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mxgirl737
02-17-2008, 07:10 PM
This week has been sort of tough for me. I work a LOT ---at the Mayo Clinic, and at Lane Bryant. Anyway, today I have to work both jobs, and I had a banana when I first got up in the morning, but by 11:00pm I was so hungry!!! I had packed stuff for dinner at Mayo...and a protein bar for in between jobs. I had to stop at Target and get some cat food. I looked around for something healthy to eat---for some reason fruit and vegs were not sounding appealing. I grabbed some fresh veg. sushi at first...but then made a bad choice and got a 6" personal pan pizza from pizza hut. :( :( :(

I haven't had pizza in so long, and I know it was bad for me---I looked up the cals as soon as I got to Mayo. Now I feel sort of blah...and i'm hungry again!

It doesn't help that everyone brings tons of goodies and leaves them laying around all over either... I'm chewing gum like a crazy person...but I feel like I'm going to give in and then when I weigh in on Tuesday (I joined Mayo's really awesome health center weightloss program)...I'm going to go up :( Any suggestions? What do you do when your co-workers make all sorts of stuff that you LOVE? ...it's like I have no will power. haha

So far I've lost about 25lbs in a little over a month....I don't want to screw it up now...


sharonrr1
02-17-2008, 07:15 PM
:hug:
Am I understanding this right? You ate a banana in the morning and then didn't eat until 11 pm?
You have to try and eat something every few hours to keep your metabolism humming.
No wonder you made a bad choice. When your starved you can't think straight. I don't care how busy you are. You have to take care of yourself and that means planning ahead.
Now plan ahead from now on.

JayEll
02-17-2008, 07:24 PM
I agree with sharonrr1--what were you thinking? :dizzy: Girl, you can't do yourself like that. You have to plan your meals and snacks and make sure you have your foods with you or there are options available.

Also, I'm thinking that you have been eating too little for awhile now--because 25 pounds in a month at your weight is very fast. In fact, it's too fast. You could be losing lean body mass (such as muscle) as well as fat, and that will only slow down your metabolism more! :eek:

Maybe you would want to rethink what you're doing. If you go to the Calorie Counters forum you'll find some Sticky threads at the top of the first page that have a lot of information about one way to track your foods.

Good luck! Plan, plan, plan! Don't confuse starving with healthy weight loss! :yikes

Jay


Tonia
02-17-2008, 07:24 PM
Congradulations on your weight loss so far! 25 pounds is no easy thing.

Sharon is right - you really, really have to plan ahead to avoid those times. When your body is starving your head is not thinking about veggies. With a 25 pound weight loss I am sure you know this...

Now, chalk it up to a lesson learned, get over it and move on! Best of luck to you!

PhotoChick
02-17-2008, 07:30 PM
What everyone else has said.

A banana for breakfast is simply not enough. If you're working a job where you know you might not get a proper lunch break, then you need to eat protein and carbs in the morning to keep you fueled.

Also, I agree that 25lbs in a month is too much, too fast. It's not a completely impossible amount, but it's not sustainable and it's not healthy for a long term plan.

You need to plan your meals and snacks and pack what you need into a cooler in your car if necessary. String cheese, yogurts, apples, things like that - that you can grab and eat on the move.

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mxgirl737
02-17-2008, 07:35 PM
sorry...my bad. it was 11am ...not pm

PhotoChick
02-17-2008, 07:37 PM
I figured it was .. but even so, a banana is not enough.

Say you get up at 8 a.m. and eat that banana. By 11 a.m. that's FIVE HOURS you've worked on one banana. Your body needs more fuel than that to function properly.

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mxgirl737
02-17-2008, 07:40 PM
I've been eatting aprox. 1200-1400 cals a day...and working out quite a bit...and drinking a LOT of water. I cut out pop. I also have personal trainers and dieticians thru mayo's gym and wellness program. I think I'm being fairly healthy. I eat a LOT of veg. I don't know, I had apples and everything in my car. I just didn't want them... and sort of had a mini binge, I guess.

I was going to the gym every day (excluding weekends), but this week I haven't had much time to go. ...Breakfast is also very hard for me. When I wake up, I'm just not hungry. I force myself to eat a banana...Then later in the morning (around 8 if I'm at work by 6...) I have something more filling. But days like today...it's nearly impossible for me to get in a good breakfast unless I wake up at 4am!!! ...I already have to get up at 4:30 most days...so I really don't want to lose that extra 1/2 hour, you know?

JayEll
02-17-2008, 09:34 PM
mxgirl! So! 11 a.m. is a different story... :lol:

OK, it sounds like you are following a supervised program through Mayo Clinic. That's good. But still, some better planning would help you.

Personally, I don't think I could face a banana on an empty stomach! To each their own... What about something like a lowfat yogurt with fruit? Or a Kashi bar and some 1% milk? Those would give a little more nutrition.

A snack doesn't have to be large or difficult--you just have to make sure you get it. It's really hard to lose weight, and being terrifically hungry makes it that much harder! :lol:

OK, so you're doin' good. Hang in there! And you also learned a valuable lesson about the pizza... namely that if you eat a whole big bunch of calories for lunch, you'll STILL be hungry later on. Grrr! :mad: So, another reason to plan a bit better.

You hang in there, OK! You've got great success so far. :cheer2:

Jay

DaisyNicole
02-17-2008, 09:38 PM
for breakfast i usually do a serving of Cheerios with 1% milk and a banana. I get some whole grains, dairy, and a fruit all right there. It keeps me going and satiated for about 4 1/2 hours which is good!

mxgirl737
02-17-2008, 10:44 PM
I wish I had time to sit down and have some cereal ...I've never really liked cereal, but I'd try! Usually I'm running so far behind in the morning...I have to catch the bus to get to work (Mayo parking is HORRIBLE)...I keep telling myself I'm going to try grapefruit or something...I just can't fit it in :(... one of the specialists that spoke to all of us in the weightloss clinic told us that it doesn't really matter what time you have breakfast...just something to jump start the metabolism when you first wake up. This is weird for me though too, because sometimes I work until midnight, then have to be back at the hospital at 7am or earlier the next day... This also makes planning SUPER difficult. I never really know what my schedule is going to be until the week of---or even the day of sometimes.

I try really, really hard to always pack enough food just in case I get stuck working later...I refuse to eat at the cafeteria here. For a really good hospital, they sure have HORRIBLE food!

Any suggestions on what I could do about this--the planning part anyway?

BattleAx
02-18-2008, 12:07 AM
Try eating a string cheese either with the banana or or at your first opportunity after arriving for work. Or have a few nuts. Or half or a full Kashi bar or similar. These are all easy to bring with you and require no prep.

I cut up grapfruits into about 6 or 8 sections and put them into ziplocs. I can just grab n go in the morning. Cut up like that, they're easy to eat.

Heather
02-18-2008, 12:29 AM
I'm a grab-and-go fan myself. It's Sunday night, so I just packed up 5 bags of raw veggies to take to work. I also mix up my own dried fruit and nut mix and pack up little 1.5 ounce baggies. Tomorrow I just have to slap some turkey on some bread, grab a piece of fruit and stuff everything in my insulated bag!!

Some other good grab and go foods are yogurt, hard boiled egg... maybe some 2% cheese and a couple of crackers.... a granola bar (I love the kashi ones)....

Once you get into it, it's fun to plan ahead!

PhotoChick
02-18-2008, 12:36 AM
one of the specialists that spoke to all of us in the weightloss clinic told us that it doesn't really matter what time you have breakfast...just something to jump start the metabolism when you first wake up.
Well, yeah, but a single banana doesn't really make a whole breakfast! :) It's not meant to last 5 hours or more.

Like others have said - some string cheese, some yogurt, a small bag of almonds, anything with some protein to help supplement the banana.

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Villaine
02-18-2008, 12:40 AM
Hi. I'm new. I just wanted to suggest getting "quick snacks" like we like to have in our house. I buy stuff like the Kashi bars or cereal bars with few calories like the special K bars. I also love fruit snacks. We always have a big bowl of different snacks for around 100 calories. So if we have the urge to snack we can grab something like that. It's easy to grab and go.

If I know I'm going to be gone for a while and I'm trying to be healthy I'll put a few things in my purse, so if I'm out and really hungry I can just have some fruit snacks or something. :)

I also like having grab and go baggies of servings of fruit like grapes or veggies. Apples keep you filled up for a while. cheese already cut up into the correct serving size in baggies is helpful to me too.

JayEll
02-18-2008, 06:55 AM
Villaine, :wel3fc:

Jay

PaulaM
02-18-2008, 09:18 PM
I'd love to hear what the Mayo Diet consists of, could you tell us a little about it?

PhotoChick
02-18-2008, 09:24 PM
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mayo-clinic-diet/WT00016

There are also a couple of fad diets out there that also call themselves Mayo Clinic diets, but they're not.

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mxgirl737
02-18-2008, 10:10 PM
Sure I can tell you about it. It's called the "healthy weight for every body" wellness program. To me it seems very similar to the "Biggest Loser" diet.

To begin with, they suggest most females eat about 1200 - 1400 calories on average---this may be more so the doctors/nutritionists talk to you about all that. Men are more, I believe 1600 to about 1800 (again this varies). I strive for about 1200 calories, but if I go over my calories with vegetables or fruits this is ok. They follow something called the Healthy Weight Pyramid They say that the minimum servings of fruits/vegs are 3...but you can eat unlimited amounts (I would assume this COULD become a problem with fruit....I don't know though), 4-8 servings of carbs, 3-7 protein/dairy, 3-5 fats, and 75 calories sweets. They emphasize energy density and feeling full on less calories. They also really recommend at least 30 min physical activity. They set you up with menus and all that stuff, but I don't usually follow them. For one, it costs so much to follow ...and secondly I just don't like a lot of the stuff they put on them. They have a great book, Healthy Weight for Every Body...it's helped me quite a bit.

I think what has helped me the most though thru Mayo Clinic has been the constant support and access to all the latest in healthcare. There are two gyms. The newer gym is amazing---it's called the Dan Abraham Healthy Living Center ---named after the guy that invented Slimfast--believe it or not. They offer programs to educate and help the employees/their family. They offer personal trainers, body analysis, weekly meetings with specialists to educate and they really stress behavior modification. The best part though, it's free. You don't need a gym membership to take part in the programs, cooking classes, or analysis. The gym membership is pretty sweet too...25/month---but if you use it a certain amount of times it goes down to 15/month---you can't beat that!!!

I can't post links...so you should definitely google it and see more about it. It's seemed to work so far.

bargoo
02-18-2008, 10:26 PM
You have an awesome opportunity with the program at work. I'd love to have something like that. You need to learn to say "no thanks " to the food pushers, every office has them.Be prepared with your own healthy snacks.And of course they know about the plan at work, just tell them it is too good of an opportunity to pass up and you want to give it your best shot.By the way Rochester is my home town although I haven't been there in quite a while.

mxgirl737
02-18-2008, 10:41 PM
really? I grew up here too...then went off to college, and now I find myself back. I'm sure california is a million times more exciting though!!!

It's so hard with the food pushers. I swear, when I refuse to eat something there are some people that give me so much crap about it. It's like they don't want me to succeed. Quite a few people in my direct unit are also trying to lose weight and attempting to take advantage of the Healthy Living Center... but they just don't go and are definitely not as determined as me. Whenever they ask me about how I'm doing or whatever...and I tell them... they seem to criticize me afterwards. It's just weird.

RaluCat
02-19-2008, 07:41 PM
Protein in the morning - I always "knew" that, but I didn't try it until I heard it in a seminar; at least 15 grams of protein! For me it works wonders, I'm never hungry when I have my lunch! I take my 15 grams from
- ricotta/cottage cheese with 1tsp honey (add some oatmeal or high fiber cereal and you have the PERFECT breakfast),
- 2 slices swiss cheese, - 100 cal,
- boiled egg (I can boil several and keep them in the fridge),
- Luna bar (only 9g protein, but it's great on the go),
- whey powder shake.
These are very small but filling, because I'm also not hungry in the morning and I can't eat much...

Lunch
- veggie stew - we cook a big batch and it's great second (and third) day for lunch; can be packed in a tight plastic box; To thicken the stew I mash the potatoes in it (or let them boil longer - they mash themselves :) )
- roasted chicken breast with some wild rice cooked in the evening; to roast the chicken I do this: lightly cover it with Dijon mustard (just enough for the breadcrumbs to "stick") and then cover it in breadcrumbs+herb mixture; in the oven at 450 for 25-30 min and it's done!
- whole wheat pasta with marinara sauce - you can make a large portion for dinner and have some to reheat for lunch next day

PaulaM
02-19-2008, 11:13 PM
Thanks! You are so fortunate to be there.

mxgirl737
02-19-2008, 11:28 PM
So, I had my weigh in tonight... and remember earlier in the post how I was beating myself up over "cheating" on my diet?

Well...I lost 2.5lbs this week. :-D It's less than what I have been losing, but I'll take it!!

JayEll
02-20-2008, 07:11 AM
Hey! :yay: And now you really can't believe yourself! :lol:

Jay

Aldebaran
02-20-2008, 07:51 AM
JayEll. :D

mxgirl, sounds like you're in a very good program, well, the Mayo clinic is legendary... and your weight loss is awesome!!! When I was your weight :), I went to the most famous weight-loss doctor in our country. She presents one of her successful patients every month in a health magazine.

Well, when I got there, they checked my blood work, looked at my stretch marks and told me I'd have them forever, yaay! They told me to rub body milk in after every shower, so my skin can shrink. And then the big bad doctor came in. She took me to a private compartment, next to another one (they were separated by curtains only), where another patient was waiting.

She gave me a 1200 calories diet to follow (very boring, the same thing over and over again, every day), told me I have to attend her kinesiotherapy (work out classes wrapped in a fancy word for movement), and then took her little pulsar and did acupressure on my "hunger points". When she was finished, she went to the other patient, and what I heard was: "Dear lady, what is this? What are you thinking? You lost only two pounds in the last month! I cannot lose your weight! If you have a problem with it, you have to go to a psychotherapist (this was all in a very nasty tone)...pause... why are you looking at me like that? Don't look at me like that!"

The reason the woman was looking at her like that was because I was in the other compartment, getting dressed, and listening to the verbal abuse she was taking.
Now I couldn't follow the plan, because I was too emotionally involved with food, probably like that other woman, so I ate nothing and drank only fresh squeezed orange juice for three days before the next visit with the big bad doctor. And she was quite satisfied with my loss... And then I gave up, and carried the weight around for two more years.

It is so important to have understanding and gentle people around you, before you get the hang of not eating when you're stressed.

A WARNING: do not think that this pace is going to go on forever. After 80 pounds or so I stopped losing, but was maintaining for two years.

Recently I gained 20 pounds again due to depression, but I'm out of it now, and I'm losing the last 60 pounds slowly, but healthily. Because I'm not on a restrictive diet, I do not feel the need for a pizza, but if I do, I will be here, crying to you all about it.

aphil
02-20-2008, 08:29 AM
I agree that a banana is not enough for breakfast-they average around 110 calories. That would be considered a snack, not a meal. When you eat too low calories and let yourself get too hungry, it sets you up for a binge-which is what happened to you. Your body gets so hungry physically, that it wants to scrounge up ANYTHING-especially foods that are high in fat and/or sugar.

I also agree that 25 pounds in a month is way too fast. It seems to me that 1200-1400 calories a day might be a little too low for your current body weight. (Although it might be perfect for someone who only needs to lose 20 pounds.)

Your current body weight has a lot to do with the calorie level that you should be on, because the larger you are, the more calories you can eat and still lose weight. This is why I don't really like every woman being on the same level. The calorie needs of a 240 pound woman, and a 140 pound woman are not the same. :)

mxgirl737
02-20-2008, 09:24 PM
aldebaron,

I'm sorry that you had that experience. It's horrible. When I was a little girl I saw a nutritionist... and she called me fat to my face. That's hard for a little girl to hear, especially when I didn't think I was really that fat. It made me sort of give up...I don't know. It basically made me want to eat more. Now, I have found a really great nutritionist...she's smart and knowledgeable on all the current research too. She explains why certain foods are better... and has never called me fat. haha in fact she's quite motivational.