Carb Counters - Is it really necessary to let go of sweets on LC?




bambifox
02-02-2008, 01:11 PM
I've been hearing alot about sugar alcohols (found in most sugar free chocolates, candies, etc.) and how they are the "DEVIL":devil:. So much so that I decided to start a thread where I would like to hear your stories. I would like to weigh the benefits of both (i.e., the emotional and mental issues of cutting out that little sweet).

Anyone able to find a happy medium??? Something you can live with and be happy, satisfied and not feel unfulfilled:(??? Also, any acceptable, yet delishous treats you want to post would be most helpful:carrot:. Thanks...Joyce


kaplods
02-02-2008, 01:59 PM
My husband is extremely affected by sugar alcohols and some sugar and fat substitutes (stomache cramps, nausea, diarrhea...).

Olestra doesn't bother me at all, nor any of the sugar substitutes. The sugar alcohols are another story. I'm not as sensitive as my husband, but I do have to read the serving size carefully. Usually I don't have a problem with a single portion, but I bought a small package of sugar free jelly beans without checking (it certainly seemed small enough to be a single serving, the bag only being about 2 inches square, but it turned out to be "4" servings). Yikes, did I get sick.

Puncezilla
02-02-2008, 02:32 PM
I don't eat any sugar alcohols, I just don't think I need them. I do use splenda I find I need very little to keep me satisfied. I use it to sweeten whipped cream, sometimes in tea, if I'm craving chocolate I have lindt, or poulain, dark chocolate which have about 2 net carbs per square. I also use davinchi or walden farms SF syrups.
If I realy need a treat I make chocolate mouse, with cream cheese whipping cream and SF chocolate syrope and cocoa, all whipped together(not for induction).
I very rarely drink diet soda, occasionaly I have a sip of DHs.
I find that after the first week or two I just don't crave sweets anymore.


jillybean720
02-02-2008, 02:34 PM
I have some Blue Bunny "no sugar added" strawberry ice cream in my freezer; it has sugar alcohols. I have a sore throat, so I thought it would be a nice treat. However, I had more than just a single 1/2 cup serving (sorry, but 1/2 cup is NEVER enough ice cream to quench my craving, nor to make my throat feel soothed). I spent the next day and a half with pretty bad gas :o

For me personally, I think the whole point of the low (or "good") carb plan is to get away from eating the sweets and such. If I keep eating the sugar-free ones, I'll never completely get rid of the cravings. Yes, it's hard to give up those treats at first, but after a couple of weeks, I don't even miss them and feel I've been freed from my cravings. I want to control my food, not be controlled by my cravings. I don't feel I should ever have to feel the need to eat something every day, if that makes sense. It makes me feel less in control.

Leenie
02-02-2008, 04:37 PM
Jilly...good post.

There was no happy medium with me and sweets and/or sugar alcohols....my efforts just spiraled downward with every funky food I put in my mouth.

If your following Atkins, I believe it IS necessary to get off the sweets, even the frankinfood sweets...the whole purpose is to get your body off of that stuff.

If your following a low carb plan of your own, it might be okay to eat them depending on how many carbs your allowing yourself....and if you can handle it.

If those carbs/chemicals agree with you, you can eat them in moderation and you lose weight...more power to you. If you find your eating that stuff, getting wicked stomach pains/gas, your weight loss is stalling or craving sugar it should be common sense to lay off of it.

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bambifox
02-02-2008, 08:03 PM
:dizzy:hmmmm...reminds me of when I first tried chocolate (sugar free w/maltitol) and didn't realize what can happen when you eat too much....whew...that was baddddd!!!!

What is Olestra and where can you buy it??? I went to the health food store today and saw this Stevia ($12 bucks!!!). Anyways, I know alot of LC's use it. Have you tried it? Any thoughts on what's the best (for us people with a sweet tooth, not addicted, but just like it)? Also, why is it the best? Thanks for your post. Joyce

Olestra doesn't bother me at all, nor any of the sugar substitutes. The sugar alcohols are another story...

Usually I don't have a problem with a single portion, but I bought a small package of sugar free jelly beans without checking (it certainly seemed small enough to be a single serving, the bag only being about 2 inches square, but it turned out to be "4" servings). Yikes, did I get sick.

Puncezilla
02-02-2008, 08:08 PM
I've tried stievia, it's not bad but I like splenda better because I think it tastes more like real sugar.

bambifox
02-02-2008, 08:12 PM
I love splenda too!!:D I wish they made all candies/chocolates with it. I wonder why they don't???? Anyway...thanks for your input Puncezilla. Joyce

I've tried stievia, it's not bad but I like splenda better because I think it tastes more like real sugar.

jillybean720
02-02-2008, 08:30 PM
Olestra is a fat substitute, not a sugar substitute. I know it can be found in some lower fat potato chips.

I'd like to chime in on the Stevia. I have some. I know it seems expensive, but you don't need to use nearly as much of it to get the same amount of sweetness as you do other things because it's multiple times sweeter than actual sugar. I bought a plastic jar of it, and it is literally hundreds of servings per container, so don't let the price scare you too much, because a little goes a LONG way ;)

Also, some people prefer to have something more natural instead of chemically-altered sweeteners, so if that's of any concern to you at all, Stevia is NOT an "artificial sweetener" because it is all natural, whereas artificial sweeteners are more chemicals than anything else. (I'm not trying to preach, just pointing out the difference--I do use products with Splenda and drink other artificially sweetened sodas; I just use Stevia as a sweetener in things like oatmeal).

Leenie
02-02-2008, 08:37 PM
You can not buy Olestra (at least I don't think you can)...Olestra is a calorie-free fat substitute synthesized from sucrose and vegetable oil for use in snacks such as potato chips, and capable of passing through the body without being digested.......aka...gas and bad attacks of diarrhea LOL.

Stevia is made from a noncaloric herb and is being used as a sugar substitute. The extract is supposed to be 300X sweeter than sugar :fr: They claim its supposed to be natural. I'm not sure if that is true since I do not know what they do when they process it. My neighbor swearers its all natural :shrug: If you buy a bottle you only use a teeny amount so it will prob last a long time. Splenda (which is a chemical) cost alot of money too....100 packets for $8 which is only like 3.5 oz.

See....more reason to eat clean...saves you a bundle of $$$ :lol3:

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Leenie
02-02-2008, 08:39 PM
Jilly I was typing as you were LOL ..... I agee with your post. I also have a small bottle of Stevia (b/c my neighbor uses it) and yes, you only use a teeeeeeny amount.

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bambifox
02-02-2008, 08:42 PM
Thanks all for your posts. How would you all compare Stevia vs. Splenda in the taste department??? Good point Leenie...Splenda is pretty expensive, but I buy the large industrial bags for $6 at Walmart. But I would buy the Stevia if it had the same kind of taste. The reason I like Splenda is because it doesn't have that harsh aftertaste that asparteme/sweetnlow do. Any thoughts????

Leenie
02-02-2008, 09:08 PM
Bambi, even though I have a bottle of Stevia I've never tasted it :lol3: guess I should huh. My DH who is on Atkins uses splenda, he likes it because just like you, he says it doesn't have a funky after taste (which I agree). The only problem I had with splenda was in Diet Rite soda (which doesn't have any carbs b/c they use liquid splenda) 10 minutes after I would drink a glass, I had a wicked headache..... so I stopped drinking the soda. Now... I can drink diet iced tea made with splenda and no headache..... go figure?

I'll let you know if I ever venture into that Stevia bottle ;)

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sylvia78
02-02-2008, 10:19 PM
The feeling of deprivation and unfulfillment is a symptom of addiction.

My personal experience with sugar alcohols has been less than the treat I thought I was getting. I get bloated, stomach cramps and have loose stool. But the worse thing of all is the cravings that they trigger. I started out with one bar a day. Then I start to have one after dinner. Then I rationalize that I would save so much more money if I bought a box instead of a single bar. Next thing, I'm eating bars for breakfast [I no longer eat food for breakfast], snack and after dinner. My weight loss stalls but I say to myself, "I'll finish this box and start my diet anew on Monday. But while I wait for Monday I might as well have some ciabata bread." And thus is the story of my past low carb life.

Last year, I came to the realization that sugar alcohols aggravate my cravings. Cravings are a symptom of addiction. Also, when I stopped eating sugar alcohols on a consistent basis, my PMS symptoms decreased and eventually went away. I no longer crave chocolate during PMS and I don't bloat either.

Consistently replacing a meal with a bar is not conducive to weight loss or health. Induction was meant to switch your body's energy source from carbs to fat. You need the protein and fats for you body to function. Eating enough green veggies daily actually helps you break your addictions.

BlueX posted a link about the effect of sugar alcohols on blood sugar levels. Several recent studies found that sugar alcohols in no way fool your brain or your body. Your blood sugar levels still rise and keep your brain addicted to sugars. Also, sugar alcohols do nothing to improve your health.

Per Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution, during induction, Splenda is acceptable and preferrable but you have to include 1 gram of carb for each package you use.

Once you are in pre-maintenance or maintenance, then you may find that you can have those low carb treats. But at that point you have to see how it effects your weight maintenance. Remember, sweets are supposed to be a treat, not a part of your daily diet. When you start restricting the amount of fake sugar you eat you will find that on special occasions, they really are a treat.

Spiritmagejkt
02-03-2008, 08:17 AM
If you use too much stevia it has a bitter aftertaste.It has a very different flavor from splenda I think it tastes like sweet and low. Its not approved as a sweetner because large quantities can cause fertility problems. Like anyone can tolerate large quantities of the stuff. Its not as good as splenda but its not a chemical soup either. Personally I don't use much at all. I think even sweet tasting food can trigger insulin responses and cravings so I generally avoid anything sweet all together whether it be real or artificial.

JerseyGyrl
02-03-2008, 08:47 AM
Once you are in pre-maintenance or maintenance, then you may find that you can have those low carb treats. But at that point you have to see how it effects your weight maintenance. Remember, sweets are supposed to be a treat, not a part of your daily diet. When you start restricting the amount of fake sugar you eat you will find that on special occasions, they really are a treat.


Sylvia,

Truer words were never spoken! Being on maintenance for nearly 3 years now, I do have an occasional "treat". Usually it's greek yogurt with a few frozen blueberries, a splash of DaVinci's syrup, a sprinkle of cinnamon & a few toasted chopped almonds on top...or...a square of Lindt 85% cocoa dark chocolate. I totally avoid sugar alcohols as they do not agree with me.

As for artificial sweeteners, I occasionally use Splenda because that is the one Dr. Atkins recommended and personally, I think it tastes the most like sugar. Let me add, I do not use Splenda daily...most days I don't have it at all. I can honestly say, since doing Atkins, my desire for sweets diminished considerably:)

jillybean720
02-03-2008, 09:48 AM
Wow, don't I feel like the odd one out--I don't eat a lot of Splenda (I definitely do have some, but avoid it if I can) because I think THAT has a funky aftertaste :dizzy: I think it started when I tried the Diet Coke with Splenda--it just has this funny lemony taste to it that I don't care for. I thought maybe it was just the soda and tried some recipes at home with Splenda, but I found the same thing--lemony nastiness :p

Just goes to show how different we all really are!

Oh, and Stevia comes in multiple forms, for anyone interested in trying it. You can buy it as a liquid (perfect for sweetening drinks like coffee), or you can buy it in a powder, which is what I have. It really is a powder and not a granular consistency like sugar, so it's easier to mix into things, IMO. Just an FYI :)

bambifox
02-03-2008, 09:49 AM
I think chocolate effects your mood and I hear doctors are starting to promote the benefits of it. I hardly think anyone could tolerate the taste of unsweetened chocolate as a treat. So where's the middle ground for those of us who are not "addicted" to chocolate, but just like it and wish to make it a part of our daily regimen???

I use chocolate kinda like a daily treat..I'll have a piece of SF peppermint patty as a treat for not going to Mickey Dees and gorging on a big mac....or for adding that extra 10 min. of exercise, or for eating that Atkins friendly meal...as a way of saying, "thanks for eating healthy Joyce"...it's small, but keeps me not feeling deprived and has no adverse reactions on my weight loss. If it does make me lose weight slower, then I'm okay, just as long as I'm losing weight. I think that I'll be able to stick with it that way....but we'll see in the long run.

However, if I see that it's provoking more cravings, I'll stop...right now, though...I have it under control.

Thanks for all your comments...I do appreciate hearing other people's experiences and views. Because of all the views I've heard, I have made certain changes in my diet/exercise. For one, I've started drinking room temp water...this has helped tremendously. I've stopped eating an entire atkins bar for breakfast...1/2 bar now and not everyday (this is good for me cuz without the bar, I'll probably go back to eating nothing for breakfast). So again...Thanks. Joyce

bluex
02-03-2008, 12:51 PM
I finally tried stevia and I felt that it didn't sweeten my coffee enough. I don't often have coffee but when I do, it should taste like I want it to and felt that I would need too much stevia. I didn't like it, when I need it, I use splenda. Sugar alcohols I have if it's less than 7 grams or so and if it's not maltitol.

I had too many maltitol sweetened things during the holidays and my weight and my blood sugar test showed an increase.

bambifox
02-03-2008, 01:32 PM
Bluex - Thanks for your post on Stevia. I've never tried it. I use Splenda in my coffee and I love it. I just wish I could find more chocolate treats sweetened with Stevia or something better for you.

Perhaps that is why my mom's attempt at Atkins failed...the "maltitol". I know she had "maltitol". Hmmm...that's really interesting.

Do you know of any sweets/chocolates that may be better for you? What do you have when you want a sweet? Thanks for your post. Joyce

JerseyGyrl
02-03-2008, 10:20 PM
Do you know of any sweets/chocolates that may be better for you? What do you have when you want a sweet?


Your best bet as far as chocolate goes would be Chocoperfection bars. Personally, I occasionally have a square of Lindt 85% cocoa dark chocolate...some may find it bitter, I think its an acquired taste.

bluex
02-03-2008, 10:40 PM
Yeah the maltitol (and any carb) is definitely something that will make blood sugar rise in diabetics. Unfortunately most of the "sugar free" treats out there have maltitol. I "treat" myself with atkins advantage bars, the caramel variety don't have any sugar alcohols. There are many ice creams and ice cream bars that are low carb and usually use a few grams of lactitol to sweeten and that's not nearly as bad. That chocolate I mentioned in the other thread that you can get at trader joe's would be ok if you eat the serving size.

JerseyGyrl
02-03-2008, 10:57 PM
I "treat" myself with atkins advantage bars, the caramel variety don't have any sugar alcohols.

Unfortunately, all the Atkins bars do contain sugar alcohols. Glycerine is a sugar alcohol. Atkins Nutritionals deducts this from the total carb count (as well as the fiber)...which is how they calculate those low net carb counts on the front label:?:

bambifox
02-04-2008, 08:31 AM
Thanks Jerseygyrl - I just recently heard reports on the news/health that dark chocolate is what is really best for you...only wish I liked dark chocolate...unfortunately, I can eat it unless its stuffed with sweet coconut (mounds)!lol!

I keep hearing about this chocoperfection. What is it sweetened with and how is it better than a reeses sf peanut btr cup? Where do you buy this? Thanks for your post. Joyce

JerseyGyrl
02-04-2008, 10:05 AM
I keep hearing about this chocoperfection. What is it sweetened with and how is it better than a reeses sf peanut btr cup? Where do you buy this?

Chocoperfection bars are sweetened with a sugar alcohol called Erythritol. Of all the sugar alcohols, Erythritol has the least impact on blood sugar. Erythritol is different from most sugar alchols which are only partially absorbed in the small intestine. Erythritol is absorbed into the blood but, it is expelled in the urine, which produces much less gastric distress than other sugar alcohols. The positive aspects of Chocoperfection bars is...they contain NO Maltitol or other ingrediests to raise blood sugar or cause gastric distress. Each bar is a little under 2 ozs, they are low glycemic, low carb & contain 2 net carbs per bar.

The Reese's sugar-free peanut butter cups contain 23 total carbs minus 1 gram fiber for 5 pieces, as well as, 19 grams of sugar alcohol. They contain the sugar alcohol Lactitol...which as Hershey's warns on their label, "may have a laxative effect".

The York sugar-free peppermint patties contain 29 total carbs minus 1 gram fiber for 3 pieces, as well as, 27 grams of sugar alcohol. They contain the sugar alcohols, Lactitol, Maltitol, Isomalt & Sorbitol...and also have the warning on their label about having a laxative effect.

The down side to the Chocoperfection bars is, they are quite expensive and to my knowledge, you can only find them online...http://www25.netrition.com/lc_specialties_choco_bars.html You may want to shop around online to find the best price for these.

jillybean720
02-04-2008, 10:36 AM
The down side to the Chocoperfection bars is, they are quite expensive and to my knowledge, you can only find them online...
I was actually looking at bars at my local chain grocery store here this morning, and I noticed they had the Chocoperfection bars there. I didn't notice the price since I wasn't going to buy them, but they stood out to me because I'd seen you mention them here. They were in the aisle with the Slim Fast and other meal replacement bars and such. Just an FYI that some stores do carry them :) At least in my area, that is--I'll have to try to remember to check the price next time I'm there.

bambifox
02-04-2008, 10:38 AM
Kim - Thanks for the link...I'm going to order some choco "heaven" bars. Hey...if they are better for me...it's worth a shot! I just GOTTA HAVE MY CHOCOLATE!!! I've got way too many kids around me...(i.e. 8yr old skinny as can be daughter, 2 & 3yr old grandkids..my little crumsnatchers!), so Mom/Grandma has to have something good to eat...I guess I still have that little kid in me!

Thanks again. Joyce

bambifox
02-04-2008, 10:40 AM
Hey Jill - I live in Northern VA too. Can you tell me the name of the store you found choco... in??? Was it Walmart, Ukrops, etc.??? I'd love to pick some up? Thanks. Joyce

JerseyGyrl
02-04-2008, 11:18 AM
I was actually looking at bars at my local chain grocery store here this morning, and I noticed they had the Chocoperfection bars there. I didn't notice the price since I wasn't going to buy them, but they stood out to me because I'd seen you mention them here. They were in the aisle with the Slim Fast and other meal replacement bars and such. Just an FYI that some stores do carry them :) At least in my area, that is--I'll have to try to remember to check the price next time I'm there.

Thanks Jilly! I will look for them locally too. Hopefully, I'll be able to find them. Maybe Walmart or Walgreens. I'll let you know if I find them!

jillybean720
02-04-2008, 11:21 AM
I've never heard of Ukrops--I saw them this morning at Giant. I avoid Walmart like the plague (ridiculously packed at all hours around here, and not well maintained at ALL), so not sure if they might be there :p

bambifox
02-04-2008, 02:13 PM
I'll also post if I find these choco "delishioso" at my local grocery store. Thanks Jilly & Jersey for all your help.

Jill - I know exactly what you mean about Walmart here in VA...it absolutely bites...but the other stores are just so much more expensive...and Walmart has the freshest fruits and veggies so.... I just went shopping at Walmart Friday (SB weekend) and it was friggin packed with a bunch of rude a*s shoppers pushing their carts right into you...not enough registers open...so customer/sales help...I felt like I was going to have a nervous breakdown...couldn't wait to get out of there! whew...lol!

bluex
02-04-2008, 08:31 PM
Unfortunately, all the Atkins bars do contain sugar alcohols. Glycerine is a sugar alcohol. Atkins Nutritionals deducts this from the total carb count (as well as the fiber)...which is how they calculate those low net carb counts on the front label:?:

Hey, thanks, learn something new every day. It is unfortunate, though from what i read glycerine is not as bad as say maltitol. Fortunately, I was counting that carb in my intake. I never go by "net" carbs, I always look at the total carb and I only ever subtract fiber. So, I was accounting for the carb just wasn't sure that the glycerine it came from was in fact a sugar alcohol.

My hope is that the FDA steps in at some point and sets some kind of standard for the claims of "net" carbs. It fools too many people.

JerseyGyrl
02-05-2008, 09:45 AM
Glycerine (which all varieties of Atkins bars contain) is a sugar alcohol. It is used as a sugar substitute, has approximately 27 calories per teaspoon and is 60% as sweet as sucrose (table sugar). It does not raise blood sugar.

"Net Carb" is not a term the FDA approved. Basically "net carbs" are the total carbs minus fiber & sugar alcohols (Glycerine). The "therory" is fiber, glycerine & sugar alcohols, all of which are forms of carbohydrates, don't raise blood sugar...so...their carb content shouldn't be included when counting carbs.

The only carb info the FDA regulates is on the nutrition facts label, which is total carbs, dietary fiber & sugars. While the "net carb" theory is just that, a theory, it is not illegal.

jillybean720
02-05-2008, 10:46 AM
Joyce, we don't have any Walmart Supercenters around here :( Ours are ALL old school Walmarts--no grocery store built in. If we had a Super Walmart, Iwould likely go there for groceries since when I lived in VA Beach, the prices were definitely better. But here, there are just a couple aisles of food--no produce, bakery, meats, or anything like that.

Now, I must apologize to you guys--I've sent you on a wild goose chase! It wasn't the Chocoperfection bars I saw at the store--they were Cocoa Via bars (also mentioned by many on this site, but they have sugar, so more often used by calorie counters). Sorry, guys! :sorry:

JerseyGyrl
02-05-2008, 11:12 AM
Now, I must apologize to you guys--I've sent you on a wild goose chase! It wasn't the Chocoperfection bars I saw at the store--they were Cocoa Via bars (also mentioned by many on this site, but they have sugar, so more often used by calorie counters). Sorry, guys! :sorry:

[COLOR="Purple"]I saw these bars (Cocoa Via) yesterday in a local supermarket & in Walmart. Yes, they do contain sugar & would not be suitable for low carb lifestyles. The milk chocolate variety contains 13 carbs per bar. The bar's look quite small and the nutrition facts state 1 bar is 5 servings.

I would really like to try the Chocoperfection bars but...I can't justify spending close to $35. I bought a bar of the Lindt 85% cocoa dark chocolate yesterday. I only occasionally eat 1 square so, it lasts me several months & its only $2.49:)

Puncezilla
02-05-2008, 02:04 PM
For those who don't like the 85% lindt, they also have a 55% or 65% bar that has the same low carb count but is not as strong.

pamatga
02-05-2008, 02:56 PM
I went on that link and it is $28.49 for 12 bars so that is about $2.37 each. I guess, that's not too bad.

I think we are all learning about how expensive it is to get the weight off and keep it off, huh?

When I get some extra money I will send away for some of these and I'll report back to you all how I like them.

Oh, speaking of expenses, this is Girl Scout season and let's all be honest, how much did you routinely spend on those "goodies"??? Especially, at $2.75 a box???

Puts it in perspective, doesn't it?

P.S. I was a Girl Scout and I am not dissing the Girl Scouts. Just using that as an example. No Girl Scouts were harmed in this statement, I hope.;)

bambifox
02-08-2008, 08:16 AM
I totally agree...I, for one, was a big fan of "Mickey Dees"...spent a truckload of $$$ there!:^: So, for me, it's worth it...if it's good and good for me! On the same note, I don't want to spend money unnecessarily.:( Has anyone thought about just making your own chocolate bars. I was in Walmart yesterday looking for the chocoperfection bars (which, by the way Walmart doesn't carry) and saw a woman with an unsweetend bar of chocolate. I asked her if she knew if the store carried Lindt sugar free. She suggested making the bars yourself. I thought that a good idea, cuz you can buy powdered "Erythritol" from www.netrition.com for like $6-7 bucks, splenda for $6 bucks and just make it from scratch! It might be cheaper and at least you'll truly know what's gone into it.

Has anybody out there tried it that way...and if so, have a recipe for making chocolate bars????? Joyce

I went on that link and it is $28.49 for 12 bars so that is about $2.37 each. I guess, that's not too bad.

I think we are all learning about how expensive it is to get the weight off and keep it off, huh?

Oh, speaking of expenses, this is Girl Scout season and let's all be honest, how much did you routinely spend on those "goodies"??? Especially, at $2.75 a box???

Puts it in perspective, doesn't it?;)

JerseyGyrl
02-08-2008, 09:48 AM
have a recipe for making chocolate bars????? Joyce

The low carb sites are full of recipes for low carb candy. Here are a couple of the more popular ones:
http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/chocolate_coconut_bark.html
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeehtdx/kevinssite/id106.html

There are many low carb "legal" desserts...Enjoy!!!:)

bambifox
02-08-2008, 07:47 PM
Thanks Jerseygyrl! I checked out those sites, but I'm kinda just looking to make an awesome chocolate bar with almonds. Any suggestions???

I don't know what's happening to me (mid-life crisis/change of life, etc.), but I've never been so into "cooking" before Atkins this time around! I'm really diggin it! I just feel the meals taste better cuz I made it!

Funny though...my appetite is really in the toilet...I have to remember to eat! Not sure if it's just Atkins or the Fat Burner pills (lecithin, b-6, cider vinegar). Anyway, it feels great not to be a slave to food anymore. Even got my sweet tooth under control. Thanks for all your helpful advice Jersey...you are great! Keep inspiring and being inspired! Joyce

bambifox
02-08-2008, 07:49 PM
Oh yeah...the pills also have Kelp...

WeightSmasher
02-09-2008, 12:17 AM
What kind of pills are they, brand?

bambifox
02-09-2008, 08:54 AM
WeightSmasher - The pills are all natural and you won't believe this, but, I found them at "Dollar Tree". Yes, $1 for a week supply. Take one 3 times per day with meals. Their simply labeled "Weight Loss"...ha! I know..I know...how generic! The company that makes them is "People's Choice" made by Mason Vitamins, Inc.

WeightSmasher
02-09-2008, 09:33 PM
Are the pills appetite suppresents or fat burners?? I thought that with Atkins you want to have fat because it helps you loose weight faster. I'm just a little confused. I know that with Atkins you lower your carbs and up your fat (of course with moderation) but you do need more fat. So would taking Alli pills help or harm our weight loss??

Just a few questions.........sorry it is just me confused!!

bambifox
02-09-2008, 09:46 PM
No problem Weightsmasher. I'm sorry if I confused you...

The pills that I take are simply vitamins. But the bottle is labeled "Weight Loss". The ingredients of the pill are simply kelp, cider vinegar, b-6 & lecithin. I have a close friend that said he took them and loss 100 lbs. So I tried it when I first started Atkins (as I had a ravenous appetite). He said it would substantially reduce my appetite and it did. However, a low-carb diet is a natural appetite suppressant so between the two...I'm like never hungry!
It also has vitamins and are supposed to aid in metabolizing fat!

Alli is something totally different and I wouldn't recommend it (nor do the manufacturers) for any low-carb diet as you will probably live in the bathroom. Alli is supposed to keep fat from be absorbed by the body. Not sure how safe something like that is...who knows what else it's inhibiting the body from absorbing (namely essential vitamins and minerals).

Currently, I not even sure that I need the "weight loss" pills, but I still take them with every meal cuz it can't hurt..only vitamins.

Hope this cleared up any confusion. Joyce