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02-11-2008, 04:18 PM
I've been reading all these studies on how diet soda can be bad for you/cause you to gain weight blah blah blah. I really do need to cut back. For some reason, I find it hard to drink water with a meal. I need something with flavor. I tried adding lemon..helps but not much. Anyone have any suggestions? What do you ladies drink besides diet soda and water? BTW...I can't drink coffee or tea w/o artificial sweetner either so I guess thats equivalent to diet soda.

02-11-2008, 04:26 PM
Seltzer is a nice middle ground and If you need to pump up the flavor lemon juice gives a good kick
I also like flavored teas iced or hot the beauty part is You control what and how much sweetener you put in
I'm in Jersey too :)
a lot of people use Crystal light or whatever equivalent of it. If I use something like that I add another 8-12 oz of water than what is called for!

02-11-2008, 04:31 PM
Thanks KO!!! I completely forgot about Seltzer! I can do that...i drew a blank after every1 started jumping on my back about drinking diet soda ..everytime a new study is done my phone is ringing off the hook...its like "lets all attack the chick on a diet about diet soda..while we stuff our faces with burger king!" drives me nuts..sorry had to vent:dizzy:

02-11-2008, 04:41 PM
Aquafina also makes flavored waters that are, in my opinion, quite good. I don't know if there's any calories in it but I enjoy a Licorice Spice Tea by Stash. If you like black licorice you'll like this. Hope this helps some.

02-11-2008, 04:43 PM
I love milk with dinner!


P.S. Jersey girls, unite!

02-11-2008, 04:47 PM
Crystal Light! There are all sorts of On The Go flavors - and even other brands. Some of them have green tea in them... It's still water - only with flava!

Fruit 2o is good, too - but I think it is too expensive for what it is.

02-11-2008, 04:47 PM
thanks ladies!!! kara..i love the name of your work plan lol so many convenient temptations and the flesh is weak(sometimes) lol sending some will power your way!!!;)

02-11-2008, 05:12 PM
Jersey Girl: I know A&P has a brand of SF non carbonated drinks in Liter Bottles I'd have to go there to remember but some of em have been a lifesaver!
I'm a big snapple girl too Diet raspberry!!!!
Ultimately IMHO as long as you're not Only drinking Diet soda you're ok. . .so make a plan to work on reducing.
(Dont mind my excessive perkiness I'm trying to psych myself up for Ph 1)
oh a good Temptation Battler! SF Jello cups with the whip of your choice

02-11-2008, 05:34 PM
Yeah, I'm a Crystal Light fan too! I keep a pitcher of it in the fridge at home to drink with dinner or whenever, and little packets in my desk at work which come in handy in the afternoons. It's only 5 calories per serving, though I ususally drink 2 servings at a time.

02-11-2008, 05:39 PM
Thanks KO! Good luck with Ph1...i know this sounds silly but it works for me. If I keep mint scented lip balm helps with cravings...the scent or taste of mint has been proven to do that.

I think the whole deal with the diet soda is the artificial sweetner that isn't good for you...I read that it trains ur body to get used to not having to burn calories whenever u taste something sweet so ur body doesnt heat up as much as it normally does to burn calories because it isn't expecting them. Who knows though..nothing ever has solid proof with these studies.

I'm gonna stick it out with seltzer water. I think the carbonation tricks my brain into thinking im drinking soda. lol Or I might try adding a little NSA cranberry juice to a bottle of water..I'll figure something out!

02-11-2008, 08:15 PM
I think the new info about diet sodas will require further studies to try to determine the causes. Many times when there are new results from a medical research project it hits the headlines too soon. In other words, more studies are needed, or studies continued/repeated to see if the same results can be obtained. Years maybe 1995 or so, I read a long, in depth paper on the adverse effects of aspartame. I gave up aspartame and this included diet soft drinks at that time due to my frequent migraines. This worked for me. I have much fewer migraines now. I rarely drink any soft drink. I do occasionally drink one with splenda now. I will be interested to see if the research done on soft drinks is related to aspartame or to any artificial sweeteners.
I drink unsweeted, unflavored iced tea. I used to enjoy sweetened iced tea, but I learned to enjoy darkly brewed at home iced tea.

02-11-2008, 08:36 PM
What is interesting to me is that, when I looked for today's story online I found this from several years ago. This may not be new information. Wonder why it's just making headlines now?

I also avoid aspartame (and MSG) because of the migraine connection. I decide not to risk Splenda when I read that some people are having similar issues with that. Don't need more migraines!

02-11-2008, 08:39 PM
What is interesting to me is that, when I looked for today's story online I found this from several years ago. This may not be new information. Wonder why it's just making headlines?

Exactly. I have been reading studies and listening to "experts" say these things for many, many years. I think more studies are being done, but much of it has been shown to occur in the past already.

02-11-2008, 08:49 PM
It made headlines back then too. One study doesn't really "prove" anything from a scientific standpoint, so multiple researchers and research institutions will perform similar studies with only slight variations. The first study came out, it was reported as if it was new information...then this new study came out, and it was also reported as if it was new information. Mostly because new information is more exciting than "Scientists confirm conclusion we reported 4 years ago".

02-12-2008, 09:26 AM
I drink the occasional diet pop - somedays it is just what I want. Though I have learned with diet I want it in a glass with ice, something that never mattered with the non-diet stuff. It makes it more of a treat.

I try to keep homemade iced tea on hand. Yes, I use artificial sweetener, but not too much, plus I know that the liquid itself is "real" and not a chemical. Same with coffee - no sweetener in my latte, but if I have more at work I add a tiny bit (1/3 packet) of sweetener.

I also always have water with me, so I feel I get LOTS of it into my day as well!


02-12-2008, 10:03 AM
Diet soda hasn't affected my weight loss at all, so I'm gonna keep on drinking! I really think the biggest connection is that sometimes when people have the diet soda, they eat more food, but since I'm tracking my food consumption so closely, I know that's not an issue for me.

I've also read that the phosphoric acid in cola-type beverages (both regular and diet) can leech calcium from your bones. Jeff and I drink diet ginger ale, which has no phosphoric acid. Artificial sweeteners have never bothered me, so I don't limit my consumption (not that I go purposely adding it to things where it's not needed or anything--I don't want to sound like I sit and eat aspartame on a spoon as a snack :p ).

02-12-2008, 10:15 AM
I thought the issue with the sodas was the artificial sweeteners and the fact that people that drink a lot of soda were consuming a lot of them. I never got in the soda habit, so the most I drink is an occasional glass of Diet Root Beer to kill a sweet craving. But I have been using consumption of lots of artificial sweeteners as a crutch, and even though it's helped me lose a lot of weight, I don't think it can be good for you. I think it's odd that this diet focuses on healthy and nutritious whole foods and yet encourages the use of sweeteners. I guess the limits come in the sweet treat calorie allowance, but if you're like me, you can get around that - f'rinstance, a latte is really milk, so I count it as dairy, and the shot of sf syrup doesn't count at all.

Anyway, I recently came up with new rules for Schmoodle. I think this will be key for me in continued weight loss an maintenance. If I'm binging now on artificially sweetened stuff, how easy will it be to go back to the real stuff? I've also come to the conclusion that I'm one of those people that is set off by the sugar alcohols. My goal is to one day become the person that can have A cookie and walk away. Lots of work to be done there yet.

So, no more NSA fudgesicles, pudding, hot chocolate, SF jello, candy, etc. around here. I'm going to allow myself moderate treats made with agave nectar or dark chocolate a couple of times/week and we'll see how that goes. I think I just need to learn to eat the real stuff sanely.

02-12-2008, 12:44 PM
I recently read this in "You, Staying Young" by Dr. Oz:
"Studies show that people who drink fizzy or syrup based drinks twice a day or more run a 90 percent higher risk of getting cancer of the pancreas than those who never drink them".
That really caught my attention. I drink a lot of diet pop. I really need to work on getting off of it. I have noticed increased tooth sensitivity to cold food & pressure. My dentist said I need to quit drinking acidic drinks. They wear down the enamel. Also, because I have GERD, I need to get off of it. Carbonated drinks aggravate reflux. I really am addicted to Coke Zero. :( My new resolution is to drink more tea, less diet pop.

02-12-2008, 09:49 PM
Sorry to say it ladies but it looks like aspartame(nutrasweet), sucralose(splenda and saccharin(sweet n' low) all trigger the same mechanisms that plain ole sugar does in your body. The mechanism I speak of is that of insulin release which is the very hormone we are trying to restrict secretion of on the South Beach Diet. The release of insulin from your pancreas tells your body to store fat!
Now the effects of artificial sweeteners may not produce as LARGE an increase in insulin levels as sugar simply because not as much is used in recipes (they are much sweeter than regular sugar, classified as high intensity sweeteners). This is probably the reason why we still lose weight when consuming these sweeteners, in addition to the fact that we may all metabolize synthetic compounds differently.
The point is this, if we are trying so hard to adjust our diet and are living though relative misery by eating only low carb food, why hinder all these efforts by drinking soda?
I would call myself as addicted to diet soda as the next dieter and have been trying my damnest to wean myself off of it over the last few months. I find it very frightening that I crave it in such a fundamental way (much more then I would ever crave water). So I guess I am just really just trying to convince myself not to fall off the wagon here :)
Oh, and these artificial sweeteners are in Crystal Light, On the Go, and pretty much everything else that says "Diet" on it.

02-12-2008, 10:07 PM
Just so you guys know lipton makes a cold brew iced tea bag no sweetener so you control how much sweetenr you want