Support Groups - "Every-Day" 21-Day Challenge -- It's a hot deck for sure!!!

07-22-2008, 11:39 AM
Okay, everyone, as is the tradition, I start a new thread when I personally start a new challenge.

Below is a short explanation of how this challenge works so all you newcomers can take a look and decide if you're game or not! I hope you are! Hop aboard and enjoy the ride. We've got a great bunch of supportive people, so I hope you'll give us a try. A lot of people try for a while and then disappear.. I hope some of you will keep trying. There is NO shame in starting over. Remember, it's not over till you give up. And our motto around here is:

NEVER GIVE UP!!...Just start OVER!!


It works like this: you decide you'll do something for 21 days straight, every single day, so keep it doable. Then you count through 21.....and if you flub it, you MUST go back to zero and start over again. Everyone will be on different days. You can start anytime. At the beginning of the challenge you declare what level it is -- Level 1, 2, or 3. Level 1 means you feel it's a relatively easy challenge for you and means you only give yourself ONE pause day (see explanation of pause days below). Level 2 would give you two pause days and so on...
And taking NO pause days is what I'm going to call "aceing a challenge," as in "I'm aiming on aceing this one!" Yowzah!! :cb:

With a pause day you pause in your counting and continue the next day with the number you left off with. Pause days are NOT substitutes for days, i.e. Day 12 -- Day 13 -- Pause Day -- Day 14..... I suggest taking a pause day late in the game (better to go back to Day 1 early on) if you need a break or screw up when you're well into the challenge, meaning, when you're on Day 15 or something like that.

In any case, the trick is to keep going. The momentum builds and it's great incentive to stick to your guns, cause if you don't.........back to START you go. :( And the really great thing about this challenge is that you are forming new habits that will wipe out the old! AND, you get to do it with a great bunch of really supportive people to whom you are accountable! :grouphug:


In the interest of maintaining structure, a sense of solidarity and facilitating support I ask anyone who wishes to join this thread to please strive to follow the following guidelines while participating in this challenge and in posting.

1. Although this is a fabulous support group, the focus is to be on your CHALLENGE/S and/or other people's challenge/s AND weight loss, whether your challenge is about it or not. Please keep the challenge a priority, although we welcome chattiness! :lol: This means tell us what day you're on when you post and it's a good idea to make regular mention of just what your challenge is. This an action-based thread. Our members are ON a challenge, RESTARTING a challenge, or just in between and looking to start up again REAL SOON. ;) We also welcome posts from admirers, encouragers, and old friends!

2. Please refrain from posting food logs or recipes, except where you are really looking for help and advice on your eating. If journaling is your challenge, please keep the journaling off the thread and in a notebook or blog and just tell us if you've done what you set out to do. We have ALL types of dieters here, low-carb, high-carb, low-fat, high-fat, vegetarians, meat-lovers...please use simple mentions if you have something you want to share and then links and/or private messages to do so.

3. Please do NOT go into glowing accounts of any slipups, food indulgences or binges, what we here call "food porn." Simple mentions are fine, but use of smilies :censored: :tape: etc. as substitutes where possible is encouraged.

4. Please keep this a secular thread. Of course, passing references to your beliefs, a bit of introduction about your beliefs, brief faith-related words of encouragement are fine. :angel:

5. Please show support, support, support! This is key. :grouphug: You can waffle on about yourself but please, at least occasionally,come up and look around at others and what they are doing and MENTION it with words of encouragement and/or praise or sympathy. We understand "busy," poor computer connections, and bouts of self-pity and life problems where the focus turns to "me" and dealing with those problems, but these should be temporary, not a habit! ('cept in the computer case.)

In conclusion, let me say, the above are just that, GUIDELINES. Please realize that these guidelines have been added in an attempt to keep this a supportive and beneficial thread, at the LEAST, to those who need it MOST, those for whom weight loss is the hardest and, more often than not, the most crucial as well as for those who still, perhaps despite great success, know all too well that the road they walk will always be a slippery one. :^:

The guidelines are also meant to cultivate an atmosphere of consideration and concern for ALL, not individually, but AS A GROUP.

Well, all's said. Please join us!! :wave:

07-22-2008, 11:41 AM
Hey all! :wave: Hope you all find your way over!!! Let's start out with new resolve!!


Apple Blossom
07-22-2008, 02:38 PM
Hooray for RED!!!! You did it! Keep it up!:cheer2::cheer3:
Still not off the ground here. I've been really lazy lately. Badness.:nono:
New thread, fresh start.

07-22-2008, 07:48 PM
Hurray for the new thread, and Red's survival of 21 days - you rock :cb: :cheer: :cb:

I took a pause on the eating challenge today. Might have to on the workout, if I don't find my running partner - will update later. I am stressing, and PMSing, and I let that be an excuse for eating badly. Very badly. When i ate that way before, it used to taste good, and feel good. . . at least until much later when the guilt and acid reflux kicked in. Now, I get maybe 5-10 minutes of it tasting good, then I just feel yucky. I did throw about 1/5 of the bad lunch out.

so, no lame excuses - back to healthy eating!

Have a good night all :wave:

07-22-2008, 08:26 PM
Heh there, Apple, jolly. Glad you found the new thread. I am continuing with my challenge, will have a tally for you soon. And, I am reverting back to the actual day without alcohol (straight!) and then if I add it in, how many days with with how many days without. But, that's not a challenge for here. I just want to continue it. I LIKE the streak, and that goes for sugar and cigarettes as well. The momentum is totally different than when you allow yourself pauses. You have this great feeling of, oh, I just can't fall off the wagon now and waste ALL those days.
Still, the pauses serve their purpose.
I will come up with a new challenge as well.
I am ticked again at the scale, up as usual, when I am expecting a loss. I mean, come on!!!!, how can I not be eating sugar nor drinking and NOT see a loss. And my clothes are NOT looser. My fingers are swollen as well because yesterday I could barely get my rings on. What goes?!?! It's not PMS. Strange, very strange. What planet do I come from??!?!? :?:

07-22-2008, 09:33 PM
Hi All~Can I join this challenge? I read and understand the guide lines and rules you have posted for this group. If I can join I challenge myself to do 21 straight days of exercise. An Ab work out every day with either cardio or weight training on alternate days. This would be level 2. A challenging challenge. Thanks Pat

07-23-2008, 08:12 AM
Hey Red - good for you on completing your 21 days!!! WTG!

1) Eat at least 3 meals a day (grazing doesn't count): level 1
2) Find at least 5 minutes a day for ME time: level 3
3) Say the serenity prayer: level 1

here's some explanations about these 3:
1) Recently - due to the teaching (which ends tomorrow - WOOHOO!!!) I've screwed up all of me meals and eating habits.
2) Yes, 5 minutes is a lot sometimes...
3) I think that I need to focus more on the things I can change, because I have a lot,lot,lot of things that I can't....

Jolly - good for throwing out that nasty food! I still battle with not finishing everything on my plate. I went out to dinner last night, and I was so hard for me to see all the unfinished food-! But I didn't eat it anyway!

Apple - let's hear your new challenges! New thread, new start!

Pat - welcome! Good luck on your challenges.

07-23-2008, 09:54 AM
Hi all. Ok, just continuing on with my challenges for a while longer, to my birthday on all but alcohol, which I will probably allow some Aug. 2. Just want to go straight through till my birthday on the others and then some no doubt. jolly, Apple, thanks!!! :love:

No alcohol 26 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 23 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 23 days straight
No processed foods 23 days straight

Dixie -- Of course you can join! Welcome!! :welcome2:

miriam -- Good to see you! Thanks for the congrats! Best of luck on your new challenges and glad to hear the teaching is OVER!! :dance:

07-23-2008, 01:24 PM
Good morning and hello to all!!

RED! Thank you for still having this challenge thread! I've been needing to get myself back on track for some time now and this is exactly what I need to get me going.

I used to participate in this thread a couple years back (Red, has it really been that long???)

I'm needing to work on two things. Really simple things but I've been making it seem harder than it really is!

My challenges:

Water intake. (level 1)
Walking/jogging. (level 2)

A level one and two, but sure would like to ace them both!

These are the two main things I STRUGGLE with!! So, to be able to join you all will be great. I already recognize a couple of you here, and I'm looking forward to getting to know the rest of you.

Happy Challenges everyone!!

07-23-2008, 03:36 PM
Hey Red -

Teaching ain't over YET. Still have tomorrow and preparation FOR tomorrow. Grr :) 4 more days and you have abstinence and you can talk at an AA meeting, LOL

Day 0: 3 meals
Day 1: 5 ME-minutes
Day 1: serenity

welcome marti and good luck on your challenges

07-23-2008, 07:26 PM
Marti~Miriam~Good to see you here. I need to get my rear up and get going or I will be shame faced!! Pat

07-23-2008, 09:55 PM
Back and in a better mood. Level 2 day one I did 25 upper abs and 25 lower ab crunches. I did 1 hr 20 mins cardio plus 42 wall push ups.

How is everyone doing on their challenges? Pat

Shy Moment
07-24-2008, 01:12 AM
Just wanted to stop in and say hello. Been so busy around here with company. Takes a lot to keep a house clean with 9 people in it and takes a whole lot of cooking to feed everyone lol. Have our week at the camp grounds coming up and a few little things we want to do with everyone while they are here. Hope everyone is doing well.


Same old same old here. I am sticking with my normal eating and exercise but I haven't been keeping track of days so I will officially start a new challenge when the 5 extra people in my house leave lol.

07-24-2008, 07:18 AM
Welcome Marti and Dixie.

I had a much better day yesterday. This morning is off to a rough start. I overslept, so am not hitting the gym. I have a run tonight, but I was still supposed to do a double workout today :( Can this day's workouts be saved :?:

I think I will go do core, and some upper body weights. Then, after the run and dinner tonight, if I can get in some biking, I will be good. . .

Have a great day all :wave:

07-24-2008, 01:08 PM
Halloo everyone!

It's going to take me a little bit to get all your names. But thank you for the welcome.

Day one (yesterday) was a success! Got in my water and my walk. Water was easier than I anticipated. The walk....that was something I was not wanting to do, but did it anyway.

So pretty pleased. Just need to continue on and get in the habit of it all and by the end of the 21 days....will feel stronger and more in control. That's my hopes anyway.

Good luck to all and have a marvelous day!

07-24-2008, 03:27 PM
Just a flyby:

Day 1: 3 meals
Day 2: 5 me-minutes (I watched the biggest loser on my bed with my laptop, yea!)
Day 2: serenity prayer

Long time no speak, Rennie! How much longer with the extra people in your house??

07-24-2008, 07:05 PM
Hi all. Quick stop here. Really bummed as far as the weight loss goes. Yes, I know that was not the original intention of my challenge, but you would think that with me not having any sugar or alcohol calories, the weight would be dropping off. Then again, I wasn't consuming THAT much. If I were, then wow, I was in trouble.... :lol: Still, I do so wish the weight would come off. I guess it's a slower process than I was expecting....sigh. Will start a new challenge very soon....just continuing with the count for now.

No alcohol 27 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 24 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 24 days straight
No processed foods 24 days straight

Hi Shy, miriam, jolly, Dixie! Marti, good to see you!!! :wave:

07-25-2008, 05:08 AM
Heh all. I decided I'd take a hard, cold look at the numbers...
So, saying I were to save 500 calories every day, that means it would take 2 weeks to lose 1 kg of fat (2.2 lbs). And that means that it would take 2.5 days to lose 200 grams of fat, which is the smallest increment on my scale.
Soooo.....I have to be patient. It's probably pretty easy to NOT save 500 calories a day, since I'm not counting calories. I just know though that over the week, with 2 or 3 days on the town and eating junk food and sweets, I was surely getting a good 500 calories more a day into me...tough though that was! :lol3: Ok, ok, I'll hold my horses...I am definitely eating more when I go to bars because there is no brew to keep me happy. :^:

07-25-2008, 10:31 AM
Hi Everyone~Yesterday was day 2 level 2. I did 33 min walk/jog dvd for cardio. I did 25 upper ab and 25 lower ab crunches and 24 oblique crunches for my ab workout challenge. I did 15 minues arm and back weight training. I was tired and sluggish all day. I really had to talk myself into the weight training. I did it and I am glad I did.

07-25-2008, 06:21 PM
No alcohol 28 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 25 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 25 days straight
No processed foods 25 days straight

Dixie, great work! :bravo:

Shy Moment
07-25-2008, 09:02 PM
WOW you are doing terrific.

Good for you. There are times I say a million times I don't have time, I don't feel like it, I can do it tomorrow. I have NEVER said oh I wish I hadn't exercised lol.

You need more me time. They are leaving the 5th.

You take each day one day at a time. The first time you complete a 21 day challenge you feel FANTASTIC. You are so proud of yourself. Well, at least that is how I felt my first challenge. Even now, many many 21 day challenges later. I am proud of my accomplishments each and every time I complete a challenge.

Isn't it a pain when life just gets in our way. It is pretty fun around here the two three year olds have decided they just have to exercise with me. I am not sure if I spent more time exercising or more time trying not to trip over the kids lol.

07-25-2008, 11:14 PM
Hi all. Just doing a quick fly by to pout :( I am going to have to restart, again, soon. I could blame PMS, but I have to stop making excuses. Grrrrrr. But, I am dealing with that little voice that is reminding me of all the times I tried and failed, and telling me that getting below 200 is never going to happen, so I might as well eat poorly and make sure of it.

And, to top it all off, we got our first day reading assignments for school. Feeling inadequate here:fr:

Ah well. Tomorrow is another day, yes? :wave: and hope all are having a good day/weekend.

07-26-2008, 06:14 AM
Hi people. Just slogging (this words fits my feeling well...) through the day here. It's still only 6 p.m. but I am DETERMINED to notch another day on my continuing mega challenge. I am craving things though...sugar specifically. Early stage pms I guess and it's not pleasant. But I will prevail. I am such a sugarholic that one itty bitty thing will set me off and I will become like a huge snowball, no, a snow monster crashing down the mountain. Can you hear it? Like distant thunder...that's me on a sugar binge. :^:
Ok, I hope that I've made you all feel better, because, although I'm looking real WOW like here, I am not doing this easily. Came out of the subway today and was actually turning around to eye a candy machine, specifically a certain candy bar I could see inside. Oops...near food porn. Sorry. Yeah, so, see that I am becoming slightly crazed. I had dreams of eating or drinking something, or maybe it was smoking. I can't remember now, but I dreamt that I gave in, all while feeling very guilty.
Anyhow, I see myself starting to link this TOO much to my looks, skin, weight loss. That has GOT to stop, because if I start looking, looking, looking for results that set me swooning, what happens when I don't see those results?!?!? You guessed it? Time for the count!! And I don't mean's more like 10. Powers that be, give me strength!!!!


jolly -- Oh, jolly, you poor thing. Sounds like we're in a similar boat. About that little voice...well, you get yourself a bigger voice, a louder voice...oh, wait!...I'll send you mine now...the one I use (used to use) to call for another pint in a very crowded pub. And that voice is going to drown out that little snitch of a whiny voice telling you about your trials and tribulations that "failed." :?: Huh?!?! Failed, my arse! Who failed? :shrug: The jolly that's been running? The jolly that's been making GOOD choices right and left? The jolly that's been going to the gym and working out despite, well, LIFE? Which jolly? You tell me. Because if those jollys exist then the other ones do NOT count! You get it?

Shy -- How goes it? Thanks for the "WOW." Yes, and not yes, I am struggling, but doing it. Thanks! :love: Sounds like you have your hands full. Hope to see you back soon. :yes:

miriam -- I agree with Shy. You need a LOT more me time. Grab it! from somewhere!

Marti -- You still with us? How's it going? Look at that, we both started here the same time, July 2003. Yeah, it feels like five years, no sweat, well, not enough obviously.... ;)

Where are you Apple? Fish, what happened to ya? :dunno:

07-26-2008, 01:29 PM
Hi All~Yesterday was a complete crash and burn for me. I did not exercise at all, zip, zilch, zero. I was fighting all kinds of feelings and emotions. They bit me. I ate a cream filled doughnut like it was a steak. Not looking back, I still have my eyes on the slinky black dress. I will start over with day one. I will have to re-think my challenge goals. I will begin again this afternoon/evening. I need to adjust a few mental screws too. I will post later with the new goals.

Every one keep up the good work and have a great day. Catch ya all later. Pat

07-26-2008, 03:44 PM
Day 3: 3 meals
Day 4: 5 minutes - ME time
Day 4: Serenity prayer

Listen - 5 minutes is the MINIMUM - if I'm lucky, I'll scratch out some more..

Had a long nap today - which is GREAT, but then I go to sleep too late and start the day off cranky tomorrow. Never win, eh?

Pat - good for you, don't look back, pick yourself up, dust off, and plow on!

Red - I'm also into instant results - and I can't figure out why if the numbers on the scale are going down and the inches are too - why can't I ft into smaller clother? Grr. And stay determined - you can make it till your birthday! How old will you be tunring?

jolly - Do you think you've bitten off more than you can chew? Aw heck - mind the pun!

Rennie - you are so close to you goal! Wowzers! And LOL with exercising with kids - I tried doing Zumba one day with my toddler at home, and he was just too funny! Oh well - laughing burns calories too! :)

Apple Blossom
07-26-2008, 03:52 PM
I'm done with my little binge, I hope. PMS got me. I am ready to start again. I'm really sick of this, I keep gaining gaining gaining. I have some shopping to do tomorrow, and I'm going to buy a new scale. I know numbers aren't supposed to be important, but the daily discouragement, or maybe a small change for the better:goodscale will help.
My challenges? Hmmm.
No Beer. 2 pauses allowed
30 min exercise, 2 pauses allowes
No "treats" (desserts, sweets, whatever, I'll know when I'm reaching for a no-no) 2 pauses allowed. Oh, celebrating my nephews b-day tomorrow, so that might wait until Monday.
Hello to the newbies, and hello to Red, Jolly, Shy, Miriam, Fish if you're out there.
Ughh, my kids are going to drive me insane today. I really want to head out to the beach, but the traffic is supposed to be bad today because of a drag race. wish me luck getting through today.:bomb:

07-26-2008, 05:52 PM
No alcohol 29 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 26 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 26 days straight
No processed foods 26 days straight

07-26-2008, 06:04 PM
Hi Everyone~I have been doing a lot of thinking and soul searching. I am/was overwhelmed by the whole idea of weight training. So much so I defeated myself before I really got going on it. I went back and re-read my first attempt at this challenge. I decided to change a few things.

Here is what I have come up with: I challenge myself to do a 16 minute weight training workout 6 days a week~I day off weight training. On that day off I will do one of these my pick yoga, stretching workout, or pilates. Everyday do at least 30 minutes of cardio. This is a level 2 challenge-that gives me 2 pause days. So if I feel myself overwhelmed I know I can pick my pause days and recoup myself. And know it is okay to do so.

The workout looks like this Day 1: back, ab, leg-hip, butt Day 2: arms, chest, shoulder~for 6 days~1 day off the weights to be filled with yoga, stretching, or pilates. I think with this structure I will be much better off. The book suggests starting on Mondays. I might go ahead and start this evening. If I put it off too long I may not start at all.

Day 1 Level 2~1 hour stepping workout. Pat

07-26-2008, 10:27 PM
Hi Apple - hope you got through the day. Miriam - bad pun :lol: Red - thank you. I really needed the perception check. Dixie - we've all been there. . . Actually, it seems like most of us are there right now. Darn PMS:mad:

Well, I will be restarting my challenges in here somewhere. I just don't know when, where, how. I did do my 8 mile run today. I only had to take 2 walk breaks, and one of those was because I fell on my butt in the road around mile 2.5. Grace is not my middle name. Luckily I caught myself pretty much with my hands, and no lasting damage.

I am off to veg a bit before bed. I have to get up early to work out before we go to the Renaissance Faire tomorrow. Later :wave:

Shy Moment
07-27-2008, 12:03 AM
I am less worried with the scale these days than I am about how my clothes fit and how I am looking. The scale will go down in its own good time. Eating right and exercise has got me where I am and where I am going. The weight is now coming off very slowly. It is so much more important to me these days that I am going down down down in sizes. Now am wearing a 10 thats pretty terrific for me since I started in a size 20 lol. I am seeing definition in my abs and thighs, all over really. Just wish I would get my chest down to where it use to be.

07-27-2008, 01:28 AM
Size 10 - good for you! I started out at a 16/18, and now I'm a 14/16... I'm impatient to see more changes though. And with regards to my chest - that's the only part of me I wish I wasn't losing! Stated out at a good C, now I'm really a B, and shrinking, ugh.

07-27-2008, 04:27 PM
Hello girls. (any guys in here?)

Been really busy lately so not much time to pop online.

Water still chugging down 60-80oz a day.
Walking is still going good too!

4/21 so far!!

Red--It's been 5yrs since we've joined?? Wow! Time sure flys. Your challenges sound challenging. I don't think I could do it so I commend you for doing a great job so far!! And if I remember correctly, you always succeed. You do such a great job. Keep at it, even during those "blue" times.

Rennie--I remember completing a few challenges back a few years and it was a great feeling. So far so good here. Hoping that I'll make it! I totally agree with you about sizes. If you're working out and toning up, the scale may never budge, but the clothes are actually fitting. Something good is going on. Fabulous job on wearing 10's!

Jolly--The little voices.......they're just evil! You WILL get below 200 and then some! Don't even worry for a minute that you won't. An 8 mile run! That's wonderful! My walks consist of 2.5 miles in half an hour. I can't even begin to image running 8. You're doing fabulous!

Pat--You're also doing great. You've got yourself set up with a great little workout system. You're going to do fine, just keep at it and take one day at a time. If it's too much, you'll know. And you can always revamp it. That's the beauty of it all. There is no "set" way to do things. Keep up the great work!

Miriam--I love the "me" time! With busy schedules everyone has, "me" time is an absolute must! Keep up the great work and if at all possible.....squeeze in more than 5 minutes for yourself. Maybe treat it as a "job" you have to go to and then leave for half an hour. (I know, easier said than done) Good luck!

Apple--You have a tough challenge too! I'm not very good at the no "treats". For some reason I have to "reward" myself. So bad. I think I may have to take up that challenge myself! And soon! Good luck!

I hope I haven't missed anyone. I don't always get a chance to post everyday, but I will try to catch up once I do get on.

Good luck to you all and chat with you soon.

07-27-2008, 04:42 PM
Hi All,

Good for you Marti -- remembering everyone :)

I messed up - starting over for 3 meals. I still see what an emotional eater I am - DH< read DARN HUSBAND - or any other expletive you'd like to substitute..> ticked me off today and took away my appetite, so no 3 meals. Should I take a puase so early? Maybe better to just start over.

now is my ME-time, not much of it, and too irritable to enjoy anything anyway. I did enjoy Weird Al's song "Smells like Nirvana" though, made me lough out loud - literally.

Serenity - said the words, but today not doing it at all for me. Ugh. What a rotten day.

07-27-2008, 07:52 PM
Yesterday was really tough, craving sugar. Had some yogurt with straight 100% fruit jam mixed in. That's not a challenge breach but it isn't what I'd like to do normally as the jam is very sweet and concentrated and surely sets my blood sugar rocketing. Still, it'll have to do. Also had some sweet fruit. Need more watermelon! I will get through. The no alcohol is an easy one, since I never really liked the stuff. It's when people at work are calling to go out after a stressful day (and that's ANY day at the office :( ) that the seductive call of the pub is at its most tempting.
Well, the count is a month! 30 days in the hole! I made it!!!!! :dance: Never thought I could really. It's good to know I can.

No alcohol 30 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 27 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 27 days straight
No processed foods 27 days straight

miriam -- Hmmm. Sounds like you had a tough day. So sorry to hear that. I am amazed at people whose appetites suffer. I have to be really sick or really depressed to not have an appetite. I hope that that is not the case for you. As for our challenge, maybe you should redefine what a meal is. You said this challenge was a Level 1, meaning only one pause day. I would start over. Course, we would surely all look away if you changed the level of your challenge partway through. ;)

marti -- Hi there. No, no guys in here, not that I know of anyhow, unless there's someone in disguise. Glad to hear you're chugging and walking. Yeah, my challenges are challenging. And, no, I don't "always succeed," that is, if you mean that in the sense that I make 21 each time. I have had many, many restarts and "unchallenged" times. Seeing as I already made 21 on all the above, the other challenge is an extracurricular, saying I'll go through to my birthday. I have to come up with another to get with the program. The blues are dragging me down. Well, more the bloat from pms. It's the sugar cravings that are bad AND eating. But, since eating is not on a challenge, I am indulging myself, just not with sugar. I am also doing vegetable juice, which was many earlier challenges. You never ever see red beets over here and I heard that they are great blood cleansers. I finally found some on the Net and had them shipped from the north. Put them in with carrot juice. They get me itching, which I hear is a common reaction because the juice is so potent, but I suppose it means something is happening. When I first started doing juice my eyes used to get really bloodshot with all the junk being stirred up in my blood. Now, I don't get that. Must be cleaner! Ok, sorry for the rambling.

Shy -- I wish I could be more like you, not worrying about the scale but just checking out my progress with clothes. I am highly skilled at denial tactics and today's fabrics, stretchy jeans etc. are some of biggest allies...yeah, talk about fair-weather friends, eh? Also, I do need the numbers to come down at some time! But, yes, of far more importance in the day-to-day is how our bodies look and feel. Even today, I am very bloated and the fat around my midsection (notice I don't use the obscure term "waist!" :lol3: ) is really jellylike. That's from the pms water retention so I know what's going on. Still, it means I will look worse and my clothes will be tighter YET the scale is the same as yesterday. So, it just goes to show, numbers are pretty useless except for the longterm changes. That's great that you are seeing definition. Legs have to have a bodyfat under 18 percent to show definition so you are doing well!

jolly -- I'm glad I could be of help. Glad to hear too that you weren't injured. You hang in there, ok? You are doing SO well and I am really, really proud of you. You have made amazing progress in the last some months. Give yourself a mega-pat on the back! :dancer:

Dixie -- Your exercise challenge sounds hardcore! Good luck. You are putting me to shame! :yes:

Apple -- Ok, glad to hear the binge is over. Did you find a scale? I have a digital one that reads in increments of 200 grams, which is about 7 ounces, so it's moderately sensitive to change (that's almost half a pound though, I was thinking it was less....) and I can see it easily! You've picked some hard challenges, so best of luck! :goodluck:

07-28-2008, 12:57 AM
Hi Everyone. Red I could never put you to shame.You got it going on. I am very proud of you, you have accomplished so much. You rock.

Miriam~Sorry to hear that you and Hubby had a rough time.

Marti~Thank you! I needed to hear it. It really helps.

Day 2 level 2: I did 1 hour of stepping +30 upper + 30 lower +20 each side oblique crunches + 50 wall push ups. Tomorrow I want to start the weight training. Tomorrow is going to be a busy day. I really need to plan my timing and my food. Or I will be snagged up again! Pat

Shy Moment
07-28-2008, 02:36 AM
You are doing terrific. You have a great deal of self control. You should be so proud of yourself. My legs are really defined and so are my biceps. You can see definition in my abs. I am still working on that back of the arm problem ( bat wings ) lol. I am also working on that very upper inner and outer thigh. My abs have a long way to go but I am sure all of this will come together with exercise and getting this extra weight off.

Those are old 10's not these new 10's that are really 12's or 14's lol. I don't wear stretch anymore because there is just to much give to let me gain a few pounds. I still do a weigh in every two weeks but I don't even bother to think about it other than that. It isn't that the scale isn't important. It is just that, for me, to worry about how much I weigh all the time is counter productive. These last 20 pounds might take awhile to come off. As long as I am going down down down in size I know the weight will also come off sooner or later.

I am going through the same thing right now. I can be as much as 8 pounds up the first couple days of my DOT. I need that weigh in every 2 weeks to keep myself accountable. As I have started to get this darn weight under control I am wearing nothing that doesn't fit exactly how it should and no no no stretchy material. That is another way I keep myself accountable. I use fit day every single day. I know that I have to stay within some general ranges for myself or I am not going to be heading in the direction I want to go.

I started out a 42 D I am now a 38 D. The darn things aren't going away lol. I would love to be back to a 34 B. It took me a long long time to go down the first pant size. I bet it was 25 pounds before the tight size 18 st etch jeans were way to big to wear and then another 31 pounds to get to where I am now. Doesn't make sense does it. 25 pounds to go down one size and then 33 pounds to go down 3 sizes lol. I know I have to be around 115 to 120 to wear a size 5 ( not these new size 5 that are really at least a 7 or an 8). I have 4 pairs of pants I wore when I was between 115 and 120 those are my goal. They are a size 5 and one pair of them is at least 20 years old lol. I wore those pants after I had each of my children. I wore those pants until a few years ago when I put on all this weight. Doesn't matter what I weigh. It matters that those pants fit the way they should fit and I sure don't mean tight lol. 120 was a goal. It was something to look forward to. All I really care is that I am in shape and healthy. I want to look nice in those pants I still have :) When I hit 120 I might say ok I look good and am happy with this weight and how I look and feel. I may find I still need to lose a few pounds. Who knows.

07-28-2008, 04:41 AM
Help!!! I am in HUGE danger of pigging out on sugar, getting drunk whatever. I really want out of this job but don't know what to do.... I'd have to laugh at the whole absurdity if it weren't all so pathetic. I really am about to throw in the towel....... :stress:

07-28-2008, 12:01 PM
Red~Please hold on, hang in there!! Don't through away what you have worked and sweated so hard to accomplish. We are all here for you. Let us support you during this time. You are not alone!! We are here for you. ((((((H U G S)))))) from me to you. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Please post and let us know how you are. NO MATTER WHAT Please post so we can help. Pat

07-28-2008, 12:43 PM
Just a quick pop in for now....

Red.....:hug::hug: Do pop in a "talk" to us, hopefully that will help ease things a bit to get it out by talking.
You'll be in my thoughts today!!

Hello to the rest of ya, will catch up later!

07-28-2008, 05:58 PM
I made it through. It wasn't pretty. I ate a lot, but stuck to the challenges. It was a very lousy day, with things just not going my way. A lot of tears, but I allowed myself them.
It was not without accomplishment either. I did stay home from work. I really needed the time away from that ****-hole.
Got my cat to the vet, got me to the gym, worked abs a bit differently and today they are hurting. Calls to friends were deadend and made me feel more lost than ever when asking about advice. But, at least I made them and tonight I will meet some woman who I am hoping can help me get started in the right direction. I need to commit, either to quitting, to starting a new project at work (which I am resisting with hurt pride and humiliation) or to doing both and getting the h@ll out of there (work) once and for all! I am disgusting myself with my seeming lack of options. That just is not tolerable!! :mad:
So, here is the tally. I am going to start a new challenge today and put the below three in a new challenge as well so I can allow some pauses. I will continue to log the total tally though. It makes me feel like I've accomplished something.

Keep a food and exercise journal. No pauses allowed!
New COUNT for below four:
No booze 3 pauses (allowing the pauses for my birthday and environs...)
No sugar 1 pause
No cigs No pauses
No processed foods 1 pause

No alcohol 31 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 28 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 28 days straight
No processed foods 28 days straight

Dixie -- Thank you so much for your support. I wrote my SOS message at 5 p.m. here, then somehow got through the rest of the day, thanks to some cries, some walking and watching a good drama that I'd taped off TV. It was about a baseball team and how they hung in there despite LOTS of hardships. It was a series on TV and though terribly melodramatic was JUST what I needed. I also made vegetable juice though I didn't feel like it and had eaten so much my stomach was like a barrel. I drank an entire LITER of juice and it didn't even taste good. Anyhow, I saw your message this morning when I got up at 4:30. Yours and Marti's had come in around midnight here so I was sleeping. Thank you though. It really helps to feel someone cares. :hug:

Marti -- Thank you too! :love: You can read the drama above. I feel a slight bit of resolve today. pms coupled with the crap happening at work and my usual feelings of helplessness are what brought this on. Also, not having my usual pacifiers probably made it all feel worse. BUT, those pacifiers do nothing but dull my senses. They do NOTHING to change the situation. Yeah, I feel gross still. My stomach is like a waterbed and the scale is up, but I didn't give in and, thanks to feeling really, really, really, sick of the whole thing, am ready to get in there and fight!!! GROWWWWWWLLLLL!

07-28-2008, 08:04 PM
Wow, that all said before, I am in a horrible state! Stayed home from the stable, which was probably NOT a good idea as my horse always has a calming/stabilizing effect on me. Now, I still can't make it out the door and to the gym because I am feeling SOOOO irritated it's not funny. I usually don't get pms this bad. I suppose it's because I feel so bad even without pms now. God, it's really bad. Have been yelling at my cat. My skin is really bad, itching, raw and of course my weight is up and I am horribly bloated. My meeting for tonight is probably cancelled, other email I sent out comes back saying the address has been changed...if I can make it through today without killing someone I will be in good shape. :tantrum:

07-28-2008, 11:00 PM
Hang on Red. I'll throw you a line, and then together we can toss part of it back to the wagon to get hauled back on.

I am right there with you. I swear, if anyone would have looked at me wrong today, I would have ripped off their arm and beat them to death with it. I had one of my staff put in her notice because she was burned out with the 24/7 responsibility. I can't blame her. And now I sit here and wonder how the heck I can manage work and school.

I also see how people can gain weight after stomach surgery. Little by little, you stop hurting after eating, and stretch back to what you used to do. I have been making little bad choices here and there. and today made some big bad choices. Up until now, when I ate bad, I physically felt bad. Today? Not so much.

I can not do this - this yoyo crap. This self medicating. It is not ok. i don't want to live like this. Why can't I just say "Hey, it sucks my staff is leaving. It is going to make life more hectic, so who can I ask for what help in the short term and what can I do to send her off with a bang?" instead of "Hey, I think I need to eat everything that isn't nailed down!" Grrrrrrrr. What did I accomplish except gaining weight back and spending money I could have used on other things?

I am not going to do this again. I do not choose to live that way. I choose to be healthy, and not hide behind food and weight, even if that means dealing with life's chaos.

Hey Red, should we try Primal Scream Therapy? Scream with me on 3. 1 - 2 - . . .

everyone else :wave:

Shy Moment
07-29-2008, 12:25 AM
You hold on. You are so good at getting thru things. I find your strength very inspiring.

Isn't that how all of us are. We make one little bad choice and then another. We find you have put on a few pounds or allowed our selfs to do this or that and we know it isn't good for us. All we can do is keep trying. It isn't failure to mess up. We fail when we quit trying.

07-29-2008, 01:19 AM
Shy, jolly! Thanks!! I made it in to work. No one is dead or injured. I also got to the took a lot of pauses to walk there (50 min). But I got there and did easy weights and talked to a few people. Surprisingly, they were down and said I should come every day because they would feel better. Of course, that made ME feel better! But, really, I had NO power. It was bizarre. But I did it and somewhere along the way a bit of the fog started to lift.
Then into the dreaded office and all is quiet for now....sigh.
Thanks for having faith in me! I kept thinking of that TV show last night. Glad I taped it because I am going to use it to watch again and again in times of weakness....

Oh, and jolly, the primal scream therapy sounds GOOD!! I want some!! Speaking of Primal Scream, they were just here for the Fuji Rock Festival over the weekend. And now at work I see one of the guys who went, looking very rough...he said it was great.

07-29-2008, 08:05 AM
I am glad you made it to work REd, without any bloodshed. And for getting to the gym. You go girl!

Thanks Shy. I know you are right.

I am going to try and get back on the calorie counting horse today. I have decided to take a pause on my soda challenge. If I need to "give in" and "be bad" I would much rather it were on a diet, caffeine free soda, then :censored: You know what i mean.

It is going to be rough though. School and the 1/2 marathon are getting closer. Things are getting a little nuts again at work - things rumbling. And with my issues, I always worry what it means for me. am I next. Am I doing good enough.

Here's to a great day :wave:

07-29-2008, 01:48 PM
A quick check in this morning.

Yesterday was day 5. Did great on both. Although, my walk was during my lunch break at work and was hotter than all get out!!

With the temps as high as they are, water intake has been much easier than usual. Hoping to keep it up.

Gotta get going to work, will pop in later!


07-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Ok, that day is over. It was pretty awful. My evening meeting was a no show. SO frustrating. I changed a lot around to meet that person. However, getting home early means I got home before a massive thunderstorm hit that dumped rain on Tokyo and shut down the central loop line for 90 minutes. I was watching the lightning in the distance walking home and it was impressive! Counting the seconds in between the claps and hoping I could make it home before it hit. I did. My cats were jumping from the noise. Only saw the damage on TV this morning.
Anyhow...the rain cooled things off and I could sleep! Heavenly.
On the challenge front, all is well.
On the weight loss front, I am like a water balloon. Must be retaining water from the storm I am so bloated. HOWEVER, now I could be hallucinating as some sort of defense mechanism or self-preservation tactic so as not to lose my mind BUT, in the mirror I noticed (above the roll of fat lower down) what appeared to be the beginnings of a WAIST!!! Don't know if that is possible. I didn't think my body had any indents anywhere, but maybe, just maybe.... :^:
At the gym I have been doing some different ab exercise. I was hurting yesterday! Let's just hope something is moving around in there.

NEW CHALLENGE(s) Started July 29
Keep a food and exercise journal. No pauses allowed! Day 1 completed. -- this was not pretty today. I ate a LOT. It was my only way of dealing with what felt like a horrible weight (NO pun intended) on me that I couldn't shake.... :(

New COUNT for below four:
No booze 3 pauses (allowing the pauses for my birthday and environs...) Day 1 completed 3 pauses left
No sugar 1 pause Day 1 completed 1 pause left
No cigs No pauses Day 1 completed
No processed foods 1 pause Day 1 completed 1 pause left

No alcohol 32 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 29 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 29 days straight
No processed foods 29 days straight


jolly -- Thanks and good luck on the calorie counting. When you've cleaned up your diet, and it sounds like you have, I think that's the only way to keep the weight loss going. It's something I'm going to have to learn...thus the food journal in preparation.

Marti -- Good to hear all is well. :yes:

Apple Blossom
07-29-2008, 06:52 PM
I've been on a brief MIA because I'm still not out of the starting gate. Well, I DID get Day one of no beer out of the way.
No Beer, Day 1, 2 pauses left.
30 min exercise, Day 0, 2 pauses left.
No treats.... well, I'm thinking of eliminating that one....but I need to have some sort of food challenge or I'm never going to lose any weight. Have to keep thinking about that one.
Red, I hope things get better for you, day by day. I am so proud of you for sticking to it even though you have a lot of stress going on.
Jolly!!! 8 Miles!! Way to go! I wish I had been sticking to my training program, I'd by getting up in the mileage too. Darn @#$%!!@ hot summers!
Hi shy & Marti and anyone else lurking out there!

07-29-2008, 08:48 PM
Red~Proud of you. You are doing great.

AppleBlossom~Do you have a treadmill? Can you walk at a local mall? Do you have any walk or cardio dvds you can use? Just some ideas to kick around. At our mall they have open mall walking before they open. Then After they open you can still walk for exercise you may have to deal with shoppers though. One of our local hospitals has a place you can walk in out of the weather. They also let you walk in the garage up and down the ramps. The hospital walking area is heated or cool as the seasons go. Again, just ideas you can check out. That way you don't have to worry so much about the hot dog days of summer.

day 2 Level 2: ab workout 2 pause days left
day 2 Level 2: cardio 2 pause days left
day 1 Level2: weight training 2 pause days bk ab hp lg bt
Not on challenge: wall push ups 83

Jolly-Marti everyone else keep up the good work. Pat

07-30-2008, 07:52 AM
Morning all. Just wanted to say hi. I have been reading and lurking, while I try to get dragged back on the wagon. The weight hasn't been coming back, but i know my mindset is not where it needs to be to continue in the right direction. So, I am working on that, and then forward we go.

Thanks Apple, and hope you can find somewhere to work out again soon. My sister and I are still looking at both the San Francisco and the ET marathons for next year, but it is fun just seeing what all might be possible:D Oh yeah, and last night I got a real good illustration why athletes talk about "carb loading" before events, and not "fresh veggie loading." I had a big salad for dinner earlier (we ran late due to the weather), and had to stop twice for . . . well, let's just say running was a "moving" experience. :lol: Only to me.

Off to bike. Have a great day all. :wave:

07-30-2008, 01:31 PM
Morning ladies...

Yesterday was day 6. Didn't walk as long as I usually do, but I did walk. I almost feel like I'm cheating by counting it, but I doing it anyway. :s:

I have also started some morning workouts to get me energized before the start of my day. Helps; plus it comes with good benefits if I continue! :D

I really need to spend some time and do some indi's with you all, but I'm always in a rush at the beginning of the day. Will try this evening, but may not be until the weekend when I have more time.

Keep up the good work girls!!


07-30-2008, 02:01 PM
I'm new, but would like to try this. All of you have been inspiring me and I need some challenges to keep me going.

No beer or red wine, and to expand on it, ONLY water or tea (Allowing 3 pauses) 2 days
Food/exercise journal (no pauses) 4 days
exercise, even if just a walk after dinner, every day (one pause) 2 days

Red: you sound so frustrated, just like me. Life is so stressful sometimes. My patients or my staff or my hub can any one of them set me off, wanting to eat, or have a drink after work, or to "reward" myself. This is why this board is so great, to be able to vent......

Apple Blossom
07-30-2008, 03:32 PM
No Beer, Day 2, 2 pauses left.
30 min exercise, Day 0, 2 pauses left.

Still not off the ground with the exercise. I'm a little worried because we will be traveling a bit in a few weeks and it might be hard to get it in. I'll try.
Thanks for the tips, Dixie. We had a week of really hot weather combined with a lot of smoke from all the fires, so I took a week off and never started up again. DH is out of town right now and I have 3 kids, they are not old enough to be left alone while I go for a run. I have a gym to go to if I really need to run on a treadmill I can go there, but I can't bring the kids. I prefer to actually GO somewhere when I'm running. It makes it much more interesting. Sometimes I wish I had a treadmill, but there really isn't a place for it in my small house. I admire your work out plan! Its sounds great. Be patient and it should pay off!
Jolly, I have that moving experience a lot when I run. I can usually go about 2 miles and then I need to get home fast! Especially if I am running in the morning. I hate that. For my longer runs, I run a 2 mile loop so I can make a pit stop.
Welcome modcat! You have a great plan too! Stick to it!
Hi Marti, Red, Shy, miriam, and everyone else!

07-30-2008, 05:48 PM
The water retention, if that's what it is, is absolutely ridiculous! :mad: I am SO sick of this. Really, really sick.
More minutes spent sitting in a bar last night drinking oolong tea and shaking our heads over the work situation. It is all so depressing. I want OUT!! ...but on my terms.

modcat, welcome! :welcome:

NEW CHALLENGE(s) Started July 29
Food and exercise journal. Day 2 completed no pauses.

New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 2 completed 3 pauses left
No sugar 1 pause Day 2 completed 1 pause left
No cigs No pauses Day 2 completed
No processed foods 1 pause Day 2 completed 1 pause left

No alcohol 33 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 30 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 30 days straight
No processed foods 30 days straight

Apple, Marti, Dixie, jolly, heh there! :wave:

07-30-2008, 10:41 PM
Apple Blossom: Sometimes I find when I travel is when I can fit exercise in better! Especially in hotels, I always wake up much earlier than hub and go down to their gym, or walk the beach, etc. If visiting/staying with family, I like to walk their neighborhoods and look at the houses, etc. It's a new place, new surroundings and it stimulates me!

07-30-2008, 11:01 PM
Hi there. Apple, I found it really depends on what i eat. Didn't think salad would have been a problem. Good to know it isn't just me with this little issue.

Red, hang in there.

Modcat welcome

everyone else :wave:

07-31-2008, 12:04 AM
hi everyone~Welcome Modcat, looking forward to getting to know you.

Red~Hang in there water weight will be gone in a day or two. Stress can do strange things to the body. One day you will be running to the restroom and it will be gone. In the mean time the bloated feeling can make ya angry.

Apple~Do you have good cardio tape or dvd? Maybe the kids could work out with you? You sound frustrated. Wish you could find an alternative. Do you like stepping workouts? Kickboxing? Martial Arts? Do you have the fit tv channel on dish or cable? Again, just trying to kick around some ideas. Maybe even a resistance band workout would do the trick for you until you can get out and walk, run, or jog.

Okay I did it.
Level 2 day 3: ab workout 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 3: cardio 1 hr stepping workout 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 2: weight training arms chest shoulders 2 pause days left
Not on challenge: 30 wall push ups

Catch ya all later Pat

mountain mama
07-31-2008, 10:29 AM
I'm a little late finding this threadbut i'm up for a 21 day challenge.

My challenge is exercise related.
Level 2 - walk/jog 3-5 k everyday

Day one!

07-31-2008, 09:10 PM
Hi all. OK. I think I am back. Fully seated on the wagon. Arms and legs in the vehicle.

I had a mini epiphany today. REalized how silly it was, all the energy I spend feeling not good enough, and worrying about others not liking me or not thinking I am good enough. Am I going to be 80 years old, in a nursing home, and worrying about if the other old ladies at Bingo will let me sit next to them? Or worse, peering down from Heaven (let's think positive here) obsessing about who is or isn't at my funeral? I need to get a life. Spend that energy being thankful for and appreciating all I do have. GET A GRIP.

Life is too bloody short. So I am going to do my best to let that go once and for all. Done. Caput. Finito. I have too many blessings.

So, 2 challenges, all level 1's. STarted today.

1) Follow menu, keeping under 2000 calories. This is a level 1, as my menu GIVES me a free day a week. I should be able to stick with that, yes?

2) Follow workout plan. This is a level 1 because it is the one thing I have been doing. In fact, I realized that the two times I feel best are when I am snuggling the hounds, and running. Sick, but true.

Anyway, welcome newbies, and :wave: to everyone else. I need to spend some time with the pups before running. We go late tonight, due to the weather. I hope it isn't another "moving" experience.

07-31-2008, 09:25 PM
Well, people, Happy August! At least it is over here already. I can now officially say that I did NOT have any alcohol in the month of July! How's that?! :cb: Well, it may not sound like much to those who never or rarely drink, but to me it smacks of the impossible.....NOW possible! Yeah, my drinking buddies are amazed. :lol: Pretty pathetic in a way, but I hadn't realized what a habit it had become. Of course, Japan (and my British friends) are into a huge drinking culture, and it is SO easy to go out all the time. It's nothing like the States. Anyhow, the sugar cravings are becoming worse. I am fantasizing a bit about sugar. Oh, darn. At times I feel the weight is coming off and I should be happy. It's not really hard in that I am eating! And yet, I'm not feeling very happy. All I can think about are my old ways, my old comfortable ways. Like I said, pathetic.

Overall, I am so tired of being obsessed about my body, when, really, no one notices, no one cares. It's SO easy to not care myself. I mean really, when you're talking 20-30 pounds, it's not really about health anymore. It's about things that many people would say are NOT of any importance whatsoever or would say are vain and arrogant. I mean, does looking your best matter to anyone of consequence. Is it something to strive for? Certainly, there's enough vanity in this world and far more important things than looking good. Sigh. You see, I am my worst enemy. Or, perhaps not, perhaps I need to find other reasons for losing weight and looking my best that have more meaning to them.

I need to find those reasons, not just throw in the towel on my weight-loss efforts. And yes, drinking alcohol and eating sugar is not healthy. I should remember that. I see enough near-anorexic, very unhealthy looking people around me every day! I am appalled at the condition of a lot of people's skin, poor complexions, pasty looks covered rather unsuccessfully by makeup.

Anyhow, check out the total eclipse of the sun today!!

Food and exercise journal. Day 3 completed no pauses.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 3 completed 3 pauses left
No sugar Day 3 completed 1 pause left
No cigs Day 3 completed no pauses
No processed foods Day 3 completed 1 pause left

No alcohol 34 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 31 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 31 days straight
No processed foods 31 days straight

fauxtini -- Welcome! :welcome2: Love your avatar picture. You're so pretty! I read your profile. Good luck on your efforts to get to the States. By the way, your blog link is not working. Good luck on your challenge! :goodluck:

Dixie -- Again, you rock on the exercise! And thank you for the encouragement. The bloat is still there. Sigh. I just need a nice break, a nice vacation and some new clothes...

jolly -- Thanks. I just saw your new posts. You too, I see, are having thoughts of the bigger picture, the more important things, even though they are about other things. I think we both know that our obsessions are a lot of wasted thought, something that has no value in itself and takes away from the things we should be doing. Uh, well, I don't know what else to say. Let's just keep on with our commitments, if for nothing, then for the way they conribute to our more important endeavors.

modcat -- You and I are a lot alike on the exercise front and it sounds like we both suffer from boredom and the same old same old. I know I should change things around, change my routine etc., but that's just it, the routines are comfortable, aren't they? I suppose they serve us in some way, but they also can keep us stagnant. Key is to add a little I guess, enough to keep things fresh, but not kill the good things, kind of like cleaning an aquarium I suppose. Add enough new water to keep it clean without killing the fish...hmmm.

Apple -- Good for you for braving the no beer challenge. You have liftoff! Let me tell you, it gets easier, but the initial couple weeks are HARD! It's worth it though because the body starts changing and I can feel it. With beer it kind of feels like everything is sitting still inside, the empty calories just being moved into the fat cells, while the body goes, "Heh! Where's the fuel?!?!"

Marti, Shy how goes it? :listen: Fish, what happened to you?!?!!? :dunno:

07-31-2008, 11:00 PM
Jolly~Sounds like you have a plan going on. Good for you.

Red~It is not vanity to want and work at looking your best. It is about health, mind, and spirit. It is not only the outer appearance, it is about the inner self also. A healthy inner self will radiate a happy healthy outer self. Shinny hair, glowing complection, even beautiful eyes, teeth, and nails. If you don't care about yourself who else will? If people want to think you are a vain person, let them, you can't stop them. But you can flash a beautiful smile because they don't know where you came from, how hard you worked. They don't need to know because they are not your true friends any way. Plastic people have plastic ways.

Level 2 day 3 weight training back legs hips 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 4 cardio 1 hour stepping 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 4 abs 2 pause days left
Not on challenge 92 wall push ups

Tomorrow will be the challenge to get through. Catch ya all later Pat

07-31-2008, 11:03 PM
hmmm...nice thoughts, Dixie :yes: And there you go again, ZOOOOMING on the exercise! Rock 'n' roll!!!! :dancer:

mountain mama
07-31-2008, 11:57 PM
Redballoon: Thanks :) And say whaaaa? my blog link doesn't work? I will have to try to fix that! Good luck on your journey.. I'm sure we will be chatting lots.. I'm on here constantly to keep myself motivated! hehe

08-01-2008, 02:19 PM
Level 2 day 4: weight training arms shoulders back 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 5: cardio 3 mile brisk walk tape 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 5: ab work out 2 pause days left

I made it through the day! I am off to hit the shower then it is off to my sisters' for an evening of cards. I love to go to my sisters house and I love to play cards, but I am dreading it tonight. Hopefully my nerves will not get the best of me. And I won't live on tylenol. Wish me luck! Pat

mountain mama
08-01-2008, 02:24 PM
Day one is complete for me! I did a 6k walk and an hour of laps at the pool. woot woot! Can't wait to complete day 2!

08-01-2008, 05:11 PM
Hi all. Well, this could be the day I decide to break my no alcohol challenge and take part in a party at the riding club. But, I don't know. Too many problems at work (possible legal problems) and it's not the kind of mood I should be drinking in, especially not for the first drink in 35 days. Would love to have a kind of victory drink, not a last drink before all h@ll breaks loose. Sigh. I need some place to go and hide from the world.
But, I am going to try to be tough. Didn't think at all about the whole looking hot justification, as in why should I bother to lose more Oh well, you know which me I'm going to try my hardest to justify. And I am good at such. ;)

Oh, and heck, I just weighed in and I thought for sure I'd be down, but the weight is UP! What goes?!?!? Oh, I am really losing patience anymore. No sugar, no alcohol. Ok, I'm eating but not that's just not right... :(

Food and exercise journal. Day 4 completed no pauses.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 4 completed 3 pauses left
No sugar Day 4 completed 1 pause left
No cigs Day 4 completed no pauses
No processed foods Day 4 completed 1 pause left

No alcohol 35 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 32 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 32 days straight
No processed foods 32 days straight

fauxtini -- Excellent work! :bravo: Hope you get that blog link fixed....I've discovered blogs and am starting to like them!

Dixiemae -- Congrats. Congrats. Another day down! :cheer: Sure hope you can weather the card playing. You say you love it but you get headaches?! sound like a glutton for punishment. :lol:

mountain mama
08-01-2008, 06:05 PM
Redballoon: I have been eating insanely good and working out like crazy and I am going up too!! I keep telling myself it's musclegain. hehe Let's just tell ourselves that.

I tried to fix my blog, let me know how it goes :)

08-01-2008, 08:19 PM
Hey everyone :wave: Just a quick flyby here.

Red: I think you rock. Not drinking, when it would seem easier just to go with the flow takes huge commitment to yourself. To do what is best for yourself. Not being fluent in metric, I am not sure how many pounds overweight you are right now, but remember, the closer you are to goal, the harder it is to get those last pounds off. And you are living healthier - what a good way to be. You are worth so much more than a number on the scale or a clothing size. Remember that. Celebrate that. Sometimes courage is the little voice that says "I will try again tomorrow." You can do it!

I had to laugh today, even though I feel like a dork. I got back late from picking up a new client. I was microwaving my frozen dinner, which looked a little off from being in my freezer for who knows how long :shrug:, when the boss I was having a meeting with showed up early. I don't like eating in front of others when it is not communal meal time (unless it is on the phone. I have no problem chewing in your ear), so I tossed the entree, and just had a yogurt and V8. We then went out to tour a construction site, and determine electrical needs, when I thought I was going to be sick or pass out. I told him I had to leave NOW, and did.

I never used to have to worry about low blood sugar, as I did my best to keep my blood well sugared :lol: Now, when I am not eating enough for a football team, I guess I need to realize how important it is to eat regularly.

Have a good night all. As long as I get my biking in here shortly, day 2 is done.

Shy Moment
08-01-2008, 09:53 PM
Just thought I would check in and say hi. Have been back on this darn prednizone again for almost a month. Feel like crap lol. Well, not real sure about that because I don't personally know how crap feels but lolol. Eating is going well and I am getting my exercise in.Weight is going up and down and up and down. Today is still a down day lol so that is good.

08-01-2008, 10:07 PM
So far, stuck to my challenges, but I did have one glass of red wine after the movie last night. (Girls night out--we saw "Mama Mia"--what fun!) Good thing I gave myself 3 pauses! I admire you Red for going 35 days!!!

Weight only down 3/10ths of a lb since 7/30, though.

08-02-2008, 04:34 AM
jolly -- Thank you so much. Your words were just what I needed. Really. I was in a state. Just came home from a horrible riding lesson and cried. All the way home I just couldn't wait to get home so I could cry. Everything is just too much. Work is on my mind constantly. I was "reassigned" at the whim of the president and it took effect yesterday. It is just that, a whim and I am told it is illegal. They are pressuring me to sign a new contract with a pay cut. A poisoned chalice of a job. I really didn't believe it til yesterday when I found myself all alone except for many workers telling me to fight it. The company is in a shambles. The nonmanagers went on a symbolic strike yesterday as well. I can tell myself it's not about me, that I did a great job and I did, but it still eats away at me. I am seeing a lawyer on Monday. I am dreading what I have to do perhaps, fight certain decisions in court. My riding teacher basically told me my balance sucks and there is no way I can improve except for months and months of riding without stirrups. I did NOT go to the party. With work, my challenge and then the lost lesson, I was in no mood for it. I knew that alcohol at this point would be bad news. Anyhow, your words were lovely. Thank you. Sorry I work in metric, by the way. My scale is metric and I've been here so long that English doesn't mean much to me anymore and I'd have to convert anyhow. I am only 5' 1.5" and am thinking it would be good to weigh around 130 lbs, but wonder if 115 lbs isn't better. I have no idea. I haven't been there in years, if ever. I was down around 130 once and I think I was pretty lean and I didn't have that much muscle. So, with muscle maybe it would be fine. I'm about 23 lbs over that now. It may not seem like much but on my small frame every little bit really shows. Now, that's a good thing when you lose, but all the worse when you gain. The fact that I am pretty solid under the fat means I guess I carry it well. Anyhow, it was all just too much. I try so hard at everything and seem to get nowhere. I am NOT giving up though. I know I am getting somewhere and to **** with our moron president and my riding teacher. She was probably right in that I have balance issues (and how!!!, but not on the horse.. :lol3: ) but it's not like I'm falling off or anything. I think all I need is a bit of work, not mega amounts. Sigh. What you said about the huge commitment I am making to myself really hit home. Yeah, I guess it is and it goes TOTALLY unrecognized, except for you and maybe some other people in here. Though, yes, some people at work expressed their amazement at my not drinking and one guy who has a real problem with alcohol said I inspired him. If I can be an inspiration and help someone, that's pretty good stuff, no? But yeah, the blows have been coming hard and heavy and though I can be a pretty cocky chick that's only because I'm not really challenging myself where it really hurts. This drinking thing is different! Oh, boy, is it. Sugar, been there, done that. Alcohol, no, not in over 25 years. Not with the huge amount of temptation I have from my environment now. Well, OK, this is becoming an epic tale. Thanks again and good luck with you too! :love:

fauxtini -- It probably is muscle gain with you. Your blog still isn't working. I think you have to change the link as well perhaps. Here's what you have to do....Go to the top left of this page and hit the User CP button (it's in the purple line), then go into that and hit the Edit Profile button. Scroll down a bit (fifth box from the bottom) and you'll see where you're supposed to type in your blog name, which, I see, is fauxtini. Yeah! Then your link should be fixed. No?

Shy -- Good to see you again. I was wondering where you were. :?: As long as your eating is going well, I guess that's most of the battle, right? I hope things stabilize on the new medication.

modcat -- Thanks! If I could stop at 1 glass, there wouldn't be a problem, but I guess I'm more of a druggie than I thought. Well, actually, I did know and that's why I stay away from things (except caffeine). I am far too much of a "head." ;) Thanks for the congrats. 35 days and STILL going after all!

mountain mama
08-02-2008, 11:06 AM
ok. I was putting the whole address in.. blog is fixed now. Thanks!!

Anyway... about the drinking.. It's crazy what a difference it makes on so many levels. I used to be a well HEAVY drinker. I was known as the one that liked to drink.. 'the thirsty girl'. It was always so fun for me to go out and drink and be silly blahblahblah.. well suddenly one day.. it hit me. I dont want to drink anymore. ( i think meeting the man of my dreams had something to do with it) I had never realize till I met my now, fiance, how I used alcohol to cover up so many issues. It opened a whole new world to me, not drinking. Im learning to REALLYU be ok with myself and relaize I didn't have everything under control like I thought I did.

Once you get over the hump.. not drinking actually feels good! my kudos goes to redballoon and those that aren't drinking.. its soo well worth it!!

That being said.. I am going to have a drink tonite for a friends engagment party. But I know that a couple drinks is ok for me.

Anyway.. off to complete day 2 :)

08-02-2008, 08:59 PM
I got through another day. It wasn't easy. Is it ever? Well, maybe occasionally. :^: Waiting for that day. I did have a save though. Had put a bag of some peanut crackers in my basket at the store and then thought, no, heck, these are PROCESSED. There's no way I can look askance. So, at the register I put them down. Hurrah! I may have had too much food's hard to say...when you're eating stuff like corn on the cob it REALLY fills you up. I am writing the journal and keep thinking I have forgotten things because I feel so full! Maybe I have forgotten something....but no, I think I'm OK. Just wish the weight would come off. I am realizing just how much fat had accumulated around my gut. :eek: Wow, is it amazing or what how good we get at closing our eyes to the things we don't want to acknowledge?!?!

Food and exercise journal. Day 5 completed no pauses.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 5 completed 3 pauses left
No sugar Day 5 completed 1 pause left
No cigs Day 5 completed no pauses
No processed foods Day 5 completed 1 pause left

No alcohol 36 days straight (first day off was June 28)
No sugar 33 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 33 days straight
No processed foods 33 days straight


fauxtini -- Yeah, I hear you. With me it's not really a drink thing at all. It's ME. I become like a runaway train, with the only way to stop me being to hit a curve. I don't enjoy doing things until I get so into them it becomes an obsession. Now, if it's a good thing, something that takes me somewhere other than from one bar to another or until I nearly drop from exhaustion, then all is well, at least from the usual perspective. Over the years I have learned to stop a bit sooner, or more often than not, NOT START. So, that's the way it is with me. I really am sick of having to temper myself so much. I really am sick of me. How did Day 2 go?

08-02-2008, 09:45 PM
I am so bummed. The scale is down but only a bit, and still showing NO loss for over a week. I've been so good, really. I mean, what's the point? What is wrong with my gd'd body? I seem to have more fat around my gut than before and the water should be gone by now. You know, really, if my body wants the fat so much, maybe I should just give up. I am frustrated beyond hope. :( I mean, what is the point of all my abstinence if it's not showing any results? This is not a matter of, oh, darn, I've been a glutton, oh darn, I've been lazy. Am I cursed or what? Yes, I am cursed, born under a bad star...sigh.

Anyhow, here is where I turn at such times...of course, AFTER the rant. God bless this woman and her blog!


08-02-2008, 09:52 PM
You still there Red? Don't give up. Do something nice for yourself. Pamper yourself a little bit. Do something to remember how special you are, and you deserve to be treated like it. You have to take care of you.

08-02-2008, 10:17 PM
Still here, jolly. Yeah, good idea. Now to think of something that doesn't involve eating or drinking....which is what I NEED to be doing if I'm ever going to stick to this.

08-02-2008, 10:43 PM
Do your nails. Take a bubble bath. Snuggle your pets. Go to the gym. Read a good book. Go out for a healthy meal. Go buy yourself flowers. You can do it. What makes you feel pampered? Come on girl! How do you expect others to treat you like a goddess, if YOU don't?

Never forget how much more than just a number on the scale YOU ARE. This goes out to all of you too. :nono:

08-02-2008, 11:54 PM
You know, I just came across a pack of cigarettes and I thought, oh, I could have some of these....and then I thought, it would be SO easy to start smoking yet again...but then I thought again and I realized that I'm not smoking and haven't been for over a month and yeah, that took a bit of effort and it's always going to take a bit of effort, because it's so easy NOT to make that effort. Then I thought again...

I'm here yammering about how hard it is, oh, how hard and awful and poor me, poor me, but really, WHAT have I actually done??! It's more what I haven't done and for some reason this particular NOT doing is harder than other particular doings. But aren't they in the end, really the same? It's really about awareness and keeping promises to yourself.

The effort for a lot of things other than concerted exercise is largely a matter of habit and merely redirecting actions or withholding actions. OK, now I feel a little better, realizing I really haven't been DOING all that much. It just shows how I've been sleepwalking through life though and that is the pathetic part, not my slow weight loss...notice, I did say "slow," not lack of. ;)

08-03-2008, 01:07 AM
Hi Everyone~I hope everyone is having a great weekend. I have been on an emotional roller coaster. Tomorrow would have been our 36th anniv. It will be the first one divorced. He will leave on vacation tomorrow. I am babysitting my dog, my beautiful black lab. He is my baby, my soul mate.

I found 2 boxes of vhs tapes and dvds that my ex left off here. What a treasure trove!! I had a blast going through them. I found my complete set of Cory Everson weight training tapes. One cardio tape of hers that I dearly love!! I found several ab workout tapes. :dance::dance: I found a Denise Austin Pilates tape. I will do that one tomorrow. YEAH!!:cp:

Red~ I am so proud of you. Life is all about the decisions we choose to make every day. Discovering ones inner self is a journey that shapes who we are. Way to go girl!

Level 2 day 5: weight training shoulders triceps chest 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 6: Ab work out 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 6: 1 hour cardio Added 1 inch to step 2 pause days left
Not on challenge 90 wall push ups

I could really feel the difference adding an inch of height made. Catch ya all later. Pat

08-03-2008, 02:04 AM
Hey Red - you know, you say you're focusing and what you haven;t been doing, and not what you ARE doing. Maybe you should write down one thing a day <at least> that you HAVE done, and then you've got something to look back on. As a person who focuses on the negative <what I didn't do, what I should've done, etc.> I think it's important to realize how much positive you really do. Just a thought!

Jolly- so right! No one else is going to put usin the center, so we have to do it ourselves! You mentioned some great suggestions, too. How's the exercise going? I'm amazed about how quickly I can now go up a hill without having a heart attack or even severe chest pain - I know that my body is certianly 18 pounds happier, if nothing else!

Pat - WTG, are you measuring every week or 2? With all your exercise I bet you're losing inches!

Well, as for me, i'm starting all my challenges over. I think with regards to the serenity prayer - that actually night be the most important thing for me to focus on at present as I am far to busy with so many things hat are totally out of my circle of influence...

So here we go again:

1) 3 meals a day <at least> - 2 pauses
2) 5 minutes ME-time a day <at least> - 2 pauses
3) meditate on the serenity prayer - 3 pauses

mountain mama
08-03-2008, 12:04 PM
Day 2 is complete. I think im day 3 will be an inside equivalent of 5k.. darn rain! :)

08-03-2008, 03:40 PM
hey all. I am currently working on day 4, and so far so good. had a 4 pound loss this week AND was able to get into size 16 pants I had in my closet yet. Woo hoo.

I am very tired today for some reason. I need to organize my home office and work on my homework, but no motivation at the moment. Maybe will take a short nap, and then try again. :yawn:

mountain mama
08-03-2008, 03:54 PM
Jollygirl!!! Awesome news about your pants! Doesn't it feel amazing when you can get into a lower size!! yaaahooo :)

I just finished my day 3 :)

08-03-2008, 04:07 PM
I am into the 7th day of the this latest attempt to have a better rest of my life.
Since starting this, I have:

Kept my food journal--7 days
exercised every day--7 days
BUT, no alcohol or diet drinks--I have used up all of my pauses now. I need to go 14 days more, (plus tonight--our relaxing Sunday eve before the crazy work week begins) without any more "breaks" or else I'll have to start again!

Dixiemae--So sorry about your emotional rollercoaster weekend. That is really rough. I feel for you. But it sounds like you are learning to cope and continuing to grow as an independent, strong, beautiful individual. PS--I know what you mean about your dog being your soul mate! I swear mine can read my mind and my moods, and try to offer comfort when I am sad, or get me up to exercise when I've been sitting too long, etc.

08-03-2008, 04:27 PM
Sorry for being MIA.

I've posted here why: REASON (

I'm going to continue my exercises and water, but unable to get online everyday.

WILL be back to restart this challenge once all is good!

08-03-2008, 05:05 PM
Day 1 complete for all 3 challenges.

welcome back, marti

WTG jolly - so much fun to fit into smaller clothes! i don't feel like i've even dropped a real size yet, after 18 lbs of weight loss! WTH? LOL

great job mod - you made it though 7 days of no drinking - you can do another 14!

08-04-2008, 12:19 AM
Level 2 day 6 yoga 2 pause days left (allowed day off of weight training)
Level 2 day 7 ab work out 2 pause days left
Level 2 day 7 1 hour cardio 2 pause days left

Catch ya all later Pat

night binger
08-04-2008, 12:44 AM
I new to this but, 1 day - no night binging 20 to go!

08-04-2008, 07:10 AM
Way to go Pat, and welcome to nightbinger.

Miriam, have you TRIED on smaller sizes? It can be quite surprising. I am still pretty much working through smaller "leftovers" in my closet, though will have to start buying soon. At least a few things to keep me going. I didn't think they were going to work, and was surprised. Pleasantly, of course. Go play with clothes and see what works in the different styles. Have a fun day.

I didn't make it to the gym this morning. I have really been dragging lately in the AM's. I did do my core and stretching. If I don't hit the bike quick, I will work out on my way home.

Have a good day all :wave:

08-04-2008, 09:23 AM
I have been slacking on my posting lately. Thank you all for your caring support. I really need it.

Miriam~I didn't think to measure before I started my weight loss. I should have though. I avoid pictures like posion. My son caught me off guard the other day and snapped a picture. I can use it as a beginning picture. Try on some different clothes, play around with different styles. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the new look. And feel pretty too.

Tapping~Thank you for the kind words. It was a very tough day. My son helped me through it all. I love my black lab so very much. At the end of the week I have to give him back to my ex. That will be another tough bump in the road. I certainly am enjoying having him again. I am in deed a die hard Cubs fan!

Jolly~Thank you!!

Red~How are you doing?

Every one else I how are you doing? How did the weekend go for you? Another pound gone. (

mountain mama
08-04-2008, 09:25 AM
im going away for a couple days.. so i will keep track and keep you posted when I return!!!

08-04-2008, 04:58 PM
Not doing too good, people. Spent all day with a lawyer and labor consultant. Blew the no-drinking the day before. Sick with myself. Can't sleep, itching and skin is driving me crazy. Please give me strength.... Help!!!

08-04-2008, 05:21 PM
Took pause on booze. It was not fun, except at first. Kind of got forced into it....sigh.

Here's where I stand as of Tuesday morning...

Food and exercise journal. Day 7 completed no pauses.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 6 completed 2 pauses left
No sugar Day 7 completed 1 pause left
No cigs Day 7 completed no pauses
No processed foods Day 7 completed 1 pause left

No alcohol /current straight 1 day/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3
No sugar 35 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 35 days straight
No processed foods 35 days straight

08-04-2008, 05:28 PM
Okay Red honey - hope you're feeling better, remember - you're always the one who tells us not to give up, but just to start over!!

I'm day 0 for 3 meals,
day 2 for me-time
day 2 for serenity prayer

mountain mama
08-04-2008, 05:33 PM
redballoon: I hear ya on the stress aspects of life. But don't give up!! Feel free to vent to me whenever you need.. vent instead of eating or drinking or any of those things! we are all here for ya :)

08-04-2008, 05:53 PM
thanks, miriam and faux... :hug:

08-04-2008, 08:51 PM
Red, my thoughts are with you. I wish I had some magic words to give you, other than you are not alone. We are all here for you, sending you good vibes. I hope things get better for you soon. You deserve it!

Everyone else, hope you are having a good day. TAke care of yourselves.

08-05-2008, 01:41 AM
So Red - things pick up for you yet? It's okay if they haven't either - we all go through rough patches, but that's what they are - just a patch. And we're all here for each other. Drop a line!

Shy Moment
08-05-2008, 03:19 PM
Sorry, just a quick fly by. All the company left today so today is full of cleaning the house and getting laundry done. Tomorrow is back to the camp grounds until Sunday evening. We are going to the state fair Friday and Saturday so very full week and weekend and doesn't cost much at all :)

Red, I am so sorry you are having such a rough time. You are strong, you hang in there. God smiles on good people and you are good people.

08-05-2008, 05:33 PM
Day 0 - meals
Day 3 - me time
Day 3 - serenity

Red - are you okay?!?!
Rennie - I bet it's great having your house back to yourself now - bet it feels huge, LOL

08-05-2008, 08:24 PM
Oh wow. just lost all I had typed :o

Red, are you there? I am hoping you have found at least one bright spot in your day. One thing to be thankful for.

Shy - glad you got your house back. Good luck with all the cleaning. Miriam, how goes the second job? Is that done yet?

I am on day 6 of following workout plan, and day 5 of following menu. I used up my one pause on the menu yesterday, as I did not measure out (or stick with an acceptable portion) of a snack. That'll learn me:lol: I am feeling better than I had for a couple weeks though. I am enjoying a running book I got, and training is going well.

Have a good night all. Newbies, hope your challenges are going well :wave:

08-06-2008, 12:54 AM
Red~You are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope things have picked up for you. How are you doing?

Level 2 Day 7: weight training One pause day left
day 8 cardio: 1 hour 35 minutes stepping one pause day left
day 8 ab workout: 75 crunches one pause day left.
Not on challenge 2 ssets of 50 wall push ups

Didn't like using a pause day so early in the challenge. I could not force myself to do any thing yesterday. Catch ya all later Pat

08-06-2008, 01:25 AM
After an inconsistent weekend, today finally feeling back in control and on plan. No pauses left on booze, soda, and have filled in food diary every day.

Problem is, work out every day I have to start over. Day 1 tomorrow.
No booze, soda: Day 9
Food diary: Day 9

Good thing is I feel strong and disciplined again today. What gives?

08-06-2008, 08:19 AM
Hi people. Thanks for all your concern. I am not doing well, but I am pushing on. Took off work again today. Thought I had found a good herbalist but it was all acupressure, acupuncture and such. Still, I went in the hopes that I can help my skin. It felt good (and painful at times) but these things don't give any immediate relief.
Work is worse and it is really testing all my strength and then some to not become totally, totally depressed, seriously.
The labor advisor called to tell me she had read the contract they are pressing on me and said it is really bad and to not go anywhere near it. After over 20 years of service, they want to screw with me yet again. It's really too much. I have to meet the prez tomorrow and I don't know how I can even face her. I do not consider her human any more. Really.
I am so down, really. I can't find the strength to talk to you individually, so please let it suffice to say, jolly, miriam, Dixie, mod, Shy, faux, thank you all very much for your kind thoughts, prayers and encouragement. It means a lot. Apple, Fish, Marti, get in here! nightbinger...(a binger no longer!)...welcome!

Where I stand on Wednesday (not including Wednesday)

Food and exercise journal. Day 8 completed no pauses.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 7 completed 2 pauses left
No sugar Day 8 completed 1 pause left
No cigs Day 8 completed no pauses
No processed foods Day 8 completed 1 pause left

No alcohol /current straight 2 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar 36 days straight (first day off was July 1)
No cigs 36 days straight
No processed foods 36 days straight

08-06-2008, 09:21 PM
Today was a tough day to get through. I have been very depressed. I cried some, I think that is past now. I did not want to exercise today, but I did any way. I am tired, but I feel good that I did get it done. At least I accomplished something positive today.

Red~It is good to hear from you. You are in my thoughts and prayers. You can do this Red, you can. We will help you get through this rough spot.

Level 2 day 8 weight training 1 pause day left
Level 2 day 9 cardio 1 hour stepping 1 pause day left
level 2 day 9 ab workout 50 upper 50 oblique crunches 1 pause day left

Catch ya all later. Pat

08-06-2008, 10:16 PM
Red, thanks for checking in. I think I found your bright spot for you, if you haven't already. Despite all the insanity that is going on, you are still managing to stay strong with the no cigs, no sugar, no processed foods. That is amazing, as are you. My thoughts and prayers are with you, that things get better for you.

Pat, way to go for getting it done. Iam sorry you've been depressed, and hope things pick up for you soon.

I had a good day. I need to redo and restart my food challenge, but I am ok with that. I met a friend for dinner, and I ordered what looked the best to me. I enjoyed it, and when I was full, I was done. Didn't have to send it away, or do something to ruin it, I just stopped eating. What an amazingly normal concept! :fr: The light bulb finally clicks. Giving myself a "free day" hasn't been working right. I am eating more because I can, and not because something tastes good. I would rather be able to have a healthier relationship with food, and enjoy what I want, in moderation, and stop when I am full. So I will figure out how to word that and restart.

have a good night all :wave:

08-07-2008, 12:07 AM
Looks like we're all having a tough time. Sorry to hear I ain't the only one, but hey - misery loves company - right?

Day 1- 3 meals
Day 4 - me time
Day 4 - serenity prayer

08-07-2008, 10:32 AM
Hey all,

oh my gosh - I am so sorry everyone has been having such a rough time of it:hug:

I am trying to stick to my challenges but haven't been posting since the further along I've managed on any is 3 days:(

Everything is going well with the baby - we had another ultrasound of the little zombie Tuesday morning. The technician did a few of his face in 3D/4D. Cool, but also sort of creepy! Most important, all of his organs, bones, and limbs that are supposed to be there, are there and healthy:)

Things are not going so good with me though - I am just sad all the time. And so unbelievably tired. I broke down and finally told my obstetrician how I have been feeling. I am apparently very high-risk for post partum depression. Just great. I am already feeling bad about being sad instead of happy, and now she tells me that I might snap and hurt Magnus after he is born.:( Anyway - I did go ahead and make an appointment with a psychiatrist for this Saturday. I just don't see what they will be able to do about my feelings. And I see my ob again next Wednesday.

Sorry for being such a downer today.

I will try to post more to chat even if I am not 100% sticking to my challenges.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day today.

08-07-2008, 09:15 PM
Heh all, it's my birthday today, Aug. 8, opening of the Olympics and all that. I'm hoping I can at least make a somewhat good day out of it. Fish, seeing you back in here is my first present of the day! You hang in there! I'll talk later. Just wanted to tell you it's MY day....for what it's worth!!! :woo:

mountain mama
08-07-2008, 10:07 PM
Haha!! Happy Birfday Redballoon!! YAHHOOOOO! Celebrate!! I hope do some fun stuff on your bday :) Let me know!!

I used a pause day earlier in the week... had a LOT of running around to do.. medicals, passport renewing.. blahblah for my marriage visa to go to the US to be with my fiance.. Can't wait till this visa foolishness is over and i can just be with him :( Soon sooon :)

fishwoman: Sorry to hear about your baby blues... :( Wish i knew how to help. Other than focusing on this second.. this minute always helps me. Dont let your selt get boggled down with how you may feel once the baby is born.. focus on how you feel now and making that moment ok. Im glad you have found someone to talk to. Its def a big help.

ANyway.. yeah.. had an AWESOME workout today and im feeling good.. I hope you guys are all havinga rockig good day today too :) remember.. just keep pushing forward.. we can all do this!!

08-08-2008, 01:30 AM
Got all my exercises in weight training +cardio + ab work out + my wall push ups. I will catch up with you all later today. Got to get to bed. Pat

08-08-2008, 07:02 AM
Good morning all. HAPPY BIRTHDAY RED :cb: :cheer:

Good for you Fauxtini and Dixiemae.

Fish, I am glad you are going to the psychiatrist, though i don't know how your obstetrician thought it would "help" you to know you were at high risk. I hope s/he put it gentler and more diplomatically then that. Please remember, this is something your body chemicals are doing to you, this is not about your FEELINGS. You are not a bad person. Hopefully the doctor can help get your chemistry straightened out so you feel better. Keep talking, and good luck.

I haven't restructured restarted the food goal, and I may have a slow week, but I am ok with that. I am feeling pretty darn good right now.

Have a wonderful day all :wave:

08-08-2008, 11:25 AM
Red~:bday2: :bday2you: :celebrate: :hb: :woo: :balloons:
H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

08-08-2008, 02:12 PM
Happy Birthday, Red!:celebrate::balloons: Here's to making the very best of your day!:cheers:

Thanks, Fauxtini - I try to take it one day at a time - sometimes it is definitely one hour or minute at a time:dizzy:
Best of luck with your visa/passport and impending nuptials!

Jolly - I am sure she put it in a more diplomatic way - but what I *heard* was - if you don't do something now, you will kill your baby and/or yourself:( I think her reasoning behind telling me i am high risk is that if I do need to go on medication, it can take a while to start working. Better to start now and give it time to work than wait until Magnus is born and have it not work in time.
I am glad your week is going well!

Dixiemae - way to go on the exercise!

Apple Blossom
08-08-2008, 04:42 PM

Hi Red!! A Happy Happy Birthday to you!
Sorry I haven't been around, I'm just not able to get moving on a challenge. We are going away next week, and then school starts. Once the kids are settled into a routine I think I can get my own routine started. 15 pounds by Thanksgiving!!(Oh how many times have I set a goal like that??!!!)
Anyway, Red, I am sorry for your woes at work. Smart of you to get a laywer. My SIL is a lawyer and my husband consults with her whenever he gets a new contract. He's really smart and catches a lot of details I know I would miss, and then his sister contribute her expertise. It's a good thing. I think you are going to have a great year coming up!!! :hug: And thanks for all you do here at 3FC, I know I wouldn't be here if it weren't for you. You're great!!:hug:
And have a wonderful birthday!

08-09-2008, 03:05 AM
Thank you all SO much!!! It's so nice to have all these birthday wishes. :love:
I am now recuperating from a long, long day yesterday. Will try to get back in and write at length soon.
Thanks again!!

08-09-2008, 06:10 AM
Hi Red - a day late, but I'm in Jakarta and they are 20 YEARS behind, but I wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday. Hope this one day goes well for you out of all of the crud and corruption you have put up with lately.

Keeping tabs on you, but can't challenge while I can't really control all the food I put in my mouth - not that I am bad, just don't know how it is cooked and what ingredients are in there. That's hotel living for you.

Meantime hope you had a really good day yesterday.

08-09-2008, 09:37 AM
Thanks, Shad! :hug: Don't put anything too strange in your mouth! :lol3:

08-09-2008, 12:18 PM
SOrry to have missed wishing you a happy birthday, Red. I watch the opening last night--China is sure determined to wow the rest of the world aren't they? It was impressive and beautiful.

Food Journal--Day 12
Exercise every day--Day 3 (Had to restart)
Only water and tea--Day 1 (had a beer last night, so blew it!)

On the plus side: weighed 200.5. Yaay! Just a little bit more to get under 200!! I hope by Monday AM.

08-09-2008, 02:13 PM
Good morning all. Red, hope you are recovering from a long birthday celebration. You deserve something great. Mod, Congrats on the scale. You can do it. Shad, what's in Jakarta?

I am feeling a bit down. We did our first 10 mile run, and I hit the wall. I don't know if it was that I hadn't taken any anti-inflammatories, or the shot of alcohol I had in my mixed drink last night, but my knees were rough, I was slow, and I just wanted to sit down, have a cry, and quit. I did finish, though slowly. However, it is discouraging. :stress: Ah well. I am trying to convince myself it is just a bad day, and the next run will be better.


Have a good day all.

mountain mama
08-09-2008, 03:52 PM
Jolly: But you finished it and you didn't give up even though you wanted to.. and that counts for ALOT! Im proud of you even if you aren't! ;)

I used up my last pause yesterday... but I think it was well needed- bad day.. over tired.. blahblahblah.. my work out today kicked some but though! Im proud of myself. Im doing the c25k and even though im only on week one.. im proud of myself so far:)

I may have to start on day one of this challenge in the furture before the 21.. but that's ok.. im doing my best :)

08-09-2008, 08:54 PM
I'm onlyy here to work Jolly, nothing special and rarely get to see the outside of the hotel or office. Boring really

08-10-2008, 01:11 AM
Hello everyone~ Hope ya all are having a good weekend.

Level 2 day 9: weight training hips back and calves 1 pause day left
Level 2 day 10: cardio 1 hour stepping 1 pause day left
Level 2 day 10: ab workout 125 upper crunches 50 oblique crunches. 1 pause day left

My legs are still a little bit wobbly, but I got my challenge done for today! Pat

08-10-2008, 03:30 AM
Day 3- 3 meals
Day 6 - me time
Day 6 - serenity

HAPPY B-DAY RED!!! How old are you now? Did you do anything fun?

I'm skipping a day of food today - but it doesn't count as a mess up really - it's the ninth day if the lunar month of Av and we fast to mourn the destruction of the holy temple, so if I'm not allowed to eat - i'm not really messing up - right?

Fish - good to see you back here. I hope you're feeling better, and it's good that you're under medical supervision. i'm not practitioner but I've gone through my fair share of pregnancies and had a lot of ups and downs,don't worry too much about it because that'll will - paradoxically - just make things worse. Make sure you make time for yourself now, go to the beach, bubble bath - you know, fun stuff and enjoy the feeling of having Magnus inside and growing a little new person inside of you. It's something we should cherish as we only do it for a very limited amount of times in our entire lives....

WTG Jolly@! Hopefully it will be even easier next time! :)

Apple, Faux, Shad, Pat - hello!!

08-10-2008, 08:25 AM
Where I stand on Sunday (including Sunday)

Food and exercise journal. Day 13 completed no pauses.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 11 completed 1 pause of 3 left
No sugar Day 11 completed 1 pause of 3 left
No cigs Day 12 completed 1 pause of 1 left
No processed foods Day 11 completed 1 pause of 3 left

No alcohol /current straight 2 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar 39 days straight (July 1-Aug. 9) now fallen
No cigs current straight 2 days (longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8 now fallen
No processed foods 40 days straight now fallen (July 1-Aug.10)

08-10-2008, 09:26 AM
Hi all. Thanks for all your encouragement and birthday wishes, really. I needed it and need it still. Things are really depressing and scary and I'm in a bad way. Never really felt this way before, very disoriented. But, I did feel a burst of energy today for a bit.
My challenges are nearly blown. I went off sugar and haven't gotten back on. As you may have noticed, I have rather illegally changed my pause level midstream. Ah well, better than starting over.
I'm going to have to go for another record streak. All or nothing is the ONLY way I can do things. It's just the ugly truth.


miriam -- I don't discuss my age anymore....uh-hum, uh-hum, so you know about where that puts me.... ;) Fun on my birthday? Yes and no. Lots of drinking and I did have some laughs but the talk was pretty serious what with the problems at work and all. My challenges toppled, well, beer and cigs on my birthday. I never planned to not have them topple, to be truthful. Cigs is back on, but not sugar yet. In fact, that didn't go till Saturday. Booze is going back on the wagon again. I do NOT feel good.
Good for you on your challenges and, no, I would say a religious fast day should just be ignored on your challenge.

Dixie -- You're moving right along, aren't you? :bravo: And thank YOU!

faux -- Sorry you had a bad day. They're going around, it seems. Just keep going. You're doing fine and you should be proud!!

jolly -- Thanks for all your kind words. Oh, don't be bummed. Half that down feeling is just from the exhaustion for sure. You'll have bad runs and good ones. Don't focus on the result. The main thing is you did it!! :encore: Don't lose sight of that.

mod -- No problem on missing my birthday. I was pretty out of it the next day, though I did go out for dinner and met a friend. Didn't go in for a second session of acupuncture/acupressure because I knew it would HURT! Get back on the wagon! I am too!

Apple -- Thanks for the support and kind words. The lawyer isn't doing anything yet. Hoping this week will get things rolling. It was bad last week, really bad. It's all so bizarre, being toppled from my position on the whim of a little spoiled rich girl. You can do your goal, Apple. Don't worry about setting in again. Instead, be proud of yourself for not giving up!

Fish -- I'm very concerned about you and do hope you'll get an excellent support system around you. I could see how you would be at risk if for one thing just the fact that you are a professional who now finds herself put into a new mode. It's a HUGE change. Add those thoughts (and they will be there, deep down or right in your face screaming) to the hormonal megaswings and discomfort of pregnancy and...well, if I were you, I'd have someone standing by at all times to put me in a straitjacket! Knowing the risk is a good thing. You can plan for feeling crazy or whatever. Just push through now. Like Apple said, it's chemical, sure, you may be depressed anyhow, but the chemical swings make it all the worse. Postpartum depression is not just feeling sad, as I'm sure you know. It's a massive swing and yes dangerous. Not just for your baby but YOU! Please just have someone there for you if possible, even if it means bringing in help. Sorry to sound alarmist but I have known people who had it bad. I won't go into the details but please take care of yourself!

Well, sorry if I was short on words with some. I'm just not dong too well, but had to come in for a bit. You've all been too kind. :thanks:

08-10-2008, 05:41 PM
Good luck with the lawyer this week REd. I hope you get something worked out soon.

I am in a vicious bad mood today, and not sure why. Hopefully i will get it out of me soon :(

Everyone - have a GREAT day.

08-11-2008, 02:22 AM
Weighed myself today: 200.2. Yay! I felt good today, so I worked out one hour at gym with my trainer and a second workout (C25K) for 30-35 minutes this evening with my dogs. Also have been eating OP for last 3 days. I just wish I could ALWAYS feel the way I felt today--full of energy, motivated, disciplined, satisfied with my food choices, content.

Food journal has really been helping me and it's becoming a good habit. Day 13 today.

Exercise every day: day 4
No booze or soda: day 2

I hope everyone feels much better tomorrow and can get back on their wagons or persevere. We all have our up and down days, sometimes due to circumstances totally beyond our control. We all know this isn't easy for any of us.

08-11-2008, 08:19 AM
Wow Modcat - nearly in onederland!

Hey Jolly - bad mood is contagious, haha.. i've got it today...

Red! You were planning a break in your challenges for your b-day - cheer up! I hope work is going better for you. Work is my lifeline - without it - I don't know where I' d be........ Way off the deep end for sure!

Note: Fasting aids weight loss, haha.

Day 3 - 3 meals
Day 7 - me time
Day 7 - serenity prayer

08-11-2008, 09:05 AM
Hey all. So that is where the mood went Miriam! I was wondering, as it seemed to have left me when I woke up this morning. I am truly sorry, as NOBODY deserves that mood. i hope it leaves you soon.

My sister popped in for a bit last night, and between that and a nice short run this morning, I am feeling better. Still feel completely incompetent computer wise, but reminded myself that I am going to school for law, not computer programming or repair, so not to despair.

Here's to a great day for everyone :wave: And mood free! :nono:

mountain mama
08-11-2008, 12:13 PM
red! Remember not to worry about what happened in the past with your diet.. just look forward and focus on now :) I hope this week is looking somewhat brighter. When im really down I force myself to try to think of 3 good things in my life right now. Its crazy what positive thinking can do for a person. I know how corny it sounds... but hey.. whatever works! :) Im thinkin of ya hun!

modcat! Way to go at the gym and whatnot. I think i need a trainer. people and my surroundings really motivate me.

As for me.. I feel 'almost' totally in control of my eating.. NEVER Has that happened in my life. I wish i could see results faster.. lol but im getting over that. I need to up my working out.. but im sticking to my c25k and at least a 3-5 k walk almost everyday.
Im contemplating another shrink of portion sizes and a new additon to the work out. I just dont wanna make my goals too big and ruinwhat i got goin now.

08-11-2008, 05:16 PM
Hi people. I'm abandoning the journal challenge. I'll still do it a bit but it's not helping me and is even hurting because then I feel like I failure when I don't do it. I'd rather focus on eating good food and don't need to record that to know.
I am too overwhelmed and down to deal with this. That's the simple truth, embarrassing as it may be.
I do NOT want another responsibility.
Bad nightmares the other night but none last night.
I am forcing myself to make the vegetable juice again.
Had another acupressure/acupuncture session (takes so long to type it in English...Japanese shiatsu/hari is much easier...) but things like that don't show any immediate results that I can tell. In fact, I feel more pain/discomfort afterward. Let's hope it's leading to something good... :^:

jolly -- Thanks. Not a word yesterday. I know these people are busy but I do get scared that nothing is happening with the labor advisor/lawyer. Glad to hear the mood is better. I have to very consciously control mine from going out of control. I am in a very fragile state....I am having to draw on ALL my self-restraint/control, positive thinking, especially at work, and it's exhausting.

modcat -- Isn't it nice to feel that way? Amazing when it happens. Thanks for the well wishes.

miriam -- Congrats on nearing onederland!!! Actually, I'm glad work (at least the present one) has NEVER been my lifeline. Otherwise, I would have flung myself in front of a train and been one of Japan's 30,000 suicides a year long ago.

faux -- That's a helpful thought, thinking about three good things in my life. We forget so easily and they are there. I keep telling myself I mustn't be scared but then I wonder if I shouldn't be. of such little faith. :^: Good for you for feeling in such control. Hurrah! :cb: Hope the feeling continues! YOU can help it! :yes:


Where I stand on Tuesday (not including Tuesday)

Food and exercise journal. Ending this.

New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 12 completed 1 pause of 3 left
No sugar Day 12 completed 1 pause of 3 left
No cigs Day 12 completed no pauses of 1 left
No processed foods Day 12 completed 1 pause of 3 left

No alcohol current straight 3 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 1 day/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 3 days/ longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 1 day/40 days straight (July 1-Aug.10)

mountain mama
08-11-2008, 07:55 PM
concerning the journalling... I find that its' realy helpful when you fall of the wagon and need to up your accountability. I was all Over the journal for the first couples weeks of me picking myself up after fall off the wagon. Ive strayed frmo it now.. but im still doing good. If i catch myself thinking about or cheating.. I will be right back on journalling. If you dont think it's necessary.. no worries!!

ps.. did you think of three good things for yoru day??

08-11-2008, 11:32 PM
I am going to have to start all over. My body is rebelling, I have woke up in the night 2 nights now with pain in my left hip and left shoulder. My left hand has numbness in the ring and pinky fingers. Before I need a shot of cortizone in my hip again I better back off the hip, butt weight training. Let cardio take care of that and keep going on the abs arms chest shoulders. Do I just drop that from the challenge of just start over. I have continued with the cardio. Catch ya all later. Pat

08-12-2008, 09:00 AM
Just wanted to drop in and say :wave: Mood continues to be a little edgy. Workouts are good. Food, well, i don't have a challenge yet. Am just trying to make healthy choices.

Sending good vibes to all of you :goodvibes:

08-12-2008, 11:46 AM
Good morning, all! I am feeling more upbeat right now. Went to the psychiatrist who seemed very nice. She gave me a low-dosage prescription to try and I see her again in two weeks to make sure all is going well. The 'scrip is making it even harder to fall asleep, but I am actually less tired than I have been. I see my ob again tomorrow and will discuss with her as well.

I totally overdid it Sunday - my sister and I went for a six-mile hike along the C&O canal. My back was NOT happy with me around mile 4. We had a good time together though. Took the doggies with us - they LOVE the canal! Sammydog nosed a turtle that was sunning in the path. When it moved, he freaked! My back is better today though!

I've been eating better the past few days as well. I just need to keep that up!

Modcat - way to go! you will be below 200 any second now!

Jolly - the first (and only:o) time I ran ten miles I could not decide at the end if i was going to cry, faint, throw up, or all of the above. Then i went back to 6Ks. You did it! You finished and plan on finishing again! Enjoy the last few weeks before school starts. The life of a 1L is a busy one!

Fauxtini - there is nothing wrong with starting over. We all have done it. Repeatedly. Just keep doing the best you can each day.

Shad - But, Jakarta *sounds* exotic and exciting! I am sorry you are stuck in offices and hotels all day.

Apple - good to hear from you. I hope all is going well.

Dixiemae - you are doing great! Take care of your body though.

Miriam - thank you for the kind words. I know worrying makes things worse, and I am *definitely* a worrier, planner, stick to a schedule type of person. I highly disapprove when I don't measure up to the standards I have set myself. I need to take a cue from your serenity time.

Red - I know you will get back on all your challenges. You are decidely NOT a failure!!! You are so inspirational, at least to me. Even when things are down you slog through and keep trying. I, for one, find it incredibly uplifting and impressive!

08-12-2008, 12:34 PM
Yesterday a crazy day so didn't weigh myself. Also, did not exercise and had red wine last night b/c of stress (family issues). BUT, still kept eating OP.

And today, weighed myself--all-time low! 198.4! Maybe I need to take a day and drink and not exercise more often! (just kidding).

Well, I did do a lot over the week-end so that must be it. Hopefully will continue downward.

Used up last pause in exercise: still day 4
Used up one pause in new booze challenge: still day 2
Food journal: day 15

Faux: yeah, I feel that way about my eating, now, also. I'm almost feeling totally in control--I soooo hope that feeling lasts, b/c it feels so good!

Fish: So glad to hear you are feeling better. It does sound like you are too hard on yourself, and maybe are a perfectionist. And it is so easy for others to say, don't worry so much, or, you don't have to be perfect. But combining that with pregnancy hormone craziness has got to be rough. I feel for you.

Miriam: I like your serenity thing. I made a NY's resolution to find one thing every day to be grateful for, b/c I felt like I was not feeling gratitude in my life enough--I had started to focus too much on negative thoughts. I have been pretty successful with that, but should add a serenity meditation moment every day to help cope with stress.

Red: If the journal thing is stressing you out--you are right to drop it. It's not worth it to add to your stress now. I can almost feel your stress coming over the internet--just keep trying other things like the shiatsu/hari and such to cope. And know that this, too, shall pass.

Dixiemae: Yes, I agree--back off the hips, butt thing for awhile, no good to injure yourself. Cardio and upper body is still a good amount of exercise.

Jolly: I WISH I could do 10 miles! The most I've done is a 5K once about 20 years ago. I am so NOT a runner. I am trying to do a little, though, to help with my fitness, weight loss. I'm trying the C25K now and can actually run without stopping about 6-plus minutes or 0.5 miles on the treadmill. BTW, how long did it take you to run the 10 miles?

Apple, Shad, everyone else--hang in there...

mountain mama
08-12-2008, 02:49 PM
fish: SOOOOOO completely happy to see you are feeling better/doing better. Just keep thinking good thoughts and hopefully your new prescription will keep you under control. glad to hear :)

Mod: That same thing happened to me too! I took a day off, and had a couple drinks of wine and the next day.. a little woosh of weightloss occured! It's good to let our bodies rest once in a while.. as long as it's not tooo often! hehe. Glad to hear about the alltime loww!

It seems like all of our moods are related.. last week all of us were upset/depressed/down and this week.. we are all looking at things with a new vigor! So happy to hear and see that on here!! I guess we are pretty good at helping each other out! hehe

chin up girls! :)

08-12-2008, 09:56 PM
Hi all. Another not so good day yesterday. I did slog through though and it took a lot of strength to do that. So many times I just felt like "heh, why bother?" :shrug: "Why not just throw it all in?" I'm really, really sick of everything and wondering why this is all happening. :?: Then, again, I think, well, why not? So, what are you going to do about it? And there's not much question. I'm NOT going to just take it like some sort of victim.
Oh, I found a quote that I thought was lost forever on my dead computer hard drive, but a friend was able to retrieve it and I didn't even realize that I had it, until it occurred to me last night that maybe I did, and I DID! I've posted it here before but for all you newbies, here it is. Even when the enemies are bad habits, sloth, overindulgence, ourselves, it applies. Excuse the language. Just think of G.I. Jane or something... ;)

"As far as I am concerned, the human race works on the schoolyard bully principle; smack the a**hole back, and he'll find some weak f**ker to mess with. I have seen nothing since that has changed my mind.

The really sad thing is, I think most people choose to be weak! I'm not talking big muscles; all anyone had to do was take a look at my classmates. Most of us were not strapping muscle men.

Strength is definitely a mental game. Strong people do one simple thing:
Win, lose, or draw,
they get back up;
they get the f**k back up."

"Class 29 -- The Making of US Navy SEALS" by John Roat

Now if THAT doesn't make you feel like standing up and letting out a rebel yell, then I don't know what will! :drill:


Where I stand on Wednesday (not including Wednesday)

Food and exercise journal. Ending this.

New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 13 completed 1 pause of 3 left
No sugar Day 12 completed no pauses of 3 left
No cigs Day 13 completed no pauses of 1 left
No processed foods Day 12 completed no pauses of 3 left

No alcohol current straight 4 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 0 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 4 days/ longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 days/40 days straight (July 1-Aug.10)

Will talk later!! :wave:

Shy Moment
08-12-2008, 10:13 PM
Thought I would stop in and say hello. Hope everyone is doing well. Hasn't been good for me the last few days. I got back on the meads ( after being off them for a bit ) about a month and I am very sick again. Last weigh in was good but I am starting to moon face up and be real puffy. I am mostly staying in bed the last two days ( thank heavens it didn't get real bad until the last couple days of vacation, still enjoyed the Ted Nugent concert lol ). I am being very careful what I eat but have no energy what so ever to exercise at this time. Give me a few days and ( that is all I will allow myself 3 more days lol ) I will be getting back to normal and back chatting again.

08-13-2008, 11:12 PM
Hey all. Quick flyby here, before heading in to work. Fish, glad you are feeling better. That is great news. Thanks for reminding me of the busy life of a 1L. I am already freaking out :fr: though I hope that being part time will help the busy part.

OK. Sorry that is all I have time for. I am coming down with a bug, and having a hard time focusing on what I want to write. Know I'm with you all, and cheering for you :cheer:

08-14-2008, 05:43 AM
It's all too depressing. I fell off the wagon on booze and cigs last night. I am disgusted with myself, but then....SO under the gun. Really stressful was the anniversary of my mother's death and she was on my mind a lot. Strike at work and I was asked to scab. Had to put up a fight. Don't know where any of this is leading. Couldn't sleep for the itching last night. Sigh. Again, I can just try to push on.

Where I stand on Thursday (not including Thursday)
Food and exercise journal. Ending this.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 13 completed no pauses of 3 left
No sugar Day 13 completed no pauses of 3 left
No cigs Day 13 completed 1 pause of 3 left
No processed foods Day 13 completed no pauses of 3 left
No alcohol current straight 0 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 1 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 0 days/ longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 days/40 days straight (July 1-Aug.10)

mountain mama
08-14-2008, 11:09 AM
Lost some more this morning! .2 away from the 270's! I hope to see it tomorrow. If it stays rainy like this, I doubt I will get lots of working out in. Im thinking abouthauling out some of my workout dvds. I do like them.. just like being outside better. lol

Red: I read this in a book once. And I really think it makes sense.

When given every situation in life, you can do 1 of 3 things.
1) accept the situation
2) leave the situation
3) change the situation

I know you mostly are in the waiting game of life right now, but is there aything you can do to help the situation for yourself? I know this all sounds kind of fluffy... but i find that those three choices do make sense at the end ofthe day.
REgardless.. still thinking of you.. Remember.. booze won't fix the situation :) big hugs hunny!

Shy Moment
08-14-2008, 11:20 AM
Sorry you are having such a tough time. I do feel for you. I lost a really good job one time because I wouldn't cross a picket line. Keep strong, things will work out the way they should for you.

God grant me the serenity to
Accept the things I can not change
Change the things I can
And Know the difference.

08-14-2008, 12:08 PM
Red~I really feel for you, you are in a very tough situation. No one likes scabs. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Shy~Thank you for posting the prayer. I was thinking about it this morning, then you post it. WOW!

Jolly~Hope you are feeling better today.

I am going to spend some time figuring out what and how to do my next challenge. The soreness in my shoulder is now gone. The numbness in my fingers is better. I still have some ache in my hips, but I think I am ready for some light exercise. No running or jogging for awhile though. Catch ya all later. Pat

08-14-2008, 09:30 PM
Where I stand on Friday (not including Friday)
Food and exercise journal. Ending this.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze Day 14 completed no pauses of 3 left
No sugar Day 14 completed no pauses of 3 left
No cigs Day 14 completed 1 pause of 3 left
No processed foods Day 14 completed no pauses of 3 left
No alcohol current straight 1 day/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 2 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 1 day/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 1 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-14-2008, 09:55 PM
I'm pushing on. Don't worry. It's what I do. But thank you all for the support. It truly helps just knowing there are people who care. :yes:

Dixie -- Hope you get back on a challenge soon. Why not try something non-exercise related so you won't have any pain issues?

Shy -- Good for you for not crossing a picket line. For me it's a matter of principle, as I suppose it was for you. Like they say, win or lose, you've got to make a stand. I do hope you feel better soon too. Ted Nugent?! Wow. Is he still playing?!

faux -- I'm not really in a waiting game. There are things going on in the background. I just am not going into detail here. Still, it is important to be vigilant. It is very easy to not do enough quickly enough. Timing is important. Also, there are many fronts and I do admit, though I am taking action on some of them, I am not on others. Oh, I wasn't looking for booze to fix anything. I just have a bad habit of indulging myself (because I'm being so strict in other areas largely). I need to come up with other ways of doing that I suppose. On the other hand, a bit of drinking is nothing bad. It's just that I have the challenge and was looking for a bit more perfection...not a good thing perhaps either. If I say, ok, tonight I'm doing this, then I shouldn't chide myself later about having done it. Even so, within the evening out I was actually quite lowkey. I left early. I left as soon as it wasn't fun. I didn't drink much at all, actually ordered tea twice. The content WAS different so I guess I should consider that quite a show of improvement overall.

jolly -- How are you? I hope the bug hasn't got a firm hold on you.

modcat -- Good for you for sticking to the plan. How are you doing now? Yeah, things like keeping records really annoy me. It's not like I don't remember what I've eaten or anything. It's more just executing the intention. That I can do if I set my mind to it. Normally, I just don't feel like it. :^:

Fish -- Very glad to hear you're feeling better. Strength and power to you! You're a pro. Don't let this beat you!

Apple, where are you?!?!?!? :dunno:

Shy Moment
08-15-2008, 03:39 AM
YUP he is still playing and as good as ever. I saw him many moons ago ( went with friends since he isn't my thing ) and the concert we saw the other day was every bit as good as the one I saw years ago ( unfortunately he didn't ride out on a buffalo but he did do the fire arrow bit ).
Have to love many things about the man I just can't stand music so loud that A. you have no idea what they are saying and B. You can't hear for hours afterwords lol. Give me some good old Conway Twitty lol. Unfortunately saw one of his concerts and it was the worst concert I ever went to. The man had no stage presence what so ever. Yes, it was a matter of principle.

Sometimes it is all that gets us through life.

mountain mama
08-15-2008, 12:03 PM
Im down a bit today and really glad I didn't eat that toast that was tempting me last nite :)

Red: Sorry I sort of assumed your situation. I have a habit of trying to fix everything around me.. hehe. Regradless of everything.. im thinking of you and hope it eventually works out for you :) Big hugs

08-15-2008, 12:19 PM
Shy, Jolly, Dixie--hope everyone is feeling better by today, And you too, Red.
It really sucks when your job is so stressful and there's a bunch of crap happening. I on the other hand am stressed b/c our office is so s-l-o-w....
I am not working enough hours, and so I have been looking for another office to work in for a couple days/week. But apparently everyone is slow, so no one needs anyone right now. The economy, everyone says. So the money situation is not great right now.

The positive is, we aren't destitute, and even though my hub is also slow, we have 2 decent incomes--just that now we are in CA and just bought a house, money is sooo tight, especially b/c of the higher mortgage and the high gas prices and the tax bites etc.

The unexpected benefit is--I've been able to really focus on my new diet/exercise resolutions this summer! I finally have the time to devote to making a reasonably steadily progress, and that's been keeping me optimistic and motivated. (That and this website!)
And the exercise/diet is keeping my mind off of my work woes. But I'm good at denial, anyway......

08-15-2008, 10:47 PM
Hey REd. I see you are on line. I hope you are doing ok tonight. Thinking of you.

Don't have long to post, as I have to get some rest before a 12 mile run tomorrow. Hope it goes GREAT.

Things been ok. Spazzing out a bit pre school, but ah well. i am never happy unless I can freak.

Have a good night all :wave:

Oh, and I meant to mention, I picked up a treadmill at a rummage sale for $20. See if it works and i use it to keep up my mileage this winter. IF not, Goodwill should love it :lol:

08-15-2008, 10:49 PM
Well, two challenges fell and that after I was determined to make it through another week. Oh well, I am NOT going to beat myself up. Things were awful yesterday. Bad news from the labor advisor, more trouble at work with one guy walking out. I later called him because I was very concerned. One thing led to the next. We thought he was dead when he didn't answer the phone after I went to near his place. Oh, God, it's all such a circus. Then I met him when he finally answered the phone after having fallen asleep and we went out and I joined him in drinks and we had a very long winge. So, that's the short of it and it's nothing to boast of but, heck, I did it to help him and me and the beer and cigs were the least of the pain yesterday. Now, I feel better. On the bright side, I did not pull an all-nighter. I took the trains home. I helped a friend. I stayed OFF sugar!!!! And I have not totally wasted Saturday YET. So, things are looking up! Yeah!!!!

Heh, are you all getting sick of listening to my woes??? If so, I will try to tone it down....

Where I stand on Saturday (not including Saturday)
Food and exercise journal. Ending this.
New COUNT for below four:
No booze -- fallen!
No sugar Day 15 completed no pauses of 3 left
No cigs Day 14 completed no pauses of 3 left
No processed foods -- fallen!
No alcohol current straight 0 day/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 3 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 0 day/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)


modcat -- I hear you on all the money problems. It seems more and more gets sucked up by bills, eh? But kudos to you for keeping to your exercise/diet plan. That's great!

faux -- No problem on "assuming my situation." You were thinking of me and I'm grateful for that. I am an editor and it's also a bad habit I have of clarifying You just keep doing whatever you like. It feels good to have people thinking about me! :yes: I hope you're feeling better today. Ups and downs, they are part of life. We just have to ride out the downs. The ups are easy. You see, you didn't eat something you didn't want to. That's great! Power to ya!

Shy -- I always liked Nuge. I even listen to him now as I'm a total rock fan. Cool that you went to the gig.

08-15-2008, 10:51 PM
Hi there jolly!!! :wave: Good luck on your run!! :running:


08-16-2008, 12:59 PM
Maybe because I am so new but I am NOT sick of hearing about your life and your challenges, Red! I am actually trying to write a bit more about my life but it is hard to open up about my feelings, and my life is pretty boring in respect to a lot others on these boards.

But hearing about everyone else's troubles with their life and sticking to their plans really inspires me and keeps me optimistic for the long haul. And I'm hopeful that venting someplace like these boards is helpful for everyone.

Just keep your chin up and keep plugging along Red! You are a vital presence here and I for one, would be saddened if you decided to stop involving all of us in your life. Isn't that one of the big benefits of an online community? To have some like-minded people to talk things over with, no matter where they live in this world? :hug:

mountain mama
08-16-2008, 01:01 PM
Isn't that one of the big benefits of an online community? To have some like-minded people to talk things over with, no matter where they live in this world? :hug:

I second that, Mod!

08-16-2008, 02:32 PM
Hey--just realized my avatar now says "member", not junior member! So I went on to see if i could have a ticker--seems like I can!

Just trying a post now to see if I did it right......

08-16-2008, 02:33 PM

08-16-2008, 02:34 PM
Hey! All of a sudden, it say "Senior Member"! I just like that moved to senior member? Yaay!

08-16-2008, 04:01 PM
Hurray Modcat on your ticker and senior member status. And, your ticker shows you are doing awesome! Hey Fauxtini - how are you doing?

Red. Seriously? The woman who always listens to and talks all of us off the clocktower when we are having troubles? And you are afraid we are sick of listening to your woes? Shame on you for even thinking that. And Modcat did nail it on the head. We wouldn't even be here if you didn't keep things going for us, and I know how much I NEED every one of you.

Now I feel bad that I haven't been posting very energetically :o

I did my 12 mile run this morning. I am exhausted, but mentally feel much better than after last week's 10 mile run. When I finished though, this little voice caught up to me that was saying "You don't really think you can do 12 miles do you?" And it wouldn't shut up. AFTER I had already completed the 12 miles. How messed up is that? I will survive the race in two weeks. But I realized I will really have to step up my fitness level to have any hope of surviving a full marathon.

Have a super day all :wave:

mountain mama
08-17-2008, 08:55 AM
Jolly: Hey! Congrats on your 12mile run! I'm just learning to jog... doing the couch to 5k program right now. I have a little less than 100 pounds to lose.. but im giving myself 2 years to run in a local marathon we have in my hometown each year. Im really motivated and training now. I applaude your hard work and skillz, woman! Way to go! Feel free to give me jogging/running tips anytime! hehe

I won the five pound challenge I have been working on on another thread. im relaly proud of myself. I have been working hard all august and it's all just making me want to work harder! :)

Keep it up guys!! so glad to see we are active posters! I like hearing about everyone, how they are doing each day, be it good or bad.. we are all here for one another!

08-17-2008, 09:57 AM
Good morning Fautini. Great job meeting your 5 pound challenge. That is awesome. Running tips? Starting out combining running and walking is wonderful. What has helped me the most is finding a running partner who is better than me, to push me, but cares about keeping me healthy for one, and is willing to run at my level. I couldn't do it without my sister. There are running groups out there, and most of them have all levels of runner. You can do it!

I stayed the same this week. I am really bummed, but I know it is my own fault. I was a little light on exercise this week, because I was overtired and not feeling well. Most of it however was eating. I just have not fully committed to eating healthy and in the right portions. I think I can exercise enough to just skate by on the food, and I can't. If I want to get the last 40 pounds off, I need to eat a lot better. :tantrum: Any tips will be appreciated.

Well, off to continue doing homework. I just wanted to check in quick this morning. Have a great day :wave:

mountain mama
08-17-2008, 10:16 AM
Jolly: I kind of went a different route of you when I began my healthy living plan. i focused on food first. I read lots of books and really educated myself on what certain foods can do for my body. Some suggestions of books concerning foods and supplements are; The BodySense Natural Diet by Lorna Vanderhaeghe and Living the G.I. Diet by Rick Gallop.
BOth books.. well I wouldn't have lots the 35 pounds pounds I have without them. I went in baby steps and I've learned to stay away from foods that won't benefit my body. I learned what foods will keep me from being hungry. I eat 5 times a day... 3 meals and 2 snacks. Nothing to eat after dinner and LOADS of water.

The gi diet books showed me redlight foods ( foods to stay away from), yellow light foods ( foods to eat only moderatly) and green light foods ( EAT EM!) hehe

IF you transform your eating slowly you won't feel like you are denying yourself anything.. and find foodsto take the place and stop the cravings you may have for unhealthy things.

Im just rambling now.. but let me know if you have in specific questions.. I swear I shoudl have a degree in these books.. they are all higjlighted with notes in the margins.. I woud gladly look up any info you may want!

08-17-2008, 02:03 PM
Thanks Fauxtini. It isn't that I don't know what to eat. I don't sit here and wonder "How can this be :?:" It is that I don't commit to making the changes I know I need to. portion control. Certain foods that I know trigger me to overeat - remove them from my meals until I can do portion control. Less to no processed foods. i just don't commit to making the changes, at least not consistently enough for the progress I want to see. It is making that mental switch, and finding the will power to stick with it -that is where I need the help.

Did my core and stretching, my yoga tape, and a trip to the dog park. Need to bath and groom the dogs, and get to the gym. Later all :wave:

08-17-2008, 07:17 PM
I'm barely functioning here. Don't know how much more I can take of this....still holding out on sugar, barely though...good luck everyone...sorry, just can't write now.

Where I stand on Monday (not including Monday)

The only challenge standing is...
NO sugar 17 days completed/no pauses of 3 left

No alcohol current straight 1 day/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 5 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 1 day/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-18-2008, 04:20 AM
Hey Red - sending you a hug and wishing you luck on staying above the water. I sometimes (really more like often..) feel like I'm stuck in the middle of an ocean, no land in sight, no compass or anything, and I just have to keep swimming...Treading water, anything. G-d knows I know how to swim, sometimes I just feel like letting go and drowning.. But remember honey - you know how to swim! Keep your head above the water!

I'm shaky on all challenges and am going to start over on 2 of them - ironically - the only one I've been keeping to is ME-time! I go for a walk every night and that's only for ME - not just the exercise aspect, but just the time to clear my head. I often sit down on a bench and make phone calls while out, and just enjoy the solitude. Well - serenity seems hard even to meditate on... And 3 meals? I'm a mess.

Jolly - I hear your frustration. Good for you that you only have 40 pounds more to lose! I'd love to see some of your progress pics so far! 65 pounds are surely nothing to sneeze at!

Faux - you are doing great! Hope you enjoy your vacation!

Mod - senior member in onederland. How awesome it THAT?

mountain mama
08-18-2008, 10:02 AM
I'm off for the week! See you on Friday everyone! Keep your heads up! I will try to keep my hands out of the bags of chips and other goodies at the campsite! hehe

Have a fabulous week!

08-18-2008, 05:41 PM
Where I stand on Tuesday (not including Tuesday)

NO sugar 18 days completed/no pauses of 3 left

No alcohol current straight 2 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 6 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 2 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

Thanks, Miriam. Hello faux, jolly. Things are no better here. I took off again from work yesterday. It felt so good to be away from there, but now, Tuesday morning, and I'm dreading going in. Please, do I need an alternative to this job.....

08-19-2008, 12:37 PM
Hello Red! See, you are still working the challenges and are very successful with the sugar. There is a reason they are called challenges. These are not meant to be easy. I have restarted all of mine except food journal, which is pretty easy for me anyway. I am still trying to do them--just imagine where you would be without these goals to try and hit. What with the amount of incredible job upheaval and stress you are encountering right now--if you did NOT already have these goals/challenges you made for yourself--you would be eating and drinking like crazy b/c that's what we all used to do--use the stress as a good excuse to give in and drink, or eat bad-for-us comfort food.

I truly believe b/c you started this thread, and have all of us to account to (not just yourself) you are being so much more disciplined than you would have been otherwise. Don't you see that?

Of course, we are helping each other, to lift ourselves up, to persevere. Not to scold, but just to encourage. How great is that?

08-19-2008, 04:59 PM
Flyby here -

How's everyone doing?

My DH is leaving for a week overseas - I'll be getting a welcome break....
Hope life picks up


Apple Blossom
08-19-2008, 07:06 PM
Hi everyone. We are back from our "pseudo" vacation. It was fun, although I am now in serious need of some glorious, wonderful, relaxing ALONE time. School starts tomorrow!!!:carrot: I was thinking that I would start up again YESTERDAY, but here I am today, and today is not shaping up too well either. I really have to formulate a plan, because eliminating one item from my diet and twirling around for 30 minutes probably won't be my road to success. Hmmm... Think think think. Well, I'll keep thinking. ;)
For now, to get a leg up, I'll start with my usual No Beer, 30 min exercise. And I want to start up my running program again. Shoot, if I had stuck to it in the first place I'd be keeping up with Jolly. (:yay:You are doing SO AWESOME, by the way)
Red, I really hope things are looking up for you soon. Modcat has a great point, you really are holding up quite well considering the circumstances.
Sorry, I have to run, the little one is being demanding. I'm here to serve.

08-19-2008, 10:16 PM
Where I stand on Wednesday (not including Wednesday)

NO sugar 19 days completed/no pauses of 3 left

No alcohol current straight 0 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 7 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 0 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 1 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

Ah, people, I am out of control it seems, well not really, but the drinking, the smoking has got to stop!! Yes, my sugar challenge is holding for some odd reason but the other is awful. Other people say the same, that I look good even though things are bad. I think I am merely in denial, denial that things are absolutely awful and very scary. I think really I am merely hiding. Not good. And yet, I am NOT hiding from people. I am out there more than ever even if that means drinking. I don't have to drink. I can actually meet and talk over tea. Really. And THAT realization is pretty powerful. Maybe that's why I'm not totally losing it. Despite the madness and my not really doing anything I am not despairing. Should I be?

OK, declaration time!!!! I am back on NO BOOZE, NO SMOKING for the rest of August and ALL of September. That will be a 21-plus challenge and make a new "longest ever streak" on both fronts And in order to tie this to a higher power, a larger cause/power than myself I will do it in honor of my mother, the 25th anniversary of whose death it was last Wednesday. I will do it in her honor, because I believe that my interest in health was perhaps totally due to her inflluence when I was a child and teenager. I wish so much more had been known back then. Maybe it would have allowed her to be with us so much longer. I don't know why but when I do this, tie the challenge to something outside of me and my little desires, I have SO much more strength to carry on. Ah heck, after having a cry and then some....

I am also going to come back with more challenges. You bet. When the going gets tough...

mod -- Yes, you are right. You all are out there, actual people, not just names and words on a board. And you all have your hardships, your battles. We've banded together and we're in this together. Thank you so much!

miriam -- Hello there. Glad to hear you'll be getting a break. Things WILL get better!!!

Apple -- Welcome back! Thank you too! "Eliminating one thing" and "twirling around for 30 minutes" are two pretty big things though. Don't poo-poo them. They are also the tip of what is surely a personal Everest of change, change to heightened self-respect, symbols of much, much bigger things going on inside you. You will come to do other things even if you don't (and sometimes I think it is better not to) make them specific challenges. Exercise and not drinking are your flags of commitment. Hold them high as you make your way up the mountain and plant them on the summit in victory! Hurrah!!!!

And thanks to all the others, jolly, faux, Fish, you're all too kind. :hug:


No booze 0 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 0 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

08-20-2008, 01:23 PM
Well, I need to re-start my exercise challenge, and try again. Maybe a new standard? Nah, I will just give myself 3 Pauses. I obviously cannot exercise every day, even just a walk. It's just impossible on some days.

BUT, I can exercise an average of 6 days/week. I think.
I also broke and had a marguerita yesterday at a (gasp) Mexican restaurant! Bad food choices combined with booze and no exercise--so of course the scale has to completely mess with my mind and give me a whoosh downward today!

Oh well. To start over:

No alcohol: Day 0 (3 pauses left)
Exercise everyday: Day 0 (3 pauses left)
Food journal everyday: Day 20 (no pauses)

Back on track for the healthy goals--it all works towards my ultimate goal, to lose weight, get in shape.

Shy Moment
08-20-2008, 02:45 PM
Well, today was the big day. I knew over the last couple of weeks the weight was coming on in droves. My clothes are all really tight. I went to see my knew doc today and did a new weight in. Yes, a ton of weight gain but that is ok. I know where I am. He said two more weeks of meads and then he wants me off of them to see how things are going. No problem. This too shall pass.

08-20-2008, 05:24 PM
Where I stand on Thursday (not including Thursday)

NO sugar 20 days completed/no pauses of 3 left


No booze 1 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 1 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 1 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 8 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 1 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

mod -- Best of luck on your restarted challenges. Good for you for getting right back in the game!

Shy -- Sorry for the disheartening news but how impressive of you to just take it with such determination. Good luck and I do hope for good news for you. :yes:

08-21-2008, 12:42 AM
OK, made to the end of the day! Yaay! So I'm counting.....

Exercise: day 1 (3 pauses)
Alcohol: day 1 (3 pauses)
Food Journal: day 21--now keep going....

Apple--I agree with Red, doing your "twirling" and eliminating one thing from diet are good goals and nothing to sneeze at. But I do understand the frustration of not seeing improvements fast enough to stay motivated. So adding something else to shoot for is also a good idea. Keep us posted!!

Miriam: I kinda love it if I have a day or few without DH as well--I can answer only to myself, and do whatever I want, when I want. It is an all-too-rare treat for me, unfortunately. I mean, I love him and everything, but he does demand a lot of my time and energy, lol!!!

ilana k
08-21-2008, 01:54 AM
Im gonna do no white bread 0 pauses
no sugar 2 pauses
exercise 2 pauses

08-21-2008, 11:28 AM
Hi, everyone,

just a quick post this morning - I have been eating pretty healthy, but getting no *real* exercise in.

My back has decided to protest the extra belly weight by not allowing me to be comfortable in any position for more than 30 minutes. Only 2 more months though!

Hugs to all:hug: and I will try to stop in more often.:D

Apple Blossom
08-21-2008, 01:29 PM
Hey modcat! Looks like you finished a challenge! Congrats!:yay::yay:
Good to hear from you fish! Wow, 2 more months! :bb: I'm sure you'll figure out how to get comfortable.
Red, I know you can break your record!! GO!
I didn't get around to "twirling" yesterday, but I didn't have beer. So...
30 min exercise,Day 0, 2 pauses left
No beer, Day 1, 2 pauses left

08-21-2008, 08:29 PM
Where I stand on Friday (not including Friday)

NO sugar 21 days completed/no pauses of 3 left

:cp: :cheer: :encore: :cheer: :cp:
Heh all. I just realized I finished this one!!! Wow!! I was thinking I had another day. Yippee. Now, I can indulge a bit and then hop back on the wagon. Yippee!!!!


No booze 2 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 2 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 3 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 9 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 2 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)


mod -- Congrats on the journaling challenge! :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: Wish I could get there!

Apple -- You have liftoff!!! Hurrah!! :dancer:

Fish -- Good to see you! Go easy on yourself. Eating healthy is a big thing!

ilana -- Are you new here? I can't remember if you popped in once before. In any case, welcome! :welcome2: Tell us more about yourself! :sunny: You've picked some tough challenges. Best of luck!! :yes:

08-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Hey all. Sorry - been crazy busy with work, and just driving myself insane. PMS and pre school stress. Can't wait for my cruise in 16 days :D

Half marathon is a week from Saturday. Will be slow, but doable. I hope I do well. School starts Monday. I am trying to stay calm :fr: But we all know how well I do that. :lol:

So, sorry I haven't been here. Eating is still inconsistent, but workouts are going well. I really hope to make it to the 1's soon here. I did enjoy going out and buying a few new outfits for school. That made a huge difference.

Talk more later, and good luck with new challenges. :wave:

mountain mama
08-22-2008, 05:34 PM
Red! congrats on finishing your 21 day no sugar challenge!! im proud of you!!

I went camping for a week and didn't go off plan.. not once! Im happy i didnt stray from plan.

08-22-2008, 06:15 PM
Faux! Congrats on not going off plan!!! That's impressive--I am sure I will not be able to say the same thing when I get back from Vegas--I'm just hoping to keep it real. Did you lose with all the extra exercise?

Apple--thanks for the congrats! Sounds like you are becoming newly motivated--yaay!

Red--yes, congrats on doing 21 days w/o sugar! Now have a well-deserved cookie or something.....

Exercise: 3 days
Booze: 3 days
Journal: 23 days

08-22-2008, 06:22 PM
Well, I'm feeling pretty bad due to a major sugar binge yesterday....jeez, what's the point!?!?! There was no need. I just did it and it wasn't with great food either. Total binge. Ah well. That's why I canNOT allow myself to go off these challenges. At least it was more or less planned....gotta run. :wave:

modcat, faux!! Thanks!!!


jolly -- Hi there. Sounds like you're holding your own despite the craziness. I really am impressed with you these past months. Wow! Just where are you going on your cruise, if you don't mind telling us? New outfits? That must have felt good!


Where I stand on Saturday (not including Saturday)

NO sugar 21 days completed/no pauses of 3 left


No booze 3 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 3 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 4 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 0 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 3 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

mountain mama
08-22-2008, 08:06 PM
Mod: my weigh in is tomorrow.. so we will see how the weight loss went :)

I passed out yesterday (first time in my life) and I think it was due to lack of water/too much heat.. but im taking it easy for a couple of days.. dont want to mess my body up. so no exercise yesterday or today. I dont like not exercising.. but im feeling weak... wanna see whats up before I push my body
too hard again.

Red: it's crazy how when your body isn't used to sugar.. then has some.. it just makes you feel icky in the end. Try having different prizes for finishing a goal instead( im sure you know that already) hehe but yeah.. sometimes t takes getting kinda sick from going back on something to relaize.. eww.. i dont wanna do that again! hehe
here's to another 21 days!

08-23-2008, 01:23 PM
Hey all. Hi Red. i am going to the Bahamas. The exact same cruise I did last year, and we want to enjoy more of the same. I am treating myself to some shopping, so that all of my clothes on the trip fit great. CAn't wait. You can do it with your challenges. I agree with Faux - it is amazing how what used to taste and feel so good, so quickly becomes disgusting. I am pretty much fazing out my "free" day because of that. I was eating because I could, and it was just yucky.

Faux - hope you are feeling better. Get it checked out if you are not 'kay? Nothing to mess with!

Mod - have fun in Vegas. I am really hoping to go there again next year for a marathon. JUST SAY NO TO THE BUFFETS :lol:

I am ok. Ate too much this morning, which left me sleepy and drained. I am trying to recharge my batteries while having a busy weekend, since class starts Monday. I am kind of ashamed of myself. 6 mile run today. My sister was going to run a 5k with her boyfriend, so ran the first half with me. i got to the last .75m of the second half, and my mind just said "DONE." Too hard, too much, too alone. I was feeling fine. Joints good, breathing good. But I quit and walked the last. I tried shaming myself into starting jogging again, but just didn't do it. :o Unacceptable really.

I am trying to figure out how to support a friend. She is about 15 lb overweight, and has plateaued. I keep getting these "F this I am done" emails. She is frustrated, but won't go to doctor, personal trainer, dietician to see what can be done. Hard for me, with 40-45 left to go. I want to tell her it is ok to see how much calories b****ng will burn, though that exercise plan never did much for me. I know that is not what she needs, but am not sure what is.

Have a great day all :wave:

Apple Blossom
08-23-2008, 02:07 PM
30 min exercise,Day 2, 2 pauses left
No beer, Day 3, 2 pauses left
Yes, it looks like lift off. Major hazard coming up, it's our anniversary next week end. I guess that's worth a pause.:love: It will be a bit tough figuring out how to fit in exercise, the 4 year old doesn't start school for another week.

Jolly, I've had runs like that. But you finished it! You sure have a busy life coming up! Just keep thinking about that cruise as you run the 1/2 marathon. You are going to hit the 100's BEFORE that cruise, I bet!!
Red, congrats on finishing that sugar challenge!!:cp::hat::cheer2::cheer3:
Don't sweat the bine too much, just get right back on challenge!

Faux, you should have saved the pass out for when you weigh in and can't believe how much you've lost!!! Definately take a little rest to be sure you are OK. Sounds like you have good self control with this plan (what is your plan? I can't recall) and you are headed for success!

Hey mod! I've never been to Vegas. Hope you can keep it "real". Vegas "real" might be different from the rest of the country.....

mountain mama
08-23-2008, 03:27 PM
Apple: My plan is mostly following the glycemic index. (the ) I'm staying away from as much processed stuff as possible and in general.. only eating food that will actually benefit my body. I'm being as active as possible... LOTS of walking and doing the c25k program right now. Also incorporating lots of knowledge from books such as ' the body sense natural diet'.. just being as natural as possible. It's kind of combination of the body sense natural diet and the gi diet. It's definitly a plan I can stick to. I don't have cravings and never feel like im starving/suffering in anyway.

08-23-2008, 10:30 PM
Ah, heck, yesterday I had another major binge and not just with sugar. I also ate fast food and junk food, something I never do. It was gross but I was in a state and still am (no doubt because of the food). What makes it all the more bizarre is that I know more than ever how bad the things are for me. Actually, I'm wondering if the binge was larger than before or it it only seems larger because I am so much more aware/obsessed over things.

I am really, really feeling like I cannot carry on, I am so tired of trying and trying and it just not working. In earlier years I didn't have to worry about every thing that went in my mouth. Now, it seems that if I don't, my skin worsens immediately. I really need a break from the itching, the scratching, the tornup skin. Yes, the stress is unreal and I read that that is a HUGE leech on the body's stores, so couple that with workouts and pushing myself hard every day and I, KNOW.... I am just totally run down. Something's got to give, I guess. I thought I could just concentrate on heating SUPER healthy and maybe I can, but that is the price I have to pay. I have to accept that and embrace it.

So, I guess my whining is because I haven't committed to what I know (think) is required in order to get healthy.

Sigh, I guess the only thing to do is to reassess, to clearly look at the cost for value factors in my life.

Don't mind me. I'm just beat down and in dire need of relief from so much. I'm just going to have to try to pull myself out by my bootstraps..... :^:


faux -- Are you all right? That must have been really scary to pass out! I hope you were at home or nowhere dangerous. Aren't you drinking enough water? Heat exhaustion is a very real danger here (until last week, now it's turned cool) and it makes it easier for me to be careful about drinking because that really messes up your system for a good day or two after sobering up.
Yeah, I hear you on the picking better things as rewards for finishing a goal. It seems both logical that I would reach for sugar after abstinence and illogical if the point was to be healthier. I guess there too I have to revisit the WHYS of my challenges.
Well, good luck on your weigh-in!!!

jolly -- Your cruise sounds wonderful! Sigh. Good for you for giving yourself this present. I agree on the free days. The original challenge thread didn't allow for them but I feel they are often key to getting going. Still, I think that a final objective of no pauses is important (except on certain challenges not really conducive to the "everyday" structure). Sounds like you hit a mental toughness wall there with your run. You have ALREADY toughened up incredibly. I guess it's just another level to notch up, just like anything else. It seems like there is no end I guess but you are into NEW levels, new ground! Though usually it's not a good idea to compare, just compare the you today with the you a year ago and give yourself a pat on the back!

Apple -- Congrats on another day notched. It's always tough in the beginning. Good to plan ahead for those difficult times. You could always try the unheard of and attempt to celebrate without booze. Over these past weeks I have truly surprised myself withe the things I have done...gone into bars and NOT ordered alcohol...ordered tea or juice...and NOW, ordered hot tea over iced because the doctor advises not to chill the body. Some of the most surprising aspects have simply been that I was ALLOWED to do these things, that people didn't push me to drink or ask me to, that I could have long conversations with people AND that the others would continue drinking even if I didn't. Strange, very makes me wonder why I was thinking things would be otherwise. That said, I know there is one place I cannot go to and not drink or not be hassled to drink. I had tried many times and they literally ignore me and put the brew on the table before me (I drink there for free). Bizarre or what?
Anyhow, sorry for the ramble. as for your exercise, just notch it way down and do things you can do with a 4-year-old. A big part of the game is mental and just showing up, even if it means some days you can't do much at all. at least you tried, at least you were prepared. I can think of a lot of Pilates you could do with a toddler around. ;)


Where I stand on Sunday (not including Sunday)


Stay tuned....


No booze 4 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)
No smoking 4 days completed/no pauses allowed (started Aug. 20)

No alcohol current straight 5 days/longest straight thus far June 28-August 3 = 36 days
No sugar current straight 0 days/longest straight was 39 days (July 1-Aug. 9)
No cigs current straight 4 days/longest straight was 38 days straight July 1-Aug. 8
No processed foods current straight 0 day/longest straight 40 days (July 1-Aug.10)

08-23-2008, 11:03 PM
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08-24-2008, 01:32 AM
Hi All

I'm totally nuts. I went away for the weekend to a friend's house to avoid hosting my in-laws (my DH is away - remember? he wanted my in-laws to come WHILE HE WAS AWAY- AARGH) The only way I could get out of it was by not being here. Sheesh - I need to learn to be more assertive.

On Friday I was totally stressed - I don't usually work on Fridays and it's my day to sleep, but I had to go to work and then get home and deal with all the kids and go to my friend's house (no CAR!!) and I was sooooo stressed out that I ate 3 chocolate bars!!! Okay - they were mini ones - but I haven't touched that kind of stuff for 12 weeks! And it was all downhill from there.. Overate Friday night, had junk this morning, Heck - I need some support. I'm so frustrated. I thought while my DH was away -I'd have some time to get the house together and maybe even a day or 2 to myself in the morning - to just laze around. I need a break so badly. And when he's here - he's unemployed and always in the house and makes me nuts. But my schedule at work is so hectic for these days while he's gone that there's no chance for anything of the sort.
Sorry for the vent :)

08-24-2008, 03:45 AM
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