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onesullengurl
06-12-2008, 03:18 PM
I was just wondering if anyone has tried using this and what are your thoughts on it ?... I know Diet pills in general are just a scam, waste of time and unsafe most of the time ... but this one just seems different to me :shrug: it is FDA approved .. I don't know but I think the none of other ones were .. they have a forum on their site where there is a lot of people that have posted with victory! when you sign up to it you get a web page full of dieting information and tips and your own "plan" to go along with taking the pill ... so they are encouraging healthy eating, exercising and lifestyle changes along with it rather than claiming their pill is just magic and you don't have to do anything .... and the best part is I can jsut buy it in walmart or targets at my own discretion without actually having to get stuck on a automatic shipping plan sort of thing ( I HATE those ) I dunno I am just trying to look for something like my alli or WW online .. maybe both lol... I just need a concrete plan that can encourage me and that I can stick too because I am horrible at this dieting thing .. I just get overwhelmed and sick of "planning "things out for myself .. I want something to follow ...

so.... anyways was just wondering if anyone has tried it and or has any personal experiences or anything ....

thanks :)


astigmatistic
06-12-2008, 04:15 PM
Losing weight is a lot of hard work, there is no easy way out of it.

If you're already eating healthy, I don't see a pill helping you anyways, espeicially one to block fat? You still have to exercise, also.

If you already have to eat healthy and exercise...I say save your money because the pill won't do much.

Secondly, there is no magic pill that you can just take and the pounds will melt off with you doing no work.

Lots of hard work and determination!

CandyKisses0204
06-12-2008, 04:16 PM
im searching around for you but there was a forum about a month or so ago about alli and the concesus was it worked but there are all kinds of nasty side effects (ie-anal leakage) doesnt sound too appealing to me


CandyKisses0204
06-12-2008, 04:25 PM
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115217

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139053&highlight=alli

Hope these help out a little

CountryGurl
06-12-2008, 04:26 PM
gave me the squirts

nelie
06-12-2008, 04:32 PM
There used to be a group here that posted a monthly thread but I don't see it.

I looked into Alli when it first came out, to see what the real effects are and they are minimal. The amount of calories that Alli absorbs is maybe 100 per day (depending on how much fat you eat). 100 calories per day translates to nearly 3000 calories per month which translates to about 10 lbs per year.

The real power of Alli though is to 'force' you onto a low fat diet. You can defeat the pill easily by eating high calorie, low fat foods. (ie you could eat sugar all day long). The way it forces you to eat a low fat diet is by what Alli/Xenical users affectionately call "TE" or treatment effects. Basically, you can have anal leakage. Some people carry around a change of clothes or even wear pads/diaper to help in case of an embarrassing accident.

So some people can use Alli as a tool to help keep them on a low fat diet while others prefer to follow a low fat diet on their own. I personally follow a low fat diet and really think it is the way to go but you can do it without a pill.

Tammy
06-13-2008, 12:01 PM
I used Alli last summer, and I lost 15 pounds. I did stick to the allotted amount of fat because I didn't want to have any of those treatment effects. I had a minor one, and it was my own fault. I also stuck to the amount of calories that were recommended. Yes, you can stick to a low fat diet on your own, but some of us (ME!!) needed that extra help to do it. I exercised while doing it, but I was already exercising at the time. I stopped using it when my husband became ill in the fall, and everything kind of fell apart around here. I have not gained any of those 15 pounds back! I have only lost a couple more since then.

I'm in my 50's, in the early stages of menopause, so I think the Alli really helped me.

Lilly83
06-17-2008, 10:46 AM
i use alli. not all the time 3 times a day. but usually once a day or so.

yes there are side effects. i woudl avoid alli if you are goign to be eating a high fat meal deffinatly. however if you stick to the 15g of fat per meal you will be fine.

i think everyone has to find what works for them when it comes to loosing weight. i have lost about 5 lbs in the last 3 weeks. i can't say that alli did it. i excercise, play volleyball, do hot yoga. TRY my hardest to eat healthy, but have gave up on strict dieting as i want to be healthy mentally as well as physically.

mskrystalg
06-17-2008, 11:29 AM
hello all, today is my 3rd day on Atkins and I'm also using Alli. I know they say not to use it but nobody gives me a reason why I shouldn't. I'm a stay at home mother so I'm not worried if I do get the "treatment effects" which so far I have not had any. I'm not limiting my fat intake at all. However I do eat smart proteins like eggs, chicken and cheese. I'm going to weigh in on Monday but I know I have lost already a few pounds. In the past I have lost 40 lbs on Atkins alone. I just had a baby and I hope the combo will help me lose the weight faster. I working toward 15+ a month. I'll post my weight loss on Monday.

madalinax
06-24-2008, 02:29 PM
Hi!

I just started taking the Alli, and so far I had no problems. Well, today is my second day. yesterday though, I ate one slice of pizza, and I was expecting something "unexpected", but nothing happened. Nothing at all! I did not even have a bowel movement since taking Alli, so I could see some grease going out. Right now I am having a cofee, to see if this is going to have an laxative effect on me. Oh, yeah! I just came from the restroom. I have seen very little orange oily stuff. And if that pizza from yesterday was not fat enough....

I have been on diet taking prescripted medication-Phendimetrazine, and at the beginning it worked very good for me. The first month I have lost 13 pounds, the second 5, the third 9, after this I was losing 1 or 2 pounds a month,and that was it. I lost a total of 35 pounds. Than, I could not lose any more weight. Actualy I struggled keeping it off, and I was gaining and losing, and so on. In the past few months I craved over peanut butter, something I did not eat for 8 years. Because of that, and because I was checking my weight everyday and getting desperate seeing it going up, I packed up 15 pounds. I have tried the same medication, but it doesn't work for me anymore, and it was giving me headeaches. When I stopped using it, I felt exausted, with no energy. I just don't want to use this anymore. Than I bought a stupid lie, called Removyl, and after receiving it I decided to dosome research on it. Too late! Now I have bee investigating about Alli, and decided to get it. I will let you know about the results. Right now, my weight is 155. I would really like to get to 130, because I want to get pregnant in September, and I do not want to double myself the way I did with my first baby. I went from 130 to 205. :o

I hope that this will work for me, and even though it says it does not work on the brain, but on the dygestive system, I don't feel that hungry anymore. Well, as long as it work, I will not ask myself questions. :)

marbleflys
06-26-2008, 02:44 PM
You make me want to ressurect my Xenical prescription.....(that's the 120mg version) i kept refilling the pills because they were covered by my insurance and cost $5.00 a month...but I did not use them. I guess they are about 6-8 months old.

I was very successful with this drug when it first came out.....

I now have a few things working against me (age, menopause, Insulin resistance)....i really have to fight for every ounce i take off...makes me want to throw in the towel, even with my exercise routine.

keep me posted...thanks!

Slim81
06-26-2008, 10:38 PM
I have used these pills and found them to work. I have heard many success stories from them. You will experience some bad side effects if you do not follow the diet plan, which is 15 grams of fat per meal.:D

aphil
06-27-2008, 08:19 AM
Basically, alli will prevent your body from absorbing up to 1/4 of the fat that you eat, if you average 15 grams a meal.

Some of the cons to this, however...if you like math:

~If you eat a low fat diet, there are going to be many meals where you do not eat near the 15 fat gram mark. Let's say that you eat breakfast, and it has 8 grams of fat. If alli prevents you from absorbing 1/4 of that...then alli will make you excrete 2 grams of fat. 2 grams of fat equals 18 calories. (fat has 9 calories per gram.)

18 calories.

18 calories.

18 calories.

Let's say that you absolutely DO adhere to exactly 15 grams of fat per meal. That is 35 fat grams per day. If alli makes you excrete 1/4 of that, then alli would be removing 8.75 fat grams a day from your body.

That equals 78 calories.

78 calories a day removed by alli, and this is if you are eating the entire 15 grams of fat allowed per meal.

78 calories!

Now, since it takes 3500 less calories to lose a pound, this means that it would take 44 days of being perfectly on plan, for the alli to give you a pound extra of weight loss. (You would have already lost some weight though, from the calorie/fat controlled diet...not from the alli.)

So, you would essentially be paying $50 a month, to lose an extra pound every 44 days....

To me, it would be much cheaper (and healthier) to just eat 78 less calories a day, yes? No side effects, and no potential health risks!

:)

In my opinion, because of the mathematical facts...the reason that people are losing weight with alli is NOT because of the drug. They are losing weight because they are adhering to a reduce calorie, reduced fat diet! The alli is basically the "scare" keeping them on plan...they stay on plan to avoid the side effects with the bowels. It is their diet that is causing the weight loss...not so much the drug. Unless you count that 1 pound every 44 days....

full of grace
06-27-2008, 12:41 PM
Basically, alli will prevent your body from absorbing up to 1/4 of the fat that you eat, if you average 15 grams a meal.

Some of the cons to this, however...if you like math:

~If you eat a low fat diet, there are going to be many meals where you do not eat near the 15 fat gram mark. Let's say that you eat breakfast, and it has 8 grams of fat. If alli prevents you from absorbing 1/4 of that...then alli will make you excrete 2 grams of fat. 2 grams of fat equals 18 calories. (fat has 9 calories per gram.)

18 calories.

18 calories.

18 calories.

Let's say that you absolutely DO adhere to exactly 15 grams of fat per meal. That is 35 fat grams per day. If alli makes you excrete 1/4 of that, then alli would be removing 8.75 fat grams a day from your body.

That equals 78 calories.

78 calories a day removed by alli, and this is if you are eating the entire 15 grams of fat allowed per meal.

78 calories!

Now, since it takes 3500 less calories to lose a pound, this means that it would take 44 days of being perfectly on plan, for the alli to give you a pound extra of weight loss. (You would have already lost some weight though, from the calorie/fat controlled diet...not from the alli.)

So, you would essentially be paying $50 a month, to lose an extra pound every 44 days....

To me, it would be much cheaper (and healthier) to just eat 78 less calories a day, yes? No side effects, and no potential health risks!

:)

In my opinion, because of the mathematical facts...the reason that people are losing weight with alli is NOT because of the drug. They are losing weight because they are adhering to a reduce calorie, reduced fat diet! The alli is basically the "scare" keeping them on plan...they stay on plan to avoid the side effects with the bowels. It is their diet that is causing the weight loss...not so much the drug. Unless you count that 1 pound every 44 days....

Loves me a good math problem!

This is wonderful, Aphil. So totally makes sense, when you put it this way!!

(I've not tried Alli, but I admit their currently-running ad campaign sure makes me consider it. Luckily, your post put it REALLY into perspective.)

:carrot:

onesullengurl
06-27-2008, 12:53 PM
Basically, alli will prevent your body from absorbing up to 1/4 of the fat that you eat, if you average 15 grams a meal.

Some of the cons to this, however...if you like math:

~If you eat a low fat diet, there are going to be many meals where you do not eat near the 15 fat gram mark. Let's say that you eat breakfast, and it has 8 grams of fat. If alli prevents you from absorbing 1/4 of that...then alli will make you excrete 2 grams of fat. 2 grams of fat equals 18 calories. (fat has 9 calories per gram.)

18 calories.

18 calories.

18 calories.

Let's say that you absolutely DO adhere to exactly 15 grams of fat per meal. That is 35 fat grams per day. If alli makes you excrete 1/4 of that, then alli would be removing 8.75 fat grams a day from your body.

That equals 78 calories.

78 calories a day removed by alli, and this is if you are eating the entire 15 grams of fat allowed per meal.

78 calories!

Now, since it takes 3500 less calories to lose a pound, this means that it would take 44 days of being perfectly on plan, for the alli to give you a pound extra of weight loss. (You would have already lost some weight though, from the calorie/fat controlled diet...not from the alli.)

So, you would essentially be paying $50 a month, to lose an extra pound every 44 days....

To me, it would be much cheaper (and healthier) to just eat 78 less calories a day, yes? No side effects, and no potential health risks!

:)

In my opinion, because of the mathematical facts...the reason that people are losing weight with alli is NOT because of the drug. They are losing weight because they are adhering to a reduce calorie, reduced fat diet! The alli is basically the "scare" keeping them on plan...they stay on plan to avoid the side effects with the bowels. It is their diet that is causing the weight loss...not so much the drug. Unless you count that 1 pound every 44 days....

Thankyou for this ... It just confirms that I don't want to spend my summer money on it ... aside from which I've been dieting without it and learned A LOT since being on this forum and making this post ( I think my second post) ... and I no longer feel that way thank god) ... I cannot believe how much I've learned and changed my mindset about dieting in the 2 weeks or so I've been here ... I am SO thankful for that.

now for me it will be just eating healthy and exercise!!! no dieting ( although I must admit WW's still tempts me a tad bit :lol:)

marbleflys
06-27-2008, 01:06 PM
Question???? is it 78 calories???? Or is it 78 FAT calories? isn't there a difference? sorry, my brain gets slower by friday....

aphil
06-27-2008, 02:21 PM
Okay....

78 total calories, and 78 fat calories....because alli is only removing calories that are fat.

Calories from food are basically broken down into three types: protein, carbohydrates, and fat.

I think that where you are getting confused, is seeing the term "fat calories" on nutrition labels.

If you have a nutrition label, and for example's sake, we'll say it is a cracker box. On that box it might say:

Per serving:
120 calories
3 grams fat
2 grams protein
21 grams carbohydrates

The box might ALSO say (somewhere around the calories/fat part)
27 fat calories or 27 calories from fat

This is basically telling you that out of the 120 calories in the serving of crackers, that 27 of those calories are from FAT.

If you do the math accordingly, it all adds up. One gram of fat equals 9 calories...so if the food item you are eating has 3 grams of fat, then 27 of the calories (9x3) are from fat. A calorie is a calorie...the term "fat calories" is a term used to show you exactly how many calories in the food are from fat.

For further reference, a gram of protein has 4 calories...and a gram of carbohydrates also has 4 calories. So, if you look at my example and do the math, the totals of the fat, protein, and carb grams will add up to the 120 calories. It is really just a simple food breakdown...since many foods have some of each-fat, carbs, and proteins in them.

madalinax
06-27-2008, 06:32 PM
Guys, you are so cute with all the calories and all the math you are doing. it is true.....it does not matter if the calories comes from fat, protein, carbs and so on......the only difference is that 1g of fat has more calories than 1 gr of protein. So it is easy to pack up a lot of fat from eating fatty foods, than from eating a lean meal.

Regarding the Alli, I really don't know what to say. I do not eat too much fat, so I do not know if this is good foe me or not. The only time I have seen some signs of fat in my stool, was when I had that slice of pizza. After that, nothing! I started exercising and I burn about 500 calories in 50 minutes. Today I did not feel too good. After 30 minutes I felt dizzy, I felt without energy. I went to take a shower and I felt better. I really don't know what to think about Alli...... I will keep you posted.

marbleflys
06-28-2008, 08:38 AM
I went into my cabinet and i'm looking at 6 months worth of Xenical capsules (which is the prescription strength Alli)......whatotdo,whattodo? sometimes it seems like I just can't make progress....it's discouraging when I eat right, exercise until the cows come home, have a more than active life (I work more than full time and take care of my 89 YO mother and her house)...i'm stressed to the max and i'm lucky if i lost 3 lbs. this month.

then i saw those stupid commercials last night, the first was for Alli, the second one was for a Big Mac! (just smack me)!

aphil
06-28-2008, 09:50 AM
Actually...3 pounds a month is pretty good for someone in the 160's. I have a really, really hard time losing once I get down to 170 pounds. (Starting at over 200 after each of my three babies...)

It seems like once I hit that 170 marker, that I have to really work for each and every ounce...

marbleflys
06-29-2008, 08:12 AM
Thanks for the encouragement....it's difficult to accept all the changes in my body these days...(menopause on top of the stress, seems to be giving me that abdominal girth that won't go away, its the last place I lose, i've got a good hourglass shape hiding under my fat, i'm only 5'5").

I'm still undecided, but I can always try the Xen. for a week or two and see if they are helpful...i need to get my weight down to prevent type 2, my fasting blood glucose is running high, IR makes it harder to lose also...it's getting tiresome, all this effort for so little...

madalinax
07-07-2008, 03:38 PM
Ok guys, hre goes my results after 2 weeks. I was at 155 when I started with Alli, and now I am at 151. I have lost 4 lbs in two weeks, with lots of cheating. I did experience the bad effects just once, but it was not that bad anyway. I ate some chicken, bought from Jewel, and the second day I had a sandwich with oeanut butter. A few hours later I had a bowel movement and I was shocked.....it looked like I was puting oil into the toilet. I was sure it was the penut butter, but surprise....it was rhe CHICKEN! I had peanut butter yesterday, and nothing happened. I had pizza yesterday, and nothing happened. So, it was the damn chicken! And I had just a little bit. Friday, Saturday and Sunday I ate a lot, and I had a hot dog, a hamburger, red meat-you know, all the bad stuff. I was sure that my scale will go up sky, but no, it went down. :) I think I would have been down to 150 today if I would have not eat the pizza last night. I don't mind losing weight slowly as long as it stays off. Last year I lost weight fast, and I put back 15 in a month or two. Hopefully I will lose at least 10 more pounds until September, before getting pregnant.

Does anyone know anything about Xantrex 3? I bought a bottle last year, and I did not feel very well after taking it. I found it now when I cleaned the room, and I don't know if I should try it again, or not.

marbleflys
07-08-2008, 07:39 AM
Are you counting the fat grams in the food? Pizza is primarily cheese (and other toppings) which can be high in fat...even lite peanut butter has about 12 grams of fat per serving...as for the red meat, it can be lean, i always use the 90% lean....the chicken may have been fried (i don't know what Jewel is we don't have it in my area).

pretty much if you watch what you are consuming you can avoid the side effects....

KforKitty
07-08-2008, 09:31 AM
Its probably not one particular item that gave you the treatment effects but more likely the total fat you consumed that one particular day. I too don't know the type of chicken you described but if its plain meat without skin or any coating then it will be low in fat and not likely to cause effects on it own.

Kitty

Prufrock
07-10-2008, 01:30 PM
I started taking Alli one year ago, and still take it. Since I have been doing ww simultaneously, I'll never know how I would have done without them. But I've lost 70 lbs, and have had no side effects from the Alli.
That's my testimony, but each of us needs to do what works for her.
Here's to all of us!
Prufrock
:hug:

madalinax
07-25-2008, 08:30 PM
The chicken I was talking about had skin, and lot of fat. Spicy hot wings, and breast. :) Any way, I gave up on Alli. Did not work for me. After I lost the 4 pounds, I started having cravings, and in one week I went up to 158 pounds. I put the 4 pounds I lost, plus 3 more. I got so desperate, because like I said before, I want to get pregnant soon, and I do not want to gain 75 pounds as I did with my first pregnancy. My deseperation was so big, that I went back to the doctor to prescribe me Phendimetrazine, and here I am with 5 lost pounds in 4 days. It might not be healthy losing it that fast..... Anyway, I used this medicine before, and lost more than 30 pounds with it, fast, but I did not take care of myself. I was able to keep of the weight for more than 6 months, but I had some peanut butter "issues". :) After 7-8 years of not eating it, suddenly I started to crave it. And I was out of control.....:o

dgjp8991
08-09-2008, 11:28 AM
Just took my first Alli about an hr ago, Im hoping it will give me the help i need to keep me on track!

beth4365
08-11-2008, 09:52 AM
Hi all,

Just another personal experience here.

I take Alli when I'm eating a meal that has anything over 6-8 grams of fat. For me, personally, I don't and have never experienced awful/uncontrollable side effects. (HOPE THE FOLLOWING ISNT TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!) I have, however, seen the results of Alli after using the restroom. And, everytime I see it, I'm grateful that it's gone, and NOT inside my body.

I understand tracking the calories/ fat thinking that it doesn't add up to much. Alli doesn't drastically reduce anything. But, practically speaking, I'm glad not only for the calories, but for the pure fat that is not trying to move through my bloodstream and body. I recall reading somewhere that studies are being done because it is possible that Alli *may* be helpful in lowering cholesterol, too.

Anyway, for me... Alli is one tool in the bigger picture of this fitness journey. And, since I need all the help I can get, I need to use all the tools at my disposal.

Best wishes to each of us as we make these personal decisions!

AllAboutDieting
08-11-2008, 03:55 PM
I am just starting a long weight loss plan and used Alli first. I already stopped, because it gave me such an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach. I think that's what I like best about dieting, is the great, healthy feeling in my stomach. This wasn't nausea or bloating, I can't really describe it. But I didn't lose much at all which in the first few days of a diet didn't make sense to me. I was always nervous i would have the "treatment effects" and I can't have that in the job that I have. BUT...it made me read labels, read fat grams and got me started so I appreciate that part of it!