General Diet Plans and Questions - The Beck Diet Solution – March 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach

Good morning all!
onebyone: great job on NOT going to the indian restaurant. for me,it wouldn't have been about eating til over stuffed but more about--that is too good of a deal to pass up! that's why i used to supersize, it's only 30 cents more! it's CHEAPER to do that than to get a regular size meal. but i have since changed my thinking on that. it maybe cheaper at the moment but plus size clothes cost more than misses size clothes!

bill: you are always so full of good advice. and i too hav etrouble making myself floss so i would be just as excited to hear from a pro that i am flossing well. i agree... we should be able to have a beck checkup where the doc just looks at us and says yep, your doing it right!

Nessa: glad your day was better! i did sb for awhile so i know the basic rules, but can you come off the plan for one meal ( say dinner out where you won't have much choices) or will it really be a set back? i know some plans are so strict that if you come off for even one meal you have to start at the beginning again. well i wish you luck and don't worry about how long you have worked and that you are not at goal yet. they say the slower you lose it the longer it stays off. and you have still lost alot of weight!
as for me well coaches, i ate an unplanned portion of my dinner last night. i didn't even try to talk myself out of it, i just zoned out and did what my rebellious side said! but not to worry, i am back on track today. i think that so far that what i have learned most from beck is to get right back at it and not let one slip back track me for days or weeks even.
credit moi for getting back on track today and not making excuse to stay off plan!
today i am going to be working on day 8: making time for diet and exercise. i will be meeting with my live action coach. i love all of you, my ecoaches, my i get instant feed back from my live action coach. anyway she is amazing, she teaches aerobics at my gym, but she used to weigh 350 pounds! i can't even imagine not only being able to comfortably take aerobics and keeping up but to actually teaching it!! it's just awesome, maybe one day i will be teaching aerobics and helping others to lose weight!
anyway i have to get busy, hope everyone has a great day!
amy

hi everyone,

was thinking about onebyone's comment about not doing this to herself anymore. this sounds a little like what i was trying to describe a couple of weeks back, when i talked about being sad about changing. when i read your post, i suddenly realized what it's really about. when i'm seriously bingeing, to the point where it hurts, it's not about the food. we all know that although we say it in different ways (coastalsue puts it very elegantly.) we could actually care less about the food, and i know this because when i binge, i gravitate towards the crappiest thing i can find to put in my mouth. nope, ain't the food, and it ain't the eating, because we also all know that we're pretty much out of our bodies when we're doing it - "zoned out" or however you describe it. so. i thought, crappy food, don't really enjoy it, it's uncomfortable or even painful afterwards, what could i possibly be getting out of doing this that i seem to keep doing it? duh me, it's exactly that zoned-outness. like taking a nap or more accurately, a break from my life. it's literally like a 20 minute (or however long) vacation from whatever i'm in the middle of. it's like going to sleep. it just doesn't last.

funny enough i was listening to marianne williamson who was quoting a course in miracles and said something like, "you will not get the rest you seek from sleeping. you'll get the rest you seek from waking up." still trying to get my head around that one. i suspect that part of my trying to "sleep" includes hyperextending myself (or creating situations where I feel like others are hyperextending me) and i'm wondering how to get there from here. hm.

thanks bill for sharing that fairly personal story. i responded to the word "smug." i'm pretty sure that's what angered me about what this particular poster wrote. it's an important thing for me to hear, though, since i'm 100% guilty too. just a reminder to self that unless i understand exactly what someone else has gone through (and do we EVER?) i'm in no position to make a judgement about them. this includes judging myself. btw, kudos on the flossing! i brush twice a day but must admit i could use a little more flossing. must remember to credit myself when i do it. :)

big credit to barb - i applaud you for having enough self-awareness to come up with a plan to avoid setting yourself up for a sweets setback at some point in the future! i had several weeks of being perfectly on plan, no deviations, no nothing - and so when i inevitably ate something that wasn't clean, it was a Big Deal and really didn't have to be. kudos to you!!!!

today i'm getting back to basics. maintaining is starting to feel a little like a slow slide back to the wild west - i hadn't been at Beck long enough for it to ingrain enough to coast. (are we ever? :) ) so today i scheduled an hour on my calendar to scour recipes and put together a shopping and cooking list for tomorrow. credit moi for realigning before my pants start getting tight again!

jean congrats to you for catching your slow slide early.

barbpos I know you will have a great time this weekend and can tell you are in control!

amy: going off SBD is allowed. it's just that the reason i was so upset yesterday was that the person who upset me said i never eat clean and i do 'treat a lot' i had sushi on wednesday and that's off plan.... i can easily eat close to plan at the bull roast.. and with my BECK focus being NOT on the food I might be just fine....

it's after 1 here. Lunch is normally at 11:30 but i ate my oatmeal at 10:30 and i'm trying to NOT eat till i'm hungry....

i'm also trying to figure out what level my hunger is. I mean i know 1 is not hungry and 10 is starving... am i at a 3 or a 4 or maybe a 6 and do you eat at a 6 or wait for an 8?

oy.... am i making this harder than it has to be?

nessa: i just checked the book and she doesn't say "eat at this number" but in the example she gives the dieter starts her meal at an 8 score. she does also say that if it has been less than 3 hours since your last meal it is probably a desire to eat and not a need. hope this helps!
good luck,
amy

Hi there everyone,
Things are okay here. The doggie has been still going through drama-he had a small surgery yesterday to tack his third eyelid up to protect and nourish a scratched cornea that hasn't healed...AND his blood is still not right so we are trying to diagnose and figure out how to help him if possible (low platelets). Trying to put my energy into that and dd and my plan. I read everything though and get so much energy from you all. I feel badly not doing the personal response each time-I do when I feel like I can.

Things that ARe working right now: focusing on one or two advantages per day, cooking my own food gets me excited to eat at home and to stay on plan. Trying to give credit....focusing on my behaviors and not as much on that blasted scale number, enjoying clothing hanging on me instead of binding me.

Til tomorrow, Heidi

Diet Coaches – I made it through my last day of work madness by going in early and working like a maniac; delivered all the stuff I had to deliver by the deadline. CREDIT moi. I have to fight the Sabotaging Thought that I don't deserve credit since most of the madness was caused by my procrastination. But a Helpful Response is: I procrastinate; I suffer; I get it done; CREDIT moi. Today will have an opportunity to walk and maybe gym. And not to forget, I didn't go to the vending machines even when the crunch seemed more than I would be able to complete (with serious embarrassment since the extent of my procrastination would become quite public.) CREDIT moi.

Heidi (hbuchwald) - Congrats for having clothes that hang instead of bind. What a wonderful feeling! Ouch for dear Henry! Sending him healing wishes. Kudos for so specifically working Beck strategies. I love hearing excited about cooking.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Kudos for identifying your "slow slide back to the wild west," and planning a response. Thanks for the thought that mindless eating of mediocre food is "zoned-outness. like taking a nap or more accurately, a break from my life." That's the thought that I've been missing as I kept wondering why my overeating was always mediocre food - quality food would wake me up! And I was taking a "break from life!" Hope you keep beating against this; this seems like a really important thought for me to get it about my stack after stack of oatmeal cookies consumed right after a satisfying dinner.

Barbara (barbpos) – Thanks for the update about your heart - sending supporting thoughts that it continues ticking calmly. Kudos for progressing through to Program-day 40. Re: your plan for sweets. I agree your thought that "total sweets taboo" might not be a stable lifelong solution. Your "3 slow savored bites of sweets at the wedding" sounds like a sound plan. What has been working for me is to take one bite from DW's dessert. The built in limit is that she gets a serious territorial frown if she sees my fork heading for more, followed by an annoyed, "Get your own d*mned dessert!"

onebyone – Hope you completed all your submissions and remained sane so you can have a relaxing weekend.

amy (gahundy) – Your "live" coach sounds like a jewel. Good luck with your Program-day 8.

Nessa (ladybugnessa) - Kudos for banging ahead with mindful eating. And thanks for the reminder: Bill check page 117 of Beck... where is your hunger.. is it in your mouth or your throat. It's interesting that she asks that since I've always used the term MOUTH HUNGER to indicate that I want to eat when I'm not physically hungry...So, to get it into my head, the full definition from the previous page:Monitor Your Hunger

How do you know when you’re really hungry? Think about three recent occasions when the following occurred:

• You hadn’t eaten for many hours and really felt ravenous. That empty sensation in your stomach, often accompanied by stomach rumblings, was hunger.
• You ate a big meal and yet you still wanted to continue to eat more. That was a desire.
• You had a very strong urge to eat, which was accompanied by a feeling of tension and an unpleasant yearning sensation in your mouth, throat, or body. That was a craving. Beck, pg 116.
Your phrase, "mouth hunger", works better for me than throat hunger, or body hunger.


Readers – "…Medication can be effective in the short run but is accompanied by undesirable side effects. … " From the Forward by Aaron T. Beck, M.D., Beck, pg 10.

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:carrot: Hello Brilliant Coaches! :carrot:

I just had my weighin and I am down 6lbs. Whoa nelly! I lost the bloat from the trip and other things and am down a pound more beyond that. You know, I've reached this scale number before, but never has it felt like this. Somehow, this feels real. I think the difference is I feel like I have been working, really applying myself to get the weight off. It doesn't feel like I was "lucky" or I "out-smarted" the scale somehow (as if that's possible! sheesh!).
I feel like everyday I was trying, whether I succeeded or not and that means that I have a way of living day to day with food. Gee. Before Beck, I felt at the mercy of food. Sometimes it would leave me alone, maybe even for weeks, but then a big binge storm would swell up and I had nothing to face it down with except to go with it and then make repairs once it passed, but I'd be farther from my goal. over and over this was happening and now, I can't say it won't ever happen, but I just feel better. I may actually be learning how to maintain. Now I have to maintain this weight loss from this week and move forward... new thoughts... makes me appreciate my weightloss NOW and the daily work, the daily planning, the use of Beck tools daily, this is all happening now not just at some mythical "goal weight" in the future. Whoa again.

Okay, sober thought here. I have several eating triggers all in a row here.
1) it is SATURDAY... always my toughest day.
2) I am almost through a very stressful string of days. Stress will be over, also a trigger time.
3) just showed a big weightloss. may want to "test" it, see if it's "real" by overeating today... SELF SABOTAGE!!YIKES!
4) being tired being happy being emotional triggers plain and simple
5) my new week just started so I have plenty of points to use... more than enough for a binge if I wanted .. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY ARE FOR


How to respond: it is easier to stay on plan than get on plan
Thank goodness I am on the official Believe It day. So I need to do my homework. Be aware of these things and use distraction and NO CHOICE and Oh well... to postpone. I can always pop a DVD in and work off some feelings too... and come back and post here if I get overwhelmed.

Still another busy day ahead but it's almost over and I managed to get my scholarship submission in and my print submission in, now I have the boutique submission due and some printmaking to catch up on that I am looking forward to. I alos need to fire the kilns today. The ceramic students face the same crunch as I so I have to get their work out and done too.

Have a great Saturday Beckies! I'll be back for personals this evening...

good saturday morning beckies!
hope everyone had a great friday!
i don't normally come here on the weekends and that hasn't really worked for me, so i am trying something different and here i am!
today i am taking the kids to grandpa while grandma and i hit the stores, ok so it will be sam's club and big lots. but without the kids so that makes it more of a FUN outing! nolan is only 4 and all boy so shopping is not his thing, he can be a handful! my dad is off today to he said i could bring the kids to him and mom and i could go shopping alone!
my plan for today is to just remember that over eating and eating junk makes me retain water which shows on the scale as a weight gain. and it takes me about a week to get my body back to normal. to much work for something that i can prevent. i had a sweet tea yesterday so I AM NOT HAVING ONE TODAY. once a week is a treat, all weekend long is a binge. i can get ice water w/ lemon at any restaurant, it's is enough.
hope everyone has a great weekend. i will be back later to report in!
amy

good morning friends and coaches...


bill glad i could help

food has been spot on for two days... credit moi... i ate too much yesterday but it was veggies and i was aware of it. I am more and more becoming aware of overeating past FULL... right now i am working on that.

interestingly last night after dinner i could NOT have been hungry... i just ate way too much good stuff in good amounts... but there i was an HOUR after this dinner with my head in the fridge... and I thought to myself "YOU CAN"T BE HUNGRY so cut it out" and I did.

i had a fudge pop as planned before bed...

today is a crazy food day for us with the bull roast... i'll be as on plan as possible.

emotionally i'm a bit stressed as I'm having some conflict with someone that i know from another board who followed me to a board I created (about south beach) who really is being difficult in my opinion.... once she is gone from my life I think that I'll feel better.

Hello friends,

I got a good night’s rest and have some fun things planned today including picking a friend up from the airport who is coming home with her newly adopted daughter from Ethiopia! We will go back to their house for pizza (unless the new dd is too overwhelmed-I just cannot imagine how she must be feeling with a ll of the new changes even though they are good changes overall). Anyway, I have planned in 2 pieces of thin crust pizza and will bring my own beverage to sip and will drink water as well.

I made some matzo ball soup and will have that for lunch and a quinoa lettuce wrap for a snack-I mention because I am excited to have them! As another way to celebrate my healthy cooking/healthy habits lifestyle, I am in the process of reorganizing my kitchen for maximum efficiency. That is fun for me so is a reward of sorts. I also plan to paint the kitchen during my spring break!

Currently focusing on the following advantage:” I no longer need to worry about heart disease or other health problems due to being overweight”. I really do worry when I am not exercising regularly. I plan to exercise today and tomorrow to get into that groove again. No Choice.

BillBlueEyes: You got all that work stuff done-kudos to you whether it took procrastination to get there or not!

Kuljeanie: aha moment: taking a break from my life with mediocre food…there is something to be said for “just sitting down” for a minute or two…thank you.

Onebyone: I am so glad to hear how great you feel due to your hard work at losing weight. Way to anticipate all those trigger events/feelings. How timely that you are on the Believe it day! Creating art sounds so fulfilling-do you enjoy the process of creating? I crave that and for now, cooking is doing it…. Decorating and organizing is up there too…

Gahundy: welcome to the weekend version of our group… enjoy that shopping alone-I can very much appreciate that.

Nessa: you are sounding very in tune with your hunger.

Have a great day everyone!

HI guys,

Real trouble posting any thing-this is the 5th try over 2 days
Best wishes to all
sue

Diet Coaches – Got in a nice long walk to the supermarket yesterday. CREDIT moi. California Navel Oranges are sooo good right now. Spent the morning shopping for an elliptical for DW to use for her knee. Thinking that we need to buy one so that she can readily get in her therapy as required. There are some really nice options available. I particularly like one that generates its own electricity to run the console, but, alas, that's in a rather pricey professional model.

Will have the opportunity to practice eating in the face of abundance this evening as DS and GF are making dinner for us; it will be fresh and healthy to be sure as well as super tasty, but in large quantity. I need a new Helpful Response like, ABUNDANCE is not a problem that requires my solution.

Sue (CoastalSue) - Waving to the West Coast even though you can't read this without your computer. May you get your web connection back soon.

Heidi (hbuchwald) - Sending "Welcome Home adopted daughter" to your friend - that's some whopping big changes in two lives. Kudos for your meal planning. You make me drool with your quinoa - I, too, love that stuff. Neat that you're into cooking for your new healthy lifestyle.

onebyone – Congrats on the reduced scale readings. Kudos that you "have a way of living day to day with food." That is one major achievement! May it remain with you forever. Good luck finishing up all your projects. Neat thought that you are a maintainer now (and that we all are after our first pound to maintain).

amy (gahundy) – Welcome to the weekend! Hope you had a productive shopping trip yesterday, or, if not productive, at least a refreshing break from a 4 year old who is "all boy," LOL.

Nessa (ladybugnessa) - Big Kudos for recognizing that you weren't hungry after dinner - despite having "your head in the fridge." And Kudos for not eating.


Readers – "…It’s also short-lived: People tend to gain weight once they stop taking it. … " From the Forward by Aaron T. Beck, M.D., Beck, pg 10.

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Sue sorry you can't get on.. and you can't read this either.

Heidi how did you make the quiona wrap? that sounds good. have a nice family/friend time

Bill... thank you for being here all the time, I hope you find the elliptical your DW can use. Next weekend I am picking up a recumbent bike for my DH that someone is giving away. it's a trip to Trenton to get it but it's free other than gas and tolls....

me today: back on my plan... and thinking about why oh why I deliberately sabotaged myself last night. especially since i was so good the rest of the day....

Hello coaches!

Yesterday was Believe It day for me and I didn't do my homework or read it until this morning. Guess I don't want to believe it. Hmmmm. I stepped on the scale and it was at 250.2 this morning. It really said that. I can hardly believe it. Because after I pass that 250 I am in the 240's and then less and less. Sometimes, like now, this feels scary to me. I always think I am alone in this feeling. It's like I am waiting for some "big reveal" to happen at weight X and some emotion will well up in me and I'll be swallowed up by some memory/reason as to why I've been gaining and losing the last 36 years.
36 years. Since I was 8.
Wow.
As I am at the midpoint of life, (maybe), I hope the next half is not filled with the agony of gaining and losing weight in the same way. I hope I can do this and move on already! As is probably the case, the fear of the thing is never as bad as the thing itself you know? And anyway, we can't prepare for these things in advance, they just happen and if it does happen I have to believe that I can deal with it. I can. I will. If I want a long and happy life I have to do this. I have to get fit, eat healthy. Can't count on a young lithe body forever. It needs me now to do what's right.

I have a challenge tomorrow. Our photography class is heading to Montreal for the day. I am taking the train with a friend/classmate. My food is open, for lunch for sure, dinner maybe, and I just want to make sure the floodgates aren't open if you get my drift! I will take my cards with me. I could even take my book. Hmm.Maybe not. if I feel weak I will take my bigger bag and pack it. So much thought and planning! I DO NOT WANT TO SABOTAGE MYSELF.

gahundy: good job on limiting your sweet tea. It's these small actions that build confidence and keep us on track. kudos.

ladybugnessa: Good for you you are right back on plan. kudos. BTW what is a bull roast? Do you roast a whole bull like a pig roast with the whole pig? I'm trying to picture the grill for that, or the firepit... it'd be BIG...

hbuchwald: I hope the homecoming went well for everyone. Very exciting! I love cooking too and usually plan for it over the weekend. I'm off my schedule this weekend though... and yes, I do love creating. I just like to make things. All kinds of things. If I am not making things, I feel sick. It's really important to me. BTW how's your doggy doing??? Please pat him for me!

coastalsue: thinking of you and hoping you are happily doing this --> :swim: I look forward to your return...

BillBlueEyes: Abundance: Just cause there's a lot of food in front of me doesn't mean there needs to be a lot of food in me. How's that? That actually works for me. Thanks. You know what I've discovered lately? Ever since I've been eating slowly and limiting my food so I am not ever overfull, I want to eat the best quality food I can get my hands on that I can afford. If I'm only having a bit I want it to be good and tasty. So I totally understand loving a juicy in season California navel orange. Before it'd be "Oh I'm having an orange. Bor-ing. What else is there?" Now it's like "OMG have you tasted this orange? It's fantastic." That change can only be good.

ONE by ONE... a bull roast is just usually good food including pit beef, pit ham and pit turkey (not the whole animal just the parts that grill well) and oysters both raw and fried. and other bad for you sides such as macaroni salad, potato salad and cole slaw....and lots of beer as well as music and gambling... it's done often as a fund raiser....

Nessa:ONE by ONE... a bull roast is just usually good food including pit beef, pit ham and pit turkey (not the whole animal just the parts that grill well) and oysters both raw and fried. and other bad for you sides such as macaroni salad, potato salad and cole slaw....and lots of beer as well as music and gambling... it's done often as a fund raiser....

Wow. This sounds like a major foodfest! Wow. How did you get through it? Did you do okay? From your note it looks like you were all right during the event but it was afterwards at home when the event was over (I'm like that!) that the food snuck up on you... Did it? A bull roast seems like a major challenge to me... kudos are definitely due if you did okay at the roast no matter what happened later... credit needs to be given where credit is due.

Thanks for your reply.

Nessa:

Wow. This sounds like a major foodfest! Wow. How did you get through it? Did you do okay? From your note it looks like you were all right during the event but it was afterwards at home when the event was over (I'm like that!) that the food snuck up on you... Did it? A bull roast seems like a major challenge to me... kudos are definitely due if you did okay at the roast no matter what happened later... credit needs to be given where credit is due.

Thanks for your reply.


actually no surprisingly coming home used to be the issue for me.... now it's when i'm out. i try not to keep junk in the house although right now DH is very limited with what he can eat (it has to be soft foods) and chocolate is a weakness of his... and chocolate on sale (read EASTER candy) is worst of all....

i ate 2 pieces of cake at the bull roast and two fried oysters and lots of ham and beef... and some cole slaw... while the ham and beef are fine on my plan the other stuff is not...

so i decided to wait till I was HUNGRY today to eat.. which is also NOT on my plan but I think that it's the lesser of the two evils... so here it is 1 pm and i've done my errands and Finally starting to feel some hunger pangs...

Hi guys.
mysteries of computors-I can read the postings-just can't post anything over about 2-3 lines-then the screen goes blank and I lose it all-Trying this one and hoping for the best.
Hi to all-reading some great stuff

sue

Sue that sounds like a virus....

Hi again-
trying a longer one-it is very windy for days and maybe that is affecting our hook up. Since we are so rural the oldest more tempermental equipment is used up here by all companies.

onebyone-cute graphics of swimming. Love it but it is burrr-as so windy and highs in the 49-53. Congradulation on you loss. I so understand such conflicting emotions about new attitude to food.

I have a love/hate relationship with food-too many times of mindless eating of crappy food and Oh the unhealthy body. How can my mind say eat while my knees are screaming out in pain due the heavy body mass? I am embrassed by my learned helplessness with a plate of food. Yet I can take on very hard problems in life (except that bowl of ice cream). Even thoough I have to redo many of the exercises in Beck, I am sure of a continuous(but slow) reversal of my poor eating habits. While I have complete faith that I will be thin and I must have patience with myself as I step by step undo my attitude of helpless with food because I gave it the power to solve my emotions. I also am just learning skills to tolerate my emotional responses with out food.

I liken my new eating pattern as walking a tight rope. If I go very slowly, carefully and with caution I can get to end the day on plan-but too much chaos off I fall and then overeat.

A big Hi to everyone and hope to continue posting

sue

*sigh* coaches!

While I didn't, technically, fall off the wagon in terms of eating off my WW plan, I did not follow Beck rules. I feel into an emotional trap. And I knew it was probably going to happen. We went to visit and have lunch at a friend's house. She is readying her house for ssale due to a terrrible break up with a man who physically assaulted her and threatened to kill them both. She fought him off. It's an escalation in their relationship. She is scared. She is getting help. She is trying to keep it together for her son who is 4 in July and does not speak much, only afew words and makes the babbling talking-like sounds... he seems to be okay otherwise (ie. doesn't seem autistic to me but I have no kids so what do I know? Just what I've read...). Anyway fear, feelking fear, this is a big trigger for me. I soak up fear and sadness like a sponge and it joins up iwht my own emotional and then put tired (yes) and stressed (yes) on top and it's too much for me. It came out when i hd seconds at her house. (not beck behaviour) and then at the bus stop we stopped into the store and i bought abag of weioght watchers malitol peppermint patties, 7 to a bag, and ate them all as my "dinner", or snack or whatever. I just ate them. As far as binges go, it's not much. AS farf as behaviour goes, it's not good. I knew all the way that I was eating to calm myself. I knew I was eating to quash the sadness and the fear that was coming up and the anger. Oh yeah, let's not forget that. And just the heaviness of it all. While I was all lightness and air and serious lets-get-this-done at her place, I did not want to let on what a road she has in front of her. i was in her position at one point. Not as extreme but definitely in her headspace. She has the added weight of a child, which I didn't/don't so that's something else too. I know it is not my problem. I know she has help for this and is getting help and all that. I feel it though. It made me cry once we were home. My other friends are also going through big things; another one separating/divorcing at the age she thought she'd be retiring and now is trying to get herself geared up to support herself (yikes!) and another friend deeply in debt and teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, but unwilling/unable to change anything to get out from under the burden of debt. And here am I. In school. Able to live by my artwork when I choose to. Good guy beside me, supporting me in every way you can imagine. Great cat. Rental townhouse wiht more rooms than I really need... even a little yard I can grow things in. Debts not too bad, but have been improving. Job at the school that I go to even. Looking ahead to art shows and exhibiting and furthering my dreams. Today I don't know why I have so much. A few years ago my aunt, who I grew up with, said to me in all earnestness "Gee. You've really done a lot with your crafts. You've made it into a real business, travelled all over with them. I'm really proud of you. We thought you'd be nothing." "I know", was my reply. Didn't even phase me what she said.
It was a day later I got mad at the crappy thing she'd said to me in a very nice way. I was grateful though, as she confirmed for me that the feelings I had growing up were accurate. But I digress. Sorry to be so bleak right now. I don't want to spend the rest of the night eating. Oh well... that's done.

now if only my %$#@* photography teacher would call to let us known if we are going to Montreal tomorrow or not! He said if it rained we weren't going and I need to know tonight as we aren't meeting at the school with the others... we are going by train... just got the call and we're going. Okay. Boy sure don't feel like going. But that's right now. Anyway, thanks for reading. Just had to leave these feelings somewhere. Lord help me to stay away from the Dunn's deli in Montreal where they have a superjumbo Montreal smoked meat sandwich 5" (i'm not kidding) thick. YIKES!

Hi there fellow Beckies,

Fun time greeting my friend and her newly adopted daughter. Several other people came to her house after the airport and I followed my plan and it went very well. While it is a very happy time, there will be LOTS of adjustments to be made in their lives.

Today was really fun-went up the mountain for dd’s ski lesson. I hung out with the mom of the little girl that we went with-we chatted in the lodge, took pics of the kids and had fun people watching. I did a lot of walking around up there too-it is a trek to get the girls to the ski school from our car… I brought food for lunch and we ate in the car on the way home. Then dd and I relaxed and watched a movie, had dinner and now dd is in bed and I am not far behind her. Henry is with me-we already did his eye meds (no fun to give or get) and now he is relaxing too. I am trying to give extra pets an dhugs. He is what I call a “ppt” right now-“poor pathetic thing”… awww. His blood is still not right-his platelets are being destroyed somehow…it is on my mind a lot and causes me stress to know that he is uncomfortable (eye related discomfort as well as cone head discomfort)….the blood thing doesn’t SEEM to be affecting his daily life much in a negative way and I am waiting for the eye to heal before we choose a course of action for the blood issue. . I mention since it really does cause me stress (some of you know that he has been having health issues for all of 2008 so far….) AND I am tired. We know what stressed and tired can put me at risk for… but NO-I am planning my food and doing all kinds of other good things for myself. I do need to get on this exercise bandwagon again though! Enough is enough… reading my book tonight.

BillBlueEyes: Abundance response is great….also love the concept of self generating electrical exercise equipment…maybe they should hook televisions up to the exercise equipment as a power source!

Nessa: nice to get a free piece of exercise equipment! Sorry to hear about the self sabotage…hopefully you can put it behind you. Thanks for sharing what the bull roast was exactly-sounds fun and also challenging.

Onebyone: I can understand the fear of hitting certain numbers on the scale. I do feel like I need to “live” with my weight when I hit certain milestones on some level so I can get used to how I feel and how people treat me, etc.. Usually those milestones are when clothes feel super loose or I can physically do something more easily that was more difficult before.

I am so sorry about your friend and her son and how your visit with her affected you. You are on a path and took a “wrong turn” or a “short side trip” and quickly realized that you wanted the main path and got back on. That will happen periodically for us all…or the analogy could be that we are on a wide path where we want to be in the middle of the path MOST of the time…we will stray a bit but are on a journey and learning from the process itself. Just think of what that scenario could have looked like had you not been a beckie! Good coping with it and the situation….

Sue: So sorry that you are having computer issues-that BITES (bytes?)! Good to know that you are there though and can at least read what we are saying. Waving to you…..

Diet Coaches – Dinner prepared by DS and GF last night exceeded all expectations in quality, taste, and abundance. I learned that the flavor of a low calorie chicken is seriously enhanced with about a pound of butter and a healthy injection of lemon that has previously been simmered for 90 minutes in olive oil! I got to read the cook book as the chefs did their magic. The good news is that I only took half of the serving prepared for me (half will be several dinners this week). CREDIT moi. But even half a serving probably pushed me to the upper limit of my eating plan, so DW and I will probably eat a bit light for our dinners this week.

I got in two long walks which breaks me out of a recent reduction in my walking for various busy reasons. CREDIT moi. I still carry the negative thinking that a brief reduction in walking is just the start of falling off the cliff. Have not arrived at thinking like a thin person yet. Oh Well.


Sue (CoastalSue) - Kudos for giving yourself credit that you "can take on very hard problems in life." That's such a great Helpful Response to the Sabotaging Thought of "embarrassment." Your consistent efforts to stay the course are a real encouragement to me when I feel discouraged that my relationship with food hasn't magically transformed since I've completed my weight loss.

Heidi (hbuchwald) - Kudos for your careful prep for your DD's ski lesson trip. And Kudos for staying on plan in a lodge with its tempting aromas from the food sales area. Sending healing thoughts to Henry and hugs to you and DD for your continued support of his healing.

onebyone – Kudos for carefully planning for your Montreal trip. This planning stuff is the deal breaker that allows me to remain responsible for staying the course. Montreal is one of the really great cities; hope you remember to do your photography amid the joy of just being there, LOL.

Thanks for, "Abundance: Just cause there's a lot of food in front of me doesn't mean there needs to be a lot of food in me." Snagged it into my Response Cards for regular reading. That can help me with buffets as well as large volume meals (like last night).

Sending you supporting Believe It thoughts for your journey through 250; big emotional deals these big emotional milestones are. You are sooooo ahead of the game by acknowledging your feelings about it - that might just be what it takes to send the bogeyman thoughts back into their closet.

Ouch for your emotional turmoil of supporting your friends emotional turmoil. And double ouch for the resurrected memory of your aunt's unsurpportive remark. It's amazing how one negative thought can go find all the negative thoughts of our past to try to bring us down. Kudos for confronting them by giving yourself credit for the good parts of your current life.

amy (gahundy) – Hope your weekend went well and that your credit card survived your shopping trip, LOL.

Nessa (ladybugnessa) - Thank you for the kind words. And thanks for explaining the "bull roast" - wasn't familiar with the phrase - sounds like one great feast. Kudos for getting right back on track with the plan to wait until "HUNGRY today to eat." LOL at "and chocolate on sale (read EASTER candy) is worst of all." Been there, done that. The draw of day-after sale of seasonal candy is one of my fears for falling off track big time. Good luck keeping your head clear if you have to get it for your DH and ignore it for yourself. Sending healing wishes for your DH's oral surgery; hope recovery is going well.

Readers – "…Bariatric surgery for severe obesity, as with any operation, carries risk and requires that patients eat drastically reduced portions of food (usually tablespoons at a time). … " From the Forward by Aaron T. Beck, M.D., Beck, pg 10.

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Morning Coaches

I'm outta here in about 20 minutes. Just wanted to check in and wish everyone a good start to their week. I had a restful sleep and feel good this morning. A bit tired but nothing that a train ride won't fix. Last night the last thing I wanted to do was go to Montreal today. Today? S'ok!

Our photography assignment for Montreal: 1) photograph 5 strangers on the street 2) photograph architecture 3) photograph graffiti 4) photograph sex
There's another one that I can't remember! Anyway that's it. Gotta go.

Enjoy your day.

Good Morning Friends.

Today I will continue to work on Day 13. Cravings. Last night I wanted an apple and some peanut butter.. both are on my current plan but my current plan is not working 100% for me so i'm making interesting changes in just eating plan food when I'm actually HUNGRY... i'm so working on HUNGRY.. so while i kept thinking about it I did not eat it. Much like Saturday when around 2 pm (after an 8 am breakfast of eggs and veggies) I noticed i was hungry. EMPTY hungry. REALLY WANT TO EAT HUNGRY... and i noticed every other thought was about eating. while not uncomfortable it was distracting.. and annoying. Was it an emergency that i did not eat? NO. Was it a disaster that I did not eat? NO. DID it kill me? NO.

my problem is not when I can't eat. I'll live. MY problem is when I start to eat I DO NOT STOP.... different issue totally I think....

I have read my REASONS to LOSE WEIGHT twice today and mentally added all the others that apply TODAY.... some rather vengeful... it will really piss off so and so etc.. LOL

onebyone enjoy montreal. have a great day.


BillBlueEyes that chicken sounds.... interesting.... kudos to you for knowing your limits.

hbuchwald glad to hear your plan worked out. Sorry to hear about Henry. bagel (who's middle name is henry btw) is a very cranky dog as we have him on a diet.... ugh..

coastalsue I hear you about the tightrope walk. that's me too. I have the same food issues... i love to eat.. why oh why do i have to struggle so with it. hugs to you....

Hi Everyone

Ive had The Beck Diet Solution book for about a year now. This past easter was the time to pick it up and get with the program. I am creeping dangerously close to my all time highest weight, and that just isnt acceptable to me.

So....Im on day 9, and Im going to go read the intro to this thread again. I read it last week when I started the book, but I need a refresher.

:wave:

Hi Everyone

Ive had The Beck Diet Solution book for about a year now. This past easter was the time to pick it up and get with the program. I am creeping dangerously close to my all time highest weight, and that just isnt acceptable to me.

So....Im on day 9, and Im going to go read the intro to this thread again. I read it last week when I started the book, but I need a refresher.

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Hi Robin Welcome....

Well coaches I am back again. The photography trip was cancelled due to bad weather for the majority of the class that were going by car. (Me and my friend opted for the decadence of the train!) So instead we are going next Monday, rain, snow, sleet or hail we are going. Glad that's decided now for sure. Half the stress is the not knowing. Are we? Aren't we? Egad. So when I got to the station I was starving and grabbed a slice of pound cake at the snack bar. I really wanted eggs. Okay. breakfast: pound cake. On my way home, I stopped at the transit station to get my April buspass and picked up a coffee/cookie combo. Coffee. Okay. Cookie? Get this! 490 calories for the cookie with 23 grams of fat. :eek: WOWIE. That's some dense cookie. On the WW plan I get 30 points to spend a day. Spent 8 for that cakey thing this morning. The cookie is 10! You know, I really want it. It's not wise. But I really want it... aka desire. I think I'll put it away for today. I feel like it's a trigger and a reaction to my stressful past few days. THANK GOD I got out of class this afternon and I am home "printing my photographs" HA! I am playing hookey.... and I need it. Days of Our Lives here I come.

Thank you everyone so much for being here and creating such a supportive place to leave some of the stress in my life. Thanks.

And RobinW :welcome3: If you follow Beck's suggestions with an open heart and mind, it will change the way you think and deal with food. Great stuff that!

onebyone learning that we desire something and can still say no is very powerful!

HI guys,

Welcome Robin-This is a great spot to get support while learning to "think life a thin person" via Beck.

OnebyOne-So understand your response to your friend's trauma-I want to listen, support others But not internalizing the stress of others. Too often I still do. So glad positng help you leave your stress here.

Ladybugnessa-I found the same thing doing the The hunger exercise-hunger is no biggie in my life even though I used to say all the time that I was hunger for...all the time. Now I am looking at emotional eating as being my biggest problem. So understand once some eating gets started how hard it is to stop.

BillBlueEyes-loved your discription of your DS &GF dinner. Read to my DH and enjoyed it too. He has been so supportive of all of the cooking and dietary changes-hugh reduction of fat and processed foods-but honestly a pound of butter makes any thing taste yummy-can't go back to that but can longingly laugh about it.
Thanks for posting the need of continous movement-My childhood family motto had to be "Since you are up-please get me..."(while the rest of us remained seated.) Been working on doing more steps about the house. Thanks for your support-would love to lose quicker but I have to give myself credit for learning to change even if it so slow-but over 50 yrs of unhealthy habits take time to permanently modify.

Heidi-you are a busy amazing person. So sorry to hear about Henry's health problems. Much Much credit to preplanning and remaining on plan inspite if such a busy and stressed time.

Got an used old strudy recumbent exercise bike and starting off doing 5 minutes session-want to make sure I do not get bursitis again. Last week I did an 8 block walk (need to use my walker so looked dorky) but I did it and was not winded or in much pain. hugh improvement in mobility. Yeah hrs in the pool of increased muscle tone.

Wieght loss is still so slow-Dr yelled at me at eating too little at 1600 due to being so big-after she calmed down I said I can not even lose anything if I eat more. So then she agreed that was likely. I think it is my poor slow mobility that is really slowing my weight loss down. Still there is the story of the tortoise who in the end win the race.

sue

Day 17 End overeating

overeating
1. eating more of any food than you had planned.
2. feeling full during a meal and continue to finish it anyway.

the exercise
Add more food than the you plan to eat.
Eat your planned amount and then either throw the extra out or save it for another meal

Why
To resist trigger situations to over eat.-parties, large restaurant portions.
Fight the interalized rule from our parents-Clean your plate especially when there is too much food on our plate!!

Techniques to help
1. Label the desire to eat more is just a craving not hunger
2. stand firm-not giving in
3. Use your no choice card
4. think of the consequences of giving in and getting that old sense of feeling out of control.
5. Remind yourself your goal is the learn to withstand overeating patterns.

She reminds that it takes 20 minutes to feel full. Set the timer for 20 minutes after a meal and it is then you will feel full. Feeling satiety takes time-stop and wait and you will feel full.

I have done this at home and find I can do it there. But it is at restuarants that I "forget" along with sabatoging thought of "I need to get my money" worth-plus "I never make this at home and what harm can it do to finish as I eat soo few meals away from home". I will not gain because this is to rare( that is not true) . At a party I too often focus on the talking and socializing-truly eat mindlessly what is on my plate or even stuff nearby which I put on my plate or nibble on while talking.

Plan to do this again at my evening meal-and repeat this task more often to help with implusive eating eating. Still like my "Get Real" card beter than no choice-I got to get real and stop overeating/lusting over food to lose the lbs.

Good luck to all
sue

This discussion continues on The Beck Diet Solution – April 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach ( http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138609)

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