100 lb. Club - What is your opinion on the BPA in the Nalgene water bottles?




Jen
04-19-2008, 03:25 AM
I'm assuming most people know about the 'toxic' chemical BPA that is in a lot of hard plastic containers including some of the Nalgene water bottles. If your bottle has a #7 inside that recycling symbol and the initials PC under it then it has this chemical. I don't know what to think because there is so much conflicting information out there. The plastic industry says one thing, studies say another, governments say stuff, I just don't know what to think. I hate to toss them out because I love my Nalgene bottles!


jitterfish
04-19-2008, 05:48 AM
It is hard when you are getting information from the media, the research can say one things that gets twisted a whole lot. Personally I figure there are so many things that can be considered toxic (remember the research about anything baked or fried is carcinogenic?), so much conflicting evidence that I leave it to the experts. Wait and see what FDA etc do or say, wait and see what other kinds of research come to light. Of course I am a scientist, as a rule we tend to always want more data until we are convinced! I do think if I was using baby bottle with BPA I might wonder more about it - not sure what the option really is though other than glass?

Beverlyjoy
04-19-2008, 05:56 AM
I heard a physician talking about this on the Today show this week. She says to be aware of this. She suggested that folks get a water bottle stainless steel or hard plastic.

She was particularly concerned about this chemical leaching out from baby bottles. Walmart is pulling all baby bottles with this chemical in the plastic.

I often resuse a water bottles. My husband suggested I stop doing this. I am going to read more about it.


beautifulone
04-19-2008, 09:23 AM
I agree, I feel very confused.

And probably distrustful but I have to say, I don't completely trust the government and federal health authorities, or research entirely either. Research can be so biased these days - especially when you consider who funds it. The government - the thing about the government is that different governments make different decisions about the same products. Just look at the FDA and Health Canada. Surely, you'd think there was a uniform decision about something but some take more risks than others, which makes me weary.

Anyways, here is a link I thought you guys might appreciate:

http://www.northern-spirit.ca/index.php?cPath=21

It's for SIGG bottles - they are made of one piece aluminum that is coated with something to make the aluminum leak free. I'm sure there is more information available if you wish to read about it.

Suzanne 3FC
04-19-2008, 09:38 AM
I've decided to give it up, as well as any plastics other than PET 1 and even then only if I plan to actually recycle it. It's not like it's something I can't live without, and there are plenty of known safe and more planet friendly alternatives out there.

The SIGGs look nice :)

SoulBliss
04-19-2008, 09:40 AM
I go stainless steel, baby, all the way! ;)

http://www.kleankanteen.com/

zenor77
04-19-2008, 11:38 AM
I try to stay away from plastic as much as I can and I NEVER microwave in plastic. From what I understand, heat leaches the chemicals out of plastic faster. Which means leaving a bottle of water in a hot car is a no no as well.

I have a klean kanteen and I love it! Not only do you not risk the chemicals, but bacteria can't live on stainless steel so it much easier to keep clean. Built NY also make neat neoprene water bottle holders that fit my kanteen perfectly. It stays cold and I can snap it to my jeans or my purse while I'm out. Plus, you are keeping water bottles out of the landfill.

My thoughts on all the conflicting information is this: A. I never completely believe information that comes from the industry set up to benefit the most. B. I don't completely believe the government since they can be bought by said industries. I feel it's necessary to really look carefully at the studies to see whats really going on. C. Why risk it when it's so easy to switch to a stainless steel/coated aluminum bottle. Bottled water wasn't always available and I still see water fountains everywhere.

Nori71
04-19-2008, 01:11 PM
I'm transitioning away from most plastics as well. I use SIGG. Love it! I have this one in purple:
http://www.reusablebags.com/store/images/products/SIG-10-Maha.jpg

ChrissyBean
04-19-2008, 03:36 PM
What's not to believe? Plastics are petroleum products--they CAN'T be good for us. When I treadmill, I take a glass of water with me. When I go walking outdoors (not very often LOL) I take a Tupperware/Rubbermaid kind of bottle.

Jen
04-20-2008, 02:52 PM
Thanks everyone for their replies. I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels like we aren't getting the complete story on this. I've been reading through tons of stuff on the internet and it is so hard to know what is right. What I would really like to know bottom line is that if I hand wash my bottles, don't put hot liquid in them or allow them to get hot in the sun or a hot car is this BPA still leaching out into the water? From one web site I got that there is BPA everywhere, not just on these products but literally everywhere, in the air, municipal water, soil etc etc. It exits your body in 6 hours but since it is everywhere almost everyone has a measurable level in their body (according to this web site). I agree that it is better to be safe than sorry especially as far as the baby bottles go and if I need them I will buy the BPA free ones (hoping that there isn't some other chemical that is so far unknown to be leaching out of the plastic). Looking at the aluminum and stainless steal bottles, boy they are expensive though but I guess this is definately a case of getting what you pay for. They are expensive but safe.

Darkblue
04-20-2008, 03:44 PM
I go stainless steel, baby, all the way! ;)

http://www.kleankanteen.com/

Thanks for this link, SoulBliss! I've been trying to find a good stainless steel bottle for a while. I ordered one a few minutes ago. If I like it, I'll get the family a bottle each for Christmas.

SoulBliss
04-20-2008, 04:16 PM
You're welcome! They are a bit pricey but they last forever and if one adds up the cost of buying bottled water (combined with the waste of it all) it is such a good choice, really. ;)

Chrysalis
04-20-2008, 04:23 PM
If it has a 7 but not PC under it (actually, it says "other") does that mean it doesn't have this chemical? I just checked the 5-gal bottle I use for my water cooler, and it's a 7 "Other", not a 7 PC.

SoulBliss
04-20-2008, 04:33 PM
I'm not an authority on this, but as far as I have been told, YES. If it isn't listed as polycarbonate (PC) it isn't polycarbonate.

SwimGirl
04-20-2008, 05:02 PM
I've not new to this subject, my mom has been warning me about using plastic bottles for a good 5 years. She switched over to glass bottles 13 years ago, and we all got SIGG's for christmas! There has been such bad info out there about plastic for years, and since there are such good alternatives, I figured for me it was time to switch. Do a little research, and figure out what's best for you. Don't let others make this decision for you, this is your health and safety, take some control!

-Aimee

ShadesofGray
04-20-2008, 07:42 PM
It's for SIGG bottles - they are made of one piece aluminum that is coated with something to make the aluminum leak free. I'm sure there is more information available if you wish to read about it.

I second the Sigg bottle recommendation. I have one and I LOVE it. They're really lightweight and durable. The first couple times you use it, the water tastes a little metal-y, but after that there's no aftertaste. Plus, they have such pretty designs. I know they're a little pricey, but if you buy one, it will last for years and years.

Nori71
04-20-2008, 09:35 PM
The first couple times you use it, the water tastes a little metal-y, but after that there's no aftertaste. I didn't notice that with mine. And it doesn't get slimy or stinky like my Nalgene used to.

My little girls love their children's version also.:D

bluex
04-21-2008, 02:03 AM
I don't know if I am rough on things, but my sigg bottle got big huge dents within the first weeks of use. I don't know if I will spend the money on that kind of bottle again because really, durable.. I don't know. Just don't drop your new bottles.

SwimGirl
04-21-2008, 03:35 AM
bluex - there is always a possibility for there to be a bad one in the bunch, perhaps you were unlucky enough to have gotten that one? I am REALLY rough on mine, dropped it more times than I'd like to admit. heh. How much did yours cost? Mine was a gift, so I'm not entirely sure how much they paid for mine. But I have seen them in certain places for 12 bucks.

-Aimee

zenor77
04-21-2008, 03:46 AM
blueex~Why not try a stainless steel bottle? Siggs are made from aluminum (correct me if wrong) which is much softer then steel.

Jen~Another thing to think about is how clean you get your plastic bottles. From what I've been told, it's much much harder to really get plastic clean. If the surface isn't completely smooth, germs can hid in the tiny crevices. I used to work in the wine industry and plastic carboys (#7 plastic) was a no no because it's so hard to clean.

NESunshine
04-21-2008, 11:37 AM
I've been using Nalgene bottles for well over 10 years now. As far as the ones I've collected over the years I'm not going to get rid of them but I don't leave water in them for extended periods, or leave them in hot cars, or put hot liquids in them. It's funny to see this thread, my BF and I just stopped yesterday to peek for some stainless steel waterbottles to make a switch. The store we went to, lets just say a major sporting goods/outdoor store did not even have anything stainless steel on the shelves which I thought was very strange...maybe they were all out, but we couldn't find a mention of stainless anywhere....
He ordered 2 Klean Canteens online this morning for us, good to see a couple of reviews here. I'm not sure what I believe, I think I will watch how it all plays out. I do know, the stainless bottles he ordered have sports tops and my nalgene's don't so I'm sure that will be the option I use more.

Jen
04-22-2008, 01:17 PM
I'm going to keep using my bottles as well because I don't think I will be getting anymore BPA than anyone else considering that according to some of these websites it is everywhere anyways! My Nalgene bottles don't get slimy or smelly and I think they get clean enough with the antibacterial dishsoap that I use. I don't think there is any point in getting all worked up about making sure they are practically sterile, let's face it germs are everywhere and in someways I think we overdo making sure everything is ultra clean because we get rid of some of the good bacteria in our quest to get rid of the bad bacteria.

Switzie6
04-22-2008, 01:32 PM
I just bought a SIGG yesterday. I had been hearing about the plastic number 7 and my old bottle has a 7, so thought it would be better to be safe. Plus I got one that has pretty pink flowers on it :) I got it about $5 cheaper then online at Wegman's Grocery Store, plus not waiting for it to be delivered. Though I think Wegman's is only in the Northeast and not everywhere, ours was just built this year.