Weight Loss Support - 300+ And Ready To Try Again... #132

02-12-2002, 08:24 AM

We are a group of people who are working together to lose our excess weight.
We are on different plans and are of different sizes.
We want to invite everyone to join us in our journey.
We share laughter and tears.
We share what works for us and what doesn't.
We recently started a Topic of the Day.

Monday........Motivation Monday
Tuesday.......Tuesday Tips
Wednesday.....Wednesday Weigh ins
Thursday......Thankful Thursday
Friday........Friday Facials, Fingernails and Fun
Saturday.......Sit-up Saturdays - any physical activity
Sunday.........Soup and Salad Sunday - recipes

These are not required topics ...just ideas to share. We have found them very helpful. We also share heartaches and fears...joys and celebrations.

Please feel free to jump right in with us.
And be sure to check if there is a second page. We don't want anyone to miss any posts

02-12-2002, 09:20 AM

Are we allowed to ask what the magic number is??:o My son's birthday is tomorrow...he's going to be 11! MY BABY!:cry: I can't imagine where the time has gone! We're not having a party this year, my boys (son & dh) are going camping this weekend with the Boy Scouts...BBBRRRRR!! Daughter & I are going into Manhattan to see "Les Miserables." I think I mentioned that once before...I LOVE THAT SHOW! :cool:

Weigh in this AM, come what may!!! I haven't been there in 3 weeks AND I got my period yesterday... :( Ah, just that much less on the scale next week!

I've been exercising these past few days! So proud! :smug: I love my "Fat Eliminator" tape. I combines cardio and strength training in short increments...whatever I can't do, I march or jog in place...I just CANNOT do jumping jacks! Good sweatin' going on! Today is my "Yoga for Weight Loss" tape...Trying to alternate each day...I'd go for a walk if it wasn't so damn cold...

Well, my little darling wants breakfast...at almost 11, I think HE can pour his own bowl of cereal! :lol:

Hi to all...I'll report back with weigh in results...:^:

02-12-2002, 12:05 PM
Happy Birthday, 2cute!

02-12-2002, 03:29 PM
Hi Everyone! :wave: I will hop in later and talk to everyone after WI, but I was re-reading thru thread # 131 trying to catch up with what's been going on while I missed a couple of days and Andria's post really touched me and I wanted to respond to her.

Andria: First of all, let me say how very sorry I am to have heard that you lost a child. I am fairly new to the site and don't know you very well yet, but I can't even imagine how it must have hurt to lose a baby. I have two sons of my own and I wouldn't even want to think about it. But I do know what it means to be depressed for I have been many times in my life and I'm sure I will be again at one point. The other day I read something on another site and it really spoke to me and I would like to share it with you. It is called the story of the goose:

I have about 20 amazing women I have met over the internet. (like right here every day on our thread) We've never seen each other or heard each others voices, but almost 3 years later we are the best of friends, and all of us are on this same journey. Our mascot, or hero is the Goose. Why?? Because geese all travel the same distance, make the same journey, go the same direction to achieve the same goal, but sometimes one falls out of formation cause she is just 'too tired to fly any longer'. She knows where she is supposed to go. The rest of the flock are well on their way, but she just can't keep up. The joy of being in such a strong formation though is that when all seems hopeless, she is carried forward by the strength of those flying around her, she is lifted and kept in the air by the sheer wind of wings flying beside her. When she regains her strength, she is still in formation, and on her way again, with the never-ending support of her flock. And when it is her turn to keep another in the air, she will remember.

And whether we have been here for awhile or even if we are new, we all feel pain and get discouraged. This is just to let you know we are all here for you. Hope you have a wonderful day.

02-12-2002, 06:45 PM

02-12-2002, 07:07 PM
Hi everyone,

Happy Birthday, 2cute. Have a wonderful day.

I'm home sick again. :lol: Having fun watching QVC, olympics, etc.
Today is Fat Tuesday or in hawaii, Malasada Day. My mom is making Portuguese doughnuts. She fills them with custard pudding. I'm going to stay away from it. My bod is going through **** with the flu and TOM too. I'll be glad to go back to work tomorrow. Next year, I will get a flu shot. Hawaii weather has been very rainy this winter. Every other week we get rain. These past 4 days have been cold and rainy (cold 62 degrees F). It may not be cold by your standards, but once your body gets used to heat. It freezes at any change. My sister lives high up on our volcano and she's experiencing 43 degrees. Brrrr. Anyway, these weather changes are making everyone sick. With every change we keep passing it back to each other.

Did any of you see the Canadian pairs skate last night? It was a fix losing to the Russians with a flawless program vs Russia's flaws. All that hard work. I also watched the Westminister's Dog Show. They did a touching tribute to the K-9 Dog unit of the police, fema, and fire dept. The handlers and dogs came out to standing ovation. They worked at the World Trade, Pentagon, and in earthquakes. My dog enjoyed the toy group. He's a long haired chihuahua and he stood up on his hind legs when he saw the chihuahuas prance around the ring. Cutie pie.

Thin, I ribbon embroider the center of the #4395. It makes it so lovely to wear. Every little bit counts.

Take care of yourselves,

02-12-2002, 08:20 PM
Weigh in was OK...258...4# up from four weeks ago, and it's that time of month...not as bad as I had feared...New goals in place...I'll be 45 on July 3...I'd like to lose that many lbs by then. I know that' s a lot...approx 2#/wk...I've got my work cut out for me. I'd like at least 50 off by vacation, late August...short term goal: 10 lbs down by Easter 3/31...long term...200 or bust by the end of the summer...final goal: 150 by my next birthday... :smug:

mini goal...get my A$$ off the computer and fix myself a delightful salad for dinner, to be followed by Frozen Snickers Bar Pie! I couldn't find the cupcake liners I KNOW are in the pantry somewhere...probably with the chocolate pudding mix...I nearly had a panic attack when I got to that point in the recipe AND COULDN'T FIND THE PUDDING MIX!!! I substituted a package of Swiss Miss cocoa, and judging by all the sampling that I did...
2 thumbs up!! :T

Tuesday's Tip...
"This above all...to thine ownself be true."

Have a great day all...what's left of it! :lol:

My honey just had a beautiful bouquet of flowers delivered to me for Valentine's Day :love: He is the greatest!!

02-12-2002, 08:42 PM
Hello all! Happy birthday 2cute! Glad your doing ok. Well, I've done well so far. I joined WW on Monday. Not the most fun in the world to face a scale in public, but I did it. Maybe it will help motivate me! I also took my doberman and walked around the lake twice. I think it's a 1/4 mile each lap, so I did 1/2 mile. It doesn't sound like much, but I really wanted to take a nap instead of walking, but I walked anyway! You see I had to take my friend/landlord to the ER last night since his new girlfriend didn't know where the hospital was. He had a severe ahasma attack, and I didn't get home until 1:30 am, then had to go to work this morning. I've done really well eating wise, but not on water today. Have to fill up my nw WW water cup and sip on it. Bye the way, I was hungry when I got off work so I fixed a tuna salad sandwich (FF mayo, onions, tomato, and tuna in water on diet wheat bread) and I was wondering if it was beter to eat before I exersize or after? Any differance? Well, 2 days down !:dizzy: Bye for now!

02-12-2002, 09:29 PM
Alright everyone......my first weigh in. I need a drumroll please.dadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadad a

I lost 10.5 pounds! I thought I was going to die when she told me that! I don't want to toot my own horn, but I am soooooo happy. 10.5 pounds gone to NEVER EVER RETURN! That's 42 sticks of butter. Oh my Lord, just to realize that is crazy. Anyways, just wanted to stop in and share. I've got to cook dinner for the kids, but I will be back later! Hope everyone is doing great!

02-12-2002, 09:55 PM
Akasha Welcome to our fun group, you will enjoy it.

Andria Everyone seems to be down and out. Maybe it’s the weather. We blame “everything” on the weather in Minnesota.

Valorie Did you join WW?

2Cute Tell me all about your meal at Red Lobster, every detail, I want to “eat” vicariously through you. Maybe the burns that are taking longer are the ones that burned deeper. Lutifisk is a Norwegian food – cod soaked in lye. It is served swimming in melted butter. I don’t know which is worse lutifisk or blood sausage. When in the world do you sleep?????? If I could I would send you a great big helping of lutifisk for your birthday!!! :love:

Kat Thanks for the bread recipe. Isn’t allrecipes.com a great site.

Tina Congrats on the walking. That is a wonderful story. Thanks for posting it. CONGRATULATIONS Way to go, girl…..Back at ya with the happy faces.

I have been eating out and have to quit! I don’t count the calories then because I don’t know what they are – good excuse. I have been using going out to eat as my reward for putting up with my job – NOT GOOD. I really need to CONCENTRATE on weight loss for this next week to get focused and to start some new, good habits.

02-12-2002, 10:42 PM
Hello all I went to the Dr. today to get a shot and some medicine for this croup. Dh got home from Canada:love:

Congrats Queen bee on the weight loss.


Well I better gospend sometime with DH.

Tip for the day: Drink water

02-13-2002, 03:14 AM
Thank you again for all the birthday wishes today. You guys are great.
I had a very rollercoaster ride type of birthday. Good, bad, good , bad. :dizzy:
One thing for sure... I did a LOT of growing up today.
I was FORCED to look at my own defects.. and I didn't like what I saw.
It seems that I often only do things when I am FORCED to do it.
That includes from housecleaning to eatting my veggies and drinking my water... to finally growing up some too. :rolleyes:
I wish I could say I had a fun day... but I did not.
But, I did grow wiser...not just grow older. And that was a good thing. ;)
My evening did get better. Hubby sent me flowers and we went out for the evening...dinner and movie.

My food was good today. I did splurge a little at my dinner out... but left half on the plate and brought it home for lunch tomorrow.
Thin... hubby ordered that Maui Maui .. but it was too fishy for me.
I DID NOT eat any dessert. :D I feel good about my food.

QUEENB..CONGRATULATIONS!! That is just super!!! Keep up the good work.
I will respond to everyone else tomorrow night. I need to get off of here.
Wednesday I am taking care of my daughter-in-law and the babies so I won't be in till evening. Take care.. have a fun filled day... and STAY ON YOUR PROGRAM.

My picture is dedicated to QueenB... :D :D :D

02-13-2002, 08:47 AM
Well, I knew today would not be another loss. I goofed off too much this week. I didn't gain but still am disappointed in myself that I don't do more to get me to my goal.

I would like to use Saturday as a "renewal" day for me. Get my ducks in a row, as they say.

02-13-2002, 08:22 PM
:cry: Where is all my friends I am lonely.:?:

I feel better today I guess the shot worked.
I made a fat free dessert to take to my ladies circle supper tomorrow night is is called better than sex dessert. It has to be real good:lol: :devil:

Hurry back

02-13-2002, 09:41 PM
Hi Grannie...and everyone else!

Glad to hear you're feeling better...my son had a really croupy cough this a.m. I kept him home from school...he was not thrilled about missing school on his birthday!:?: He seems much better this evening. BTW...what's better than sex??!?? :lol: I mean the dessert of course!

Food choices have been great. I'm REALLY following the points to the letter...(number?) In my diligence, I'm seeing why I'm not losing...it's all the extra nibbles and "eyeballing" :eek: that's getting me nowhere! (Not to mention the out and out cheating!) I have been recording EVERY morsel that is going into my mouth...this morning I poured out my usual bowl of Raisin Bran...then I thought, hmmm let me actually MEASURE this...there must have been two cups of cereal in that bowl! When I put back a cup, thought, uh oh, not enough! But I sliced a banana and added the milk, thinking that I can have more if I need it, just count the points...I really didn't need more when I was done. At lunch, I had a slice of cheese and a piece of chicken eaten before I even thought about it...I just counted that towards what would have gone on my sandwich and bulked it up with lettuce, tomatoes and onions...Becoming aware of what's going down the old pie hole and WHY is something for me to work on!!

We're having ice cream cake for my son's birthday...I still have to tally my points for the day...if I'm close to the limit, I'll have some "Frozen Snickers" instead...SO GOOD!

So far so good, I'm keeping my goals in sight...I WILL do this!

gotta go...see y'all tomorrow!

02-13-2002, 09:43 PM
HELP - I just finished baking cookies. I have to stay away from the kitchen. I made them to give for Valentines tomorrow so pray for me!!!!

02-14-2002, 01:17 AM
Hi everyone! :wave: Just a quickie, I'm beat!!! Started my 'bra jobs' today. Did 3 stores so that I would have part of the day off tomorrow. There are 8 different styles to the new Playtex plus line that I'm setting. And 7 out of the 8 are underwires! :mad: The one that's not is a leopard print so guess what I came home with today? :o

I'm cooking dinner for the family and I invited mom over for dinner as well. This would have been her and dad's 60th wedding anniversary. Just didn't want her to sit home alone for dinner, ya know?

Can't take time to address each of you tonight. I'm really sorry. :yawn: But can't keep my eyes open.

I do have to address two though:

Tina: Congratulations to you on your loss! Woohoo! That should give you the incentive you need to stick with it for another week!!! Good for you!

Mary: Happy Birthday to you! Happy Birthday to you! Happy Birthday dear Mary! Happy Birthday to you!

Gonna run. I'll talk to you all later.

"I argue that we deserve the choice to do whatever we want with our faces and bodies without being punished by an ideology that is using attitudes, economic pressure, and even legal judgments regarding women's appearance to undermine us psychologically and politically." - Naomi Wolf

02-14-2002, 01:48 AM
I was expecting to come in here tonight and find a ton of posts.
What a shock when only a few. I am really grateful to those of you who did post. I would have been really disappointed if no one did.

Kat... what great words of wisdom!!! I really got a lot from what you said. HONESTY about how much we put into our mouths.
What a unique idea. :lol:

Luckylady... You mentioned using Saturday as a "renewal day".
Why wait until Saturday? Why not TODAY??
Did my prayer work ??? did you stay away from those cookies?

Mary.... I am so glad you feel better.
I have had "Better than sex" myself. :lol:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Thursday !!!!

Thin... you snuck in on me while I was posting.
With that new bra you won't need any of that dessert of Grannies. :lol:
You animal you. :lol:

My day went pretty well today. I could barely walk to the car to drive home. I am just NOT the woman I used to be anymore. :(
The new baby is sooooo good. The 18 month old just LOVES her.
She loves her too much... she is always wanting to kiss and hug.
I did laundry and cooked. I am ready for bed. LOL

Followed program all day ...except... I gave into temptation once. Some sort of yogurt pie. :^: I tried to justify because it was yogurt. What a bunch of bull. :rolleyes:

I am out of here. Hope more come in tomorrow. Good night.
This one is for you Grannie. Again.. Happy Birthday !!! :D

02-14-2002, 02:35 AM
Hey everyone :)

Just checking in and catching up on my reading. You are all such angels. A special thanks to Queen for posting the Goose story. This year hasn't been quite as bad, and I do think it has a lot to do with all the love and support I receive here.

Happy Birthday to 2cute and Mary!
Tina, 10.5 lbs?!!! I am so happy for you!
Thin, you are always so solid and supportive. Sounds like you are that way for everyone in your life. :)
Kat, isn't it cool when a program begins to click for you? I love that feeling!
Mary, glad you are beginning to feel better. And I'm hoping that recipe is going to be submitted soon... ;)
Lucky, I couldn't help giggling at the thought of you getting your ducks in a row. Images of a shooting gallery came to mind! :lol: I really do like the idea of a Saturday renewal.
2cute, sounds like you had a healthy serving of self-awareness served up for your birthday. *HUGS*
Valerie, you are off to a great start! Walking around a lake with your dog sounds lovely.
Prism, get well soon! Ribbon embroidery on the bra is such a cute idea.

I didn't post yesterday because I was putting finishing touches on my submission for the newspaper. It isn't perfect, but I wanted to share it with you all even if it is kind of long.

Every once in a while life brings us to a gathering moment where we are allowed to see who we are and what we have become with amazing clarity. There isn’t always a rhyme or a reason as to why these moments come upon us, but they quite often portend change. We find ourselves at a crossroads with decisions to be made.
Recently I found myself at just such a point in time. I was standing on the side of the road with hundreds of other people, waiting for what was most likely to be a once in a lifetime event. We were all waiting for that magic moment the Olympic torch would be carried past.
I am not sure what we were really expecting. There was a carnival sort of atmosphere, despite the bitter wind whipping around us. My youngest kept shouting about “the parade”. One exuberant teen picked up a traffic cone, lofted it high in the air and went sprinting down the street. We laughed and cheered him on. It was hilarious and what I think we were expecting; the ideal of youth, enthusiasm and energy packaged together into an Olympic dream.
The reality of our Olympic torch moment touched me more deeply than I can fully describe. Our bearer was neither an exuberant youth nor an accomplished athlete, but he held the torch high and proud as he moved down the street. And even though he was not what my mind had prepared me for, he carried our hopes and dreams along with him in each shuffling step.
Life has not been particularly kind to all of us. We are faced with challenges from all quarters: physical, mental and spiritual. Money can be tight, education is cut short, and children come too quickly or not at all. Our expectations of the future can come crashing down hard and leave us standing amidst piles of rubble, wondering how we arrived at this point. Other times we are standing high, overlooking all that is good and wondering again, how we got here.
What that moment brought clear to me was that none of it really matters. Where we are in life does not really matter; it is how we arrive at each point and choose to respond to each challenge. I came to realize the one thing I truly want out of life is to be someone who stands out, whose life is so exemplary that it could be chosen to shine as a beacon for others. I want to live a life worthy of carrying an Olympic torch.
For each of us there are moments which define our humanity and bring us together. This last year was full of poignant stories of heroism and sorrow, with many of us being forced to look beyond self, to reach out and touch another human being. I know the Olympics have had their share of negative comments this year, even down to people saying they should have been cancelled. I, for one, am incredibly grateful for what they have brought to me, this state, and the world as a whole. We need a chance to celebrate. We need time to cheer and remember there is light and life in the world. And as far as the running of the Olympic torch is concerned, we all needed to be reminded; a candle loses nothing by lighting another candle.

Hugs and loves to you all. Hope you have a terrific Valentine's day!


02-14-2002, 03:16 AM
Andria... that was truly AWESOME !!!!

I knew it would be good before I even started reading... but when I was done I was in awe. You did yourself PROUD. :smug:

02-14-2002, 05:08 AM

02-14-2002, 05:12 AM

02-14-2002, 05:27 AM
Hi everyone,

Back to work for me today. I was okay, felt better actually by keeping busy. I have a long weekend to look forward too, so I can manage 3 days of work.

Reading everyone's posts is such powerful inspiration. Losing weight and getting into our programs. What a difference a year makes. Last year I was struggling alone. This year I have all of you. Have any of you read "The complete idiot's guide to losing weight?" I bought this book many years ago and never opened it. It's pretty informative. I liked this passage:

"Some people do lose weight successfully and they seem to have some traits in common. They follow rules, but mostly they invent these rules for themselves. They lose weight for their own reasons and not to please other people. Some successful losers join weight loss centers; some go it alone. Most important, they don't give up on themselves."

Happy Valentines,

02-14-2002, 06:29 AM
Happy Valentine's Day!

This is a bit early for my first posting of the day, but DH and my oldest daughter just drove off to meet a bus. She is going to one of the Olympic events today. She is so excited!

Any of you who live in colder climates would laugh at the work that went into preparing this child for the trip. It is nearly impossible to find things like snow boots if you live in the southern part of the state. Fortunately, we pretty much knew what was needed. I've never skied a day in my life, but I worked at one of the resorts for years, and her daddy is an avid skier. This child is soooo layered. If she gets too hot or cold, it is definitely her own fault. ;)

Anyone have fun plans for today? I have a hand-made card and a little present for DH. I'm not a crafty type person, but the card came out pretty cute. He has to work tonight, so we'll be celebrating another time. I threatened his life if he thought about buying me chocolates or flowers. We'll have to see if he actually listened.

If I can get someone to watch my youngest, I'll go up to the cemetery and work on repairing some of the damage from that stupid gopher. I have so much to learn about gardening, but things seem to come out all right when you have a ton of love invested in the project. Even if all the plants aren't destroyed, they can use some extra pampering. Time to work in that winter mulch, etc.

I was tempted to do something extra like cinnamon rolls for the guys at work today, but I figured it was a BAD idea. I don't need any excuses to cheat, and I've been keeping to my plan really well. Besides, I know the hardest part of any holiday for me isn't the actual day of, because I plan for it. I have a worse time with the days after, when I go into the store and all that candy is on sale.

DH should be returning soon. I'd better head back to bed and try to get some more sleep. :)

Have a great day!


02-14-2002, 09:08 AM
Andria 2Cute took the words out of my "fingers"....your article is wonderful. Thank you for posting it so I could read it.

I just heard a building in Chicago had a bomb go off. Please don't let it be like Sept.!

Did anyone see the pairs skating? What did you think? I didn't get to see it but have seen the Canadian's before and they are gold medal material for sure.

Have a Happy (but careful of the chocolate) Valentine's

02-14-2002, 09:24 AM
*~*~*Happy Valentine's Day!*~*~*

Everyone armed against the chocolate onslaught? Here are my weapons: willpower, resolve, keeping goals in mind, determination...anything else? Oh yes! I ORDERED dh that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER should chocolate cross my threshold! Yeah, that oughta do it! He sent me a beautiful bouquet of flowers instead! :D

Food choices are still good...I'm planning today's menu as soon as I'm done here...I'm focused!

Andria, that was lovely. Thank you for sharing it with us!

Ooops, my little sick boy is calling...I'll be back

02-14-2002, 10:59 AM
:love: Happy Valentine's Day Everyone! :love:
I hope everyone has a wonderful day today.

Andria: That was absolutely wonderful. Wish I had such a talent with words. You are blessed.
2cute: Don't beat yourself up about the yogurt pie. It happens. Hope you have a good day.
Val: Glad you joined WW. I have joined in the past, but this is my final time and it is the bomb. I love it.
Kat: You crack me up. I love the way you put things. :lol:
Ladybug: Thanks for the congrats. Now I've only got a million more pounds to go!
TT: You are such a special lady. We are all blessed you are here. P.S. Keep sending those great recipes. :T
Malia: Sorry you have been sick. Glad you are feeling better.

Wanted to share a quick little victory with you this morning. Seems like the main problem I have with my weight loss is will power. Which as I guess, many have. After all, if we all had willpower, there wouldn't be any overweight people. Anyways, one thing I ask is that after dinner is fixed, that if there are any leftovers, that my husband put them away. I'm pretty good about leaving them alone if they are put up in the fridge, but if they are actually out....within reach.....well, you guys know where they usually end up. :s: So, last night I baked some chicken I had bought from the store already seasoned in the pack, and it looked really good, but I stayed away from it. Then when DH got up this morning, he heated up some for breakfast, (yeah, I know, chicken for breakfast?) but it gets worse........and when I came in from work, 3 chicken legs were laying out and that ol' devil came upon me and before I knew it, I had snarfed down all three! So, where is the victory you might ask? Well, here it is: Before I snarfed down those 3 chicken legs, I still had the consciousness to peel off the skin and somewhere in the back of my mind, even though this meal was unplanned, I knew I was just eating 3 points. And I honestly feel, had something worse have been left out, I would have maybe just wrapped it up in a towel and with my head turned, tossed it in the fridge. :lol: And that was a victory for me, because in the midst of my unplanned eating "snarf", I was cautious enough to get rid of that skin and know I wasn't wrecking my whole day. That's progress. And out of a small amount of guilt for not being "totally" in control, I threw in my workout walking video and have already walked a mile in my living room. Talk about turning a small minus into a big plus! Anyways, just wanted to share that with you. These are my baby steps...........Hope you all have a nice Valentine's Day and I will talk to you later.
This post is for Mary: Happy Birthday!

02-14-2002, 01:01 PM
Happy Valentines Day !!!!

What GREAT posts to find this morning. You guys are great!!!!
I am already thankful just for being here with all of you.

I have decided to treat myself to that movie I didn't get to see on Tuesday.
I am also going to take myself out to lunch today and go check out that Playtex 18 hour #4395. :lol: What an exciting day I am going to have. LOL

Thankful Thursday.
I NEVER thought I would say this... but ...
I am thankful for the lousy day I had Tuesday. :eek:
It FORCED me to face some of my negative character traits and then DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM. All though I went through a LOT of PAINFUL soul searching... I have come through the pain with an improved me. Not perfect me... but improved.
The truth is... I did not like those traits in me anymore than my husband did.... and I am GLAD I was FORCED to change.
I like me more now. You know that "good" feeling about yourself.
The one most of us "don't" have when we procrastinate.
Well... I feel "good" about myself today.
And for that... I AM THANKFUL.

Hope everyone has a a wonderful day. I am going to MAKE mine wonderful.

02-14-2002, 01:19 PM
Well there are only space for 2 more posts before we go to another page... and I know Thinthinker is working today so she cant start a new thread.... AND I don't know if someone else will or not.... I am going to start a new thread now. :lol:
I will be gone all day so lets just fill up a new thread today. ;)

This group will continue at 300+ and ready to try again... #133.
See you all there. :wave: