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wife2abadge
08-15-2008, 05:36 PM
I didn't see anyone else with this question, but artificial sweetener gives me headaches. I'd be okay with having no sugar on Phase One, but I'm wondering if there's any sort of guideline about using sugar after P1? I don't eat much of it, but would want a tsp with my oatmeal at the very least.


walking2lose
08-15-2008, 05:43 PM
Have you tried stevia or any other natural no cal sweetners? Maybe that would be a solution for you.

wife2abadge
08-15-2008, 08:50 PM
I'm a bit wary of using Stevia.


TwynnB
08-15-2008, 09:22 PM
How 'bout agave nectar with oatmeal? I use it as a pancake syrup, it's wonderful.

Also, I don't care for artificials either. I'm on phase 2, and I'd rather use a small amount real sugar (which is a rarity in say, a salad mixture) than an artificial. Sparingly, I have still lost weight.

wife2abadge
08-16-2008, 04:30 PM
Hmmm...I don't know. Fructose gives me TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, DISGUSTING gas!

walking2lose
08-16-2008, 04:39 PM
I'm a bit wary of using Stevia.


I'm just curious ... why are you wary of using stevia or other natural sweeteners? I have a stevia plant in my herb garden - I can pick a leaf off and chew it, and it is incredibly sweet. I buy powdered or sometimes liquid stevia. Xylitol (from berries) is another natural sweetner that some people prefer to stevia (too much stevia can give a bitter taste). BTW, I don't think a teaspoon of sugar in your oatmeal will do you any harm.

chickybird
08-16-2008, 07:46 PM
Sometimes people who are sensitive to artificial sweeteners are also sensitive to stevia. I get headaches, diarrhea and I vomit for several days if I have any artificial sweeteners, including the ones included in traditional toothpastes, mouthwashes, and medicines. Stevia was not as bad, but not something I cared to try again.
I'm not a SB'er, but I think it's a great program. Hope it's okay I posted.

wife2abadge
08-17-2008, 04:38 PM
The CSPI had an article on stevia and recommended not using it until more testing is done on it. Their info is here if you want to read it:
http://www.cspinet.org/nah/4_00/stevia.html

I did order some agave nectar -- we'll see if it causes me gastrointestinal issues or not.

KO
08-17-2008, 10:47 PM
Could you use some fruit or NSA applesauce in your oats? I also like agave

wife2abadge
08-18-2008, 05:53 PM
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll see how I do with the agave nectar.

walking2lose
08-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Wife2 - thanks for posting that link. Since I do use stevia, I was interested in reading what might be hazardous about it, as I am concerned about what I put in my body (which is why I'm using stevia in the first place in place of splenda!!). The article was interesting, but it's 8 years old and references studies and work done in the 80s and 90s (1985, 1998). I also clicked on the linked at the bottom of the article, but that took me to an article referencing work on stevia done in 1989.

Since all of the negative information on stevia is 10-20 years old, I'm wondering if it's possible that it has now been found to be safe? I am also assuming that it is FDA approved (I'm not sure though?), since I know it is now being used and sold in the US in diet sodas.

If you (or anyone else) know the current research on the safety of using stevia, I would like to read it. I currently use a bit in my coffee, and I occasionally use it in smoothies or on my oatmeal.

Thanks so much, and I hope you enjoy the agave nectar!

wife2abadge
08-19-2008, 11:44 AM
The FDA banned stevia in 1991, but decided in 1995 to permit stevia to be used as a dietary supplement, although not as a food additive. I think Coca Cola is planning to use it in sodas sold outside the U.S., but is not allowed to inside the U.S.

Belle Mer
08-19-2008, 12:12 PM
Stevia is perfectly healthy, despite all the negative press. I've been using it for 20 years. The FDA banned it due to the huge sugar companies lobby effort. There's a lot of resistance to stevia, because it works much better than artificial sweeteners and sugar.

In Japan, stevia has been used for decades with no ill effects.

Ciaran60
08-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Actually Stevia in soda is being sold in the USA already (as I have a 6 pack sitting here that I picked up from my local whole foods store).

Interesting recent article on the process of getting it approved and of course all of the big companies lining up to get their piece of the market :
//health.usnews.com/articles/health/living-well-usn/2008/07/28/the-zero-calorie-sweetener-stevia-arrives.html


And you can bet the sugar industry worked hard at keeping this off the market.

walking2lose
08-19-2008, 10:14 PM
Actually Stevia in soda is being sold in the USA already (as I have a 6 pack sitting here that I picked up from my local whole foods store).

And you can bet the sugar industry worked hard at keeping this off the market.

That's what I thought too, though I haven't seen it locally yet. I did some further reading yesterday and found that indeed the sugar industry did work very hard to not allow stevia, and FDA caved and only allowed it sold as a supplement. That's been reversed.

I think I will continue to enjoy it in my coffee. Thanks everyone for the info!

Thin4Good
08-20-2008, 12:27 AM
Can anyone tell me why agave nectar is ok? From looking at the nutrition information it doesn't seem very low in sugar. Is it digested differently? I have some in my kitchen but I haven't used it for anything yet.

TwynnB
08-20-2008, 08:43 AM
Agave nectar, if I remember right, is 60 cal/Tablespoon, which is high in calories. BUT, it is a low glycemic index, so it won't cause a spike in glucose levels, and therefore not trigger cravings.

So, it's an alternative for sugar, but you have to be easy on it!

(perfect replacement for pancake syrup, IMHO)

beachgal
08-20-2008, 04:13 PM
You'll find more discussion on this subject in the Natural Sugar Substitutes (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139395)thread in the main SBD forum.

Wife2aBadge, Dr. A might want to konk me over the head for saying this, but as long as you kept it to a very, very small amount (like a measuring teaspoon a day), you might be able to have some sugar in P2. If you look at some of the things that are recommended (such as FF Cool Whip or FF 1/2 n' 1/2), you'll notice that they are made of sugar, but the serving size is so small, they're allowed. You might use that as a guide. But if you did it, I'd try to use as natural a sugar as possible, thinking that the less it's processed, the less the effect on your system. :shrug:

quiddkidd06
09-01-2008, 09:10 PM
Ciaran,

What is the Stevia sweetened Soda called? I'd love to find some for myself! :)

Ciaran60
09-02-2008, 01:26 PM
The name is Zevia and it came in a couple flavors. :)

wife2abadge
09-03-2008, 02:55 PM
Thanks. I'm on day 5 of P1 and for the few ricotta desserts I've had I've put in 1/3 or 1/2 tsp of sugar instead of the artificial stuff. It tastes sweet enough for me and I haven't noticed any mad desire to run out for chocolate chip cookies. :D



Wife2aBadge, Dr. A might want to konk me over the head for saying this, but as long as you kept it to a very, very small amount (like a measuring teaspoon a day), you might be able to have some sugar in P2.:

Jlyne327
07-15-2010, 09:44 PM
I get headaches from artificial sweeteners too. I do, however, like agave. I'm on the fence with stevia just because I don't like the after-taste.

AimeeO
07-30-2010, 05:39 PM
I really don't like to use chemical sweeteners. I figure if I choose to use real sugar I will just control how much of that food I eat. I wonder...is raw sugar better than white sugar? Also do you have to adjust the usage in the recipe or use the same amount? Thoughts....

CyndiM
07-31-2010, 07:10 AM
From a South Beach perspective sugar is sugar so raw is no different than processed. Actually as far as your body is concerned that's true too. It has the same impact on your body with or without any chemicals used for processing.

LindsaysMommy
07-31-2010, 08:24 PM
I have only found myself needing Splenda for my NF Yogurt to help it out, because it's really bitter to me, and a packet for some tea, I don't think that is too bad.

AimeeO
08-05-2010, 05:54 PM
I have found when I drink a diet pop I get a headache. I only allow one every couple of days just because after a while water tastes...well...just like water. I have been making the SB desserts with real sugar but I only enjoy them seldomly. My boys on the other hand love the recipes I have made so far.