.6. A little beyond no-reason bump up -- I was perfect yesterday and got over 14000 steps in. So I AM sure that's temporary. (Don't worry about responding to this daily drizzle feed -- I just post it to keep me honest.)

I couldn't get to sleep for hours last night. Finally got up and got myself some warm milk (with a leetle scotch in it ;) ) and took a couple Tylenol and that did the trick, as it usually does. But I only ended up with about 5 hours sleep, which is not really enough for me. Tonight I've got choir practice and I want to go to tai chi class Tuesday night so I may end up in the same boat. Ah well. Once I get through to Wednesday I should be able to get in an early night. Reminding myself how crucial getting enough sleep is to this whole venture. If I can, I might try to get in a nap this aft. Man, this is boring. I might put myself to sleep right now. How are you doing? :yawn:

Miriam, I like that "wake up" idea. My sister and I often talk about how a sort-of persistent trance mode is what has allowed us to gain weight and stay overweight. Today I resolve to hear that finger snap and stay "awake."

Jollygirl, that cruise sounds wonderful -- I think I could use about a month of it. And you did fabulously more or less maintaining from what I hear about cruises and food. Congrats!

Shy, honey, why were you telling your daughter she was going to be an old maid and you were going to be stuck with her? You make me curious!

Apple, yeah I'd say your gardening counts. Thanks for the explanation of the goals. I had failed to notice that the combined sum would get you to GOAL, though. :cb: :cb: Go, YOU!

Right. I'm up early and at the computer so I can get an article finished by 5 p.m. and still get a full day's work in at my day job. So I'd best get out of here and start being productive.

Let's make this a good one!

09-15-2008, 10:31 AM
Mornin' gals.

Didn't post yesterday, just got busy. I made brownies and treats yesterday for a breast cancer fundraiser. Needless to say... I didn't stay within my points :^: So no more pauses! Good thing I'm in the home stretch with that one.

Shy - haha I'll be 29 on the 4th. Still not married! I think my mother just finally gave up on me. :D I suggested she become part of a big grandma program. Then her goddaughter had a little girl, so she gets to play the grandma role a little.

Arabella, how do you keep up with your steps? a pedometer? The ones I've tried don't seem to work all that well. Just curious.

Jolly - you did wonderful!! Me and my friend joke that we're going to have to lose an extra 15 lbs just so we can gain it back when we go!

:wave: miriam and Apple!

Personal Challenges: As of Sunday
18 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 0 Pause
8 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
16 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 0 Pauses

Shy Moment
09-15-2008, 05:52 PM
It was a joke people. Jeez doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore lol. Remember on the Beverly Hillbillies when Elli May was being told she was going to be an old maid. I think she was suppose to be 17 lol.

My daughter and I talk about how I am going to be stuck with my son forever. I can't let an unsuspecting female get involved with him. They have to be told how he keeps his room, how I have to scream for him to put his clothes in the laundry and stop wearing the same thing all the time so on and so on lol. I do not want a woman to take him and then come back to me in tears saying, " But you didn't tell me he leaves toothpaste everywhere and you didn't tell me he shaves in the shower and leaves shaving cream everywhere and you didn't tell me....." hehehe

Day 1
All challenges met

09-15-2008, 08:24 PM
HI EVERYBODY!!! :exercise:

Can I join the fun? I'm only 17 but I'm serious about changing my lifestyle. I've almost reached the final weight on my weight tracker, but that's only because I'm going in short bursts. It helps me with staying motivated. I probably have to lose around ten more pounds. Just so you know, I'm not obsessed with dieting or anything - I just really am fat..... Wow, THAT came out harsh. But I guess that's the truth and I better do something about it, right? My frame is average, even a little on the petite side, so even though I'm just on the edge of the 'overweight' chart, I know my body better than anyone and I say it's TIME TO CHANGE.

So here I am. I'm feeling psyched for the 21-day challenge! :running: :lifter:

My challenge is going to be eating normal-sized meals (only as much as my body really requires), getting some fresh air every day, and go to bed before midnight (I feel like that's messing with my eating habits a lot).

Of course, the 'going to bed earlier' rule will only apply if I finish my homework by that time. Because these are college admissions months and I may be up doing paperwork, resumes, etc. As for overeating, I've doing it for years now. I binge when my emotions get the best of me. I generally don't eat fast food: I had two slices of pizza about a month ago, and I don't remember the last time I had soda. I just eat too much: pasta, fruit, chocolate, snacks, practically any food imaginable, I can consume A LOT when I'm upset. That's the main reason why I've gained all this extra weight. Gotta get rid of it!


1. Eat healthy, proper-sized meals/ 2 pauses
2. Go out every day/ 1 pause
3. Lights out at midnight/ 3 pauses

Okay. I think that covers it. I believe that the most important part here is not to give up, no matter what. I've tried to chuck those pounds many, many times before. I lost some, then gained some. But I didn't give up and I'm trying again!

DAY ONE TOMORROW! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

WE CAN DO IT!!! :dust:


09-15-2008, 08:59 PM
Welcome, Slava! :welcome: Age is no factor around here. Your challenges sound great. One thing, however, 10 pounds overweight does NOT constitute "really am fat!" Please be aware there are people on this forum who need to lose hundreds of pounds. Yes, all is relative and your concerns are legitimate, but let's keep the self-admonishment out, for your sake and others. :) But just so you don't think I'm being hard on you....I do it too. ;)
Best of luck to you! :goodluck:

09-15-2008, 09:52 PM
Hello all. Well, I am going to start my new challenges tomorrow, as work came crashing in, and I decided to see if I can stress eat all 70 pounds I had lost back in one week :D

Beachlvr, I am going to be 38 next month, and still single!! :fr: My mom now buys for her "grand doggies" as she has decided that is all she is going to get :rofl:

That's all I got for now. I am heading to bed. I really need to get into a better routine SOON. :wave:

09-15-2008, 11:35 PM
redballoon, so sorry about that. I understand that there are people here who want to lose ten times as much as I do. And to everyone else, sorry if that was a bit rude of me, if completely unintentional... :sorry:

Well, goodnight! :tired: I need some eyedrops...


09-16-2008, 02:02 AM
Welcome Slava!

Yeah the emotional and stress eating is/was the hardest thing for me to master. (Well, besides really starting to like exercise!) I think maybe I've gotten that aspect pretty much under control, although I still struggle in my head with it. It's taken me nearly 40 years to learn how to re-direct or otherwise vent my emotions and stress into more productive habits. I know you'll be able to figure it out much sooner than I did!

Arabella-- :thanks:! Yeah, I'd worked hard and got it back off, then kinda slipped this week-end on the exercise and food discipline and now it's back! Oh well, just yo-yoing here, don't mind me!

And Shy--just to follow up on the previous topic of acceptance--one thing I have always agonized over was my body shape. I mean, my innate shape. I do not have, nor does anyone in my family have, those great runner/dancer LEGS. And I realize I'll never have them--just have a bigger butt and heavier thighs. I'll never be called leggy, or even slim. Typical pear shape, even when I was a bit too thin at 116 in college and you could see my ribs. But recently, I have just started accepting that that is my shape--it's not gonna change but it WILL look good when I am at goal weight. I will be fit, but curvy. Curvier more on the bottom than the top, but oh well.
And that has actually taken off a lot of my stress about losing weight that I'd had in the past. Being realistic about my goals is now making it easier to stick to them. And no more taping up pics of gorgeous celebrities or models that I know I'll never look like in a million years of dieting and a million dollars of plastic surgery! I am gonna look like ME, only BETTER! (sorry, just a little pep talk there, for ME!)

Anyway, gots to run--been on computer way too much tonight!

Exercise every day: Day 4 (1 pause left)
No Booze: Day 4 (1 pause left)
No processed junk food: Day 5 (2 pauses left)

Shy Moment
09-16-2008, 02:16 AM
I have people ask me if I wish I were taller a lot. Have no idea why people ask that lol. It isn't as if I am 2 foot tall lol. You know, to be honest I have never thought much about it lol. No, I have never wished I were more this or less of that lol. I was always happy just the way I was. Now, of course I want to get this extra weight off but other than that, I am happy with how I am. My daughter asked me not to long ago if I wished I were 20 again. I really didn't even have to think of the answer I gave her. I said, " No, I have no desire to be 20 again. I wish I still had the 25 years left to live that I have lived since I was 20 but I don't wish I were 20 again." Maybe it is the real reason I have very little stress in my life. That is not to say I never have stress in my life but I have always accepted things as they are. I can remember someone saying to me, " Wish in one hand, crap in the other and what do you have." lol. That is life lol. The one thing I have learned is that I have to watch more carefully what I eat when I am bored. I have to keep busy being bord is horrible for me because I find I want to eat just to have something to do.

Day two
Nice to be back in the challenge. The day was great. Lots to do and even made myself eat. I didn't bother to do any planned exercise today but that was just fine. I spend hours and hours stooping, stretching, lunging and carrying branches and sticks and leaves and apples. At the least the main part of the yard is clean now lol. I hate doing lunges so I made myself do them as I picked up 20 dozen apples off the ground today lol.

09-16-2008, 06:24 AM
208.8. And I can honestly say that I could not have been more on plan. So it'll eventually go.

Wow, the joint is hopping!

Welcome, Slava! This is a great thread for changing your behaviors. I know, even if you're not terribly overweight, that you don't want to binge. Sounds like if that was out of your life you'd never have to worry about your weight again.

Shy, sounds like you got plenty of exercise in your yard. Are your apples good?

Modcat, I like what you said about channeling that energy into productive habits. It makes all the difference in the world when I focus on using my energy and time productively instead of focusing on just controlling my eating.

Jollygirl, how well I know how work can plunge you into a food fest! I work from home and I've had days when I'm on serious deadlines where I spend the entire day cruising the kitchen between bouts of work. I felt that pull yesterday and even while I was resisting I was thinking "but will I be able to resist tomorrow?" Keep fighting the good fight!

Shy, y'know I figured it was a joke but it's so hard to tell sometimes in text, huh. I'm afraid that I turned my son loose before he was house-trained. But from what I can see, his girlfriend's mom did likewise.

Beach, 29 and not married? Sheesh, most of us have been through our first husbands by then. :lol: I do use a pedometer. It's an Omron one ( and I highly recommend it. It keeps track of your steps a month at a time and then lets you download the data to software. You can see exactly how you're doing on calories expended, steps etc. You set goals and it compares. My husband gave it to me for Christmas last year and it's really helped me stay motivated to get the steps in.

Okay, here goes another good day! Let's make this one count. :hyper:

09-16-2008, 07:01 AM
Okay Folks, time to pull up my socks.

1) Eat 3 meals a day at least (i.e. - no starving and no all-day fare) - 3 pauses
2) Eat before 10 am - 1 pause
3) Read the serenity prayer - even without internalizing, hahah - 2 puases

let's see how it goes. i want ot lose this weight, get out of the diabetes category altogether - if possible... Last blood test showed that my cholesterol has more or less stabilized and my B12 actually exists, and glucose has gone back to pre-diabetic. I don't want to even be PRE diabetic... And I gained back nearly 6 lbs back of what I lost! Darnit!!!

09-16-2008, 06:28 PM
Hello all. Not sure how often I will be able to post - the IT guy needed to keep my computer. He says they will get it working again, but . . . my baby :fr:

I need to go study. I did meet my goals for today. Hurray. It was easier to eat properly after last night's run, so that is something too.

Later gators. :wave:

09-16-2008, 06:29 PM
Miriam--Your first challenge sounds like me--it's either feast or famine many times with my diet. Some day's when I'm good, I'm oh so good! Other days--I can't stop putting things in my mouth.....

Shy--my cousin is in Cincinatti area--now without power. I imagine her yard is a mess, also. But hey, I''ll take some of those apples.......

Jolly--I think I may HAVE stress-ate on 70 lbs--just took me a while longer than 1 week to do it, hehe!

Arabella--I'm gonna look for that (Omron)--I've had some in the past that I've been disappointed with. I think that would be yet another good motivating tool.....

beach--now you've got me thinkin' about bro:censored: oops!

Hi Red, Apple, Slava

feel good today so far--did spin class and ab lab and tonight is TBL for more motivation--yaay!

Apple Blossom
09-16-2008, 07:28 PM
No Beer, Day 7, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 6, 2 pauses left
Modified South Beach phase 1, restart

Hmmm, am I ever going to actually start this South Beach thing? I'm still on track for the most part but my "modifications" are seeming more like"cheats" to me. I don't know. I'll decide at the end of the week when I officially weigh in. If there's a loss, I'll keep going with it.
I am truly amazed at my ability to resist beer. I have had a few more stressful
days but I'm staying away! :encore:
Jolly, transitions are always tough, you'll be into a routine soon!
Oops-thought I'd have more time to catch up-but I have to run. Hi everyone!
September..... 7 lbs:hat::hat::hat::hat::hat:
October..... 5 lbs
November..... 5 lbs
December.... 3 lbs

09-17-2008, 07:44 AM
Apple, you are doing fantastic on the brew!!!! Good for you! :bravo:
Hey, all. I am still here and doing OK, but not ready to commit to anything on here just yet. I am hoping I will be ready for that soon. In the meantime, please carry on and know that I am thinking of you all and wishing you all the best with your challenges and with LIFE! :yes:


09-17-2008, 08:07 AM
Morning all!

Welcome Slava! :wave:

Hi Red! Good to hear from you!!

Jolly - I want a puppy so bad!! I live in an itty bitty apartment right now, so I'll have to wait till I get a house. Or get an itty bitty dog.

Thanks for the info Arabella. I got out my brookstone pedometer yesterday and gave it another try, but I think it's off. I walked 3.6 miles and it registered a little over 7000 steps. I know I walk at a speed of about 23 steps per 1/100th of a mile. It doesn't add up. I looked at the one you mentioned online - very affordable. I think I may ask for it for my birthday! :)

mod - if it makes you feel better, they were awful, just awful. Worst thing I ever put in my mouth. Yuck!!! :barf:

Well, with my challenges quickly coming to the 21 day mark, I'm trying to think of new ones. I have to say I'm discouraged with the lack of loss. It seems to fluctuate between the same 2-3 lbs. I'm being sooo good. But I keep telling myself, I'm healthier and that matters too!! I downloaded couch to 5k on my ipod last night. Has any one had any experience with it?

Personal Challenges: As of Tuesday
20 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 0 Pause
10 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
18 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 0 Pauses

09-17-2008, 09:15 AM
Sigh. Redoing Day 8 and that's all my pauses. I was tired all day yesterday and just never managed to exercise. Didn't have any dietary issues though, so that's good.

Sorry for the fly-by -- have a great day, everyone!

09-17-2008, 11:59 AM
beach--there is a C23K thread on here--I was doing it with the group--they may still be doing it--but I didn't download it--just did what they said to do every week. It frankly was moving a little too slowly for me, so I just went for it and did the Labor day 5K with running combined with walking and finished around 50 minutes. I've now signed up for the Oct. 5K here to beat that time.

But it is good--some people were complaining it ramps up too fast. But then, they just did over that week until they were able to move on. I think it really helps to have something in your ear telling you when to stop and when to walk, etc. I just measured out a 5K distance around my home, and sometimes do it at the gym on the treadmill.

exercise everyday--Day 6
no booze--Day 6
no junk food--Day 7

gots to go!!!

Shy Moment
09-17-2008, 03:33 PM
You are doing great. My challenges pretty much stay the same every time. I just improve them a bit. Sometimes it is a challenge just to stick to the challenges lol. I have a little ****tzu you would think that little dog wouldn't take up much room lol. Good thing I have this huge old house she takes up all the space she can get lol.

You need to make a plan that is for you. You don't want to feel like you are cheating but maybe you aren't cheating. If the plan is working for you then it is a good plan lol.

Sometimes day to day is all we can do. You keep going day to day and you will still get to where you want to be.

There are a great deal of people still without power because they sent all of our darn repair men to worse areas before it hit us. There are even a great deal of people in the little town I live in still without power. The apples are ok you just have to pick and choose which ones you keep when you are picking them up. But if you take any you have to pick ALL of them up lol.

I am so glad I can build and work on my own computer lol.

Here are so rubber bands to help hold those socks up. You know what you need to do and you know you can do it. Can't wait to hear how that 6 pounds is gone and you are once again going forward.

The kids like them. Some look nice some don't. Have both red and yellow. The trees need sprayed but I haven't done that in years. Young people these days. Oh my gosh, I could clean a house and cook full meals before I was 10. My daughter could make a full thanksgiving meal by the time she was 10, roasting a turkey and all. Most of my daughters friends don't even know how to turn on a stove lol. They say the way to a mans heart is through his stomach. No wonder young people don't stay married long these days lol.

09-17-2008, 04:17 PM
Hi all

1)3 meals - day 0
2)eat before 10 - day 0
3)read serenity prayer - day 1 - heck - to be honest - that's probably the most significant challenge for me right now!!!

Rennie - you had lots to say to all of us - how are YOU doing?? :)

Shy Moment
09-17-2008, 05:46 PM
I am doing just fine lol. I am one of those people that sticks to things so getting off plan isn't even an option. Sometimes I just get very tired of it all. Usually things just go day to day and I don't think much about it. Then, all of a sudden, I will have a few days that it seems like weighing and measuring and worrying about what I eat is all I do lol. I am sure glad those days don't come to often. Right now I am getting this weight back off that the meads put back on me. I won't reach my goal by the end of the year and I did weep in my tea for a few days over that but I am ok now. I am really looking forward to my anniversary next year because I should hit goal by then.

Day 3
All challenges met

09-17-2008, 06:12 PM
Hi everyone I'm new to this particular thread. Fairly new to 3FC too. As you can see I haven't lost any weight yet but I'm trying. I want to lose some weight before I move away from home to go to law school in a year. In any case, everyone seems to be doing wonderful and very supportive so I think this is a place I want to be. I'm going to start a couple of challenges so here goes:

Challenge 1: Exercise everyday- day 0
Challenge 2: No eating out- day 0

Apple Blossom
09-18-2008, 02:33 AM
Hi hborden! Welcome! You have chosen 2 really great challenges to start with! Good luck!!

Shy, you have great self control and commitment to your goal. I am sure you will be HOT for your anniversary!:cool: We have a huge apple tree. The apples are just OK to eat, but the kids seem to like munching on them. I pay them a penny per apple to pick them up. I have shelled out over $20 this year! They are getting tired of the chore inspite of the income opportunity. Thank goodness they are almost gone. On to pomegranate season!

Miriam...waiting for lift off! You can do it!
Mod & beach-I have to say that I had a hard time with C25K also. I need longer periods of running. I didn't know you could listen to it on mP3. What a cool idea. I'd love to get that nike running thing that's out. Birthday gift hint hint.
Hi Red! Thanks, and good to hear from you. Take your time. It's nice knowing that you are still checking in.

No Beer, Day 8, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 7, 2 pauses left
Modified South Beach phase 1, restart !
Well, I spent OVER 2 HOURS at the dentist today, getting a root canal. Fun stuff. And she didn't finish!!! I have to go back!! The good news is that the procedure seems to have cured my sensitivity problem. (I haven't been able to use half my mouth to eat for over a year.) The tooth hurts a bit, especially since my day has finally quieted down and I can feel sorry for myself. Ughh. Long day. I still have to get some exercise in tonight, so I'm off to do that now. Later, Chicks!
September..... 7 lbs
October..... 5 lbs
November..... 5 lbs
December.... 3 lbs

09-18-2008, 07:31 AM
209.2. Maaaaaan, when will this plateau end? I've been doing everything I need to do, feel good about that but... c'mon, scales! Official WI is tomorrow and I'm going to go whether I've lost or not. :yes:

Tomorrow night will be a bit of a challenge. It's a big family party. I've been thinking, well, that'll be the end of this stretch of days. But today I'm reminding myself that it doesn't have to be. I've got scads of points at my disposal if I want to use them and all I've got to do is track my intake. Of course, not the easiest thing, to whip out pen and paper and record every bite in the middle of a party. :chin: Then again, that might just help me. Anyway, I'm going to give it a shot.

Shy, you have a huge old house? :love: That's my favorite kind! How huge and how old?

Apple, oooouuuch! Hope your mouth feels all better soon!

hborden :welcome: Those look like worthy challenges.

Miriam, I know what you mean about the serenity prayer. Meditation is the hardest item on my list :rolleyes: And I really do think these things that help control our stress levels are crucial for weight loss.

Modcat, is that training audio something you download to an MP3 player? It sounds great! What is it? I just slog along, myself, but I'd like to get into interval training because it's supposed to be so effective.

Beach, I'd love to have a dog, too. Not sure the cat would be so enthusiastic, though...

Red, thinking of you! I feel like you're marshalling your forces. :hug: Hang in there!

Jolly, hope computer woes are solved soon!

I'm just getting ready for a run through the woods here. Tonight i intend to take in tai chi class. Not to mention I've got to shop, cook and make a fire-breathing dragon cake for DGS' birthday tomorrow... Yikes!

Let's make this a good one!

09-18-2008, 02:25 PM
Arabella - I know how you feel. I've been up and down with the same 3 lbs for the last month. And I've been doing so well. BUT, last night I went to find some new work out pants and I realized I had dropped a pant size!! I had a little moment in the womens dressing room. So then I spent the next hour trying on cocktail dresses. Why I don't know. I guess cause I could. Sorry to babble, but the point it... maybe you are loosing inches as well!

Apple - I listened to the first week of C25K today at lunch, just so I would know what to expect this evening. I soo see it taking me twice as long. But I'm ok with that. If the end result is me being able to jog a 5k, I'm all for it!

:welcome2: hborden!! Good luck on your challenges!

I love ****tzu's, Shy! I have a friend who has one and he is soo sweet. I've asked her if she minded cloning him for me.

Hope you ladies are all doing well!!

Personal Challenges: As of Wednesday
21 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 0 Pause
11 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
19 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 0 Pauses

09-18-2008, 11:30 PM
Arabella--I'm sure you've found it already, but if not--it's at the website. I didn't download it, just guesstimated with a timer, but then found I wanted to do more running. I had been already running with trainer on treadmill up to 10 minutes w/o stopping, so I just skipped ahead, to try my first 5K with 3-4 periods of walking. But I think it is truly helpful for those just starting out.

Welcome hborden! Law school huh? Good Luck!

Apple--ugh--no one likes root canals--even I! Glad to know you will be able to eat on BOTH sides of your mouth soon, though!

Miriam--I'm trying to reduce the ol' stress with a type of serenity prayer as well--I like how it makes me feel when I do get to it.

beach--you can be godmother to my 3 dogs--2 mutts and a Shiba Inu (a Japanese dog that looks like a red fox. She is so cute and such a personality!) One day you'll have one of your own.

Shy--I love old houses as well--we renovated one in IL from top to bottom and it was a chore--and it wasn't even that old. The original part of it was a 1926 one-room schoolhouse, with two additions so pretty neat, anyway. 12 foot ceilings, 13-inch thick brick walls with plaster-and-lathe, very tall groupings of windows, old coal chute in basement, etc.

Hi Red! Hi Slava, Jolly, others

Shy Moment
09-18-2008, 11:57 PM
Good luck on your challenges and welcome

I pay my children DINNER to pick up the apples lol. I go out there early in the morning to get them picked up because I am allergic to the bees. If I don't get to them they get to pick them up lol. I am leaving in the morning for our last camping weekend won't be home until sunday night come time. They are not happy they get to pick up apples every morning. If they are not picked up the only thing they will get to do is breath lol. They think camping is boring so I gave them something to do while I was gone lol. So sorry about your tooth. Hope you feel better soon. I have a dentist you just love to hate lol.

The one part of it was built in 1900 the other parts here and there lol. Remodeling one room at a time. My gosh it costs a ton just to buy the stuff to fix it up. Sure glad we can do the work our selfs. I am a little flower and do not get dirty. Nor do I do anything that might cause me to break a nail. On the other hand I am a tight fisted skint flint and am sure not going to pay anyone to do anything I can do myself lol. Good thing my father didn't have any boys and we built our own house isn't it lol. Sometimes having to keep track of what we need no matter where we are makes us eat less. Good luck.

Bella is just a darling. I feel so bad for the lady that couldn't keep her anymore. Bella just turned 2 this month, I have only had her a few months. I was so very sad when I had to have my lab put to sleep. While Bella can't take her place and I am still sad from time to time. I love her dearly and she sure has filled up a spot that was very very sad.

There was a little hole in the living room wall. By the time we could fix it we had to tear your just about 1/2 the wall and found chicken feathers for insulation lol.

day 4
All challenges met

09-19-2008, 06:56 AM
208.6. Yep, 1/5 of a pound down from last week's WI. :dz: I just have to maintain the faith that it will come off. And maybe try to think of what I can do differently. :shrug: Maybe try to get more exercise?

Shy, your house sounds great. Our house was built in the twenties but it doesn't quite have the features of the turn-of-the-century houses. Chicken feathers? :lol: Well, I guess they would insulate.

Modcat, thanks for the URL! I'll have to check it out.

Beach, I think my pants are looser -- maybe that is part of it. Nevertheless, I'm ready for a little encouragement from :devil: scale.

I've got a party to go to tonight and I am girding my loins right this minute to stay strong. I mean, it's this hard to make progress when I'm behaving perfectly. I can't afford to mess up! I'm making a plan...

09-19-2008, 02:03 PM
All I can say about my first experience with the couch 2 5k is... ha! hahaha!!
I started out with the first run feeling confident and excited. About 16.5 seconds into it, I realized that this is not for 28 years of couch to 5k. It is more like 'already in pretty good shape to 5k.' Not to discourage anyone from trying it! I plan on sticking with it through the end, but sheesh! You are also supposed to be able to carry on a conversation while running. Well that didn't happen either. Man am I in bad shape! I've been walking about 3.6 miles for the last couple of weeks, but running hasn't been a part of that. Anywho! I've got to start somewhere, and it helps to have structure.

Arabella, I'm about one weigh in away from breaking my scales over the sink. I understand completely. I NEED to see those numbers go down as hard as I'm working.

Shy & Mod - Your doggies sound so sweet! I'm glad they bring you so much joy! Can't wait to have one of my own!

I was reflecting last night on the last couple of weeks, and I feel like my new healthy lifestyle has consumed me. My schedule consists of:
Wake up;get ready for work; finish getting my lunch together; go to work;go to gym;go home and cook my healthy dinner;start preparing my healthy lunch for tomorrow;clean up;update all of my exercise/weight trackers, 3fc stuff. Go to bed.
I don't understand how people with husbands and children do it. Is this just because I'm starting out? Will it soon become second nature and I won't give it a second thought?

Personal Challenges: As of Thursday
22 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 0 Pause
12 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
20 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 0 Pauses

09-19-2008, 06:15 PM
beach--I've often thought the same thing--what in the world would I do if I had young children? And what if hub wasn't around all the time to help with them? On top of a job, or school, or taking care of an elderly parent, some people's lives here are so crazy busy--it really makes me feel lazy! I guess one just rises to the occasion if need be.

I know I'd need to be much more organized and planned out than I am now. I have a hard enough time keeping on my exercise schedule, and my new resolve to stop eating out so much and fix healthy dinners at home more. I haven't made that a "challenge" yet, but I should. But that takes planning, and shopping, not to mention preparation! :dizzy:

But I'm trying. I swear the stores near me are getting very used to me coming in in my work-out clothes all sweaty with my raggedy hat on my hair after the gym! I don't even care anymore--I probably am not that recognizable anyway! (At least I hope not!) :crossed:

Anyway, finished my training session for today.

Now to pay attention to my hub--he's feeling neglected......

09-19-2008, 09:16 PM
mod - your dogs are so cute!!
I know what you mean about the grocery store. I always go after the gym cause I don't feel hungry at all and I don't buy junk. I actually made a promise to myself that I wouldn't eat out lunch at ALL during the week, and only 1 dinner out during the week. For health reasons and financial. I have to start paying off student loans very shortly and I'm doing away with all the luxuries. It really wasn't as hard as I thought. I compared this months statement with last months and I've saved about $100. Even with the little extra I spent on groceries. And I wondered where all I money went!!!

Well, I'm posting my daily challenges cause I'm about to go to bed. I've completed 2 out of 3!! Well, I haven't 'completed' them, I'll never be done. But I guess now it's a habit? And it's almost been two weeks since a smoke!!

Goodnight ladies, hope you have a wonderful weekend!

Personal Challenges: As of Friday
23 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 0 Pause
13 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
21 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 0 Pauses

09-20-2008, 10:04 AM
209.6. I had a few rice noodles last night as well as a sliver of cake and a few gumdrop spearmint leaves -- dipped in buttercream frosting. These last two items were taken in while I was cleaning up the kitchen after coming home from the party. :rolleyes: Yup, Day 1.

On the bright side, though, I ended up .2 away from ticker yesterday morning. AND... drumroll, please: I was at 40 pounds off on the nose when I went to my official WI. 1.5 off in the week by their scales. Huzzah!

Here's my plan. I'm going to give myself 3 pauses. I'm actually pretty pleased by my pauses and even the end of the last challenge at Day 10 because none of them were catastrophic. Just off-plan.

I'm adding more steps and removing meditation from the mix. I'm still going to try to do it but not going to consider my day a failure if I don't.

At least 12,500 steps a day


3L water a day

Either yoga or tai chi daily (ideally, both)

Daily weigh-in

Daily report

8-10 servings fruit/veggies

Beach & modcat, it's funny -- I feel kind-of the opposite, like I've got more usable time and mental energy when I get going on my weight-loss efforts. Less time thinking about food gives me more time to think about other things. Plus I feel less "stuck" and have more energy and will to tackle problem areas in my life.

:lol: I enjoyed reading about your running experiences, Beach. I've got a Turbo Jam DVD my son gave me that I'm afraid to put on and find out how pathetic I am.

K, I'm on :cof2: #3. Seems to be bringing me back to life. Then I'd better get out the door and :running:

Have a fabulous, succesful Saturday, all. :cb:

09-20-2008, 10:15 PM
Arabella, Sounds like you had a good day! :bravo:

I didn't get my work out in today. I got up at 3:00 am to go stand in line for some concert tix. I came home and crashed for a couple of hours. I think my legs needed the rest anyway. There was a young couple behind me (high school or college) who basically made out the entire time. I'm not a morning person to begin with, and on top of that I just got out of a relationship. It wasn't a pleasant morning to say the least.

:wave: Red, Apple, mod, shy! Hope ya'll are doing well!

My Challenges - Beginning Sunday
0 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 3 Pauses
14 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
0 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

09-20-2008, 10:18 PM
Hey all. Real quick message from here. After more than a week, an ulcer or two, and much gray hair, it appears my computer is finally up and running again. Hurrah!!!

Hope everyone is well. I need to refine and restart some challenges, as i have been a putz. Will write more later. TAke care :wave:

09-21-2008, 04:42 AM
1) 3 meals - day 3
2) eat before 10 - day 3
3) serenity prayer - day 5

Just a flyby - I'm at work! Have a great weekend

09-21-2008, 06:10 AM
208.4. I did have a good day yesterday, complete with 14,259 steps. Officially categorized as "very active." :cp:

I had breakfast late and missed lunch so my fruits and veggies were a little on the low side. I was making a big green salad for dinner with brown rice pasta & pesto and figured I could count a good six servings out of that but that still left me two shy. But I had a handful of baby carrots and a small glass of grapefruit juice before dinner, so I made it. Huzzah. (I can just barely imagine how fascinating this must be to read :yawn: )

Beach, what a perfectly horrid thing to have to face so early in the morning! Lining up at that hour would be my idea of **** anyway. Ugh. Hope the concert makes it up to you in spades!

Jolly girl: "I need to refine and restart some challenges, as i have been a putz." :lol: I'll have to remember that one for my next fall from grace.

Miriam, evabody: :wave:

Hope everyone has a fabulous Sunday!

09-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Arabella:" I had breakfast late and missed lunch so my fruits and veggies were a little on the low side. I was making a big green salad for dinner with brown rice pasta & pesto and figured I could count a good six servings out of that but that still left me two shy. But I had a handful of baby carrots and a small glass of grapefruit juice before dinner, so I made it. Huzzah. (I can just barely imagine how fascinating this must be to read )"
:lol3: :rofl:

Beach--WTG on the no smoking thing! :cp::cp: That is a TRUE accomplishment!!

Jolly: Been there, done that. I can't quite keep up with my tally with my pauses and all, but suffice to say I am still working on the the spirit of this thing. I have exercised every day but one since Monday, junk-food/processed food challenge is going well, and the alcohol? Well, I think I will have to quit that one. :yikes: There are too many days when I want a glass of wine or out with another couple for a dinner and want a drink. I don't have a problem with it--was just trying to cut out something with empty calories. Generally never have more than one, anyway. But it is stressing me out to constantly "fail" at this challenge, so my new challenge will be:

To actually "make" from "scratch" dinner 5 days/week. This leaves me with two eves. to go out with hub or friends, and also requires me to think and plan ahead, not just come home and pull something out of the freezer or stop by the take-out deli and pick up some sandwiches. It really doesn't take much time if you have the ingredients and inspiration for a quick 30-45 minute meal. I have been watching a lot of Food Network shows for the quick/easy meal ideas.

I will check back in with everyone later!

09-21-2008, 05:30 PM
Hi Arabella, Mod, Beach, Jolly, Rennie, Apple & of course, Red!

How y'all doing?

Mod- if you catch any good (veg) recipies - let me know!

Arabeela - WTG on the steps! I sit down almost all day. My mom got me a pedometer - but it was a crummy $1 from ebay, so it would count steps while I was sitting and doing nothing. Hmmm. Didn't put much faith in it! LOL

Beach - I see yaon the couch to 5k - haha, made me laugh. I also get all gung ho suddenly about exercising and after a few secs am ready to pass out....

Jolly - how's school? hw's your computer? How's your look on life doing?

09-21-2008, 05:42 PM
Okay, everyone, as is the tradition, I start a new thread when I personally start a new challenge.

Below is a short explanation of how this challenge works so all you newcomers can take a look and decide if you're game or not! I hope you are! Hop aboard and enjoy the ride. We've got a great bunch of supportive people, so I hope you'll give us a try. A lot of people try for a while and then disappear.. I hope some of you will keep trying. There is NO shame in starting over. Remember, it's not over till you give up. And our motto around here is:

NEVER GIVE UP!!...Just start OVER!!


It works like this: you decide you'll do something for 21 days straight, every single day, so keep it doable. Then you count through 21.....and if you flub it, you MUST go back to zero and start over again. Everyone will be on different days. You can start anytime. At the beginning of the challenge you declare what level it is -- Level 1, 2, or 3. Level 1 means you feel it's a relatively easy challenge for you and means you only give yourself ONE pause day (see explanation of pause days below). Level 2 would give you two pause days and so on...
And taking NO pause days is what I'm going to call "aceing a challenge," as in "I'm aiming on aceing this one!" Yowzah!! :cb:

With a pause day you pause in your counting and continue the next day with the number you left off with. Pause days are NOT substitutes for days, i.e. Day 12 -- Day 13 -- Pause Day -- Day 14..... I suggest taking a pause day late in the game (better to go back to Day 1 early on) if you need a break or screw up when you're well into the challenge, meaning, when you're on Day 15 or something like that.

In any case, the trick is to keep going. The momentum builds and it's great incentive to stick to your guns, cause if you don't.........back to START you go. :( And the really great thing about this challenge is that you are forming new habits that will wipe out the old! AND, you get to do it with a great bunch of really supportive people to whom you are accountable! :grouphug:


In the interest of maintaining structure, a sense of solidarity and facilitating support I ask anyone who wishes to join this thread to please strive to follow the following guidelines while participating in this challenge and in posting.

1. Although this is a fabulous support group, the focus is to be on your CHALLENGE/S and/or other people's challenge/s AND weight loss, whether your challenge is about it or not. Please keep the challenge a priority, although we welcome chattiness! :lol: This means tell us what day you're on when you post and it's a good idea to make regular mention of just what your challenge is. This an action-based thread. Our members are ON a challenge, RESTARTING a challenge, or just in between and looking to start up again REAL SOON. ;) We also welcome posts from admirers, encouragers, and old friends!

2. Please refrain from posting food logs or recipes, except where you are really looking for help and advice on your eating. If journaling is your challenge, please keep the journaling off the thread and in a notebook or blog and just tell us if you've done what you set out to do. We have ALL types of dieters here, low-carb, high-carb, low-fat, high-fat, vegetarians, meat-lovers...please use simple mentions if you have something you want to share and then links and/or private messages to do so.

3. Please do NOT go into glowing accounts of any slipups, food indulgences or binges, what we here call "food porn." Simple mentions are fine, but use of smilies :censored: :tape: etc. as substitutes where possible is encouraged.

4. Please keep this a secular thread. Of course, passing references to your beliefs, a bit of introduction about your beliefs, brief faith-related words of encouragement are fine. :angel:

5. Please show support, support, support! This is key. :grouphug: You can waffle on about yourself but please, at least occasionally,come up and look around at others and what they are doing and MENTION it with words of encouragement and/or praise or sympathy. We understand "busy," poor computer connections, and bouts of self-pity and life problems where the focus turns to "me" and dealing with those problems, but these should be temporary, not a habit! ('cept in the computer case.)

In conclusion, let me say, the above are just that, GUIDELINES. Please realize that these guidelines have been added in an attempt to keep this a supportive and beneficial thread, at the LEAST, to those who need it MOST, those for whom weight loss is the hardest and, more often than not, the most crucial as well as for those who still, perhaps despite great success, know all too well that the road they walk will always be a slippery one. :^:

The guidelines are also meant to cultivate an atmosphere of consideration and concern for ALL, not individually, but AS A GROUP.

Well, all's said. Please join us!! :wave:

I am so grateful for the opportunity to join a group of like-minded individuals embarking on a 21-day challenge. I'm a 45 year old mom of two (14 and 12) confronting for the first time in a very very long time the unmistakeable fact that I am now 30 pounds overweight. For this 21 day challenge I am committing to walk two miles a day or more, and to stay true to my morning pranayama (breath technique) practice. Also, I pledge to continue tracking all my calories and activities in the fitday log. Nice to meet you all, best luck, love and much compassion.

09-21-2008, 09:24 PM
:welcome2: DMO!! Best of luck on your 21 day challenge. Hope you'll stop in often!

Hi Miriam, :wave: how are YOU doing? I seem to do better jogging on the treadmill than I do on pavement. I guess because i know if I stop the treadmill will fling me across the room, knocking out the people behind me. :tread: And I'm not sure what genius thought to put the treadmills in the FRONT, but I'm sure that everyone behind me loves seeing my big butt jiggling. Must have been a man. A butt man at that.

Thanks Mod! I'm so excited I've finally quit. I haven't had a very active social life lately. I've had to stay away from the parties and bars, those seem to be my big triggers. I'm sure it will be so worth it in the long run.
Good luck on your new challenge. I'm not sure if freezing meals counts as cooking, but It saves me a lot of time.

Today was just about as bad as yesterday. Last night I found that my bedroom carpet was soaked. I thought it was my hot water heater. My maintenance guy came over this morning (and was here most of the day) and found out it wasn't the water heater, but the sewer line had backed up!! I was walking around in toilet water!!! :barf:

:woohoo: Way to go, very active Arabella!!! That has a nice ring to it. ;)

I hope everyone has a wonderful week!

09-22-2008, 08:36 AM
208 flat, lowest recorded weight since July which was lowest in probably just about six years. I'm SO excited to be approaching Onederland. :woohoo: (again, but we needn't speak of that).

Day 3 today, 3 pauses left.

I got over 14000 steps again yesterday. I think that's my unofficial goal. Yeah, I do like the sound of that "very active" -- sure sounds like something that would lead one to "not overweight," doesn't it. :chin: Unless, of course, one compensated :cbg:

Modcat, your :cheers: goal is like my meditation one -- worthy, but if it's not happening -- well, as long as we're successful in our other challenges we'll lose weight. Gotta think of the bottom line.

Miriam, yeah, the sitting all day will getcha. I'm trying to make a point of getting up every hour or so and at least doing something around the house -- ya never know, i could even accomplish something!

DMO :welcome: And namaste! :yoga:

Beach, ewwwwwwwww! Hope all is fixed soon.

Wow, I admire you so much for tackling the weight at the same time as quitting smoking. I could always quit smoking pretty easily. Mind you, I'd gain 30 pounds. And then I'd start smoking again, lose some of it, quit smoking, gain back... you get the pic, I'm sure. Last time I quit was about 19 years ago and I've been struggling to get back to goal weight ever since.

Wow. I don't think I fully realized that. Not coincidentally, same amount of time I've been with DH.

On that note, I must be off. Let's make this a good one!

09-22-2008, 02:10 PM
Wowee Arabella - looks like you're very close to reaching onederland by october!! good for you!!

1) 3 meals - day 4
2) eat b4 10 - day 4
3) read serenity - day 6

09-22-2008, 04:23 PM
Hi, all. DM here (That's what they call me, like BJ), a 45 year old mom of two. I thought I posted here yesterday responding to the 21 day challenge but don't see my missive so here goes again. I'm committing to 21 days of walking at least 2 miles a day and of doing my regular pranayama (yogic breathing technique) practice. That and to sticking with my food tracking on the fitday website. Good luck to you all. Hats off especially to those abstaining from alcohol. I know that can be a tough grind, but you go. You're inspiration for all of us. Blessings, DMO

09-22-2008, 08:16 PM
:welcome3: DM! Glad you could join us! This thread is a nice manageable one, and a good place to put on paper some of your resolutions/challenges/goals and try to stick with them for 3 weeks. Your challenges seem very worthy, very healthy and attainable. Good Luck!

Arabella--you rock the weight loss! You are on a roll, it seems! Good inspiration to us all! :yay:

beach--yeah I find outside is a whole new ball game. Uneven ground, curbs, slight elevation changes you don't even see, the scenery, the sun......
The treadmill has always been easier for me also, but I guess that's why it's good to sometimes mix it up and Get Outside! :running:

And yeah, I think freezing some meals would count. I actually forgot to account for leftovers. Like tonight--I made a great dinner yesterday with grilled chx, fresh green beans, roasted garlic potatoes with shallots. Now I have leftovers. So I am going to chop up the rest of the chicken, potatoes, green beans, (all already flavored so yummy) add a coarsely chopped tomato and mayo and have a sort of chick salad on romaine leaves. Or hub could have it as a sandwich. So, not exactly a totally new meal, but still not take-out or frozen pizza!

Miriam--I will look for some--I am also trying to wean DH off of so much meat. I had an idea about a year ago to go one day completely meat/fish free every week--it lasted about two weeks :D But I've been thinking about doing more of those now--healthier for our hearts, etc. We do do an awesome veg chili--of course, we top it with cheese, but I guess you could skip that!

To close: "And I'm not sure what genius thought to put the treadmills in the FRONT, but I'm sure that everyone behind me loves seeing my big butt jiggling. Must have been a man. A butt man at that."

:rofl: You guys just crack me up! I :love: this site!

09-22-2008, 09:37 PM
Evening' Gals!

Today was a good day! I did my couch 2 5k outside and plus some. I've found that when I exercise outside I puff up like a blow fish. Really! I couldn't get my ring off my finger this afternoon. I wonder why that is.

Oh Mod, all of that sounds delicious. I could make a meal in itself with just green beans and mashed potatoes. My favs!

Arabella!!! Woohoo!!! :carrot::cp: I'm so excited for you!! So how are you going to reward yourself when you hit Onederland?

I think it's been easier to stop smoking this go around. I guess because i'm so focused on eating right and exercising:exercise:. I just don't think about it much.

miriam - I found a pretty good Eggplant Casserole recipe I made yesterday. Very simple and yummy :eating2: If you like Eggplant.

:wave: jolly and DMO!!

oh btw.. weight in today and I lost 2.2 lbs!! :high:

My Challenges - As of Sunday
1 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 3 Pauses
15 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
1 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

Apple Blossom
09-23-2008, 01:45 AM
No Beer, Day 13, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 11, 1 pause left
Hi! I didn't realize it had been so long since my last post! Wow, it looks like an ace going for the no beer, eh? I SOOO want a beer right now. Grrr. And as usual, it doesn't seem to be making any difference. Grrr again. I dropped the modified south beach thing until further notice. maybe I'll stealth it...
Modcat-you nailed me, young kids, elderly parents and a husband who travels a lot. I am going to be insane pretty soon, especially if those old folks don't shape up soon. I spent half the day at the dr. with my father-in-law and the other half trying to get my mother to behave. She seems to be going through some sort of depression. might be time for some happy drugs.:dizzy:
beach, congrats on the loss!
Oh, by the way, since Red is on a break I'm going to step in and remind you guys not to post any food porn! Even if you ARE making good choices, it's best for all of us if we just:censored:the food stuff. Thanks.
September.....7 pounds:hat::hat::hat::hat::hat:
October....5 pounds
November.... 5 pounds
December....3 pounds

09-23-2008, 02:11 AM
Mod - i'd love the recipe for the veg chili - yum! i spent 7 years of my childhood in texas,so tex mex definitely rates quite high on my list!

Butt man - LOL

Beach - i haven't worn my rings for almost a year now - i swell terribly in the heat. and since it's almost always hot here.... you are getting SO close to onderland!!

I came home from work at 3 AM and i am a zombie from ****. ttyl

09-23-2008, 06:46 AM
208.2. And on with Day 4. I've got three days of 14k+ steps a day in. My official goal is only 12,500 but it seems like I get there and think "Well, it's not so hard to get another 1,500 steps so why don't I just go for it."

Dear Zombie from ****... oops, I mean Miriam ;) What do you do? 3 a.m. is kind of brutal, huh. I used to work as a waitress and the owner wouldn't close as long as there were people wanting to come in. So sometimes by the time we got cleaned up and got out of there ... we saw some beautiful sunrises. :tired:

Blossom, hang onto that sanity, no matter how tempting it is just to let it go. :crazy:

I thought the "food porn" prohibition was just against loving descriptions of off-wagon forays? It makes sense to me that sharing ideas for healthy meals -- even recipes -- is helpful.

Beach, I'm not sure about how to reward myself when I get to Onederland because I don't tell my DH how much I weigh. :o I may reward myself for 50 pounds off instead because it'll be around the same time. Hmmmm... :gift:

Oooh, can you tell us how to make your eggplant casserole?

Modcat, I'm actually losing at a snail's pace but thanks for the congrats! I was actually down to 207 in July and am just regaining lost ground but I'll eventually get there. I do think I've got a shot at hitting my goal and it's largely due to this thread. Helps me focus!

DMO, I think your first post is back there but this thread really moves sometimes. :) We're happy to have you with us!

Ok, Lovelies, I'm going to chug another :coffee: and get out there for my run through the woods. I'm walking to sound yoga at lunch time and to tai chi this evening. So I should be preeeeeety mellow by day's end. :yoga: Have a great day, All!

09-23-2008, 12:19 PM
Apple--sorry about the food talk. I'll shape up! :club:
BTW--my mother is almost 89 and has been giving my sis fits off and on for at least a few years. She has been on some sort of happy pill to help combat her senior depression, as well as just overall general crabbiness and unco-operation. I believe it has really helped my sis to deal with her these last 2 years. Tell your mom's Dr. about her symptoms--I bet there is something she may need. :chin:

Miriam--I'll PM you the recipe--suffice to say it has a couple of unusual ingredients. I think I'll make it again tonight--it's been awhile!

And yeah--what DO you do that got you home so late?? :eek: It's been years since I had that kind of schedule, (during college).

Beach--I'll take that recipe as well--since I'm cooking more at home now! ;)

Arabella--like you, I've got to drink my last cup of :coffee2: and get out of here for my spin class. Then this evening--I plan to get to my swim class, before TBL tonight! Anyway, it's on my Tivo if I miss the beginning....

:goodvibes:goodvibes:goodvibes to everyone!

09-23-2008, 07:11 PM
Heh, people. Just had a look in here and saw the food porn talk going around. Thanks for helping me out while I'm away. Thanks Apple for watching out and Arabella and modcat for your thoughts and cooperation. Yes, the food porn originally did just refer to what would be considered no-nos on any sort of diet whatsoever, the usual culprits of sugar-laden garbage. But, it got me thinking, there are all sorts of regimes, and what could be fine on one may be not fine on another. So, yes, let's keep food in general out of the talk except in passing reference. Mod's idea of sending recipes and more detailed descriptions by private message is a great one. Let's stick to that. Thanks, all, for your help. It means a lot to me and the general attitude of cooperation and consideration on the thread is wonderful. :hug:
I'm not doing well but I am trying to keep going, which is the most I can hope for here for a while I'm afraid.

Apple Blossom
09-23-2008, 07:40 PM
No Beer, Day 14, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 12, 1 pause left
For a while there it seemed like time was flying by, but now it is creeping ever so slowly. I KNOW I am going to ace the beer challenge! We are going on a short trip next week and I'm going to save my beer cravings for the brew pubs we tend to seek out while traveling.
Mod- my mom has taken stuff on and off. It tends to make her TOO happy and thats no fun either. But it could help her through the rough place she's in. I stopped by today to make sure she at least was out of bed this morning, and she seemed much better.
Arabella- running through the woods, yoga, tai chi? That DOES sound so peaceful. What is sound yoga? Is that more meditation stuff? I have heard of walking meditation.
Hi miriam, I hope you have returned to the living....:sklol:

09-23-2008, 10:43 PM
Hey peeps,
Just wanted to post todays challenge. Sooo tired.

My Challenges - As of Monday
2 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 3 Pauses
15 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
2 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

09-24-2008, 01:57 AM
Mod - thanks for recipe

Red - glad to see you're alive

Apple - incidentally - seems I'm alive too :)

Beach - I work for a charity and humanitarian organization. this week we had to file a report (ha - "a report" - more like 2 cartons of documents) to an external accountant on behalf of the govenment offices that "support" out activities. I don't even know why we bother asking for money from them, as they give approx 3% of our annual budget, and the papewrwork they make us do for it is UNREAL! Anyway - we had a deadline, and had to meet it - hence the odd hours.

1) 3 meals - day 5
2) b4 10 - day 5
3)read serenity - day 7

09-24-2008, 10:19 AM
Fly-by report: Day 4 accomplished, Day 5 coming up. 3 pauses left. Weight holding steadyish at 208.6. Two more days to show a loss for official WI :crossed:


09-24-2008, 01:49 PM
miriam - All that paper work doesn't surprise me one bit. I could SOO get on my soap box right now, but I guess that's considered political, so I won't.
Well, I hope other parts of your job make up for that crappy part. :D

You can do it Arabella!! :goodscale

Apple, red, mod, jolly :wave:

:dust: To everyone!!!

09-24-2008, 01:52 PM
Oh yea...

My Challenges - As of Tuesday
3 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 3 Pauses
16 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
3 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

09-24-2008, 05:30 PM
Hi all. Hoping for a comeback soon... :^:

09-24-2008, 08:03 PM
Well, I should post my progress. I forgot exactly where I was, but this past week I do know.

Exercise--7 days straight
No junk processed empty calories--7 days straight
No eating out--5/7

Today, I was feeling really like a slug, but I managed to get in a pretty long walk with the dogs--good for me, good for them. And eating at home tonight again. The scale? love/hate relationship, but I am still plugging away.....

I am the opposite of most of you here--I have been too slow, not working much at all. Looking for a new job, but feeling kinda down about not working. Funny, because at first I was all over that, lots of energy to do all the extra stuff I always said I wished I had time for. Now, though, I feel useless, unproductive, and somedays I really have to push myself to do anything. I have thought about volunteering, but have also been lazy about that, knowing I really need to earn money. No we are not destitute, but it is hurting us that I am bringing in so little money so infrequently. (We just recently bought a house and have that added worry, along with the usual too much consumer debt.) I feel helpless, with no other options in sight yet.

So even though I have extra time to work out--my attitude hasn't been as upbeat in general. I try to give myself pep talks and I'm the eternal optimist, but some days.......

Anyway, just wanted to write that out today b/c it's been one of those days for me.

09-25-2008, 06:51 AM
3 meals - day 6
b4 10 - day 6
read serenity - day 8

Mod - sorry to hear you're feeling down...chin up - look at your exercise and your avoidance of unprocessed food... you're staying OP and that's important too!!

RED - happy to see you!

I had the mother of all headaches yesterday - form the second I woke up till I went to sleep but I woke up without it today! THAT'S something to be happy about!!!! :)

09-25-2008, 07:32 AM
208.6. Nothing catastrophic yesterday except I fell off the step wagon. Just slightly under the weather and didn't push myself to get out there so I ended up with not quite 5k steps. And then didn't bother journaling since I was off-P anyway. Back on today, just going to finish this :coffee: and get out for a run, do some yoga, drink the water, etc. etc.

I guess I'll take the pause and make this Day 5 again. One pause gone. WI tomorrow. :crossed: A loss would be swell. I've really worked this week unless something awful happens (Read: a gain), I should get recognition for 40 pounds off tomorrow.

Red, nice to see you! Thanks for your explanation of why you think food discussion should be :censored: Be good to yourself!

Beach, thanks for the recipe! I'll definitely make that. :) I feel for you on the struggles with your mom. Mine's pretty much upbeat and on an even keel mentally but she's in poor shape physically, can hardly walk without a walker. Which she attributes to arthritis but ... she's probably 100 pounds overweight and doesn't get any exercise. And I've seen this happen over a period of years -- she'll just sit on the couch and move as little as possible. She's almost 85 but her mother lived to be 100. And I would hate to see her spend her last years totally incapacitated.

I guess it's always something. :rolleyes:

Modcat, if only we were independently wealthy! It seems like we're all always too busy or we've got the time but lack $ or we're stressed. Hope you can find a way to enjoy the extra time. :hug:

Apple, here's a description of sound yoga. (

Miriam, glad your headache's gone! That sounded awful. Do you get migraines?

K, coffee's almost gone and I should be too. Let's make this a good one!

09-25-2008, 08:49 AM
Hi Ladies! The way things are going it looks like I could possibly reach my birthday goal!! I have to REALLY stay OP and push myself at the gym.

I've decided my next goal will be to weigh what's actually on my drivers license. Which has been wrong since I was about 17. oops. I've wondered several times what the employee at the DMV thought when she asked "Has your weight changed?" And I said no, even thought I was about 75 lbs heavier. hahahaha.. I'm just a big ol' liar.

Hope everyone has a great day!
My Challenges - As of Wednesday
4 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 3 Pauses
17 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
4 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 3 Pauses

09-25-2008, 08:23 PM
Miriam, Arabella, thanks for the welcome back. Though I'm not quite there yet, I will be soon. I have had some rough times, but I am taking them as lessons and not using them to beat myself up with, though I do a bit..... :^:
Last night was my final pigout. Really went hog wild from around noon. Pretty weird stuff too I was shoving in my face, things I normally don't. On the other hand, last week I had an amazing week, working out at the gym and jogging for the first time in months. I was eating much less and in control. Then, the past few days I've kind of let go again.
There is something different going on though, some feeling of actually LIKING that feeling of control and discipline. It's cool and the other is not. And last week, the extra exercise tightened me up and gave me more strength (I can put on muscle like you wouldn't believe) and I really, really liked that feeling. I had some incredibly late nights...coming home around 9 a.m. (well, just one) and I've had it with that. Like after the grand finale on the Fourth of July, the fireworks are over! Hope to see you all back here soon.


Apple Blossom
09-25-2008, 09:35 PM
No Beer, Day 16, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 14, 1 pause left
I don't think I lost any weight this week, but no gain either. Tomorrow is weigh in. I'll try to be good at dinner tonight.
Red, I totally know what you mean, sometimes you just have to get all that @#!!*#! out of your system. When my husband leaves on a trip I sometimes spend the first night or 2 doing what ever just because no one is there to tell me not to. (Some times a husband is like having a mom or dad around. Sometimes I feel like a little kid again. And not in a good way.) So now it's time to buckle down and pay for our sins. :devil:
Beach-I'm sure you'll make your goal! Way to go!:cp:
Arabella, thanks for the link. I wonder if I can borrow something like that from the library? Get right back on P! You hear?:drill:
Miriam, glad your head ache is gone. I've had a few on and off lately. stomach aches too. I really haven't been feeling all that healthy lately. I think it's just stress, but....
Mod, do you walk all of your dogs at once? Back when I had 2 healthy dogs I would occasionally walk them together but it was kind of a pain in the....
Well, I have to go do something useful now. See y'all later...

09-25-2008, 10:02 PM
I had an off day. After work I met a friend at the Japanese restaurant and I pigged out. First time in a month. I didn't go to the gym either. I don't feel all that bad about it because I know tomorrow I'll be back on track. It was a decision, and I don't feel "out of control". I hope that is a sign of something good...

My Challenges - As of Thursday
4 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 2 Pauses
17 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
4 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 2 Pauses

09-25-2008, 11:31 PM
beach--love the new avatar! And certainly we all need those days when we consciously go off plan--it is a big help sometimes to help keep us on plan those other days. I love japanese restaurants as well! :yes:

BTW--my DL is now "only" 40 lbs. less than what I am. I upped the DL weight about 30 lbs. a few years ago when it was ridiculously little (college weight) and for absolutely certain I WAS NOT 125! Now at 155--that is a reasonable underestimate. :D
I am determined to get back to that very attainable weight someday soon. :crossed:

Apple--oh my gosh you hit it on the head. I may have said it here before, but I LOVE when my hub is gone for a couple of days (which is practically never!) It is so liberating, in a good way. It does feel like he is my parent, or my boss even at times. Grrrgh! :devil:

And yes, generally take all three at once--quite a handful. Sometimes, just the two younger ones, if I can sneak out without the old girl. :sssh:

Arabella--yes you are doing so awesome still, one off day is no biggie, as with beach. Congrats early on the 40 lb loss. :bravo:

Miriam--probably a delayed tiredness/stress headache from those extra hours you had to put in for your report. Glad to hear it's gone now. :)

Red--SO GLAD you are starting to feel better! Nice to know you are around and checking in on your "21-day disciples" here.

I guess fauxtini is still jetting around the US getting married, moving into a new pad, having a honeymoon, blah, blah, blah. Just the usual boring stuff, hmmm? ;)

09-26-2008, 02:21 AM
Red - welcome back on the wagon!

Apple - hear ya on the hubby issue, haha

Mod - at 5"1' I weigh 145 and I look awful! Feel so frustrated after losing so much weight and being a big size still! I'm still a 14/16 - more a 16, and it's irritating!!!!!! My friend who is 5"3' weighs 140 and she's a size 6! What up?!?!

My sister made her daughter's bat Mitzvah in a Japanese restaurant in Jerusalem and it was soooo yummy! So my DH and I went out to dinner there the next week :) It's mice they have so many vegetarian options there, too.

Beach - when's your birthday?

Wonder how Fish is doing, hope she's okay.

09-26-2008, 08:45 AM
My Birthday is Oct 4th, next Saturday. If I drink LOTS of water to get rid of all this dang sodium, I might make my goal.

I bought a dress for the cruise next year. It's like 2 sizes to small! It was on clearance for like $20. That's going to be my motivaton. Silly I know, but I need a visual.

miriam - I didn't even think about the vegetable plate! I went straight for the meat! :)

I hope everyone has a wonderful Friday!

09-26-2008, 10:04 AM
207.6. Day 6, 2 pauses left.

According to WW scale, I'm down .8 this week. Gosh, maybe I'll soon be able to move my ticker :hyper: I got a round of applause for 40 off, which was nice. I was thinking on my walk home that it's important to go every week because otherwise, I can hit a week with no loss, decide not to go... and that's the slippery slope that leads to... nowhere good.

I feel like I'm working awfully hard for awfully slow loss. But if that's the way I've got to do it, that's the way I've got to do it. I've lost close to 20% of my body weight. According to my Tanita scale, my body fat is now in the normal range for my age group (I think they're very lax, though). My husband says I'm looking sexy. So...progress. I'll keep going.

Apple, Modcat, Miriam -- wow! Maybe there's some connection between overbearing husbands and weight issues. (I wouldn't be surprised, come to think of it. Me too! I was just talking about how he's like an authority figure. (He's going away for the weekend. Tee hee.) Jeez, ya know... that can't be good for a relationship.

Beach, do you keep your dress out somewhere where you can see it? I've always got an item or two in the closet that I try on every so often to see if I can wear them.

Apple, thanks for the :drill: I did get right back on track. Getting my steps in every day. :yes:

Red Balloon, glad to hear you're on your way back. Me too on the muscle -- really slows the weight loss, too, I find. Which can get discouraging. But I guess it's better in the long run.

Miriam, I bet you look better than you think you do! Sizes can be deceptive, too. A lot depends on style and fit.

Modcat, we don't have weights on our DLs here (Huzzah!) but when I lived somewhere we did, I bet I was listed as 75 pounds lighter -- yeah, bet I fooled 'em with that. :rolleyes:

Well, I've got most of my steps in, done some :yoga: gone to WI, had my oat bran and am drowning myself in :coffee2: Seems like one of those days where there's not enough caffeine in the world. :yawn:

Nevertheless, I guess it's time to get to work. Have a great day, all.

09-26-2008, 05:11 PM
Arabella--I bet you are right now that I ponder that--the hub factor and weight issues. I do know, however, an overbearing hub who has a notoriously unfaithful wife (who is admittedly, hot looking). I wonder if that is her way to sorta slap him in the face, or to exert control. But for several others, I can see the overweight thing. I think it may be due to a stress/emotional/control thing. In other words--many different things factor into it. :D What am I talking about? I don't really know.... :dizzy:

Miriam--I am currently about a size 12-14 US. I'd be tickled pink with a size 8--I have no illusions of being smaller. At 8, my body looks good, if it is fit. Curvy, but nice (if I remember correctly!) Sizes are so different for everyone. I just would like to always find my size in any store, because there are such cute things out there! Just recently (this summer) started to buy a few things that are sleeveless--this was a huge milestone for me! My hub finally convinced me my arms are fine. Still big, but much better! And my waist is starting to be curve inward again! I will get there! :yes:

beach--I've done that as well--incentive clothes buying! And it has worked for me in the past. :)

09-27-2008, 02:33 PM
Hi all,

I totally agree with the direct correlation between spouse issues and weight issues - never had any weight issues until I has spouse issues!!

Beach - where are you going for your cruise? I've never been on a cruise before, but I guess I'd be freaked out the whole tie - kinda like flying.

Arabella - 40 pounds!! WOHOO!! That's totally awesome!!!!

Mod - you see what I mean? Look at your weight,look at my weight, and I'm still 14/16 US. GRRRR!!! Congrats on going sleeveless! My arms were never an issue - just mainly my big fat round stomach. I still can't shop in regulare sizes stores here - only big sizes, sigh....

3 meals - day 6 <1 pause taken>
b4 10 - day 7
read serenity - day 9

Apple Blossom
09-28-2008, 12:07 AM
No Beer, Day 18, 3 pauses left
30 min exercise, Day 15, no pauses left
Whoa,hangingonbyathreadtothatexercisechallenge.Ohs hoot,mysacebardoesntwork,nietherdoestheletterafter o

09-28-2008, 05:44 AM
Ok, peops, I'm going to try to make a comeback. I'm sitting here drinking my green drink, very healthy stuff I believe and actually contemplating sticking a horrible cigarette in my face (lit, of course). I've been in an anything-goes mood for weeks now and I'm actually enjoying it. My contrary nature makes me the strongest in a no-holds-barred environment. I just have to be different.....what's that???? :listen: ....OK, smartie pants, if you're so different, then why don't you try to get those godawful 30 pounds off you that have been roosting there for years, the SAME 30 pounds, different my arse.

Well, I'll see where things take me and think up some challenge that won't interfere with my teenager-like mind. Maybe now that I have firmly reestablished my reputation as a chain-smoking, beer-swilling, can't be relied on to get to work on time...or at all, for that matter (and when she does it's gorging on sugar and eating all day long instead of working) I can go underground and do my straight-and-narrow routine stealth.

Ah, there goes the switch on my rice cooker. I do love it when I can indulge myself and cook. It's so rare that I have any time at all at home. My cats never see me. With all the talk of husbands around here, I think the only husband I could possibly have is one who was never around or one who would never miss me. But then, what's the point I guess, eh? :dunno:

Apple -- Love that new writing style. Very stream of consciousness. ;) I can't believe you've gone 18 days without a brew. :eek: Have you been slogging down the wine or vodka or something else? Just kidding. Great stuff. And the exercise too. How inspiring!

miriam -- Well, it's been so long I don't know where everyone is. I just hope you're doing OK with the diabetes scare you had. Spouse issues I don't have, never wanted to go quite that far... ;) Hope things are going well for you! Miriam, that is strange about your taking a large size. I find that really unusual. I think weight training could really help you. Maybe you have very small bones, which would mean that your total weight comes from more, and other things...but, seriously, try doing some serious weight training if you haven't before. I'm sure it would help tighten you up and when you're tighter you're going to get into a smaller size. Now, what's this about a bar mitzvah in a Japanese restaurant?!?!? Interesting! Are you a vegetarian too?

modcat -- Love those dogs. Tell me about them. They look adorable. Thanks for the encouragement and, yes, thank you, disciples!!

Arabella -- Thanks for holding the fort with your colorful posts. Now I'm back to show you up! ;) Congratulations on your WW applause. Forty pounds gone, beautiful! I can see how going every week could really help. I wish I had easy access to such a group here, but there isn't any such around that I know of. Only TOPS I think, or Overeaters Anonymous. Thing is, there's nothing anonymous about my overeating! And I can't imagine going to a meeting, standing up in front of everyone and saying "Hi, my name's Red and I eat too much" I mean, like, yeeeaaaahhh, :?: we can see that.... And I don't know anything about TOPS. I remember doing Weight Limited way back in the '70s. God, I can remember it like yesterday. I guess this shows the short-term memory is deteriorating, eh? You know, on the muscle, yeah, maybe it slows the weight loss but I just feel SO much better when I feel strong. It does take a LOT of work to get the weight down though and my appetite ba-ba-ba-BALLOONS when I'm doing weight training. But, if I do a lot of cardio, or at least break a good sweat for about 20 minutes it makes a world of difference. Congrats on the "sexy" compliment too! :yes:

beach -- I like the idea of a dress 2 sizes too small. I have jeans that I used to love to wear. The zipper is broken but I'm going to get them fixed and aim to get back in those. I fit into them when I was 27 lbs lighter and didn't have much muscle. Let's see what happens. Um...can you say, broken zipper again? Oh, and beach, how can you "pig out" in a Japanese restaurant? Seriously.

09-28-2008, 09:19 AM
Good morning all. Just getting a quick post in, before I am off to run the Komen Race for the Cure. Thanks to some help from a friend, I have a t-shirt that honors my late aunt that passed away from breast cancer in May.

Red, I hear you on the anything goes mentality. Things have been so chaotic with school, that i just haven't done anything. I have decided to give myself a bit of a pause on actually losing weight, as long as I get back under 200 and don't gain, so I can focus on establishing a good school routine. I think if I can do that, it will decrease the stress eating. So, starting today, my challenges will be:

1) Daily workout

2) Follow menu

3) Log in daily.

I am still going to do sessions regularly with my trainer. And I want to stay working out hard, so I am fit for marathon training next year. If nothing else, that will be my push to get off the last 30-40. I just need to do something to reduce the pressure, ya know?

Anyway, sorry been gone so long. Hello to everyone, and hope to catch up soon. Please forgive me if I miss stuff, between work and school, I don't have a whole lot of reading time. Have a great day :wave:

Shy Moment
09-28-2008, 02:33 PM
For those of you who have wondered where I have been, I DO NOT want to hear you all needed the break :). We had a death in the family and of course I was elected to get everyone into town from out of state and get the hotel reservations and so forth for 50 people. I wasn't even asked lol his mother just said, " Ask Rennie what needs to be done, lol "Then of course was the coordination of getting people from airports to hotels and to the banquet hall and so forth and so on. Three days of talking with everyone all over the country ( very hard since I am painfully shy off the net ) that I don't even know ( his family ) and then trying to get people who live in the state to pitch in and help get people where they needed to be has really taken its tole on me. Everything came off very well and we had over 100 people there. I was really grateful that people really pitched in when they saw I wasn't feeling well so I wasn't stuck doing everything for the three days when it came to keeping the food dishes full and everyone where they needed to be when they needed to be there. Really have no idea why everyone asks me everything lol. This family has big doos about everything that happens in the family one would think they could do all this without much thought lol. I of course did not eat on plan but am happy that when I weighted myself this morning I didn't gain any weight. No gain is a loss right lol. I have been very sick again. This bronchitis is really getting me down. I go back to the doc tomorrow. No exercise of course, just walking up or down a flight of stairs makes me have to sit for 20 min to catch my breath. This of course will pass and I will be right as rain. I just wish the sun would hurry and come out and it would stop being partly cloudy lol.

I am going to have to start my challenges over. I haven't been eating right and I haven't been able to exercise. I am going to wait a few days until I can at least walk up and down a flight of stairs without having to sit for 20 min to catch my breath.

09-28-2008, 07:34 PM
Arabella - giiirrll! I put a special hook up for my dress! :) The only thing I worry about are my arms. the sleeves are VERY tight. We shall see.

Hi Shy! Glad you are back, and I'm very sorry to hear about the death in your family. All of that on top of your being sick! I hope you get to feeling better very soon.

jolly - good luck on your race. I wish I could get a trainer. I have no idea if what I'm doing is right. I've tried to read as much as possible on the net, but you get so much conflicting information and who knows what is correct. The gym I go to is a city recreational facility. It's only $50 a year. So there aren't any trainers.

Red - OMG! Maybe the japanese restaurants over here are different, but it's like a 4 course meal, LOTS of rice. You could easily get 3 meals out of it. I ate most of it there, and then I ate the rest at home later that night, I justified it by saying I didn't want it in the house the next day.

I went to a bar last night to watch the game. And I didn't smoke! It was my first real test. Very excited for myself. :)

My Challenges - As of Saturday
6 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 2 Pauses
19 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
6 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 2 Pauses

09-28-2008, 11:18 PM
Thanks Beachlvr. RAce went well. My mother, however, is upset with me that she couldn't find me in a crowd of 12,000. My fault, of course.

I would check out if other gyms have postings for trainers. You might be able to find one reasonably for a few sessions. I was lucky to meet mine a few years ago when she was teaching classes at the gym, and she gives me a good rate.

The insanity continues. My sister and I have decided to try and do another 1/2 marathon in 6 weeks :fr: I am certifiable.

Have a good night all :wave:

09-29-2008, 01:12 AM
Hi Guys! :wave:

Shy--sorry about your loss and your being the family planner! Sounded like a BIG to do! But glad you are back now and you'll be back on track in time!

Jolly--I am NOT a runner, but have just started trying to do a little b/c of the fantastic fast cardio results. (And would like to re-shape my legs at least a bit....) I did the Labor Day 5K challenge and yesterday, ran a 5K on the treadmill (jog/walk) for 40.30 min. My goal is to get under 40 minutes.
Today did yoga followed by a 2.5 mile treadmill WO. There is an actual 5K race--the Turkey Trot--coming up here in Santa Cruz that I want to try to do. (So many outdoor enthusiasts here, I really should be taking advantage of the many races, etc.) I hope I won't embarrass myself!

:congrat: beach on your NSV at the bar! On a similar note--today is Football Overload Sunday, and I did not have any bad food, nor any alcohol!
Weird--I took the no alcohol off my challenges, and now I don't feel like I want it--haven't had any in a week or more! :rolleyes:

Apple- alittlecomputermalfunction?? :comp: :D

miriam--you probably do have small bones and very lean muscle mass--just think how hot you will look (again) when some more excess insulation comes off! On the other hand, I will NEVER be a petite, cute, little girl--haven't been since I was 6! But I am determined to be a tall-ish, curvy, pretty-hot-for-her-age woman! We can do it!! :yes:

Arabella--I don't know if I will ever get some of those :yoga: poses down! I am NOT flexible, nor can I bend like the others in my class. I cannot sit my butt on the ground when I splay out my bended legs on either side (sorry I don't know all the names for the poses yet), nor can I do that darn Swan posture (that's what our instructor calls it, one bent knee up at an angle, one leg straight back, trying to sit on butt). And will I ever be able to touch the floor without bent knees, much less place palms FLAT on the floor??? :?:

RED--Welcome back! :dancer: So glad you have a good attitude it seems. As long as we can laugh at ourselves--we'll be ok.
My dogs--well, I have a 15 yr-old husky mix and a 7 yr-old half Shiba Inu/half Pointer mix (both from shelters) and the :queen: of them, or rather, the boss, is my 3 yr-old Shiba Inu. She is my second purebred Shiba, and such a character! My old girl has some hearing and sight issues, and certainly arthritis, but is in remarkably good shape for her age and the vet is always surprised how sprightly she still is. My 7 yr-old boy is our first male ever--he is soooo mellow and loving and really is the best one, temperament-wise. I don't know why we never had boys before.

They are my children, my family since my hub and I are DINKS (double income, no kids). And since moving away from other family, I am so grateful to have them. Besides, I love animals--for awhile I was thinking to be a vet. I love cats also--but hub allergic pretty badly to them :cry: And I had 2 horses that I showed all through junior high, HS and college. :love:

09-29-2008, 09:27 AM
Ok, just a quickie here. Home, cooked and must get to bed if I want to be up at 4:30 a.m. Did REAL well today. Got to the gym before work and at work didn't eat much at all. Had some stuff I brought from home. Pretty healthy. Resisted smoking and drinking, even though it was tempting. Hurrah for me!

jolly -- Sounds like you have a good plan there, maintaining under the 200 mark and waiting to make the next push when your reserves are fully stocked again. But still working out hard?! Wow, such resolve. Great to see :yes:

Shy -- I'm very sorry to hear of the death in your family and my sympathy goes out to you for having taken things on all my yourself. Obviously, you are THE best person for the job and everybody knows it. I do hope you feel better soon and that your exercise exhaustion is not something serious. Take care and be here with us again soon! :sunny:

beach -- Work those arms! I found a great exercise at the gym for triceps, the backs of my arms. I usually hate the usual exercises for them but today I started playing around with a cable and that worked well and hit them well too. Yeah, I hope it'll be back to short sleeves next summer. beach, yup, you're right. The Japanese restaurants in the States don't sound very authentic. Here, there would never be rice during the meal and various courses. Rices comes at the very end if it comes at all. And everything in between in just bits and pieces, nothing to get too full about. Obviously, they've tailored it to make it more acceptable to the average American's idea of a other words, filling! When people come here they are always surprised at how small portions are but in a few days they're saying how much better they feel. Heh, GREAT going on the no smoking. That IS a save, resisting in a bar...the worst place for wanting a cig.

modcat -- You sound just like me with the yoga. I want to get a video called Yoga for the Hopelessly Stiff. I think there is one with such a name. I fear I will hardly be able to bend if I don't start stretching soon. Thanks for the description of your dogs. Yes, I thought that was a Shiba-ken. Ken is usually the way I hear it, though both are correct. Shiba-ken are very popular here always. There is a new black Shiba. Kuro Shiba. Very cute. All the rave now. Well, I don't know if they're new, just popular now. Don't you just want to pick this little one up below and cuddle it?


Good night all!!! :wave:

09-29-2008, 10:44 AM
Buried under a mountain of work until Wednesday. Had a bad day on Saturday but back on track. I'll come in with new challenges on Wednesday.

09-29-2008, 11:11 AM
Hi all -

just a flyby here as i am getting ready for the 2 day holiday of rosh hashana - soooo much cooking and baking! but i made sure to make things that i don't particularly like in the baking dept to resist temptation :)

so i'll be offline for a couple of days - but looking forward to touching base when i return!!!

Happy New Year! :)

Apple Blossom
09-29-2008, 02:24 PM
No Beer, Day 19, 2 pauses left
30 min exercise , oh well, gotta start over :(
I switched keyboards with our old computer. I think a kid may have spilled something on the other one. 5 or 6 keys are not working.
My brother came over yesterday, so I took a pause on no beer. And I have been drinking other stuff, but not much. 2 mojitos and one night I went to a dinner party and drank a little too much wine.:hat: Maybe the next challenge will be no alcohol. I don't know what to do about the exercise. I have only 3 days a week when I can get a good work out or run in. It's hard to get something in on the other days. My SIL had been getting up early to run a mile every morning. Better than nothing she figures. I would feel comfortable leaving my son in charge for 10 minutes, so I'm thinking my new challenge will be to run a mile a day. We are going away for a bit, so I'll wait until we get back.
Miriam, you are always so busy! Have a great holiday!
Arabella, see you Wed!
Beach- i have a big prob with my arms. I actually can't wear certain styles any more. :( I'm actually more pissed off about the arms then any other part of my fatness. Except maybe my beer belly...
Shy, sorry about your loss. It was really nice of you to help out with all that work. :hug:
Red, its nice to have you back!
Jolly, I really admire all the running you have been doing! Someday....
Mod-I imagine you as a pretzel...

09-29-2008, 04:26 PM
Hey all. Doing well for today. Acutally, the taking a pause until my reserves are full again took a dump once we decided to do another 1/2 marathon. If I am running hard, I need to eat properly for fuel. My sister gets a little crabby if I am running even slower than usual because I ate crap. Glad you are having a good day Red

Modcat - just do it. Pick up a copy of runner's world, and read John Binham's column. Or go on his website. It is for all of us penguins - slow runners. That is what first convinced me I could be a runner, even though I am slower than a 10 min mile. There are people of all levels at these races, unless you pick something that is an Olympic Trials or Boston Marathon qualifier :lol: I am usually at the end of the pack, but I do it. If you love it, don't let anything stop you.

All right, going to rest a bit, then do some homework. Have a good day all.

09-29-2008, 09:41 PM
Evening everybody!

Just a quick post on my challenges, lost 1.8 lbs today! Sooo close to my birthday goal.
It's good to see everyone in such good spirits. I look forward to sitting down every night and reading ya'lls posts. So thankful to have found this thread!

My Challenges - As of Sunday
7 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 2 Pauses
20 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
7 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 2 Pauses

Apple Blossom
09-30-2008, 06:31 PM
No Beer, Day 20, 2 pauses left
Well, I'm almost there....
Congrats on your loss, beach!
Jolly, The penguin guy is really funny. I've always liked him. I wish there was a penguin club for races. Maybe there is one for all I know. For example, if you were planning to run a particular race, you could hook up with other penguins and run (waddle) together.
I have to go, have a great day everyone!

09-30-2008, 10:01 PM
Hi all. Well, I'm going to make my official start today. It's going to be called "The Big Picture Challenge" -- 21 days of healthful ways. The rules aren't that specific but I know what they are. It means things like next-to-no sugar, no smoking, minimal alcohol, no overeating, sweat-breaking cardio, weight training, calm thoughts, self-control and AWARENESS! I'm giving myself three days on which I can relax and not have to be aware of anything, three holidays, but NOT binges, not free-for-alls! Here goes. Wednesday, Oct. 1 is Day 1!!

Big Picture Challenge Day 0 completed 3 pauses left

No time left to write. Apple, you are rocking!!! beach, you too, look at you on the no smoking. Fantastic!!! :cb: jolly, Shy, Arabella, miriam, mod, everyone else!! Hello :wave: and good luck!! :goodluck:

10-01-2008, 08:52 AM
Hi all. REal quick post this morning. I am also officially starting my challenges today, REd. want to go 21 days straight until my birthday!!! Daily posting (check), daily workouts (check), follow menu (working on it :))

Apple, maybe you need to start your own penguin club! Train for the ET marathon next August, and we will meet you there!

So, a quick funny before off to work. After doing much pondering on the way home last night about how lost and behind I am in Contracts (any tips on how to survive and LIKE this class Fish???), I decided that I should not be spending more time prepping for a half marathon right now. i called my sister to talk about it, and she had had the same thoughts :lol: It is kind of funny - I absolutely HATED running 6 months ago, and now :?: Well, it is kind of a reward - I won't get to go running until I have my homework done :o:

Have a wonderful day all :wave:

10-01-2008, 08:59 AM
Morning guys!

red - those sound like wonderful challenges. I think that calm thoughts are something thats missing from my plan. I think I'm way to high strung to meditate. I'm always amazed when people say they meditate for an hour! Best of luck on all of those.

Apple & Jolly- What in the world are ya'll talking about, the penguin guy? I'm imagining Billy Madison when he keeps seeing the penguin and running after him.

miriam, mod, shy :wave:

My Challenges - As of Tuesday
9 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 2 Pauses
22 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
9 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 2 Pauses

10-01-2008, 02:29 PM
Hi All!
Rosh Hashana is past - and I made good eating choices on the whole. I find that if I tell myself "no sugar ever" - all I'm going to want is sugar. I know the saying - that all the food tastes the same as the first bite - and I'm trying to internalize that! I never used to be able to have a little bit of anything - I could only eat LOTS of whatever it was that I wanted (read: junk) but doing better.

With the Jewish holidays here, I'm all our of whack counting days for challenges, so I might have to join Red in a "big picture" challenge - and keep up the awareness. I am trying to say the serenity prayer still every day - I wish it would STICK already!!!

BTW - I was the red team's biggest loser this week! Who woulda thunk? ;)

10-02-2008, 06:16 AM
Hey all. OK. Today is day one of my 3 new challenges. Tomorrow didn't work out so well :o I need to stop making the polar opposite of the choices I should

Beachlvr, there is a columnist in Runner's World named John Bingham. His article used to be called "The Penguin Chronicles" and is now called "No Need for Speed." It is about those of us that are never going to be competiting for top 3 in a race. He has his own website, and you can buy penguin gear - which I have :D You should check it out - it helped me a lot I know with motivation and inspiration.

Have a good day all :wave:

10-02-2008, 09:02 AM
Hi chickadees!

Happy Thursday Morning! With the start of a new month I have added "100 miles in October" to my challenges. I know it doesn't fit in with this challenge,but if you don't mind I'll keep up with it with the rest of my challenges. I post in this thread more than any others.

jolly - I'll def check it out. Gosh knows I won't ever be in the top 20! I would like to be able to run a 5k some day.

Congrats on your win miriam! That's wonderful!

Have a great one everybody!

10-02-2008, 09:25 AM
208.6. I fell (read: jumped) off the wagon completely Saturday and Monday. Ugh. Why do I do that when it feels so bad? Seriously, I end up totally stressed -- ironic, if I'm eating to calm myself. Works for the moment but then afterwards :stress: WHAT HAVE I DONE? Seriously, I'll wake up the next day feeling like there's been a catastrophe. Man, I guess this is the face of addiction.

However, this challenge helps enormously and will continue because I am NOT giving up. Day 1, here I go:

Giving myself three pauses.

At least 12,500 steps a day


3L water a day

Either yoga or tai chi daily (ideally, both)

Daily weigh-in

Daily report

8-10 servings fruit/veggies

I hope to get a chance to come back in and catch up later on.

Let's make this a good one!

10-02-2008, 08:29 PM
OK, I too rolled, lept, catapulted from the wagon... :^: and it was not pretty and I, like Arabella, feel like some sort of sorry addict. Oh well, it may have had its benefits and if I look at what I did and study what was a productive tangent from the straight and narrow and what was totally unnecessary with NO redeeming factors whatsoever, then I can still improve. I mean, drinking with workmates and having some deep talks IS good and it doesn't happen without a bit of chemical help, BUT sticking smokes in my face helps NOTHING. And the snack food last night, what was that??!?!? Still, I can see some progress sneaking in and I am not going to be horribly strict on the challenge just yet, but there was NO way I could allow the past two days on whatever, I am starting over on the Big Picture Challenge. New start day, Friday, Oct. 3

BPC 0 days completed 3 pauses left

Arabella -- I know EXACTLY how you feel. Here's a leg up. Now off you go!!

beach -- Your 100 miles is fine as an extracurricular challenge. Good luck on all of them!

jolly -- Yes, polar opposites, it's one reason I am actually scared of committing to challenges. I seem to do better not focusing on things. But, heck, that's just a sorry excuse. I looked up your Bingham books and ordered one. I want to get back into jogging myself. Nothing takes the fat off quicker! If I can just allow myself a little bit and not push myself and wind up injured then it will help.

miriam -- Good for you for weathering the holidays well. Yes, we all have that contrary problem it seems. And I too am understanding the first bite is the best thing. Heh, congrats on the biggest loser. Wow!!! :bravo:

Apple -- you must be through your beer challenge. How did it go?!?!?!?

10-02-2008, 11:28 PM
Hi guys! Well, everything is going pretty good here, as of yesterday I had exercised 13 days straight and was OP with eating, etc. Today--I worked a full, long day and even into half my lunch. Just got home. But--no exercise yet, and I was starved so I ate first. Now I am catching up on the threads and trying to let my food digest before going out for a run/walk. It is sooooo hard for me to exercise after a long day at work, and especially after dinner. I am an early girl, and later in the day I have no energy.

But, I am determined to not let my streak die today......

Red--is the new black Shiba all black? I know they have a more rare variation here that they just call a black and tan, it has tan and white also, so not solid black.

Jolly--Next time I am at Borders I will get Runner's World. Funny, I never looked at it before--always thought it was for "advanced, experienced" runners, not for average janes like me. I still kinda hate it (running, well, exercise in general), but I feel soooo much better afterwards, and I am learning that I feel even better after I complete the HARDEST things (which are the things I am swearing under my breath the entire time, lol) so I am starting to embrace them, not avoid them.

Apple, Beach--:bravo: for almost reaching/making your goals! My next mini-goal is 185, shooting for halloween.

miriam--I forgot to wish you a happy new year! I did congrat you I think on your TBL win somewhere else, but it deserves repeating. :cp::cp::cp:

Arabella--it's ok, we need to shake things up and keep our bodies guessing! But your new goal list sounds awesome. As does Red's and Jolly's.

Shy, others--:wave:

10-03-2008, 10:46 AM
207.6. .4 up from lowest in about 5 or 6 years. I've been feeling stressed out and not really enjoying life -- working too hard, not doing much else. Not good. :no: Last night I went to sound yoga and then took in tai chi class after that. And I felt 100% better afterwards -- life was beautiful again.

Now today I'm a bit tired but... it's Friday, a lovely :sunny: fall day and I'm having lunch with a friend. I'm back, Baby!

Red, ahhhhh... we're in synch. I agree, the time out with friends feeds our souls and gawd forbid we get too regimented to allow that kind of thing.

I found an excellent triceps exercise the other night. I had a pound of basil to make pesto for the freezer. Let me tell you, using a garlic press for that many cloves ... my triceps are still sore. Will I do it again? Not without a gun to my head.

Modcat, I am afraid that my body has it all figured out and I can not keep it guessing any more. Any off-wagon forays show up on :devil: scale and sometimes it takes me the best part of a week to take it off again. This week I had two off-track days and was up .6 at WW, despite stellar behavior the rest of the week.

The thing with yoga is it makes us more flexible. My hips and knees both tend to be stiff. Lotus pose is impossible for me so I never tried to do it. But now I'm doing poses that help hips and knees and I'm thinking maybe by the time I'm 60 :yoga:

Miriam, congrats on being the biggest loser! :woohoo:

Aw, Apple, not with the :bat:wing thing again. :lol: Yeah, me too. I've got some new tees for the gym that are really nice except the sleeves are just an inch or so too short. Makes me self-conscious. Well, maybe it will motivate me to take the weight off more quickly.

Jolly, yeah I've investigated the 'polar opposites of what I should be doing' thing pretty thoroughly. Seems to work pretty much as well as you'd think. :dz: I love the penguin guy too. Must look up some of his columns.

Beach, the thing with meditation is that it helps us to be less high-strung. Try even a minute, or just long enough to take three deep, slow breaths. It really helps in the calm thoughts department. Congrats on the loss, and on being close to bday goal!

Shy, sorry for your loss! Sounds like you're the designated go-to gal in your family. I've just started saying "Can I get back to you on that?" first instead of immediately saying yes. Even a five-minute pause helps me to think about it. Not really for a crisis situation but for the most part it's helpful.

K, hope I didn't miss anyone. If I did, :wave:

Let's make this a good one!

10-03-2008, 12:30 PM
Hey all. I am pausing on starting my challenges. Just found out my aunt, who had been fighting colon cancer, died this morning. I came home because it was hard to focus. I want to get some stuff done today, so I can be there for my mom. She lost her last two sisters within a few months of each other, and it is now just her and a brother who has been a bit distant lately. Then I am going to have to figure out how to get work caught up, studying done, workouts in, and be there for all of the funeral stuff . .. :fr:

I love Runners World. It has good tips for beginners, women runners, those trying to lose weight, and inspiration to keep going. I just ordered two more running books too, which I will have to find time to read.

Have a good day all, and I will post as I can. :wave:

10-03-2008, 01:04 PM
Happy Friday all!

Arabella - 207.6! You are so close to 100's! so excited for you.
I'll give the meditation a try. When I walk outside I feel like my thoughts are very positive and calming. It feels really good.

Jolly, so sorry to hear about your aunt. Take care of yourself.
I checked out John Bingham's site. Too funny. I want the shirt that says, yeah, I know I'm slow.. get over it. hehe. I thought the info about resting being just as important as running was interesting. I have a bit of OCD personality. If something is good, twice as much must be better! I'll have to remember to listen to my body when it needs rest.

yay miriam!!! :carrot: you go girl! :D

mod - wow, I'm not sure if I could exercise that time of night either! I have to go straight to the gym after work, or I may get sidetracked... or lazy. :^:

Red - Good luck on your fresh start!

My Challenges - As of Thursday
11 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 2 Pauses
24 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
11 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 2 Pauses

10-03-2008, 06:46 PM
Jolly--I'm so sorry about your loss. That is rough. We have two terminally ill family members also, his mother, and my brother, ages 67 and 54 respectively. Too young--and as my hub says, yes we all know we are going to die, but to know when....just horrible those last few months or years we are living our life. Everyday I think of them and try to appreciate my life, and really, just get out there and live my life. Trying not to complain, and also, trying to be happy. Which goes into my weight loss and fitness journey--trying to not let opportunities slip by me to get happy and get rid of those things that bring me down or that I WASTE precious time agonizing about, being unhappy about.

Does that makes sense? Anyway :hug: to you.

Arabella--you actually went down a full pound in one day! WTG! so your off-plan damage didn't last long, so it may have been a good thing!
What I was interested in about the yoga thing (besides the good feelings and the increased flexibility it brings, etc.) is the news that was all over the internet here recently about the recent research how Yoga improves our sex life!! Huh? I was ALL over that!!! It was like, oh, hmm, yeah, I really need to get back into that yoga thing again.........

But maybe I need to try that garlic press thingy, as well, for my arms. Oh wait, we don't have a gun in the house........:lol:

Well, I didn't get my WO in yesterday. I felt myself sinking further and further into the couch and my eyes closing. Still, 13 days straight is a new record for me. I will start again today. I am having a good couple of weeks here and the scale is starting to make some good moves, so I won't stop now..........

10-04-2008, 09:12 AM
208.2, a little bump-up to be expected after a late dinner on Friday night. Also went to a neighbour's drop-in party before dinner and ate a few tortilla chips and dip, a little cheese. Next time I'll take veggies and dip and eat before I go :yes: However, 'twas nothing serious and I'm on track again today. Now I've just got to plan to stay OP tonight because we're having dinner with friends. They mostly do healthy stuff, though so it should be good. Wine is generally the issue when we go to their place because cocktail hour turns into two hours before dinner appears. Too long! When I do a dinner party, I try to make a point of keeping pre-dinner time to an hour so that we don't end up drinking and munching for too long.

I'm not so good at just drinking less wine. I'll make a bigger effort just to sip tonight -- no chugalug! :nono:

Jollygirl, sweetheart, I'm so sorry for your loss. It must always feel so devastating to have more than one close relative die so close together. :hug:

Modcat, you're so right -- this mortality business is a good reminder to live our lives. And sometimes we need that. :hug:

My husband's brother died a little over a year ago at 54. His mom was visiting us at the time and she'd just been diagnosed terminal. She died a few months afterwards. It was a really hard year for my husband but it was positive for him and us in many ways. He's a much kinder man now than he was, more relaxed. Much nicer to live with. He started trying to look after his health better, started to meditate, think about how he wanted to live his life.

OMmmmmmmG! I hadn't read that about yoga and your sex life but ... yeah, I need to do more yoga. ;) I've been doing just a little bit after my big workout of the day. Time to make the effort to get in more. It makes perfect sense that it would help. Bet tai chi does the same thing. :chin:

Beach, yeah, I think this week I might actually manage to move my ticker. I've been bouncing up and down from it since July. I need to remember how close I am to Onederland and stay excited myself. :cb:

So, anyway, aiming to do Day 1 again today. Which means keeping track of everything. :yes: K, Lovelies, have a great Saturday!

10-04-2008, 02:20 PM
Hi Yall,

Jolly! So sorry to hear about your loss. Last year my grandmother, who was completely together at the ripe old age of 95 (!) passed away. Still can't believe it. I always thought she'd live forever.

I'm trying to make good choices. Both in food and behaviour. Food seems to be easier than the behaviour, ahahah...

Arabella - i have a 4-pack of smirnoff ice's waiting for me in the fridge, and they've been there since I was diagnosed with mono.. I am sooo waiting for the all clear to drink a bit!!

Which reminds me - I really should be going to the dr's to get some blood tests done. I am needle phobic though, and don't relish the thought of that at all..

beach - wtg on the no-smoking! good for you, girl! I also have a rather compulsive personality, working on that. I don't know how to put limits on things. like - working too many hours, eating too much chocolate, haha, things like that..

Mod - you've lost a lot of weight! Has all of that been since July? I bet if I pulled my socks up I would be doing better. Hmm.

10-04-2008, 02:27 PM
Hey all. Thanks for the kind thoughts. I really appreciate the support. I too am trying to enjoy life to the fullest, and appreciate all of my blessings. Including the dog trying to sleep on my feet as I type :D

Beachlvr - uh, I have that shirt. And the hat. And the socks that say "waddle on, friends." I am a geek, what can I say;)

I have just found the bestest book. It is called "The Non-Runner's Marathon Guide for Women." It is 10% training tips and 90% sarcastic motivating humor. I have laughed so hard since starting reading.

Miriam, I am trying to make good choices too, but behavior is easier than food :( I kept my session with my trainer this morning, and will be running with my sister in a bit :drill:, even though I wanted to just veg out. I just can't stop the eating :tape: Keep trying though. At least I stopped the upward drift this week with a 2 pound loss.

Have a super day all :wave:

10-04-2008, 08:47 PM
Well, people, I was going to come in here and say, it's all too much, I'm going for something simple or going to stop all over again, BUT I've decided, no, that's why it's called a CHALLENGE, ah, like, duh. So, I am not allowing Friday, which was to be my start, but am calling Saturday my start and though it was nothing stellar, at MY CURRENT LEVEL, I am calling it liftoff. :^:

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I'm going to start a new thread soon since I'm starting a new challenge, soon, not right now.

mod -- Sounds good on your challenge. I know how hard it is to exercise after work. After having gotten through a day at work I always feel I deserve to do nothing, nothing I don't really want to do that is, or nothing that involves much effort. It's such a mental thing, really, because if I DO get to the gym I always feel more energized. My job is not a physical one. Sigh. The black shiba isn't all black. It's the ones you refer to, black with brown, though I have seen some all black ones. I used to read Runners World too, In fact, it used to be very hardcore and NOT for beginners or anybody actually in need of weight loss. But they have changed their editorial bent a great deal, which is what magazines have to do to keep afloat or to capture a greater share of the market. With the current popularity in marathons and races all over the place, it really can't be compared to the way things were. Really quite amazing.

jolly -- I'm very sorry to hear about your aunt. And it must be so hard for your mother. Hang in there, please.

beach -- Thanks. I am going to keep trying to put some sense and consistency into my days. I also MUST remember to be gentle with myself and encourage myself, something I rarely do. When I "blow" one part of my challenge, I tend to come down really hard on myself and fail to give myself recognition for the things I DID do and that's not being fair to myself. But I can't be bothered to split up all the aspects of my challenge, so I'm going to say that it's the overall picture of the challenge as well that will determine if the day was permitted or not. I won't though, for example, allow a day where I exercise, ate well, no cigs, no sugar and then went out and got smashed. One failure pulls the other down with it. A couple pints....maybe not, not unless it happens too often. Sigh. And, wow, major congrats on your no-smoking challenge. I didn't notice when you passed 21 days. That is truly fantastic!! OH, and, heh, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! :cheer2: :cheer3: :bday2you: :cheer2: :cheer3:

Arabella -- It's freaky the way we seem to be syncing our days.... :^:

miriam, Apple, anyone lurking or AWOL, hello and good luck! :wave:

10-05-2008, 12:23 AM
Wow! I did pretty good today--I ran/walked outside which is really much harder than the treadmill, especially since there are some hills around here. Just gentle hills you hardly even notice when you are driving but when you are running--whew!! Well with 3 dogs, I took one at a time (the two younger ones). I managed to get in 3.5 miles early in the day, then after dinner, walked with the old one about another mile for digestive purposes, and to give her some exercise. I am SO determined to hit my goals--about 6 more lbs. by halloween, and about 15 by xmas. I am in THE ZONE for now! :crossed:

miriam--well, no, hehe. Really 230 was my high--so I posted that, as well as some pics of me at that weight. When I joined around July 1st, was about 209, and really struggling to get any further. So I lost about 20 lbs in about 3 months. It's taken about 9 months to lose the 38 (almost 40!) pounds. But I am a big yo-yo. I hope to not be so ever again. I have been around 190 before, maybe 2-3 times before in the last 6 years. But every time, I have gotten off track and gained back even more than before (230 was the highest though). I've said it before, but I really think this site helping to keep me accountable and all the support available will be the difference for me this time. I can't wait to get to the maintainers!!

10-05-2008, 12:39 AM
beach--I love the new avatar! And yes, the evening walks are great! I had slacked off on them but used to do them most nights, and tonight I did one first time in a couple of months. It really is soooo nice and relaxing and a good meditative/serenity thing. I am resolved to try to do those more often.......

Red--the big picture is really what this is all about. I think your new plan is gonna work better for you. Yeah, the overall day is composed of a series of challenges/successes/goals. You will know if you end the day mostly on the positive side, or the negative side. You will get there!!

10-05-2008, 06:12 PM
Morning all. Rainy Monday here in Tokyo and I was up at 5 and getting ready to go to the gym before work. And since I can sit here listening to Santana's Everything is Coming Our Way I can say I am in a GOOD mood. (((cheer))) I was SO depressed the last couple days but pulled out of it yesterday. I just told myself to take deep breaths, stay calm and do what I could even it if wasn't all that much it was better than quitting AND if I did something I would feel that much better afterward. And I did and it turned out to be a good day. Sigh. I guess that's what it's all about. Pat on the back to me. :)

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modcat -- So glad to hear you are feeling strong and "in the zone!!" Isn't running outside so much more fun than the treadmill? I wish I could. I mean, of course, I can, but it's all people and buildings around here and there is no where nice to run that is not far, far away. So, this morning I am determined to get in some kilometers on the treadmill, boring as all get out or not. :strong:

Well, quiet from everyone else around here. I guess that means the Labor Day weekend is being celebrated. And, beach is going all-out on the birthday party! See you all soon :wave:


10-05-2008, 08:11 PM
Hey. Motivation is low today. Rainy fall weather. Didn't want to run. Blah blah blah. I Need to go at least hop on the bike for a bit :(

have a good day all :wave:

10-06-2008, 02:39 AM
Flyby Pals,

Jolly - thinking about you..

Red - happy to hear things are picking up for you!

I walked half of Jerusalem yesterday <well, that's what it FELT like> and I woke up SORE! Should be interesting at work today.. <not> I go to counseling on Mondays, hope today is a good one.

My big picture challenge is doing pretty well. Day 1 complete.

I'm pleased to be halfway to my weightloss goal, but that means I have even more work than I've done until now left!! Oh well...

10-06-2008, 01:54 PM
Happy Monday to all! I can say that now that it's noon. This morning not so much.

I not only met, but exceeded my birthday goal.. er, VERY early on Saturday morning. By the time I weighed this morning I had put back on a little bit, BUT met my goal on the dot!! I guess that's what lots of Low Country Boil and beer will do to a gal. I even did 3.6 miles Saturday... a gift to myself I suppose.

Mod - you are so right about not taking life for granted, and worrying about the little stuff. I had a boyfriend who when I used to get upset or mad about little stuff he would just say "perspective". And I'd stop and think about if it was really worth it. More often that not, it wasn't. Life IS just too darn short. :bubbles:

Arabella - Move That Ticker! <- That is supposed to sound like Move That Bus! on Extreme Home Makeover. hehe.. yeah, it's cheesy.:p

Thanks red! I think it was the best one yet! Even if it was my last 20 something one.
The overall picture is definately important. Now that everything is "sticking" I can't imagine doing one without the other. Like eating healthy without excercising, or vise versa. Even at 205#'s I feel healthier than I ever have in my entire life. At least that I can remember.
You seem to have a good idea of a well rounded plan that could be followed for life.

jolly - I love it! I will definately have to purchase some. I love that wick (sp?) fabric. Especially in socks, I have the hardest time finding good socks.
I hope you're doing ok, considering the circumstances. I hope you find your motivation today.

miriam - mono? Yuck!! I feel for you, I've had it before. I hate needles as well, and If i recall I never went back to have the tests to see if it was out of my system. I figured when I stopped sleeping 14 hours a day I'd know I was better. :^:
Fortunately working is not something I'm OCD about. Just drinking, smoking, and eating.

Well, Peeps, hope you all have a wonderful afternoon! Keep up all the hard work, it sure is paying off!

My Challenges - As of Thursday
12 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 0 Pauses
27 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
13 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 1 Pause

10-07-2008, 12:04 AM
Heh all.
Wasn't able (....uh...willing) to notch a day yesterday. My first pause falls....gulp. So early in the game. Oh well, excuses, excuses. I did get to the gym though.... :^:

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jolly -- How are you doing? Hope that rainy weather didn't bring you down. Heh, by the way, my "Courage to Start" by the Penguin came yesterday. I've only read the intro but I love his style. Thanks for reintroducing me to him! I am going to try to have courage again, courage to try once again, courage to hope again, courage to keep on keeping on.

miriam -- What a wonderful thought to be "walking half of Jerusalem." I have never been to Israel. It just seems all too dangerous. Isn't it a frightening place to live? So you're doing a big picture too? Oh, right! Great! Best of luck!

beach -- Good to see you! I'm glad to hear you had a great birthday. I couldn't figure what what you meant by "my last 20 something one" and then I got it.'s been a long time. I am going to join you on that no-smoking challenge perhaps. I am sick of it. Hadn't smoked for 20 years and now I can't seem to stop when I go drinking. I think my measure of when I should stop drinking is when I start reaching for the cigarettes. I have obviously at that point lost control.

10-07-2008, 01:50 AM
OK, so I did 1 hour of exercise early this morning, but for some reason, got too busy with stuff and didn't really eat until dinner--then because I was starved, haven't really stopped! Bad evening...... I will NOT like the scale tomorrow. I am planning to do A LOT tomorrow to work it off.

I agree miriam, the 2nd half of our goal will probably be the hardest for all of us to lose.

beach--that is a great word--perspective. I love it. And congrats on reaching your birthday goal!

jolly--I've yet to get that book, but i plan on it. Sounds like just what I need. That and the penguin man!

Red--hey at least you went to the gym! I did today as well, but because of the bad eating today, it was probably a wash at best, or even a backslide day. But we just gotta keep pushing on.........:lifter: :woops: :bike2:

10-08-2008, 02:06 AM
Hi all. Not much action around here again. And nothing good to report from this end. I blew yesterday but am NOT going to start the challenge over.

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I am learning from my failures, the slipups , the less-than-perfect days (if such a thing is definable). I am NOT giving up. I will prevail! Yeah!!! :cb:

10-08-2008, 02:49 AM
Red - kudos on the determination!!! Go, banana, go! :)

Mod- go go go on the exercise! I will hopefully be able to start sometime :P I went to the doctor yesterday and got a blood test, and after I had left I remembered he hasn't weitten to check my glucose, so I called to ask him to add it to the list of things being checked. Later, the doctor call ME on my cellphone <that's highly odd here> and told me that my Vitamin D is dangerously low and that I have to come in next week (tonight/tomorrow is yom kippur - no dr's) to discuss it. Hmmm. That didn't sound too good! I wonder what it means.

Big picture for me is doing pretty good. Even getting some sleep.

10-08-2008, 02:55 AM
Hang in there people!!

10-08-2008, 07:41 AM
Well, I think I have hit rock bottom. Luckily, before all the weight went back to my bottom. Because my eating has steadily gotten worse, I have lost that instant feedback when I have an "oops" that it doesn't taste/feel good anymore. But, with the sheer quantity of crap I have eaten in the last couple days, I guess my body had enough. I had to fight the urge to :barf: during class and the whole drive home. I still feel icky this morning. But, it did jump start my motivation to get my head out of my rear. I did not do cardio yet today, but did do yesterday and today's cardio. I am running tonight, and will try to bike and read after.

I wish I could bottle how awful I felt yesterday, so I could reuse that feeling when I think food will help anything other than actual need fuel hunger :(

So, on that happy note, I am ready to honestly restart my challenges. Give me a good boot ladies :dancer: All are level 3's

1) Follow menu

2) Daily workout

3) Daily log

Have a good day all. :wave:

10-08-2008, 08:01 AM
My challenge - 8 bottles of water a day. Sounds easy enough but most days I'm not getting them in. Figure the challenge will help.

10-08-2008, 08:08 AM
Jolly - there is a sure benefit of hitting rock bottom - it's all up from there!

Thinking of you..Good luck on your challenges, and yours, too, Fit.

10-08-2008, 12:22 PM
Fit--that is an excellent goal--one of my unspoken ones as well. I am adding that as an official challenge now!

I am keeping track of my exercise challenge on another thread, and I am happy to report I have exercised now 18 of the last 19 days. :yay: I am getting close to 21 days for that. My other challenges are not too bad either. In that time, I have seriously cut back the alcohol b/c I learned that besides the extra unnecessary calories it reeaally slooows down the fat-burning metabolism of our bodies for the next several hours! By as much as 95%!!!! So why exercise, and then defeat that hard effort?

So I have had alcohol only 3 times in the last 19 days. Only two more days to go--and I know I will do that.

Processed junk foods? well, that may have to be changed. I have begun to depend on them a little bit again, the "diet" ones, when I am dying for something sweet or salty.


Exercise: 19 days (1 pause)
Alcohol: 19 days (3 pauses)
Junk overly processed foods: :(
Water: 96 oz. every day (been pretty close, but officially, Day 1)

10-08-2008, 12:32 PM
Jolly: It's so hard to get off track. And then, to force yourself to come to a screeching halt and reverse that direction---oooh I feel your pain. The first few days are the worst. But once you have built up a few days in a row of positive behavior, it will be a ton easier to want to not wreck that streak. Just hang in there for a mini-goal of 3 days. Once you put that 3rd day in the books, then try for 4. Just think, 4 days. After that, you realize it's been one whole week!

When I get to one week, I really don't want to wreck that effort. (Oh I still have my bad days, but they are usually not totally, from beginning to end, a bad day. Or at least, to a lesser degree than in another life of mine!)

We are all subject to falling off the wagon, but the the journey is not over, and today is another day. Good Luck!!

10-08-2008, 12:47 PM
miriam--one thing about Vitamin D. It is a fat-soluble vitamin. Why are you dangerously low? I'm sure there could be a whole host of reasons, possibly something to do with your mono.

But one thing that is possible also is gluten intolerance. Has your doctor checked that? My mom has it, now for about 20 years. When she was first diagnosed, no one had ever heard of it, and actually she had been for at least 3-5 years before her accurate diagnosis.

Anyway, much more common now. For whatever reason. But one symptom is not being able to absorb any fat-soluble vitamins, along with calcium. Her bone loss with her increasing fatigue was attributed to osteoporosis and "normal" aging for years. Initial advice was take calcium and multivitamin supplements and get in some exercise, including some strengthening/weight-bearing stuff. And yes, it was also attributed to her low thyroid--they did find that out and started her on that supplement. But the celiac disease was undiagnosed until she saw a specialist for her eventual extreme bone loss.

Remember--I am not a doctor (well, I am, but not that kind) and this does NOT constitute any medical advice at all!! :D Just a thought.......

10-08-2008, 04:47 PM
Heh there...flyby here. Just wanted to say I am calling an OK on yesterday. I got to the gym. I ran, not much, but enough to work up a good sweat.

The food was acceptable with some high points and lows mixed in. I'm saying, in view of THE BIG PICTURE, for example, that I feel absolutely without hope, yesterday was a relatively speaking good day. :^:

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10-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Hi there--I'm new to 3FC and would love to join you. I read up on the rules and think I get them.

I'd only like to have start with one challenge for now as more than that would probably be a bit overwhelming.

Challenge--Do at least 15 minutes of activity every day. Things like chasing after my toddler, cleaning the house, or gardening do not count. I'm referring to the type of activity that either really gets your heart rate up and keeps it there or resistance/strength training.

I think this is a level 2.

I'm starting tomorrow!!!


10-09-2008, 06:05 AM
WElcome Shari. That sounds like a good goal to start on. Good luck!

I am off to start day two of my challenges. Hurah. I am a little worried though. Went out for my run last night, and the ankle pain is starting to get to me. I am concerned I might be getting tiny stress fractures. Going to get it checked out now, in hopes it doesn't derail my marathon plans for next year. I am just scared that I will have to stop running, now that I love running.

The amount of eating I have been doing finally caught up with the scale :o, and I am sore because I haven't been working out hard so my run last night was tough :( This is the sort of positive attitude start to the day, which is going to make it a golden day!

Hope you all have a better one :wave:

10-09-2008, 08:46 AM
207.2. I've been (mostly) doing well and finally get to move my ticker. Momentous occasion, to be sure. But I have dreams of moving it again tomorrow :crossed:

Giving myself three pauses.

At least 12,500 steps a day



Must go to WW WI, no matter what!

3L water a day

Either yoga or tai chi daily (ideally, both)

Daily weigh-in

Daily report

8-10 servings fruit/veggies

I hope to get a chance to come back in and catch up later on. Let's make this a good one!

10-09-2008, 01:53 PM
Hope everyone is doing well!

Red - I completely agree with the stop drinking when you want a cigarette! I'm the same way. Not sure if this is right before or After I've said or done something totally stupid. Either way, at that point, it's time to call it a night!

mod - Congrats on the exercise! That's great. I've found it's almost impossible for me to exercise 7 days a week. I try to tell myself that my body needs a break, but in reality, I think I'm just being lazy. But If I get in 6 good days, I try not to be hard on myself.

jolly - :kickbutt: Good luck on your challenges, missy!!

miriam - hope all is well with you at your next Dr's. appt. Keep us posted.

:wave: Arabella, Fit, & Shari!!!

I'm a bit discouraged today. The scale isn't moving. I think I may have caused more damange last weekend than I thought. I skipped the gym Tuesday too because I had too many errands to run after work. I did go yesterday and worked out pretty hard.
On top of that, I'm going to the State Fair tomorrow for a concert. A friend bought tickets for my birthday. Luckily, we won't leave until after work, and it will be over soon after the concert. But I'm willing to bet that there will be time to buy awful, unhealthy, fair food. I... just... don't... think... I... can... resist..... :( I must go home and stare at my size medium cruise dress to motivate myself.
My Challenges - As of Wednesday
14 Days Complete-Stay within my daily WW Points - 0 Pauses
29 Days Complete-Stop Smoking - 0 Pauses
15 Days Complete-Gym 7 Days a week - 0 Pause

10-09-2008, 02:12 PM
beach--that's ok, really, just think moderation...... I went a bit off plan yesterday with 2 gf's, but I kept it moderate (for me) and am going soon to the gym, so I won't beat myself up too much about it. Acknowledge it, and move on, that's what I am saying nowadays.

And no, I know I can't exercise 7 out of 7, but I put that as a goal, and lately, more often than not, I am getting in at least 5 if not 6 days/week. That's so much better than the 2-3 days/week I had done at the beginning of this latest push to get in shape. Of course, I am getting a good mood elevation from it too, and I just feel so much better, and starting to depend on it to help deal with some stress issues in my life. I used to read a lot to escape. I still do, but not at the expense of my WO. Now I try to do a little WO at least, then get to READ as a reward.

Anyway, beats the heck out of eating or drinking or shopping to reward myself or help to deal.

WTG Jolly, Red, Arabella!

Hi Fit, Shari, Miriam! :wave:

10-09-2008, 03:23 PM
thanks for the welcome everyone. I haven't done my workout yet for today, but plan to do it tonight. I'll check in again later.

10-09-2008, 07:08 PM
Sorry, another flyby. Welcome to the new people! :welcome:

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10-10-2008, 03:30 AM
Hi Everybody!

Flyby for me..
Doing relatively well on big picture, yet i'm still not going to count days till the Holidays are over - the lack of schedule is such a killer for me...

10-10-2008, 09:44 AM
Hey all. Just had to do a quick drop in, as I am freaking out. I am the opposite of Miriam here - I am technically meeting my challenges, but as far as the big picture, I stink, and I just can't seem to stop myself. I am not working out hard enough, and I am not monitoring my eating. I just can't seem to pull it together. Was my friend right when she said school would start, I would get stressed, and put all the weight back on? How do I kick myself back into gear????


10-10-2008, 11:36 AM
207. So close to ducking under ticker. This is officially as low as I've gotten in the last five or six years.
.6 down at WW this a.m. Next week will be a good one! :yes:

I went to tai chi class last night -- I'd forgotten how good I feel afterwards, seriously, a little blissed-out -- and the world looks beautiful. I think I need it!

Jollygirl: "I wish I could bottle how awful I felt yesterday, so I could reuse that feeling when I think food will help anything other than actual need fuel hunger." Wow, I think I need to tattoo someplace prominent. Hmmmm... maybe a note on my fridge would help.

Beach, why don't you just decide on what food you want the most at the fair and have that? Sometimes I can eat my way through a pile of stuff that isn't what I really want. :dz:

Shari :welcome: I've been reading a lot about how brief high-intensity gets you a lot farther than moderate intensity for a longer time. I might look into that myself... :chin:

Modcat, me too -- I need my exercise for the stress relief. Once in a blue moon if I'm not feeling well I'll skip a few days in a row. I tell you, I'm a wreck by the end of it. :stress:

Fit :welcome: Glug. Yeah, it's good for us.

:wave: All, let's make this a good one!

Apple Blossom
10-10-2008, 06:05 PM
Hello everyone! I just spent a whole lot of time catching up on posts. I was away for 6 days and then I just kind of did nothing the last few days since I've been back. While I love getting out of town, traveling with 3 kids is no vacation.
I did make it through my no beer challenge!!! :encore: I'm starting another one today. I have started to be unable to sleep well if I drink, and the sleep is beginning to be more important....
So my new challenges will be (and I think they might be TOO challenging, but I'll give it a shot)
No Beer, 3 pauses allowed
Run 1 mile a day, 3 pauses allowed
Daily salad, as a meal OR part of a meal, 3 pauses allowed (need to eat more veggies)
Jolly, hope your ankle is OK.
Hello everyone else! gotta go!

10-11-2008, 03:36 AM
Ah yeah...well, it was the sugar devil that did it...all pauses fall. I am NOT yet starting over.

Day 3 completed NO pauses left.

This was as of this morning (Saturday) so I still have to get through today to notch Day 4.

I've taken to reading "no drinking blogs," "sober blogs," even "no pot-smoking blogs" though I don't smoke pot, in that way I'm probably lucky to have gotten away from the U.S. of the '70s....anyhow...yeah, I'm reading blogs because I just go out and party way too much, way too much. Ok, Ok, I can go days, even weeks without drinking. I'm not...knock on alkie, but I could be! The main thing is, my life is on standstill and it's getting easier and easier to just keep it that way when you go through the motions at work and look forward to a buzzing good night. Whoopee!

Anyhow, the reason I'm tellin' youall this is because there are great links, common ties, to overeating, wanting that sugar buzz or high or just wanting to eat till you're kind of numb. Wow, are there ever links. Just that with the eating you can still walk straight!

Well, I updated my blog. You can get the details, or should I say, extended ramblings, there!

Anyhow, people, I'm still hanging in here. Whoopdeedoo, eh?! :dancer:

Later all! :wave:

10-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Red--I had thought that before. I can see how there would be several similarities. I may read some of them for inspiration. I still have those days....
You are still to be commended for the effort to change bad habits you are putting in. Thinking it all through is part of the process.

Arabella--So right on just eating what you really want sometimes, instead of eating a bunch of "substitutes" that didn't satisfy you anyway and may have added up to more in the long run. If you really have that craving--indulge it a little bit.

Apple!--Was wondering where you were! I agree about the drinking, which is one reason I've drastically cut down. I need my sleep! When I am well rested, I want to exercise more, I am stronger with my food choices, and in a generally better frame of mind all day. The other reason is as I think i posted here before, b/c I learned how alcohol drastically slows down the fat-burning mechanism (the metabolism) for hours afterwards, like up to 95% slower, so why work-out and then un-do all the good, hard effort?? I am finding I don't want to negate my work outs--there was such an effort to do them somedays!

HI :wave: to everyone else! Gotta go to the gym now!

10-11-2008, 04:19 PM
207. That's holding steady for two days -- dare I dream tomorrow it'll drop a notch? I'm serving a big Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow but have no intention of pausing. I'm going to plan what I'm having, track what I eat and forgo things like rolls, chips and dessert.

I went for a run this morning, went to tai chi class and walked the long way home. Now, I have to say, I'm a little tired. :yawn: Oh, well, I'll make it an early night tonight.

Mocat, I've always felt like there was something about alcohol that impeded weight loss beyond just the caloric content! I thought it was a hormonal effect. Maybe it's a double-whammy kind of thing...

Red Balloon, you're so right -- it's all substance abuse and we do it for many of the same reasons. Just our choice of poison. And maybe we can walk straight, but we sure have side effects too -- we'll call 'em love handles.

Apple, I'm always exhausted after a trip even if I'm travelling by myself! With three kids? :tired: Hope you're feeling more rested.

Well, I've got to run out and pick up a few more things for tomorrow night's dinner. And then the plan is to prepare a few of the dishes tonight so tomorrow won't be crazy.

Happy Saturday, all!

10-11-2008, 05:53 PM
Mod, Arabella! :wave:

Day 4 completed!!! And it was a beauty!!!! NO pauses left

10-12-2008, 08:24 AM
205.8. :carrot: :carrot: That's 1.2 down from Friday and the best part of a week to get more off for next week.

Good time to have a little progress, too, with this dinner coming up tonight. Here and now, I pledge: not a roll, not a chip, no dessert. (I might have one taste of someone else's but maybe not. Might not be prudent.)

I could have those things with my saved points but I know I'd be up again tomorrow and I just don't want to see it.

K, just going to look up a couple recipes and then DH and I are going for our long Sunday walk, which will take care of most of my steps for today.

Hope all have a lovely Sunday! :wave:

10-12-2008, 09:26 AM
Hey all. I need to vent my mood - sorry :(

My aunt's funeral was yesterday. Was hard enough - my poor mom is just heartbroken, and then add in her brother, only remaining sibling, left without even saying goodbye. Then, I was wearing this sweater I loved - a soft gray I thought was so pretty and so flattering. I bought it when I splurged on some clothes that fit my new size. My cousin's aunt asked me when I was due. :fr: My mom said I should have told her "9 months and1 day after tonight, if I get lucky!" However, after losing 65 pounds, and wearing an outfit I thought was nice, to still be thought pregnant! I was crushed. The other thing is looking all around at everyone. I will be 38 in a couple weeks. I have nobody. I want a family of my own. It doesn't help when people say "you just haven't met the right person" or "you just need someone real special to appreciate you." I can't even attract attention from the wrong guys. The only time I have ever gotten any male attention was in college as a barfly. What is so wrong with me that guys won't even see if there is something worthwhile about me??? I used to joke that if nothing else, plan B was to be 90 years old, in a nursing home, wheel into some blind guy, get married, have one night of passion, and die from the experience. it isn't so funny anymore. What is the point of getting healthy and in shape, if I am going to die alone anyway???

Sorry. I am taking a few days here to see if it even matters anymore. Everyone else, keep up the good work with your challenges.

10-12-2008, 02:03 PM
Jolly--:hug: I feel so bad for you. I can't say I am in your situation exactly, but I feel your stress and agony even over cyberspace. And maybe I can't give advice, but it helps to talk it out. I do know someone who was with someone for 8 years. He never wanted to get married or have children. She was almost 38 and she decided she did want to get married and she did want a child. I don't know exactly how she did it, but she did. She broke it off, moved out, started going out with friends, etc.
Of course she started working out, losing a bit (although she wasn't really too much overweight) took care of her appearance and well, she met someone, got married and just had a baby! She is thirty-eight! All within a year-and-a-half.

There are guys out there who think the same thing--they would really like to meet someone, have a family. I do think it is much more difficult the older we get--I mean, where do you meet someone if it isn't at school or at work?
There is NOTHING wrong to look at this as another goal, another challenge to work towards. We cannot just sit around and wait for good things to drop into our lap in any other area, so why this? Maybe make it a priority to work towards, and heck, why do you suppose all these on-line dating sites are sooo popular? Thousands in the same boat--maybe living in small population areas, don't know where to go to meet the right kind of mate, etc.

I personally know three people who met their spouse on-line. One is my brother--he and his wife have been very happily married for 7 years now. Two were people from work. And yes, the relationships there started out long-distance, but finally they got together and are married with kids now and everything.

As far as the tactless cousin's comment--:devil: The problem with cold weather clothes is you have to cover up your shape so much. I lived in the Midwest for 41 years--I know! Try to shrug it off--I hope she didn't deliberately say that to be mean, but you never know. Don't give her anymore importance in your mind. You know what hard work you are putting in to change your life and let yourself be your own coach and motivator and inspiration. Try to find validation elsewhere, (like maybe here?)

I hope things start looking up for you soon.......

10-12-2008, 02:38 PM
I'll throw in another comment -- Jolly, when you look around at all the couples, I'm sure you're thinking of them as happy. But you know a lot of them aren't even if they might appear to be in public.

I guess what I'm saying is that there are good things and bad things about both being married and being single. Whichever our situation, we just need to enjoy our lives.

And I do think that if you want a partner it'll happen. Just focus on yourself, living a satisfying life. And as modcat said, it can all happen very quickly. Life can turn on a dime!


10-12-2008, 03:49 PM
Arabella - WTG on your loss! Look at your ticker go!! :)

Red - keep it up! In the long run - it is the BIG PICTURE which counts!

Jolly - I'm so sorry to hear that you're going through such a rough time! I hate the "when are you due"? question. And you really have gotten soooo far! I hear ya on the being all alone part. Do you get out anywhere where you could meet new people and see new faces?

I have been at work FOREVER today - 10 1/2 hours!! I'm going HOME now!!! Tomorrow night starts the holiday of Succot - (tabernacles) - for 8 days. Gonna need a lot of positive thoughts to both survive being home and not eat myself to death!!!!!

10-12-2008, 07:44 PM
Day 5 completed NO pauses left. :dance:

I notched another excellent day. OK, it's all made easy by the fact that I am NOT in the hated office. It's SO hard to notch good days when I don't want to be there. Let's see if I can continue. I have decided that the experiment with controlled sugar and alcohol is at an end! I simply cannot control it. Perhaps for a day or two or three but not in the long run. I slowly snowball, my eating and drinking along with my gut. Not pretty.

jolly -- :drill: PULL OUT OF IT!!!! "What is the purpose of getting healthy and in shape?" My God, do you think we're all here trying to get the bodies we love and get healthy in order to hook up or stay hooked up with some guy?!?!??! Please! Getting/staying healthy is about being able to get out and feel good about ourselves while we're alive, about being able to take advantage of this amazing world. Obviously. And, we ALL die alone. Man is mortal. Please forget the needing a guy thing. I know you're having a low moment here, but stop humiliating yourself. You, strong, independent, gutsy you, suddenly crumbling to the ground moaning about needing a guy. You're having the 38-year-old equivalent of a 2-year-old's tantrum, but it sounds better because so many more people are willing to buy into it. Have some pride.
I am single, always have been, if I meet someone I like and he likes me, so be it, if I don't, so be it. I went to bars, oh, boy, did I ever. I wasn't looking for a guy, but I admit, somewhere in the back of my mind, maybe a little bit. Then I realized, my God, I've done this before. A bar is NOT where I'm going to find the guy I want, the guy I don't have to redefine to fit my likes. I'll find him DOING the things I love. So, just keep doing the things you love. If that's running, keep at it. You're probably not entirely happy with yourself yet though you've come light years. When you're totally happy with yourself, you and that guy will come together....and then YOU won't want him anymore... :lol3: Sorry, that's the way it works...
And the pregnant comment, come on! You should have just turned to her and say, "It's not a baby. It's fat." Nothing biting, nothing defensive. It just is. And jolly, I bet you looked wonderful in your new sweater. :hug:

10-13-2008, 07:21 AM
Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, I am having a GOOD streak. Just got home and am sitting down to my curry that I cooked this morning with extra veggies. Did a LOT of exercise today, walked, rode my horse, walked some more, jogged 3 K at the gym, did weight training, walked some more! Wow. Can we spell FULL MOON! (Twilight Zone music many of you are too young to remember Rod Serling and that show?)

Well, I won't call it yet but Day 6 is looking to be a goner! You bet!!

jolly -- Have we come home from that little pity party yet? You just keep doing the things you love and being the YOU you love and things are going to come your way. It may take a loooong time, but all good things do. Don't forget that. :sunny:

miriam -- I've been wondering about your motto under your user name there....does that "rowdy" part refer to the Red part, the team part or the member part? I'm afraid to ask. :rofl: Happy Succot!

Arabella -- Congrats on that 1.2 lbs down. You can still make October Onederland!

mod, Apple, beach, Shari, fit, others! How ya all doing? :wave:

10-13-2008, 10:51 AM
RED--LMAO! You are in fine form lately! I do agree with your point of view as well--we need to do this FOR US! And the point you made about once we get a guy, we often don't want him..:lol3:

Oh it's so good to see you feeling so good! I am so happy for you! Yeah I think we set ourselves up to fail, and are WAY too hard on ourselves, where others we would give a break. We are all making improvements, we have all come a long way. We should start being PROUD of ourselves.

As Jillian said on TBL (this is the first season I have watched this show) why is it we think we don't DESERVE the attention and effort and money it takes to look and feel GOOD? Why are we cheating ourselves? Why do we put ourselves down?

No real answer there, just, it makes you think, huh? :chin:

miriam--my gosh, you have so many holidays in a row!!! How difficult it must be to stay on plan! Of course, you don't have Thanksgiving there, and I guess maybe no Halloween? But then Hannakuh--EIGHT days!! Is that an eating holiday with special food like Christmas?
And you with 6 kids--of course you have to celebrate them all! I am realizing how difficult this journey is for you to be able to devote attention to yourself and be able to lose weight as well. WTG! :flow1:

Gotta go to work today--Yaay! I'm actually happy these days to go to work--b/c my work week is too light. I need some $$$!! See ya later!

10-13-2008, 12:00 PM
Two pauses left. I didn't go overboard at all at the party last night but had a few too many rice crackers and dip. Stayed away from dessert, rolls, stuffing, potato chips as I swore I would. But I didn't track, maybe had a little more wine than I should have. So. Onward

207.2 again this a.m. but I'm sure it's the rice crackers and dip and will be gone again tomorrow. :yes: I'm sure I wasn't over calorie-wise.

Red, what a great rant -- High FIIIIIIIIIVE, Girlfriend! And the important thing is to remember to be ourselves and live our lives whether we're partnered or not -- sometimes it's much harder to do that WHEN we've got an SO, in my experience. So many trade-offs.

Miriam, good luck with the marathon of holidays! So hard to keep focused when they're so relentless, huh.

Modcat, I loved it when Gillian said that. And it seemed like the first time she was being really genuine instead of reading a script, too, which was nice.

K, Wimmen, let's get out there and do this thing!