Weight Loss Support - I don't eat doughnuts and potato chips, Charlize




KitgetsFit
08-06-2008, 12:07 PM
I'm watching an E! special about celebrity slim-downs and it's making me pretty peeved. :mad:

They're congratulating Jennifer Aniston for going from 130 lbs to 100 lbs. But that's just the tip of the iceburg. Every time they talk about someone who actually had a significant weight loss (like losing 50+ pounds), they act like all that person needed to do was stop eating cake all day and start eating fruit and vegetables. I don't eat cake all day. I can't remember the last time I ate cake. There is a gray area to eating incorrectly! I think I've consumed too many carbs from breads, cereal, pasta, white rice instead of brown, foods with white-enriched flour, not eating enough vegetables, drinking too much juice and diet soda, and eating late at night. But I do not eat candy, cookies, cakes all day and sit around wondering gee, what would happen if I ate an apple?

They said Charlize Theron gained weight for a role by eating potato chips and doughnuts. I don't eat those things either. Sigh.


bargoo
08-06-2008, 12:10 PM
I wouldn't pay any attention to what these reports say. Most of it is hype.

Ija
08-06-2008, 12:13 PM
I guess if I had to put the weight on quickly for a movie role I would opt to eat something fattening, but I wasn't in a hurry to get the weight on and I'm not in a hurry to get it off. Dropping a significant amount of weight requires more than just passing on the chips (as you and I both know). It peeves me too that they pretend it's so easy.


Mrs Snark
08-06-2008, 12:26 PM
Most TV is silly. Celebrity-dom is silly.

shelby897
08-06-2008, 12:28 PM
You know, I could lose the 100 pounds I want if I had a personal trainer and dietician, like the majority of them do... They can live in their world, I'll stay in mine :) If they want to think I eat doughnuts and potato chips all day, let them -- I'll keep thinking they eat nothing and party, etc. all the time.

kittycat40
08-06-2008, 12:32 PM
You know, I could lose the 100 pounds I want if I had a personal trainer and dietician, like the majority of them do... They can live in their world, I'll stay in mine :) If they want to think I eat doughnuts and potato chips all day, let them -- I'll keep thinking they eat nothing and party, etc. all the time.

don't forget your own cook too! :p

Mrs Snark
08-06-2008, 12:34 PM
You know, I have to admit I pretty much DID eat cake and cookies and potato chips all day long. LOL. See, I was perpetually "going on a diet starting Monday" (always the next Monday of course), so I was always in the mode of stuffing in the worst food I could think of because I was "giving it up soon". But the "giving it up" thing never actually happened, of course.

This was an excellent diet for a sumo wrestler, not so excellent for me.

PhotoChick
08-06-2008, 12:37 PM
I haven't read a single article where any celeb "pretended it was so easy" to lose weight.

I think about Matt Damon gaining weight, Russell Crowe, Charlize Theron, etc. They all say that they relaxed their regular healthy eating habits and intensive workouts (which for most celebs are pretty strict) and allowed themselves to eat things they don't normally eat. For some of them, that might be potato chips and donuts - and why would it piss you off if SHE found that eating those things made her gain weight. Just because she's saying that's what SHE did, doens't mean she's saying that's what every fat person does. Russell Crowe said that he gained weight for The Insider by eating hamburgers and drinking whiskey and cutting back on his workouts .. does that mean that he thinks every fat person eats hamburgers and drinks whiskey?

Aside from that, I've also read articles where the celebs that gained weight for their roles have then said that they busted a$$ to get back into shape for the next movie - cutting out everything but lean protein and veggies and putting in 3-4 hours a day with a trainer or at the gym.

As far as hiring trainers and so forth ... celebs spend money to keep them in shape to do their jobs - just like anyone else. Quite frankly I don't get all the resentment and anger about celebs. Their job is to entertain ... they choose the job and they take the steps to make sure they can do what they're paid money to do. It's no different for a celeb to hire a trainer and a dietitian to keep them in shape than it is for me to go to a workshop to learn about photographic lighting or a data programmer to take a training course on the latest system updates.

Honestly, this thread sounds like sour grapes to me.

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rockinrobin
08-06-2008, 01:01 PM
You know, I could lose the 100 pounds I want if I had a personal trainer and dietician, like the majority of them do....

don't forget your own cook too! :p

Ya know, I used to sit and watch Oprah with her personal trainers and her fancy gym equipment and her personal cook and think,"Not fair!!! If only I had those things, I could lose weight too."

And then I figured out that I did have a personal cook - ME. I mean, gosh I was the one doing the cooking anyway. I just wasn't cooking healthy foods. As for the personal trainer. Well, walking is cheap. So is a reistance band.

Like it or not, those celebs still have to do the hard work themselves. No one is doing the work for them. There still the ones resisting all that temptation and so on.

UrsusMaritimus
08-06-2008, 01:15 PM
Re: Oprah - You're right, Robin, but I do think having a personal chef who plans and cooks every meal for you AND someone who does the grocery shopping AND a trainer who plans and supervises your workouts probably does make things a bit easier.

Just my two cents. :)

EZMONEY
08-06-2008, 01:19 PM
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Like it or not, those celebs still have to do the hard work themselves. No one is doing the work for them. There still the ones resisting all that temptation and so on.

Wise words from our VERY OWN 3FC CELEBRITY ROCKIN' ROBIN :carrot:


she knows....she knows....;)

vikkivma
08-06-2008, 01:19 PM
And there's the big factor -- Oprah. Now, I love her. Don't get me wrong.

But she has all of those things. She could hire an entire restaurant just for herself and buy an entire gym just for herself and she still struggles with her weight constantly.

As for stars using things to gain weight, I think it's just that these people are on such strict programs that they're just relishing the chance to be really bad or something.

Michelle125
08-06-2008, 01:34 PM
I know what you mean! The other day they said Jessica Alba lost her baby weight by cutting out butter and oil. Did she eat 30lbs worth of butter and oil while she was pregnant? I mean, they talk like it's so easy; like the general public is just sitting around eating crap (some people are, but those of us serious about losing weight have it down to a science). I wish I could cut something out and magically go to a size 2. But that's not possible.

But it's also frustrating b/c it's like, how much more do I need to cut out? I'm sure they are not telling the whole truth.

tater tash
08-06-2008, 01:36 PM
I think celebrities are told to make weightloss and being in shape seem easy. It's just another way to make sure that "regular" people become more fascinated by them. I was watching on VH1 "top beach bodies" or something like that and they were talking about Cameron Diaz and her fit bod. They quoted something she had once said that her secret to being in shape is sex. Then one of the personal trainers came on and basically said that there is no way to get a body like that without trying and just having sex. Cameron is on a strict diet and is constantly surfing and training blah blah blah.

RockinRobin did say it best though! "Like it or not, those celebs still have to do the hard work themselves. No one is doing the work for them. There still the ones resisting all that temptation and so on."

shelby897
08-06-2008, 01:39 PM
I don't think anyone was saying celebrities didn't work hard to stay thin and in shape, I think the post was about stereotyping that "all overweight people eat cake and doughnuts". It didn't seem to me to be a bunch of us attacking celebs, just stereotypes. I don't resent them, I realize they work hard at what they do, just like the rest of us. To me, even if I could afford a personal chef, trainer, etc. it means nothing unless I'm ready to lose the weight. I spent six days a week at the YMCA busting my butt for a year and lost no weight because I wasn't ready to make the healthy food choices that needed to go along with it.

BlueToBlue
08-06-2008, 01:51 PM
Re: Oprah - You're right, Robin, but I do think having a personal chef who plans and cooks every meal for you AND someone who does the grocery shopping AND a trainer who plans and supervises your workouts probably does make things a bit easier.

Just my two cents. :)

That's all true, but have you seen the food service that is provided on location at movie and TV sets? I have a friend that worked in craft service for films and the food provided on the sets includes lots of bad choices (the food is for crew, which doesn't have to maintain an unrealistic weight, as well as the actors). And then there are all the social events involving food and alcohol. They may have a chef that cooks for them, but celebs still eat out a lot, probably more than we do, and still have to struggle with making the same healthy choices we do. They still have to choose to pass up the doughnuts and chips, just like we have to choose to pass them up. It's not like they live in a bubble where those foods are available--when they are working, they probably have to look at them every day on the craft service cart. Knowing how hard it is to maintain my weight with my lifestyle (I rarely drink, rarely eat out, and no one brings loads of high fat/high sugar food to my office), I often wonder how celebs are able to maintain their weight. It must be a constant struggle.

Oprah has all those things and still struggles with her weight. Not only that, but Oprah, and all the other celebs, have to struggle with their weight publicly. Imagine if some tabloid ran pictures of you every time you gained a few lbs back. It's a lot of pressure, more than most of us deal with in our struggles to maintain our weight.

Then there is the fact that the standard they are held to is higher than for the rest of us. At 5' 4", 116 lbs, and around 22% body fat, I'm pretty thin, but if I were a celebrity, I'd have to lose at least another 5 lbs, possibly 10 lbs.

Besides, personal chefs may be out of reach for most of us, but you don't have to be a celebrity to have a personal trainer or a nutritionist--both those services are available to anyone at relatively reasonable prices (especially when you consider what you are getting for your $$). I've had a personal trainer for three years now and there are lots of other people at my gym that use the personal trainers, and none of us are celebrities or particularly wealthy.

PhotoChick
08-06-2008, 01:57 PM
I think the post was about stereotyping that "all overweight people eat cake and doughnuts".
Which is my point. So just because Charlize Theron says *she* gained weight by eating potato chips and doughnuts, why would that make someone jump to the HUGE conclusion that that statement means all fat people eat potato chips and doughnuts????

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cornellchick
08-06-2008, 01:58 PM
The job of the paparazzi is to glorify celebs and make the rest of us feel horrible. It's nothing more than an industry out to make money, not friends, and they've figured out what works. Anger and hatred are much more popular in today's media than they should be! Why else would reality shows like The Real World, ****'s Kitchen, American Idol, etc. (which all showcase people getting into god-awful arguments) be so popular? People enjoy being ticked off at each other. They like feeling resentful, jealous, and just plain malicious. The TV shows and magazines talking about how "easily" and quickly celebs lose weight are just giving their readers something else to feel angry about. And you know what... people buy it.

We're all beautiful chicks here, inside and out. We have determination, focus, and willpower. We can recognize what we should eat and how we should exercise; we can recognize that it's a way of life, not just a diet. We can let snide comments from acquaintances, family, and "friends" go; why let snide comments on TV or in a magazine bother us?

:sunny:

PhotoChick
08-06-2008, 02:14 PM
The job of the paparazzi is to glorify celebs and make the rest of us feel horrible.Horse hockey. Do you buy or read People Magazine? Or Entertainment Weekly? Do you watch the E network? Do you watch or read anything that reports on any celeb? Then you are creating the market for the paparazzi who are just doing the job they get paid for. The job of the paparazzi is to get the photos that sell to the millions of people who will buy them.

Blaming the paparazzi for the insatiable appetite for information on celebs that many people have is like blaming the pizza for making you fat, instead of taking responsibility for the fact that you are the one eating it.

Why else would reality shows like The Real World, ****'s Kitchen, American Idol, etc. (which all showcase people getting into god-awful arguments) be so popular?Because people watch them. If people didn't watch them the ratings would drop and the networks would find other shows that would bring in the ratings.

WE - the collective we who watch reality TV and buy celeb magazines and watch the celeb news networks - are the ones who "glorify celebs". Not the photographers, news shows, or whatever who are just pandering to the taste of the masses.

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JayEll
08-06-2008, 02:27 PM
I don't watch those shows. And, I don't care what anyone else does or says regarding weight loss or weight gain. Oprah, Charlize, who cares? Those are professionals--their lives have nothing to do with mine.

All I care about is what I'M doing about MY weight. That's the only thing I can do anything about.

I didn't sit around and eat potato chips and donuts to gain weight. BUT, I didn't say no to potato chips, and I didn't say no to donuts. :no: I said yes to many many foods without even thinking about the consequences. Now I have to deal with that.

People who reach stereotypic conclusions about what others do, based on TV shows and mags... Well... they probably need to get a life! :lol:

Jay

Horo
08-06-2008, 02:31 PM
You know, I have to admit I pretty much DID eat cake and cookies and potato chips all day long. LOL. See, I was perpetually "going on a diet starting Monday" (always the next Monday of course), so I was always in the mode of stuffing in the worst food I could think of because I was "giving it up soon". But the "giving it up" thing never actually happened, of course.

This was an excellent diet for a sumo wrestler, not so excellent for me.
I did this throughout the entire month of December 2007, when I got in to "I need to lose weight!" mode all out of the blue. My diet that month pretty much consisted of ice cream cake, ice cream, cake, lasagna, frozen macaroni and cheese entrees, and potato chips. Helped me put on the extra 10 lbs I had to lose come January when I finally got serious. *D'oh* :^:

KitgetsFit
08-06-2008, 02:38 PM
PhotoChick,

I probably didn't explain the show well enough to get my point across. It was a bunch of D-list celebrities/comedians making fat jokes while they counted down a list of celebrities to reach the best celebrity slim-down of all time. If you had seen the show, perhaps you would have felt similar to me that it was perpetuating stereotypes. All I was trying to get out was a little miff. I don't sit on my *** all day and eat cake. I would never want to trivialize how complex weight-loss can be for some people, as the show was doing.

s0nali
08-06-2008, 02:43 PM
I gained 40 lbs eating potato chips and cake.
I lost 20 lbs eating potato chips and cake.

It all comes down to numbers : calories in < calories out to lose weight. Many variables here, such as one tablespoon of oil or two, exercise amount, even metabolic rate is a variable that has to be accounted for. And no, we don't have the time or money or energy to really break it down to these numbers. All we do is estimate. But the better you estimate, the more you are able to control your weight.

I think talking "bad foods" and "good foods" is really very misleading. Nuts are high in calories but they are healthy - so are they bad or good? Is having a piece of cake on your child's birthday indulging in "bad food" ? I think that if you eat cake you have to compromise somewhere else, but I can't be so quick to judge my foods as bad or good.

But I don't care what Charlize says about how PEOPLE gain or lose weight. It's different for everyone, and I'm only competing against myself. There's tons of people out there, from celebrities to relatives, to discourage us and make us feel bad about ourselves, so it's our job to encourage ourselves and surround ourselves with people, reading material, tv shows, etc. that are encouraging, ignoring the rest.

mamaspank
08-06-2008, 02:44 PM
Kidgetsfit,

You are entitled to your opinion. I really don't think you meant it to cause issue for other people. I tend to agree with you. You really can't turn on your TV without being faced with all the pressures to be thin. I watch news programs everyday, and you really can't avoid it.

rockinrobin
08-06-2008, 02:54 PM
You really can't turn on your TV without being faced with all the pressures to be thin. I watch news programs everyday, and you really can't avoid it.

Ahh, you see the news programs are another story all together. They're usually saying how dangerous it is to be overweight for ones health. Which to me is a whole other matter entirely then "Hollywood".

Nevertheless, those news items used to freak me out. I couldn't turn on the radio, the TV or open a newspaper without hearing how unhealthy it is to be overweight and to lead a sedenatary lifestyle. It was worse when my kids were in the room. I felt so bad that they had to hear that and then worry about what their mom was doing to herself.

I'm telling you, those news items were always on my mind. I truly believe that is one of the reasons I finally woke up and did something about my weight. I think the more there are of them, the better.

Ija
08-06-2008, 04:16 PM
I don't think anyone was saying celebrities didn't work hard to stay thin and in shape, I think the post was about stereotyping that "all overweight people eat cake and doughnuts". It didn't seem to me to be a bunch of us attacking celebs, just stereotypes.

Thanks, Shelby, for stating it so eloquently.

::back to enjoying my sour grapes::

:lol:

sh3l5
08-06-2008, 04:22 PM
im sure as **** id look as good as jennifer aniston....
if i had a personal trainer, dietition and cook....
how cool would that be....
pretty expensive i imagine tho....
n at least we get the satisfaction of saying we did it all by ourselves!....