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03-06-2002, 07:25 AM
Hello and welcome to the Thin Group! We are a great group of ladies (but men are welcome if there are any who care to join us) who have one thing in common. We are all working together toward our goal of being healthier in our daily lifestyles and to lose weight in 2000. There are all different ages and backgrounds here and we all have different ways of losing our weight. We all love to have fun and laugh, but we also give a lot of support, encouragement and motivation for one another. Please feel free to post with us - just jump right in and believe me, you will be welcomed with open arms. The more the merrier!

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03-06-2002, 07:31 AM
Hi Ladies:

Haven't been around in such a long time. Just don't seem to have the time to myself much these days.

Just wanted to let you all know that my mother passed away yesterday at 1:00 p.m. Last Saturday, while in the hospital, her heart stopped and her stopped breathing and they brought her back. Her brian was damaged dued to lack to oxygen. Mom was never the same after that. She never came out of it. My sisters and I decided to pull her off of life support and she died a couple of hours after that. It was so very beautiful though that her whole family was with her when she died. I got the opportunity to hold my mother in my arms when she took her last breathe. It was so sad but very comforting. It seems like all the people in my life have always been taken away so suddenly and such a shock and this was so different. I loved my mother so. She was 83 years old. What will life be like without her?

Just wanted to like everyone know. I will be back when things settle down. I love you all.


03-06-2002, 08:50 AM

I'm so sorry to hear that your Mom passed.God must have needed another Angel :angel: I'm sure she lived a long, happy life.She had you as a Daughter, so I'm sure she was a happy woman.

I know that you've had to go through so much the past few years. God must know that you can survive this much pain or he wouldn't put you through so much.You're such a strong person.Take care of yourself & remember we're here for you if you need us.{{{{ Chrissy }}}}

Love you,
Sherry (Sher-Bear)

03-06-2002, 09:16 AM
Chrissy, I'm so sorry for your loss. My prayers are with you.

As for what your life will be like without her, it will be difficult and sad at times. But always remember the wonderful person she obviously was and the many good times you had with her. In your heart and in the hearts of those who loved her, she will live forever.

Love you.

03-06-2002, 05:45 PM
You have sure had your plate full these past few years. I am so very very sorry to hear about your mom. But then I think what a wonderful life she had with daughters like she had, and wonderful grandkids too. Especially your two girls that showed her sao much love and caring. You gave your mom all the love a daughter caould give and she knew that.
It will be hard without her,but rest assured she is up there looking down now and with her loved ones she lost.
You are one special person Chrissy. Love you. Sandi

03-07-2002, 09:09 AM

My heart goes out to you on the loss of your mother, but rest assured she will always be with you in your heart. My mother was 1 wk shy of turning 83 when she passed away, and like you, I was with her when she took her last breath. Her presence will always be with you. She was much loved and she knew it. Love to you and the girls, and I will see you this evening.

Spent a couple hours with Sharon yesterday and she gives you all her love. I believe she is going back home Friday morning so she can get ready for her trip to California.

Sorry I haven't been around much ... have been in a real big "funk" but am working on it! Have to get ready now to go to weigh-in ... I don't think it will be a pretty site!

Love to all,

03-07-2002, 11:02 AM

CHRISSY , so sorry for the loss of your mother. Your plate has really been full in the past couple of years. Remember to take care of Chrissy, we all love her!

CJ , finally got the scale moving again! This morning I weighed in at.......are you ready for this?.........
245.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the lowest I've been in many years.

I'm taking Rowdy for a walk every day. He thinks he's really special because we leave the other dogs at home. When I pick up his leash he starts to dance all over the house!

I bought one of those pedometer things that is supposed to tell how far you've walked and how many calories you've burned. It probably works, I just am not smart enough to figure out how to get all the buttons pushed to get it started! I hate to admit how dumb I am! LOL

I'm sooooo glad the weather has finally warmed up enough for me to be able to get out of the house. The debris from the ice storm has mostly been cleared from the yards in my neighborhood and the streets have been cleaned up. The trees were so damaged that some people just cut them down. These were 50-60 year old oaks and elms! What a shame! I'm going to wait to see if my trees will come back before I make any final decisions about ending their lives! Can you tell I love my trees?

My wayward child, my crazy mixed-up drug addicted daughter has dissapeared again. The people she was living with threw her out. I don't have any idea where she is. Well, maybe that's a good thing. She hasn't bothered to call or come by so I guess she doesn't want me to know.

Well, I guess I had better get myself showered and dressed and get started moving this morning. I think I'll go to the mall to walk today, better leave my credit cards at home tho. The weather looks kinda dreary out there, lots of fog. Poor Rowdy will have to stay at home. Will break his little heart when I leave! LOL

Hugs, Judy

sweet tooth
03-07-2002, 11:39 AM
Hi everyone. Hope all is going well and that you are maintaining your losses.

CJ - It is so good to hear from you, but it is not good that you are sounding so down. Even if the results from your WI are not good today, it is a new starting point to hop back on the weight loss program. Let us know how you are doing. We really miss you on the thread. Take care. {{{{HUGS}}}}

Judy - Congrats on the weight loss. You are doing so well with your exercise and losing. It won't be long until you are into the 230s. Way to go.

For me, I am having good days and bad days. It seems that, because I am so close to goal, it is getting ever so much more difficult to stay OP. Yesterday was a bad day, but I was feeling sorry for myself and hurting badly.....result - eating.

On Tuesday, I had an accident at work. I was attacked by my filing cabinet, got pinned underneath it and when all was said and done, I am covered with bruises and I have filing strewn around my office. Hubby was out of town, so I didn't even get any TLC when I got home....result - the fridge. Hubby was still away yesterday, so I consoled myself with some extra treats. It felt good at the time, but I could have done without.

Today is a new day and the plan is to stay OP so that I can finally manage to get below that 130 pound mark. Hopefully that will be by Mar. 18 WI. I'm hoping, anyway.

Good luck to everyone else this week. Take care.

03-07-2002, 05:31 PM
Hi everyone! Just taking a moment to check in real quick. It's been a looooonnng day. Thank goodness it's almost over. And I've been so busy, I haven't eaten since my yogurt for breakfast and some pretzels about 2 hours ago. Oh yeah, and I'm on my third can of diet soda but finally wised up enough to switch to caffeine free diet soda! :rolleyes:

I've also been running around like a lunatic all day so I'm getting exercise too. Now if only I can beat down this stress level. I'm so wound up, getting on the treadmill should be no problem at this point. Then again, I may just go home and fall on my face. Talk about being on a rollercoaster.

Well, as you may have noticed, I don't have much to say so I'm going to start to clean off this desk for the day. Hope you all have a good evening.

Much love, Jo.

03-08-2002, 10:23 AM
Yoo Hoo!!! Anyone home?? I NEED YOU GUYS!!!! :( See, there was this party at the VFW and it was just ending when we "regulars" got there and so we got to eat the leftover food. And there was a bunch of it!!! We're talking pizza and pasta and meatballs and rolls and cheese and ... well, you get the idea. Waaaah!!!!!! :cry:

OK, I'll calm down and assess the damage here. Actually, it wasn't as bad as it could have been. I mean I didn't overdo it as much as I might have in the past. But it was still bad. And I am so mad at myself!!! :mad: I'm feeling particularly guilty.

So now, let me ask. WHY!?!?!?!? Have you guys ever done this? Sit there and eat and eat and know full well that you shouldn't be doing it but just continuing anyway??? Knowing that you're being stupid and if you just stop now it won't be so bad but NOT STOPPING!!!! I could cry. I laid there in bed last night, mentally kicking myself. Wish you guys were available to butt kick me all the way to the moon and back!!!!

I'm finished whining now. I've done the only thing I can do and gotten back on track. Can't undo yesterday but I can pick myself back up and get back on the wagon instead of just laying there and letting the wagon roll over me and keep on going without me I guess. Oooh, what imagery.

Need more water. Gotta run.
Talk to you soon.

03-08-2002, 12:44 PM
Good morning everyone. Have been sitting here getting my checkbook in order and writing out the bills for March and thought I better post. I did have weigh-in yesterday and was down 1 lb. Although I am still up 3 lbs from where I was, I am looking at yesterday as my beginning ...

Spent some time with Chrissy last nite at the funeral home. She is holding up very well. Her mother looked so nice, in peace. And I know Crissy is going to miss her, but her spirit will always be with her.

I know I have fallen behind on posting our updates ... I promise, I will get them up this week! So please send me your updates ok? Judy, I got yours - great going! You've lost 17 lbs already! Good job!

I'll be back later to post again. Have missed you all!

Love, CJ

03-08-2002, 03:46 PM

Just checking in to let you know I have not lost any weight in the last week. There's a big basket of jelly beans at work that has been tempting me all week, and I have to take a few every time I pass by. :(

It's also March Madness at the wineries in the Lehigh Valley, and we visited three of them last weekend. Needless to say, this has not been a good week for losing weight.

Chrissy, so sorry to hear about your mother. Be comforted by the fact that she is at peace and no longer suffering.


03-10-2002, 12:56 AM
Hi everyone,
We just got back from Michigan last night. Wow I am so exhausted from everything going on here.

Papa is doing about the same, but I know that it sure cheered him up seeing my brother, and his son, Jerry again. And he really loved seeing his grandson's Dan and Alan once again. We spend as much time with him as we could and had a nice visit. It was good that I was there cause Chrissy was busy with her Mom and the funeral ect. So I was glad to be able to help take some of the weight off.

Chrissy is doing really well under the circumstances of everything that has been happening. I went to see her Mom, Mary the night before she died and Chrissy let me come into her room, where she was on life support. They told me to make her wake up and for the love of God I really tried to get Mary to hear me, but to no avail. So Chrissy, her sisters and myself had a good cry over Mary. I only could come on Thursday cause we came home on Friday, yesterday. But I did try to spend as much time as possible with her at the funeral home. She is doing alright because she knows her Mom is at peace now and with God, Rick, my Mom, Chrissy's Dad and her brother, Christopher too. Her Mom Mary looked so beautiful myself and everyone else thought too.

I got to see CJ, we had lunch together on Wednesday and her and her husband, Dick also came to the funeral home too. Chrissy and I both loved seeing her again. I went with them and a few of my relatives-my Dad's sister and my favorite Aunt Carmella from Las Vegas, who came there to Big Boy and it was nice being with everyone. My husband Ken, flew up there on Wed on business for work so extending his stay so he could go to the funeral for Mary and see Chrissy and her family too. It was nice that he could do that. He is a really wonderful source of support for me during these times.

But tomorrow I am heading out to Los Angeles, California for some University Of Michigan training again. Just like I did a couple of years ago, training as an assessor for the study on school childlren we are doing all across the nation. Our team is doing the Indianapolis, Indiana area and the Cincinnati, Ohio area too. It will be fun to go there. They will pay all expenses, put us up for a week at the Marriot Airport Hotel in L.A too. They have a catered breakfast and lunch and we get money for our dinners when we arrive so that ain't bad is it? Oh my gosh I am all ready up weight-wise so I just hope I don't go wild when I get to the buffet line. LOL I will try guys, but it is so hard sometimes isn't it? Oh why oh why do they have to have all that good stuff at those buffets?

The good news is that I have lots of my Dad's relatives there so they are planning a big old reunion so I can see everyone at one persons house for dinner on a night I have free from training. This is all being arranged by my favorite Aunt Carm's daughter, Sandi that lives in L.A so I can't wait to see my relatives. Dad has a brother and his family and 2 sisters there too. Of course they all have huge Italian families. LOL So it will be great when we all get together. My cousin, Sandi is even planning on spending a night with me so we can have a slumber party again like when we were kids. LOL I can't wait, but I will have to go to classes and do some studying, but I will manage won't I? I can do it all. LOL

Trish-Oh my gosh don't worry about you weight cause all we did is ate out when I was in Michigan so I just can't wait to see what is going to happen when I come back from L.A with all those catered dinners ect. LOL

CJ-It was so wonderful having lunch with you the other day and seeing you again at the funeral home was so great. I know Ken loved seeing Dick again too. Those two! Congrats on losing that pound. YOU GO GIRL!

Jo-Hey don't be so hard on youself. I have been the same way and eating anything not nailed down in Michigan. I am crying to keep a lid on it too, for when I go to Los Angeles, but it sure is hard isn't it? Don't worry Jo, you will do it. Start brand new tomorrow that's all. YOU CAN DO THIS!

Peggy-Sorry about your filing cabinet accident. Gosh that is awful and I hope your bruises go away soon. Take care of youself.

Judy-Man you sure are going to town with that scale arn't you? Keep on going down down down and than down down down again. YOU ARE DOING THIS!

Sandi-Chrissy said you and Spence were going to Mary's funeral. Gosh I would have loved to see you and Spence again, but I really had to get home to get everything down for my California trip. Hope you had a safe trip down there and back.

Sherry-Miss you girlfriend, soon as things settle down and I get back from L.A I will have to try your number again and maybe this time we can actually hear each other's voice. I can't wait! Hope things are fine with you and your health. Love you Sher-Bear!

Chrissy-Gosh it was only yesterday I saw you last when I ran into your house to give you the mail that came to Dad's house. You looked so pretty I though and have such strengh and endurance during all of this. I really loved seeing you again and hope you will start to heal soon. I just keep remembering when me and the guys went to you Mom's room after I heard she was gone and her roomate Marie told me that you and your sisters, Cynthia and Carol treated you Mom like she was a queen. Please always remember that you were the best daughter anyone could ever ask for. Your Mom sure knew it, I am sure of that.
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((CHRISSY)))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))

Well better go finish packing cause I have lots to do. This morning I spend the day filling out paperwork to take there and I even had to go to the Police Station to get finger printed. I guess anyone who works with children has to and I for one am glad of it. Can't have a bunch of perverts working with children can we? I am so tired from all this running around I have done today. But tomorrow I will be on my way and maybe will be able to relax in between training if that is possible. I went out and bought a couple of bathing suits to use around the pool there. Hey CHRISSY!!!!! Remember what you said about my old bathing suit that you could see through in the back cause it was so worn down? So now you will be so happy won't you? Tell Em and El that Aunt Sharon got a new bathing suit and they will be happy too.

Love you guys, and see you when I come back next week. Love Sassy Sharon

03-11-2002, 09:44 AM
It's Monday morning. Yuck. I'm sitting here at work with a sore throat and a hacking cough. What am I? Stupid? I was in bed at 8:00 last night and slept through the night. This morning, I swore I'd call in sick. But as I said, I must be stupid. :mad:

I weighed in on Saturday. Lost 0.2 lbs. and was happy for it. I was so worried. Of course, dodging that bullet didn't stop me from eating like a maniac the rest of Saturday and at the breakfast on Sunday. The only thing that may have saved me is that we were really really busy at this breakfast and I ran around like a nut. Must have gone up and down the stairs to and from the kitchen a hundred times. Unfortunately, I gave in to a bacon craving too. Haven't had bacon in so long! I'd forgotten how good it tastes. Uh oh. :o

I stepped on my scale this morning and it says I'm up 7 lbs.! I'm hoping it's mostly water weight though (had chinese food on Saturday night) and I'm going to be good this week, I promise.

Trish, glad to hear from you again. I remember the wineries up in your area. Could be trouble! But at least the jelly beans are better than chocolate or those marshmallow peeps or malted milk eggs or coconut cream bunnies or .... Oops. Sorry. I'm glad I gave up candy for Lent. It's helping ... a little....

CJ, my official update: Started at 202 on June 19, 2000. Now at 164. So that's 38 lost. Goal is 150 so I have 14 to go. And it's taking FOREVER!!!! :mad: Sorry I didn't email them to you but I lost your latest email addy. Yeah, I'm a dummy. :shrug:

Peggy, how are you doing with those bruises? Hope they're healing and you're not too sore. I have an old metal file cabinet that has the habit of tipping forward if more than one drawer is opened. I like the newer ones that only let you open one drawer at a time. Saves klutzes like me from having that happen. Take care!

Have to go now and blow my nose. Oh, like you all really needed to know that. :^: I don't want to be sick. I don't have the time ... or the energy ... to be sick! Did I mention that our patio doors are being delivered on Friday and we are totally unprepared for them!!! We'll have to store them in the garage which means the car that's been sitting in there for over a year will have to be towed out. (Rich keeps claiming he knows a guy who wants to buy the thing and he'll get it out of there. I'll believe it when I see it. :rolleyes: ) Can't wait to see how this week ends....

Stay tuned.
Much love, Jo.

sweet tooth
03-11-2002, 11:59 AM
Hi and Happy Monday to all...

I had a great weekend. I used the 'I'm too sore to do anything' excuse to the fullest. Stayed in bed most of the weekend and watched movies. HE took 2 days off last week to work at an outside contract, so spent this weekend catching up on work that he needed to do by today. One was a presentation that he needed to do for the government this morning. Another was to write cirriculum for a course he has starting on April 1 and needed to be to the printer today. The lady that was supposed to be writing it since last September dumped it in his lap last week not done. She had six months to do it, he has 2 1/2 weeks, including printing and multi media time. Just a little stress in the house this weekend. LOL.

This morning didn't help when I spent 45 minutes on the phone at 4:00 am giving the cab driver (taking hubby to the airport so I wouldn't have to get up) directions to the house. What a bozo he was. I'm wondering if he ever made it on time...

This morning's WI was even great. Lost another 1. 75 pounds this week. Hoping to make another mini-goal by next WI - down under 130 pounds. It is getting so close, but like Jo says, the closer you get, the harder it is to stay OP. I'm having a really hard time, but I'm still plugging away. I WILL drop the extra 11 pounds to get to my personal goal.

CJ - It is so good to hear from you again. We still miss you and hope that you join in soon. Take care.

Trish - Jelly beans and wines. Sounds like a great time. Although you didn't lose last week, this is a new week and still time to get back on track. You can do it.

Sharon - Good to hear from you. Great that you had a good time with family visiting Papa. Hope your training goes well and that you are able to stay OP while away. You were doing so well before you left. Keep it up.

Hope everyone has a great week. Keep those pounds coming off.


sweet tooth
03-11-2002, 03:27 PM
I received this over the weekend and thought I would pass on for a Monday chuckle...

Just call me Fluffy Pizzatush!

Sometimes when you have a stressful day or week, you need some silliness to break up the day. Here is your dose... Follow the instructions to find your new name. The following in an excerpt from a children's book, "Captain Underpants and the Perilous Plot of Professor Poopypants", by Dave Pilkey: The evil Professor forces everyone to assume new names...Use the third letter of your first name to determine your New first name:
Use the second letter of your last name to determine the first half of your New last name:
a = diaper
b = toilet
c = giggle
d = burger
e = girdle
f = barf
g = lizard
h = waffle
i = cootie
j = monkey
k = poty
l = liver
m = banana
n = rhino
o = bubble
p = hamster
q = toad
r = gizzard
s = pizza
t = gerbil
u = chicken
v = pickle
w = chuckle
x = tofu
y = gorilla
z = stinker
Use the fourth letter of your last name to determine the second half of your New last name:
a = head
b = mouth
c = face
d = nose
e = tush
f = breath
g = pants
h = shorts
i = lips
j = honker
k = butt
l = brain
m = tushie
n = chunks
o = hiney
p = biscuits
q = toes
r = buns
s = fanny
t = sniffer
u = sprinkles
v = kisser
w = squirt
x = humperdinc
y = brains
z = juice
Thus, for example, George W. Bush's new name is Gober Chickenshorts. Bill Clinton's name is Booger Liverchunks. Now when you FORWARD THIS... use your new name as the subject. And remember that children laugh an average of 146 times a day, adults laugh an average of 4 times a day. Put more laughter in your life!!!

03-11-2002, 03:53 PM
I really didn't plan to post today because I'm once again having a terrible case of "poor, poor me". But after browsing I realize I'm not the only one having trouble. I had a terrible week-end and with the stress ......guess what I did? Of course, I ate. You guys know me well!!! Now on Monday morning I am having "eaters remorse". Why can't I conquer that? I sometimes wonder if I don't have a fear of losing weight. Anyone else have that fear?

Christy-----I am so sorry for your lost, it sure makes my problems look silly. I pray that you can find the peace that your mother would want you to have. One day at a time is the only solution. Good luck to you.

Sharon------I would like to tell you to just not eat at those buffets but I can't ask you to do something that I can't do. Good luck and have a fun time and you can work on weight when you get home.

CJ------I've fallen and I can't get up again. I'm working on it but I need a pep talk from you.

I'm not supposed to be working today but it is Family Read Night at my school so off I go to set up. Everyone be better than I have been!! Carolyn

03-11-2002, 03:55 PM
Thanks for the laugh!!!! Boy did I need that.
from Loopy Liver Chunks

03-12-2002, 09:51 AM
This is no fair!!! My name is Poopsie Diaper Pants!?!?!? Now that's just too graphic!!! Yuck. Can I change my name? :p

Anyway, yesterday, I didn't exercise. I didn't drink nearly enough water. I didn't eat right. I was bad bad bad bad bad! :devil: And I just couldn't bring myself to care. Why? Don't know. I fell deeply into a big old funk and just sat there like a big fat lump :ink: feeling sorry for myself because "I'm so fat and I can't eat what I want and other people can eat anything and stay thin so why can't I and it's not fair waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!" :cry:

Now I'm going to have to pay the price. There ain't no way I can "save" this week. I have to weigh in on Friday morning so I have one less day to work on salvaging my pride and self-respect and there's no way this weigh-in is going to be a good one. But I guess I'm through whining for the moment. Who knows how I'll feel by tonight. :?: I think I really really need spring to come so I can "unfunk" myself and get outside into the garden or something. The house/kitchen/patio door project(s) at home are going so much more slowly than I expected and it's really starting to get to me. I'm tired of living in all this clutter and dust.

Did I say I was done whining? Oops. Sorry. I'll stop now. Maybe if the sun comes out today, it'll get a little better? :^:

Sorry to have vented on you all. I'll post again when I'm feeling more civil and you won't have to listen to me like this.

Love you guys.

sweet tooth
03-12-2002, 10:59 AM
Jo - Cheer up. Sooo, you had a bad day yesterday. Today is a brand new day and you can get back OP today. You are not fat. Look at where you have come from - lost over 40 pounds and you only have another 14 or 15 to lose. That's an accomplishment and you should be darn proud of it. I know what you mean about the funks. I have been feeling like that for the past month and having trouble staying OP. For me, I think it is psychological - I think that I am only a few pounds from my personal goal, so I can take a few extra privileges with my eating. The privileges that I have taken are causing me to gain weight. You and I both need to get over this hump and get back with the program again. I know we can do this. Take care.


03-12-2002, 05:50 PM
Peggy (aka Fluffy ;) )

Thanks for the words of wisdom. I know you're right and today's a new day and all but I'm having such motivation problems lately. You too, huh? :( Must be a really bad case of the winter blahs. I'm hoping the warmer weather coming (WHEN!?!?!) will change my attitude.

I think you're right about it being, in part, because we're getting close to goals. All the time, I get comments about how good I look and how much weight I've lost, etc. I mean, it's always nice to hear but it tends to make me a bit over-confident or something.

Ah well, I'm not going to try to philosophize ... or spell! :lol: I'll just keep coming here for support and virtual kicks you-know-where. And I'll keep sending you good vibes if you promise to send them to me too!

That's what friends are for.....

Love, Jo.

sweet tooth
03-12-2002, 09:19 PM
Jo - I think you are right. I have people tell me all the time how good I look and that I don't need to lose any more weight. Well, the truth is, I really don't NEED to lose any more weight, but I WANT to lose another 10 - 11 pounds to make sure that I have some leeway with my weight. At the very worst, I will be happy to maintain this weight for a while, then when the complements die down and I am not so cocky, I will try to get the rest off. I just don't plan to beat myself up over it.

I guess I should go, I need to get home from work - these 12 hour days are getting to be a habit. Talk to you tomorrow.


sweet tooth
03-14-2002, 11:41 AM
Haaalllllloooooo out there. Is anybody home?

I just read this on the eDiets site and thought I would share with you:

Imagine losing that extra 5 to 10 pounds just by adding a serving of whole grain to each meal or a crispy garden salad to your lunch and dinner.

Dieting should be so simple, you say. Well, it is, according to renowned nutritionist Katherine Tallmadge whose best-selling book Diet Simple (Lifeline Press) offers 154 "tricks, substitutions, habits and inspirations" to help you lose weight and keep it off for good!

You wonít find any temporary solutions or quick fixes here. The tried-and-true calorie-cutting techniques are lifestyle changes Tallmadge collected during her more than 20 years in private practice.

Tallmadge says she learned what works while successfully battling her own diet demons and from working with countless clients desperate for the peace of mind that comes from lasting weight loss. Along the way, she also observed the many factors and mistakes that cause dieters to quit the fight... time and time again.

One of the biggest mistakes: trying to become a model dieter. Tallmadge says these are the individuals who set themselves up for failure.

"Trying to do anything perfectly is usually doomed to fail -- this includes dieting," she tells eDiets from her Washington D.C. office. ďWeíre only human and humans arenít perfect.

"If someone has a history of following strict diets for so long, itís hard for them to know what the middle ground is. They donít think, 'How much splurging can I get away with?' or ĎHow much chocolate can I eat a week or a day?' Instead, they think, 'Oops, I had chocolate. Now Iím going to give up and throw in the towel!'"

Her biggest challenge is to help clients break through the barriers that have long held them back from success. She says in order to lose the weight a person first has to gain the right mindset. That means dropping the "all or nothing" mentality that dooms far too many dieters.

Tallmadge cringes when she hears a client moan, "I cheated!" or "I was bad!" It's negative notions like these that cause people to feel bad about themselves, she says. Her solution: start changing your vocabulary to take the judgmental words and phrases out of the weight loss equation.

"You have to start being good to yourself," she says. "You have to be practical and understanding. You need to know your strengths and weaknesses. These are all things that are necessary for you to be successful. People donít give themselves enough kindness."

Sooooo, if you are in a funk, remember, we are not all perfect. We are not all model dieters. But, we are all committed to eating differently, making better choices, becoming healthy and learning what our individual bodies can tolerate. Some things work and some don't. Just be kind to yourself when you make mistakes.

03-15-2002, 11:26 AM

This is "Tuleful Liverbuns" checking in. How funny! :D

Jo & Peggy, I enjoyed reading the dialog between the two of you over the last few posts. I'll try to remember that a mistake here and there does not doom me to failure forever, and I'll get up, brush myself off, and start again! Unlike the two of you, I have a long way to go.

With this new inspiration, I hope that next week I have some good results to report. My goal is to lose two lbs. this week.

Sharon, I hope you have a wonderful trip to Los Angeles.

Have a great weekend. :)


03-15-2002, 02:09 PM
Hello, Loopy Liver Chunks here. That's gross sounding. I too, have enjoyed Jo and Peggy's conversation. Why is it we always have to be reminded that the world doesn't end if you mess up? I have been on that same boat for the last few weeks. I think I've lost the same 2 lbs. six times!
This week hasn't been any better. Tomorrow night I am having the class I teach over for a social. There will be tons of food. That's probably my hardest trials. When the food comes in the front door my will power goes out the back.
Starting Sunday I promise I will be better. I am leaving for Fla. in a week and although I look better than last year, I wanted to be smaller. Isn't that a surprise? Stop laughting!
Sharon----I've been thinking about your trip, hope it hasn't been to bad on your diet.
CJ-----I hope you are better. I e-mailed you but haven't heard anything.
Everyone try to have a great week-end. Weather been lovely here but now that I'm off we are expecting rain. Never fails.
Stay strong!!!! Carolyn

03-20-2002, 08:10 AM
OK - I'm back! and this time I am going to stay! Sorry for the "dissappearing act" but it's hard to explain ... I just did not wish to talk about weight, etc etc etc. But I really have missed you guys so here I am. I just "lost" it for a while, sorta, about my weight. Came to a stand still, gained - don't understand why??, and just didn't want to talk about it! I'm still going to WW (barely) am still a couple lbs up and can't get rid of them (am a really sloooooow loser to begin with so this is really getting me down) and am believe it or not, still journaling in my book (but not online or on here, as you I am sure have noticed). So, I am back, and I will get up the last updates that I have, and you all can correct my figures, ok?

I've been really really busy lately also - hubby and I celebrated 19 yrs yesterday! Went out and had a really nice quiet dinner together.

Looks like it's been a little quiet in here lately - where are ya all?

I'll check back later ... and again, I am sorry for not posting with you for a while. I have missed you guys.

Love, CJ

sweet tooth
03-20-2002, 11:07 AM
Hi everyone. Miss you guys.

CJ - So good to have you back. I, for one, have really missed your input on this list. It has been empty without you. Glad to know that you are back on track - the weight WILL come off. It is hard for slow losers and requires a lot of discipline. For you to even stay at the weight that you have been hovering at has required discipline and patience. I admire you for sticking with it. I know that you will eventually succeed. Luv ya'.

Weeellll, for me this has been a very stressful time. Yesterday was the last dental appointment in a series for me. I have had a chronic tooth ache for about 1 1/2 months now and been taking tylenol every few hours to keep it under control. Yesterday, I finally got a crown put on the broken tooth, but it will still take a while for the nerve to heal....hence more pain killers.

After the dental appointment yesterday we had to take the dear old cat in to be put down. It was so sad to see him deteriorate over the past few weeks, but even harder to have to say good-bye. We got him as a stray 20 years ago and the vet told us at the time that he was about 7 or 8. At 27, I guess he deserves to be let go.

Yesterday was not a good eating day, either. Too many points, but I will live with that. Today is a new day and I'm back on track. Hoping to lose a few more pounds before the Easter break.

How is everyone? It's been so quiet here and I miss chatting to everyone. Come back soon. I miss you.


03-21-2002, 09:14 AM
Um, hello? (Tapping microphone.) Is this thing on? Can anybody hear me? Uh, my name is Jo and I have a weight problem.

Hi you guys. Havenít been here in a week or so. But boy, itís been quiet, I see! Well, is it time for Jo to come in with her whining again? Or is that what scared everyone away in the first place? OK, I wonít whine. Iíll just tell you a little story.

There was this girl, see. Weíll call her Ö Jo. She fell off the wagon. Heck, she fell off the wagon and then it rolled over her. And then it stopped, backed up and rolled over her again. Squashed her into the mud, it did. She was down and she was out! Thatís it. And she will swear to you that she heard that wagon laughing its wheels off!

Jo just couldnít take it any more. She just couldnít break the slump she was in, just couldnít get out of the funk and get back into that old weight loss game. She knew she was pretty close to hitting rock bottom when she actually Ö oh this is embarrassing Ö left the house on Friday morning PRETENDING to head to weigh-in, went to the Burger King in the next town instead (couldnít risk running into anyone she knew), pigged out on breakfast sandwiches (yes, sandwichES Ė plural) and hash browns and then went home and lied to her very sweet and supportive boyfriend about where sheíd been and how sheíd done.

Was that rock bottom? Nope. Thereís more. The weekend was actually a blur of junk food and self-pity. Then came the actual moment of hitting bottom. You could probably all hear the THUD where you were when she hit. She was at her desk and had accepted from a coworker one, just one, peanut butter sandwich cracker. She ďunscrewedĒ it and ate half. Then as she went to eat the other half (the side with all the peanut butter on it), she dropped it. Horrors! It rolled to the farthest dark corner under her desk and landed, you guessed it, peanut butter side down.

Picture fat old Jo crawling around on the floor of her office, retrieving a half eaten peanut butter cracker and then sitting there trying to pick off the dirt and carpet lint and God knows what else may have been stuck to it so that she could EAT IT!! She stopped and took a good long look at herself. And what she saw disgusted and shamed her.

The cracker went into the garbage can and Jo Ö. OK, we all know who Jo is here Ö and I crept off to the ladies room to cry a little and pull myself together. Iím so embarrassed and ashamed. I canít believe I was really GOING TO EAT that disgusting dirty thing. What have I become??????

There it is. My confession and my shame typed out for all of you guys. And only you guys. Three things that I am thankful for: 1. Having you guys to confess to. 2. No one saw my horrible display that day. 3. I AM BACK!!!

That was Monday. Itís now Thursday. Iíve been so good since that incident. Iím hoping it was the kick in the pants I needed. Iíve been counting points and drinking water. Iíve been on my treadmill twice a day and walked to a meeting at the VFW Tuesday night. (And drank only Diet Coke the entire time.) Iíve been trying to find things to keep me busy and out of trouble at home in the evenings when it gets really tough. Last night it was half an hour on the treadmill, half an hour in a hot bubbly tub and too many hours writing and rewriting a report for work that should have been done weeks ago. (Whoops.)

My advice to you is to invest in sugar free gum because itís in my mouth almost constantly these days. Yesterday was the first day of Spring and, although you wouldnít know it by the weather around here (cold, gray, rain/sleet, yucky in general) Iím going make a new start along with the seasons. I will go to my weigh-in on Saturday morning and take my lumps (pardon the pun) and confess to all those people as well. Well, not the peanut butter cracker incident. Too terrible to say out loud. But Iíll cover up the wagon wheel tracks across my body and stand up on the scale and face it.

Thatís all. Thatís my story. Hope it wasnít too terribly whiny or ďme me meĒ or boring or disgraceful. Iíve been good for three days. Iím going to make it three weeks. Then three months. And from there, who knows where I can go. I wonít even pretend that Iíll never screw up again (although I canít even LOOK at peanut butter crackers) but Iím going to try my best. Thatís all I can do.

Hope to hear from ALL OF YOU soon???
Much love to you.

03-21-2002, 09:18 AM
Peggy, I'm back just to tell you how sorry I am about your loss. I know first hand how hard it is to make that decision. And maybe it doesn't feel like it, but it was definitely the right one. I, for one, believe that animals go to Heaven too. :angel:

And 27 years!?!?! Wow! The stories he must have to tell! :^: Someday you and he will be reuinited. In the mean time, I will ask my dearly departed cat-lover grandmother to watch over him as she is for my sweet 16 year-old cat who joined her a couple of years ago.

Hugs to you. {{{PEGGY}}}

sweet tooth
03-21-2002, 11:00 AM
Jo - It's great to hear from you. I have been thinking about you all week and worrying that something had happened to you. I really rely on getting in to work every morning and reading all your funny stories. They have been missing this week and I have missed you.

Don't have any regrets or guilt or shame over falling off the wagon. Celebrate the enjoyment you had for a few days and acknowledge that it is a blip that will slow you down, but you are ready and able to accept that now. You are back, and that is what's important today. You really do need to change that mental picture of yourself. When I read your weight loss stats, you are anything by 'fat old Jo.' You are skinny little Jo who wants to take off another few pounds to be at the personal weight that she wants to be at. You can do it, I know. You have already come a long way and have just short distance left. Hang in there. Be patient.

I'll be waiting to hear the report that you have after weigh-in on Sat. I know it probably won't be pretty, but it's a new starting point and you can go from there. You may even surprise yourself since you have been so good with eating and exercise this week. Sending you {{{{weigh-in vibes}}}} for Saturday. Keep on having a good week. Talk later.

03-21-2002, 06:32 PM
Hey Jo, that same wagon came to my place and he said, "I got Jo and now I'm going to get you!" And he did! I went back Tuesday and the result was 2 lb. up! I have been good for 2 days but haven't started the exercise again. And before the wagon smashing I had almost (stress almost) got to liking exercise. (almost) Why do we do this to ourselves?

Peggy you are right we can't punish ourselves for these misses. I must get back up and go again. Thanks for your faith in all of us.

Jo you are so close to goal. I know you will do it keep plugging girl!

I must close and get busy. Staying busy keeps me from eating as much. Starting vacation today and will be leaving for Fla. on Sunday. Hope to eat lots of fish.

03-22-2002, 09:43 AM
Only have a minute. Thanks to Peggy and Carolyn for your understanding. Knew I'd find that here. Carolyn, sorry! I TRIED to stop that wagon I swear!! :^:

Remember the review my boss was supposed to give me last January? Well, rumor has it that I MIGHT get it today!!! I'm psyching myself up and made a list of things I want to say last night. Sadly, he apparently has about 15 reviews to do today among all the other work which means we each get about 2 minutes???? That's what I got last year - 2 minutes of his time at about 10 after 5 with another person waiting for a review after me. This year, I'm demanding more time and I'm sorry but I can't worry about all those other people. Just hope something good comes out of this. Heck, I'm even wearing my lucky underwear. :lol:

Sorry to ramble. In other news, I'm still OP, still drinking gallons of water (must remember to go to the ladies' before my review!) and still getting a little exercise each day. Send good vibes tomorrow morning at Jo's weigh-in time.

Gotta run!
Love, Jo.

sweet tooth
03-22-2002, 07:50 PM
Happy weekend.

I am so glad that the weekend is here. It is budget time at work, the government has cut funding to education, so we are in a position to cut, cut, cut. My job is to find about 5% that can be cut out of the depatment's budgets. Not an easy task, but has to be done.

Jo, I've been thinking of you today. Did you get your review? Hope everything went well and that you were given a chance to let the boss know how things are around the office. I admire you for your stamina in putting up with some of the things that you do. Way to go. Hope WI goes well tomorrow, and even it it doesn't you will be back in the losing mode by next week. Keep it up.

Carolyn - Sorry to hear that you have been run over by that dreaded wagon, too. Get back up, girl, brush yourself off and hop ON TOP of the wagon. You can do it.

Have a great weekend everyone.


03-25-2002, 01:01 PM

That blasted wagon came running through my area too! Had a craving for Chinese food last week, then went out for Mexican food this weekend. I know better, but boy! did it taste good!

The scales are still being kind to me even after all that slipping and sliding. I was at 244 this morning! That's another pound gone forever!

I'm really fighting for every ounce now. It was soooo easy to put on all this weight but what a job to get it off!

Hugs, Judy