Carb Counters - LC Lolita Chat June 23-29

I can't believe this. It's almost 5 pm my time and no one has started a new thread yet!

SIC-yes, had my thyroid checked. that's not the problem. I actually suspect the sleep deprivation is part of it and the other part is me not being able to consistently keep my calories under control. I haven't gone on any sugar bingeing but I can't stay under 2000 every day for an entire week. I'm roasting a boston butt roast for dinner. I'll have left overs for the whole week which is good because I go back on call on Thurs. this should be my last full week at one stretch.

Had a pretty good weekend. I went to a yoga workshop on Sat. morning for a few hours. This is the first one I've been too. It was a little too long without a break. Then yesterday I painted all the quarter round moulding for my new floor. The back of my neck got sunburned. I remembered the sunscreen everywhere else-oops! I also cleaned up/out my garage while I was waiting for it to dry in between batches so no my garage is all clean too and it was hot as **** here yesterday (well, really everyday this time of year).

Good news, Kobe's poop came back negative for any kind of worms.

I guess that's all the news from this part of the world.

Where is everybody? I did stop by yesterday and looked for the thread, but I was rushing so I assumed it had been started and I missed it.
Petra, I gotta say I'm not sure how to comment on
"Good news, Kobe's poop came back negative."
Just kidding, of course it's good news. Sounds like you're on the path to solving all dog health issues!

Over the weekend I made an eggplant roll up recipe that I found somewhere on line, then last night I had lots of stomach issues. I don't know if it was the eggplant or if I just have a bug. But the truth is, I didn't like the eggplant that much and it wasn't really low carb by the time you used tomato sauce and three kinds of cheese. I have another eggplant in the frig, but I'll have to find another way to use it. In my past life, I used to bread it, fry it and then layer it with cheese and sauce. But that was a lot of work and now I can't eat the breading. For me, the key with eggplant is to cook it to death. It's a texture thing, I guess. The roll ups left the eggplant pretty solid. hmmmm, what to do? what to do?

I wasn't very good over the weekend. We did our summer thing- a kind of pot luck on the lake. I made hamburger patties, cole slaw and the mock pototo salad with cauliflower, but the other two couples both brought desserts and one had pasta salad. So I could only eat my own food. (Except I ended up "sampling" a few chips and drinking beer) I also had celery sticks and dip instead of chips. I don't want to be a total party pooper, but it bothers me that I have to bring everything for myself and still provide enough slaw and burgers for everyone. (no one ate the mock potato salad). Next time I'll have to get involved in the planning (DH usually contacts the other families and never tells anyone what to bring) I guess I can tell them to please not bring dessert at all. Or is that too mean?

It seems I made an eggplant parm thing with wheat bran that was relatively low carb and was pretty good.

We're having JCAHO visit at work so everyone is stressing out. That's the organization that accredits hospitals. They visit about every 3 years I think. Their visits used to be announced but now they just show up as a surprise. I'm hoping they visit my unit on Thurs. while I"m at the nursing home and I get to dodge their inquisition.

I slice the eggplant thin and fry the crap out of it in coconut oil. Makes it much mor tasty when I pile the other stuff on and put it in the oven.

OK. had a scare last night. Dizzy with near faint at a meeting. I was at the doc today and we pretty much ruled it...not eating anything for a couple of days. It literally left my mind as food tends to give the tummy willies for the past few weeks. Thank God I had been pounding the water as otherwise I might have passed out while driving around in this horrendous No.Cal. Smoke. Ugh.

Hugs

SC

Calmie, you need to eat! I can almost always eat. Even when my stomach's messed up, I think all it needs is a little food! That's part of my problem. I have family a little north of San Francisco I wonder if they're getting the smoke. I can't think what county they're in, but near Santa Rosa.
Petra, good luck dodging the accreditors! Glad I don't have to worry about that.
I'm on my way home to my uncooked eggplant. I may stop and buy some coconut oil though. Haven't had that in the house lately and I know it's supposed to be good for you. DH and DD are still eating the lasgana and I made both burgers and chicken to have in the fridge for leftovers. Why is it when I'm in the mood to cook, there's no one to eat it? If I was rushing and had no time to cook, I'd have an empty fridge. Actually, that kind of makes sense, doesn't it?

sc- how scary! i am having a hard time in the smoke right now too. icky!

lynnar - i grew up in santa rosa! my mom said they are getting the smoke!

Hope you are all staying safe there in California.
Scalmie-you need to eat. That is not the way to lose weight but I 'm sure you know that already.

I had my inquisition today. I have no idea how we did but I guess we'll find out. At least it's over now.

I go back on call tomorrow for the next week. It's my last time of having to take a whole week at a time so hopefully it won't be too painful. I think I'm also going to go join the other gym during this next week so I can start doing my cardio too. I also think I'm going to move to the Sugar Shakers forum next month because I'm a little too confusing to newcomers here. They are trying to make it more open to people doing low GI diets of all kinds and that is really where my eating plan fits right now.

Hi All: Ahhhh. The not eating was actually not intentional. I didn't even realize it until the Dr. asked what I was eating and I pulled out the food diary and found I had not really eaten since last Friday evening. I'm pretty religous about logging food but I have such an upset stomach from the meds that it really went out of my mind. Of course water had too so I was dehydrated also. How weird that I have often prayed for having absolutely no appetite and then it happened. A good example of being careful what you wish for. Today has been woeful also. Some flaxseed bread and cheese at breakfast and an attempt at dinner that was abortive. I tried to eat the insides of a philly cheese steak sammy but it made me get the stomach willies. I'm heating some of the homemade chicken soup I made yesterday (chicken and veggies no noodles) which I WILL eat between now (8:00 here) and 9 p.m. If I don't get it down I will do a "no wire hangers" thing on myself and make myself try again at 10 and again at 11. This is sooooo strange. I did get 4 16 ounce waters down today though and did not have any iced coffee. Decaf or otherwise.

Petra, I hate to ask for medical advice but is it common for anti depressants and anti anxiety to totally remove one's appetite? This is making me little nuts. I can't believe that my only problem all this time has only been carbs so I cut those out and then (unrelated) this happens to me and I have a sudden aversion to food. Lord. I have never had food addiction or food aversion problems and was thankful that it wasn't part of my fat problem. Now I've freakin' somehow introduced what I think may turn into an eating disorder into my life. O.K. I'm probably exaggerating but seriously...it is beginning to worry me. We all want to lose weight but right now, even though I'm still quite fat... I feel like I'm walking along dribbling fat behind me...with little or no effort. This is not right. I actually did not mind slow weight loss even with staying on induction since January but this is beginning to freak me out.

I have no ego so all of your comments are appreciated.

xo
The sorry mess called SC.

There are only a couple of medications that tend to curb appetite. Unfortunately, most of the meds we prescribe tend to increase appetite which is a problem. Since I don't know what you are on it is difficult to say. I thought you said there was a thyroid problem. If you are hyperthyroid, you will definately lose weight without trying although most people with that problem still eat.

Calmie, I'm not a doctor, but I can diagnosis you as NOT "a sorry mess." From my completely uninformed point of view, it's gotta take a few trials and errors to balance all the drugs and all the stress. You may be making it worse if you worry too much about it. Just take it a day at a time. Do what the doctor says and make sure what you eat is healthy- like chicken soup with veggies! And if you end up losing weight, think of if as a nice fringe benefit, not your goal right now. Right now your goal should be balance, but if you happend to balance out a healthier weight, that's gotta be a little perk. Good job on the water! A little chicken soup and a lot of water has got to be a good thing.
Petra, don't go to the Sugar Shakers Forum. We need all the posters we can get. We're shrinking here!
So Freddie, I guess I need to call my family. I didn't realize they were getting smoke. It's Sonoma County! It was buggin me that I couldn't remember. I've been there a thousand times.
So I finally had to admit that what DH told me on Monday is true. The eggplant is upsetting my stomach. I kept telling him it was virus, but every night this week I've eaten eggplant roll ups and every night I get a major upset stomach around 9 p.m. I had to give up eggs this year because they were causing the same symptoms. DH said, it's probably the egg part of the eggplant, but I'm pretty sure he was joking. A little weird though. Of course, it could be the cheese. No idea what I'll do with the other eggplant I have in the fridge. I don't enjoy the stomach upset and it's not going to cause any weight loss. I don't actually throw up or anything. Just suffer silently (well, maybe not silently).

Lovely Lolitas!!!! How is everyone doing? I had a good day today. Met with some clients on a project (yes in the smokey foothills) in the a.m. and then threw a little party at work. The big cheese scuttled off to pebble beach without telling me in advance so I conducted our first, "While the Cat's Away" day. The dress code was null and void for the day and at noon everyone had hot dogs, popcorn, smores and candy and I had them all in the large conference room watching that Chuck and Larry comedy. Of course the office doors were locked for two hours and the phones were forwarded to the emergency service. I had an "Office closed from 12-2 for a special training event" on the front door.

Fun was had by all and it helped boost morale a little in these trying times. I think next month I'm going to have a Halloween in July party for them and we will watch a slasher flick, eat pumpkin pie and have ice cream.

I certainly ate today. I had a hot dog, with a bun! It was yummy. Stuck to water the rest of the day and will enjoy round two of the chicken soup tonight.

Where are auddie, sb and fay? I'm missing you!!!!

Hope all is well with all my ladies.

ox
SC

:hug:scalmie, lynnie & petra!:hug:

I'm off to the Doc again - still retaining fluid - bbl!:)

Hi ladies, thought I'd drop in and see how everyone is doing. I'm still on the boards but admittedly not as much as I need to be. Been very busy since DH and I just roofed my MIL's house. (that sucked and I'll never roof again). My weight has been all over the place from down 10 lbs. to UP by 10 lbs. So, I'm back in the lowered carb mode. Trying to get a handle on things before my gain is permanent.

Today is Day 5 of being OP and keeping my carbs around 20-30 grams per day. It is challenging but I am doing it. I haven't weighed in a week, but feel like my tummy is flatter and my clothes are starting to fit better again.

Do any of you know of any good LC smoothie recipes? I quickly get tired of eating eggs everyday.

I no longer have my Atkins book and wish I did. I think re-reading it at this point would help me. I've been to every nearby bookstore and can't find it. In fact I'm having a hard time finding any LC foods anymore at my grocer. Does anyone else find this to be a problem?

If some of you remember, my son is in Iraq til next April. I miss him terribly and I think my stress has added to my weight fluctuations. (well that plus several family weddings this yr. where I indulged in way too much cake and junk food).

My DD, Lacy, is facing 2 surgeries very soon. One on her tummy and the other on the major vessels that lead to her heart. She is 16 and will be taking her driving test on Monday. Life for her has been difficult and it breaks my heart to see her having such a rough time both emotionally and physically.

My health has been OK lately. My biggest problem has been horrible night sweats that keep me from getting much sleep. But, I have noticed this week that with lowering my carbs that I'm having fewer night sweats. I don't know if that makes sense or not, but I'll take it.

It's good to catch up with you fine ladies again.

ahhhh lily,lily,lily!:hug: How FAB to see you!:carrot: By cyber cosmic coincidence,:dizzy:, I had the nite shift wide awakes last nite and was looking at your b4 and afters - rereading your entire inspirational story!!!!!!!:o:o Now POOF - here you are!!!:D

Your son stays in my prayers and will now add Lacy (just was chuckling at her Posts on where to find your clothes she borrowed - IN THE LAUNDRY LOL:D!!!)

I'm a fluid retention MONSTER suddenly - heart checked out fine Thank God . . . running tests on kidneys presently.

We're getting ready for a trip to Roller Coaster World in Sandusky Ohio right now . . . definitely NOT takingmy "water pill" that day!;)

Happy Saturday Lovely Lolitas!!!!:carrot:

aud, so good to see you. We're having terrific storms here today and the lightening is about to run me off the computer.

OMG< I responded in the Atkins Good or Bad thread. Probbly should have kept my mouth shut! LOL, but you know me and that isn't possible.

I laughed when you reminded me of Lacy's post. My clothes are most likely in her floor instead of in her laundry basket, LOL. Right now though most of my clothes won't fit her. She is depressed and is gaining wt. rapidly. Hmm, maybe 3 bowls of ice cream after dinner isn't helping her.

Thanks for remembering my son. I e-mail him every day and he posts back when he gets a chance. I want him to know I think about him every day.

I'm glad your heart checked out fine and hope your kidneys are fine as well.

Have fun at roller coaster world and maybe wear a Depends, JK, LOL.

Ah, this menopause is driving me totally nuts!

Crumbs, Lily - much love to you and yours. I knew your boy was overseas but I didn't realise your daughter was under all this stress too - that's rotten.

Well, just 3 1/2 more days of teaching before the summer holidays - HURRAH! I'm staying in Bangkok, but I've got a friend visiting in a fortnight or so, so that'll be nice. I've just been to the Marriot, which is rather lovely and on the river (you take a little rice barge-style free boat to the hotel, very The King and I), for a Farewell Jazz Brunch with some friends who are leaving at the end of this academic year. The food's quite fabulous, but it's easy enough to stay on plan (well, okay - I had a few glasses of wine, but otherwise I was a good girl). Although the desserts are TO DIE FOR - but, really, I find that now that I'm off the carbs my reaction to the array of luscious pavlovas and chocolate cakes and ice cream sundaes and chocolate fountains etc etc etc is more of an intellectual one than a gut-level one. I mean, they look gorgeous, and I know it's all very good quality fare, but I don't feel like I'm denying myself in filling a wee plate with blueberries, raspberries, cantaloup and brie. I'm choosing food that I thoroughly enjoy, that will help me to carry on losing weight. Yay! (Ditto yesterday - I went to the Canada Day Celebrations at the British Club and thoroughly enjoyed my dinner, and wasn't at all tempted by the array of desserts, or indeed the slices of Canada Day Cake that we were all handed.) It just isn't tempting, and neither is the array of yummy breads on offer at each event. Which is a SHOCKING shift in perspective, and I have to say I don't think it's will power, or at least not will power alone. It's just that I feel SO much better, and I notice the spike in my blood sugar/the whole sense of high-and-crash that I get even from the modest amount of sugar in a cube of high-cocoa chocolate...and it DOESN'T make me feel good. So that makes these gorgeous desserts very much less tempting than they would have been back in the day.

OMG< I responded in the Atkins Good or Bad thread. Probbly should have kept my mouth shut! LOL, but you know me and that isn't possible.


Yeah, I saw you did! Honestly, I keep trying to make myself step away from that thread because it's CLEARLY not a constructive discussion, and not going to go anywhere...and yet it exerts this car crash fascination, and I find myself getting sucked back. But I don't think it's bringing out my more admirable qualities at all; it feels a bit like being engaged in a duel of wits with an unarmed opponent.

I conducted our first, "While the Cat's Away" day. The dress code was null and void for the day and at noon everyone had hot dogs, popcorn, smores and candy and I had them all in the large conference room watching that Chuck and Larry comedy. Of course the office doors were locked for two hours and the phones were forwarded to the emergency service. I had an "Office closed from 12-2 for a special training event" on the front door.

Wow, S'calm - how awesome are you? I wish my boss would give us that kind of Inset Day! But, honey, you need to make quite sure that you're eating stuff, or at least having mild, nutritious soups if your meds are playing silly buggers with your insides. Starvation is NOT for the win.

Honestly, I keep trying to make myself step away from that thread because it's CLEARLY not a constructive discussion, and not going to go anywhere...and yet it exerts this car crash fascination, and I find myself getting sucked back. But I don't think it's bringing out my more admirable qualities at all; it feels a bit like being engaged in a duel of wits with an unarmed opponent.

Which is why I've resolved to not respond anymore. The thread was not bringing out my best qualities (exasperation, anyone?) and so I'm just going to leave it alone.

I made the mistake of trying to talk some sense into them over on that thread myself. It would have been easier to teach a cat how to talk!!!;)

It's a shame, it really is. I'm all about people finding the woe that works for them - we're all different, and we have different metabolisms, different emotional/psychological relationships with food, different lifestyles. I do recommend low carb as something THAT WORKS FOR ME, and has been effective for a lot of people. But if someone is finding low fat works for them, then yay them.

Life is just too darned short to be mean-spirited about this. We all deserve success, and I truly hope all of us at 3FC, in whatever forum, on whatever woe, reach our goals.

I have also decided to stay away from that thread. It was getting my blood to boiling and I don't need anymore stress in my life. It just irks me to no end when someone tells me that the way I choose/chose to eat is wrong. I want to say "take a look at my friggin before Atkins and after pic's and tell me which person looks healthier". I'm an intelligent person and can weigh the risks and choose a plan that works for me. In fact, I'm doing low-carb right now and it's my perogative. It works for me. If others don't like me doing it, I can't understand why. I'd never in a million years start ragging on their choice of how they lose or maintain weight. It's simply not my business. Sorry for the rant.

I did get a new e-mail from my son last night. He is sending me pic's and a video of the "man-camp" he is staying at in Baghdad. If my DD will help me figure out how to put them on 3FC's, I will share them. It's nothing political, just pic's of my son and his Army buddies.

My eating has been POP this week. Still haven't weighed myself, but I know I'm doing the right thing.

Today's exercise may be just going out in this hot sun and weeding my garden. With all the rain/storms we've had the garden is a mess.

It's weird looking here in flooded MO too lily . . . better get off here myself!

Poor Lace . . . glad she's "ice-creaming up" until she gets all this surgery behind her!

What about your Psycho-Neighbor with the Psycho-Dog? Hope the deranged mutt has been blasted by now!

Smoothies: I've got a giganto container of "Body Fortress - 100% Premium Whey Protein - Vanilla" that's about $15 @ Wally-World. I whip a scoop with crushed ice and water in my trusty Magic Bullet.

Variations - splashes of added depending on my mood:

coffee
Davinci Caramel
heavy cream
spoon of LC yogurt

I do better if I force something down right when my nite shift butt wakes up!:^:

Gotta go find Lily-Atkins Thread b4 the storm hits . . . Have A Great Sunday Lolitas!:carrot:

Lordy: See what I miss when I've been away a few days!!!! I had to find the thread in question and read it. Certainly got heated. Yikes. Anywho...LILY!!!! I'm so glad to hear from you. I am sending positive mojo Lacy's way and would love to have news about your son. Fay, you sound like you are just loving your change in perspective. It's wierd how your way of thinking can change over the course of six months isn't it?

Well, DD9 is off to a birthday party, the house is clean for a change and DH just headed out to pick up some In and Out burgers protien style (lettuce wrapped instead of buns). I'm thinking of having a little nap here HOWEVER, the anti-depressant they have me on tends to amp me out a bit so I guess I'm going to have to find something constructive to do. I just got back from an Auddie inspired trip to the dollar store where I picked up some essentials that I normally pay more for at the grocery store (TP, toothpaste, paper towels, ketchup, etc.).

Hope everyone is having a lovely day. For those that got sucked in and upset the the editorializing on Atkins I vote you put it out of your mind and stick with what you know works for you and makes you feel good. I love the supportive side of the threads and just don't get the charge some folks do out of controversy. It's too much like listening to talk radio shows when I don't agree with the point of view. I switch the channel. I think I might be part Ostrich. tee hee. Love to all.

ox
SC

I have also decided to stay away from that thread. It was getting my blood to boiling and I don't need anymore stress in my life. It just irks me to no end when someone tells me that the way I choose/chose to eat is wrong. I want to say "take a look at my friggin before Atkins and after pic's and tell me which person looks healthier". I'm an intelligent person and can weigh the risks and choose a plan that works for me. In fact, I'm doing low-carb right now and it's my perogative. It works for me. If others don't like me doing it, I can't understand why. I'd never in a million years start ragging on their choice of how they lose or maintain weight. It's simply not my business. Sorry for the rant.

Very well put. The whole thing, being ragged on about my choice for myself to get healthy was getting my blood boiling too. And then to have my derision about how a specific plan (low fat but with carby foods) would affect *my* body turned into a mock for the plan (low-fat) itself, as if I didn't understand my own feelings, intentions and words when typing...grrr. I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE TWIST MY WORDS. Sorry...that's something my ex used to do and it's probably one of my biggest pet peeves.

Okay, new resolve: I won't even go read the thread again at all. Chant: I will not cater to trolls. I will not cater to trolls. I will not cater to trolls.

I hope everyone is having a wonderful day today. I'm heading to the gym in about an hour as my exercise partner is running late today. I'm hoping to squeeze in 2 hours today.

Okay, new resolve: I won't even go read the thread again at all. Chant: I will not cater to trolls. I will not cater to trolls. I will not cater to trolls.

Healthy decision, snapless! (I kept saying to myself: "Do not feed the energy creature!")

And, yes, I found it quite startling that Drina misunderstood what you were saying - the fact that you used the words "hungry and waspish" was the huge clue that you were referring to YOUR OWN response to carbs, because that simply doesn't describe Joe Public's standard response to eating a low fat baked potato. That was, to me, quite clearly a reflection on how that food impacts on you personally - I mean, in my case the carbs screw with my energy levels, make me feel crappy and bloated and make me feel hungry again half an hour later, so I overeat, but they don't make me feel bad-tempered.

But I think she sincerely misunderstood - I don't think she's playing mindgames. Actually, I think that part of the problem there is that she doesn't know you (or us, for that matter), and is assuming the worst. Which is very unfortunate, because I do think we all conducted ourselves pretty darned well, and nobody was evangelical about Low Carb as a One True Plan for everyone. I'd just started to write another reply to the thread, and then decided that it was just futile to keep engaging with it, and I should step away. (Whether or not I'll manage to stick to that is another question - fingers crossed!)

Hi SC, good to see you again too. I'll try to keep everyone informed on how my DS is doing and Lacy's upcoming surgeries.


snapless, I also decided that I won't stoop to their level and I won't go back to that thread again.


Hi Fay, good seeing you again too.

So today's lunch was my cheat meal for the week. We had chinese food and I'm sure I blew my LC plan out of the water. But, dinner tonite was back on-plan and I intend to stay there again. Then I spent a few hrs. outside cleaning up the yard and weeding my garden. Ah, nothing like a little guilt exercise.

Aud, the neighbors got rid of the Pit Bull. I don't know for sure how. But, after it had DH cornered in his jeep with it growling and jumping on the vehicle and DH calling them and tellling them he was gonna shoot it, they got rid of it. It never bit me, but it did chase me and cause me to fall on my front walk-way and scrape all the skin off my left thigh and calf. I was crying and a hysterical mess.