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sweetlovin
04-20-2008, 06:41 PM
I'm trying to do 21 hours of exercise the week of 21-27. that's 3 hours a day. I'm waking up at 4:00 and working out for 2 hours and 1 hour after school

I thought posting it here would motivate me to stick to what I say I'm going to do.

Wish me luck. Time to kick my butt into shape.:) Pretty excited.

(btw, I'm a pretty moderately active teen so it's not like i'm jumping into this completely out of shape. just really want to push myself next week)


lupin
04-20-2008, 06:53 PM
3 hour's .... I'm from tomorrow going to attempt one. As I'm very unfit and currently don't do any exercise at all. I have a treadmill so I'm going to walk fast and run when I can. Maybe alternate 2 min running 2 min walking.

Good luck with your 3 hour's, hope i get there soon. :D

Dea
04-20-2008, 07:32 PM
3 hour's .... I'm from tomorrow going to attempt one. As I'm very unfit and currently don't do any exercise at all. I have a treadmill so I'm going to walk fast and run when I can. Maybe alternate 2 min running 2 min walking.

Good luck with your 3 hour's, hope i get there soon. :D

You may want to check out the C25K thread....a number of us are on the program which is alternating walking/jogging times with the goal of reaching 5K in a 9 week period.

Good luck ladies with 3 hours a week....you will be fit in no time!


rockstar87
04-20-2008, 07:40 PM
Please oh please take a rest day, buddy! It's a great goal to try and up your exercise, but that's really intense. If you want to do your three hours a day I would suggest doing it six days a week; give yourself a breather!

sweetlovin
04-20-2008, 07:45 PM
Please oh please take a rest day, buddy. That's really intense. If you want to do your three hours a day I would suggest doing it six days a week; give yourself a breather!



lol! well I was sick at the beginning of the week so I didn't exercise, then I got lazy and decided not to exercise the rest of the week. Now I want to make up for it.

rockstar87
04-20-2008, 07:47 PM
Yeah...but don't try to do it all in one week! If you were sick your body needs a chance to adjust again. Why not do 2 hours a day 6 times per week over a couple of weeks?

sweetlovin
04-20-2008, 07:52 PM
3 hour's .... I'm from tomorrow going to attempt one. As I'm very unfit and currently don't do any exercise at all. I have a treadmill so I'm going to walk fast and run when I can. Maybe alternate 2 min running 2 min walking.

Good luck with your 3 hour's, hope i get there soon. :D



good luck with with that. i would alternate jogging and walking since it's your first time. (I want to try that cool runner page myself soon)

I'm more of an extreme kick boxer myself (lots of taebo, kickboxing classes, and aerobics). I like to jog as well. I need to stop kicking and jog haha.

GatorgalstuckinGA
04-20-2008, 07:56 PM
good luck...just becareful you don't overdo it and end up hurting your self. That's a lot of exercise in one week and it may cause shin spiints or platar fascitis. I would highly recommend having at least one day of rest...7 days straight and you may end up hurting yourself.

motivation is great! But don't get so crazy you do something that makes it hard for you to workout in the furture. Also, make sure with that much exercising, you are stretching before and after to help prevent injury

sweetlovin
04-20-2008, 07:57 PM
Yeah...but don't try to do it all in one week! If you were sick your body needs a chance to adjust again. Why not do 2 hours a day 6 times per week over a couple of weeks?

I really reallyyy want to kick myself into gear though. Like I want it to be like boot camp style (haha). I want to stop being lazy and just do it. And I'm not working at all next week. I don't know. Next week I'm only going to do two hours. and then after that, 1-2 hours at the most. This is more of a kick start thing..

I'll let you know how it goes though. If i feel overworked, i can always lower my goal. (though im an extremist. i either do too much or too little)

I see you lost 5 more pounds. congrats!

sweetlovin
04-20-2008, 08:02 PM
good luck...just becareful you don't overdo it and end up hurting your self. That's a lot of exercise in one week and it may cause shin spiints or platar fascitis. I would highly recommend having at least one day of rest...7 days straight and you may end up hurting yourself.

motivation is great! But don't get so crazy you do something that makes it hard for you to workout in the furture. Also, make sure with that much exercising, you are stretching before and after to help prevent injury


It's going to be 2 1/2 hours of cardio/aerobics. and 30 minutes of strength training. so not too much strength really.

4:00-6:00 am- cardio

I'll make sure to stretch before and after. Do you guys know any remedies that could get me energized when I wake up that early morning? Some days I'm really hyped up when I wake up, other days, i just want to sleep in. Maybe caffeine could help or green tea...

walking2lose
04-20-2008, 09:25 PM
Going to bed early will help you feel energized when you have to get up early. Just curious - are you in high school, and if so, do your parents know you are doing this?

JayEll
04-20-2008, 10:02 PM
Hey sweetlovin,

I'm really concerned about how extreme your plan sounds. It's not good for anyone to OVERexercise--that just breaks down muscle, leaves you tired, wears your body out.

Exercise isn't meant to be punishment! It's meant to help you be healthy, not wreck you!

It's much better to have a more reasonable period of exercise and stay with it for the long haul. For example, just do 1 hour in the morning. Make it 40 minutes cardio and 20 minutes weights. Make sure you don't use the same weights every day, that is, alternate leg workouts and arm workouts, etc.

That's what I do--and also, I take a walk for half an hour every day. I have limited time for exercise because of my job, but I've been keeping up with the gym and the walk for months now. I do it 5 or 6 times a week, but I take a day off from the gym every three days.

It might be good to talk to your parents about your plan--or to a counselor or other trusted adult, if you're not comfortable talking to one of them.

Good luck--don't overdo it--that's unhealthy... IMO

Jay

Ilene
04-20-2008, 11:17 PM
I totally agree with Jay that your goal should be to be healthy for the long haul and not just for one week, what good or purpose will that serve, .... And why just one week... Instead why not 3 weeks at one hour or 2 per day and this would set you up for a good habit instead of trying to do 3 hours and setting yourself up for failure because it IS a LOT to get up at 4AM ...

Moderation is really the key in everything we do in life...

sweetlovin
04-21-2008, 07:24 AM
Going to bed early will help you feel energized when you have to get up early. Just curious - are you in high school, and if so, do your parents know you are doing this?

they would probably support what im doing. They just want me to reach my goal so i can shut up haha. I honestly don't blame them

& last week, my mom nagged me on how i wasn't working out as much. I was sick and cramping so i guess she influence me in a way to kick it up?

I plan to exercise consistently. I usually do 2-3 times a week. It feels funny when I go a week without doing anything. Idk. The people on those weight loss shows do it all the time. I hate to use that as an example but..

it seems to work for them

sweetlovin
04-21-2008, 07:25 AM
BTW. just did 2 hours. but im counting it as 1.5 hours because I took 3 10 minute breaks.


Going to eat some eggs and lots of veggies. then off to school!

Theres three 1 hr classes at Bally's today and I'm really tempted to do them all. but idk. 4.5 hours in one day IS a bit extreme and pass my goal for the day. so ill see how i feel when I get there.

sweetlovin
04-21-2008, 07:28 AM
Hey sweetlovin,

I'm really concerned about how extreme your plan sounds. It's not good for anyone to OVERexercise--that just breaks down muscle, leaves you tired, wears your body out.

Exercise isn't meant to be punishment! It's meant to help you be healthy, not wreck you!

It's much better to have a more reasonable period of exercise and stay with it for the long haul. For example, just do 1 hour in the morning. Make it 40 minutes cardio and 20 minutes weights. Make sure you don't use the same weights every day, that is, alternate leg workouts and arm workouts, etc.

That's what I do--and also, I take a walk for half an hour every day. I have limited time for exercise because of my job, but I've been keeping up with the gym and the walk for months now. I do it 5 or 6 times a week, but I take a day off from the gym every three days.

It might be good to talk to your parents about your plan--or to a counselor or other trusted adult, if you're not comfortable talking to one of them.

Good luck--don't overdo it--that's unhealthy... IMO

Jay

Yeah I mean I plan to do 1hr a day after this week. I'm calling this week Bootcamp week. idk. I don't want to damage my health. just push myself a bit. (okay a lot but i do listen to my body)

JayEll
04-21-2008, 07:41 AM
Hey sweetlovin! :wave:

Glad to hear you're eating a good breakfast! :hungry:

Yeah, on those weight loss shows they seem to be working out all the time--but the thing is, they have supervision and medical monitoring, and who knows how real it is anyway. I mean they do exercise a LOT, but on TV they only show them grunting and gasping and at their limit, and I'm pretty sure it's not like that for hours on end...

OK, let us know how your bootcamp week goes! :drill: And listen to Mommy Jay and don't overdo! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Jay

st2826
04-21-2008, 07:57 AM
I'm not a fitness expert but 3 hours a day seems way too much!
You could burn yourself out or injure yourself by the end of the week then not be able to exercise the week after-then you'll be back in the "i didnt exercise last week so i'll do more this week" frame of mind-surely not a good thing?

I'm not trying to put you off but mayby only do a couple hours a day or 3 hours 3 or 4 times a week with rest days in between?

rockstar87
04-21-2008, 02:35 PM
I think it's good you're splitting it up at the very least. I've read that you shouldn't exercise more than 2 consecutive hours... and certainly not every day of the week!

I hope your bootcamp week goes well! Don't burn yourself out! You don't want to hate exercise by the time you make it to next week:D

sweetlovin
04-22-2008, 06:03 PM
I'm about to head out to Bally's and do about 3 hours of exercise. not consecutively (I'm stretching and such). I have two classes 1 hr long, and I am going to go on the elliptical or treadmill for an hour after.


I'm doing this class called Urban and Sculpt. It involves a trampoline and weights then yoga fitness which is self explainable. I will update later!


btw. I did an hour this morning. I woke up at 4:00, and somehow dozed off for an hour. i was like whatt? I looked at the time and it was 4:50. It was so insane. I felt like I literally blinked my eyes and opened them and 50 minutes went by. Anyway I have to do an extra hour today to catch up for only doing 2 yesterday. So by the end of today. I will have completely 6 out of 21 hours.

Eating wasn't as good but it was okay.

PhotoChick
04-22-2008, 06:21 PM
Two things to keep in mind:

The more you exercise, the more you need sleep. People who train hardcore NEED 8+ hours of sleep a night for their bodies to regenerate. If you're waking yourself up to go exercise and not getting enough sleep, you're working backwards because eventually your body will rebel.

The more you exercise the more you NEED recovery time. One thing I've learned as I've started lifting more and doing more strength training is that what builds muscle and makes you healthy is NOT the actual workout - it's how your body heals from the damage your workout causes. When you don't allow your body to heal and become stronger, you just build damage upon damage and actually weaken your muscles.

The people who go thru "bootcamp" type exercising are NOT doing it while trying to live a full regular life schedule that includes school, work, etc. The bootcamp exercise experience *IS* their work for the time that they're doing it. Yes, even on the Biggest Loser, they work out 6 to 8 hours a day, but that's ALL THEY DO ... work out, eat, sleep.

You cannot maintain a 3-4 hour exercise schedule and still go to school full time. It's not healthy and you're going to harm more than help.

I would say 2 hours per day max, making sure that you're always cycling so you never work the same set of muscles 2 days in a row. If you want to do a marathon day on Saturday or Sunday, more power to you, but make sure you can get in lots of sleep as well.

rockstar87
04-22-2008, 08:55 PM
I'm about to head out to Bally's and do about 3 hours of exercise. not consecutively (I'm stretching and such). I have two classes 1 hr long, and I am going to go on the elliptical or treadmill for an hour after.

Stretching between hours doesn't mean you aren't doing 3 consecutive hours. Your body needs to rest and to refuel. And PhotoChick is totally right. Working out 3+ hours a day is fine if that's the only kind of physical stress your body has to endure, but you're a growing teen! You go to school everyday! On my best week I get 10hrs in six days, just under 2 hours each day I'm at the gym and that is tough. You have to give your body some time to relax. Working out too hard in the gym and restricting your calories too severely can even have the opposite effect on your weight. How would you feel if you did all this work and at the end of your "bootcamp" week had gained a pound because you didn't give your body the appropriate rest?

You can't get stronger if you don't give your muscles time to repair themselves. Just something to think about :)

sweetlovin
04-22-2008, 10:54 PM
Before I reply to the above posts (which i haven't read yet)... update

Just got back from the gym. I did 2 1/2 hours

I arrived at the gym earlier then I expected. The class I wanted to do was at 6 and I came at 5:30 so I managed to do 25 minutes on the elliptical. Burned about 200 calories (I don't know how accurate those calorie things are but seems about right)



the urban and sculpt was HARD. omg. I think I burned AT LEAST 700 calories. It's nonstop jumping, kicking, and bouncing. But I did realize that I am in great shape compared to the rest of the group. I pretty much did the workouts nonstop with maybe 1 or 2 water breaks. It's surprising how fit I am considering how long it's been since I've had a consistent exercise routine.
It didn't involve weights though which I thought was what the "sculpt" part meant. The toning involved a yoga ball which we twisted left and right while jumping, squats on the trampoline, and lots of ab work towards the end.
I LOVED this class and definitely will do it again. The trainer said I did awesome and could not believe it was my first time.

Then came yoga. Surprising was that the yoga class was EXTREMELY hard. I couldn't do anything! I tried my best though. It was incredibly relaxing and I felt great after.

Then after that class, I definitely wanted to go home. I was starvingggg. But I had to stay an extra 40 minutes. I knew there was no way I could do more cardio because I was way tired so I just did some abs for 10 minutes and sat out on the bench until my mom came.

then I came home and ate rice, beans, cabage and a brownie (small piece!) I was on SBD but I need to plan it out more. I still haven't had the time to go grocery shopping but AS SOON I go to the store, I'm straight back on phase 1. I'm committed to actually following a diet for once.

so
1hr video in morning
+2 hours in classes
+35 minutes in other
-----------
3hrs 35 minutes

6.5/21! :)

Feels like I have a lot left!

GatorgalstuckinGA
04-22-2008, 11:10 PM
ok...the more i read your replies the more worried i get about you. You are extreme in your methods...and with that will come injury. You did quite a lot...very impressive...i know i wouldn't have made it. But that being said..your dinner is not enough for as much as you burned...where's lots of carbs and not a whole lot of protein..which you need if you are building muscles. And like another poster said..you need rest. You're body can't continue at this pace. Its not healthy and you will hurt yourself. Also, you do need 8 hrs of sleep when working that hard. If you don't give your body that much rest, then you will hurt you weight loss/muscle building. I second the opinion about you seeking out some counseling at school. You really are doing some crazy extreme methods that you/your body won't be able to maitain. You need to slow down and think about your body. Please this is a plea from someone who's been there and has seen what damage you can do. I definately encourage you to continue to eat healthy and exercise...but exercise and eat properly to a way that won't cause harm to your body. good luck!

sweetlovin
04-22-2008, 11:14 PM
Stretching between hours doesn't mean you aren't doing 3 consecutive hours. Your body needs to rest and to refuel. And PhotoChick is totally right. Working out 3+ hours a day is fine if that's the only kind of physical stress your body has to endure, but you're a growing teen! You go to school everyday! On my best week I get 10hrs in six days, just under 2 hours each day I'm at the gym and that is tough. You have to give your body some time to relax. Working out too hard in the gym and restricting your calories too severely can even have the opposite effect on your weight. How would you feel if you did all this work and at the end of your "bootcamp" week had gained a pound because you didn't give your body the appropriate rest?

You can't get stronger if you don't give your muscles time to repair themselves. Just something to think about :)
Good advice and I know I should listen but I just don't want to stop now.

Idk, I'm the type of person that if I make a commitment to something, and don't follow though, I just get really upset with myself & beat myself down, so I feel like I have to finish this week just because I already made the commitment to 21 hours and the ticker is kind of pressuring me I feel like I have to move the bar down each day.

But you're right. If I ended up not losing a pound this week, or worse, even gaining, I would be reallyyy upset.

I've noticed I'm more awake in school nowadays ever since I started exercising and I pay attention more.

I did overexercise today though. I'll admit that. I was so tired when I came home. I'll try to tone it down tomorrow a little. Maybe 1 hr of intense exercise and 2 hours of light exercises

sweetlovin
04-22-2008, 11:44 PM
ok...the more i read your replies the more worried i get about you. You are extreme in your methods...and with that will come injury. You did quite a lot...very impressive...i know i wouldn't have made it. But that being said..your dinner is not enough for as much as you burned...where's lots of carbs and not a whole lot of protein..which you need if you are building muscles. And like another poster said..you need rest. You're body can't continue at this pace. Its not healthy and you will hurt yourself. Also, you do need 8 hrs of sleep when working that hard. If you don't give your body that much rest, then you will hurt you weight loss/muscle building. I second the opinion about you seeking out some counseling at school. You really are doing some crazy extreme methods that you/your body won't be able to maitain. You need to slow down and think about your body. Please this is a plea from someone who's been there and has seen what damage you can do. I definately encourage you to continue to eat healthy and exercise...but exercise and eat properly to a way that won't cause harm to your body. good luck!

Sometimes I think I have to choose an extreme, I don't think I'll ever be a "normal" eater. I keep thinking I can but I don't really have a normal. I can't really think of a time where I wasn't thinking about food or making the right choices, or burning calories.

I still think about it now but now i have different extremes. Lately I've been binging or eating away my boredom or loneliness. I think it may be from moving to a new state and not knowing many people.

My theory is that I have to have an extreme and I think I'd rather be exercising my *** off everyday and eating normally and losing weight then starving myself or binging my face off or occasionally purging (done all of above). Frankly, I wish I could eat normal and exercise normal. but idk. Maybe I'm just not normal lol. But I want to get as close to normal as possible and this is my attempt.


Photochick: You actually made some really valid points. I never really thought about all of that stuff. It's just this week though and I will tone it down after. (2 hours most of the week probably would be a good routine for me)

Though speaking of sleep. Still failing in that department. I'm getting a little over 5 hours tonight unfortunately then workouts and school again (ugh school). Caffeine anyone? (and im not even a big coffee person). But Thursday. I have a half day and school starts 3 hours later so I'll get some more sleep. then weekend soon. 31 days until summer!

Night!

JayEll
04-23-2008, 02:51 PM
Hey sweetlovin, I've been reading along about your progress... and I've come to the conclusion that you just don't know enough to be doing what you're doing. :no:

I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but I don't know of any trainer or of anyone who knows about real physical fitness, who would recommend what you're doing with this exercise regimen. It's nuts, IMO! You have chosen to insist on following through on what I think is a BAD plan... Why would you force yourself to do that, when you can just as easily, and more easily, follow through on a GOOD plan?? :dunno:

You don't get any bonus points for doing damage to yourself. Cut back on that made-up goal of 21 hours. Really, sweetlovin, Anybody can "make up" a number--that doesn't mean it's something you actually have to do or even should try to do.

Seriously, think about it. Talk to some people. Sounds like you're on the road to some serious problems here.... I don't want to see you go that way.

Jay

Hat Trick
04-23-2008, 03:47 PM
Sometimes I think I have to choose an extreme, . . . I still think about it now but now i have different extremes.. . .
My theory is that I have to have an extreme and I think I'd rather be exercising my *** off everyday and eating normally and losing weight then starving myself or binging my face off or occasionally purging (done all of above).


SL -- sounds to me like you could use a good counselor. Is there anyone you could take to either at school or in your family? Perhaps the school could recommend someone? I've read your posts; sounds like you are setting yourself up for a disaster. I know you said this '21 hrs of exercise' is for one week, but from your posts it seems to me as if this could become something more than just for a week. You've had eating troubles in the past -- this exercise thing sounds just like that only instead of food you're applying it to the exercise.

Sensible, reasonable exercise; sensible, reasonable eating -- moderation -- will get you your results w/out harm and will keep your health intact. 'Extreme' methods cannot and will not last and will harm instead of help. Please consider talking to someone in person. This website is great but talking to a real person may really help you out. :)

rockstar87
04-23-2008, 04:39 PM
Sensible, reasonable exercise; sensible, reasonable eating -- moderation -- will get you your results w/out harm and will keep your health intact.

Exactly. Moderation. Moderation is sustainable. You can learn to not go from one extreme to another, that's like the definition of a yo-yo dieter. People who starve themselves on a really restrictive plan and end up bingeing afterwards. That's what you're doing, only with exercise. I've done it too. I've gotten up at 4:30 in the morning and gone running three times a day for an hour in an attempt to lose some weight I wasn't losing. Nothing happened. Restrictive plans aren't something you can continue for you the rest of your life and that's why people gain back weight they've lost. You don't still want to be going from one extreme to the next when you're 30 do you?

I get the not feeling "normal" about food. Every morsel I've put in my mouth since I was 14 I've been aware of the calories. I've done the math in my head, regardless of whether I was bingeing or not. I hate eating out at restaurants because I hate not knowing exactly what I'm eating. BUT I still have a piece of chocolate on occasion, I still had a few drinks with my friend on her birthday. You can train yourself to practice "normal" eating habits. It's completely psychological and it takes a while to become accustomed to it but you can do it.

Why not revise your goal to...12hrs. That's 2 hours six days a week which is still very impressive. Changing your goal doesn't mean you failed, it just means you gained some knowledge and took things into account you hadn't before. You revised it. 12 hours of exercise in one week would be very admirable.

sweetlovin
04-23-2008, 05:27 PM
SL -- sounds to me like you could use a good counselor. Is there anyone you could take to either at school or in your family? Perhaps the school could recommend someone? I've read your posts; sounds like you are setting yourself up for a disaster. I know you said this '21 hrs of exercise' is for one week, but from your posts it seems to me as if this could become something more than just for a week. You've had eating troubles in the past -- this exercise thing sounds just like that only instead of food you're applying it to the exercise.

Sensible, reasonable exercise; sensible, reasonable eating -- moderation -- will get you your results w/out harm and will keep your health intact. 'Extreme' methods cannot and will not last and will harm instead of help. Please consider talking to someone in person. This website is great but talking to a real person may really help you out. :)

yeah well I've had most of those eating disorder problems a while ago. I'm fine now and haven't really had a big problem with them for a year now. Of course it's never fully over and it relapses but I've gained all the weight back and I'm at least trying to do things the healthy way. I don't want to talk to anyone about it with a counselor or therapist. I just. don't want to lol. I'm over it and I went to a therapist last week and hated it.

I'm just trying to lose the excess weight I didn't really need to gain from before.

updating...
Anywho, this morning I did 1 hr of exercise. 20 minutes of a walking DVD and I did a kids workout video which was oddly, pretty high paced, then some ab work. I am suppose to do two in the morning but I was REALLY tired from yesterdays workout. that urban rebounding class was a lot of cardio. But I'm off to complete two hours at Bally's. They are offering a class called Hi Lo. I believe it's interval. Couping high intensity with low intensity movements.

then theres a class called power flex. Not sure if I will do that one today. Might just brisk walk around my neighborhood for another hour. We will see. I still need to go grocery shopping. I've just been eating in moderation lately. I haven't been as tempted to eat when I exercise as much as I do.

I ate quite a bit today, well not really actually. Just lots of small snacks and things. I had cereal/toast with coffee for breakfast because of lack of food in the house, then mixed nuts as a snack, steamed rice with teriyaki chicken for lunch, p/b nature valley granola bar. maybe a chicken salad for dinner when I get back.

Pretty hungry now but I want to exercise because when you workout when you exercise, you burn more fat. Atleast thats what "they" say. lol

I'll reply more later. bye

sweetlovin
04-23-2008, 05:43 PM
SL -- sounds to me like you could use a good counselor. Is there anyone you could take to either at school or in your family? Perhaps the school could recommend someone? I've read your posts; sounds like you are setting yourself up for a disaster. I know you said this '21 hrs of exercise' is for one week, but from your posts it seems to me as if this could become something more than just for a week. You've had eating troubles in the past -- this exercise thing sounds just like that only instead of food you're applying it to the exercise.

Sensible, reasonable exercise; sensible, reasonable eating -- moderation -- will get you your results w/out harm and will keep your health intact. 'Extreme' methods cannot and will not last and will harm instead of help. Please consider talking to someone in person. This website is great but talking to a real person may really help you out. :)

lol noooo it's definitely just for one week. I'm pretty burned out as it is. I will exercise a lot because I like it but not this much. Maybe two hours 6 days a week like rocklovin suggested.

I am planning to follow the south beach diet. That should be moderate enough right? I just think I need a book to tell me what to do. I'm really bad on making decisions on my own.

And my problem is I commit to something and I don't fall through which is why I really just want to finish exercising this week. I never do what I say I'm going to do, and I'm sick of it. I want to teach myself discipline in following what I say. I guess you could call this week "punishment" for all the times I didn't complete my goals.

Shy Moment
04-23-2008, 06:03 PM
I just want you to be carefully you aren't hurting yourself. I went from doing 6 miles walking/aerobic videos every week day, plus about 40 min resistance training 3 days a week. To 8 to 10 miles every week day, plus about 40 min resistance training 3 days a week. It felt great for a long time. Now I am having more trouble with the knees than I was before. The advice I was giving to go back down to 6 miles each week day and about 40 min resistance training 3 days a week. That was more than enough for me. Even with only 6 miles of walking/aerobic videos each week day and the resistance training I do 3 days a week that puts me at about 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hours a day but not all at one time.

WE DON'T PUNISH OUR SELFS. We pick our selfs up and move forward. That is a very dangerous way of looking at things. Yesterday is yesterday and there is nothing we can do about it. Today and tomorrow is what we work on.

There is nothing wrong with changing goals when we find we have set them to high. Doing to much is just as bad for the body as doing not enough.

JayEll
04-23-2008, 06:17 PM
Great idea--be sure to READ THE BOOK for South Beach Diet and follow it exactly--lots of people skip that very important part of the program.

I went to the gym and did 30 minutes on the elliptical, 20 minutes on weight machines and free weights. That's all I need to do to stay fit and keep my weight steady.

Jay

sweetlovin
04-23-2008, 06:21 PM
Shy Moment- wow you exercise a lot.

UGH my mom said I can't go to my Hi/Lo class today. That pisses me off sooo bad. I was actually looking forward to it.

Now have to go to the gym in my neighborhood on the elliptical or treadmill. I hate not being able to drive!

I don't think I've set my goal to high. I think I'm perfectly capable of meeting 21 hours this week. It's not like I'm running 21 hours this week. Som

I can't give up. I'm like addicted to accomplishing this. I know I should listen to you guys because you guys probably know better but it's only this week. Next week, I will listen to the advice on the thread. I really don't see how 7 days could really hurt me. I'm fine after doing 7.5 hours. a bit sore but fine.

I am sooo pissed I can't go to my class though. That screws up with my planing so badly. Maybe jogging and the elliptical

Ruthxxx
04-23-2008, 06:26 PM
Well, you've received lots of good advice. It's up to you whether or not you take it.

Ilene
04-23-2008, 06:32 PM
Hi Sweetlovin :wave: ....


Here is an article I found on-line Compulsive Exercising (http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/behavior/compulsive_exercise.html)

I find this part very interesting: (I've highlighted the parts that I find interesting...

Why Is Exercising Too Much a Bad Thing?

We all know that regular exercise is an important part of a healthy lifestyle. But few people realize that too much can cause physical and psychological harm:

* Excessive exercise can damage tendons, ligaments, bones, cartilage, and joints, and when minor injuries aren't allowed to heal, they often result in long-term damage. Instead of building muscle, too much exercise actually destroys muscle mass, especially if the body isn't getting enough nutrition, forcing it to break down muscle for energy.
* Girls who exercise compulsively may disrupt the balance of hormones in their bodies. This can change their menstrual cycles (some girls lose their periods altogether, a condition known as amenorrhea) and increase the risk of premature bone loss (a condition known as osteoporosis). And of course, working their bodies so hard leads to exhaustion and constant fatigue.
* An even more serious risk is the stress that excessive exercise can place on the heart, particularly when someone is also engaging in unhealthy weight loss behaviors such as restricting intake, vomiting, and using diet pills or supplements. In extreme cases, the combination of anorexia and compulsive exercise can be fatal.



I know I should listen to you guys because you guys probably know better but it's only this week. Next week, I will listen to the advice on the thread. YES, please make it last ONLY a week or LESS .... Because we do care about you :hug:...

May I ask a question? Is your mom not letting you go to your class because she too thinks that you are overexercising?

rockstar87
04-23-2008, 07:25 PM
I ate quite a bit today, well not really actually. Just lots of small snacks and things. I had cereal/toast with coffee for breakfast because of lack of food in the house, then mixed nuts as a snack, steamed rice with teriyaki chicken for lunch, p/b nature valley granola bar. maybe a chicken salad for dinner when I get back.

Pretty hungry now but I want to exercise because when you workout when you exercise, you burn more fat. Atleast thats what "they" say. lol

I'll reply more later. bye

Your food today seems significantly better than what it was the last time you posted. It's still low for the amount of exercise you're doing, but it is much better. It's good you're incorporating more protein to help repair your muscles.

P.S. You should eat about an hour before you workout, especially at the intensity you are. Having available blood sugar will help you get the most out of your workouts so if you are hungry before the gym eat!

Shy Moment
04-23-2008, 08:00 PM
Sweetlovin
We aren't talking I do all that exercise at one time lol. I make sure I eat carbs before I exercise and protein afterwords. A two mile video is only 28 to 33 min long. I do them three times a day. If I decide to do a 5 mile videos ( about 70 min ). I wait much longer between doing some other kind of exercise. You really don't want to do to much at one time. I hope you aren't hoping for quick weight loss or that more exercise is going to make you lose weight faster. For some people this does work ( the quicker weight loss ) for me, I am losing about 1 pound a week and was doing this before I started to exercise. Exercise has made no difference at all in the speed I am losing weight. Exercise is to tone the body. Sure it burns calories but we exercise to tone, to burn fat, to get into shape. This is how I look at it. I eat the required amounts of the four basic food groups each day. I make sure I am not under 1200 calories a day. I exercise. THE SIDE EFFECT of this is to lose weight, and get into shape. What great side effects.

Oh, don't curse. Do you know, many people don't take a person serious that has to curse to get their point across. Ok, that was the mother coming out in me :)

sweetlovin
04-23-2008, 10:59 PM
Hi Sweetlovin :wave: ....


Here is an article I found on-line Compulsive Exercising (http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/behavior/compulsive_exercise.html)

I find this part very interesting: (I've highlighted the parts that I find interesting...



YES, please make it last ONLY a week or LESS .... Because we do care about you :hug:...

May I ask a question? Is your mom not letting you go to your class because she too thinks that you are overexercising?
yahh but it's annoying.

One second she's like, "Your getting fat" or "why aren't you exercising" and when I gain a bit of weight and I am upset about it, she goes "well, what do you expect? You're not trying hard enough"

I already low enough on myself sometimes and I don't need someone helping me haha.

EH whatever. Honestly, I haven't binged for quite a few days and I think it's due to me coming here and writing about my daily trials and the exercise has helped too.

I haven't loss any weight yet but I'm not worrying about it. I keep weighing myself at odd times and it says I'm 160 pounds which I knew is probably due to dehydration and me retaining water because I've been drinking about 7-8 glasses but I know I need way more since I'm sweating.

I'm not going to worry about my weight this week too much. I'm sure the results will come soon.

I only managed to do 1hr 20 minutes today. Mostly because of my mom not letting me go to my classes at 5:30. Idk what I'm going to do.

I may have to lower my goal. *shocker* Maybe 18 or 19 hours would be better. That way if I make it to 21, I will overachieve my goal.

sweetlovin
04-23-2008, 11:03 PM
Your food today seems significantly better than what it was the last time you posted. It's still low for the amount of exercise you're doing, but it is much better. It's good you're incorporating more protein to help repair your muscles.

P.S. You should eat about an hour before you workout, especially at the intensity you are. Having available blood sugar will help you get the most out of your workouts so if you are hungry before the gym eat!

Thanks for the tip. Yeah I am trying to add a lot more protein. I guess after reading the South Beach Diet book, I realized how important proteins and vegetables are compared to carbs.

sweetlovin
04-23-2008, 11:09 PM
Well, you've received lots of good advice. It's up to you whether or not you take it.

Yeah I have received a lot of good advice on this forum. I think I would be doing way worser things without this board being in my conscious haha.

I lowered my goal just now. Only 3 hours less but I figured it was going to be impossible. 18 hours isn't too bad for a week. ( I suppose ;) )

Shy Moment
04-24-2008, 01:04 AM
sweet
There was a question I wanted to ask you and I forgot. How long did it take you to build up to the amount of hours of exercise you are wanting to do a week?

sweetlovin
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
sweet
There was a question I wanted to ask you and I forgot. How long did it take you to build up to the amount of hours of exercise you are wanting to do a week?

I never really built up to anything/prepare. I'm not too out of shape at all so I guess I just went for it. I exercise usually 2-3 times a week almost all the time anyway, but that's on average. some weeks i don't do anything.


Anyway I was sick this morning with a headache. I think my sleeping pattern this week is really throwing me off.

Anyway I didn't really lose any weight. I hate life haha.

I need to go shopping and then focus on eating more then exercise anyway. I bet that's more important. I'll probably do about 4 more hours before the week is over. I'm pretty much over it. I could have done it but it seems like a waste of time about this time.

ahh u know. sometimes I would rather be fat then worry about all this crap. already have enough going on my life

too bad being fat makes me depressed. :( I wish I was a happy fat person.

I don't even have that much to lose. maybe 20-30 pounds. Some of you chicks have like 100-200 pounds to lose and 20 pounds is like a drop in the bucket. I don't get why it's so difficult for me to lose a couple pounds.

Shy Moment
04-25-2008, 06:20 PM
Sweet
Oh I do understand when you say you wish you could be a happy fat person lol. Let me tell you a secret. Being thin does not make a person happy. There are a great deal of rich, thin people in the world that are not happy. Good heavens, just look at the papers at the super market. Those woman are pretty, thin, rich and they sure aren't happy. I joke with my 17 year old when we read those papers in the check out line. I wish I had those womans problems. With that kind of money they just don't know where to shop for happiness lol. You have to like yourself even when you don't look the way you want to look. Each of us is a very special person. God has a reason for us to be here even if it is only to make someone smile or to say a kind word to someone right when they really need to hear a kind word. We are all important.

The way to lose weight is to watch what you eat, and I don't mean watch it while you eat it lol. We are no longer on a see food diet around here, just because we see it, doesn't mean we have to eat it.

I can only tell you what I do. There is a reason why the foot pyramid was created. So we get the required amounts of things into our body. If you aren't against meat products here is an example. Bread/cereal group 6 a day, meat 2 a day, dairy 2 a day, fruit 2 a day, veggies 3 a day. These are the least amounts a person needs to eat to be healthy. It is really easy to look on line to see how much of something fills a food group. You will be surprised how you need to eat to get all those required amounts eaten a day. My gosh, it takes me from the time I get up until I go to bed most days to eat them all. You might have to eat more at one time instead of 6 to 8 times a day like I do since you are in school.

Yes, we need to exercise but exercise isn't about losing weight. Sure it burns calories, sure it tones the body but exercise is for so much more than that. Exercise works the heart and the lungs, blood is pumped and oxygen is taken to all parts of the body. The body lovessssss oxygen. The more fit the body is the better it works. We can exercise to much and hurt our selfs. I had to lower the amount of miles I was doing a day because I was beating up my knees and I have been doing this for months consistently. All of us make mistakes and we learn from them.

Losing weight and keeping it off is about consistency. Eating a good healthy diet of all the things we need. Not just today and tomorrow but forever. Getting a healthy amount of exercise and doing other things in life that we have to do or we like to do. Life is about balance. We all want to lose it fast. We didn't gain it in a day or a month and we probably aren't going to lose it that fast either. I know it is hard when a person is younger to think about 6 months or a year down the road but believe me. You start to eat healthy and get a bit of exercise in and you are going to see the weight coming off and by the time Christmas rolls around you are going to be in much better shape than you are now.

sweetlovin
04-25-2008, 06:59 PM
I have an issue with the food pyramid because it's really confusing to me with the quantities, what counts as a serving etc..

the thing is, I am pretty happy with mostly everything in my life but I think being thin would make me so much better. Being this size really holds me back

I didn't even go to the mall with my sisters because I felt way to big to buy anything.

I actually haven't been shopping in months because of my weight. I keep thinking I'm going to but I going shopping can be very depressing for me if im not confident enough. I love clothes but I avoid shopping as much as possible, especially when im at my highest weight (like now) because I break down and cry once in a while. I just am having a hard time getting use to my body considering how much it has changed. Especially when I have to get a size bigger.

It's the truthh.

Exercise isn't about losing weight. I know. I think I was actually trying to take my mind off food and push myself more then losing weight because im honestly not that pissed off that im the same weight today. I'm just glad I actually did it to begin with and I pushed myself and I woke up early all those days.

How much exercise (in hours) do you think I should aim for. 10?

idk my mom is annoying me because I have to walk to the GROCERY STORE today on my own and carry the bags back to the house because she doesn't give two craps about me and my plans. She jokes around with my weight issues like it's some sort of game and it's not. So she told me to walk and get my groceries. And that's what im going to do.

she annoys me so much. It's not a joke. I am trying here and having the help of my family would actually make is possible for me to reach my goal. but no. it's just some big joke. A joke that I have to spend the small amount of money I have from my job at the mall and buy food for the south beach diet. Considering I'm only getting two hours this week, that annoys me alot. I wonder how long 100 dollars of groceries is going to last? hmm.

i guess we will see. I should be on my way. daylight is going away in about an hour

Shy Moment
04-25-2008, 07:44 PM
sweet
Because you do live at home and being on diet plans can cost a lot of money. Maybe you should try to eat healthy from what is already at the house if you can. I would say maybe ( I am sure no expert ) an hour of some kind of cardio, maybe walking/aerobic videos for example 3 times a week and maybe 30 min or so of some kind of resistance training 3 times a week. Maybe, do something different each day and give yourself one day off a week from doing anything. Why do your parents think you wanting to lose weight is a joke? Don't they think you need to lose weight? Have you really sat down with her and talked about your worry of being over weight? Letting her know you are serious about this and you need her support?

rockstar87
04-25-2008, 08:51 PM
Sweet - I think you need to talk to your mom. Find out why she's not taking your weight loss efforts seriously and explain to her why it's important to you, like Shy said.

Second, are you sure you need to lose 20 or 30lbs? One thing you have to consider is that the last few pounds are usually the hardest. Severely restricting your calories and adding a ton of exercise could easily have the opposite effect. I think using the food pyramid is a great idea for you. As a teen, you're still growing and attaining a healthy weight is important. There are tips you can use for determining serving size like the size of your palm is a serving of meat, the tip of your thumb is a tablespoon (there's a name for these rules and I can't remember them...anyone?). Google it. You need to focus on overall nutrition and not just calorie restriction. I restricted my calories too low as a teen (the same way an adult who was finished growing might) and it totally backfired. My metabolism was shot.

Don't you feel burnt out now? I bet you're tired from getting up early and trying to squeeze in all that exercise. I bet it added even more stress to your day - sure you felt great when you achieved it, but when you didn't it bothered you, right? And since you didn't lose any weight you probably don't want to do anything because well...what's the point? That's what you want to try and avoid. It's a slow process for the most part and you don't want to kill yourself and expect results so fast that you get disappointed when you don't. Slow and steady, buddy...

As far as exercise is concerned, I would say aim for an hour five days a week. Anything more is bonus :). Somedays you can hit the gym, but maybe other days you could just do something fun that's also active. I played hockey twice a week as a teen and loved it. It wasn't "working out" it was just a sport. I didn't think of it as "wow I"m burning so many calories right now" and it was a nice way to break things up. I think you should set an easily attainable goal in terms of exercise and if you can add more - great! If not, you still achieved what you wanted to.

And I really hope you'll talk to your mom (calmly :)) and you can arrive to some sort of mutual understanding.

sweetlovin
04-25-2008, 10:37 PM
Good News!

I just went grocery shopping. I am going on the South Beach Diet tomorrow (finally! for real this time). I really like the idea behind it because I do feel like carbs are my weakness and if that plan can wean me off of it, then I'd love to give it a try.

Not to mention I already bought the book soo.. haha.

Um i bought a lot of healthy foods and I spent 108 dollars. Not too shabby. I was so scared it was going to be 170 or something because that's all I had in my wallet so far.

I'm actually starting to gain a bit of my sanity now. I realized that maybe my goal WAS a bit too high and I need to be a bit nicer to myself (okay a lot nicer to myself)

It's just sometimes I have these moments where I get super frustrated and I want to go to extremes. It usually happens if I mess up a little too much and I gain a little too much, then my mind is like "got to fix it. NOW. got to get rid of it now. right now!" and it doesn't matter what anybody says, the only thing that matters at that period of time is that I get rid of the weight, or the damage. Anything that's said goes through one ear through the other, and im like "okay ill listen to that later, but not now. just got to get rid of it!". No matter what it takes. Bad thought process, I know.

I'm glad I didn't go shopping with my sisters though for two reasons:

1) I would have ruined the experience for them("I look fat in this! ugh!") even though one of my sisters weights like 70 pounds more then me and is perfectly fine with shopping.
2) I would have spent my money that I just used on eating healthier.

Bad news: I ate like crap today.

I guess it's because I knew I was going to eat really healthy from now on. haha probably ate like 2500 calories or something like that. wow.

Everyone keeps saying I need to see a therapist but I honestly think I am getting a lot better on my own. Even though I have times where I am in e.d mode, I usually snap out of it and realize it's not worthed it. I've been through so much with that stuff already, i really DON'T want to go back to that. It was traumatizing. I really do want to do it the healthiest way possible. As hard as that is to believe. Like I said, sometimes I have my moments.

About my mom. She's weird. i mean, don't get me wrong. I love her and everything and she's good (annoying but good) but...

Well, I've been having weight issues for about 2-3 years now? So I guess you could say my entire family wants me to stfu about it. I don't blame them AT ALL. I actually can't really blame my mom either. I can admit that I have been annoying at times, but I wish she would realize it is a serious issue.

I have been on so many diets. I guess she is frustrated with me. When I told her about this plan, she didn't really care anymore. I was on slimfast and I ate differently then I eat on this plan. I eat differently on south beach then I do on just a "healthy eating" plan. So every plan has me eating different types of food, then I end up not liking it because it isn't sustainable. South Beach is probably going to be the healthiest I tried

But she jokes around and it frustrates me. Like once I decided to fast for 4-5 days and on the 3rd day, I ate a banana and she laughed at me for giving up. I mean she just doesn't take my problems seriously. The only time she cared about my weight problems was when i was around 100 pounds walking around like a stick from a concentration camp. (and still thinking i was fat btw)

She also points out when i'm gaining weight and why I'm not doing anything. I am always completely aware of this. Sometimes some of my weight issues arise from being so frustrated with her. She lowers my confidence more then I do myself, and picks on me when I do something drastic.

She doesn't know what anorexia is, or what I had in the past, or even that I had an eating disorder. I've tried to explain my issues with food but it just doesn't click with her so it causes a lot of frustration on my side and on her side because I feel like she doesn't care about something that has a huge impact on my life.

sweetlovin
04-25-2008, 11:00 PM
Sweet - I think you need to talk to your mom. Find out why she's not taking your weight loss efforts seriously and explain to her why it's important to you, like Shy said.

Second, are you sure you need to lose 20 or 30lbs? One thing you have to consider is that the last few pounds are usually the hardest. Severely restricting your calories and adding a ton of exercise could easily have the opposite effect. I think using the food pyramid is a great idea for you. As a teen, you're still growing and attaining a healthy weight is important. There are tips you can use for determining serving size like the size of your palm is a serving of meat, the tip of your thumb is a tablespoon (there's a name for these rules and I can't remember them...anyone?). Google it. You need to focus on overall nutrition and not just calorie restriction. I restricted my calories too low as a teen (the same way an adult who was finished growing might) and it totally backfired. My metabolism was shot.

Don't you feel burnt out now? I bet you're tired from getting up early and trying to squeeze in all that exercise. I bet it added even more stress to your day - sure you felt great when you achieved it, but when you didn't it bothered you, right? And since you didn't lose any weight you probably don't want to do anything because well...what's the point? That's what you want to try and avoid. It's a slow process for the most part and you don't want to kill yourself and expect results so fast that you get disappointed when you don't. Slow and steady, buddy...

As far as exercise is concerned, I would say aim for an hour five days a week. Anything more is bonus :). Somedays you can hit the gym, but maybe other days you could just do something fun that's also active. I played hockey twice a week as a teen and loved it. It wasn't "working out" it was just a sport. I didn't think of it as "wow I"m burning so many calories right now" and it was a nice way to break things up. I think you should set an easily attainable goal in terms of exercise and if you can add more - great! If not, you still achieved what you wanted to.

And I really hope you'll talk to your mom (calmly :)) and you can arrive to some sort of mutual understanding.

I've been seeing you help me a lot Thanks haha. I guess you find me interesting? jk jk


I'll try SB and if that isn't sustainable (which I think it will be) then I'll take a look at the food pyramid idea.

I really don't get how I ended up staying the same weight or gained? How is that possible? I was exercising soo much. Gosh, humans just don't make any sense! What is up with us?! Ah I'm not even going to go into that.

Actually I really enjoyed exercising in the morning. Just not two hours. Maybe one would be nicer? It kept me awake the first two periods of class, then I would eat a snack and stay awake another two periods or class, then lunch, stay awake another two periods of class, then I would stay awake in 7th period because I was excited to go home.

5 hours seems so little compared to what I did this week, but it's definitely achievable, even on weeks when I'm lazy. Some days I can do 2 hours a day. One in the morning, one after school. But aiming for AT LEAST 5 hours seems like a really easy goal.

I really love intense cardio. Like I ordered turbo jam the other day. I love this kick boxing class at my gym, and I love the urban & sculpt I did the other day. My workouts are really fun actually. (probably how i managed to do 3 hrs a day) Sometimes I do something boring stuff like eliptical or treadmill, but I usually do something I want to do (somewhat). I have REALLY hard time doing toning stuff because I hate it. I just like jumping around. Lunges and weights are soo boring to me. The only toning thing I like is pilates.


idk this summer I plan to take up kickboxing and dance. Maybe do some 5k's too. (random offtopic info )

How much weight should I aim for a week. I know they say 1 pound is healthy. But what about 2? I might go crazy losing one pound because I lose a pound when I come home from school sometimes and gain it 5 hours later. I would never know what was real weight loss or just random fluctuations.

Oh well. I guess I shouldn't worry about it. Is there anyway that I can keep my weight steadier so it doesn't change as much so I know when i am losing actually? I have a lot of trouble seeing it in the mirror.

rockstar87
04-26-2008, 01:57 AM
I really don't get how I ended up staying the same weight or gained? How is that possible? I was exercising soo much. Gosh, humans just don't make any sense! What is up with us?! Ah I'm not even going to go into that.

If you don't have that much weight to lose and try to create a huge calorie deficit your body panics (it's a survival mechanism from way back when humans went through periods of famine) and fights like crazy to hold onto your fat because it thinks it will need it later. It's not getting enough food to feel as though you can safely drop weight because you don't have that much weight to drop...so what happens if you need it later?

5 hours seems so little compared to what I did this week, but it's definitely achievable, even on weeks when I'm lazy. Some days I can do 2 hours a day. One in the morning, one after school. But aiming for AT LEAST 5 hours seems like a really easy goal.

That's the point! Even the weeks when you're really "lazy" you'll still get it done and you won't feel like you failed or anything. Weeks you can do more, do more! (I would suggest taking at least one day off a week and doing no more than two hours a day though...at least no more than two consecutive hours a day. That's means no more than two hours without taking a break to refuel.)

If you enjoy your workouts then that's awesome. Stick with the things you like. I'm with you, I love really intense stuff so if you like it, go for it! Just make sure you eat food that will provide you with the energy you need to sustain you through the workouts and stay hydrated.

How much weight should I aim for a week. I know they say 1 pound is healthy. But what about 2? I might go crazy losing one pound because I lose a pound when I come home from school sometimes and gain it 5 hours later. I would never know what was real weight loss or just random fluctuations.

Oh well. I guess I shouldn't worry about it. Is there anyway that I can keep my weight steadier so it doesn't change as much so I know when i am losing actually? I have a lot of trouble seeing it in the mirror.

1-2lbs is healthy. Fluctuations happen for a variety of different reasons. It can be water weight, time of day, how much sodium you've had, TOM, circadian rhythms...TONS of stuff contributes to weight fluctuation. You can't really keep your weight "steadier". Drinking water might help with some of the water bloat, but you'll still have fluctuations. To note the actual difference in your weight you should weigh in once a week at the same time, wearing the same clothes. I know some people weigh-in more frequently (I'm one of them :o) but I only count it as an official "weigh-in" once a week because of fluctuations. I could go to the gym in the morning and then again at night and have gained 1.5lbs. It happens to everyone. Because you don't have a lot of (if any) weight to lose (I think you mentioned in another thread you're pretty tall, right?) 1lb a week is great. It all adds up eventually.

What I would suggest is googling BMI calculator. See what it says about your current weight and then check your goal weight. You want to shoot for a goal that's healthy, not something too low. And I'm sure you don't want to lose all the muscle tone all your working out has been giving you because you tried to diet yourself down to an unnaturally low weight. Sometimes people feel "fat" because they still feel flabby when they're really at healthy weight and just need to tone up a bit and limit the junk food.